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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. While the US is concerned about pregnant women

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Speaker 2: a different health issue, kids and melatonin, after a spiking

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Speaker 2: calls to the poison hotline and an online retailer suspending

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Speaker 2: sales of melotonin gummy products to Australia. Just what are

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Speaker 2: the rules around dishing up melotonin products at bedtime? Plus

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Speaker 2: new research shows a very unexpected side effect of gen

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Speaker 2: z living at home for longer and it's not sexy.

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Speaker 2: Literally before we get there, here's Claire Murphy with the

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Speaker 2: latest from the QUICKI newsroom for Friday, September twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor, and Australian grandmother convicted of drug smuggling has

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Speaker 1: nine year old Perth woman Donna Nelson appealed the six

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Nelson was arrested at Japan's Narita International

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Speaker 1: Airport after customs officials found the drugs hidden under a

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Speaker 1: on July second, Duras finding he paid male escorts to

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. There are calls for migraine sufferers to receive attention,

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Speaker 1: according to research from gen Howe's for Women's Health. Australian

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Speaker 1: The chronic condition is more than just a headache, but

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, Melatonin and your Kids. It's a scenario

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Speaker 2: It can also be taken as a medicine to help

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Speaker 2: What is melatonin actually used for then, and who should

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Speaker 4: Yes, so, melatonin is the hormone that our bodies naturally

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Speaker 4: Melatonin actually, in Australia, of prescription medication at the doses

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Speaker 2: There's been the spike in calls to the Poison Hotline

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Speaker 4: That really highlights that looking after all medicines at home

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Speaker 2: Anyway, they're not supposed to be available in Australia without

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Speaker 2: fruits and vanilla flavored gummies to give their kids before

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Speaker 4: So we can control for all of those things, product packaging, flavors,

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Speaker 2: All right, Daniel, final one for you. Then, if folks

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Speaker 3: Then it's a great question.

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Speaker 4: In fact, there's many steps before reaching for medicines and pills.

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Speaker 2: Now that has led to many consequences, fighting it out

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Speaker 2: the unexpected results.

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Speaker 2: More people are turning to public spaces like cars, public toilets,

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Speaker 2: living at home so long can impact identity, mental health,

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Speaker 2: Researchers say it's not just about bedrooms. Stress, uncertainty, and

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Speaker 2: even their sex life. Thanks for taking some time to

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Speaker 2: by me Taylor Strano, and Claire Murphy, with audio production

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