1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:15,794 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with mere podcast, Hi Ubies, 2 00:00:15,834 --> 00:00:18,674 Speaker 1: I'd be having a great Thursday over on Nothing to Wear. 3 00:00:18,794 --> 00:00:21,593 Speaker 1: There's a little segment called Bougie and Budget and it's 4 00:00:21,674 --> 00:00:23,954 Speaker 1: kind of like spendy savy, but for your wardrobe. 5 00:00:24,114 --> 00:00:26,114 Speaker 2: So have a listen and let us know what you think. 6 00:00:28,154 --> 00:00:30,994 Speaker 3: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed 7 00:00:31,114 --> 00:00:33,513 Speaker 3: laurels for spring groundbreaking? 8 00:00:33,754 --> 00:00:36,074 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 9 00:00:36,153 --> 00:00:36,833 Speaker 2: for fashion. 10 00:00:37,674 --> 00:00:40,193 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 11 00:00:40,273 --> 00:00:42,953 Speaker 4: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 12 00:00:43,034 --> 00:00:44,393 Speaker 2: I'm tamoraw Holland. 13 00:00:44,233 --> 00:00:46,914 Speaker 5: And I'm listening to Picket and each week we talk 14 00:00:47,034 --> 00:00:49,873 Speaker 5: all things fashion, helping you get the most out of 15 00:00:49,913 --> 00:00:52,473 Speaker 5: the clothes you already own, and helping you decide if 16 00:00:52,473 --> 00:00:54,234 Speaker 5: you're going to buy something, is it or is it 17 00:00:54,314 --> 00:00:55,633 Speaker 5: not worth investing in? 18 00:00:56,754 --> 00:01:00,114 Speaker 4: So today, my friend, we're talking shoes. We are breaking 19 00:01:00,154 --> 00:01:02,554 Speaker 4: down the key styles for the coming season, the shifting 20 00:01:02,714 --> 00:01:05,034 Speaker 4: sneaker trends and what they mean about what we're going 21 00:01:05,114 --> 00:01:08,354 Speaker 4: to be wearing. We're talking what's in, what out, what's emerging, 22 00:01:08,554 --> 00:01:12,354 Speaker 4: basically everything you need to know. So strap in, lace up, 23 00:01:12,514 --> 00:01:15,194 Speaker 4: let's get into it. 24 00:01:14,754 --> 00:01:17,794 Speaker 5: And I've been so excited to talk about sneakers. You're 25 00:01:17,834 --> 00:01:18,994 Speaker 5: definitely a sneakerhead. 26 00:01:19,194 --> 00:01:22,314 Speaker 4: You're a sneaker girly, aren't you. You're across it. 27 00:01:22,594 --> 00:01:25,114 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so very much. This is my cuff of tea. 28 00:01:25,194 --> 00:01:26,634 Speaker 2: And what sneakers are you wearing today? 29 00:01:26,794 --> 00:01:30,434 Speaker 5: I'm wearing the Solomon xt s's, which we'll talk about 30 00:01:30,834 --> 00:01:32,834 Speaker 5: later on in the app. But I actually have these 31 00:01:32,914 --> 00:01:34,394 Speaker 5: in three colorways, do you? 32 00:01:34,834 --> 00:01:37,754 Speaker 2: Okay? Wow, so you're very much into this sneaker I'm 33 00:01:37,754 --> 00:01:38,434 Speaker 2: going to need you to have. 34 00:01:41,754 --> 00:01:44,314 Speaker 4: You make them so cool, but yeah, we'll get into it. 35 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:46,554 Speaker 3: Okay, what is that on your foot? 36 00:01:47,434 --> 00:01:50,194 Speaker 4: Somehow, like everything you erely Sidney, you managed to pull 37 00:01:50,314 --> 00:01:53,754 Speaker 4: off back eighteen So I saw an Instagram reel from 38 00:01:53,754 --> 00:01:56,354 Speaker 4: a creator I follow that asked the question, are sneakers 39 00:01:56,434 --> 00:02:00,714 Speaker 4: still cool in twenty twenty six or are they? Are 40 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:04,034 Speaker 4: they dead? Basically? And I wanted to ask you just 41 00:02:04,114 --> 00:02:06,554 Speaker 4: straight up. I mean, you're still wearing them, obviously, a 42 00:02:06,634 --> 00:02:08,754 Speaker 4: lot of us are still wearing sneakers. It's not like 43 00:02:08,874 --> 00:02:12,674 Speaker 4: they're over. But like I guess what she's asking the sentiment, 44 00:02:13,154 --> 00:02:16,874 Speaker 4: you know, are they kind of as cool as they 45 00:02:16,914 --> 00:02:18,394 Speaker 4: were for the last few years. 46 00:02:18,434 --> 00:02:19,034 Speaker 2: What do you think. 47 00:02:19,834 --> 00:02:22,634 Speaker 3: As much as I hate to say it, there is 48 00:02:22,954 --> 00:02:23,754 Speaker 3: truth to that. 49 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:28,314 Speaker 5: So I do find the whole footwear category it has 50 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:31,754 Speaker 5: a really interesting spot within like the fashion zeitguys. And 51 00:02:31,754 --> 00:02:34,394 Speaker 5: what I mean by that, I think it's quite literally 52 00:02:34,474 --> 00:02:38,514 Speaker 5: the only piece of fashion you wear every single day. 53 00:02:39,154 --> 00:02:39,633 Speaker 3: Underwear. 54 00:02:39,754 --> 00:02:41,994 Speaker 5: You might be wearing a top that doesn't require a bra. 55 00:02:42,114 --> 00:02:44,194 Speaker 5: I'm not wearing a bra today. You know, you have 56 00:02:44,274 --> 00:02:47,234 Speaker 5: to make a fashion choice every day for footwear. 57 00:02:46,914 --> 00:02:49,194 Speaker 4: Unless you live where I live, where people get around 58 00:02:49,194 --> 00:02:52,474 Speaker 4: without shoes on. Because my husband does not wear shoes 59 00:02:52,754 --> 00:02:55,234 Speaker 4: in the supermarket, so that's the only caveat to that. 60 00:02:55,274 --> 00:02:58,554 Speaker 2: But yes, good point. Most people in normal society wear shoes. 61 00:02:59,794 --> 00:03:03,714 Speaker 5: But I love the saying that sneakers don't die, they cycle, 62 00:03:04,154 --> 00:03:06,514 Speaker 5: And that's actually from a book which I'll reference later on. 63 00:03:06,674 --> 00:03:10,514 Speaker 5: But don't die, they cycle. They're almost just put on ice. 64 00:03:10,634 --> 00:03:15,994 Speaker 5: And you're exactly right. There is this oversaturation of sneakers. 65 00:03:15,314 --> 00:03:17,834 Speaker 4: Because we had, if you think about it, going back, 66 00:03:17,874 --> 00:03:21,514 Speaker 4: like we've kind of had a trending sneaker every season, 67 00:03:21,634 --> 00:03:24,354 Speaker 4: or more than that, a couple of trending sneakers in 68 00:03:24,394 --> 00:03:26,794 Speaker 4: the zeitgeist for as long as I can remember. I 69 00:03:26,834 --> 00:03:28,954 Speaker 4: was racking my brain and thinking back to when this 70 00:03:29,034 --> 00:03:31,594 Speaker 4: kind of first started for me as a fashion writer. 71 00:03:31,714 --> 00:03:33,554 Speaker 4: And I mean we could go way, way way back, 72 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:35,594 Speaker 4: but I'm just talking about the last few years when 73 00:03:35,634 --> 00:03:38,154 Speaker 4: on social media it's really reached like a fever pitch. 74 00:03:38,314 --> 00:03:41,074 Speaker 4: Do you remember when Meghan Markle was spotted in those 75 00:03:41,554 --> 00:03:45,794 Speaker 4: major sneakers because they were vegan leather, everyone started. 76 00:03:45,434 --> 00:03:46,874 Speaker 3: Wearing age everyone. 