1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with Me podcast. 2 00:00:15,914 --> 00:00:18,754 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink was seriously disturbed 3 00:00:18,914 --> 00:00:21,314 Speaker 2: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking. 4 00:00:21,553 --> 00:00:22,553 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you. 5 00:00:22,594 --> 00:00:23,354 Speaker 3: Have to do it. 6 00:00:23,394 --> 00:00:27,594 Speaker 2: You live for fashion. Hello and welcome to Nothing to 7 00:00:27,634 --> 00:00:30,514 Speaker 2: Wear the podcast. It solves fashion problems and levels up 8 00:00:30,514 --> 00:00:31,114 Speaker 2: your wardrobe. 9 00:00:31,274 --> 00:00:32,874 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell and I'm back. 10 00:00:33,274 --> 00:00:35,034 Speaker 2: I have taken some time off over the past few 11 00:00:35,034 --> 00:00:37,634 Speaker 2: months to spend it with my mum before she passed away. 12 00:00:37,754 --> 00:00:39,833 Speaker 2: But as you know, if you're a regular listener, you 13 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:42,394 Speaker 2: were in very good hands. But it's great to be back. 14 00:00:42,434 --> 00:00:44,634 Speaker 2: So thank you to the Nothing to Wear audience for 15 00:00:44,674 --> 00:00:46,833 Speaker 2: having me back and all the lovely messages while I 16 00:00:46,954 --> 00:00:50,153 Speaker 2: was gone. Now, my first episode back is a good one. 17 00:00:50,233 --> 00:00:52,553 Speaker 2: I have fresh new talent for us. Her name is 18 00:00:52,634 --> 00:00:56,194 Speaker 2: Sam and she's a wardrobe strategist. She only arrived in 19 00:00:56,194 --> 00:00:58,514 Speaker 2: Australia a couple of months ago and she has a 20 00:00:58,554 --> 00:01:02,194 Speaker 2: fresh new take on our wardrobes. And guess what We're 21 00:01:02,234 --> 00:01:04,634 Speaker 2: not doing any shopping in this episode. Well, we have 22 00:01:04,674 --> 00:01:07,674 Speaker 2: a few boogie and budget recommendations, but we'll explain why 23 00:01:07,834 --> 00:01:10,754 Speaker 2: at the end. So Sam is all about strategy and 24 00:01:10,834 --> 00:01:13,074 Speaker 2: guess what you stand in front of your wardrobe and 25 00:01:13,074 --> 00:01:15,834 Speaker 2: say I have nothing to wear because you probably have 26 00:01:15,954 --> 00:01:18,634 Speaker 2: too much or you don't know how to style what 27 00:01:18,754 --> 00:01:21,994 Speaker 2: you already have. And with technology and social media, you 28 00:01:22,034 --> 00:01:24,754 Speaker 2: can press two or three buttons and you've ordered something new, 29 00:01:24,794 --> 00:01:27,634 Speaker 2: which feels more exciting and less hard than looking at 30 00:01:27,634 --> 00:01:30,914 Speaker 2: what you've already got. But it's hiding in your wardrobe. 31 00:01:30,954 --> 00:01:33,434 Speaker 2: Your personal style is there. So Sam's going to teach 32 00:01:33,514 --> 00:01:35,634 Speaker 2: us how to go through what we already have, pair 33 00:01:35,674 --> 00:01:38,594 Speaker 2: things together and style our clothes that we already love 34 00:01:38,834 --> 00:01:41,874 Speaker 2: instead of just buying something new. So let's get into it. 35 00:01:42,234 --> 00:01:42,554 Speaker 1: Sam. 36 00:01:42,634 --> 00:01:44,234 Speaker 2: Firstly, welcome to Nothing to Wear. 37 00:01:44,394 --> 00:01:44,794 Speaker 3: Thank you. 38 00:01:45,154 --> 00:01:47,714 Speaker 2: Now, before we get into your topic, which I desperately 39 00:01:47,754 --> 00:01:50,714 Speaker 2: need to talk about, there's two questions I start with 40 00:01:50,834 --> 00:01:52,874 Speaker 2: for new guests. So the first one is can you 41 00:01:52,914 --> 00:01:55,354 Speaker 2: describe your own style in three words? 42 00:01:55,874 --> 00:01:57,074 Speaker 3: Oh? 43 00:01:57,154 --> 00:02:02,234 Speaker 1: Yes, probably relaxed, because I don't like anything too fossy. 44 00:02:02,434 --> 00:02:06,554 Speaker 1: I need to move around, be with the cards every day. 45 00:02:07,234 --> 00:02:09,274 Speaker 1: Probably on fussy, actually fussy. 46 00:02:09,434 --> 00:02:09,994 Speaker 2: I like that. 47 00:02:10,314 --> 00:02:12,673 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just like to be I'm very grounded 48 00:02:12,754 --> 00:02:15,754 Speaker 1: in my personal stale. I feel like I've been there, 49 00:02:15,834 --> 00:02:18,954 Speaker 1: done that in terms of the trends, and I just 50 00:02:19,074 --> 00:02:22,554 Speaker 1: know what I like, and it is very much relaxed, 51 00:02:22,714 --> 00:02:24,594 Speaker 1: grinded on fussy definitely. 52 00:02:24,834 --> 00:02:26,874 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my gosh, that's what we all want to be. 53 00:02:27,074 --> 00:02:30,514 Speaker 2: I am relaxed usually because I only look nice twice 54 00:02:30,514 --> 00:02:33,474 Speaker 2: a week and then I just look. But they're very good. 55 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:33,874 Speaker 3: Okay. 56 00:02:34,434 --> 00:02:36,634 Speaker 2: There's a theory that most people have a wardrobe full 57 00:02:36,634 --> 00:02:38,394 Speaker 2: of clothes, whether that be a lot of clothes or 58 00:02:38,434 --> 00:02:40,634 Speaker 2: a small amount, but they wear ten percent of what 59 00:02:40,674 --> 00:02:43,314 Speaker 2: they own. Yeah, the most. Yeah, almost ninety percent of 60 00:02:43,314 --> 00:02:45,114 Speaker 2: the time. What's in new your ten percent? On the 61 00:02:45,194 --> 00:02:47,274 Speaker 2: highest rotation, I. 62 00:02:47,234 --> 00:02:52,353 Speaker 1: Would say white T shirt. I'm constantly my white T shirt, jeans, 63 00:02:52,674 --> 00:02:57,434 Speaker 1: Madgie Scott's. I've been wearing weight allot. It just easy 64 00:02:57,474 --> 00:03:01,834 Speaker 1: slip on stuff like that. Black shosers, white T shirts. 65 00:03:01,834 --> 00:03:02,234 Speaker 2: Do you have that? 66 00:03:02,594 --> 00:03:07,074 Speaker 1: I actually do have quite a few because those different shapes. 67 00:03:07,114 --> 00:03:09,154 Speaker 1: I have an off sized one, I have a baby one. 68 00:03:09,274 --> 00:03:12,594 Speaker 1: I have a relaxed one. I hope different color. I 69 00:03:12,634 --> 00:03:13,394 Speaker 1: can't make me. 70 00:03:13,554 --> 00:03:15,233 Speaker 2: I'm a white T shirt girl. Yeah, so I'm glad 71 00:03:15,274 --> 00:03:15,874 Speaker 2: that you say that. 72 00:03:15,954 --> 00:03:18,194 Speaker 1: I used to be the tape of person who would 73 00:03:18,194 --> 00:03:20,634 Speaker 1: be like, we only need two T shirts, But now 74 00:03:20,634 --> 00:03:21,794 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you wear it all the time. 75 00:03:21,794 --> 00:03:23,594 Speaker 2: What do you only have two pairs of bundies exactly? 76 00:03:24,954 --> 00:03:27,474 Speaker 2: So far we're very similar. I'm always a gene, but 77 00:03:27,514 --> 00:03:29,594 Speaker 2: I'm slowly well. I've always loved a maxiskirt or a 78 00:03:29,594 --> 00:03:31,834 Speaker 2: midi skirt, but I think back again this season in 79 00:03:31,874 --> 00:03:33,274 Speaker 2: a way that they haven't been for a while. 80 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:37,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm constantly wearing like a longer short these days, 81 00:03:37,594 --> 00:03:39,594 Speaker 1: or whether it's a tail short, whether it's a box 82 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:41,874 Speaker 1: or sure, a longer length. 83 00:03:41,994 --> 00:03:43,834 Speaker 3: I have been gravitying towards them. 84 00:03:44,114 --> 00:03:46,514 Speaker 2: But nothing too full on the waist, nothing too full 85 00:03:46,554 --> 00:03:47,074 Speaker 2: on the waist. 86 00:03:47,154 --> 00:03:47,434 Speaker 3: Nothing. 87 00:03:47,754 --> 00:03:49,634 Speaker 2: I've got a pair of shorts off Deepop recently and 88 00:03:49,674 --> 00:03:51,794 Speaker 2: they were gorgeously that brad Rowie or something. But then 89 00:03:51,874 --> 00:03:53,754 Speaker 2: I've realized, well, they look so cupe. But then they've 90 00:03:53,754 --> 00:03:55,074 Speaker 2: got this bucket, like they've got a built in belt 91 00:03:55,114 --> 00:03:56,514 Speaker 2: with a bucket that goes across there and then across 92 00:03:56,514 --> 00:03:59,994 Speaker 2: there's too much fust asn't it too much fust RePOP, 93 00:04:00,074 --> 00:04:02,954 Speaker 2: see you later. I wear too much. So I sometimes 94 00:04:02,954 --> 00:04:05,754 Speaker 2: if it looks not unfussy, the item can it self 95 00:04:05,794 --> 00:04:06,154 Speaker 2: be home. 96 00:04:06,114 --> 00:04:08,114 Speaker 1: Oh deafe now and you can stand in front of 97 00:04:08,154 --> 00:04:10,234 Speaker 1: that mirror and go yes, this looks amazing, and when 98 00:04:10,274 --> 00:04:13,394 Speaker 1: you walk around and you do your day to day things, yeah, 99 00:04:13,434 --> 00:04:13,794 Speaker 1: it's like. 100 00:04:14,074 --> 00:04:15,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you don't reach for the end. Okay, yeah, 101 00:04:16,034 --> 00:04:18,234 Speaker 2: I feel like you might clean so far. Okay, So 102 00:04:18,394 --> 00:04:21,113 Speaker 2: you're here to help us fall back in love with 103 00:04:21,154 --> 00:04:25,234 Speaker 2: our wardrobe and where the things we own through styling, 104 00:04:25,794 --> 00:04:28,393 Speaker 2: not shopping. Yeah, so this is not a shopping episode. 105 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:30,753 Speaker 2: We may have a few recommendations at the end, but 106 00:04:32,193 --> 00:04:34,073 Speaker 2: this podcast has got nothing to wear for good reason. 