1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,504 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Maya. Welcome 4 00:00:26,584 --> 00:00:29,424 Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Cassemuel 5 00:00:29,464 --> 00:00:31,024 Speaker 2: Lukitch and I'm Laura Brodneck. 6 00:00:31,224 --> 00:00:35,144 Speaker 1: And on today's show, Sophie Turner thinks that she may 7 00:00:35,184 --> 00:00:39,664 Speaker 1: have broken up a famous celebrity couple and we think 8 00:00:39,704 --> 00:00:40,384 Speaker 1: we might know. 9 00:00:40,304 --> 00:00:40,864 Speaker 2: Who it is. 10 00:00:41,624 --> 00:00:44,944 Speaker 3: Yes, but first look, it pains me to bring this up. 11 00:00:44,984 --> 00:00:47,304 Speaker 3: I take absolutely no joy in this conversation, but I 12 00:00:47,304 --> 00:00:48,984 Speaker 3: feel like it's still bubbling away and we have to 13 00:00:49,024 --> 00:00:52,264 Speaker 3: have it. That Blake Lively and Taylor Swift's over a 14 00:00:52,384 --> 00:00:55,504 Speaker 3: decade long best friendship is over. 15 00:00:56,224 --> 00:00:57,264 Speaker 2: We love Taylor Swift. 16 00:00:57,304 --> 00:01:00,024 Speaker 1: We have been diving so deep into all of these 17 00:01:00,384 --> 00:01:02,504 Speaker 1: songs that we're not going to hear for a little while. 18 00:01:02,504 --> 00:01:04,584 Speaker 2: But we have a track list. Yes, we have a 19 00:01:04,624 --> 00:01:05,144 Speaker 2: track list. 20 00:01:05,144 --> 00:01:06,984 Speaker 3: And so some of the fun it has been since 21 00:01:06,984 --> 00:01:10,064 Speaker 3: she released that on her boyfriend's podcast and put the 22 00:01:10,104 --> 00:01:12,264 Speaker 3: track and the album cover out to the world, is 23 00:01:12,304 --> 00:01:15,624 Speaker 3: people going through and decoding what all the different songs mean. 24 00:01:15,744 --> 00:01:18,904 Speaker 3: You know who she's drawn inspiration from which parts are 25 00:01:18,944 --> 00:01:21,944 Speaker 3: like linked to different people, and there's a few with us, 26 00:01:21,984 --> 00:01:23,904 Speaker 3: like a bit of a tenuous link, like the Elizabeth 27 00:01:23,944 --> 00:01:27,384 Speaker 3: Taylor track. People think that is Kaylee Teller, who's Miles 28 00:01:27,424 --> 00:01:30,504 Speaker 3: Tayler's wife, who is a really good friend of Taylor Swift. 29 00:01:30,504 --> 00:01:32,704 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been also reports that they're on the 30 00:01:32,824 --> 00:01:35,064 Speaker 3: Rocks as well, and I never know what to believe 31 00:01:35,104 --> 00:01:37,424 Speaker 3: because I feel like Taylor's have goes through stages are 32 00:01:37,464 --> 00:01:40,064 Speaker 3: being photographed a lot with her very famous friends, but 33 00:01:40,104 --> 00:01:42,904 Speaker 3: more like in events season, and then like anyone else 34 00:01:42,944 --> 00:01:45,144 Speaker 3: will go through stages of not seeing them for a while, 35 00:01:45,744 --> 00:01:48,384 Speaker 3: and then because there's not public photos, it looks like 36 00:01:48,424 --> 00:01:49,664 Speaker 3: they've had a falling out. 37 00:01:49,504 --> 00:01:49,704 Speaker 4: I know. 38 00:01:49,784 --> 00:01:51,504 Speaker 1: And I feel like that is a little bit tenureus 39 00:01:51,504 --> 00:01:54,184 Speaker 1: because these people are very busy, like they're genering on 40 00:01:54,224 --> 00:01:57,624 Speaker 1: opposite sides of the country or world at multiple times. 41 00:01:57,624 --> 00:01:59,624 Speaker 1: So I mean like we can kind of think about that. 42 00:02:00,024 --> 00:02:02,464 Speaker 1: But the one that fans are kind of the most 43 00:02:02,544 --> 00:02:06,824 Speaker 1: suspicious about is track number six, and it's called ruin 44 00:02:06,864 --> 00:02:07,704 Speaker 1: the Friendship, which. 45 00:02:07,584 --> 00:02:11,344 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a pretty obvious link. 46 00:02:11,944 --> 00:02:14,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing about linking different titles 47 00:02:14,664 --> 00:02:16,584 Speaker 3: to different friends. Is like people think they figured it out. 48 00:02:16,624 --> 00:02:18,344 Speaker 3: So the Kaylee Taylor one they think is because it's 49 00:02:18,384 --> 00:02:20,824 Speaker 3: called Elizabeth Taylor and there's a video of her giving 50 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:23,984 Speaker 3: Taylor Shift a ring and it's like really over the top, 51 00:02:24,024 --> 00:02:26,144 Speaker 3: and Taylor Shift is like, oh, this looks like it's 52 00:02:26,144 --> 00:02:26,944 Speaker 3: for Elizabeth Taylor. 53 00:02:27,024 --> 00:02:28,304 Speaker 2: But that's also how she speaks. 54 00:02:28,544 --> 00:02:31,344 Speaker 3: Whereas the rule and the friendship one does seem to 55 00:02:31,384 --> 00:02:33,704 Speaker 3: be kind of quite pointed around Bala Clive. 56 00:02:33,864 --> 00:02:35,384 Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't seen the lyrics yet, so we 57 00:02:35,424 --> 00:02:35,784 Speaker 2: don't know. 58 00:02:36,024 --> 00:02:38,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's another one. I think it's track ten, Okay, 59 00:02:38,704 --> 00:02:42,024 Speaker 1: so that one is called Canceled. So people are kind 60 00:02:42,024 --> 00:02:44,224 Speaker 1: of speculating that this is probably about, like you know, 61 00:02:44,304 --> 00:02:46,824 Speaker 1: celebrity culture and the way that people get canceled so 62 00:02:46,904 --> 00:02:50,104 Speaker 1: quickly these days, which we've spoken about here on this 63 00:02:50,144 --> 00:02:53,504 Speaker 1: pod before. But again, it could be the fact that 64 00:02:53,824 --> 00:02:58,064 Speaker 1: Blake and Ryan basically got canceled once this whole Justinboltony 65 00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:01,584 Speaker 1: lawsuit came out. So those the two from me that 66 00:03:01,664 --> 00:03:05,304 Speaker 1: really like stuck out to me about their relationship. I 67 00:03:05,344 --> 00:03:08,064 Speaker 1: think the other thing was Taylor had this big dinner 68 00:03:08,104 --> 00:03:11,064 Speaker 1: party at Cipriani or whatever in New York. 69 00:03:10,944 --> 00:03:14,184 Speaker 2: City and Blake wasn't there. 