77 00:03:47,074 --> 00:03:51,594 Speaker 4: To me, that felt like the first instance of Wow, 78 00:03:51,714 --> 00:03:54,274 Speaker 4: everyone's wearing this sneaker. Everyone wants their hot little hands 79 00:03:54,274 --> 00:03:56,874 Speaker 4: on it. And that was like the trigger point. And 80 00:03:56,914 --> 00:03:58,954 Speaker 4: then it was Okay, well, what's the next one going 81 00:03:58,994 --> 00:04:01,554 Speaker 4: to be? And then we had you know, new balanced 82 00:04:01,594 --> 00:04:03,794 Speaker 4: that it was the dad sneaker, that's exactly right. And 83 00:04:03,874 --> 00:04:08,034 Speaker 4: then it was the yeasy, foamy kind of big white sneaker, 84 00:04:08,074 --> 00:04:10,954 Speaker 4: the puffy sneaker, and then after that it entered added 85 00:04:11,034 --> 00:04:13,794 Speaker 4: us territory, and there's the sambas and there's just been 86 00:04:14,234 --> 00:04:16,993 Speaker 4: sneaker after sneaker after speaker, right, yeah. 87 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:19,354 Speaker 3: And that is how the sneaker economy works. 88 00:04:19,394 --> 00:04:23,193 Speaker 5: So there is a subculture, there's a cool shoe that 89 00:04:23,313 --> 00:04:26,833 Speaker 5: it cools shoe, and then there's this over consumption, over 90 00:04:27,594 --> 00:04:30,113 Speaker 5: purchasing of this shoe. There's the new Balance nine O 91 00:04:30,193 --> 00:04:33,234 Speaker 5: two o's. I remember purchasing those maybe five years ago. 92 00:04:33,474 --> 00:04:36,593 Speaker 5: I was on wait lists. I spent well over on 93 00:04:36,674 --> 00:04:38,833 Speaker 5: sort of shipping it from the States to get this shoe. 94 00:04:38,914 --> 00:04:41,633 Speaker 5: I was in Platypus down in my rural in Barrel 95 00:04:41,674 --> 00:04:44,033 Speaker 5: the other day and there it was sitting. 96 00:04:43,714 --> 00:04:44,193 Speaker 3: On the shelf. 97 00:04:44,274 --> 00:04:47,113 Speaker 2: So it's just successful. 98 00:04:46,474 --> 00:04:50,193 Speaker 5: That scarcity's gone, and that scarcity market works really well 99 00:04:50,234 --> 00:04:53,073 Speaker 5: in shoes and handbags, as we know. But it's that 100 00:04:53,154 --> 00:04:56,794 Speaker 5: scarcity market when it becomes sort of over produced and 101 00:04:57,113 --> 00:05:00,513 Speaker 5: consumed by the masses, it loses it's cool factor. And 102 00:05:00,553 --> 00:05:03,274 Speaker 5: that's what people love about sneakers, is that cool factor. 103 00:05:03,354 --> 00:05:08,074 Speaker 5: There's whole like ecosystems on the Internet devoted sneaker culture, 104 00:05:08,073 --> 00:05:11,153 Speaker 5: aren't there. There's like hype Beast and high Snabiety and 105 00:05:11,234 --> 00:05:14,394 Speaker 5: all these yeah, like for the sneakerheads, but they are 106 00:05:14,433 --> 00:05:17,834 Speaker 5: also like indicative of broader fashion trends that you know, 107 00:05:18,034 --> 00:05:22,914 Speaker 5: different sneaker trends will signal right, but this isn't a collapse. 108 00:05:22,953 --> 00:05:25,193 Speaker 5: I think that's important to note. It's just a cool 109 00:05:25,234 --> 00:05:29,473 Speaker 5: off period. And historically this is exactly what needs to 110 00:05:29,594 --> 00:05:33,193 Speaker 5: happen for that upswing of sneakers to become cooler ken 111 00:05:33,393 --> 00:05:35,514 Speaker 5: and maybe in like a year or so, a different 112 00:05:35,553 --> 00:05:37,273 Speaker 5: sort of shoe will come out and that will be 113 00:05:37,313 --> 00:05:41,034 Speaker 5: the issue. But like jeans, they're always evergreen. And there 114 00:05:41,034 --> 00:05:43,474 Speaker 5: are definitely some shoes like the Solomons that I'm wearing 115 00:05:43,474 --> 00:05:46,073 Speaker 5: today and they were spotted on Haley Beaver literally two 116 00:05:46,073 --> 00:05:51,034 Speaker 5: weeks ago, so they're still If you're a sneaky they're there. 117 00:05:51,154 --> 00:05:53,514 Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you know, you know things totally, they're 118 00:05:53,553 --> 00:05:56,034 Speaker 4: not going anywhere, they're just they're just cooling off. So 119 00:05:56,553 --> 00:05:59,714 Speaker 4: they're still relevant, definitely in a lot of circles. But 120 00:06:00,154 --> 00:06:02,953 Speaker 4: what styles are we wearing now and what's changed? I 121 00:06:02,993 --> 00:06:04,753 Speaker 4: really want to get into this, because, like you said, 122 00:06:04,753 --> 00:06:07,354 Speaker 4: they're definitely still around, but I feel like the look 123 00:06:07,393 --> 00:06:10,393 Speaker 4: of sneakers really shifted recently. The big one for me, 124 00:06:10,474 --> 00:06:14,154 Speaker 4: and this was so controversial when it first landed, like 125 00:06:14,234 --> 00:06:17,914 Speaker 4: across my desk as a fashion editor, and you know, 126 00:06:17,953 --> 00:06:20,354 Speaker 4: we wrote some funny articles about it and we teased it, 127 00:06:20,393 --> 00:06:23,993 Speaker 4: but it's actually like kind of come into the mass 128 00:06:24,034 --> 00:06:28,313 Speaker 4: sort of consciousness. Now is the quote unquote sneak arena. 129 00:06:28,433 --> 00:06:32,794 Speaker 4: So this is the basically the blending of two worlds 130 00:06:32,834 --> 00:06:38,073 Speaker 4: like ballet with technical sneaker sort of construction to create 131 00:06:38,313 --> 00:06:41,393 Speaker 4: a sneaker that's sort of like that low profile, maybe 132 00:06:41,393 --> 00:06:44,873 Speaker 4: a satin finish on it, like a traditional ballet shoe. 133 00:06:45,034 --> 00:06:48,674 Speaker 4: Hence the name sneak Arena. And now we've seen brands 134 00:06:48,753 --> 00:06:51,993 Speaker 4: like I think, sorry, I think the sort of starting 135 00:06:52,034 --> 00:06:55,474 Speaker 4: point for this shoe was really high bra brands like Whales, 136 00:06:55,513 --> 00:06:59,274 Speaker 4: Bonner and Simone Rocha coming out with influential styles. 137 00:06:58,914 --> 00:06:59,753 Speaker 2: That were the runway. 138 00:06:59,794 --> 00:07:02,354 Speaker 4: And then that's kind of trickled down to the likes of, 139 00:07:02,433 --> 00:07:05,314 Speaker 4: you know, a Nike in and added us doing shoes. 140 00:07:04,993 --> 00:07:08,873 Speaker 5: Like this, And it's interesting saying that hybrid ness that's 141 00:07:08,953 --> 00:07:11,234 Speaker 5: created for this episode. I was looking back in the 142 00:07:11,314 --> 00:07:14,474 Speaker 5: archives at Copenhagen Fashion Week and street Style, which they 143 00:07:14,474 --> 00:07:16,994 Speaker 5: are really like the early. 144 00:07:16,754 --> 00:07:18,874 Speaker 3: Adopters and the adapters of trends. 145 00:07:19,234 --> 00:07:22,153 Speaker 5: There were so many Mary Jane's, there were so many 146 00:07:22,354 --> 00:07:26,874 Speaker 5: ballerinashes that whole ballet core like a year or two ago, 147 00:07:27,154 --> 00:07:30,074 Speaker 5: and now it's sort of merged in Frankenstein into this 148 00:07:30,594 --> 00:07:35,514 Speaker 5: sneak arena. 149 00:07:33,314 --> 00:07:34,314 Speaker 3: And I love it. 150 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:37,354 Speaker 5: I love it because you can kind of lean either way, 151 00:07:37,434 --> 00:07:39,314 Speaker 5: like if you're more a Mary Jane, which is a 152 00:07:39,354 --> 00:07:43,554 Speaker 5: little bit more structure Sneakerlike there's one on the market 153 00:07:43,634 --> 00:07:46,794 Speaker 5: called that, it's the Puma Speedcat, so that leans more 154 00:07:46,794 --> 00:07:50,674 Speaker 5: Mary Jane. But there's also the Adidas Taekwondo Ballet sneaker, 155 00:07:50,714 --> 00:07:52,754 Speaker 5: which leans more ballet and is a little bit softer 156 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:53,594 Speaker 5: and feminine. 