107 00:04:34,154 --> 00:04:36,514 Speaker 2: There's many a woman who's stood in front of all 108 00:04:36,513 --> 00:04:39,433 Speaker 2: their clothes, their wardrobe whatever, however they've got on the 109 00:04:39,594 --> 00:04:42,633 Speaker 2: chair and they've said, I've got nothing to wear. So 110 00:04:42,753 --> 00:04:43,993 Speaker 2: why does that happen to us? 111 00:04:43,993 --> 00:04:44,513 Speaker 3: Do you think? 112 00:04:45,193 --> 00:04:48,553 Speaker 1: I think it's probably we have too many options. We 113 00:04:48,594 --> 00:04:53,754 Speaker 1: are overwhelmed by our wardrobes. We shop by occasion. We 114 00:04:53,834 --> 00:04:55,754 Speaker 1: have a meeting to go to. We made sure we 115 00:04:55,914 --> 00:04:58,393 Speaker 1: have a party to go to. We mate sure we 116 00:04:58,474 --> 00:05:02,273 Speaker 1: shop like that, rather than we're kind of daily life, 117 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:03,953 Speaker 1: so we can't. You can't see the wood for the 118 00:05:03,953 --> 00:05:06,674 Speaker 1: trees when you're looking at your wardrobe bond you know? 119 00:05:06,834 --> 00:05:09,633 Speaker 1: Can I will today when you're dressing for your just normal, 120 00:05:09,753 --> 00:05:13,633 Speaker 1: everyday life and you could have too many anchor pieces. 121 00:05:13,674 --> 00:05:16,834 Speaker 1: So it's like those standout pieces that. 122 00:05:16,914 --> 00:05:19,914 Speaker 2: You beautiful you go to a copy. 123 00:05:19,993 --> 00:05:22,873 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, do you have your actual basics 124 00:05:22,953 --> 00:05:25,713 Speaker 1: and order your gingal t shirts, your muddy dressing, you know, 125 00:05:25,953 --> 00:05:30,273 Speaker 1: your Scot's, your shots, anything like that. So we get 126 00:05:30,313 --> 00:05:36,193 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by that. Yeah. Also shop like constantly via Instagram 127 00:05:36,313 --> 00:05:39,594 Speaker 1: and talk and things like that, So we have impulse buying, 128 00:05:39,714 --> 00:05:42,994 Speaker 1: but we might not be thinking twice about our apoptes. 129 00:05:43,193 --> 00:05:45,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You do it before you can even really 130 00:05:45,034 --> 00:05:47,593 Speaker 2: consider it. Sometimes even half an hour goes by if 131 00:05:47,594 --> 00:05:49,513 Speaker 2: I haven't bought it, I'm like, oh no, I don't need. 132 00:05:49,313 --> 00:05:50,153 Speaker 3: That, Oh my god. 133 00:05:50,193 --> 00:05:51,794 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I always say that, going to have 134 00:05:51,794 --> 00:05:53,794 Speaker 1: a cup of tea or a coffee and then kin, 135 00:05:53,834 --> 00:05:56,193 Speaker 1: I think about it. But yeah, we're buying for that 136 00:05:56,274 --> 00:06:01,674 Speaker 1: kind of fantasy self rather than our actual everyday lifestyle. 137 00:06:01,753 --> 00:06:05,113 Speaker 2: And you know, so true. So we're being conditioned to 138 00:06:05,113 --> 00:06:09,394 Speaker 2: think we need to buy something for every occasion. Why 139 00:06:09,393 --> 00:06:10,953 Speaker 2: does that make us harder? I mean, I get it 140 00:06:10,993 --> 00:06:13,633 Speaker 2: hard I guess you just answered that is that I 141 00:06:13,674 --> 00:06:16,633 Speaker 2: think it's harder to get dressed because we both love 142 00:06:16,633 --> 00:06:18,193 Speaker 2: a white T shirt. But shopping for a white T 143 00:06:18,274 --> 00:06:20,314 Speaker 2: shirt isn't particularly exciting. 144 00:06:20,873 --> 00:06:22,234 Speaker 3: No, it's not. That's the thing. 145 00:06:22,274 --> 00:06:27,234 Speaker 1: It's like we get we get excited by the glamour items. 146 00:06:28,313 --> 00:06:30,633 Speaker 1: Why life are. 147 00:06:30,034 --> 00:06:30,713 Speaker 3: We wearing those? 148 00:06:30,834 --> 00:06:34,473 Speaker 1: Stea But I love to I spend my money and 149 00:06:34,553 --> 00:06:39,394 Speaker 1: I love to art accessories. Adnase colored shoe at a humbug. 150 00:06:39,553 --> 00:06:42,514 Speaker 1: That's where I get my excitement. So I could wear 151 00:06:42,513 --> 00:06:45,073 Speaker 1: a black jeans, black T shirt, white T shirt, but 152 00:06:45,073 --> 00:06:46,473 Speaker 1: then I could wear a red shoe or. 153 00:06:48,193 --> 00:06:51,314 Speaker 2: YouTube and I love it. It's a poper color of 154 00:06:51,354 --> 00:06:53,234 Speaker 2: it's boring, it's really thought. 155 00:06:53,474 --> 00:06:56,433 Speaker 1: Now, that's where I get my kind of texture and 156 00:06:56,594 --> 00:07:00,633 Speaker 1: interest and excitement pieces from. Yes, that's clever. Get your 157 00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:01,234 Speaker 1: thrills there. 158 00:07:01,313 --> 00:07:03,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, So talk to me again and a bit more 159 00:07:03,393 --> 00:07:05,914 Speaker 2: in depth with your personal journey with this. So you've 160 00:07:05,953 --> 00:07:08,633 Speaker 2: been me or if else where they've got maybe a 161 00:07:08,674 --> 00:07:10,473 Speaker 2: bunch of clothes might be the same amount as you, 162 00:07:10,514 --> 00:07:12,634 Speaker 2: but they're not wearing them all. How did you get 163 00:07:12,634 --> 00:07:14,634 Speaker 2: to the point where you went, hang on, I don't 164 00:07:14,674 --> 00:07:16,233 Speaker 2: go to the oscars every week. 165 00:07:17,914 --> 00:07:20,314 Speaker 1: I think it was from my top Shop days when 166 00:07:20,314 --> 00:07:22,273 Speaker 1: I used to work in head office top Shop as 167 00:07:22,314 --> 00:07:27,194 Speaker 1: an international buyer. I was noticing that I was constantly 168 00:07:27,234 --> 00:07:30,514 Speaker 1: being fed because I was in that environment where the 169 00:07:30,554 --> 00:07:32,754 Speaker 1: trends are going to be you know, it's going to 170 00:07:32,754 --> 00:07:35,474 Speaker 1: be new and the trends and sex Mon's time, and. 171 00:07:35,434 --> 00:07:37,794 Speaker 2: I was prey, you know, the on thought of social 172 00:07:37,874 --> 00:07:40,034 Speaker 2: media where I think the everyday person now gets fed 173 00:07:40,074 --> 00:07:41,914 Speaker 2: all that. But you were kind of like an insider. 174 00:07:42,393 --> 00:07:44,394 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I knew it was going to be 175 00:07:44,434 --> 00:07:46,114 Speaker 1: in Top Shop in like sex month's time. So I 176 00:07:46,154 --> 00:07:49,514 Speaker 1: was constantly being fed that information. But then when I 177 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:52,434 Speaker 1: looked around, so I was that person who was like, Okay, 178 00:07:52,474 --> 00:07:54,074 Speaker 1: you're telling me that I need to be dressed in 179 00:07:54,114 --> 00:07:56,473 Speaker 1: seventies head to toll. Yes, then I'm going to be 180 00:07:56,514 --> 00:07:57,874 Speaker 1: dressed in seventies head to toll. 181 00:07:57,874 --> 00:07:58,434 Speaker 3: I love it. 182 00:07:58,474 --> 00:07:59,354 Speaker 2: You've got at your job. 183 00:08:00,474 --> 00:08:04,514 Speaker 1: But it was just constant, and I was exhausted by that, 184 00:08:04,754 --> 00:08:08,833 Speaker 1: chasing the trends or trying to to, you know, be 185 00:08:08,994 --> 00:08:12,314 Speaker 1: that trendy person. But then when I looked around, the 186 00:08:12,393 --> 00:08:17,434 Speaker 1: women who looked confiding and stylish were the ones that 187 00:08:17,594 --> 00:08:21,953 Speaker 1: weren't buying everything every trend cycle, every season. 188 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,034 Speaker 3: They were the ones that looked. 189 00:08:23,754 --> 00:08:26,994 Speaker 1: Put together, and they were repeating outfits and they were 190 00:08:27,034 --> 00:08:30,593 Speaker 1: repeating style and their styles, and they just looked absolutely 191 00:08:30,634 --> 00:08:35,314 Speaker 1: incredibly they knew who they were, they had personal style, 192 00:08:35,953 --> 00:08:38,194 Speaker 1: and that you know, I was we were working with 193 00:08:38,234 --> 00:08:40,754 Speaker 1: the best buyers, we were working with the best designers, 194 00:08:41,114 --> 00:08:42,874 Speaker 1: and they were going to tell you what the next 195 00:08:42,914 --> 00:08:46,794 Speaker 1: big trends were. But when I looked around, these people 196 00:08:47,394 --> 00:08:52,234 Speaker 1: themselves actually had their own personal style figured so they 197 00:08:52,394 --> 00:08:56,634 Speaker 1: were chasing those new items all the time. 198 00:08:56,714 --> 00:08:58,154 Speaker 3: They knew exactly who they were. 199 00:08:58,594 --> 00:09:01,594 Speaker 1: So that kind of kind of was like, hm, got 200 00:09:01,594 --> 00:09:05,914 Speaker 1: my brain kind of gone. And then I actually worked 201 00:09:05,994 --> 00:09:08,954 Speaker 1: on the Australian mark it when I wan for top Shops, 202 00:09:08,994 --> 00:09:10,874 Speaker 1: So I would come here and I'd visit, and I 203 00:09:11,154 --> 00:09:15,394 Speaker 1: loved that most of the kind of the retailers and 204 00:09:15,434 --> 00:09:19,833 Speaker 1: the brands were very minimal, vitulate, black and white, normal foss. 205 00:09:20,074 --> 00:09:25,394 Speaker 1: So I lived and breathed these brands like for probably 206 00:09:25,434 --> 00:09:28,514 Speaker 1: about four years. So that and then then and then 207 00:09:28,514 --> 00:09:31,154 Speaker 1: the next major thing was having kids. Yeah, oh that 208 00:09:31,234 --> 00:09:34,554 Speaker 1: changes everything, That just changes your whole life. But also yeah, yes, 209 00:09:34,874 --> 00:09:36,794 Speaker 1: well you don't obtain to be like I used to late, 210 00:09:36,914 --> 00:09:39,674 Speaker 1: leave my claws out, try it all on the name before. 211 00:09:39,714 --> 00:09:40,994 Speaker 3: You don't obtain anyone. 