70 00:03:14,784 --> 00:03:17,024 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been the telling thing is that they haven't 71 00:03:17,064 --> 00:03:20,104 Speaker 3: been pitched together in such long time, which, as I said, 72 00:03:20,104 --> 00:03:22,104 Speaker 3: for any of her other celebrity friendships wouldn't be a 73 00:03:22,144 --> 00:03:24,144 Speaker 3: big deal. But they did kind of live in each 74 00:03:24,144 --> 00:03:26,584 Speaker 3: other's pockets for a while. And it's the New York 75 00:03:26,664 --> 00:03:28,824 Speaker 3: dinner thing that really tipped over for me because I 76 00:03:28,824 --> 00:03:30,624 Speaker 3: do kind of believe in my heart that maybe they 77 00:03:30,624 --> 00:03:33,504 Speaker 3: were just taking some time. Because this huge thing has 78 00:03:33,544 --> 00:03:36,864 Speaker 3: happened with the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively lawsuit, Taylor 79 00:03:36,864 --> 00:03:39,184 Speaker 3: Swift was brought in in such a big way, to 80 00:03:39,224 --> 00:03:41,544 Speaker 3: the point where like at one point she was being subpoened, 81 00:03:41,744 --> 00:03:43,744 Speaker 3: her phone and her laptop were going to be subpoened. 82 00:03:44,104 --> 00:03:46,264 Speaker 3: There was links that she had been involved in like 83 00:03:46,304 --> 00:03:48,944 Speaker 3: this smear campaign against Justin Baldoni, and that she had 84 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:51,144 Speaker 3: been responsible for casting different people. 85 00:03:50,824 --> 00:03:51,504 Speaker 2: In the movie. 86 00:03:51,664 --> 00:03:53,664 Speaker 3: Some of that's been disproven, but it was like a 87 00:03:53,704 --> 00:03:57,424 Speaker 3: really big, messy legal public situation, and for someone who's 88 00:03:57,464 --> 00:03:59,824 Speaker 3: been in a lot of messy situations over the years, 89 00:04:00,104 --> 00:04:02,184 Speaker 3: it's probably something she wanted to avoid this stage of 90 00:04:02,184 --> 00:04:04,584 Speaker 3: her career where she kind of has perfected this art 91 00:04:04,624 --> 00:04:07,744 Speaker 3: of sailing through all these different controversies and kind of 92 00:04:07,784 --> 00:04:10,464 Speaker 3: being untouchable. But yes, they had this dinner and I 93 00:04:10,464 --> 00:04:12,304 Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen all the other like Taylor 94 00:04:12,344 --> 00:04:15,024 Speaker 3: Swift and Blake Lively New York dinner situations, but it's 95 00:04:15,024 --> 00:04:17,024 Speaker 3: always such a thing like they've always got like the 96 00:04:17,064 --> 00:04:17,584 Speaker 3: outfits on. 97 00:04:17,664 --> 00:04:19,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're holding hands off of them, like you know, 98 00:04:19,784 --> 00:04:23,624 Speaker 1: it's very like buddy, buddy, And that definitely to me 99 00:04:23,824 --> 00:04:24,624 Speaker 1: said a lot. 100 00:04:24,704 --> 00:04:27,264 Speaker 2: But then I was doing a little bit more reading. 101 00:04:28,184 --> 00:04:30,064 Speaker 2: Some people are now saying. 102 00:04:30,024 --> 00:04:33,944 Speaker 1: That these particular tracks may not be about Blake at all, 103 00:04:34,024 --> 00:04:38,744 Speaker 1: because she said that she actually wrote these songs back 104 00:04:38,864 --> 00:04:41,544 Speaker 1: in July of last year, so summer in the Northern 105 00:04:41,584 --> 00:04:45,744 Speaker 1: Hemisphere during the Eras tour, so she was like recording 106 00:04:45,784 --> 00:04:47,704 Speaker 1: and then she'd go on to do stuff on tour 107 00:04:47,824 --> 00:04:48,264 Speaker 1: and then bl. 108 00:04:48,264 --> 00:04:49,024 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 109 00:04:49,264 --> 00:04:54,544 Speaker 1: But the whole Baldoni Blake stuff didn't happen until like December, 110 00:04:55,544 --> 00:05:02,104 Speaker 1: and Blake, Ryan, Travis, and Taylor were all at dinner 111 00:05:02,344 --> 00:05:04,984 Speaker 1: together in October of twenty four. 112 00:05:05,784 --> 00:05:07,664 Speaker 2: So some people are saying that. 113 00:05:07,784 --> 00:05:09,944 Speaker 1: No, that's not going to be about her, But because 114 00:05:09,944 --> 00:05:12,264 Speaker 1: she could have easily written something after the fact. 115 00:05:12,384 --> 00:05:13,184 Speaker 2: That's the hard thing. 116 00:05:13,224 --> 00:05:15,824 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard because she has had as like 117 00:05:15,864 --> 00:05:18,064 Speaker 3: most people, I guess her adults, and especially when you're 118 00:05:18,104 --> 00:05:20,104 Speaker 3: like in that kind of high level of the entertainment industry, 119 00:05:20,304 --> 00:05:23,224 Speaker 3: would have a lot of different friendship breakups because so 120 00:05:23,344 --> 00:05:24,944 Speaker 3: much of your life is public and they could be 121 00:05:24,984 --> 00:05:26,904 Speaker 3: falling out, So it could be about any of her friends. 122 00:05:27,104 --> 00:05:27,864 Speaker 2: But the thing is that. 123 00:05:27,824 --> 00:05:29,944 Speaker 3: We do know that she can turn an album around 124 00:05:30,024 --> 00:05:32,264 Speaker 3: super quick, Like just think it wasn't that long from 125 00:05:32,304 --> 00:05:35,544 Speaker 3: the Maddie Healy breakup of their situationship and then the 126 00:05:35,584 --> 00:05:37,984 Speaker 3: Torture Poets Department came out, and like any other artists, 127 00:05:37,984 --> 00:05:40,224 Speaker 3: that could have taken years to pull like that level 128 00:05:40,224 --> 00:05:43,344 Speaker 3: of songwriting together, and she did that fairly quickly from 129 00:05:43,384 --> 00:05:45,744 Speaker 3: an album perspective, so I don't think it's other realm 130 00:05:45,744 --> 00:05:49,264 Speaker 3: of possibility. And also from a public perception, like when 131 00:05:49,304 --> 00:05:51,944 Speaker 3: we first started sort of seeing the friendship fall out, 132 00:05:52,104 --> 00:05:54,424 Speaker 3: it's like a celebrity breakup like we usually find out 133 00:05:54,464 --> 00:05:56,744 Speaker 3: months after it's actually happened, so we don't actually know 134 00:05:56,784 --> 00:06:00,464 Speaker 3: when if their friendship is over, which kind of feels 135 00:06:00,464 --> 00:06:01,984 Speaker 3: like it is at the moment when it happened. 136 00:06:02,024 --> 00:06:04,544 Speaker 1: I think the sad thing is because Taylor is the 137 00:06:04,544 --> 00:06:07,384 Speaker 1: godmother to Blake's children. 