157 00:07:53,714 --> 00:07:55,393 Speaker 3: So depending your. 158 00:07:55,274 --> 00:07:58,874 Speaker 5: Style, it sort of is quite a broad category or trend. 159 00:07:59,114 --> 00:08:03,074 Speaker 4: And we're even seeing like the real feminization of sneakers 160 00:08:03,114 --> 00:08:06,434 Speaker 4: with like different brands adding like lace and different color 161 00:08:06,514 --> 00:08:12,074 Speaker 4: like dainty laces and sort of like pale pastal colored Swedes, 162 00:08:12,114 --> 00:08:12,713 Speaker 4: and that kind. 163 00:08:12,594 --> 00:08:15,034 Speaker 5: Of really nice because there is a bit of fatigue 164 00:08:15,074 --> 00:08:17,914 Speaker 5: of that masculine oversized tread. 165 00:08:18,554 --> 00:08:20,994 Speaker 3: Like the new balance it is masculine. 166 00:08:21,034 --> 00:08:23,234 Speaker 5: I always do feel I have to, like even today 167 00:08:23,393 --> 00:08:27,714 Speaker 5: with the Solomon shoes, quite masculine, baggy rip jeans, masculine. 168 00:08:27,714 --> 00:08:29,713 Speaker 5: I had to sort of pair it with a more 169 00:08:29,834 --> 00:08:34,473 Speaker 5: softer cami top for Gingham top to sort of like balance. 170 00:08:34,114 --> 00:08:34,833 Speaker 3: It out a little bit. 171 00:08:34,874 --> 00:08:38,593 Speaker 5: So it's nice having a softer sneaker esque feminine style 172 00:08:38,634 --> 00:08:39,513 Speaker 5: shoe available. 173 00:08:40,074 --> 00:08:41,994 Speaker 4: So the next one I want to discuss with you, 174 00:08:42,074 --> 00:08:45,874 Speaker 4: it's a really fresh, fresh off the press trend or 175 00:08:45,994 --> 00:08:46,674 Speaker 4: is it a trend? 176 00:08:46,914 --> 00:08:48,194 Speaker 2: I want to ask what you think. 177 00:08:48,634 --> 00:08:52,554 Speaker 4: I recently saw a street style image of Margo Robbie 178 00:08:52,594 --> 00:08:58,114 Speaker 4: wearing Converse high tops with jeans looking very cool. Do 179 00:08:58,154 --> 00:09:00,754 Speaker 4: we think that high tops are due for a return? 180 00:09:00,954 --> 00:09:03,314 Speaker 3: See? This is why I love speaking to you, Tam. 181 00:09:03,554 --> 00:09:06,994 Speaker 5: Being a fashion writer as you are, you're across what 182 00:09:07,234 --> 00:09:10,954 Speaker 5: celebrities are wearing, Grammys, red carpets and whatnot. So when 183 00:09:10,994 --> 00:09:12,794 Speaker 5: I saw this, when you said this, I was like, 184 00:09:12,834 --> 00:09:15,474 Speaker 5: what Converse, I'm not aware of this. 185 00:09:15,594 --> 00:09:17,274 Speaker 3: I went straight to the data. 186 00:09:17,394 --> 00:09:18,034 Speaker 2: Of course you did. 187 00:09:18,194 --> 00:09:21,194 Speaker 4: You're there's always data driven in your research. You like 188 00:09:21,234 --> 00:09:24,114 Speaker 4: to have the backup the facts. Yeah, And I was like, 189 00:09:24,234 --> 00:09:26,674 Speaker 4: is this actually going to be trending? And a CEO 190 00:09:26,754 --> 00:09:32,074 Speaker 4: which aggravates trend data. I looked at Australia alone for the. 191 00:09:32,034 --> 00:09:36,474 Speaker 5: Past two years, the searches for Converse high top had 192 00:09:36,554 --> 00:09:40,474 Speaker 5: two specific peaks. One was in March twenty five and 193 00:09:40,514 --> 00:09:43,074 Speaker 5: then November twenty five. So it's funny, like I was 194 00:09:43,114 --> 00:09:46,794 Speaker 5: wondering when Margole someone has worn this. But it's a 195 00:09:46,834 --> 00:09:49,914 Speaker 5: really great example of all it takes is for a 196 00:09:49,954 --> 00:09:52,994 Speaker 5: celebrity or a celebrity stylist to make a conscious decision 197 00:09:53,154 --> 00:09:55,833 Speaker 5: or maybe it's subconscious about just throwing on a pair 198 00:09:55,874 --> 00:09:58,714 Speaker 5: of Converse high tops to really thrust it back into 199 00:09:58,714 --> 00:09:59,434 Speaker 5: the zeitgeist. 200 00:09:59,434 --> 00:10:03,674 Speaker 4: Exactly one outfit can completely change the dial on what 201 00:10:03,714 --> 00:10:06,394 Speaker 4: we're all wearing. And that's how influential someone like a 202 00:10:06,474 --> 00:10:10,234 Speaker 4: Margo or a Hailey Beeber or a Zoe Kravitz can be. Right, 203 00:10:10,274 --> 00:10:13,994 Speaker 4: if Zoe Krabitt steps out in Converse next week and 204 00:10:14,074 --> 00:10:17,354 Speaker 4: doubles down that trend, I bet you all of a sudden, 205 00:10:17,594 --> 00:10:18,314 Speaker 4: everyone's going. 206 00:10:18,314 --> 00:10:19,194 Speaker 2: To be wearing them again. 207 00:10:19,474 --> 00:10:22,394 Speaker 5: Like you were saying, celebrities are a really good temperature check. 208 00:10:22,274 --> 00:10:23,554 Speaker 3: Like even with Solomon's. 209 00:10:24,834 --> 00:10:27,474 Speaker 5: Look where I'm from, no one really wears them, but 210 00:10:27,554 --> 00:10:30,754 Speaker 5: if I'm at an event, they are hitting almost that 211 00:10:30,874 --> 00:10:34,754 Speaker 5: oversaturation point. But I sort of checked Hailey Beeber, like 212 00:10:34,754 --> 00:10:37,394 Speaker 5: I said, was wearing them in January, and we had 213 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:39,554 Speaker 5: Jennifer Lawrence, she had them on in December. 214 00:10:39,714 --> 00:10:40,794 Speaker 3: It was December. 215 00:10:41,154 --> 00:10:44,634 Speaker 5: It's just sensing and temperature checking. Are they still relevant? 216 00:10:45,514 --> 00:10:47,794 Speaker 5: And you do use that as a little bit of 217 00:10:47,834 --> 00:10:48,714 Speaker 5: a check, but yeah. 218 00:10:48,514 --> 00:10:48,914 Speaker 3: That's how. 219 00:10:49,394 --> 00:10:51,713 Speaker 4: But I just want to challenge that for a second. 220 00:10:52,034 --> 00:10:55,234 Speaker 4: Is relevance the main factor here? Because if they're not, 221 00:10:55,634 --> 00:10:57,794 Speaker 4: would you still wear Like that's the question I have, 222 00:10:57,994 --> 00:11:00,954 Speaker 4: like are you wearing Salomons? And I don't mean you yeah, 223 00:11:01,274 --> 00:11:06,514 Speaker 4: are we wearing Salomon's because they're relevant or because we 224 00:11:06,594 --> 00:11:07,034 Speaker 4: love them? 225 00:11:07,434 --> 00:11:11,354 Speaker 3: I think it's a it's adjacent to like the Row girl. 226 00:11:11,474 --> 00:11:14,634 Speaker 5: It's if you know, you know, I think me walking 227 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:17,034 Speaker 5: down the street in George Street, it could it's any 228 00:11:17,074 --> 00:11:19,474 Speaker 5: old sneaker, but if a girl spots it and she's 229 00:11:19,514 --> 00:11:24,154 Speaker 5: a sneaker fashion girl, it's that sort of a signaling signal, 230 00:11:24,194 --> 00:11:24,954 Speaker 5: that's right. 231 00:11:24,834 --> 00:11:27,194 Speaker 2: It's signaling yeah. Isn't that so interesting? 232 00:11:27,194 --> 00:11:30,154 Speaker 4: Because if you isolate the piece itself, like if my 233 00:11:30,634 --> 00:11:33,474 Speaker 4: you know, if my mum saw those shoes, she. 234 00:11:33,434 --> 00:11:35,594 Speaker 2: Wouldn't get it right. But then, like you. 235 00:11:35,514 --> 00:11:37,914 Speaker 4: Said, if a fashion girl, he clocks the shoes like 236 00:11:37,954 --> 00:11:40,194 Speaker 4: there's an instant recognition that. 237 00:11:40,114 --> 00:11:42,274 Speaker 2: And I think so the Row is a really good example. 