212 00:09:41,434 --> 00:09:42,634 Speaker 1: I do it in my head and then I got 213 00:09:42,634 --> 00:09:43,953 Speaker 1: to put it stuf work. 214 00:09:43,994 --> 00:09:46,514 Speaker 2: But there's Yeah, it's interesting you say that about the 215 00:09:46,514 --> 00:09:48,274 Speaker 2: Ausier market. I think because we have such a small 216 00:09:48,314 --> 00:09:51,514 Speaker 2: population in relation to a lot of the you know, 217 00:09:51,554 --> 00:09:54,874 Speaker 2: overseas markets, our retailers and brands don't take as many 218 00:09:54,954 --> 00:09:57,514 Speaker 2: risks because they just can't make that many styles and 219 00:09:57,514 --> 00:10:00,274 Speaker 2: then sell that many skews. So we have a limited choice. 220 00:10:00,274 --> 00:10:02,953 Speaker 2: But I think that's almost easier for us. I mean 221 00:10:02,954 --> 00:10:05,834 Speaker 2: now we shop like like you say, Instagram and every 222 00:10:05,834 --> 00:10:09,114 Speaker 2: website chips everywhere. Yes, but it's opened up more choice, 223 00:10:09,114 --> 00:10:10,034 Speaker 2: which is more confusing. 224 00:10:10,194 --> 00:10:20,594 Speaker 3: Yes, So we're. 225 00:10:20,394 --> 00:10:23,954 Speaker 2: Talking about styling, not shopping, so feeling good in clothes 226 00:10:23,954 --> 00:10:26,634 Speaker 2: that we're not buying new things. I mean, that's pretty 227 00:10:26,634 --> 00:10:29,674 Speaker 2: self explanatory, but can you elaborate on what we mean 228 00:10:29,714 --> 00:10:31,994 Speaker 2: by that? You know, the average person probably doesn't think 229 00:10:32,034 --> 00:10:34,394 Speaker 2: so much about styling. They know what a stylist is, 230 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:36,914 Speaker 2: but they just put their goes on and go. So 231 00:10:37,114 --> 00:10:39,554 Speaker 2: what is styling when it comes to you know us 232 00:10:39,594 --> 00:10:41,473 Speaker 2: every day women that are in our wardrobes. 233 00:10:41,114 --> 00:10:43,074 Speaker 1: In the morning a lot of the time when I 234 00:10:43,114 --> 00:10:45,594 Speaker 1: am speaking to my clients and everything, it's like they'll 235 00:10:45,594 --> 00:10:48,674 Speaker 1: have their they'll have their options and the wardrobe is 236 00:10:48,754 --> 00:10:51,674 Speaker 1: just how to peel them together. It's about, you know, 237 00:10:51,794 --> 00:10:56,394 Speaker 1: that contrast of bargie and slam and you know, structured 238 00:10:56,514 --> 00:11:01,434 Speaker 1: and relaxed. It's about balance and proportion as well. 239 00:11:01,834 --> 00:11:02,754 Speaker 3: A lot of people. 240 00:11:03,194 --> 00:11:06,314 Speaker 1: You know, you know, body tape is Jason for your 241 00:11:06,314 --> 00:11:08,834 Speaker 1: body tape is maybe a bit. 242 00:11:08,994 --> 00:11:10,714 Speaker 3: People believe in it, people don't. 243 00:11:11,274 --> 00:11:14,754 Speaker 1: But I think knowledge is key in that department when 244 00:11:14,794 --> 00:11:18,354 Speaker 1: it comes to your body type. You might not dress 245 00:11:18,474 --> 00:11:23,474 Speaker 1: exactly like these types, but understanding what suits you and 246 00:11:23,954 --> 00:11:27,674 Speaker 1: your body in terms of balance and proportion is really 247 00:11:27,834 --> 00:11:28,474 Speaker 1: really key. 248 00:11:28,554 --> 00:11:30,554 Speaker 2: You feel good in I think you feel good and 249 00:11:30,754 --> 00:11:32,914 Speaker 2: you can go okay, oh I do like a line 250 00:11:32,954 --> 00:11:35,834 Speaker 2: and maybe yeah, just as good. It's because it gives 251 00:11:35,834 --> 00:11:36,354 Speaker 2: me this shaite. 252 00:11:36,474 --> 00:11:38,874 Speaker 1: Yes, it's understanding that, and a lot of people don't 253 00:11:38,954 --> 00:11:41,274 Speaker 1: understand that. I always say to my clients it's like 254 00:11:41,674 --> 00:11:44,074 Speaker 1: it's like dressing a bedroom. You know, you don't put 255 00:11:44,114 --> 00:11:45,794 Speaker 1: all your furniture at the one side. 256 00:11:45,954 --> 00:11:47,274 Speaker 3: You know you've got to. 257 00:11:47,274 --> 00:11:51,074 Speaker 1: Balance it all out analogy. Yeah, and because people know 258 00:11:51,114 --> 00:11:53,234 Speaker 1: how to dress a bedroom amazingly. 259 00:11:53,314 --> 00:11:55,514 Speaker 3: You've got your bed in the center, you've. 260 00:11:55,314 --> 00:11:58,714 Speaker 1: Got your two bedside tables, you've got your lamps, but 261 00:11:58,794 --> 00:12:00,994 Speaker 1: your lamps, you know, they have to be in proportion 262 00:12:01,354 --> 00:12:04,234 Speaker 1: with your bedside. You don't have this. So it's kind 263 00:12:04,234 --> 00:12:06,114 Speaker 1: of like that when you're dressing your body. So the 264 00:12:06,154 --> 00:12:09,474 Speaker 1: more you understand your body, it's not restriction when it 265 00:12:09,474 --> 00:12:13,474 Speaker 1: comes to body type, it's just understanding it and the proportions. 266 00:12:13,634 --> 00:12:15,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably know, if you look at the items you 267 00:12:15,594 --> 00:12:18,034 Speaker 2: wear a lot, like you're ten percent, you know, ninety 268 00:12:18,034 --> 00:12:19,914 Speaker 2: percent of the time, it's probably like, Okay, well those 269 00:12:19,994 --> 00:12:22,194 Speaker 2: do fit my proportions because I feel great in them. 270 00:12:22,594 --> 00:12:23,714 Speaker 2: Therefore I can start there. 271 00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:26,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's just kind of mixing in march 272 00:12:26,234 --> 00:12:26,674 Speaker 3: and with that. 273 00:12:26,954 --> 00:12:29,234 Speaker 1: So it's like if I'm wearing I'm wearing baggy jeans, 274 00:12:29,394 --> 00:12:31,714 Speaker 1: I'm going to wear a slim a slim T shirt 275 00:12:31,754 --> 00:12:33,713 Speaker 1: with that. And it's like if I was going to 276 00:12:33,874 --> 00:12:36,954 Speaker 1: wear an oversized blazer, but the oversized blazer and the 277 00:12:37,074 --> 00:12:40,514 Speaker 1: oversized jeans just looked too too much for my proportion 278 00:12:40,674 --> 00:12:42,554 Speaker 1: and petite, So I just need to watch that and 279 00:12:42,594 --> 00:12:46,594 Speaker 1: balance it out. So a crop jacket here, slammer jacket, 280 00:12:47,034 --> 00:12:50,114 Speaker 1: you know, felt much better for me in my petite frame. 281 00:12:50,194 --> 00:12:52,834 Speaker 1: So it's just understanding that and then it's those little 282 00:12:52,834 --> 00:12:55,634 Speaker 1: style in details like pulling the sleeves. 283 00:12:55,274 --> 00:12:59,794 Speaker 2: Off, yes, rolling the sleeves, Yeah, to do that in general, 284 00:12:59,874 --> 00:13:01,634 Speaker 2: do you think I really know how? 285 00:13:02,034 --> 00:13:03,754 Speaker 3: I think it is a bit of a nuisance. 286 00:13:03,754 --> 00:13:06,994 Speaker 1: And that's where I'm like, if I hope to manage Yeah, 287 00:13:07,274 --> 00:13:09,754 Speaker 1: I kind of see to my clients like I am 288 00:13:09,874 --> 00:13:13,314 Speaker 1: like I don't like to manage my clause you know, 289 00:13:13,394 --> 00:13:15,954 Speaker 1: they should work for me or the other way around. 290 00:13:16,394 --> 00:13:19,354 Speaker 1: But like even just texture, like find a different textures 291 00:13:19,394 --> 00:13:23,594 Speaker 1: find this is quite like a casual element. You know, 292 00:13:23,834 --> 00:13:26,434 Speaker 1: well with a studded bell, it's just kind of fine 293 00:13:26,434 --> 00:13:29,994 Speaker 1: them the anchor piss okay, baggage in slum t shirt, 294 00:13:30,354 --> 00:13:34,634 Speaker 1: you know, crop jaket, studdied bell, it's meximal march in 295 00:13:34,674 --> 00:13:35,474 Speaker 1: your war. 296 00:13:35,474 --> 00:13:36,474 Speaker 3: Draw do something. 297 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:38,634 Speaker 2: So people generally that you come across, you know, have 298 00:13:38,714 --> 00:13:40,354 Speaker 2: they have the great pieces. But it's the putting the 299 00:13:40,394 --> 00:13:42,194 Speaker 2: whole thing together. Is that the hardest part. 300 00:13:42,434 --> 00:13:43,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really the hardest part. 301 00:13:43,954 --> 00:13:46,434 Speaker 1: And then it's the it's the little stale and details 302 00:13:46,474 --> 00:13:48,634 Speaker 1: that people don't really kind of understand. 303 00:13:48,754 --> 00:13:52,354 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's in text different Yeah, part of your 304 00:13:52,394 --> 00:13:54,714 Speaker 2: job is to help people as a stylist. But not 305 00:13:54,754 --> 00:13:57,314 Speaker 2: necessarily shopping, as you said before, which is really refreshing 306 00:13:57,314 --> 00:13:59,874 Speaker 2: because I think people think personal stylists, first thing, I 307 00:13:59,914 --> 00:14:01,354 Speaker 2: have to be really rich, and secondly I have to 308 00:14:01,354 --> 00:14:03,954 Speaker 2: go and buy a lot of stuff. So what do 309 00:14:04,034 --> 00:14:06,594 Speaker 2: you see when you come across a new client. Is 310 00:14:06,594 --> 00:14:09,674 Speaker 2: it that they really, like we said before, just have 311 00:14:09,754 --> 00:14:14,034 Speaker 2: shopped or have their clothes pre existing from a previous life. Duplicates? 312 00:14:14,074 --> 00:14:16,234 Speaker 2: I know, my duplicate problem is that I really love 313 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:19,754 Speaker 2: denim shirts, white T shirts, jeans, and I don't need anymore. 314 00:14:19,754 --> 00:14:22,354 Speaker 2: But I just they talk to me, they say I 315 00:14:22,434 --> 00:14:23,714 Speaker 2: love you, and I say I love you too when 316 00:14:23,754 --> 00:14:25,514 Speaker 2: I take it home, and then it joins an orgy 317 00:14:25,514 --> 00:14:26,634 Speaker 2: with all the other shits. 