138 00:06:07,504 --> 00:06:10,904 Speaker 2: That to me is one of the saddest things. Like 139 00:06:11,184 --> 00:06:12,024 Speaker 2: if this is. 140 00:06:12,064 --> 00:06:14,264 Speaker 1: Over, but I mean, look, there's been so many times 141 00:06:14,344 --> 00:06:17,024 Speaker 1: we've been like sources say, so we don't know who 142 00:06:17,064 --> 00:06:17,864 Speaker 1: these sources are. 143 00:06:17,944 --> 00:06:19,544 Speaker 2: So it could be you. 144 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:22,824 Speaker 1: Know, a day email quote, or they are not talking 145 00:06:22,864 --> 00:06:25,984 Speaker 1: at the moment, they are not communicating, Like. 146 00:06:25,984 --> 00:06:29,864 Speaker 2: It really seems like this is over. 147 00:06:32,144 --> 00:06:34,344 Speaker 3: It's interesting you bring up Blake Lively as kids, because 148 00:06:34,344 --> 00:06:36,704 Speaker 3: that is something I've been thinking about too, Like it's 149 00:06:36,744 --> 00:06:38,504 Speaker 3: one thing for you and your best friend of like 150 00:06:38,544 --> 00:06:40,504 Speaker 3: over a decade to not speak, which is one of 151 00:06:40,544 --> 00:06:43,584 Speaker 3: the most heartbreaking things. Like sometimes a friendship breakup hurts 152 00:06:43,584 --> 00:06:44,904 Speaker 3: more than a romantic breakup. 153 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:46,264 Speaker 2: But there's so. 154 00:06:46,304 --> 00:06:49,624 Speaker 3: Many like photos and videos of Taylor Swift with Blake 155 00:06:49,664 --> 00:06:52,384 Speaker 3: Lively's children, particularly her eldest daughter James. So I think 156 00:06:52,384 --> 00:06:54,704 Speaker 3: it's like nearly ten now, so like old enough to 157 00:06:54,784 --> 00:06:58,184 Speaker 3: really notice that someone who was in her life a lot, 158 00:06:58,224 --> 00:07:00,464 Speaker 3: who she called aunt Taylor, who would like go to 159 00:07:00,504 --> 00:07:03,024 Speaker 3: her concerts. And then there's photos of like Taylor like 160 00:07:03,144 --> 00:07:05,264 Speaker 3: hugging the girls and like holding their hands and like 161 00:07:05,344 --> 00:07:07,224 Speaker 3: walking them out of the stadium, and there's photos of 162 00:07:07,224 --> 00:07:09,904 Speaker 3: them out and about New York together and they're like 163 00:07:09,944 --> 00:07:11,584 Speaker 3: they're all over her, as you would be, like she 164 00:07:11,584 --> 00:07:13,464 Speaker 3: seems like she'd be like the most fun aren't to 165 00:07:13,544 --> 00:07:17,264 Speaker 3: have around? But yeah, to be that entwined in their lives, 166 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,184 Speaker 3: Like how do you kind of explain that to the 167 00:07:19,264 --> 00:07:21,344 Speaker 3: kids of like Aunt Taylor was here all the time 168 00:07:21,424 --> 00:07:23,064 Speaker 3: and now we just don't see her And. 169 00:07:23,104 --> 00:07:25,424 Speaker 1: I could divorce, honestly, And I agree with you. Sometimes 170 00:07:25,464 --> 00:07:28,424 Speaker 1: friendship breakups, particularly ones that have been for a really 171 00:07:28,464 --> 00:07:33,024 Speaker 1: long time, are way harder because you're like leaving behind 172 00:07:33,624 --> 00:07:36,424 Speaker 1: those joint memories And yeah, you're right, those kids are 173 00:07:36,504 --> 00:07:38,024 Speaker 1: gonna know and maybe they are. 174 00:07:38,344 --> 00:07:40,264 Speaker 2: What if they're at home I'm asking about Aunt Tayler. 175 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:41,064 Speaker 2: That makes me sad. 176 00:07:41,264 --> 00:07:43,544 Speaker 3: Well again, I feel like once you're like close to ten, 177 00:07:43,664 --> 00:07:46,384 Speaker 3: like you're really in the thick of obviously not knowing 178 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,304 Speaker 3: about everything that's going on in the world, but knowing 179 00:07:48,344 --> 00:07:50,264 Speaker 3: when someone who's been a big force in your life 180 00:07:50,264 --> 00:07:52,104 Speaker 3: isn't there. Look for all, we know that she and 181 00:07:52,184 --> 00:07:54,544 Speaker 3: James are like facetiming each other, and that's a separate 182 00:07:54,544 --> 00:07:56,704 Speaker 3: thing to her and her mum, But yeah, you're right 183 00:07:56,784 --> 00:07:58,264 Speaker 3: in terms of, like there's a lot of quotes around 184 00:07:58,264 --> 00:08:00,504 Speaker 3: from the Daily Mail and stuff of the friendship breakup, 185 00:08:00,544 --> 00:08:02,504 Speaker 3: but I'm all looking at the facts that we can 186 00:08:02,584 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 3: kind of see, like Taylor's team came out and said, 187 00:08:05,584 --> 00:08:07,424 Speaker 3: we're not involved in this, do not bring us into 188 00:08:07,424 --> 00:08:10,304 Speaker 3: this situation. And then the fact that they haven't been 189 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:12,504 Speaker 3: picture together. And the New York dinner was the one 190 00:08:12,504 --> 00:08:15,144 Speaker 3: that kind of tipped me because that was their thing 191 00:08:15,184 --> 00:08:17,944 Speaker 3: of going to these like celebratory dinners and doing the 192 00:08:17,984 --> 00:08:20,584 Speaker 3: pap walk and as you're saying, like holding hands and 193 00:08:20,664 --> 00:08:23,184 Speaker 3: coming out afterwards holding hands, and it was such a 194 00:08:23,184 --> 00:08:25,864 Speaker 3: big thing to see Taylor walking with other friends like 195 00:08:25,904 --> 00:08:28,264 Speaker 3: Ashley Avignon and stuff who were at the dinners, but 196 00:08:28,704 --> 00:08:31,584 Speaker 3: Blake being absent. But at the same time, Blake's like 197 00:08:31,824 --> 00:08:34,464 Speaker 3: still really in the thick of her legal situation with 198 00:08:34,584 --> 00:08:37,824 Speaker 3: Justin Baldoni. So maybe it's also that she didn't think 199 00:08:37,864 --> 00:08:39,744 Speaker 3: she should be papped in that situation. 200 00:08:39,944 --> 00:08:40,904 Speaker 2: That's a possibility. 