238 00:11:42,274 --> 00:11:45,434 Speaker 4: I've written about this in my Newslater before, Like particularly 239 00:11:45,474 --> 00:11:47,474 Speaker 4: if we talk I know we're talking about sneakers right now, 240 00:11:47,514 --> 00:11:49,034 Speaker 4: but if we look at I've spent a lot of 241 00:11:49,034 --> 00:11:53,354 Speaker 4: time writing and musing about their twelve hundred dollar thongs. 242 00:11:53,874 --> 00:11:55,074 Speaker 2: You knew what I was going to say. 243 00:11:55,114 --> 00:11:58,034 Speaker 4: This is hell, I will die on these thongs, these 244 00:11:58,114 --> 00:12:02,674 Speaker 4: rubber thongs that became the number one most searched for 245 00:12:02,794 --> 00:12:06,074 Speaker 4: most in demand accessory of twenty twenty five, a twelve 246 00:12:06,154 --> 00:12:08,834 Speaker 4: hundred dollars pair of that if you take them out 247 00:12:08,834 --> 00:12:11,554 Speaker 4: of the high fashion context in which they exist, off 248 00:12:11,594 --> 00:12:14,514 Speaker 4: the feet of every celebrity who wore them, and every 249 00:12:14,594 --> 00:12:17,474 Speaker 4: weight list that they were on, you know, on all 250 00:12:17,474 --> 00:12:21,914 Speaker 4: the major websites, that stop them and take away the scarcity. 251 00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:24,674 Speaker 4: Like you said, they are essentially just a pair of 252 00:12:24,754 --> 00:12:28,953 Speaker 4: rubber flip flops that you could get at lows, you know, absolutely, 253 00:12:29,154 --> 00:12:31,434 Speaker 4: And yes they've been duped. They're still now you can 254 00:12:31,474 --> 00:12:34,914 Speaker 4: get them at any number of high street stores, but 255 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:37,594 Speaker 4: the value is not there because they're not the row. Yeah, 256 00:12:37,634 --> 00:12:40,154 Speaker 4: but it just it just questions how the value that 257 00:12:40,194 --> 00:12:44,154 Speaker 4: we place on something that has that fashion cachet. 258 00:12:45,194 --> 00:12:47,634 Speaker 5: I guess with any sort of brands buying into that 259 00:12:47,794 --> 00:12:51,394 Speaker 5: luxury market, you are buying into that brand, right Yeah, 260 00:12:51,554 --> 00:12:53,634 Speaker 5: But yeah, I guess there is the relevancy of it. 261 00:12:53,674 --> 00:12:56,474 Speaker 5: But I also find like the practicality of a shoe 262 00:12:56,514 --> 00:12:59,634 Speaker 5: like this, and that actually leads us into the next 263 00:12:59,754 --> 00:13:02,354 Speaker 5: trend in shoe and sneaker that will be seeing and 264 00:13:02,394 --> 00:13:05,874 Speaker 5: it is this continued dominance in the Trail Sneaker. Like 265 00:13:06,274 --> 00:13:09,314 Speaker 5: the Solomon I love the practicality of them, like I 266 00:13:09,394 --> 00:13:12,194 Speaker 5: do wear these shoes to the gym as well as 267 00:13:12,234 --> 00:13:13,074 Speaker 5: out and about today. 268 00:13:13,074 --> 00:13:16,674 Speaker 4: They have a use there. There's a utility there, utility. 269 00:13:16,754 --> 00:13:18,914 Speaker 4: I'm like a sneak arena. That's maybe just like a 270 00:13:18,954 --> 00:13:21,274 Speaker 4: fashion shoe. Yeah, unless you're doing ballet in them. I 271 00:13:21,274 --> 00:13:25,474 Speaker 4: don't really know. I can't speak from experience, so you 272 00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:27,674 Speaker 4: can't hike in them, that's essentially what. 273 00:13:27,674 --> 00:13:30,714 Speaker 5: There's a bit of charm around that, Like I don't 274 00:13:30,714 --> 00:13:35,354 Speaker 5: think Hailey Beaver's hiking and like with in her Solomon's, 275 00:13:35,354 --> 00:13:37,314 Speaker 5: I don't think Jennifer Lawrence is out there as well, 276 00:13:37,354 --> 00:13:40,434 Speaker 5: like bushwalking. But there's a little bit of a charm 277 00:13:40,474 --> 00:13:42,954 Speaker 5: and creating a bit of like mystery in that story 278 00:13:42,994 --> 00:13:46,314 Speaker 5: about you, I guess like a dressing as a character 279 00:13:46,354 --> 00:13:49,114 Speaker 5: I suppose, which I've always enjoyed feel you on that. 280 00:13:50,234 --> 00:13:54,874 Speaker 5: With the trail Sneaker, it is a very like polarizing shoe. 281 00:13:54,874 --> 00:13:56,354 Speaker 3: You either love it or you hate it. 282 00:13:56,794 --> 00:14:00,514 Speaker 5: And Solomons are definitely sticking around, but there are going 283 00:14:00,594 --> 00:14:04,314 Speaker 5: to be some slight variations in this category, so buckle 284 00:14:04,434 --> 00:14:09,674 Speaker 5: in Tamany, you're at home, because it's definitely not for everyone. 285 00:14:10,354 --> 00:14:14,794 Speaker 5: And Joshua Kate, who's the senior buyer at Hype DC 286 00:14:14,994 --> 00:14:18,634 Speaker 5: in Melbourne, he was saying last week that water shoes 287 00:14:18,714 --> 00:14:23,394 Speaker 5: and approach shoes are an early trend alert for what's 288 00:14:23,434 --> 00:14:24,834 Speaker 5: coming up in twenty twenty. 289 00:14:24,994 --> 00:14:25,714 Speaker 2: What's an approach And. 290 00:14:25,714 --> 00:14:28,394 Speaker 5: I was like, I beg your pardon Google, what's an 291 00:14:28,394 --> 00:14:32,954 Speaker 5: approach shoe? It is quite literally like a rock climbing shoe, 292 00:14:33,194 --> 00:14:34,034 Speaker 5: like a toe shoe. 293 00:14:34,354 --> 00:14:37,074 Speaker 3: Well that's where my head went. That's a variation of it. 294 00:14:37,114 --> 00:14:39,914 Speaker 5: But it doesn't have to be a toe shoe. 295 00:14:41,074 --> 00:14:41,514 Speaker 3: So if he. 296 00:14:41,554 --> 00:14:45,794 Speaker 5: Almost emulates that sneak arena where it's the low profile, 297 00:14:46,034 --> 00:14:49,114 Speaker 5: so it's it's your typical hiking shoe, but it's a 298 00:14:49,114 --> 00:14:52,474 Speaker 5: lower profile, it's less rubber sol it's seen, it's got 299 00:14:52,474 --> 00:14:55,034 Speaker 5: that flexibility as if you were sort of rock climbing. 300 00:14:55,514 --> 00:14:57,474 Speaker 3: So if it were streamlined on the foot. 301 00:14:57,674 --> 00:15:01,274 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe it's called an approach shoe because you can 302 00:15:01,394 --> 00:15:02,914 Speaker 4: like approach quietly. 303 00:15:02,954 --> 00:15:06,554 Speaker 3: Potentially something I don't know, that's a funny to look 304 00:15:06,594 --> 00:15:07,714 Speaker 3: at it. Sneaker. 305 00:15:07,794 --> 00:15:11,794 Speaker 5: The name sneaker came from sneaking up playing basketball. 306 00:15:11,234 --> 00:15:13,434 Speaker 2: Stop it. Oh my god, I might be onto. 307 00:15:13,274 --> 00:15:16,234 Speaker 3: Something, so potentially I'm never reaching quietly. 308 00:15:17,674 --> 00:15:19,314 Speaker 4: I love how you said that, like you were reading 309 00:15:19,314 --> 00:15:22,354 Speaker 4: a children's book reaching quietly. 310 00:15:22,994 --> 00:15:25,834 Speaker 5: So, yeah, this is going to be a trend, a 311 00:15:25,994 --> 00:15:28,674 Speaker 5: very again early adoption stage. We're not going to be 312 00:15:28,714 --> 00:15:32,954 Speaker 5: seeing I'm not walking in next episode recording wearing the approaches, 313 00:15:32,994 --> 00:15:34,954 Speaker 5: I don't think, but you never know. I never thought 314 00:15:34,994 --> 00:15:37,114 Speaker 5: I'd be wearing Solomon's. I could be in the I think. 