318 00:14:27,194 --> 00:14:32,994 Speaker 1: So like, is that just me? Duplicates are massive with 319 00:14:33,034 --> 00:14:36,154 Speaker 1: my clients. And you know, before I started my john 320 00:14:36,234 --> 00:14:39,274 Speaker 1: in terms of like minimalism and things like that, duplicates 321 00:14:39,274 --> 00:14:40,114 Speaker 1: were massive for me. 322 00:14:40,154 --> 00:14:43,034 Speaker 3: I think I can do like fifteen pairs of black jeans. 323 00:14:42,794 --> 00:14:45,034 Speaker 2: And I was like, good, okay, but I'm glad that 324 00:14:45,074 --> 00:14:46,594 Speaker 2: it's It's is ridiculous. 325 00:14:46,674 --> 00:14:47,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does happen. 326 00:14:47,674 --> 00:14:50,394 Speaker 1: So that's one thing I say when people when I'm 327 00:14:50,514 --> 00:14:53,074 Speaker 1: editing wardrobe. So when I'm editing my own wardrobe. Look 328 00:14:53,074 --> 00:14:55,914 Speaker 1: at your duplicates. How many black jeans do you actually need? 329 00:14:56,434 --> 00:14:58,834 Speaker 1: You know? And I always say to my clients, like, 330 00:14:58,954 --> 00:15:02,074 Speaker 1: if you were to reach for your favorite black jeans, 331 00:15:02,114 --> 00:15:04,034 Speaker 1: if you were going to I don't know what I'm 332 00:15:04,034 --> 00:15:05,754 Speaker 1: meeting an event You've. 333 00:15:05,634 --> 00:15:07,234 Speaker 2: Added to a black jean party and you have to 334 00:15:07,234 --> 00:15:12,314 Speaker 2: wear your very best or your favorite whatever the item movie. 335 00:15:12,474 --> 00:15:16,714 Speaker 1: Yes, you're your black blazer party. What are you going 336 00:15:16,754 --> 00:15:19,034 Speaker 1: to with black blazer? Are you going to reach for? Yes? 337 00:15:19,274 --> 00:15:22,234 Speaker 1: And great, but it's then why you know, reaching for 338 00:15:22,274 --> 00:15:25,274 Speaker 1: the other one? Yes, you know it could be fabric compossession, 339 00:15:25,594 --> 00:15:27,794 Speaker 1: you know, so it just doesn't feel ray in terms 340 00:15:27,834 --> 00:15:28,754 Speaker 1: of net weird. 341 00:15:28,674 --> 00:15:29,674 Speaker 3: Does it itch you know? 342 00:15:29,874 --> 00:15:32,034 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, I've got so much itchy netwear. 343 00:15:32,074 --> 00:15:34,034 Speaker 2: But it was not cheap, So then I just keep 344 00:15:34,074 --> 00:15:35,914 Speaker 2: it exactly when when I don't get. 345 00:15:35,754 --> 00:15:39,354 Speaker 1: Itchy, yes, yes, well and that for me, I sell, 346 00:15:39,674 --> 00:15:42,834 Speaker 1: I sell, sell, sell, and then I replace, you know, 347 00:15:43,194 --> 00:15:45,714 Speaker 1: with the money that I've made. 348 00:15:45,914 --> 00:15:47,394 Speaker 2: And like, I guess, you know, say back to the 349 00:15:47,394 --> 00:15:49,594 Speaker 2: black jeans. That's your thing or that's someone's things. So 350 00:15:49,634 --> 00:15:52,354 Speaker 2: you can have a couple of bits, but you don't eat. 351 00:15:52,434 --> 00:15:52,634 Speaker 1: Yeah. 352 00:15:52,754 --> 00:15:54,794 Speaker 2: Twenty also that probably is part of the problem. It's 353 00:15:54,794 --> 00:15:56,994 Speaker 2: definitely part of mine, because I just haven't nailed my 354 00:15:57,274 --> 00:16:00,714 Speaker 2: like literal physical storage unless I'm so in love with 355 00:16:00,754 --> 00:16:03,114 Speaker 2: it that it's always on rotation. If I can't say 356 00:16:03,114 --> 00:16:05,354 Speaker 2: that I've got it, I just forget. I have time 357 00:16:05,394 --> 00:16:07,274 Speaker 2: to plan my outfits as much as I use to, 358 00:16:07,474 --> 00:16:09,154 Speaker 2: and so I just go into my wardrobe and I 359 00:16:09,194 --> 00:16:12,074 Speaker 2: go black. Jan's great, there's four pays, But I've got 360 00:16:12,114 --> 00:16:14,674 Speaker 2: another four pays somewhere yea, And they might be a 361 00:16:14,714 --> 00:16:17,154 Speaker 2: really great pay there that I just haven't stored the 362 00:16:17,274 --> 00:16:19,114 Speaker 2: right So do people you know, struggle with that? 363 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:21,994 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's kind of like s out of mind thing, 364 00:16:22,074 --> 00:16:24,834 Speaker 1: isn't it. So I always like your genes. 365 00:16:24,714 --> 00:16:24,914 Speaker 2: You know. 366 00:16:25,034 --> 00:16:27,994 Speaker 1: I will always organize by category, and when I go 367 00:16:28,034 --> 00:16:30,954 Speaker 1: into people's wardrobes as well, that's what we do. We 368 00:16:30,994 --> 00:16:33,074 Speaker 1: do it by categoy, by color. So if you are 369 00:16:33,114 --> 00:16:36,074 Speaker 1: looking for those, I don't know, red trousers, you're going 370 00:16:36,114 --> 00:16:39,514 Speaker 1: to go to the red trouser section, yes, And then 371 00:16:39,714 --> 00:16:42,114 Speaker 1: it is a matter of editing. So when I go 372 00:16:42,154 --> 00:16:44,794 Speaker 1: into people's wardrobes, I know their body shape, I know 373 00:16:44,914 --> 00:16:47,994 Speaker 1: their color with colors suit them color analysis, and then 374 00:16:48,034 --> 00:16:51,554 Speaker 1: I'll go into their wardrobe and we can eliminate anything 375 00:16:51,594 --> 00:16:55,034 Speaker 1: that does not suit their body shape, doesn't suit the coloring, 376 00:16:55,194 --> 00:16:56,674 Speaker 1: if they are comfortable with that. 377 00:16:57,274 --> 00:16:58,874 Speaker 3: And then you know, I. 378 00:16:58,874 --> 00:17:02,874 Speaker 1: Look for is a too much statement pieces and you 379 00:17:02,914 --> 00:17:05,194 Speaker 1: don't have anything to balance it out with? Yes, is 380 00:17:05,234 --> 00:17:08,714 Speaker 1: are too much slouchy and you don't have any structured therefore, 381 00:17:08,874 --> 00:17:12,114 Speaker 1: you know things like that, sis, I guess yea in 382 00:17:12,194 --> 00:17:14,754 Speaker 1: the gaps in the wardbe I also tell them to 383 00:17:14,754 --> 00:17:19,514 Speaker 1: put like her a wheel together of their ten favorite pieces. 384 00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:24,274 Speaker 1: They are most warm pieces. That's your stale. Yes, that's 385 00:17:24,274 --> 00:17:27,914 Speaker 1: your everyday life. Oh wow, that's who you are. You 386 00:17:27,954 --> 00:17:31,674 Speaker 1: could then upgrade it you as an I wheel that 387 00:17:31,834 --> 00:17:32,754 Speaker 1: but there's a hole. 388 00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:34,554 Speaker 2: In it, Yes, okay, find a new one. 389 00:17:34,634 --> 00:17:35,514 Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's. 390 00:17:35,634 --> 00:17:37,994 Speaker 1: Buy into that like some vest in it. Then I 391 00:17:38,074 --> 00:17:40,273 Speaker 1: also get them to maybe pull ten pieces that they 392 00:17:40,354 --> 00:17:42,994 Speaker 1: really struggle with, and then we go through that process. 393 00:17:43,674 --> 00:17:47,714 Speaker 1: It could be colored in, it could be like proportion wise, 394 00:17:47,714 --> 00:17:48,714 Speaker 1: it doesn't work in them. 395 00:17:48,754 --> 00:17:50,434 Speaker 2: You know, it might be worth keeping, but you'll show 396 00:17:50,434 --> 00:17:52,314 Speaker 2: them how to put it with the top or the bottom. 397 00:17:52,394 --> 00:17:54,474 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's the styling thing. Yes, And then that's 398 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:55,954 Speaker 1: when we can come up with different outyeat that it's 399 00:17:55,954 --> 00:17:56,954 Speaker 1: a different formulas. 400 00:17:57,034 --> 00:17:59,234 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like back to the starling thing. I think. 401 00:17:59,474 --> 00:18:01,234 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of friends who obviously don't work 402 00:18:01,234 --> 00:18:03,354 Speaker 2: in its industry, you know, the doctors or lawyers, and yes, 403 00:18:03,634 --> 00:18:05,313 Speaker 2: in their head they go that top goes with that, 404 00:18:05,354 --> 00:18:07,914 Speaker 2: bottom like to like to go that could go with that. 405 00:18:07,994 --> 00:18:09,874 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, but it doesn't like I didn't buy 406 00:18:09,914 --> 00:18:11,554 Speaker 2: them together, or I didn't buy them at the same time, 407 00:18:11,674 --> 00:18:14,634 Speaker 2: I've never thought of Yes, but sometimes almost you know, 408 00:18:15,154 --> 00:18:17,833 Speaker 2: unexpected or wonderful outfits, the things you already own just 409 00:18:17,954 --> 00:18:19,314 Speaker 2: not tried together yet. 410 00:18:19,474 --> 00:18:21,834 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's just really pleased with your wardrobe, but 411 00:18:21,874 --> 00:18:23,754 Speaker 1: it's not having too much on there because then it's 412 00:18:23,754 --> 00:18:24,674 Speaker 1: like going to a restaurant. 413 00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:25,114 Speaker 3: It's too much. 414 00:18:25,394 --> 00:18:26,754 Speaker 2: I got to hate it. 415 00:18:26,754 --> 00:18:29,154 Speaker 3: It's like, just give me. I just stopped five. 416 00:18:29,314 --> 00:18:31,554 Speaker 2: I follow my instinct, and if I don't, I order 417 00:18:31,594 --> 00:18:33,553 Speaker 2: the first thing that you know, caught my eye. Otherwise, 418 00:18:33,594 --> 00:18:35,594 Speaker 2: if I keep looking, then I get regret then. 419 00:18:35,634 --> 00:18:37,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, or you go to the thing that you like, 420 00:18:37,634 --> 00:18:38,954 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Yeah, well I do. 421 00:18:38,994 --> 00:18:41,874 Speaker 2: I go see the solib A chip and I don't. 422 00:18:41,714 --> 00:18:43,474 Speaker 1: Always want that, but I go, Yeah, it's just too 423 00:18:43,554 --> 00:18:46,674 Speaker 1: much confusion. True, it's just too much confusion analogies. 