1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,744 --> 00:00:29,784 Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney 5 00:00:29,824 --> 00:00:31,864 Speaker 1: and I'm m Burnham and we've had a couple of 6 00:00:31,984 --> 00:00:34,144 Speaker 1: days away from the pod and I have been itching 7 00:00:34,184 --> 00:00:36,664 Speaker 1: to get back because there are so many things to discuss. 8 00:00:36,664 --> 00:00:39,104 Speaker 1: I only messaged you over the weekend that I thought boundaries. 9 00:00:39,344 --> 00:00:42,624 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, because I actually should have messaging 10 00:00:42,664 --> 00:00:44,904 Speaker 2: on the weekend because I've watched a lot of TV 11 00:00:45,024 --> 00:00:45,704 Speaker 2: on the weekend. 12 00:00:46,344 --> 00:00:47,544 Speaker 1: Well, we are going to get to that over the 13 00:00:47,584 --> 00:00:49,504 Speaker 1: next few days. But coming up on the show today, 14 00:00:49,984 --> 00:00:53,224 Speaker 1: the first trailer for a new reality TV series that 15 00:00:53,304 --> 00:00:56,024 Speaker 1: we have been dying to see from some very famous 16 00:00:56,064 --> 00:00:58,544 Speaker 1: faces has dropped, and I need to talk about it 17 00:00:58,544 --> 00:01:00,424 Speaker 1: because I'm not sure if it's a parody or if 18 00:01:00,424 --> 00:01:02,864 Speaker 1: they're being serious. It's opened up a whole can of worms. 19 00:01:03,064 --> 00:01:05,584 Speaker 1: Plus the Oscar nominations they came out the end of 20 00:01:05,664 --> 00:01:08,224 Speaker 1: last week. We need to get into them today because 21 00:01:08,264 --> 00:01:11,504 Speaker 1: there have been some big snubs and surprise as usual, 22 00:01:11,584 --> 00:01:15,224 Speaker 1: but also a lot of controversy around the most nominated movie. 23 00:01:15,424 --> 00:01:18,024 Speaker 1: But first, speaking of controversy. 24 00:01:17,584 --> 00:01:22,784 Speaker 2: But oh my god, controversy. My TikTok is flooded with 25 00:01:22,944 --> 00:01:26,504 Speaker 2: little clips and scenes from this particular movie that's out 26 00:01:26,584 --> 00:01:29,624 Speaker 2: right now. It's called Baby Girl. You might have heard 27 00:01:29,664 --> 00:01:34,464 Speaker 2: of it. It stars Nicole Kidman, Antonio Benderz, and Harris Dickinson. 28 00:01:35,024 --> 00:01:40,424 Speaker 1: Hey, we need to have a conversation. You're very young. 29 00:01:40,544 --> 00:01:41,464 Speaker 2: I don't want to you. 30 00:01:42,784 --> 00:01:45,584 Speaker 1: I think I have power over you because I could 31 00:01:45,624 --> 00:01:48,784 Speaker 1: make one call and you and everything. Does that turn 32 00:01:48,824 --> 00:01:54,224 Speaker 1: you on when it's here? Happy fantasies? What do you mean? 33 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:56,904 Speaker 1: It's about giving and taking power? 34 00:01:58,304 --> 00:01:59,744 Speaker 2: What did you two go to a library? 35 00:01:59,784 --> 00:02:00,344 Speaker 1: Look that up. 36 00:02:00,384 --> 00:02:01,264 Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. 37 00:02:01,464 --> 00:02:03,704 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm no, no, no, no no. 38 00:02:04,544 --> 00:02:08,064 Speaker 2: And we actually watched this film. It feels like years ago, 39 00:02:08,104 --> 00:02:09,144 Speaker 2: but it was like last month. 40 00:02:09,264 --> 00:02:12,104 Speaker 1: We watched it just before Christmas. We went to screening 41 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:14,384 Speaker 1: on the Tuesday night and the Friday was our last 42 00:02:14,464 --> 00:02:16,784 Speaker 1: day before we shut down for the year. It also 43 00:02:16,864 --> 00:02:18,824 Speaker 1: wasn't coming out on Astray to the end of January, 44 00:02:18,824 --> 00:02:20,704 Speaker 1: but it was the only opportunity we had to see it, 45 00:02:21,064 --> 00:02:23,504 Speaker 1: and that viewing experience will stick in my mind for 46 00:02:23,544 --> 00:02:26,264 Speaker 1: a long time because it's become so famous because of 47 00:02:26,264 --> 00:02:28,784 Speaker 1: the Nicole Kidmen factory and people being so invested in 48 00:02:28,864 --> 00:02:30,784 Speaker 1: like what they see as a sex crazy movie, even 49 00:02:30,784 --> 00:02:33,264 Speaker 1: though it's not exactly that. And so it's a small 50 00:02:33,304 --> 00:02:35,664 Speaker 1: release and it was just in this tiny, little like 51 00:02:35,704 --> 00:02:39,424 Speaker 1: a fifteen seater theater, and most of those seats were 52 00:02:39,424 --> 00:02:40,584 Speaker 1: taken up with mumameasta. 53 00:02:40,744 --> 00:02:43,024 Speaker 2: It was a fifteen seater theater. Ten of them were Mum, 54 00:02:43,104 --> 00:02:46,544 Speaker 2: and five of them were these five poor people. 55 00:02:46,504 --> 00:02:50,104 Speaker 1: Like elder gentlemen film reviewers, so their notepads out, I'm like, 56 00:02:50,104 --> 00:02:52,104 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that we're here because I. 57 00:02:52,064 --> 00:02:54,424 Speaker 2: Forgot that there were other people in the cinema. And 58 00:02:54,784 --> 00:02:57,864 Speaker 2: this film, although like it's not like a sex crazy film, 59 00:02:57,944 --> 00:03:03,184 Speaker 2: there are very graphic scenes like sex scenes where they yes, 60 00:03:03,264 --> 00:03:06,304 Speaker 2: when Nicole Kidman is making some very interesting noises. She's 61 00:03:06,344 --> 00:03:08,984 Speaker 2: famously said how she's so tired of orgasming in his own. 62 00:03:08,904 --> 00:03:11,824 Speaker 1: Oh, I did really understand that comedy understood it after 63 00:03:11,864 --> 00:03:12,744 Speaker 1: you watch the movie. 64 00:03:13,024 --> 00:03:15,184 Speaker 2: So there were certain times I've been watching the movie 65 00:03:15,224 --> 00:03:18,144 Speaker 2: and then without even thinking, I'd just be like, oh shit, 66 00:03:19,664 --> 00:03:21,624 Speaker 2: forgetting that there are other people in that to not 67 00:03:21,704 --> 00:03:23,864 Speaker 2: so be aware when you go watching cinema that you 68 00:03:23,904 --> 00:03:27,344 Speaker 2: will have a physical reaction. So Baby Girl, it does 69 00:03:27,384 --> 00:03:30,544 Speaker 2: start Nicole Kimmin. She plays Rommy, who's a CEO of 70 00:03:30,584 --> 00:03:34,304 Speaker 2: a very successful tech company and she's married to Antonio Banderz. 71 00:03:34,384 --> 00:03:36,184 Speaker 2: They have kids. They seem like they're living like the 72 00:03:36,304 --> 00:03:40,744 Speaker 2: ultimate happy life. However, she's not fulfilled sexually in her 73 00:03:40,784 --> 00:03:43,544 Speaker 2: relationship and she begins to have an affair with an 74 00:03:43,624 --> 00:03:46,704 Speaker 2: intern at a workplace named Samuel. That's the person that 75 00:03:46,744 --> 00:03:50,624 Speaker 2: Harris Dickinson plays, and throughout this film you find out 76 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:53,624 Speaker 2: that she has a sort of submissive kink. Yes, and 77 00:03:53,664 --> 00:03:56,184 Speaker 2: it's kind of, I guess, a role reversal of what 78 00:03:56,184 --> 00:03:58,864 Speaker 2: we usually see where it's like the man who's a 79 00:03:58,904 --> 00:04:01,224 Speaker 2: CEO and then he has an affair with an intern. 