201 00:08:40,984 --> 00:08:44,424 Speaker 1: We haven't spoken about the Baldoni Lively case in a 202 00:08:44,464 --> 00:08:47,944 Speaker 1: little while, just while we're kind of impercolating, but there 203 00:08:47,984 --> 00:08:50,624 Speaker 1: have been some new developments so at the end of 204 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:54,464 Speaker 1: July or July thirty, there was a deposition that Blake 205 00:08:54,704 --> 00:09:00,304 Speaker 1: and Justin did so. Justin Baldoni's lawyers were deposing Blake. 206 00:09:00,944 --> 00:09:02,264 Speaker 2: And if you know anything about. 207 00:09:02,064 --> 00:09:04,944 Speaker 1: A deposition, a deposition, it's not a courtroom thing. They're 208 00:09:04,944 --> 00:09:07,864 Speaker 1: in like probably like a small maybe have the same suits, 209 00:09:07,904 --> 00:09:11,264 Speaker 1: but they're like in a small room like a boardroom 210 00:09:11,344 --> 00:09:11,824 Speaker 1: or something. 211 00:09:11,904 --> 00:09:12,944 Speaker 2: And they were both there. 212 00:09:13,024 --> 00:09:15,424 Speaker 1: It's those reports saying that they were both there sitting 213 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:19,104 Speaker 1: across from each other. People got a hold of those transcripts. 214 00:09:20,024 --> 00:09:21,144 Speaker 1: Journalist's got a hold of those. 215 00:09:21,024 --> 00:09:23,504 Speaker 2: Trains alas say, people were in People magazine got hold of. 216 00:09:23,424 --> 00:09:26,344 Speaker 1: These People Magazine, page six. All of those guys got 217 00:09:26,344 --> 00:09:28,744 Speaker 1: a hold of the transcripts. And like the big thing 218 00:09:28,904 --> 00:09:32,944 Speaker 1: was that Balzoni's lawyers were like going for Blake, and 219 00:09:32,984 --> 00:09:35,704 Speaker 1: Blake was really giving it back to a boat Doniy's 220 00:09:35,744 --> 00:09:37,904 Speaker 1: always and basically saying that they were part of the 221 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:43,584 Speaker 1: smear campaign themselves, which I thought was like a pretty 222 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:46,384 Speaker 1: big accusation to make. 223 00:09:46,824 --> 00:09:50,064 Speaker 2: When iked by Brian Friedman about. 224 00:09:49,704 --> 00:09:52,384 Speaker 1: You know, who did she think is doing this smear campaign, 225 00:09:52,424 --> 00:09:55,144 Speaker 1: she says, outside of what I know through my attorneys, 226 00:09:55,384 --> 00:09:58,664 Speaker 1: I believe the act of a retaliatory lawsuit, and the 227 00:09:58,664 --> 00:10:00,784 Speaker 1: press that you have done and the statements that you 228 00:10:00,864 --> 00:10:05,424 Speaker 1: have made about me and my character have felt incredibly retaliatory. 229 00:10:05,984 --> 00:10:09,944 Speaker 1: And she's directing that at the lawyer himself, and there's 230 00:10:10,064 --> 00:10:13,344 Speaker 1: quite a few times where she's like, this smear campaign 231 00:10:13,384 --> 00:10:18,104 Speaker 1: hasn't stopped because of you in this lawsuit, and like, 232 00:10:18,224 --> 00:10:21,104 Speaker 1: those are the mains that are takeaways, but we're not 233 00:10:21,144 --> 00:10:22,864 Speaker 1: going to be able to see any more of that deposition. 234 00:10:23,344 --> 00:10:25,144 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was over three hundred pages of it 235 00:10:25,184 --> 00:10:27,744 Speaker 3: that were released, but there are some reductive parts. Obviously, 236 00:10:27,744 --> 00:10:29,504 Speaker 3: the reductive parts are the ones I care about, but 237 00:10:29,584 --> 00:10:32,104 Speaker 3: they must have been stricken from the record because of 238 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:36,304 Speaker 3: public information that's not available. But it was interesting because 239 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:40,024 Speaker 3: they held the deposition at Blake Lively's law firm, and 240 00:10:40,064 --> 00:10:42,704 Speaker 3: the reasoning behind that is apparently because she was worried 241 00:10:42,744 --> 00:10:45,344 Speaker 3: about them getting PAP going to a separate location and 242 00:10:45,384 --> 00:10:47,864 Speaker 3: she thought that would be a bit more private. And 243 00:10:47,904 --> 00:10:50,624 Speaker 3: then obviously Justin Baldoni didn't have to be there, like 244 00:10:50,664 --> 00:10:52,584 Speaker 3: his legal team could have been there, so it would 245 00:10:52,584 --> 00:10:54,504 Speaker 3: have been the first time him choosing to go I 246 00:10:54,544 --> 00:10:55,864 Speaker 3: think is quite a big deal because it would have 247 00:10:55,904 --> 00:10:58,144 Speaker 3: been the first time they'd been, especially in a tiny 248 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:01,304 Speaker 3: room like that. Since the whole lawsuit blew up and 249 00:11:01,424 --> 00:11:04,424 Speaker 3: the Brian Friedman of it all, normally, like you wouldn't 250 00:11:04,424 --> 00:11:07,184 Speaker 3: be like sort of addressing a lawyer so personally, because 251 00:11:07,224 --> 00:11:09,704 Speaker 3: a lot of the time a lawyer will speak more 252 00:11:09,744 --> 00:11:12,624 Speaker 3: in fact, and yes they'll speak against the person who's 253 00:11:12,984 --> 00:11:15,384 Speaker 3: suing or being sued by their client to prove their point. 254 00:11:15,384 --> 00:11:19,944 Speaker 3: But Brian Friedman in particular has been so anti Blake lively, 255 00:11:20,104 --> 00:11:23,224 Speaker 3: so publicly, and has also been behind like the whole 256 00:11:23,264 --> 00:11:26,264 Speaker 3: website about her and all the legal leagues, and when 257 00:11:26,304 --> 00:11:28,384 Speaker 3: he talks about her in the public, it's so personal. 258 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:31,544 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like a lawyer talking about someone his 259 00:11:31,704 --> 00:11:32,744 Speaker 3: client is suing. 260 00:11:33,304 --> 00:11:35,144 Speaker 2: He has a personal vendata against. 