424 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,033 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're helping me with one of your sessions, 425 00:18:50,034 --> 00:18:52,274 Speaker 2: and I pull out five things that I haven't worn 426 00:18:52,314 --> 00:18:55,073 Speaker 2: in a year, but I am hesitant to let go 427 00:18:55,114 --> 00:18:57,914 Speaker 2: of Maybe it's no not maybe that they're expensive. I 428 00:18:57,994 --> 00:18:59,394 Speaker 2: really like them, but I don't know what to do. 429 00:18:59,674 --> 00:19:01,954 Speaker 2: How do you help me there? Before I have to 430 00:19:01,994 --> 00:19:04,313 Speaker 2: sell or donate, not have to. You wouldn't force me, 431 00:19:04,354 --> 00:19:08,514 Speaker 2: but you know, before the donate discussion is rise, Yes, 432 00:19:08,594 --> 00:19:10,234 Speaker 2: what do we do with pieces that we love but 433 00:19:10,354 --> 00:19:11,714 Speaker 2: don't know how to wear? Right? 434 00:19:11,794 --> 00:19:12,074 Speaker 3: Okay? 435 00:19:12,074 --> 00:19:15,834 Speaker 1: So then falsely, we're going to see if proportions, you know. 436 00:19:15,994 --> 00:19:19,034 Speaker 1: So if say it is, I don't know, a red blazer, 437 00:19:19,514 --> 00:19:21,154 Speaker 1: red boxy blazer, you. 438 00:19:21,114 --> 00:19:22,914 Speaker 3: Know, then we're going to look at your wardrobe. 439 00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:25,714 Speaker 1: Maybe those ten items that I've said previously that you 440 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:28,714 Speaker 1: constantly wear. Yes, we can mix and match back with that, 441 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:32,274 Speaker 1: yes you know? So yeah, yeah, So whenever I buy 442 00:19:32,394 --> 00:19:35,474 Speaker 1: like a trend piece, which is very rarely but I 443 00:19:35,594 --> 00:19:38,434 Speaker 1: might do it, I match it back with my basics 444 00:19:38,474 --> 00:19:41,874 Speaker 1: because I'm comfortable in my basics and that trend piece 445 00:19:41,954 --> 00:19:43,794 Speaker 1: might be a bit loud for me, sure, the way 446 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:46,554 Speaker 1: that I can get around it is matching at back 447 00:19:46,594 --> 00:19:47,354 Speaker 1: with my basics. 448 00:19:47,394 --> 00:19:49,474 Speaker 2: So you which makes it then your personal style. 449 00:19:49,674 --> 00:19:52,114 Speaker 1: Yes, and it makes it more comfortable. It's like it's 450 00:19:52,114 --> 00:19:53,954 Speaker 1: not as loud as you know, it doesn'y have. You 451 00:19:53,954 --> 00:19:55,874 Speaker 1: don't have to have five trend pieces on it the 452 00:19:55,914 --> 00:19:58,594 Speaker 1: same time. It could just be one standout piece. That's 453 00:19:58,594 --> 00:20:02,354 Speaker 1: why I always say to my clients, choose one standout piece. 454 00:20:02,354 --> 00:20:06,594 Speaker 1: So this real normally typically is standout pieces that they 455 00:20:06,634 --> 00:20:11,154 Speaker 1: don't know how to stay all right, So much about 456 00:20:11,194 --> 00:20:14,034 Speaker 1: with your basics, make sure that you're getting those proportions right. 457 00:20:14,114 --> 00:20:17,634 Speaker 1: If it's slouchy, much about with something kind of like slim, 458 00:20:17,674 --> 00:20:20,794 Speaker 1: if it's structured, makes it back with something you know. 459 00:20:21,434 --> 00:20:24,634 Speaker 2: Structured, Yes, kind of like the opposite in a way. Yeah, yes. 460 00:20:24,914 --> 00:20:26,553 Speaker 2: And so that's if it's you know, it's still in 461 00:20:26,594 --> 00:20:28,514 Speaker 2: good condition and it fits them. If it's something that's 462 00:20:28,594 --> 00:20:30,594 Speaker 2: just you know, I'm going to get that thin again 463 00:20:30,714 --> 00:20:33,513 Speaker 2: or whatever, I think that's just taken out of the 464 00:20:33,514 --> 00:20:36,914 Speaker 2: equation because otherwise having the confusion. Also, I think sometimes 465 00:20:36,954 --> 00:20:39,033 Speaker 2: there's guilt there for the cost of the item or 466 00:20:39,034 --> 00:20:40,714 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, or that you're not who you 467 00:20:40,754 --> 00:20:43,514 Speaker 2: were before, and that stuff's just never going to get warm. 468 00:20:43,594 --> 00:20:44,514 Speaker 3: It's never going to get warm. 469 00:20:44,514 --> 00:20:47,714 Speaker 1: And if you're deep down, a lot of people know 470 00:20:47,954 --> 00:20:49,914 Speaker 1: deep down whether they're going to weit it or not, 471 00:20:50,074 --> 00:20:52,114 Speaker 1: it's how it makes you feel as well. Yes, Like 472 00:20:52,194 --> 00:20:54,154 Speaker 1: for me, I've got to feel comfortable and I'm going 473 00:20:54,194 --> 00:20:57,754 Speaker 1: to feel confident if it's like for instance, I had 474 00:20:57,754 --> 00:20:59,834 Speaker 1: a kind of a Scott I love Medy Scott's, but 475 00:20:59,874 --> 00:21:03,273 Speaker 1: it was a bit like structured at the way spinned. Therefore, 476 00:21:03,474 --> 00:21:06,073 Speaker 1: I was a bit conscious of my tommy now standing 477 00:21:06,114 --> 00:21:06,914 Speaker 1: in front of the mirror. 478 00:21:07,114 --> 00:21:08,194 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, it looks good. 479 00:21:08,274 --> 00:21:10,513 Speaker 1: But when you're out every day life and you. 480 00:21:10,594 --> 00:21:13,553 Speaker 2: Eat get half the time. I get in the car 481 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:17,074 Speaker 2: and I'm wearing this all day. 482 00:21:17,154 --> 00:21:20,594 Speaker 1: And then you're just constantly like adjusting, and you know, 483 00:21:20,714 --> 00:21:22,634 Speaker 1: my bag was always in front of my tommy and 484 00:21:22,634 --> 00:21:23,513 Speaker 1: I that's it. 485 00:21:23,594 --> 00:21:26,354 Speaker 3: There's no more of that. But then maybe get stuff 486 00:21:26,394 --> 00:21:30,074 Speaker 3: all to like I'm constantly it. 487 00:21:30,314 --> 00:21:33,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, or even like I have a dress and I'm like, 488 00:21:33,954 --> 00:21:36,074 Speaker 1: I'm never going to wear that dress because it's quite 489 00:21:36,074 --> 00:21:39,514 Speaker 1: strappy and I have larger boobs I need, Brad, That's 490 00:21:39,554 --> 00:21:40,594 Speaker 1: why did I buy that dress? 491 00:21:40,594 --> 00:21:41,314 Speaker 3: In the first place. 492 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:44,274 Speaker 1: However, it would look amazing as a scar you know, yeah, 493 00:21:44,354 --> 00:21:47,513 Speaker 1: you know, get I look at shop it off, like 494 00:21:47,794 --> 00:21:50,354 Speaker 1: those trousers that are so long, but you like the 495 00:21:50,394 --> 00:21:53,394 Speaker 1: shape of them, you know, chop them off, you get 496 00:21:53,394 --> 00:21:54,754 Speaker 1: an old pair of trousers. 497 00:21:54,794 --> 00:21:56,674 Speaker 3: Can you put them into a long shot? You know, 498 00:21:56,794 --> 00:21:58,474 Speaker 3: things like that? My god, I can. 499 00:21:58,554 --> 00:22:01,154 Speaker 2: I've got some wide like pants that I have never 500 00:22:01,234 --> 00:22:03,474 Speaker 2: decided on a link, so they're not good for flats, 501 00:22:03,474 --> 00:22:05,274 Speaker 2: they're not good for heels, but oh my god. 502 00:22:05,474 --> 00:22:07,874 Speaker 1: And then if it's like right, no, it's a no, 503 00:22:08,154 --> 00:22:10,154 Speaker 1: just give it to somebody else. They'll love it, yes, 504 00:22:10,234 --> 00:22:12,874 Speaker 1: you know. And then with the money potches something. 505 00:22:13,034 --> 00:22:14,994 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you may get about it once it's gone 506 00:22:14,994 --> 00:22:16,714 Speaker 2: to get things. I got all that jacket, was really 507 00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:18,754 Speaker 2: expensed about wear it this winter, and then I say 508 00:22:18,794 --> 00:22:21,154 Speaker 2: it later and I go oh oo's maybe next winter. 509 00:22:21,314 --> 00:22:23,274 Speaker 2: But I'm letting the guilt. 510 00:22:23,234 --> 00:22:26,754 Speaker 1: Override the relief of moving it on. Yes, it's kind 511 00:22:26,794 --> 00:22:28,474 Speaker 1: of like when we spend money, we don't think about 512 00:22:28,474 --> 00:22:29,194 Speaker 1: it again, do it? 513 00:22:29,314 --> 00:22:32,474 Speaker 2: No, Well, I see it in my wardrobe exactly if 514 00:22:32,674 --> 00:22:35,114 Speaker 2: I will wear you even if you were wrong, Yeah, 515 00:22:35,474 --> 00:22:35,794 Speaker 2: just gip. 516 00:22:35,954 --> 00:22:39,114 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it takes a whale. It really does 517 00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:41,594 Speaker 1: take a while to get into that kind of mindset. 518 00:22:41,914 --> 00:22:45,354 Speaker 1: I mean, i've I think as it's probably I started 519 00:22:45,354 --> 00:22:47,714 Speaker 1: it when my daughter was just born at seven. 520 00:22:47,794 --> 00:22:49,394 Speaker 3: That's when I kind of created seven. 521 00:22:49,714 --> 00:22:51,234 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my son's about twenty seven. 522 00:22:51,274 --> 00:22:55,394 Speaker 1: Okay, I could do this. It's gone on seventeen yeers. 523 00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:58,154 Speaker 1: But I was like, very okay. So that's when I 524 00:22:58,234 --> 00:23:01,714 Speaker 1: really struck my wardrobe back looked at those items that 525 00:23:01,794 --> 00:23:04,594 Speaker 1: I was you know, I would create MIoD balls. 526 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,874 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be like, oh, there's the common denominate. 