80 00:04:01,504 --> 00:04:05,744 Speaker 2: They play that quite differently and it's just so well done. 81 00:04:05,904 --> 00:04:08,864 Speaker 2: I think she's brilliant in it because it's not all 82 00:04:08,984 --> 00:04:10,904 Speaker 2: just about sex. The stuff you'll see on TikTok and 83 00:04:10,944 --> 00:04:13,304 Speaker 2: on socials will be very much skewed that this whole 84 00:04:13,304 --> 00:04:16,344 Speaker 2: movie is about sex, but it's also about a woman 85 00:04:16,384 --> 00:04:18,744 Speaker 2: in power and how just because she has an affair, 86 00:04:18,824 --> 00:04:20,624 Speaker 2: she still has to deal with all the other stuff 87 00:04:20,624 --> 00:04:21,944 Speaker 2: that comes with a woman in power. 88 00:04:22,224 --> 00:04:24,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such an interesting movie. Won't go too into 89 00:04:24,344 --> 00:04:27,064 Speaker 1: it now. So it's coming out in Australia on January thirtieth. 90 00:04:27,464 --> 00:04:29,024 Speaker 1: Highly recommend you all go and see it. 91 00:04:29,064 --> 00:04:31,104 Speaker 2: Don't watch you with your parents, don't watch you with 92 00:04:31,144 --> 00:04:32,064 Speaker 2: your parents. 93 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:34,464 Speaker 1: And then we are going to do a brittly honest 94 00:04:34,504 --> 00:04:37,064 Speaker 1: review next week because there's so much to say about 95 00:04:37,104 --> 00:04:39,464 Speaker 1: this movie. And like everywhere else in the world, it 96 00:04:39,544 --> 00:04:41,944 Speaker 1: came out over Christmas, which is said because when you're 97 00:04:41,984 --> 00:04:43,544 Speaker 1: watching you like this is kind of a Christmas movie. 98 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:46,704 Speaker 1: There's Christmas decorations as a Christmas party. That's the whole vibe. 99 00:04:46,744 --> 00:04:50,064 Speaker 2: The teraristick in sim I've been stalking his Instagram, Yeah, 100 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:53,344 Speaker 2: and the amount of followers he gets every single day 101 00:04:53,624 --> 00:04:54,624 Speaker 2: is insane. 102 00:04:54,824 --> 00:04:56,944 Speaker 1: Hey, you one of those followers. I was a follower 103 00:04:57,024 --> 00:05:00,664 Speaker 1: before before the sexy scenes. So it's gonna come out 104 00:05:00,664 --> 00:05:03,584 Speaker 1: in the staying cinemas this week. Brutally honest review next week, 105 00:05:03,584 --> 00:05:04,984 Speaker 1: So everyone going and see it first because we have 106 00:05:05,024 --> 00:05:07,264 Speaker 1: to go deep on spoilers. We have emotions we've been 107 00:05:07,304 --> 00:05:09,304 Speaker 1: holding in for over a month about this movie. 108 00:05:09,304 --> 00:05:15,504 Speaker 2: Bigger emotions in the col mineself. So lb you pointed 109 00:05:15,584 --> 00:05:19,984 Speaker 2: me to a trailer that was released yesterday, and it's 110 00:05:20,024 --> 00:05:22,944 Speaker 2: a trailer that we've been very, very excited for because 111 00:05:22,984 --> 00:05:25,384 Speaker 2: we have talked about it in the past. It is 112 00:05:25,664 --> 00:05:31,144 Speaker 2: the Baldwin Family trailer for Alec Baldwin and his wife Ladia. 113 00:05:32,624 --> 00:05:39,184 Speaker 2: Seven children, six animals, two parents, wild family. 114 00:05:39,664 --> 00:05:44,264 Speaker 1: Why are we eating chocolate? Outro back? Okay, gross, isn't 115 00:05:44,264 --> 00:05:45,744 Speaker 1: that happy face? 116 00:05:47,424 --> 00:05:51,024 Speaker 2: I son lost his mom in the most unthinkable tragedy. 117 00:05:51,544 --> 00:05:54,424 Speaker 1: This is never something to forget, and we're trying to 118 00:05:54,544 --> 00:05:55,184 Speaker 1: parent through it. 119 00:05:55,704 --> 00:06:01,424 Speaker 2: Know that, honestly, from the bottom of my soul, I 120 00:06:01,464 --> 00:06:03,184 Speaker 2: don't know where I'd be if I didn't have you 121 00:06:03,224 --> 00:06:07,144 Speaker 2: in this cause I believe you. It's just ignore him. 122 00:06:07,864 --> 00:06:11,904 Speaker 1: We've had bad moments, but we found our foundation. 123 00:06:13,544 --> 00:06:14,784 Speaker 2: She says, you should look like them. 124 00:06:17,584 --> 00:06:19,064 Speaker 1: We're solid and we're here together. 125 00:06:19,864 --> 00:06:22,704 Speaker 2: It's like a reality show about their family. It starts 126 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:27,544 Speaker 2: off very upbeat, very happy, seven kids, six pets. What 127 00:06:27,664 --> 00:06:30,104 Speaker 2: could go wrong? And it's just like them just dealing 128 00:06:30,104 --> 00:06:33,024 Speaker 2: with their kids. It's messy, it's fun. The music is 129 00:06:33,104 --> 00:06:36,544 Speaker 2: lively and upbeat, and then it just slows down and 130 00:06:36,584 --> 00:06:40,304 Speaker 2: then Hilardia firstly don't worry. Her accent is back. 131 00:06:40,904 --> 00:06:43,104 Speaker 1: I thought she wasn't doing the Spanish accent. I thought 132 00:06:43,144 --> 00:06:44,024 Speaker 1: she was trying to pull it back. 133 00:06:44,064 --> 00:06:45,784 Speaker 2: That's what I mean, like her normal accent. 134 00:06:45,824 --> 00:06:48,704 Speaker 1: Oh, her normal American accent can'tchanish at all. 135 00:06:49,304 --> 00:06:52,144 Speaker 2: She says the line a son lost his mum in 136 00:06:52,184 --> 00:06:55,424 Speaker 2: the most unthinkable tragedy. As this line has been said, 137 00:06:55,504 --> 00:06:58,304 Speaker 2: you see like kind of a landscape of a beautiful farm. 138 00:06:58,384 --> 00:07:00,624 Speaker 2: You then see her hugging your kids. You then see 139 00:07:00,784 --> 00:07:03,224 Speaker 2: Alex so sad, and I was like, what are they 140 00:07:03,264 --> 00:07:06,384 Speaker 2: talking about? Alec Baldwin loses mum in a tragic way? 141 00:07:06,464 --> 00:07:08,664 Speaker 2: Did she lose like one of their sons lose? 142 00:07:08,744 --> 00:07:08,824 Speaker 1: Like? 143 00:07:08,824 --> 00:07:12,784 Speaker 2: What's going on? And I was like, oh my god, 144 00:07:13,264 --> 00:07:18,864 Speaker 2: she is referring to the woman that Alec Baldwin accidentally shot. 145 00:07:19,704 --> 00:07:23,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the trailer, No, I know. This whole thing feels. 146 00:07:23,384 --> 00:07:25,624 Speaker 2: And then they're hugging, and then she says and then 147 00:07:25,664 --> 00:07:29,464 Speaker 2: we've had bad moments, but we found our foundation. You're 148 00:07:29,504 --> 00:07:31,424 Speaker 2: not the only one has had a bad moment. I'm 149 00:07:31,424 --> 00:07:33,464 Speaker 2: pretty sure that sometimes a lot of bad moments. 150 00:07:33,784 --> 00:07:36,464 Speaker 1: This whole trailer, why do they do that? Okay, it 151 00:07:36,464 --> 00:07:37,464 Speaker 1: feels like a parody. 152 00:07:37,504 --> 00:07:38,744 Speaker 2: And that's again at the end. 153 00:07:38,944 --> 00:07:41,104 Speaker 1: I know no, I knew this was coming, but part 154 00:07:41,104 --> 00:07:43,304 Speaker 1: of me didn't quite believe it was true, because it's 155 00:07:43,344 --> 00:07:48,304 Speaker 1: so ridiculous that Alec Baldwin and Hilaria Baldwin have gone 156 00:07:48,344 --> 00:07:50,104 Speaker 1: down this route even though she's been trying to be 157 00:07:50,144 --> 00:07:52,064 Speaker 1: famous for so long, and I don't know she's a. 158 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:53,584 Speaker 2: Change of accent to try to get famous. 