261 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:37,024 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think she says that 262 00:11:37,064 --> 00:11:39,744 Speaker 1: a couple of times. She's like, you have been behind 263 00:11:39,784 --> 00:11:42,864 Speaker 1: this as well. But the deposition was available, all three 264 00:11:42,944 --> 00:11:47,864 Speaker 1: hundred pages of it. But then Blake's lawyers went and 265 00:11:48,344 --> 00:11:52,744 Speaker 1: had that document pulled from the public record because they 266 00:11:52,744 --> 00:11:56,064 Speaker 1: said it wasn't relevant for the public to see it 267 00:11:56,144 --> 00:11:58,544 Speaker 1: because they don't want that to then be like basically 268 00:11:58,624 --> 00:12:03,424 Speaker 1: a public trial or she's kind of already is so 269 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:07,944 Speaker 1: all of these people that have downloaded this document, technically 270 00:12:07,984 --> 00:12:12,064 Speaker 1: they can still release more stuff, but they might get 271 00:12:12,104 --> 00:12:14,704 Speaker 1: in trouble from it. This is a federal Dutch who 272 00:12:14,744 --> 00:12:16,384 Speaker 1: said you cannot release this. 273 00:12:16,824 --> 00:12:18,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what Blake c Lively and her team 274 00:12:18,704 --> 00:12:21,184 Speaker 3: were pushing, like from the start of can we stop 275 00:12:21,224 --> 00:12:24,024 Speaker 3: making everything from the court case like so public everything 276 00:12:24,064 --> 00:12:25,984 Speaker 3: being released because like, let's not forget like the time 277 00:12:25,984 --> 00:12:29,664 Speaker 3: of recording, that Justin Baldoni website about her is still live. 278 00:12:29,784 --> 00:12:32,384 Speaker 3: So every single thing he's said about her, all the 279 00:12:32,424 --> 00:12:35,864 Speaker 3: emails he has, all the text messages are on that website. Recently, 280 00:12:35,864 --> 00:12:37,544 Speaker 3: in the last few weeks, like a few more text 281 00:12:37,584 --> 00:12:40,384 Speaker 3: messages have been released between them, but it's mostly with 282 00:12:40,584 --> 00:12:43,504 Speaker 3: Justin Baldoni talking to the other producers. 283 00:12:43,464 --> 00:12:45,224 Speaker 2: About Blake Clively and it's. 284 00:12:45,064 --> 00:12:47,424 Speaker 3: To do with after she put that warning to him 285 00:12:47,504 --> 00:12:50,584 Speaker 3: during filming where she got like her management team to 286 00:12:50,624 --> 00:12:53,744 Speaker 3: send his team a letter where it says like he 287 00:12:53,904 --> 00:12:55,944 Speaker 3: is not to touch her in this way, he has 288 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:57,464 Speaker 3: not to speak to her in this way, he's not 289 00:12:57,504 --> 00:12:59,584 Speaker 3: to bring up her dead father, all that sort of stuff, 290 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:02,984 Speaker 3: And now Justin Baldonis released an email that he sent 291 00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:05,304 Speaker 3: to the producers being like, now she's put us into 292 00:13:05,344 --> 00:13:07,344 Speaker 3: a corner, she's taken over the production. How am I 293 00:13:07,384 --> 00:13:10,664 Speaker 3: supposed to say anything now that she said these allegations 294 00:13:10,704 --> 00:13:11,184 Speaker 3: against me. 295 00:13:11,304 --> 00:13:13,464 Speaker 2: So it's the same sort of stuff, But it just keeps. 296 00:13:13,264 --> 00:13:16,584 Speaker 3: Going and going and going, with like more information coming 297 00:13:16,624 --> 00:13:18,624 Speaker 3: out of the same I guess from the same from 298 00:13:18,624 --> 00:13:19,144 Speaker 3: each camp. 299 00:13:19,344 --> 00:13:22,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's probably why we've been sort 300 00:13:22,184 --> 00:13:24,864 Speaker 1: of holding back a little bit, is like it's just 301 00:13:24,984 --> 00:13:28,104 Speaker 1: so much information flying around and it is really confusing. 302 00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,864 Speaker 1: But you know what, we still are going to see 303 00:13:30,904 --> 00:13:33,904 Speaker 1: some of Taylor's texts that the lawyers still have part 304 00:13:33,944 --> 00:13:35,584 Speaker 1: of that. They've been able to subpaen a part of 305 00:13:35,664 --> 00:13:40,304 Speaker 1: Taylor's text messages, so Taylor is still not as involved, 306 00:13:40,624 --> 00:13:42,184 Speaker 1: but still slightly involved. 307 00:13:42,264 --> 00:13:44,224 Speaker 3: The thing is the court case is still next year, 308 00:13:44,264 --> 00:13:46,984 Speaker 3: Like there's still so much information that's going to come out, 309 00:13:47,024 --> 00:13:48,384 Speaker 3: and I do think she'll be brought into it in 310 00:13:48,384 --> 00:13:50,504 Speaker 3: a big way, just probably not in this way when 311 00:13:50,504 --> 00:13:52,784 Speaker 3: they thought we're going to make her whole phone public. 312 00:13:52,904 --> 00:13:54,784 Speaker 3: But I guess before then, we've got the Life of 313 00:13:54,824 --> 00:13:56,824 Speaker 3: a show Girl to come out and people can dissect 314 00:13:56,864 --> 00:13:58,984 Speaker 3: that song and try and figure out what's going on. 315 00:13:59,064 --> 00:14:00,664 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't wait to say the lyrics. 316 00:14:02,464 --> 00:14:07,464 Speaker 1: Okay, So Queen and North Sophie Turner was on Seth 317 00:14:07,544 --> 00:14:11,024 Speaker 1: Meyer's last week Late Night with Seth Meyers, and she 318 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:14,144 Speaker 1: was talking about a couple of different things. She's promoting 319 00:14:14,184 --> 00:14:17,584 Speaker 1: her new movie Trust, but there was something at the 320 00:14:17,624 --> 00:14:22,024 Speaker 1: beginning of the interview that I thought was so funny. 321 00:14:22,104 --> 00:14:24,464 Speaker 1: And we've had a little bit of like internet sloothing 322 00:14:25,184 --> 00:14:28,104 Speaker 1: happening as well. I'm going to let her tell the 323 00:14:28,144 --> 00:14:30,544 Speaker 1: story because I feel like she tells it best. 324 00:14:30,824 --> 00:14:31,704 Speaker 2: We were going to have a. 325 00:14:31,664 --> 00:14:35,264 Speaker 4: Great night, and then I really can't name names, rot 326 00:14:35,264 --> 00:14:37,784 Speaker 4: get in a lot of trouble. So I brought like 327 00:14:37,824 --> 00:14:40,744 Speaker 4: my best friend from my school days with me, and 328 00:14:40,784 --> 00:14:44,104 Speaker 4: she saw this actor that she like loved, and she 329 00:14:44,344 --> 00:14:46,784 Speaker 4: obviously just goes to me like can you just say hi? 330 00:14:46,864 --> 00:14:49,264 Speaker 4: And so I didn't know this actor, so I just went. 331 00:14:50,304 --> 00:14:51,464 Speaker 1: And that was it great. 