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Speaker 2: A man with multiple guns was arrested outside of former
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's rally in California Saturday. The local sheriff
Speaker 2: says forty nine year old Van Miller illegally had a shotgun,
Speaker 2: loaded handgun, and a high capacity magazine. Would anybody else
Speaker 2: like defend?
Speaker 3: Please raiser, Let's do it now, Please raise your head.
Speaker 3: You know what we could do though, if my guys
Speaker 3: could do it.
Speaker 2: How about we'll do a little music.
Speaker 3: Let's make this a musical.
Speaker 4: First.
Speaker 3: Oh, looky, looky, Hello out louders. Is that time of
Speaker 3: the week where we unpack all the things that are
Speaker 3: happening in the US election, which is now only a
Speaker 3: terrifying nineteen days away. I'm Holly Wainwright and I have
Speaker 3: literally been in an Internet free zone for a week
Speaker 3: and it's been glorious to not know what's been going
Speaker 3: on with Trump and Harris, but today I'm going to
Speaker 3: find out. We're joined by Jesse Stevens.
Speaker 5: I'm here, and every time I say anything about the
Speaker 5: US election, I go no, I need to get across
Speaker 5: it because I have a built in Amelia Lester, who
Speaker 5: gives me all the context I need to know. She's
Speaker 5: my filter.
Speaker 3: She absolutely is. And Amelia Lester is here. She is
Speaker 3: the deputy editor of Foreign Policy magazine. She is a
Speaker 3: journalist with lots of years of experience in the US.
Speaker 3: In fact, she lived there until very recently. Amelia, what
Speaker 3: the hell is going on in US politics this week?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 4: The first thing you need to know is that I
Speaker 4: got a text from a friend yesterday, and I'm going
Speaker 4: to read it in its entirety. This is a friend
Speaker 4: in the US. Imagine it's twenty twelve, Barack Obama was
Speaker 4: just reelected, and you receive this article from the future.
Speaker 4: This is an article from the Washington Post. There's nothing
Speaker 4: in this world that could convince you it's real. I
Speaker 4: still don't believe it's a reported story from a real event.
Speaker 4: Would you like to know what I would? I should
Speaker 4: stop and say no, it's no an assassination attempt, though that
Speaker 4: did happen. That's we'll get to that. This is a
Speaker 4: surprising thing. This is the headline. Trump sways and bops
Speaker 4: to music for thirty nine minutes in bizarre episode.
Speaker 5: So, all right, what happened here? Because I've seen tweets
Speaker 5: about it, and sometimes you just look at it and
Speaker 5: you go, oh, I'm sure everyone's exaggerating.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I have never read an article in the
Speaker 4: New York Times where the reporter was so clearly confused
Speaker 4: and yet still had to write an article and describe
Speaker 4: what happened. So what happened was Trump was doing a
Speaker 4: rally in you guessed at Pennsylvania because basically that's the
Speaker 4: one state where everyone's going to decide for the next
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. It's deciding the election. He was at
Speaker 4: a town hall in Pennsylvania and then two people needed
Speaker 4: medical attention, which is also not surprising because the median
Speaker 4: age at his rallies tends to be somewhere around seventy five.
Speaker 4: They needed the medical attention, and he was sort of
Speaker 4: waiting to see what happened there, and then he decided
Speaker 4: he wasn't going to talk about small business or the
Speaker 4: economy or inflation anymore. He just wanted to listen to
Speaker 4: some music.
Speaker 5: So he was that that song that he does, where
Speaker 5: he Goes, where he does his little fist was.
Speaker 6: Yes, that that extremely well known song. Yes, yes, y
Speaker 6: m c h.
Speaker 3: Actually to dance to that on the stage and we
Speaker 3: are not dances and we did a better job than
Speaker 3: Donald Trump does.
Speaker 4: Anyway, there was a lot of fist dancing. So for
Speaker 4: thirty nine minutes, Yeah, he played his greatest hits. He
Speaker 4: played Walliam Ca. He played Ave Maria twice. That's a
Speaker 4: down out which which I think is a diagram between
Speaker 4: Donald Trump and Muriel Hesslop is that they both loved
Speaker 4: the song, are they Maria? What's interesting is he come
Speaker 4: play a lot of the songs he wants to play
Speaker 4: these days because artists keep sending him seasoned desists. So
Speaker 4: he used to love the Rolling Stones song you Can't
Speaker 4: Always Get what you Want. They sent him a season desist.
Speaker 4: James Brown, it's a man's man's man's well.