159 00:07:53,624 --> 00:07:55,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it did. I mean, it kind of did 160 00:07:55,384 --> 00:07:57,224 Speaker 1: work out for her. She's in a different way, think 161 00:07:57,384 --> 00:08:00,144 Speaker 1: a plan, and so watching it though, it just feels 162 00:08:00,144 --> 00:08:02,144 Speaker 1: like a parody because, as you're saying, it starts off 163 00:08:02,184 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 1: like this quirky, like we're this big, crazy family. You've 164 00:08:05,464 --> 00:08:08,064 Speaker 1: got like Alec Baldwin, who's the stodgy old dad character 165 00:08:08,104 --> 00:08:11,264 Speaker 1: of like don't you kids do that? Or don't? And 166 00:08:11,304 --> 00:08:14,264 Speaker 1: then you've got Hilaria bounding around being like this crazy 167 00:08:14,344 --> 00:08:16,624 Speaker 1: mom and she's so cute and fun and they're having 168 00:08:16,704 --> 00:08:18,944 Speaker 1: this cute little life. You're like, oh, this is really sweet. 169 00:08:18,984 --> 00:08:20,104 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, as you're saying, the 170 00:08:20,184 --> 00:08:23,544 Speaker 1: tone changes and they start talking about the death of 171 00:08:23,624 --> 00:08:26,704 Speaker 1: Helena Hutchins without mentioning her. And then it's a sudden 172 00:08:26,784 --> 00:08:29,024 Speaker 1: kind of like jerk back to but we just a fun, 173 00:08:29,104 --> 00:08:30,144 Speaker 1: quirky little family. 174 00:08:30,384 --> 00:08:32,824 Speaker 2: And they had like one quote where they said about 175 00:08:33,184 --> 00:08:35,024 Speaker 2: her son lost his mum in the most unthinkable way. 176 00:08:35,104 --> 00:08:37,384 Speaker 2: It's like spanning across a farm land, and my mind 177 00:08:37,424 --> 00:08:39,304 Speaker 2: trade their way went to like did someone drown in 178 00:08:39,344 --> 00:08:42,184 Speaker 2: the lake? Was there some farm accident? Well, like, it's 179 00:08:42,224 --> 00:08:44,864 Speaker 2: so like it's only when I read the comments on 180 00:08:44,984 --> 00:08:48,464 Speaker 2: the trailer and people were saying and yet they make 181 00:08:48,504 --> 00:08:51,224 Speaker 2: their death all about them, I was so confused, Like 182 00:08:51,264 --> 00:08:53,824 Speaker 2: it actually, I could not believe that they were actually 183 00:08:53,824 --> 00:08:56,664 Speaker 2: talking about that moment in that way in the trailer. 184 00:08:56,664 --> 00:08:58,624 Speaker 1: So just to back up on the two controversies that 185 00:08:58,664 --> 00:09:01,184 Speaker 1: they're skating over in the trailer for people who don't know, 186 00:09:01,304 --> 00:09:03,704 Speaker 1: so many years ago, now four or five years ago, 187 00:09:03,984 --> 00:09:06,744 Speaker 1: it came out that just from a Twitter thread of 188 00:09:06,824 --> 00:09:09,944 Speaker 1: someone talking about the fact that isn't impressive how much 189 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:13,544 Speaker 1: Hilaria Baldwin has fooled us all into thinking that she's 190 00:09:13,664 --> 00:09:16,344 Speaker 1: from Spain, that she's Spanish, when her name is Hilary 191 00:09:16,384 --> 00:09:20,144 Speaker 1: Thompson and she was raised in Boston, And then that. 192 00:09:20,104 --> 00:09:21,944 Speaker 2: Blew up that her real name's Hillary. 193 00:09:21,944 --> 00:09:24,624 Speaker 1: Who knows Hillary Thompson has she gone back to Hillary. No, 194 00:09:24,664 --> 00:09:29,184 Speaker 1: She's still Hilaria Elaiah. And then this whole thing started unraveling, 195 00:09:29,544 --> 00:09:31,704 Speaker 1: and it was the most fascinating thing to watch because 196 00:09:32,064 --> 00:09:34,064 Speaker 1: she and her family had been on the front cover 197 00:09:34,104 --> 00:09:36,464 Speaker 1: of like Spanish magazines and she was talking about making 198 00:09:36,544 --> 00:09:39,104 Speaker 1: the move to America. She's done all these interviews trying 199 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:41,824 Speaker 1: to explain to her family how to say Baldwin. Meanwhile, 200 00:09:41,904 --> 00:09:44,704 Speaker 1: her parents are like, they're like university lecturers in Boston, 201 00:09:44,744 --> 00:09:47,024 Speaker 1: like they only speak English, and they were like, yeah, 202 00:09:47,064 --> 00:09:49,904 Speaker 1: we can say Baldwin. English is our first language. And 203 00:09:49,944 --> 00:09:51,544 Speaker 1: then it went onto this whole big thing of how 204 00:09:51,584 --> 00:09:54,264 Speaker 1: she'd gone on like Spanish speaking talk shows and also 205 00:09:54,384 --> 00:09:57,064 Speaker 1: done like talk shows in America where she had forgotten 206 00:09:57,064 --> 00:09:59,624 Speaker 1: the words for not just cucumber that was the famous one, 207 00:09:59,624 --> 00:10:02,504 Speaker 1: but she'd forgotten many words. And then Alec Baldwin would 208 00:10:02,504 --> 00:10:04,104 Speaker 1: go on talk shows and he'd be like, oh, my 209 00:10:04,144 --> 00:10:06,264 Speaker 1: wife is you know she's from Spain. She's crazy and 210 00:10:06,464 --> 00:10:08,784 Speaker 1: there's such a huge language barrier between us, but we 211 00:10:08,824 --> 00:10:10,344 Speaker 1: make it work. That they built up this whole thing 212 00:10:10,424 --> 00:10:12,104 Speaker 1: for years and years and years, and then it came 213 00:10:12,144 --> 00:10:15,224 Speaker 1: out that she had been raised in America and she'd 214 00:10:15,344 --> 00:10:18,184 Speaker 1: holidayed in Spain, and then she put up that video 215 00:10:18,304 --> 00:10:20,424 Speaker 1: saying like I don't know, like I have two cultures. 216 00:10:20,464 --> 00:10:22,664 Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's bad. And then Alec ball 217 00:10:22,744 --> 00:10:24,824 Speaker 1: And put out a video being like, just considered the source, 218 00:10:25,224 --> 00:10:27,664 Speaker 1: consider the source, trace the sauce. And I'm like, I'm 219 00:10:27,664 --> 00:10:30,064 Speaker 1: tracing the source right back to everyone who went to 220 00:10:30,144 --> 00:10:33,104 Speaker 1: high stuff. How we found out we considered the source. Yeah, 221 00:10:33,304 --> 00:10:35,144 Speaker 1: so many people are just like people who like knew 222 00:10:35,184 --> 00:10:37,824 Speaker 1: her beforehand, have just like her school teachers and people 223 00:10:37,864 --> 00:10:40,144 Speaker 1: that she went to high school with friends, neighbors, just there. 224 00:10:40,144 --> 00:10:42,624 Speaker 1: She was just a normal American speaking girl. And you 225 00:10:42,664 --> 00:10:45,224 Speaker 1: know how I'm obsessed with every Outfit podcast. Lauren, one 226 00:10:45,224 --> 00:10:46,784 Speaker 1: of the hosts on that, was friends with her in 227 00:10:46,864 --> 00:10:49,784 Speaker 1: New York through like mutual friends when she started dating 228 00:10:49,784 --> 00:10:52,064 Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin, that like, she was just a normal American 229 00:10:52,104 --> 00:10:54,984 Speaker 1: speaking woman who'd never mentioned Spain, and all of a sudden, 230 00:10:55,024 --> 00:10:56,664 Speaker 1: she's like, reinvented this Spanish woman. 