332 00:14:51,984 --> 00:14:54,224 Speaker 4: And then later on I see this girl looking at 333 00:14:54,224 --> 00:14:58,304 Speaker 4: me and she's a famous actress and I was like, oh, 334 00:14:58,384 --> 00:14:59,944 Speaker 4: I have to go and tell her how much she 335 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:03,304 Speaker 4: means to me. So I dance on over and she goes, 336 00:15:04,184 --> 00:15:07,064 Speaker 4: can you stop floating with my fiance. 337 00:15:06,824 --> 00:15:09,944 Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, who's your fiance. 338 00:15:10,784 --> 00:15:12,944 Speaker 4: She's like points at the guy that I'd waived out, 339 00:15:12,984 --> 00:15:15,704 Speaker 4: and I have no idea who this man is, right, 340 00:15:16,264 --> 00:15:19,864 Speaker 4: and then turns out I think they like broke their 341 00:15:19,904 --> 00:15:23,464 Speaker 4: engagement off that really because of my Oh my god, 342 00:15:24,944 --> 00:15:27,144 Speaker 4: I didn't realize I held this power. 343 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:30,664 Speaker 1: Yeah when I first said that, I didn't really think 344 00:15:30,744 --> 00:15:31,584 Speaker 1: that much about it. 345 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:35,224 Speaker 2: But my god, can the internet find a name? 346 00:15:35,704 --> 00:15:37,984 Speaker 3: We should just let that woman talk unfiltered all the 347 00:15:37,984 --> 00:15:40,584 Speaker 3: time because she tells the best stories. So yeah, first 348 00:15:40,624 --> 00:15:42,224 Speaker 3: she was like, obviously, I'm not going to say who 349 00:15:42,264 --> 00:15:44,664 Speaker 3: it is, but it was kind of easy to trace 350 00:15:44,784 --> 00:15:46,864 Speaker 3: because if you look at like the different comic cons 351 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:48,664 Speaker 3: she went at, and how old she would have been 352 00:15:48,664 --> 00:15:50,944 Speaker 3: at the time, and who else was there. People have 353 00:15:51,064 --> 00:15:53,344 Speaker 3: deduced And I do think this is correct that it 354 00:15:53,584 --> 00:15:55,864 Speaker 3: was Evan Peters and Emma Roberts. 355 00:15:56,304 --> 00:15:59,944 Speaker 2: Yes, so they had dated for a while, they were engaged. 356 00:15:59,544 --> 00:16:03,104 Speaker 1: At the time, and then shortly after that broke off 357 00:16:03,104 --> 00:16:05,864 Speaker 1: their engagement. So I'm sure it wasn't just Sophie Turner's spot. 358 00:16:05,904 --> 00:16:08,384 Speaker 1: We can't blame the Queen in the North for everything. 359 00:16:08,944 --> 00:16:10,784 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting, how she was like, and I found 360 00:16:10,784 --> 00:16:13,384 Speaker 3: out later they broke up that night. But also Sophie 361 00:16:13,424 --> 00:16:15,704 Speaker 3: Turner's to friends like she's there with her high school friend. 362 00:16:16,064 --> 00:16:17,184 Speaker 3: They're seeing Evan Peters. 363 00:16:17,224 --> 00:16:17,984 Speaker 2: He was really off. 364 00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:19,544 Speaker 3: I mean, he still is off the moment, but that 365 00:16:19,664 --> 00:16:21,904 Speaker 3: was like in the really heightened moment of him being 366 00:16:21,904 --> 00:16:24,504 Speaker 3: the star of American Horror Story and being in a 367 00:16:24,504 --> 00:16:26,944 Speaker 3: few other movies and people were very obsessed with him. 368 00:16:27,384 --> 00:16:30,504 Speaker 3: And it also tracks that Sophie Turner would be obsessed 369 00:16:30,544 --> 00:16:32,424 Speaker 3: with Emma Roberts because she is the kind of right 370 00:16:32,464 --> 00:16:35,664 Speaker 3: age to be watching her during her like early child 371 00:16:35,784 --> 00:16:38,424 Speaker 3: stardom days. She's the right age to have grown up 372 00:16:38,424 --> 00:16:41,024 Speaker 3: on like Wild Child and Nancy Drew and all of those, 373 00:16:41,064 --> 00:16:45,464 Speaker 3: like very classic Emma Roberts films. And there's also photos 374 00:16:45,664 --> 00:16:47,664 Speaker 3: of again we don't know exactly which Comic Con, but 375 00:16:47,704 --> 00:16:50,304 Speaker 3: there's photos of the year that Sophie Turner was there 376 00:16:50,584 --> 00:16:53,584 Speaker 3: of an after party for Comic Con, and the paparazzi 377 00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:56,904 Speaker 3: have Emma Roberts like outside the Comic Con party, absolutely 378 00:16:57,024 --> 00:16:59,904 Speaker 3: sobbing and like her friends are coming around her, and 379 00:16:59,944 --> 00:17:01,944 Speaker 3: Evan Peters is then coming over and they look like 380 00:17:01,984 --> 00:17:04,144 Speaker 3: they're making up those pictures. 381 00:17:03,864 --> 00:17:06,064 Speaker 2: Were a diamond dozen when those two were dating them. 382 00:17:06,304 --> 00:17:08,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, they think it was either like twenty fourteen or 383 00:17:08,984 --> 00:17:09,824 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. 384 00:17:10,424 --> 00:17:12,424 Speaker 2: When that there's the photos. This is the thing. You 385 00:17:12,464 --> 00:17:13,784 Speaker 2: can't hide anything anymore. 386 00:17:14,064 --> 00:17:16,144 Speaker 1: No, but yeah, I love the way she tells the story, 387 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:17,704 Speaker 1: especially when she talks about like she was. 388 00:17:17,664 --> 00:17:19,664 Speaker 2: Like she just danced over. Yeah. 389 00:17:19,664 --> 00:17:22,424 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you thought someone was flirting with 390 00:17:22,464 --> 00:17:24,744 Speaker 1: your fiancea they just like dat stover tely. 391 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's also that is I feel Again, we 392 00:17:27,944 --> 00:17:29,464 Speaker 3: don't know for sure, but I do feel that is 393 00:17:29,464 --> 00:17:31,664 Speaker 3: the way Emma Roberts speaks like she would have been like, 394 00:17:31,664 --> 00:17:33,544 Speaker 3: can you stop fucking with my boyfriend? Because she's such 395 00:17:33,544 --> 00:17:36,664 Speaker 3: her That's why she plays those characters like Madison on 396 00:17:36,784 --> 00:17:39,064 Speaker 3: American Horror Stories so well, as she does that bitchy 397 