Speaker 3: That would be a big time.
Speaker 4: Saneade O'Connor performing. Nothing compares to you now, I know.
Speaker 4: If there's one politician shinetdo kinda loves. It's absolutely Donald.
Speaker 3: Trump spinning in her grave speak.
Speaker 6: Yes, sorry past tense.
Speaker 4: Yes. So anyway, it was a really odd episode. No
Speaker 4: one really knows what to make of it. But he
Speaker 4: had another odd episode this week because he was at
Speaker 4: a rally in Arizona and he said that he wanted
Speaker 4: to thank We think he was saying Assyrians for Trump,
Speaker 4: but he said in such a way that it's sounded
Speaker 4: like Ascerasians, and no one really know what he meant, and.
Speaker 6: So there were various theories.
Speaker 4: People said, could he have meant Arizonans, could he have
Speaker 4: meant Azerbaijan's. But then eventually the case was cracked. There
Speaker 4: was a group of people in red T shirts that
Speaker 4: read us for Trump. Assyrians are of course an ancient
Speaker 4: people who trace their roots to Northern Iraq, Syria, Turkey,
Speaker 4: and Iran. The Facebook group Assyrians for Trump only has
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty six members, so it's not a
Speaker 4: hugely important swing group in this selection.
Speaker 6: He's clashing it through us.
Speaker 3: So I've seen a lot of people say that this
Speaker 3: is further evidence of his cognitive decline. Other people are
Speaker 3: saying he didn't like the questions that were being asked.
Speaker 3: Others are saying he's avoiding making gaffes like my numbers
Speaker 3: with the black and especially black men.
Speaker 4: I love black men, I love them, I love them.
Speaker 3: I have gone through the roof with black men. Yes,
Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris just I understand it, tweeted, I hope
Speaker 3: he's okay after the dancing and swaying, I think is understated.
Speaker 3: So what's the black men's speech?
Speaker 6: What's happened there?
Speaker 4: If the question hollywoods is Donald Trump? Okay, I wasn't
Speaker 4: going to be able to answer that one. So I'm
Speaker 4: glad Jesse to follow up hurry so on the black
Speaker 4: men's seech. So what happened here is that Obama spoke
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh, which is a city in Pennsylvania, last week,
Speaker 4: and he aimed his speech very much at black men.
Speaker 4: And the reason he did that is because Kamala Harris's
Speaker 4: support is still very low among black voters in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 4: It's lower than when Biden won the state in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: according to polls, and Obama still has enormous appeal both
Speaker 4: in this community but also more generally amongst Democrats. Polls
Speaker 4: show ninety percent of Democrats still view him favorably and Harris.
Speaker 4: This is interesting, was an early supporter of Obama. Said,
Speaker 4: you know that she daw knocked for him in Iowa
Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven when he was running to
Speaker 4: be the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 6: So they go way back.
Speaker 4: But in this speech, people have said this was a
Speaker 4: risky move on Obama's part. He addressed his brothers. That's
Speaker 4: a quote. He said, you're coming up with all kinds
Speaker 4: of reasons and excuses for not supporting Kamala Harris. Part
Speaker 4: of it makes me think that you're just not feeling
Speaker 4: the idea of having a woman as president. And a
Speaker 4: number of commentators have described this as at the tone
Speaker 4: here a little bit off, a little sterldie Scoldie Wendell Pearce,
Speaker 4: who is an actor who was in Suits and the Wire,
Speaker 4: more to the point, the critically acclaimed Kenzie and Drama.
Speaker 6: He was in Suits with Megan Markle.
Speaker 4: He went on social media and he wrote, the party
Speaker 4: has to stop scapegoating black men. That was particularly notable
Speaker 4: for him because he's been a big supporter of Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris's run for president, and he asked why white men
Speaker 4: and women weren't getting the same treatment. And Obama has
Speaker 4: history on this because in two thousand and eight, when
Speaker 4: he was the Democratic nominee, he scolded black fathers. He
Speaker 4: told a group of black people during a speech in Chicago,
Speaker 4: we need fathers to realize that responsibility does not end
Speaker 4: at conception, addressing this idea that in the black community
Speaker 4: sometimes black fathers aren't always around. So there was this
Speaker 4: history with Obama on this, and I think in that context,
Speaker 4: Trump sort of tried to seize on the moment and
Speaker 4: declare that he loves black men.