231 00:10:57,064 --> 00:11:01,024 Speaker 2: Wait, she tried something new. She didn't try out they 232 00:11:01,104 --> 00:11:01,624 Speaker 2: found out. 233 00:11:01,784 --> 00:11:03,904 Speaker 1: She has just stuck with it. If you ask her 234 00:11:03,904 --> 00:11:06,624 Speaker 1: to this day, she's like, yeah, I'm in Spanish, Like, how. 235 00:11:06,504 --> 00:11:08,464 Speaker 2: Could you not. If I was, I'd be like, yep, 236 00:11:08,584 --> 00:11:09,384 Speaker 2: I can't back out. 237 00:11:09,464 --> 00:11:11,704 Speaker 1: Now she has of usily going into filming the show, 238 00:11:11,744 --> 00:11:14,064 Speaker 1: she'd have had to make a choice whether she stays 239 00:11:14,144 --> 00:11:16,744 Speaker 1: speaking Spanish with the broken English and really commits that, 240 00:11:16,984 --> 00:11:19,744 Speaker 1: or whether she goes where she's speaking and pretty much 241 00:11:19,744 --> 00:11:22,424 Speaker 1: in her American accent. And she has gone that way full. 242 00:11:22,264 --> 00:11:24,504 Speaker 2: Like American acts. So that was like more American than 243 00:11:24,504 --> 00:11:25,144 Speaker 2: I've ever heard of it. 244 00:11:25,304 --> 00:11:28,744 Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, she's probably like Spain, never been there, 245 00:11:28,984 --> 00:11:31,584 Speaker 1: She's like, where where's Spain now? She's just a rich 246 00:11:31,624 --> 00:11:33,704 Speaker 1: mum living outside New York City. So that was controversy 247 00:11:33,824 --> 00:11:35,464 Speaker 1: number one, and that was a fun time for everyone. 248 00:11:35,544 --> 00:11:36,344 Speaker 1: No one really got hurt. 249 00:11:36,344 --> 00:11:38,344 Speaker 2: Do you think that'll addressed that? I wish that wasn't there. 250 00:11:38,504 --> 00:11:40,664 Speaker 1: I think I hopefully they will. That's what they care about. 251 00:11:40,824 --> 00:11:43,624 Speaker 1: The other big controversy, which obviously was a very serious one, 252 00:11:44,144 --> 00:11:46,544 Speaker 1: was on the filming of Russ back in twenty twenty one, 253 00:11:46,824 --> 00:11:48,984 Speaker 1: which was the big western they were filming. Alec Baldwin 254 00:11:49,104 --> 00:11:52,904 Speaker 1: was in it and cinematographer Helena Hutchins very tragically died 255 00:11:53,104 --> 00:11:55,344 Speaker 1: when the gun that was held by Alec Baldwin went 256 00:11:55,384 --> 00:11:58,264 Speaker 1: off there was a huge investigation into that. So the 257 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:01,224 Speaker 1: film's Armora Hannah Gerez read that's the Firson one set 258 00:12:01,264 --> 00:12:03,544 Speaker 1: who's responsible for checking all the weapons looking after them, 259 00:12:03,944 --> 00:12:07,864 Speaker 1: has been jailed because she was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. 260 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:10,904 Speaker 1: So she's in jail. And then Alec Budman was trialed 261 00:12:10,904 --> 00:12:14,944 Speaker 1: twice for involuntary manslaughter as well, but then in July 262 00:12:15,144 --> 00:12:19,024 Speaker 1: the case was dismissed over hid in evidence. So, speaking 263 00:12:19,024 --> 00:12:20,864 Speaker 1: my words carefully here, it's not that they said no, 264 00:12:20,904 --> 00:12:22,984 Speaker 1: you didn't commit manslaughter. It's just that the case couldn't 265 00:12:22,984 --> 00:12:25,104 Speaker 1: go ahead because there was an issue with some evidence 266 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,784 Speaker 1: from like one side, you know, both sides, or just 267 00:12:27,824 --> 00:12:29,464 Speaker 1: like all the people who were like trying him not 268 00:12:29,504 --> 00:12:31,904 Speaker 1: turning it improperly. And obviously if there's anything like that 269 00:12:31,944 --> 00:12:33,704 Speaker 1: in a case, it can't go to trial because it's 270 00:12:33,704 --> 00:12:37,064 Speaker 1: an unfair trial. What So then though, so it was 271 00:12:37,104 --> 00:12:39,304 Speaker 1: dismissed and he won't be trialed again. So he's kind 272 00:12:39,304 --> 00:12:41,424 Speaker 1: of you know, he's clear of that now. But what's 273 00:12:41,464 --> 00:12:43,584 Speaker 1: also awful about this is I was watching the trailer, 274 00:12:43,624 --> 00:12:45,224 Speaker 1: like all jokes about her not being able to say 275 00:12:45,304 --> 00:12:48,384 Speaker 1: vegetable names aside, is that the family of Helena Hudsons, 276 00:12:48,424 --> 00:12:50,904 Speaker 1: so her husband and their young son who was left 277 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:53,584 Speaker 1: behind after her death, and they initially were like, oh, 278 00:12:53,784 --> 00:12:56,024 Speaker 1: I think they were also in shock when it first happened, obviously, 279 00:12:56,464 --> 00:12:58,384 Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, Alec Ball when and everyone 280 00:12:58,424 --> 00:13:00,144 Speaker 1: on the film has been really lovely to us. And 281 00:13:00,184 --> 00:13:03,104 Speaker 1: then afterwards, as Alec Bulwin kept doing all these big 282 00:13:03,144 --> 00:13:05,704 Speaker 1: interviews and doing conspiracy theories and saying like the gun 283 00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:08,224 Speaker 1: never went off, I never held it, like and stuff, 284 00:13:08,264 --> 00:13:10,104 Speaker 1: and then her husband came out and was like, he's 285 00:13:10,144 --> 00:13:12,944 Speaker 1: making at all about him and he's like, you know, 286 00:13:13,104 --> 00:13:15,864 Speaker 1: using my wife's name to tell his story, and people 287 00:13:15,864 --> 00:13:17,704 Speaker 1: aren't reaching out to help us, and it became this 288 00:13:17,744 --> 00:13:19,824 Speaker 1: whole thing. So he wanted Alec Ball want to stop 289 00:13:19,864 --> 00:13:20,624 Speaker 1: talking about. 290 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:22,944 Speaker 2: It, which I'm like, the bare minimum ask yes, so 291 00:13:23,184 --> 00:13:25,184 Speaker 2: you want toop talking about We wanted Alec and Hilario 292 00:13:25,264 --> 00:13:27,024 Speaker 2: to stop talking about it, and now they are doing 293 00:13:27,024 --> 00:13:29,264 Speaker 2: it as a plot point on their TV show and 294 00:13:29,344 --> 00:13:31,944 Speaker 2: like parenting their way through through it. 295 00:13:32,024 --> 00:13:34,024 Speaker 1: They're like, we've been through some tough times talking about 296 00:13:34,024 --> 00:13:36,584 Speaker 1: the trial, and then the camera shows like Alec walking 297 00:13:36,624 --> 00:13:39,784 Speaker 1: looking really sad, Alec looking sad in a chair Hilara 298 00:13:39,904 --> 00:13:41,824 Speaker 1: like looking over to him and like patting his arm 299 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:43,104 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's what about you guys. 300 00:13:43,264 --> 00:13:45,504 Speaker 2: And then they also panned to a point where like 301 00:13:45,584 --> 00:13:48,944 Speaker 2: they see a paparazzi. Yeah, I'm taking photos of their kids, 302 00:13:49,664 --> 00:13:52,344 Speaker 2: as if like that amounts of the same amount of 303 00:13:52,344 --> 00:13:54,344 Speaker 2: like tragedy as someone getting killed. 