315 00:15:36,994 --> 00:15:38,714 Speaker 2: They might be growing on me the more I look 316 00:15:38,754 --> 00:15:39,194 Speaker 2: at them. 317 00:15:39,274 --> 00:15:41,354 Speaker 3: Do you think you'll buy into the approach? 318 00:15:45,554 --> 00:15:48,914 Speaker 5: But last thing within the trail sneaker if anyone is 319 00:15:48,954 --> 00:15:51,954 Speaker 5: listening and they do like this trend, like myself, but 320 00:15:52,034 --> 00:15:54,914 Speaker 5: you know, Solomon's Assex is another example where there's sort 321 00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:57,514 Speaker 5: of a lot of them in the market. If you're 322 00:15:57,514 --> 00:16:00,834 Speaker 5: looking for a different brand, I would suggest Antus. It's 323 00:16:01,194 --> 00:16:03,354 Speaker 5: a new brand alert for twenty twenty six. It's one 324 00:16:03,394 --> 00:16:06,274 Speaker 5: of the fastest growing sneaker brands out there, and that's 325 00:16:06,274 --> 00:16:06,834 Speaker 5: from stock. 326 00:16:07,794 --> 00:16:08,714 Speaker 3: It's not a new. 327 00:16:08,594 --> 00:16:11,114 Speaker 5: Brand per se, like launch to market. It's actually been 328 00:16:11,154 --> 00:16:13,634 Speaker 5: around for twenty years. But that's like the Solomons and 329 00:16:13,674 --> 00:16:16,034 Speaker 5: New Balance it's just had that relevancy. 330 00:16:15,794 --> 00:16:19,154 Speaker 2: Rediscovered and yeah, you'd actually really like it. I had 331 00:16:19,154 --> 00:16:19,674 Speaker 2: a look. 332 00:16:20,274 --> 00:16:22,834 Speaker 4: I had a little look at Anta and I love 333 00:16:23,434 --> 00:16:28,674 Speaker 4: so they're like swed brightly colored sneakers, not reinventing the 334 00:16:28,674 --> 00:16:31,394 Speaker 4: wheel in that regard, but they've got a trio. 335 00:16:31,194 --> 00:16:33,874 Speaker 2: Of multi colored laces on the top. 336 00:16:33,914 --> 00:16:37,754 Speaker 4: And I think that speaks to the ability for accessory 337 00:16:37,794 --> 00:16:41,034 Speaker 4: brand potentially to cut through just with a unique design, 338 00:16:41,354 --> 00:16:45,394 Speaker 4: because that's not necessarily doing anything like completely new. It's 339 00:16:45,514 --> 00:16:48,234 Speaker 4: just like something that looks fresh to our eye, and 340 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:50,634 Speaker 4: it's a new concept that we haven't seen in a while, 341 00:16:50,674 --> 00:16:54,394 Speaker 4: like oh, personalizing your laces or colorful laces look so 342 00:16:54,474 --> 00:16:57,274 Speaker 4: fresh right now. No one's really doing that, and all 343 00:16:57,274 --> 00:16:59,314 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you've got to hit a hit shoe 344 00:16:59,474 --> 00:17:02,314 Speaker 4: except brand. So I love these, I want those. 345 00:17:02,594 --> 00:17:05,194 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, yeah, they're a great brand. If interested, will 346 00:17:05,234 --> 00:17:07,913 Speaker 5: link them in the show notes. All in all, if 347 00:17:07,954 --> 00:17:10,954 Speaker 5: you are interested in diffing your toe into this trend 348 00:17:10,954 --> 00:17:13,274 Speaker 5: of the trail sneaker. 349 00:17:13,474 --> 00:17:14,234 Speaker 3: I would look. 350 00:17:14,354 --> 00:17:18,394 Speaker 5: I would opt out of that big oversized tread footing 351 00:17:18,674 --> 00:17:19,594 Speaker 5: like a new balance. 352 00:17:20,594 --> 00:17:20,874 Speaker 2: Look. 353 00:17:21,354 --> 00:17:23,114 Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you sometimes just get the 354 00:17:23,154 --> 00:17:24,194 Speaker 3: ick with shoes? 355 00:17:24,234 --> 00:17:26,554 Speaker 5: Like if you see them too much on the streets, 356 00:17:26,594 --> 00:17:28,513 Speaker 5: You're like, oh, I just stop't knowwhare them. It's the 357 00:17:28,554 --> 00:17:31,434 Speaker 5: oversaturation of the new balance and sumbers off for something 358 00:17:31,554 --> 00:17:32,954 Speaker 5: like the ant or a sneaker. 359 00:17:33,114 --> 00:17:35,674 Speaker 4: Sneaker, Ina, yeah, go a little left of the mainstream. 360 00:17:35,834 --> 00:17:38,274 Speaker 4: I think that's probably the answer. Something that I've been 361 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:41,273 Speaker 4: noticing a lot and even writing about lately is the 362 00:17:41,954 --> 00:17:44,114 Speaker 4: it's not so much a trend, more of like a 363 00:17:44,194 --> 00:17:48,634 Speaker 4: styling trick, which is to add one quote unquote wrong element. 364 00:17:48,274 --> 00:17:48,994 Speaker 2: To your outfit. 365 00:17:49,354 --> 00:17:51,834 Speaker 4: So we know about the wrong shoe theory, right, which 366 00:17:51,874 --> 00:17:55,914 Speaker 4: is essentially about adding something that feels visually a bit 367 00:17:55,954 --> 00:17:58,314 Speaker 4: wrong to offset your outfits. So it's not all kind 368 00:17:58,354 --> 00:18:00,754 Speaker 4: of streamlined, and in one that it might kind of 369 00:18:00,794 --> 00:18:05,234 Speaker 4: mix genres. You might apply something that just feels off, 370 00:18:05,354 --> 00:18:07,714 Speaker 4: but in an intentional way. And I think you can 371 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:11,114 Speaker 4: really use sneakers or shoes to apply that concept to 372 00:18:11,154 --> 00:18:13,513 Speaker 4: your look. And that's where like you've even done that 373 00:18:13,554 --> 00:18:15,394 Speaker 4: today with the Salomon, you know, but you've got a 374 00:18:15,434 --> 00:18:19,354 Speaker 4: feminine top on rather than choosing something dainty that might 375 00:18:19,434 --> 00:18:20,594 Speaker 4: work back with the top. 376 00:18:20,794 --> 00:18:22,033 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that. 377 00:18:22,194 --> 00:18:24,994 Speaker 5: I think I do that subconsciously, like the shoe the 378 00:18:25,034 --> 00:18:27,954 Speaker 5: sneaker is the anchor of my outfits. So last night 379 00:18:27,994 --> 00:18:29,834 Speaker 5: I knew I'd be wearing the Solomons, but it was 380 00:18:29,874 --> 00:18:32,874 Speaker 5: this morning, it was that was the focal point of 381 00:18:32,914 --> 00:18:35,434 Speaker 5: my outfit. I grabbed the jeans, I grabbed the top 382 00:18:35,474 --> 00:18:38,034 Speaker 5: out of the dirty washing basket, and ran like it 383 00:18:38,074 --> 00:18:41,074 Speaker 5: wasn't it didn't really matter. The rest felt irrelevant to me. 384 00:18:41,274 --> 00:18:43,394 Speaker 5: He started with the shoe, started with the shoe. 385 00:18:43,714 --> 00:18:45,834 Speaker 4: After the break, we're gonna have a chat about the 386 00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:49,074 Speaker 4: sneaker economy and how that influences everything we wear. And 387 00:18:49,114 --> 00:18:51,994 Speaker 4: then if you're not a sneak ahead like Lucinder, and 388 00:18:52,034 --> 00:18:55,114 Speaker 4: if you're looking for alternatives to wear on your feet 389 00:18:55,354 --> 00:18:57,794 Speaker 4: like me, don't worry. We've got you covered with heaps 390 00:18:57,794 --> 00:19:00,194 Speaker 4: of options for the upcoming autumn winter season. 391 00:19:00,274 --> 00:19:11,314 Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that, all right. 