Speaker 5: I feel like that was on his notepad, not but
Speaker 5: he has a notepad, but like black men potential. And
Speaker 5: then it sounds like he didn't really nut out what
Speaker 5: he wanted to say about that, so he just yelled
Speaker 5: black men.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's I hate Taylor Swift, I love black men.
Speaker 6: It tends to be a pendulum for him.
Speaker 3: None of this seems to be changing the poles so far.
Speaker 3: I know. I ask you this every week. Is anything
Speaker 3: we can hold on to? So much seems to happen,
Speaker 3: and yet nothing seems to change. Because last week I
Speaker 3: listened to you on Mama Mia out loud while I
Speaker 3: wasn't here, talking about Kamala's press blitz. Call her daddy.
Speaker 3: Did it do anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the press plits is interesting. So the short answer
Speaker 4: is no, the poles haven't changed much. But it's worth
Speaker 4: talking about the press blitz because now there's a report
Speaker 4: that Kamala Harris is considering or in negotiations to go
Speaker 4: on Joe Rogan's podcast.
Speaker 5: That listen to our debscriber episode last week, but we
Speaker 5: said you need to go on Joe Rogan and she
Speaker 5: brought that to her team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that they did listen to that. So
Speaker 4: the strategy at work here is that I think that
Speaker 4: they're trying to reach as many persuadable voters as possible
Speaker 4: through outlets that people feel genuinely connected to. And what's
Speaker 4: interesting is she was on the cover of Vogue. The
Speaker 4: cover came out this weekend. It was very subdued, a
Speaker 4: big contrast to the last time she was on the
Speaker 4: cover of Vogue when she became the vice president. You
Speaker 4: might remember that that cover came under some criticism for
Speaker 4: the styling. She was wearing Converse. There was kind of
Speaker 4: some draped fabrics behind her. People thought that it looked
Speaker 4: disrespectful and not fully elegant enough for her office. This
Speaker 4: was a very classic, elegant, sort of politician y cover
Speaker 4: of Vogue, and it sank without a trace.
Speaker 6: Did you even hear anything about it?
Speaker 3: Nah, it was a pretty boring cover.
Speaker 5: I looked at the cover and it was exactly what
Speaker 5: you It's like if an Ai put together a Yeah,
Speaker 5: it must be of what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must be a tricky line to walk, because
Speaker 3: you could have made a cover that would have gone viral,
Speaker 3: but it probably would have had to be. She's been
Speaker 3: styled a different way, her hairs up, she's wearing a
Speaker 3: ball gown, and then that would have attracted. So it's
Speaker 3: kind of like a small target cover. But then it's
Speaker 3: anny point doing a small.
Speaker 4: Target because I think that call her Daddy appearance was
Speaker 4: seen as so revolutionary and clever. Is because the biggest
Speaker 4: sense that undecided voters have about her is that they
Speaker 4: don't know her. That's what they keep telling polsters, and
Speaker 4: they're not going to get to know her more from
Speaker 4: a super stage any leave of its Vogue cover. They
Speaker 4: need to hear her in a kind of long form
Speaker 4: podcast setting and Joe Rogan. It's a smart choice for her.
Speaker 4: Harris needs Rogan more than the other way around. Seems
Speaker 4: to be the general consent.
Speaker 3: And I also hear she's got on Fox News.
Speaker 4: Yes, which is also smart because Pete Boudajed, who's a
Speaker 4: surrogate for the campaign and also in Biden's cabinet, goes
Speaker 4: on Fox News all the time. And people say that's
Speaker 4: why he's been able to sort of hone his messaging.
Speaker 4: He's seen as sort of the greatest communicator in the
Speaker 4: Democratic Party right now, and it's probably because he's been
Speaker 4: consistently forced to talk to people who disagree with him.
Speaker 3: It's a bit late, Kamala three weeks ago, baby.
Speaker 5: Go back to what is if it's my correct count
Speaker 5: the third assassination attempt, which the reporting popped up for
Speaker 5: five minutes and then seem to disappear.
Speaker 4: I just isn't this extraordinary? It sort of goes along
Speaker 4: with the theme of this episode, I think, which is
Speaker 4: if you'd told someone in twenty twelve that the presidential
Speaker 4: nominee had had three assassination attempts and we're not even
Speaker 4: talking about it, it kind of sums it all up.
Speaker 4: I think people are pretty skeptical about this assassination attempt.
Speaker 4: I've noticed that most news outlets are putting assassination attempt
Speaker 4: in quote marks. The facts are that a man, a
Speaker 4: forty nine year old man Van Miller, was arrested outside
Speaker 4: a Trump rally in California's Coachella Valley.