527 00:23:06,914 --> 00:23:08,234 Speaker 1: And I do love a black gin, I love a 528 00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:10,634 Speaker 1: whak t shirt, and love a blizzer. Look at them 529 00:23:10,874 --> 00:23:14,313 Speaker 1: and then it's then just cand allow on them from 530 00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:15,434 Speaker 1: your mistake. 531 00:23:15,234 --> 00:23:17,434 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and taking a beat. I've got to learn 532 00:23:17,434 --> 00:23:18,594 Speaker 2: to take a beat. And I think a lot of 533 00:23:18,594 --> 00:23:21,074 Speaker 2: people do because you just like I was saying to 534 00:23:21,074 --> 00:23:23,074 Speaker 2: you off air, I love thrifting, but that's not whole 535 00:23:23,154 --> 00:23:25,194 Speaker 2: nother problem. You know, sure it's not fast fashion, or 536 00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:27,273 Speaker 2: it might be first fashion, it's second time round. But 537 00:23:27,394 --> 00:23:29,594 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's an amazing damn shirt. Oh my god, 538 00:23:29,594 --> 00:23:31,114 Speaker 2: the price, Oh my god, it's in such a good condition. 539 00:23:31,154 --> 00:23:32,954 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I can't leave it. It feels like 540 00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:35,634 Speaker 2: a little orphan shirt that I know, and I think 541 00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:36,994 Speaker 2: they don't need another one. 542 00:23:37,074 --> 00:23:39,674 Speaker 3: Yes, and I think it's just like now or ever. 543 00:23:40,034 --> 00:23:43,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the whole pre loved is absolutely amazing 544 00:23:43,434 --> 00:23:46,474 Speaker 1: if you're looking for something, yes, you desperately need, like 545 00:23:46,554 --> 00:23:49,114 Speaker 1: you love it for like Dizina harmbugs and Diziner shoes 546 00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:49,634 Speaker 1: and things. 547 00:23:49,434 --> 00:23:51,793 Speaker 2: But more intentional than just popping into your Viney's and 548 00:23:51,794 --> 00:23:54,634 Speaker 2: seeing an amazing thing, but you don't really need it. Yeah. 549 00:23:54,914 --> 00:23:57,234 Speaker 3: Is it just again? Is it just their impulse? Is 550 00:23:57,274 --> 00:23:57,714 Speaker 3: it there is? 551 00:23:57,994 --> 00:24:00,514 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just the best thing in Vinie's, but it's 552 00:24:00,554 --> 00:24:03,234 Speaker 2: not the thing that you would buy, well exactly. 553 00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:06,033 Speaker 1: It's like, just because it's pre loved doesn't mean to 554 00:24:06,074 --> 00:24:07,114 Speaker 1: say that we are. 555 00:24:07,394 --> 00:24:09,754 Speaker 2: Needed and let someone else love it pre loved. 556 00:24:09,954 --> 00:24:11,434 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so true. 557 00:24:11,434 --> 00:24:12,994 Speaker 1: Are you actually going to wear it? Or it is 558 00:24:13,274 --> 00:24:16,794 Speaker 1: just it's pretty lot just another fast fashion Yeah. 559 00:24:16,674 --> 00:24:20,314 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're so right. Okay, so not everyone 560 00:24:20,514 --> 00:24:22,313 Speaker 2: can have a U Well they can't actually, but you 561 00:24:22,314 --> 00:24:24,674 Speaker 2: know a lot of people after listening to this podcast 562 00:24:24,674 --> 00:24:27,514 Speaker 2: are sometimes inspired to shop, but we're not doing that now, 563 00:24:27,634 --> 00:24:30,194 Speaker 2: but to go into the wardrobe and go right, what 564 00:24:30,434 --> 00:24:33,273 Speaker 2: is my problem? You know, maybe we've identified it is 565 00:24:33,314 --> 00:24:35,794 Speaker 2: impulse purchase or whatever, but we've got what we've got 566 00:24:35,834 --> 00:24:37,354 Speaker 2: in front of us that we're not wearing at all. 567 00:24:37,794 --> 00:24:41,234 Speaker 2: What can someone do this weekend or you know, in 568 00:24:41,274 --> 00:24:44,434 Speaker 2: the next few weeks days to start this process. Is 569 00:24:44,434 --> 00:24:46,273 Speaker 2: it literally putting in your raar on your unknees and 570 00:24:46,314 --> 00:24:48,634 Speaker 2: having a dress on session. Is it like playing dress 571 00:24:48,674 --> 00:24:49,273 Speaker 2: ups but you're. 572 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,274 Speaker 1: The doult Yeah. Yeah, it's basically getting into your wardrobe. 573 00:24:52,354 --> 00:24:53,874 Speaker 1: I always I teach a lot of this on my 574 00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:55,033 Speaker 1: Instagram occane I. 575 00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:57,514 Speaker 2: Love obsessed with your Instagram. I think here's the best 576 00:24:57,514 --> 00:24:58,594 Speaker 2: deeps I've ever But. 577 00:24:58,794 --> 00:25:02,394 Speaker 1: I when I started dusk John there, I got my 578 00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:03,154 Speaker 1: whole wardrobe. 579 00:25:03,314 --> 00:25:06,114 Speaker 3: I did a massive air and I was ruthless. 580 00:25:06,234 --> 00:25:08,914 Speaker 2: And did you try the the maybees? Did you try everything? 581 00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:09,234 Speaker 1: Yes? 582 00:25:09,434 --> 00:25:10,594 Speaker 3: You know what you love? 583 00:25:10,794 --> 00:25:10,954 Speaker 2: Yes? 584 00:25:11,034 --> 00:25:12,954 Speaker 3: So you know what you love? That's fine. 585 00:25:13,034 --> 00:25:14,273 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if it's just come out of the wash, 586 00:25:14,314 --> 00:25:16,114 Speaker 2: it's probably likely that you love it and you wear. 587 00:25:15,954 --> 00:25:20,794 Speaker 1: It, yes, exactly. Yeah, you know what you don't definitely? Yeah, definitely, 588 00:25:20,794 --> 00:25:23,154 Speaker 1: you know what you don't like. It's probably the maybe's 589 00:25:23,234 --> 00:25:25,434 Speaker 1: that you have to can get so stuck on the 590 00:25:25,834 --> 00:25:28,434 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, and then so I would maybe just 591 00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:31,793 Speaker 1: concentrate on the maybe and then what you don't like 592 00:25:31,994 --> 00:25:34,553 Speaker 1: you can sell, you can get read, give it to friends, 593 00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,354 Speaker 1: have a swap shop party. 594 00:25:36,594 --> 00:25:39,154 Speaker 2: You've done that here is so good, doesn't it. 595 00:25:39,314 --> 00:25:39,874 Speaker 3: We've got one. 596 00:25:40,354 --> 00:25:42,354 Speaker 1: All the moms have got one scheduled soon as well, 597 00:25:42,434 --> 00:25:44,354 Speaker 1: so we're going to do that, so that you it's 598 00:25:44,434 --> 00:25:49,714 Speaker 1: just that getting that excitement, but shopping changing yeah yeah, 599 00:25:49,994 --> 00:25:53,234 Speaker 1: so but then it's probably the maybe's that you need 600 00:25:53,274 --> 00:25:55,554 Speaker 1: to then phil Yeah. 601 00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:58,514 Speaker 3: Physically physically I hate it as well. 602 00:25:58,514 --> 00:26:01,154 Speaker 1: Oh good, okay, but I don't necessarily like it. 603 00:26:01,274 --> 00:26:02,074 Speaker 3: I really don't. 604 00:26:02,314 --> 00:26:04,313 Speaker 1: But it's something like if you haven't water in the 605 00:26:04,394 --> 00:26:07,594 Speaker 1: last year, like are you realize to click? 606 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,434 Speaker 3: And like are you going to wear that? 607 00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:11,674 Speaker 2: Because you know when you have less time? Is that 608 00:26:11,714 --> 00:26:13,154 Speaker 2: morning when you want to wear it? But you think, 609 00:26:13,194 --> 00:26:14,513 Speaker 2: I've got to get out and those kids are late 610 00:26:14,514 --> 00:26:15,634 Speaker 2: for school, I've got to get it. You're not going 611 00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:17,794 Speaker 2: to then try and try it on, so you think 612 00:26:17,914 --> 00:26:19,474 Speaker 2: later but lady never come. 613 00:26:19,714 --> 00:26:23,313 Speaker 1: Yeah. So what I would do is I would like 614 00:26:23,474 --> 00:26:26,034 Speaker 1: really devise my clients to be like, wait, okay, that 615 00:26:26,154 --> 00:26:29,273 Speaker 1: is your maybe, pay and put it in your wardrobe 616 00:26:29,954 --> 00:26:32,994 Speaker 1: with the hunger face and you yes, I've heard of this, 617 00:26:33,274 --> 00:26:35,754 Speaker 1: and then if you wear it, put it the other 618 00:26:35,834 --> 00:26:38,794 Speaker 1: way and then you're weirding it, you know. So yeah, 619 00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:41,434 Speaker 1: you know that's a agree And at the end. 620 00:26:41,314 --> 00:26:44,074 Speaker 3: Of maybe give yourself like a month. If you've not. 621 00:26:44,274 --> 00:26:48,354 Speaker 1: Worn it yet, yeah, then it's late great, Okay. Why 622 00:26:48,634 --> 00:26:51,114 Speaker 1: I also see to clients as late bait. Just really 623 00:26:51,154 --> 00:26:53,634 Speaker 1: concentrate on what you are weird in day to day. Yeah, 624 00:26:53,674 --> 00:26:55,914 Speaker 1: and if you've feigned you know what you love. If 625 00:26:55,954 --> 00:26:59,034 Speaker 1: you've had the best day and this dress, they're absolutely fantastic. 