392 00:19:11,434 --> 00:19:13,553 Speaker 5: So I would love us to have a little peek 393 00:19:13,554 --> 00:19:16,714 Speaker 5: inside of the sneaker economy. I won't spend too much 394 00:19:16,714 --> 00:19:19,513 Speaker 5: time on this, just in case all those people's interest, 395 00:19:19,674 --> 00:19:20,434 Speaker 5: but it's quite. 396 00:19:20,394 --> 00:19:21,274 Speaker 2: You get a nerd out. 397 00:19:21,754 --> 00:19:25,474 Speaker 5: Basically, he's so fascinating, And just to sort of sum 398 00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:27,674 Speaker 5: it up with a couple of key points that I 399 00:19:27,754 --> 00:19:31,754 Speaker 5: find incredible and remarkable. There is a two point two 400 00:19:31,954 --> 00:19:33,874 Speaker 5: million dollar pair of sneakers out there. 401 00:19:34,114 --> 00:19:35,994 Speaker 3: Admittedly it is the Michael Air. 402 00:19:35,954 --> 00:19:38,834 Speaker 5: Jordan game shoe, So it's almost a little it's cheating 403 00:19:38,834 --> 00:19:40,954 Speaker 5: in a little way because it's almost a piece of art. 404 00:19:41,034 --> 00:19:43,994 Speaker 3: Right, Someone's got this in a clear box on display. 405 00:19:43,954 --> 00:19:44,874 Speaker 2: Yeah they're not wearing that. 406 00:19:44,954 --> 00:19:46,033 Speaker 3: Yeah they're not wearing that. 407 00:19:46,114 --> 00:19:47,674 Speaker 2: So what is it about this shoe that makes it 408 00:19:47,714 --> 00:19:48,434 Speaker 2: so valuable? 409 00:19:48,554 --> 00:19:52,234 Speaker 5: This particular one was a Michael Jordan Air game shoe 410 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:55,914 Speaker 5: that he wore, right, So, but putting that one aside, 411 00:19:56,394 --> 00:19:58,634 Speaker 5: there are shoes out there which I almost relate a 412 00:19:58,674 --> 00:20:02,273 Speaker 5: little bit too, like the Ermez Burken. So there's a 413 00:20:02,394 --> 00:20:05,154 Speaker 5: Nike Moonshoe out there for four hundred and thirty seven 414 00:20:05,194 --> 00:20:08,554 Speaker 5: thousand dollars. There are some Burkins out there, one off 415 00:20:08,754 --> 00:20:11,314 Speaker 5: the rarity of them that can get to that price. 416 00:20:11,434 --> 00:20:14,194 Speaker 4: And you mean that's at retail. That's not like someone's 417 00:20:14,274 --> 00:20:16,114 Speaker 4: valued it at that. It's like you can still buy 418 00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:18,234 Speaker 4: the sneaker for four hundred thousand dollars. 419 00:20:18,394 --> 00:20:21,553 Speaker 5: So this one is on the stock X for that price. 420 00:20:21,714 --> 00:20:23,754 Speaker 5: In terms of how much a sneaker can get to, 421 00:20:23,954 --> 00:20:26,874 Speaker 5: people are still paying two hundred thousand dollars four pairs 422 00:20:26,874 --> 00:20:29,714 Speaker 5: of shoes with that rarity on the market, and that 423 00:20:29,754 --> 00:20:32,474 Speaker 5: can come down to whether it be a collaboration with 424 00:20:32,514 --> 00:20:35,914 Speaker 5: a particular celebrity or a brand as well. So a 425 00:20:35,954 --> 00:20:39,874 Speaker 5: couple of brands and luxury brands love partnering with sneakers, 426 00:20:40,194 --> 00:20:43,074 Speaker 5: so Gucci and added Us, for example, we know Molly 427 00:20:43,154 --> 00:20:45,234 Speaker 5: may is coming out with her own collection of Added 428 00:20:45,234 --> 00:20:48,593 Speaker 5: Our sombers in the what the Marcha or the Latte 429 00:20:49,834 --> 00:20:54,273 Speaker 5: color that's so her coated, Still Sander with the Puma 430 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:54,954 Speaker 5: King sneaker. 431 00:20:54,994 --> 00:20:57,314 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. I loved your sand Yeah, I thought 432 00:20:57,354 --> 00:21:00,474 Speaker 2: you've seen. Yeah, they're very big, woolen. 433 00:21:00,594 --> 00:21:04,394 Speaker 5: Cheap and yeah, neutral colors. And then the Nike Jakamu's 434 00:21:04,394 --> 00:21:08,794 Speaker 5: Moon shoe and these sort of brands they become these 435 00:21:08,834 --> 00:21:13,834 Speaker 5: shoes become collectible items, and so many famous celebrities collected 436 00:21:13,914 --> 00:21:18,874 Speaker 5: these beautiful shoes. One including and worth noting is Kylie Jenner. Right, really, 437 00:21:18,994 --> 00:21:22,394 Speaker 5: so her collection is valued at approximately five hundred to 438 00:21:22,474 --> 00:21:25,114 Speaker 5: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and she's. 439 00:21:24,914 --> 00:21:26,394 Speaker 2: Got like three pairs of shoes. 440 00:21:26,474 --> 00:21:26,634 Speaker 3: Right. 441 00:21:28,554 --> 00:21:30,754 Speaker 5: The funny thing I find about this because it often 442 00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:35,033 Speaker 5: is male collectors, So it's nice seeing a young woman 443 00:21:35,114 --> 00:21:37,554 Speaker 5: collecting shoes. But she's got a whole collection of both 444 00:21:37,634 --> 00:21:39,234 Speaker 5: male and female shoes, which. 445 00:21:39,074 --> 00:21:40,074 Speaker 3: I find really interesting. 446 00:21:40,154 --> 00:21:43,634 Speaker 5: So never any intention of wearing the male sneakers, but 447 00:21:43,714 --> 00:21:45,234 Speaker 5: wants them as a collectible item. 448 00:21:45,514 --> 00:21:46,314 Speaker 2: That is interesting. 449 00:21:46,314 --> 00:21:48,513 Speaker 4: I wonder if that's something she did more in her youth, 450 00:21:48,634 --> 00:21:51,594 Speaker 4: because now I feel like she showcases her like bag 451 00:21:51,674 --> 00:21:55,194 Speaker 4: collection a lot, and you see glimpses into her wardrobe 452 00:21:55,274 --> 00:21:58,194 Speaker 4: on her socials, but I've never seen her if it's 453 00:21:58,234 --> 00:22:00,834 Speaker 4: going to dedicate content to her sneaker collection. Is it 454 00:22:00,874 --> 00:22:03,234 Speaker 4: in some vaults somewhere else? Was that something she started 455 00:22:03,274 --> 00:22:04,994 Speaker 4: because she used to wear like high tops and things 456 00:22:04,994 --> 00:22:08,434 Speaker 4: when she was blue hair when Yeah, that king Kylie era, 457 00:22:08,834 --> 00:22:11,513 Speaker 4: And I wonder if that's like a relic of past Kylie. 458 00:22:11,514 --> 00:22:14,394 Speaker 4: But it's such a good investment, you know, it's a 459 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:17,554 Speaker 4: financial decision. Or maybe if it's something she's continued more 460 00:22:17,594 --> 00:22:18,793 Speaker 4: into her adulthood. 461 00:22:18,954 --> 00:22:20,994 Speaker 3: And I bet Timothy Shallooney would love that. 462 00:22:21,314 --> 00:22:24,354 Speaker 4: Oh my god, tim are they He just lurks and 463 00:22:24,394 --> 00:22:27,354 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm gonna wear these oscars. Yeah, But it's funny, 464 00:22:27,394 --> 00:22:30,154 Speaker 4: like if they're the same shoes, maybe that doesn't matter, 465 00:22:30,834 --> 00:22:32,474 Speaker 4: but these like but if. 466 00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:35,154 Speaker 3: You're collecting Burkens and you know these people, do. 467 00:22:35,154 --> 00:22:38,474 Speaker 5: Your bags like you'd always, I guess have the intention 468 00:22:38,634 --> 00:22:41,273 Speaker 5: of maybe wearing them a one off to some gala 469 00:22:41,354 --> 00:22:44,434 Speaker 5: or something. But to be collecting things at that value 470 00:22:44,714 --> 00:22:47,634 Speaker 5: and no intention of wearing them I find really interesting. 