Speaker 6: Yes, that Coachella.
Speaker 4: The sheriff said, I truly do believe we prevented another
Speaker 4: assassination attempt. The Secret Service disagrees with that. Miller himself
Speaker 4: said that the claim he was an assassin was complete bullshit.
Speaker 4: Now maybe that's what he would say, but it is
Speaker 4: just an interesting data point. Basically, what happened was he
Speaker 4: had a phony press passed in an unregistered car and
Speaker 4: he was stopped trying to enter the rally. When the
Speaker 4: police searched the vehicle, they found a shotgun, a loaded handgun,
Speaker 4: all sorts of guns. My view on this, it's not
Speaker 4: surprising that a forty nine year old man going to
Speaker 4: a rally in the middle of the desert has a
Speaker 4: lot of guns in his car. I don't think that
Speaker 4: necessarily proves he wanted to use the guns on Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind, forty eight percent of Republicans report they
Speaker 4: own at least one gun, sixty six percent say they
Speaker 4: live in a household with a gun, and culturally that's
Speaker 4: sort of become a Republican badge of honor? Is this
Speaker 4: idea that I own a gun, I'm not afraid to
Speaker 4: use a gun. I don't think you can make the
Speaker 4: leap there. No.
Speaker 5: I have a question from an out louder named Georgie,
Speaker 5: who has asked, I want to know what actually will
Speaker 5: change for women in America if Trump or Harris gets in,
Speaker 5: because she says with all this fake news, she can't
Speaker 5: separate fact from fiction, will it tangibly impact the lives
Speaker 5: of women?
Speaker 4: Georgie, that's a really good question. I think there's two
Speaker 4: buckets here. The first bucket is abortion, and then the
Speaker 4: second bucket is the economy. Generally first on abortion, we
Speaker 4: don't know what Trump's going to do. At various points,
Speaker 4: He's said he will sign a nationwide abortion van various
Speaker 4: points he said he won't. JD Vanns's vice presidential candidate,
Speaker 4: has said similar contradictory things about what he wants to do.
Speaker 4: The fact is about half of American women right now
Speaker 4: can't really get an abortion if they want one, or
Speaker 4: at least not easily. If Harris got in. She has
Speaker 4: said that she'd like to expand that out to more people. Again,
Speaker 4: she legislatively would find that difficult.
Speaker 3: Just going to say could she do that, she can't
Speaker 3: promise to re state she can't.
Speaker 4: So I think with a Harris administration, you'll see the
Speaker 4: status quo on abortion. With a Trump administration, it is.
Speaker 4: I think it's reasonably likely that they will do what
Speaker 4: they can to further restrict abortion access. Whether that means
Speaker 4: nationwide abortion man, I don't know, because that is pretty
Speaker 4: extreme vement for them. But Republicans have talked about minimizing
Speaker 4: access to contraception and also making it.
Speaker 6: Harder to receive the so called abortion.
Speaker 4: Bill through the mail, which is what a lot of
Speaker 4: American women do as a work around now when they
Speaker 4: can't access abortion care in their state abortion. I do
Speaker 4: think that there's some real extremist measures that we could
Speaker 4: see under a Trump administration. Under a Harris administration, I
Speaker 4: don't think we could see much change in terms of
Speaker 4: getting more women access to abortion. On the economy, I
Speaker 4: think both candidates have talked about the need to make
Speaker 4: child came more affordable, things like this.
Speaker 6: I doubt any of that will happen.
Speaker 4: To be honest, the federal government in the US can
Speaker 4: only do so much on the economy. I do think
Speaker 4: Trump wants to implement some pretty sweeping reforms that are
Speaker 4: going to make consumer goods just hugely more expensive. So
Speaker 4: that's going to impact women and the economy as a whole.
Speaker 4: He wants to start more trade wars with China and others.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a volatile time economically, and that
Speaker 4: will have real implications for American women and also Australian women.
Speaker 4: By the way, Beyond that, I think those are the
Speaker 4: two buckets.
Speaker 3: Another out Louder has a question. Lenny writes, I would
Speaker 3: like to get under the backstory of Trump wants donating
Speaker 3: to come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for this, Lenny, because this actually caused me
Speaker 4: to look into Trump's political history.
Speaker 6: Did you know that he.
Speaker 4: Was going to run for president in nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 4: two thousand as an independent party?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I vaguely remember this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 3: So he threatened to run for president quite a few
Speaker 3: times before he actually did it.