304 00:13:54,424 --> 00:13:57,384 Speaker 1: Yeah. And also the crazy thing is, unless they've changed 305 00:13:57,384 --> 00:13:59,944 Speaker 1: their minds, Rust is still potentially coming out. 306 00:14:00,104 --> 00:14:00,624 Speaker 2: No it's not. 307 00:14:00,904 --> 00:14:02,704 Speaker 1: It's still going to come out in cinemas at this 308 00:14:02,704 --> 00:14:04,824 Speaker 1: point in time. Who wants to see that movie? 309 00:14:05,224 --> 00:14:06,464 Speaker 2: No one ever watch that. 310 00:14:06,664 --> 00:14:08,024 Speaker 1: I would never watch that, Like. 311 00:14:08,184 --> 00:14:09,704 Speaker 2: You're not going to get a b early honest review 312 00:14:09,744 --> 00:14:10,224 Speaker 2: for that movie. 313 00:14:10,344 --> 00:14:12,664 Speaker 1: No, No, not a weekend watch. I just don't understand 314 00:14:12,664 --> 00:14:14,424 Speaker 1: why they just didn't shut the whole thing down, why 315 00:14:14,424 --> 00:14:16,664 Speaker 1: they went back. It'd be different if like maybe Helena 316 00:14:16,704 --> 00:14:18,784 Speaker 1: had like written the screenplay and she really wanted this 317 00:14:18,824 --> 00:14:20,984 Speaker 1: movie made and her family were like, please finish the movie. 318 00:14:21,024 --> 00:14:21,984 Speaker 1: But none of that. 319 00:14:22,104 --> 00:14:24,184 Speaker 2: They're just like, please stop talking about it. And then 320 00:14:24,184 --> 00:14:25,704 Speaker 2: they're like, you know what we're going to talk about 321 00:14:25,704 --> 00:14:26,144 Speaker 2: it to more. 322 00:14:26,384 --> 00:14:29,064 Speaker 1: Well, we don't actually know where The Baldwins is going 323 00:14:29,104 --> 00:14:31,024 Speaker 1: to air in Australia. Yeah, but I'm sure we'll get 324 00:14:31,024 --> 00:14:32,464 Speaker 1: it all. Come on to one of our streamers. I 325 00:14:32,464 --> 00:14:34,064 Speaker 1: hope so, because we need to watch the show and 326 00:14:34,104 --> 00:14:35,864 Speaker 1: talk more about it. But it's coming out in February 327 00:14:35,944 --> 00:14:41,024 Speaker 1: twenty three, Be Alert and Alarmed. So late last week, 328 00:14:41,064 --> 00:14:43,784 Speaker 1: after being pushed back for over a week because of 329 00:14:43,864 --> 00:14:47,584 Speaker 1: the wildfires that were happening in LA, the nominations for 330 00:14:47,704 --> 00:14:50,704 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Oscars were announced. Some of us, 331 00:14:50,704 --> 00:14:52,504 Speaker 1: like you, probably saw them in the morning. Some of 332 00:14:52,544 --> 00:14:55,264 Speaker 1: us like me, stayed up till three am watching a 333 00:14:55,304 --> 00:14:58,304 Speaker 1: live announcement. I can't go to They start announcing them 334 00:14:58,344 --> 00:15:00,864 Speaker 1: just after one am, and that's when all like the 335 00:15:00,944 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 1: reactions and the shocks and everything are coming out. I 336 00:15:02,944 --> 00:15:03,584 Speaker 1: can go to sleep. 337 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:05,064 Speaker 2: Like who did the announcement? 338 00:15:05,224 --> 00:15:07,064 Speaker 1: So it was Bow and Yang your Faith and Rachel 339 00:15:07,064 --> 00:15:10,824 Speaker 1: sent it look to get hilarious to hilarious people, but 340 00:15:10,904 --> 00:15:13,384 Speaker 1: also making announcements. They don't get to really quip too much. 341 00:15:13,384 --> 00:15:15,904 Speaker 1: It's a pretty solid thing. But they both looked very fancy, 342 00:15:16,304 --> 00:15:19,104 Speaker 1: So that was fun and it's shaping up to be 343 00:15:19,224 --> 00:15:21,624 Speaker 1: a really interesting Oscar's probably one of the most interesting 344 00:15:21,664 --> 00:15:23,664 Speaker 1: we've had in a few years because you know how 345 00:15:23,704 --> 00:15:25,144 Speaker 1: like some years going into it, you're like, oh, I 346 00:15:25,144 --> 00:15:27,104 Speaker 1: know who's going to win every category. It's kind of 347 00:15:27,104 --> 00:15:28,784 Speaker 1: a lock. I know who's going to win Best Picture. 348 00:15:29,144 --> 00:15:32,064 Speaker 1: Everything skewing towards it. Whereas this year, especially in the 349 00:15:32,104 --> 00:15:35,664 Speaker 1: acting categories, there's a few surprises and a few categories 350 00:15:35,664 --> 00:15:37,944 Speaker 1: it could go either way, but most of the drama 351 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 1: is coming from the movie that has the most nominations, 352 00:15:40,944 --> 00:15:42,064 Speaker 1: and that is Amelia Preyers. 353 00:15:42,144 --> 00:15:44,104 Speaker 2: But we knew Amelia Perez was going to get the 354 00:15:44,104 --> 00:15:47,464 Speaker 2: most nominations, especially coming off the back of Golden Globe. 355 00:15:47,144 --> 00:15:49,544 Speaker 1: Well to an extent, but it's different because the Golden 356 00:15:49,544 --> 00:15:52,184 Speaker 1: Globes is the Hollywood Foreign Press or like they've renamed 357 00:15:52,184 --> 00:15:54,184 Speaker 1: themselves since then. But you know, it's that voting body 358 00:15:54,184 --> 00:15:56,184 Speaker 1: which is very different to the people who vote in 359 00:15:56,224 --> 00:15:58,344 Speaker 1: the Oscars. And yes, it did win like a lot 360 00:15:58,384 --> 00:16:01,704 Speaker 1: of awards at Can't Film Festival, but it's widely regarded 361 00:16:01,824 --> 00:16:05,504 Speaker 1: as a very terrible movie. Oh, Like most critics say 362 00:16:05,544 --> 00:16:08,224 Speaker 1: it's terrible. Viewers have said it's terrible. I personally haven't 363 00:16:08,224 --> 00:16:10,104 Speaker 1: seen it yet, but I'm going to watch before the Oscars. 364 00:16:10,464 --> 00:16:13,384 Speaker 1: But like it's not seen as a like an Oscar 365 00:16:13,424 --> 00:16:15,664 Speaker 1: worthy movie in a lot of those circles of people 366 00:16:15,744 --> 00:16:18,504 Speaker 1: who would normally vote for something like this. So it's 367 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:20,904 Speaker 1: interesting that it is, like because people were saying like, oh, yeah, 368 00:16:20,904 --> 00:16:22,784 Speaker 1: you can get it at the Golden Globes. I'd love 369 00:16:22,824 --> 00:16:24,904 Speaker 1: to see it get that many awards at the Oscars, 370 00:16:24,904 --> 00:16:28,464 Speaker 1: and then it kind of did. So it has thirteen nominations. 371 00:16:28,584 --> 00:16:29,904 Speaker 2: That's a weird of nomination. 372 00:16:30,064 --> 00:16:32,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's broken the record for the most Oscar nominations 373 00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:35,464 Speaker 1: ever for a film not in the English language. So 374 00:16:35,504 --> 00:16:39,144 Speaker 1: it's Beaten Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and also Roma, which 375 00:16:39,144 --> 00:16:41,304 Speaker 1: and before this, Roma was kind of like the big One, 376 00:16:41,584 --> 00:16:42,264 Speaker 1: and so it's. 377 00:16:42,104 --> 00:16:43,664 Speaker 2: Probably gonna take it out as well. 378 00:16:43,984 --> 00:16:47,344 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but that this has got more nominations than that, Yeah, exactly. 379 00:16:47,544 --> 00:16:48,384 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 380 00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:50,824 Speaker 1: So, I mean again, we haven't seen it yet. We'll 381 00:16:50,824 --> 00:16:52,224 Speaker 1: watch it. I think we need to watch it obviously 382 00:16:52,264 --> 00:16:53,024 Speaker 1: before the Oscars. 