471 00:22:47,754 --> 00:22:49,434 Speaker 5: But yeah, I do find all in all, it's just 472 00:22:49,434 --> 00:22:52,474 Speaker 5: a really interesting look at something that was created out 473 00:22:52,474 --> 00:22:56,554 Speaker 5: of a subculture. If you want more information on sneakers, 474 00:22:57,114 --> 00:22:59,273 Speaker 5: there's two really great books that will link in the 475 00:22:59,314 --> 00:23:03,034 Speaker 5: show notes. It's Sneakers, Fashion Gendering, subculture and Sneconomics. 476 00:23:03,034 --> 00:23:03,674 Speaker 3: I'll leave it there. 477 00:23:03,874 --> 00:23:06,034 Speaker 4: I'm really glad you got a chance to talk about 478 00:23:06,034 --> 00:23:07,714 Speaker 4: your sneaker isses. 479 00:23:07,794 --> 00:23:11,514 Speaker 5: But like you said at the top of the episode, Tam, 480 00:23:11,794 --> 00:23:16,474 Speaker 5: there is a slight decline, and I think the overarching 481 00:23:16,714 --> 00:23:19,194 Speaker 5: reason for this is there's so many inroads of new 482 00:23:19,274 --> 00:23:23,674 Speaker 5: varieties of footwear. There's the Mary Jane's, there's flip flops, 483 00:23:23,794 --> 00:23:27,994 Speaker 5: there's mules. So yes, sneakers are on the decline. But 484 00:23:28,194 --> 00:23:31,674 Speaker 5: stock x, which is like an online marketplace for resale, 485 00:23:32,474 --> 00:23:34,834 Speaker 5: it's not just shoes, it's accessories and stuff as well. 486 00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:38,914 Speaker 5: They're twenty twenty five report showed for the second year straight. 487 00:23:39,354 --> 00:23:42,634 Speaker 5: Ugs come in first place and Crocs come in second. 488 00:23:42,634 --> 00:23:45,834 Speaker 5: They hold the top spots for the best selling brands. 489 00:23:47,114 --> 00:23:52,234 Speaker 5: What's rising up the rags is Timberland's Oh interesting. 490 00:23:52,994 --> 00:23:56,074 Speaker 4: These are like shoes for the people, aren't they. There's 491 00:23:56,154 --> 00:24:00,994 Speaker 4: nothing niche about Crocs or Ugs or Timberland that matter 492 00:24:01,154 --> 00:24:04,234 Speaker 4: to me. That just speaks to like what the people 493 00:24:04,274 --> 00:24:05,194 Speaker 4: are really wearing. 494 00:24:05,394 --> 00:24:08,594 Speaker 5: Well, I'd love to hear your thoughts on other shoe options. 495 00:24:08,674 --> 00:24:10,234 Speaker 3: Yes, you're not into sneaking. 496 00:24:10,034 --> 00:24:12,794 Speaker 2: You know what. And I think that makes a lot 497 00:24:12,794 --> 00:24:13,154 Speaker 2: of sense. 498 00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:14,754 Speaker 4: It makes a lot of sense that the market hasn't 499 00:24:14,794 --> 00:24:16,434 Speaker 4: more of an appetite for that right now, because I 500 00:24:16,434 --> 00:24:18,114 Speaker 4: think it's just this is what I see time and 501 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:22,434 Speaker 4: time again as a fashion writer an editor. It's literally 502 00:24:22,634 --> 00:24:25,554 Speaker 4: just the pendulum swings back and forth, like as soon 503 00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:28,434 Speaker 4: as our eye gets too used to seeing something, we 504 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,714 Speaker 4: go the other way. We go left when it's been 505 00:24:30,794 --> 00:24:33,194 Speaker 4: right and vice versa, and so we've seen too much 506 00:24:33,234 --> 00:24:35,794 Speaker 4: sneaker and now we want our eye wants to see 507 00:24:35,794 --> 00:24:36,354 Speaker 4: something else. 508 00:24:36,354 --> 00:24:37,634 Speaker 2: It's classic. It's a classic. 509 00:24:37,874 --> 00:24:40,513 Speaker 4: It's you know, when there's dopamine dressing and brites, we 510 00:24:40,594 --> 00:24:43,514 Speaker 4: go to neutrals and minimal and then you know, when 511 00:24:43,514 --> 00:24:45,434 Speaker 4: we got too used to what was what was it 512 00:24:45,554 --> 00:24:49,274 Speaker 4: quiet luxury, then we went right back to maximalism. Yeah, 513 00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:52,994 Speaker 4: different things, right, So this is just classic you know, 514 00:24:53,194 --> 00:24:54,394 Speaker 4: group think behavior. 515 00:24:54,434 --> 00:24:55,834 Speaker 2: This is exactly what fashion does. 516 00:24:55,914 --> 00:24:58,354 Speaker 4: So, you know, in terms of alternatives, though, let's talk 517 00:24:58,394 --> 00:25:01,234 Speaker 4: on a really practical level. I'm not really a sneaker 518 00:25:01,274 --> 00:25:04,754 Speaker 4: goal like, I have maybe two pairs in my wardrobe. 519 00:25:05,274 --> 00:25:09,594 Speaker 4: So in terms of alternatives, you know, we're in February now, 520 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:13,114 Speaker 4: we're about to head into autumn, which means we're heading 521 00:25:13,154 --> 00:25:17,634 Speaker 4: into closed in shoe season. So let's talk about the 522 00:25:17,674 --> 00:25:21,914 Speaker 4: styles that are practical but still trending for the season ahead. 523 00:25:22,434 --> 00:25:27,194 Speaker 4: For me, it's ankle boots and boots in general. Like, 524 00:25:27,354 --> 00:25:31,554 Speaker 4: nothing beats a sleek, black leather or swede ankle boot 525 00:25:31,634 --> 00:25:35,954 Speaker 4: in winter in terms of wear ability, especially with the 526 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:38,674 Speaker 4: return of like this sort of cigarette style jean that 527 00:25:38,714 --> 00:25:41,994 Speaker 4: we're seeing, I just think that's such an elegant shoe 528 00:25:42,074 --> 00:25:45,273 Speaker 4: choice and it's such a classic choice that really for 529 00:25:45,354 --> 00:25:46,394 Speaker 4: me never dates. 530 00:25:46,954 --> 00:25:49,914 Speaker 3: So do you wear your ankle boots un tucked into 531 00:25:49,914 --> 00:25:50,394 Speaker 3: the jeans? 532 00:25:50,434 --> 00:25:50,794 Speaker 2: How are you? 533 00:25:51,634 --> 00:25:51,714 Speaker 3: No? 534 00:25:51,874 --> 00:25:55,114 Speaker 2: I wear them under Yeah, yeah, I wear an ankle boots. 535 00:25:55,354 --> 00:25:59,594 Speaker 4: I ever been an ankle boot gale territory that surprises me. 536 00:25:59,914 --> 00:26:02,474 Speaker 4: So the other boot trend I'm seeing around a bit 537 00:26:02,474 --> 00:26:04,313 Speaker 4: that I think will come into our market is the 538 00:26:04,354 --> 00:26:06,914 Speaker 4: calf length boot. This is a little bit more of 539 00:26:06,954 --> 00:26:10,194 Speaker 4: a challenging silhouette. I'm only saying that because I think 540 00:26:10,594 --> 00:26:13,634 Speaker 4: like the intention of a calf length boot you kind 541 00:26:13,634 --> 00:26:17,794 Speaker 4: of got to sort of tribes here. For me, one 542 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:21,194 Speaker 4: is like you're wearing them to a festival, right, That's 543 00:26:21,234 --> 00:26:23,674 Speaker 4: what I conjure up with a calf length boot. You 544 00:26:23,714 --> 00:26:25,794 Speaker 4: know that is I think there's a brand called Fry, 545 00:26:26,674 --> 00:26:28,754 Speaker 4: and there's a brand called Hunter, and they do like 546 00:26:28,834 --> 00:26:32,034 Speaker 4: the you know, traditional Willington boot. 547 00:26:32,994 --> 00:26:34,474 Speaker 2: Or you're a real. 548 00:26:34,354 --> 00:26:37,274 Speaker 4: Fashion girl and you're wearing them with like what we're 549 00:26:37,274 --> 00:26:41,274 Speaker 4: calling an awkward length skirt, so that skirt that sort 550 00:26:41,274 --> 00:26:43,914 Speaker 4: of comes to them to the knee, and then you're 551 00:26:43,954 --> 00:26:47,074 Speaker 4: putting the boot, the calf length boot with it to 552 00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:51,634 Speaker 4: sort of intentionally create a quite directional silhouette in your out. 553 00:26:51,874 --> 00:26:53,874 Speaker 2: I love the challenge. 