Speaker 4: He did, but he got quite close in ninety nine,
Speaker 4: two thousand. As I say, he was an independent candidate there.
Speaker 4: It's very much a two party system in the US,
Speaker 4: so there's no way he would have won but it's
Speaker 4: interesting to note then he was a registered Democrat. So
Speaker 4: in the US, when you register to vote, you need
Speaker 4: to declare whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. You
Speaker 4: can declare as not affiliated, which is what journalists like
Speaker 4: myself tend to do, but the default is that you
Speaker 4: declare for one party or the other. So with that
Speaker 4: in mind, from two thousand to twenty eleven he was
Speaker 4: a registered Democrat, which is not at all surprising. He
Speaker 4: lived in New York City, where the vast majority of people,
Speaker 4: particularly even the wealthiest people there, tend to be Democrats.
Speaker 4: He moved in social circles with the Clintons. Milania appeared
Speaker 4: on the cover of Vogue when they got married in
Speaker 4: two thousand and six. That's notable because an a Winter
Speaker 4: editor is a huge Democratic sarrogate and would not have
Speaker 4: put Millennia on the cover if there was any hint
Speaker 4: of Republicanism there. In twenty eleven, he did re register
Speaker 4: as a Republican that same year, though he cut a
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars check for Kamala Harris's reelection campaign to
Speaker 4: be California's Attorney General. The backstory on that is Fox
Speaker 4: News discovered that he wrote this check to attendee fundraising
Speaker 4: dinner for Harris, which Avanka Trump attended, and then Avanka
Speaker 4: actually donated again in twenty fourteen to Harris.
Speaker 5: Why hasn't that been made a bigger deal of.
Speaker 4: Because I think everyone knows that avunka politically had never
Speaker 4: really agreed with her father, but then when along in
Speaker 4: a naked power grab when he did get into office.
Speaker 4: Some people have joked that Harris should spend that money
Speaker 4: that he gave her there on her presidential campaign. Now
Speaker 4: it's not possible. The Sacramento b which is a California newspaper,
Speaker 4: reported in twenty twenty that she'd actually given away the
Speaker 4: entire six thousand dollars he'd given her when she began
Speaker 4: her run for the US Senate because she knew already
Speaker 4: at that point this was toxic money, and she gave
Speaker 4: it to a civil rights nonprofit working in Central America, which.
Speaker 6: Is a nice bowl. On top of this whole story.
Speaker 3: That's really interesting, not because I'm surprised that Trump was
Speaker 3: a Democrat, because I don't believe he gives a shit
Speaker 3: about anything except for Trump so his swing with the breeze,
Speaker 3: but he loves to say what a mess she made
Speaker 3: of California and how California is as attorney general, and
Speaker 3: that how it's a cesspool, and it's like, well, you
Speaker 3: thought at one point she was a good thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And it also hits on something which Australian listeners may
Speaker 4: not be aware of, which is that in the US,
Speaker 4: because it's so much more polarized. If you are a
Speaker 4: rich person living in New York, you are a Democrat.
Speaker 4: It's not like here where the sort of like moneyed
Speaker 4: end of town won't really tell you who they're voting for.
Speaker 4: It's out in the open for him to live in
Speaker 4: New York as long as he did and to be
Speaker 4: moving in the vogue circles. By definition, he's a Democrat.
Speaker 4: So that's what made his run for office all the
Speaker 4: more shocking and surprising.
Speaker 3: And why he lives in Florida.
Speaker 6: Why he lives in Florida.
Speaker 5: Now, Charlotte asked this question, which I am wondering too,
Speaker 5: because we are two and a half weeks out from
Speaker 5: the people going and voting. She asks, how long until
Speaker 5: we will know before the final electoral college count?
Speaker 6: Oh, Charlotte, Charlotte, I'm not that smart. I wish I knew.
Speaker 4: I mean, one thing's for sure, you were not going
Speaker 4: to know on election night. We haven't known on election
Speaker 4: night the last few elections, So that's do you know.
Speaker 6: The next stage?
Speaker 5: And like, how does it normally go? Because I forget
Speaker 5: this every election.
Speaker 3: But except remind me because you say we didn't know,
Speaker 3: and we didn't. But remember that horrible day in twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen with the New York Times needle, which was election
Speaker 3: Day where everybody thought. I remember even here, we were
Speaker 3: all obsessed with that needle on the front of the
Speaker 3: right and they were counting out and obviously it's not
Speaker 3: the final vote count, but obviously there was enough momentum
Speaker 3: in the Trump direction that it wasn't. Everybody started crying.