383 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:56,144 Speaker 2: It looks quite scary and also weirdly funny. 384 00:16:56,584 --> 00:16:58,624 Speaker 1: No, no, well, it's a musical. It's a musical about 385 00:16:58,624 --> 00:17:02,024 Speaker 1: a transgender gang star escaping from the mob in Mexico 386 00:17:02,544 --> 00:17:07,264 Speaker 1: and Zobe Seldana's character is helping them transition into their 387 00:17:07,264 --> 00:17:09,344 Speaker 1: lifelong dream of being a woman, So like, it does 388 00:17:09,344 --> 00:17:12,064 Speaker 1: seem like a really interesting premise and it has made 389 00:17:12,104 --> 00:17:16,064 Speaker 1: history because the star Karla Sophia Gascon. Their nomination for 390 00:17:16,224 --> 00:17:19,864 Speaker 1: Best Actress is the first time and openly transactor. He's 391 00:17:19,904 --> 00:17:23,024 Speaker 1: being nominated for an Oscar, So that's amazing. Zowie Seldane 392 00:17:23,064 --> 00:17:26,504 Speaker 1: has been nominated for Best Supporting Actress. She's probably gonna win. 393 00:17:26,544 --> 00:17:29,464 Speaker 1: Actually they like potentially wothe both win their categories, So 394 00:17:29,584 --> 00:17:30,184 Speaker 1: that's amazing. 395 00:17:30,224 --> 00:17:32,384 Speaker 2: But I've seen Selena Gomez get a lot of flak 396 00:17:32,464 --> 00:17:33,024 Speaker 2: for her role. 397 00:17:33,384 --> 00:17:35,384 Speaker 1: She got a lot of yeah, and that was like 398 00:17:35,504 --> 00:17:37,384 Speaker 1: that was when a lot of pushback for her role, 399 00:17:37,384 --> 00:17:39,224 Speaker 1: and that was the big drama when the movie came out, 400 00:17:39,304 --> 00:17:41,464 Speaker 1: because she got a lot of accolades like can Film 401 00:17:41,504 --> 00:17:43,464 Speaker 1: Festival and things like that, and then there was a 402 00:17:43,544 --> 00:17:46,024 Speaker 1: huge backlash over her accent. And then she came out 403 00:17:46,024 --> 00:17:47,384 Speaker 1: and said, well, I did the best I could with 404 00:17:47,424 --> 00:17:49,464 Speaker 1: the time I had. But it was very kind of odd. 405 00:17:49,744 --> 00:17:52,504 Speaker 1: A lot of people thought she would potentially also be 406 00:17:52,624 --> 00:17:55,104 Speaker 1: nominated for an Oscar. I did two at one stage, 407 00:17:55,104 --> 00:17:55,424 Speaker 1: so I did. 408 00:17:55,464 --> 00:17:58,224 Speaker 2: I was quite surprised, but also I don't know if 409 00:17:58,264 --> 00:17:58,824 Speaker 2: I should say this. 410 00:17:58,904 --> 00:18:01,944 Speaker 1: I was happy that she wasn't Yeah, I was too, 411 00:18:01,984 --> 00:18:03,144 Speaker 1: because there's so many other I. 412 00:18:03,144 --> 00:18:04,784 Speaker 2: Mean, I shouldn't say that because I actually haven't watched 413 00:18:04,824 --> 00:18:07,184 Speaker 2: the film. I've just seen clips of it, because I 414 00:18:07,184 --> 00:18:08,344 Speaker 2: think a lot of people in the US I have 415 00:18:08,424 --> 00:18:11,384 Speaker 2: already watched it, but everything I've seen so far, I 416 00:18:11,504 --> 00:18:13,664 Speaker 2: haven't been outwardly impressed. 417 00:18:13,904 --> 00:18:15,944 Speaker 1: No, exactly. And I think also with that, like, yes, 418 00:18:15,984 --> 00:18:17,744 Speaker 1: we can watch and have our opinions, but a lot 419 00:18:17,744 --> 00:18:19,464 Speaker 1: of people who do a lot of work in the 420 00:18:19,704 --> 00:18:22,024 Speaker 1: trans space and who are advocates in that area have 421 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:24,464 Speaker 1: come out and said that they hate the movie. And 422 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:27,224 Speaker 1: that's I think the opinion that matters too, because it's 423 00:18:27,224 --> 00:18:29,344 Speaker 1: trying to tell this story of something that doesn't usually 424 00:18:29,344 --> 00:18:31,584 Speaker 1: get told in an oscar movie, but it hasn't been 425 00:18:31,584 --> 00:18:33,544 Speaker 1: done by people in that community, which I think is 426 00:18:33,544 --> 00:18:36,504 Speaker 1: the backlash. So that's kind of the big surprise there. 427 00:18:36,504 --> 00:18:38,544 Speaker 1: But it looks like it's going to take out most awards. 428 00:18:38,944 --> 00:18:40,984 Speaker 1: And then there are a few interesting snubs. Oh, let's 429 00:18:41,024 --> 00:18:43,224 Speaker 1: talk a out the good things. First. There were some 430 00:18:43,304 --> 00:18:47,184 Speaker 1: lovely Cynthia Rivo, it's her second nomination. It was so 431 00:18:47,184 --> 00:18:49,024 Speaker 1: funny because she put up a video and she said 432 00:18:49,064 --> 00:18:50,984 Speaker 1: she found out she had the Oscar nation while she 433 00:18:51,104 --> 00:18:53,144 Speaker 1: was flying on a plane and she's like, I was 434 00:18:53,184 --> 00:18:55,424 Speaker 1: literally defined gravity and I was like, I love you. 435 00:18:55,504 --> 00:18:57,904 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's holding space up there. 436 00:18:57,624 --> 00:19:00,424 Speaker 1: Holding space up there. If she wins, she will be 437 00:19:00,464 --> 00:19:03,264 Speaker 1: an eager yes win. I don't know she's going to 438 00:19:03,304 --> 00:19:06,144 Speaker 1: win this time around. I think maybe they'll say that 439 00:19:06,224 --> 00:19:08,104 Speaker 1: for the second movie. I just think, all I know, 440 00:19:08,384 --> 00:19:12,264 Speaker 1: but Mikey Madison from a Nora who best would have 441 00:19:12,344 --> 00:19:14,984 Speaker 1: been my pick until recently where and Nora seems to 442 00:19:15,024 --> 00:19:16,824 Speaker 1: have fallen off the awards radar a little bit. 443 00:19:17,064 --> 00:19:18,944 Speaker 2: I found that disappointing. I think that's a big snub. 444 00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:20,864 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Demi Moore and I 445 00:19:20,904 --> 00:19:23,744 Speaker 1: don't have substance. Yeah, yeah, I don't hate that. I 446 00:19:23,864 --> 00:19:25,344 Speaker 1: just think I don't know she's. 447 00:19:25,224 --> 00:19:26,424 Speaker 2: Has she won an Oscar before? 448 00:19:26,544 --> 00:19:28,584 Speaker 1: No? Whoa no, no, she hasty. 449 00:19:28,664 --> 00:19:30,424 Speaker 2: That surprised me. And I said the same thing on 450 00:19:30,504 --> 00:19:34,384 Speaker 2: Golden Globes, like when these actresses who have not just 451 00:19:34,464 --> 00:19:36,544 Speaker 2: a name I'm known for so long, but also like 452 00:19:36,584 --> 00:19:39,864 Speaker 2: my parents and like everyone like from across generations just 453 00:19:39,944 --> 00:19:42,584 Speaker 2: knew them, when they come out saying they've never won 454 00:19:42,584 --> 00:19:44,424 Speaker 2: an award I'm like, how is that even possible? 