00:17:39,144 --> 00:17:41,464 Speaker 3: mean girl so well. And that's where her and Evan 398 00:17:41,504 --> 00:17:44,224 Speaker 3: Peters met on American Horror Story. They were on and 399 00:17:44,264 --> 00:17:46,744 Speaker 3: off for a really long time, and everything we know 400 00:17:46,744 --> 00:17:49,744 Speaker 3: about their relationship is like they were so crazy, madly 401 00:17:49,784 --> 00:17:51,904 Speaker 3: in love. They would engage really young. Like the thing 402 00:17:51,984 --> 00:17:54,104 Speaker 3: is like she's only twenty. Emma Roberts at this time 403 00:17:54,144 --> 00:17:56,864 Speaker 3: would have been like twenty twenty one. Yeah, so people 404 00:17:56,864 --> 00:17:59,824 Speaker 3: do crazy shit in their early twenties. But that DV 405 00:17:59,944 --> 00:18:02,504 Speaker 3: thing you're talking about, yeah, is wild, because there was 406 00:18:02,544 --> 00:18:05,104 Speaker 3: a few times either like hotel stuff, so they did 407 00:18:05,144 --> 00:18:07,624 Speaker 3: something wild, or there's all these photos of them at 408 00:18:07,704 --> 00:18:10,624 Speaker 3: big events, red carpets having these block fights and then 409 00:18:10,664 --> 00:18:13,304 Speaker 3: making up afterwards. But that particular one was in there 410 00:18:13,304 --> 00:18:16,344 Speaker 3: in this hotel room in Canada and the police were 411 00:18:16,344 --> 00:18:19,104 Speaker 3: called because everyone else in the hotel her this blowout 412 00:18:19,144 --> 00:18:21,424 Speaker 3: fight happening and they thought someone was being killed. 413 00:18:21,504 --> 00:18:22,264 Speaker 2: Called the police. 414 00:18:22,264 --> 00:18:25,944 Speaker 3: The police got there and they found Emma Roberts like hysterical, 415 00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:28,384 Speaker 3: and then Evan Peters. This is all from the police report, 416 00:18:28,424 --> 00:18:31,384 Speaker 3: which unfortunately was released at the time, and Evan Peters 417 00:18:31,424 --> 00:18:33,344 Speaker 3: had what looked like kind of like a broken nose 418 00:18:33,344 --> 00:18:36,344 Speaker 3: and also bitemarks all over him. So then Emma Roberts 419 00:18:36,344 --> 00:18:38,344 Speaker 3: was taken to the police station, she had to give 420 00:18:38,384 --> 00:18:40,864 Speaker 3: a statement, and then there's photos of Evan Peter's like 421 00:18:40,904 --> 00:18:42,944 Speaker 3: going to pick her up and then like hugging and 422 00:18:42,984 --> 00:18:45,384 Speaker 3: sobbing together in the car park. 423 00:18:45,704 --> 00:18:47,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, toxic relationship. 424 00:18:47,144 --> 00:18:49,584 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can just yeah, like she is sobbing 425 00:18:49,624 --> 00:18:51,704 Speaker 3: in this car park of this police station and he's 426 00:18:51,784 --> 00:18:53,744 Speaker 3: hugging her. It looks like he's saying I love you. 427 00:18:54,064 --> 00:18:56,624 Speaker 3: Then her team released a statement saying it had been 428 00:18:56,624 --> 00:18:58,904 Speaker 3: a big misunderstanding and things going out of control and 429 00:18:58,904 --> 00:19:00,904 Speaker 3: that they were like working on their relationship. 430 00:19:01,464 --> 00:19:04,824 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I kind of do believe that it tracked. 431 00:19:04,864 --> 00:19:07,984 Speaker 3: Little Sophie Turner coming in with one little wave could 432 00:19:07,984 --> 00:19:08,944 Speaker 3: have blown the whole thing. 433 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:11,584 Speaker 1: And Sophie Turners it just like I feel like, particularly 434 00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:13,864 Speaker 1: in those early days of Game of Thrones, like she 435 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:16,664 Speaker 1: was just like loving life, like this is Game of 436 00:19:16,704 --> 00:19:19,144 Speaker 1: Thrones is like the biggest show on television. She's at 437 00:19:19,184 --> 00:19:21,664 Speaker 1: coma gon, she's hanging out with her maids, she gets 438 00:19:21,704 --> 00:19:24,864 Speaker 1: to bring her best friend, like she's enjoying. It's like 439 00:19:24,904 --> 00:19:27,824 Speaker 1: this is still new for her. So like, I feel 440 00:19:27,824 --> 00:19:29,384 Speaker 1: a little bit sad for her. But she did actually 441 00:19:29,464 --> 00:19:32,984 Speaker 1: tell another story in this that something that I have 442 00:19:33,184 --> 00:19:36,344 Speaker 1: loved listening to. Because again, if you are a Game 443 00:19:36,344 --> 00:19:38,104 Speaker 1: of Thrones fan, you know that her and. 444 00:19:38,184 --> 00:19:40,544 Speaker 2: Kid Harrington would play for brother and Sister. 445 00:19:41,224 --> 00:19:44,424 Speaker 1: And so she's in this new movie with him, called 446 00:19:44,464 --> 00:19:44,984 Speaker 1: The Dreadful. 447 00:19:45,024 --> 00:19:46,304 Speaker 2: She's also producing it. 448 00:19:46,904 --> 00:19:49,104 Speaker 1: Earlier in the interview, she talks about her current movies 449 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:52,144 Speaker 1: she's covered in cockroaches and rats, and this is what 450 00:19:52,184 --> 00:19:56,504 Speaker 1: she has to say when Seth says what was worse 451 00:19:57,384 --> 00:20:00,944 Speaker 1: kissing Kid Harrington or being covered in roaches and rats. 452 00:20:01,224 --> 00:20:04,464 Speaker 4: I just got the script for this amazing gothic horror 453 00:20:04,544 --> 00:20:07,184 Speaker 4: called The Dreadful, and I was reading through all the 454 00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:10,984 Speaker 4: characters and I'm producing it. So the director was asking me, 455 00:20:11,024 --> 00:20:14,944 Speaker 4: you know, who do you think? And immediately the first 456 00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:17,504 Speaker 4: person I thought of was Kit, and so I sent 457 00:20:17,544 --> 00:20:20,104 Speaker 4: the script to Kit and he he kind of sent 458 00:20:20,144 --> 00:20:22,304 Speaker 4: me a message back going like, yeah, I'd love. 459 00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:24,024 Speaker 2: To, but this is going to be really weird. 460 00:20:24,064 --> 00:20:26,144 Speaker 4: So and I was like, what is he talking about? 