Speaker 3: Obviously the next election was much tighter, took longer.
Speaker 4: And then we've talked on this very podcast about the
Speaker 4: two thousand election which the Supreme Court had to settle,
Speaker 4: which came down to five hundred votes. Yes, so yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, Holly, maybe we will know an election night,
Speaker 4: but given how close the polls are this time, they're
Speaker 4: even closer than they were in twenty twenty, so it
Speaker 4: seems pretty unlikely. And I'm not going to get into
Speaker 4: the details here because I've been told they're boring by
Speaker 4: me or and I think.
Speaker 6: She's probably right.
Speaker 4: But suffice to say, there's a lot of funny business
Speaker 4: that can happen after the votes are counted and before
Speaker 4: the Electoral College actually meets in Washington, DC in January,
Speaker 4: and some people say that the Republicans are laying the
Speaker 4: groundwork for some dodgy practices in terms of what the
Speaker 4: people have voted for, not necessarily translating into the Electoral
Speaker 4: College voters and what they vote for.
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy that everybody keeps saying we don't.
Speaker 6: Know enough about her.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you want to know? Like you,
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 4: At the same time, I do think that people have
Speaker 4: said that she's giving kind of pat answers to things,
Speaker 4: and I have been a little frustrated about that.
Speaker 5: Jesse, Yeah, I've felt the same that there are still
Speaker 5: questions that she hasn't answered.
Speaker 3: What do you want to say?
Speaker 5: I think that there are still questions even about immigration,
Speaker 5: about the economy where she doesn't get specific any.
Speaker 4: And what drives her I think is this sort of
Speaker 4: growing consensus that we don't know what her fundamental drive.
Speaker 5: Is about, which is why we need a press blitz,
Speaker 5: which is why we need to say we.
Speaker 3: Were on a press blitz. I thought we'd been on
Speaker 3: a press blitz for the last ten days.
Speaker 4: Let me give you one example before we end, which
Speaker 4: is that the Washington Post publisher piece this year this
Speaker 4: week it felt like this year about the six years
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris spent six years in Canada during high school,
Speaker 4: which she has literally never mentioned, never mentioned. And this
Speaker 4: story she tells, which is about how there was a
Speaker 4: girl at her high school who was being sexually abused
Speaker 4: and this is what got her story of becoming a
Speaker 4: district attorney that was in Canada.
Speaker 6: That was not even an American story.
Speaker 3: Wow, and it personally I think that matters, But go on, No,
Speaker 3: but the way that it's told makes it sound like
Speaker 3: she was her neighbor from her her neighborhood in San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I just think it says it all that
Speaker 4: this far into this election, I'm reading that she spent
Speaker 4: high school in another country.
Speaker 6: It was surprising.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I agree with that. What we need is
Speaker 5: four hours Joe Rogan to sit down.
Speaker 3: That will horrible. You'll get the probably It's like this
Speaker 3: is the buy and she's in especially as a woman.
Speaker 3: The more you say, the more holes can be picked.
Speaker 3: Nobody is perfect. Look at Albanisi in his house, like
Speaker 3: nobody is perfect.
Speaker 6: There will be holes perfect before.
Speaker 3: This is so annoying, but it's such an own goal,
Speaker 3: like Welts and the China thing, like just tell people
Speaker 3: the things. If you haven't goneything to hide, just tell
Speaker 3: them the thing.
Speaker 4: Then again, you said she's going to smoke weed with him?
Speaker 4: Do you know that her father and Kamala stopped speaking
Speaker 4: for years because when she was running for office a
Speaker 4: few years ago, she was asked to her you on
Speaker 4: legalizing marijuana, and she said something to the effect of,
Speaker 4: my family's from Jamaica. You think I'm really going to
Speaker 4: against And her father, who's an economics professor, who do
Speaker 4: you grow up in Jamaica took offense at that sort
Speaker 4: of evocation of a stereotype, and that's what caused him
Speaker 4: to not speak for years.
Speaker 6: So I don't think she's going to smoke, But.
Speaker 3: How it drives me crazy think of all the things
Speaker 3: that Trump has done that we know, like we know him,
Speaker 3: we don't give.
Speaker 4: A shit, Like when he dances for thirty seven in
Speaker 4: the street.
Speaker 6: Someone argue we know too much. We're way too much.
Speaker 3: The faces he pulled anyway, Thank you, Amelia. We will
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Speaker 6: Bye bye.
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