455 00:19:44,704 --> 00:19:46,504 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well again, it's like she said in her Golden 456 00:19:46,504 --> 00:19:48,584 Speaker 1: Globe speech, she was seen as a popcorn actress for 457 00:19:48,584 --> 00:19:51,824 Speaker 1: a long time, so blockbusters but not but she proved 458 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:54,064 Speaker 1: them wrong. I don't know. I feel very conflicted about 459 00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:56,904 Speaker 1: her nomination. Substance was a great movie. Also, the director 460 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:59,344 Speaker 1: of the Substance is the only female director nominated, so 461 00:19:59,584 --> 00:20:01,424 Speaker 1: that's something to be thrown in there. That's something to 462 00:20:01,424 --> 00:20:04,264 Speaker 1: be excited about. But I find with Demi Moore it's 463 00:20:04,304 --> 00:20:07,224 Speaker 1: interesting because I love when all the actresses are nominated 464 00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:10,984 Speaker 1: for Oscars because traditionally, most men win their around like 465 00:20:11,024 --> 00:20:13,824 Speaker 1: forty fifty sixty, because they're seen as like, oh, they've 466 00:20:13,824 --> 00:20:18,104 Speaker 1: really come into their craft and they're a prominent actor. Yes, 467 00:20:18,744 --> 00:20:21,544 Speaker 1: And most women win them a lot younger twenty thirty, 468 00:20:21,664 --> 00:20:23,744 Speaker 1: because then they sort of are seen to like they 469 00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,784 Speaker 1: love to support an actor who's kind of paid his 470 00:20:25,944 --> 00:20:28,504 Speaker 1: dues and a woman who's an entree who's just starting out. 471 00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:29,464 Speaker 1: That's often where they take it. 472 00:20:29,504 --> 00:20:31,504 Speaker 2: And they're like, Okay, we gave you your word, now go. 473 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:32,544 Speaker 2: We don't want to see the end. 474 00:20:32,584 --> 00:20:34,384 Speaker 1: So I love that Demi Moore is getting this big 475 00:20:34,424 --> 00:20:37,424 Speaker 1: accolade now. But I also it's that old trope of 476 00:20:37,464 --> 00:20:41,144 Speaker 1: like very traditionally beautiful actresses kind of making themselves ugly 477 00:20:41,184 --> 00:20:43,864 Speaker 1: in a roll and getting the Oscar nomination for that, 478 00:20:43,944 --> 00:20:47,344 Speaker 1: of like, oh, you like deign to look not perfect 479 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,224 Speaker 1: on screen, even if it was just a character, so 480 00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:51,624 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the Oscar. So like they often 481 00:20:51,744 --> 00:20:53,624 Speaker 1: lean that way. But I also think the movie tells 482 00:20:53,664 --> 00:20:55,784 Speaker 1: this kind of big story about like aging and how 483 00:20:55,784 --> 00:20:58,184 Speaker 1: we treat people. And then Demi Moore is talking about 484 00:20:58,184 --> 00:21:00,664 Speaker 1: that on a red carpet at sixty two, which is amazing, 485 00:21:01,064 --> 00:21:03,264 Speaker 1: But then she also doesn't look like we would think, 486 00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:04,624 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she has to look 487 00:21:04,824 --> 00:21:06,464 Speaker 1: the only reason she's allowed to be on a red 488 00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:08,264 Speaker 1: carpet and starring in a movie at sixty two is 489 00:21:08,264 --> 00:21:09,184 Speaker 1: because she doesn't look sixty. 490 00:21:09,224 --> 00:21:10,304 Speaker 2: It's like, I can't believe she's sixty. 491 00:21:10,664 --> 00:21:12,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I did, so I don't know. I'm 492 00:21:12,144 --> 00:21:13,984 Speaker 1: conflicted about that, but you know, good on her, I 493 00:21:13,984 --> 00:21:15,024 Speaker 1: guess which is one. 494 00:21:15,104 --> 00:21:17,504 Speaker 2: Mikey Madson too, Oh, she's the best. 495 00:21:17,704 --> 00:21:19,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love her to win. I don't think 496 00:21:19,184 --> 00:21:20,904 Speaker 1: it's her year, but again, she's just starting out and 497 00:21:20,904 --> 00:21:23,304 Speaker 1: it is nice just to get an Oscar nomination, one 498 00:21:23,344 --> 00:21:25,504 Speaker 1: nomination that was very happy about. And I don't want 499 00:21:25,504 --> 00:21:26,824 Speaker 1: to say I made it happen, but I feel like 500 00:21:26,864 --> 00:21:28,584 Speaker 1: I made it happen. So you know how last week 501 00:21:28,584 --> 00:21:31,024 Speaker 1: we were doing our review of a Complete Unknown, the 502 00:21:31,024 --> 00:21:33,624 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan movie, and we were talking about how timthy 503 00:21:33,704 --> 00:21:36,384 Speaker 1: Chalamaie is getting all the accolades, but also El Fanning, 504 00:21:36,744 --> 00:21:38,464 Speaker 1: and I was saying, like, I just think it's really 505 00:21:38,544 --> 00:21:41,944 Speaker 1: unfair that Monica Barbara isn't in the awards conversation as much. 506 00:21:42,224 --> 00:21:45,264 Speaker 1: When to me, she as Joan Bier's was a standout 507 00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:48,344 Speaker 1: in that movie, and then she got nominated. She did, 508 00:21:48,664 --> 00:21:51,784 Speaker 1: and she was shocked. I think everyone was shocked. She 509 00:21:51,864 --> 00:21:54,424 Speaker 1: wasn't really in the conversation. You were shocked. I think 510 00:21:54,424 --> 00:21:55,064 Speaker 1: she deserved to be. 511 00:21:55,184 --> 00:21:59,184 Speaker 2: I think she was great. I don't think that movie should. 512 00:21:58,944 --> 00:22:01,104 Speaker 1: Be You think I should have bumped her for Selena Gomez. 513 00:22:02,184 --> 00:22:03,784 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think. I think she was 514 00:22:03,904 --> 00:22:06,584 Speaker 2: Her role was great. I just don't think that movie 515 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:10,064 Speaker 2: should be in the mouths of the Oscar nominations at all. 516 00:22:10,504 --> 00:22:11,944 Speaker 1: But she was good in it. If timoth Tay is 517 00:22:11,944 --> 00:22:14,584 Speaker 1: going to be up there, potentially getting Best Actor, then 518 00:22:14,624 --> 00:22:17,584 Speaker 1: she can be no, no, no, no, I don't think so 519 00:22:18,024 --> 00:22:20,864 Speaker 1: not good an like, I just I think that's gonna screwed. 520 00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:22,304 Speaker 1: I know you hate that. I think you I know 521 00:22:22,344 --> 00:22:23,984 Speaker 1: you hate that movie. I think it's going to skew 522 00:22:24,064 --> 00:22:27,464 Speaker 1: towards the broodless for the and also potentially Kiaren Colkinb's 523 00:22:27,464 --> 00:22:30,424 Speaker 1: going to win Supporting Actor. Good for a real pain. 524 00:22:30,624 --> 00:22:33,144 Speaker 1: So that's fun, just quickly to finish off some of 525 00:22:33,144 --> 00:22:35,824 Speaker 1: the big snubs along with our friends Lena Gomez, which 526 00:22:35,864 --> 00:22:38,064 Speaker 1: I did feel bad for her because it's hard to 527 00:22:38,064 --> 00:22:40,424 Speaker 1: feel bad for a billionaire, but she's always the face 528 00:22:40,424 --> 00:22:42,544 Speaker 1: of someone who's just had something terrible done to them. 529 00:22:42,584 --> 00:22:44,984 Speaker 1: And so all the stories that were like the biggest 530 00:22:45,024 --> 00:22:47,224 Speaker 1: snubs from the Oscars, the biggest actors left out of 531 00:22:47,224 --> 00:22:50,584 Speaker 1: the Oscars, her face was the image on every article. 