626 00:26:59,074 --> 00:27:00,954 Speaker 2: Yeah. I were a dress yesterday that was very dressed 627 00:27:01,034 --> 00:27:02,474 Speaker 2: up for me to go to the doctors and I 628 00:27:02,514 --> 00:27:04,834 Speaker 2: was working from home. My husband, oh you look nice. 629 00:27:04,994 --> 00:27:06,554 Speaker 2: And then I just felt so good all day because 630 00:27:06,554 --> 00:27:08,553 Speaker 2: I finally will something that wasn't it And I was 631 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:11,194 Speaker 2: like yeah, and that was in my Maybie part. 632 00:27:11,234 --> 00:27:12,914 Speaker 1: It was my baby test for the day. 633 00:27:12,994 --> 00:27:14,314 Speaker 3: Amazing, like test it. 634 00:27:14,354 --> 00:27:17,513 Speaker 1: But then you also know what doesn't work. So if 635 00:27:17,554 --> 00:27:21,154 Speaker 1: you wear something and you're like, note that down, what 636 00:27:21,274 --> 00:27:23,313 Speaker 1: you don't Why you didn't like it? Why was it 637 00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:25,434 Speaker 1: too tight? And you taught me, so you're constantly like 638 00:27:25,474 --> 00:27:27,994 Speaker 1: pulling things down like not that. I always say to 639 00:27:28,034 --> 00:27:30,514 Speaker 1: my clients, you know what you love? That's easy. Yeah, 640 00:27:30,594 --> 00:27:33,954 Speaker 1: it's what it's like the things that you're wearing all day. 641 00:27:34,074 --> 00:27:35,994 Speaker 1: And then you're like, I just didn't feel right and 642 00:27:36,034 --> 00:27:40,353 Speaker 1: that then analyze that outfit, analyze that pace rather than 643 00:27:40,394 --> 00:27:43,273 Speaker 1: analyzing the things. Yeah, and you know, we put the 644 00:27:43,354 --> 00:27:45,194 Speaker 1: money towards something amazing. 645 00:27:45,274 --> 00:27:47,754 Speaker 3: I'll just hamdbag. I always say that. 646 00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:51,194 Speaker 1: And then the more that you you really want to 647 00:27:51,194 --> 00:27:53,634 Speaker 1: see those those ten pieces that I've said put on 648 00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:55,834 Speaker 1: a rail, they need to be at the forefront of 649 00:27:55,874 --> 00:27:57,954 Speaker 1: your wardrobe so that you're wearing them all the time, 650 00:27:58,714 --> 00:28:02,554 Speaker 1: and then you will eventually have a wardrobe that you. 651 00:28:02,754 --> 00:28:05,553 Speaker 2: Love and kind of go together. 652 00:28:05,754 --> 00:28:08,114 Speaker 1: And I also say it's like, do not let anybody 653 00:28:08,154 --> 00:28:10,994 Speaker 1: in that wardrobe that you know, like a party or 654 00:28:11,034 --> 00:28:13,273 Speaker 1: leave your wedding. You're not going to invade everybody to 655 00:28:13,314 --> 00:28:13,954 Speaker 1: this occasion. 656 00:28:14,794 --> 00:28:17,234 Speaker 2: Yes, you have to be like a strict door policy 657 00:28:17,314 --> 00:28:17,554 Speaker 2: for the. 658 00:28:20,914 --> 00:28:23,234 Speaker 1: I have a bone set at my wardrobe door all 659 00:28:23,274 --> 00:28:23,634 Speaker 1: the time. 660 00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:24,754 Speaker 3: You're not getting. 661 00:28:24,434 --> 00:28:27,314 Speaker 1: Any here, and I don't like down, I need. 662 00:28:28,954 --> 00:28:29,634 Speaker 3: Bait crush. 663 00:28:30,074 --> 00:28:32,834 Speaker 2: I'm really try. I've gotten better slowly, but I just 664 00:28:32,874 --> 00:28:34,994 Speaker 2: am so impatient that I want myself to be like you. 665 00:28:35,074 --> 00:28:36,754 Speaker 2: But is it sometimes the process. 666 00:28:36,394 --> 00:28:39,274 Speaker 1: You can't rush seven years I'm still at it, yeah, 667 00:28:39,354 --> 00:28:42,034 Speaker 1: seven yeals. And I went into Zara just before this, 668 00:28:42,714 --> 00:28:44,874 Speaker 1: and I never really shore up in Zara, but I 669 00:28:44,914 --> 00:28:46,874 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just going to have a look kind 670 00:28:46,874 --> 00:28:49,394 Speaker 1: of thing, fast thing. I've seen cigarette jeans. I need 671 00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:51,714 Speaker 1: a pit of cigarette jeans. Tried them on in the 672 00:28:51,794 --> 00:28:55,314 Speaker 1: dressing room and it was like there were too long, 673 00:28:55,354 --> 00:28:56,834 Speaker 1: the one set and just perfect. 674 00:28:56,994 --> 00:28:59,234 Speaker 3: There were a med rise. Yes, I don't go on 675 00:28:59,394 --> 00:29:00,314 Speaker 3: with med rises. 676 00:29:00,394 --> 00:29:02,474 Speaker 1: I was like, could I just wait a longer time 677 00:29:02,834 --> 00:29:05,714 Speaker 1: and you kind of stop persuading yourself? You do? 678 00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:06,554 Speaker 3: You really do? 679 00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:08,474 Speaker 2: And I was like, there's an element you like, but 680 00:29:08,554 --> 00:29:10,994 Speaker 2: I bet if I love the wash yep. 681 00:29:10,914 --> 00:29:11,474 Speaker 3: I love this. 682 00:29:11,714 --> 00:29:14,994 Speaker 1: I love the slam Street cigarette and stale, but the 683 00:29:15,194 --> 00:29:17,714 Speaker 1: rise and the length just on the raid. But maybe 684 00:29:17,834 --> 00:29:19,994 Speaker 1: seven years ago I would have just went, I'm going 685 00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:20,474 Speaker 1: to make it. 686 00:29:20,514 --> 00:29:23,274 Speaker 2: Why I would, yes, especially if it was on sale. 687 00:29:23,474 --> 00:29:26,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just have to see to myself realistatelys 688 00:29:26,554 --> 00:29:28,074 Speaker 1: like are you going to wield that. 689 00:29:28,594 --> 00:29:30,434 Speaker 3: You're not You're going to be You're going. 690 00:29:30,434 --> 00:29:33,274 Speaker 2: To hit your mind, You'll never wear it, and then 691 00:29:34,194 --> 00:29:35,994 Speaker 2: so now you know, maybe you're on the lookout for 692 00:29:36,114 --> 00:29:52,274 Speaker 2: the right pair. It's very expensive, how wondre these percent 693 00:29:53,074 --> 00:29:55,314 Speaker 2: Let's finish with boushie and budget, which is a bit 694 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:57,954 Speaker 2: of a tricky one because we're talking about not shopping. However, 695 00:29:57,994 --> 00:30:01,794 Speaker 2: we're going to justify why these items are so important 696 00:30:01,794 --> 00:30:03,754 Speaker 2: in our wardrobe, and that kind of bring everything together. 697 00:30:04,514 --> 00:30:06,434 Speaker 2: I have a jacket, You have a jacket. Yours is 698 00:30:06,474 --> 00:30:08,354 Speaker 2: your budget. So let's start with your jacket. 699 00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:11,354 Speaker 3: Then my jacket here is from Assembly Label. 700 00:30:11,794 --> 00:30:12,514 Speaker 2: Assembly Label. 701 00:30:12,554 --> 00:30:14,914 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just like discovered it a few 702 00:30:14,954 --> 00:30:17,634 Speaker 1: months ago, just arriving here, and I absolutely love it. 703 00:30:18,074 --> 00:30:21,794 Speaker 1: But it's a bomber. Bombers are really key. It's kind 704 00:30:21,794 --> 00:30:25,114 Speaker 1: of like that trench fabe color. Yeah, so it kind 705 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:26,034 Speaker 1: of feels classic. 706 00:30:26,274 --> 00:30:28,834 Speaker 2: You call that, like a beigea trench. Everyone knows the 707 00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:29,394 Speaker 2: beige trench. 708 00:30:29,674 --> 00:30:33,154 Speaker 3: Yeah kay, it just depends. I think, yeah you are, 709 00:30:33,274 --> 00:30:34,874 Speaker 3: but yeah, beige. 710 00:30:35,314 --> 00:30:38,434 Speaker 1: But yeah, And it's got silver hardware, which I absolutely love. 711 00:30:38,554 --> 00:30:42,714 Speaker 1: Is adjustable, oh yeah, elastic, So you can wear it 712 00:30:42,794 --> 00:30:46,354 Speaker 1: kind of like as a little short trench, or you. 713 00:30:46,274 --> 00:30:47,154 Speaker 3: Can wear it as a bomber. 714 00:30:47,194 --> 00:30:49,514 Speaker 1: Yes, you can kind of pull in the side a 715 00:30:49,554 --> 00:30:50,514 Speaker 1: bit of a barn jacket. 716 00:30:51,114 --> 00:30:51,314 Speaker 2: Yeah. 717 00:30:51,314 --> 00:30:53,594 Speaker 1: It has a double zapp because I often like to 718 00:30:54,234 --> 00:30:55,834 Speaker 1: zapp it all the way up and then have there 719 00:30:56,314 --> 00:30:58,714 Speaker 1: to show my waist to a long gear my legs because. 720 00:30:58,514 --> 00:31:01,754 Speaker 2: I'm like too in one will sort of. It's very yes, 721 00:31:01,794 --> 00:31:05,114 Speaker 2: and although it's a casual jacket, it's still like says 722 00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:06,874 Speaker 2: you put in effort. I don't know, you know, it's yeah, 723 00:31:07,114 --> 00:31:10,794 Speaker 2: I have alled up card again, which I end up wearing. Okay, well, 724 00:31:10,794 --> 00:31:14,954 Speaker 2: my bougie is a jacket. It was expensive I paid 725 00:31:14,954 --> 00:31:16,754 Speaker 2: too much for However, I love it and I have 726 00:31:16,794 --> 00:31:19,994 Speaker 2: to explain why social media did get me. It's the 727 00:31:19,994 --> 00:31:22,514 Speaker 2: brand's god future. Sure I think she's an Oh yeah, 728 00:31:22,554 --> 00:31:23,794 Speaker 2: she's she's you're kid. 729 00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:26,394 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god, Amy. 730 00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:26,714 Speaker 2: Okay, Amy. 731 00:31:26,754 --> 00:31:28,114 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I love Amy. 732 00:31:28,234 --> 00:31:30,274 Speaker 2: So she has mastered marketing because you have to go 733 00:31:30,274 --> 00:31:30,754 Speaker 2: on a wait. 734 00:31:30,634 --> 00:31:34,674 Speaker 1: List and they limits. She's just just one mon bund 735 00:31:34,834 --> 00:31:37,114 Speaker 1: you know. Well obviously she gets that's what I thought. 