461 00:20:26,184 --> 00:20:29,304 Speaker 4: And I was reading it and I'm like, kiss kiss sex, 462 00:20:29,504 --> 00:20:34,944 Speaker 4: kiss sexy. And then I'm like, oh, shoot, that's my brother. Yeah, 463 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:36,904 Speaker 4: but it's such a good script that he was like, 464 00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:39,384 Speaker 4: we kind of have to do it. So then we 465 00:20:39,424 --> 00:20:40,984 Speaker 4: put it out our minds and then we get on 466 00:20:41,064 --> 00:20:44,424 Speaker 4: set and it's the first kissing scene and we are 467 00:20:44,464 --> 00:20:46,304 Speaker 4: both wretching. 468 00:20:46,184 --> 00:20:49,504 Speaker 2: Like, really, it is vile. It was the worst. 469 00:20:50,264 --> 00:20:52,024 Speaker 4: Another really bad moment in my career. 470 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:58,264 Speaker 2: Was it worse than the cockroaches? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, thank 471 00:20:58,304 --> 00:20:58,984 Speaker 2: you for your honesty. 472 00:20:59,144 --> 00:21:01,024 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to have to be honest. 473 00:21:01,304 --> 00:21:03,744 Speaker 2: It was bad. I believe her. I think it's okay. 474 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:07,144 Speaker 3: Do you play brother and sister as adults, like when 475 00:21:07,184 --> 00:21:08,424 Speaker 3: you're two adults coming in. 476 00:21:08,624 --> 00:21:09,744 Speaker 2: I mean, and there's lots. 477 00:21:09,544 --> 00:21:11,704 Speaker 3: Of people who played adults on TV who have gone 478 00:21:11,744 --> 00:21:14,704 Speaker 3: on to date or even get married. On Dexter, the 479 00:21:14,744 --> 00:21:17,824 Speaker 3: actor who played Dexter and his sister, they got married 480 00:21:17,864 --> 00:21:20,344 Speaker 3: and had like a very tumultuous relationship. The same on 481 00:21:20,504 --> 00:21:24,304 Speaker 3: Parenthood with Peter Krause and Lauren Graham's relationship, Like they 482 00:21:24,384 --> 00:21:26,744 Speaker 3: prayed brother and sister and this is while they're playing 483 00:21:26,784 --> 00:21:28,504 Speaker 3: brother and sister. They played brother and sister all the 484 00:21:28,504 --> 00:21:30,784 Speaker 3: way through that show run and dated at the same time. 485 00:21:31,344 --> 00:21:33,784 Speaker 3: So I feel like that's slightly better because you're like 486 00:21:33,784 --> 00:21:35,944 Speaker 3: two adults coming in, but they were children. 487 00:21:35,624 --> 00:21:36,824 Speaker 2: And this is a particular thing. 488 00:21:36,824 --> 00:21:39,224 Speaker 1: Like I think when Sophie Tenner started, which was like 489 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:44,824 Speaker 1: thirteen and Kit would have been like twenty, so like, ill, 490 00:21:45,944 --> 00:21:47,824 Speaker 1: like I knew you when you were a child. 491 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:49,704 Speaker 3: That's the only weird thing it's throwing me. I mean, 492 00:21:49,744 --> 00:21:51,224 Speaker 3: they're both adults now on the Actors and it's not 493 00:21:51,264 --> 00:21:53,104 Speaker 3: and they clearly wanted to do it. It's like she's 494 00:21:53,144 --> 00:21:55,184 Speaker 3: producing the movie. It's not like they were just throwing together. 495 00:21:55,224 --> 00:21:58,304 Speaker 3: And the marketing sells it so well of like not 496 00:21:58,344 --> 00:22:01,264 Speaker 3: only a former Game of Thrones like cast members teaming up, 497 00:22:01,264 --> 00:22:02,944 Speaker 3: but a brother and sister teaming up to be in 498 00:22:02,984 --> 00:22:04,584 Speaker 3: love like people and have sex scenes. 499 00:22:04,784 --> 00:22:05,824 Speaker 2: People are gonna go watch that. 500 00:22:05,944 --> 00:22:07,944 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's this weird thing of seeing photos of 501 00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:10,704 Speaker 3: them on set when the show first started, and he's 502 00:22:10,744 --> 00:22:13,144 Speaker 3: like this burly guy with a beard and she's like 503 00:22:13,184 --> 00:22:16,744 Speaker 3: this tiny, little like tween. They're very brother and sister 504 00:22:16,824 --> 00:22:18,864 Speaker 3: in the photos, and I just feel. 505 00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:21,904 Speaker 1: Like and obviously, and even the way that Kit responds 506 00:22:21,944 --> 00:22:24,704 Speaker 1: like this is gonna be so fucking weird. So yeah, yeah, 507 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:27,424 Speaker 1: like they are really familiar with each other, and that 508 00:22:27,584 --> 00:22:30,424 Speaker 1: is really clear. But it did make me laugh, It 509 00:22:30,424 --> 00:22:31,944 Speaker 1: makes me giggle, and it makes me really want to 510 00:22:31,944 --> 00:22:34,424 Speaker 1: watch the movie. Yeah, even though I hate gothic horror, 511 00:22:34,504 --> 00:22:36,824 Speaker 1: like horror movies are like my worst nightmare, but I 512 00:22:36,864 --> 00:22:37,584 Speaker 1: will watch it. 513 00:22:37,744 --> 00:22:39,384 Speaker 2: I freaking love a gothic horror. 514 00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:41,264 Speaker 3: But I almost wish that it wasn't those two because 515 00:22:41,264 --> 00:22:42,904 Speaker 3: it's gonna take me out of it, Like I almost 516 00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:43,464 Speaker 3: wish I wasn't. 517 00:22:43,504 --> 00:22:45,344 Speaker 2: I didn't wasn't thinking of the whole brother and sister 518 00:22:45,424 --> 00:22:48,664 Speaker 2: thing just watching it. Well, we'll see. I'll be the 519 00:22:48,704 --> 00:22:51,864 Speaker 2: judge of that. They could do it. I believe in them. Sophie. 520 00:22:51,864 --> 00:22:55,344 Speaker 1: Don't has like really come out for me like I 521 00:22:55,384 --> 00:22:56,384 Speaker 1: want to see her in more. 522 00:22:56,464 --> 00:22:59,424 Speaker 3: I love her look the same. I'm reserving my judgment 523 00:22:59,464 --> 00:23:01,344 Speaker 3: until I see it. But sometimes I don't like a 524 00:23:01,344 --> 00:23:02,224 Speaker 3: backstory with a movie. 525 00:23:02,224 --> 00:23:04,424 Speaker 2: I like to experience it. 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