532 00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:52,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, see that sucks. So I know, I'll just do 533 00:22:52,824 --> 00:22:54,504 Speaker 2: an Instagram story saying I'm taking a break and then 534 00:22:54,504 --> 00:22:55,344 Speaker 2: I'll come back two weeks La. 535 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:58,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's doing okay. So a few other big names, 536 00:22:58,224 --> 00:23:01,664 Speaker 1: Angelina Jolly for Maria, she was kind of a lukewarm against. 537 00:23:02,784 --> 00:23:05,464 Speaker 1: She didn't get nominated for her big she got that. 538 00:23:05,464 --> 00:23:07,904 Speaker 2: Big standing ovation that I know. 539 00:23:08,544 --> 00:23:12,064 Speaker 1: Damn it, Damila Anderson. Pamela Anderson for the Last show Girl. 540 00:23:12,304 --> 00:23:13,864 Speaker 2: Interesting because I haven't watched The Last show Girl. 541 00:23:13,864 --> 00:23:16,344 Speaker 1: I'm it so No, it's not Australia yet. You can 542 00:23:16,344 --> 00:23:17,624 Speaker 1: be my plus one if you want. We'll talk about 543 00:23:17,664 --> 00:23:21,224 Speaker 1: that affair. Pamela Anderson, who's been really graceful about it. 544 00:23:21,264 --> 00:23:24,864 Speaker 1: Of course, someone asked is beautiful and she said, Someone said, 545 00:23:24,864 --> 00:23:25,984 Speaker 1: how do you feel? And she was like, well, I 546 00:23:26,024 --> 00:23:27,664 Speaker 1: never expected it, so I feel like okay about it. 547 00:23:27,944 --> 00:23:30,824 Speaker 1: Daniel Craig for Queer being left off the list. I 548 00:23:30,824 --> 00:23:32,144 Speaker 1: don't feel too bad it, but that a lot of 549 00:23:32,184 --> 00:23:33,504 Speaker 1: people thought he was going to be in there. Oh, 550 00:23:33,544 --> 00:23:36,504 Speaker 1: this is one you'll care about. Denzel Washington for Gladiator too. 551 00:23:38,064 --> 00:23:41,304 Speaker 1: Also has anyone checked on Paul Mescal? He didn't. Paul 552 00:23:42,184 --> 00:23:44,304 Speaker 1: had no line, but he didn't even make the list 553 00:23:44,304 --> 00:23:46,944 Speaker 1: of snubs, because that's how much people didn't expect him 554 00:23:46,944 --> 00:23:52,984 Speaker 1: to get nominated. Imagining snubbed from the snubbed list. That's 555 00:23:53,024 --> 00:23:55,984 Speaker 1: so sad. Russell Craig won an Oscar for that movie. 556 00:23:56,144 --> 00:23:58,504 Speaker 2: Russell Crowe actually had lines and he has Gladiator. Poor 557 00:23:58,584 --> 00:24:01,744 Speaker 2: Mescal didn't let's be let's be honest. We weren't watching 558 00:24:01,784 --> 00:24:03,224 Speaker 2: Paul mescal for his acting. 559 00:24:03,344 --> 00:24:05,344 Speaker 1: No, I'm pretending he was going to get an. 560 00:24:05,704 --> 00:24:09,464 Speaker 2: Honestly, if Denzel Washington won an Oscar for that role 561 00:24:10,144 --> 00:24:12,184 Speaker 2: as Denzel Washington, I'd give it back. 562 00:24:12,344 --> 00:24:13,704 Speaker 1: Yeah. He get up on the stage and be like, 563 00:24:13,704 --> 00:24:15,144 Speaker 1: I'm going to see this one, Like, I know. 564 00:24:15,144 --> 00:24:17,384 Speaker 2: My name has so much value, but you really don't 565 00:24:17,384 --> 00:24:18,944 Speaker 2: have to be doing this guys, like that was just 566 00:24:18,944 --> 00:24:20,024 Speaker 2: a fun little role I play. 567 00:24:20,184 --> 00:24:21,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like I was having fun. 568 00:24:21,424 --> 00:24:23,744 Speaker 2: No one got her past up, give it to someone else. 569 00:24:23,864 --> 00:24:25,984 Speaker 1: Yeah. They probably will win for their special effects and 570 00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:30,904 Speaker 1: nominated in those monkeys on stage, except the. 571 00:24:30,384 --> 00:24:36,144 Speaker 2: Donkeys are insane. The monkeys and the shark should win alone. Really, Scott, 572 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:37,864 Speaker 2: get your heart out. Get those sharks up there. 573 00:24:37,944 --> 00:24:40,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like they were really there historically, I tell you. 574 00:24:40,744 --> 00:24:43,224 Speaker 1: And the other big snub, our friend Nicole kim in 575 00:24:43,304 --> 00:24:47,424 Speaker 1: for Baby Girl and that woman, that woman campaigned hard. Yeah, 576 00:24:47,464 --> 00:24:51,864 Speaker 1: I get any other year, any other year, Angelina, Nicole 577 00:24:52,304 --> 00:24:53,664 Speaker 1: Pamela A. 578 00:24:53,624 --> 00:24:55,144 Speaker 2: Woman need to have before she gets. 579 00:24:55,224 --> 00:24:57,424 Speaker 1: How many glasses of milk does that woman need to charge? 580 00:24:57,744 --> 00:24:59,824 Speaker 1: You know, she got so sick from drinking the milk 581 00:24:59,864 --> 00:25:02,504 Speaker 1: that she was drinking colored water, which sounds just as disgusting. 582 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,144 Speaker 2: Why don't they just give her almond milk or something. 583 00:25:05,544 --> 00:25:07,344 Speaker 1: You have to do the take like thirty times, so 584 00:25:07,384 --> 00:25:09,784 Speaker 1: it's thirty glasses of milk in a day. And then 585 00:25:09,784 --> 00:25:11,584 Speaker 1: she had to go orgasm in line on the floor. 586 00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:15,344 Speaker 1: It's a lot we've been through. If she had to 587 00:25:15,344 --> 00:25:16,384 Speaker 1: do that, she's fine. 588 00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:16,904 Speaker 2: Fine. 589 00:25:16,944 --> 00:25:20,704 Speaker 1: So the OSCARS is taking places on March three. Just 590 00:25:20,824 --> 00:25:23,224 Speaker 1: you know, get ready because our coverage that week is 591 00:25:23,264 --> 00:25:25,384 Speaker 1: going to be intense. We're not going to sleep, We're 592 00:25:25,384 --> 00:25:26,024 Speaker 1: not going to eat. 593 00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:28,384 Speaker 2: We also have Mega Marcos show. 594 00:25:28,624 --> 00:25:30,504 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, bold of how to drop it 595 00:25:30,504 --> 00:25:30,864 Speaker 1: that way? 596 00:25:32,544 --> 00:25:35,944 Speaker 2: Screen Oscar award me this. Thank you so much for 597 00:25:36,024 --> 00:25:40,184 Speaker 2: listening to our episode today. We're still laughing about Gladiator, 598 00:25:40,544 --> 00:25:43,704 Speaker 2: Poor poor medical. We also did a broadly honest review 599 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:46,864 Speaker 2: of the second Gladiator film, one of my favorite brially 600 00:25:46,904 --> 00:25:49,064 Speaker 2: honest reviews of all time, So make sure you go 601 00:25:49,104 --> 00:25:51,184 Speaker 2: back to listen. We'll also link it in our show 602 00:25:51,224 --> 00:25:53,504 Speaker 2: notes for you to listen to. The Spill is produced 603 00:25:53,544 --> 00:25:56,064 Speaker 2: by Kimberly Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik, and 604 00:25:56,064 --> 00:25:57,864 Speaker 2: we will be back in your podcast feed at three 605 00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:05,264 Speaker 2: pm tomorrow, Bye Bye