736 00:31:37,114 --> 00:31:39,754 Speaker 2: She's a small business. So a bit of context about me, Sam, 737 00:31:39,754 --> 00:31:42,874 Speaker 2: because you need to Australia. I am incredibly forgetful. If 738 00:31:42,874 --> 00:31:44,794 Speaker 2: I don't lose my security pass twice a day that's 739 00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:47,354 Speaker 2: a good day. I lose everything. I drop everything, and 740 00:31:47,394 --> 00:31:49,074 Speaker 2: you can't always have a handbag. And then if I've 741 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:51,554 Speaker 2: bought an outfit on my outfie doesn't have pockets, oh nate. 742 00:31:51,834 --> 00:31:53,674 Speaker 2: And then sometimes your phone will pull down your skirt 743 00:31:53,754 --> 00:31:56,354 Speaker 2: if you know, it's just not good. My son also 744 00:31:56,394 --> 00:31:58,594 Speaker 2: lives We literally live outside. You jump out of our 745 00:31:58,634 --> 00:32:01,634 Speaker 2: house crossing school. So sometimes I'm in my pajamas, like 746 00:32:01,714 --> 00:32:04,834 Speaker 2: literal pajamas when I drop him. And the reality of 747 00:32:04,834 --> 00:32:06,274 Speaker 2: my life is I look nice two days a week 748 00:32:06,274 --> 00:32:08,474 Speaker 2: and then I look like I just got out of bed. 749 00:32:08,674 --> 00:32:10,914 Speaker 2: So this jacket came out. It's the art and coat. 750 00:32:10,954 --> 00:32:13,434 Speaker 2: You probably know it, know it, and I watched it 751 00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:14,914 Speaker 2: and then I watched one drop cell out and I 752 00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:18,234 Speaker 2: was like, shit, it's got so many pockets. Now I'm 753 00:32:18,234 --> 00:32:20,834 Speaker 2: sitting in my jacket. If you hear my swishness in 754 00:32:20,914 --> 00:32:24,114 Speaker 2: winter or just tran seasonally, I'm a trench or a 755 00:32:24,154 --> 00:32:26,554 Speaker 2: bomber or just something that lives on the front at 756 00:32:26,594 --> 00:32:28,914 Speaker 2: the front door of the thing. But then I'm like, oh, 757 00:32:28,994 --> 00:32:30,634 Speaker 2: my keys, because I don't take my handbag. Just gool 758 00:32:30,674 --> 00:32:33,234 Speaker 2: drop off all no whatever, that's such a good skill. 759 00:32:33,354 --> 00:32:34,634 Speaker 3: Drop off isn't it great? 760 00:32:34,674 --> 00:32:37,594 Speaker 2: And sometimes I literally wear my pajamas and just chuck 761 00:32:37,634 --> 00:32:40,794 Speaker 2: on my berks. So the brand has got fusture shore 762 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,954 Speaker 2: and she's British. There you go, and it's called the 763 00:32:43,034 --> 00:32:44,954 Speaker 2: Art and Coat in Canvas. You're right. I think they 764 00:32:44,994 --> 00:32:48,674 Speaker 2: did it red recently. It's very expensive once you get 765 00:32:48,714 --> 00:32:51,314 Speaker 2: it in aud so it's four hundred and seventy nine 766 00:32:51,394 --> 00:32:54,554 Speaker 2: dollars plus shipping. I would not have paid that much. 767 00:32:54,674 --> 00:32:57,834 Speaker 2: Could I find anything similar? I have a Unigo one 768 00:32:57,834 --> 00:32:59,274 Speaker 2: that I wanted it to be this from a few 769 00:32:59,354 --> 00:33:01,074 Speaker 2: years ago that I bought in large but still not 770 00:33:01,114 --> 00:33:04,514 Speaker 2: oversized enough, not enough pockets. This pocket has zips because 771 00:33:04,554 --> 00:33:06,594 Speaker 2: also you've got a child. Sometimes they give. 772 00:33:06,434 --> 00:33:11,434 Speaker 1: You stick some lots you're not allowed to put them down, you. 773 00:33:11,354 --> 00:33:14,474 Speaker 2: Know, So this I can literally just obviously were I 774 00:33:14,514 --> 00:33:15,154 Speaker 2: of active wet? 775 00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:18,994 Speaker 1: I feel like because you're refiring back to your everyday life, 776 00:33:19,114 --> 00:33:20,794 Speaker 1: you're going to get so much wear from it. 777 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,794 Speaker 2: All right, Well, then your bougie is a belt, and 778 00:33:22,794 --> 00:33:23,834 Speaker 2: my budget is a belt. 779 00:33:24,274 --> 00:33:27,274 Speaker 1: Convenient that belt, so my belts. 780 00:33:27,314 --> 00:33:29,234 Speaker 3: I love a belt. I'm petty. 781 00:33:29,754 --> 00:33:33,594 Speaker 1: I have to elongate my waist and my legs and 782 00:33:33,834 --> 00:33:36,114 Speaker 1: I need to make that hour glass silhouette. 783 00:33:36,434 --> 00:33:38,394 Speaker 3: Adding a belt is perfect for me. 784 00:33:38,874 --> 00:33:43,034 Speaker 1: So I invested in this Kate Bell actually about two 785 00:33:43,114 --> 00:33:43,754 Speaker 1: years ago. 786 00:33:44,394 --> 00:33:48,114 Speaker 2: Beautiful Kate k h A I t A, yeah, yes. 787 00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:48,994 Speaker 3: I love it. 788 00:33:49,354 --> 00:33:51,834 Speaker 1: So I invested in this about two years ago. And 789 00:33:51,874 --> 00:33:52,794 Speaker 1: I weigh all the time. 790 00:33:52,834 --> 00:33:53,274 Speaker 3: So it just. 791 00:33:53,234 --> 00:33:55,834 Speaker 1: Shows you if it were the coostperware, But it just 792 00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:58,594 Speaker 1: shows you if you are going to spend anything quite 793 00:33:58,674 --> 00:34:02,914 Speaker 1: bougie a mound then you know, but you love it 794 00:34:02,954 --> 00:34:05,954 Speaker 1: and you wear all the time and it's your personality. 795 00:34:06,234 --> 00:34:07,914 Speaker 3: Yeah does for me? 796 00:34:07,994 --> 00:34:11,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, it saw It's so true. I had some belts 797 00:34:11,754 --> 00:34:14,034 Speaker 2: that I was just like, oh, you're supposed to own belts, 798 00:34:14,034 --> 00:34:17,194 Speaker 2: And then I was telling you before I thrifted, which 799 00:34:17,314 --> 00:34:19,873 Speaker 2: was never happens. It was thrifting Christmas. I found a 800 00:34:19,914 --> 00:34:23,474 Speaker 2: Selene belt that was ridiculously cheap and for someone with 801 00:34:23,514 --> 00:34:25,554 Speaker 2: ADHD who goes to the bucking way too much, it's 802 00:34:25,594 --> 00:34:28,433 Speaker 2: just it slides in. It has a it has a 803 00:34:28,474 --> 00:34:30,154 Speaker 2: little hole, I guess, but you don't have to do 804 00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:31,913 Speaker 2: the whole buckle. It just kind of pops in. Oh wow, 805 00:34:32,434 --> 00:34:36,554 Speaker 2: great functional love. It has changed my entire wardrobe. Now 806 00:34:36,594 --> 00:34:38,554 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go out and buy the Selene one. Although however, 807 00:34:38,674 --> 00:34:40,953 Speaker 2: Cosper where you know, I could have justified that. 808 00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:43,314 Speaker 1: I feel somebody who buils belts all the team correct. 809 00:34:43,074 --> 00:34:45,433 Speaker 2: And now I've become that person, and my outfits look 810 00:34:45,434 --> 00:34:48,714 Speaker 2: immediately more polished. But then I thought, well, I need 811 00:34:48,714 --> 00:34:50,514 Speaker 2: more belts, don't I? So I bought a couple of 812 00:34:50,514 --> 00:34:53,634 Speaker 2: more belts, not real leather. They it's just a belt 813 00:34:53,634 --> 00:34:56,434 Speaker 2: goes through too much for it to not be good quality. 814 00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:58,674 Speaker 2: So that's kind of plastic leather just breaks and oh 815 00:34:58,714 --> 00:35:01,474 Speaker 2: my god, yeah, it's terrible. So Suzanne have just launched 816 00:35:01,514 --> 00:35:04,194 Speaker 2: it the Suzanne Everyday Leather Belt, real leather thirty nine 817 00:35:04,314 --> 00:35:08,234 Speaker 2: ninety five, amazing medium sort of with plain as buckle, 818 00:35:08,634 --> 00:35:11,114 Speaker 2: and it will last you forever because it's lever. And 819 00:35:11,194 --> 00:35:12,914 Speaker 2: so I think, if you know, you don't want to splurge, 820 00:35:12,914 --> 00:35:14,954 Speaker 2: but you want something that's good quality, well. 821 00:35:14,794 --> 00:35:18,154 Speaker 1: I feel like if it's like a basic, yes, I know, 822 00:35:19,314 --> 00:35:20,954 Speaker 1: you're a classic. 823 00:35:20,714 --> 00:35:23,274 Speaker 2: Yes, classic, it's yeah, it's not making a statement, however, 824 00:35:23,314 --> 00:35:25,393 Speaker 2: it does polishing outfit. 825 00:35:25,194 --> 00:35:27,994 Speaker 1: Shatly bar Like, what's the point of you know, spending 826 00:35:28,034 --> 00:35:30,554 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars on something like a basic belt? 827 00:35:30,674 --> 00:35:33,714 Speaker 2: But Susann, yeah, forty dollars for genuine len the belt, 828 00:35:33,754 --> 00:35:36,194 Speaker 2: and I just think sometimes, thank God I discovered that 829 00:35:36,194 --> 00:35:38,914 Speaker 2: belt and it brought me back into the belt world. Sam, 830 00:35:38,954 --> 00:35:41,514 Speaker 2: You're amazing. You have inspired me. Stay tuned. Will I 831 00:35:41,594 --> 00:35:43,354 Speaker 2: do this for March? I think I will. 832 00:35:43,954 --> 00:35:45,394 Speaker 1: That's all we have time for today. 833 00:35:45,474 --> 00:35:47,714 Speaker 2: I hope that was helpful and I'm gonna try this 834 00:35:47,794 --> 00:35:51,154 Speaker 2: for March. So hold me accountable, please, and don't forget 835 00:35:51,154 --> 00:35:53,314 Speaker 2: There's Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's a link in the 836 00:35:53,354 --> 00:35:55,393 Speaker 2: show notes to sign up. Of course, it's free and 837 00:35:55,474 --> 00:35:58,393 Speaker 2: it's fabulous, and we're on YouTube. 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