554 00:26:53,874 --> 00:26:54,273 Speaker 3: I love it. 555 00:26:54,594 --> 00:26:56,914 Speaker 5: I actually did a TikTok the other day on trends 556 00:26:56,914 --> 00:27:00,114 Speaker 5: will be seeing in Autumn, and it was the it's 557 00:27:00,154 --> 00:27:03,914 Speaker 5: the jeans almost like jeans or I should say trousers 558 00:27:04,394 --> 00:27:07,714 Speaker 5: with the car the boot over the top like that 559 00:27:07,834 --> 00:27:10,394 Speaker 5: hunter boot, like the gum boot. But then there's like 560 00:27:10,594 --> 00:27:13,033 Speaker 5: you put it above or over the top of the pans. 561 00:27:13,114 --> 00:27:13,793 Speaker 2: Would you do that? 562 00:27:14,034 --> 00:27:14,594 Speaker 3: Yeah? I would. 563 00:27:14,594 --> 00:27:17,714 Speaker 5: Well, it's almost like a country like a shooting esque vibe. 564 00:27:17,914 --> 00:27:19,634 Speaker 2: Yes, it is very talented with. 565 00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:23,754 Speaker 3: An oversized blaser as well, like, yeah. 566 00:27:23,994 --> 00:27:29,394 Speaker 5: It's quite Ralph Florini princesses seeing this a little bit more. Yeah, 567 00:27:29,434 --> 00:27:32,434 Speaker 5: it doesn't have to go so like countryesque. It could 568 00:27:32,434 --> 00:27:35,114 Speaker 5: be like I've seen it still, like something the cement 569 00:27:35,194 --> 00:27:36,513 Speaker 5: in the city top the urban. 570 00:27:36,634 --> 00:27:39,714 Speaker 4: I'm not doing the awkward length skirt, which is, like 571 00:27:39,754 --> 00:27:42,634 Speaker 4: I said, a little bit more challenging. I would do 572 00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:45,954 Speaker 4: a midi skirt over the top of a calf length boot, 573 00:27:46,234 --> 00:27:47,514 Speaker 4: potentially a boot with a bit. 574 00:27:47,434 --> 00:27:48,234 Speaker 2: Of shrug in it. 575 00:27:48,354 --> 00:27:50,394 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like a Swede boot that's got a 576 00:27:50,434 --> 00:27:53,074 Speaker 4: bit of that extra shrug so that you're kind of 577 00:27:53,074 --> 00:27:55,714 Speaker 4: getting the interplay of the different textures. Perhaps you've got 578 00:27:55,714 --> 00:27:58,114 Speaker 4: like a textured skirt or a sheer you know, back 579 00:27:58,154 --> 00:28:00,834 Speaker 4: with or a longer denim skirt or something back with 580 00:28:00,834 --> 00:28:03,554 Speaker 4: a Swede boot. Could be really really cool. Love this, 581 00:28:03,834 --> 00:28:07,074 Speaker 4: and then in terms of other alternative footwear to sneak 582 00:28:07,154 --> 00:28:10,074 Speaker 4: because I still feel like we're in our like what 583 00:28:10,114 --> 00:28:14,234 Speaker 4: I'm calling our fancy flat here, particularly in our market 584 00:28:14,274 --> 00:28:17,033 Speaker 4: in Australia, we really responded to the trend for like 585 00:28:17,154 --> 00:28:22,474 Speaker 4: mesh and woven flats. I'm seeing every brand footwear brands, 586 00:28:22,474 --> 00:28:26,714 Speaker 4: but also just like Australian designers offer woven flats and 587 00:28:26,754 --> 00:28:29,914 Speaker 4: I think they're quite a good trans seasonal shoe because 588 00:28:29,914 --> 00:28:32,274 Speaker 4: you still get that coverage on the front of your foot, 589 00:28:32,274 --> 00:28:34,994 Speaker 4: but it's breathable, right for our autumn winter where you 590 00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:37,354 Speaker 4: you know, we're not in New York or London, like 591 00:28:37,394 --> 00:28:39,874 Speaker 4: we don't need necessarily to be wearing socks under our 592 00:28:40,394 --> 00:28:43,354 Speaker 4: under our closed in shoes until the dead of winter. 593 00:28:43,674 --> 00:28:46,394 Speaker 5: Do you find that's almostly adjacent to the sticker, like 594 00:28:46,434 --> 00:28:49,234 Speaker 5: that is the focal point of an outfit, the maresh 595 00:28:49,314 --> 00:28:49,914 Speaker 5: or like those. 596 00:28:50,034 --> 00:28:52,834 Speaker 4: Yeah, it gives a little point of interest, right. So 597 00:28:52,954 --> 00:28:56,354 Speaker 4: just to recap a few sneaker alternatives coming into the 598 00:28:56,434 --> 00:28:58,514 Speaker 4: new season, we're going to see the return of ankle 599 00:28:58,554 --> 00:29:02,234 Speaker 4: boots and definitely this calf length boot which we love 600 00:29:02,634 --> 00:29:04,714 Speaker 4: that you can definitely still get a lot of wear 601 00:29:04,794 --> 00:29:08,034 Speaker 4: out of ballet flats. I'm seeing healed flat I didn't 602 00:29:08,034 --> 00:29:10,234 Speaker 4: mention healed ballet flats for a trend we're going to 603 00:29:10,314 --> 00:29:14,434 Speaker 4: see and then you're sort of woven and mesh flats 604 00:29:14,474 --> 00:29:17,154 Speaker 4: are going to continue to trend. And they're a really 605 00:29:17,474 --> 00:29:20,514 Speaker 4: really great alternative coming into aunerm winter when we're still 606 00:29:20,554 --> 00:29:22,674 Speaker 4: potentially doing backless shoes and things like that. 607 00:29:22,794 --> 00:29:37,194 Speaker 2: So yeah, plenty of plenty on offer. It's very expensive. 608 00:29:37,994 --> 00:29:42,434 Speaker 5: How wondred these percent hearing about the alternatives? I am 609 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,114 Speaker 5: excited to hear about your shoe rex? 610 00:29:44,274 --> 00:29:45,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what have you got from town? Let's start 611 00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:46,674 Speaker 3: with Bougie. 612 00:29:46,874 --> 00:29:49,914 Speaker 4: Okay, So for Bougie, I'm not sure if you've heard 613 00:29:49,954 --> 00:29:53,874 Speaker 4: of the Spanish brand Alohas No so they Yes, they're 614 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:57,754 Speaker 4: a Spanish design and made brand and they really offer 615 00:29:58,314 --> 00:30:00,714 Speaker 4: shoes with a point of difference. It's again one of 616 00:30:00,794 --> 00:30:03,474 Speaker 4: those if you know, you know type brands. They have 617 00:30:04,314 --> 00:30:09,394 Speaker 4: really luxe swede sneakers, ballet flat and boots and I 618 00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:11,554 Speaker 4: feel like it's one of those brands that I can 619 00:30:11,594 --> 00:30:14,634 Speaker 4: see through my screen the quality and it's like, yeah, 620 00:30:14,714 --> 00:30:17,674 Speaker 4: it's I wouldn't say it's like a fashion girly kind 621 00:30:17,674 --> 00:30:20,554 Speaker 4: of brand. It's just like they're just gorgeous shoes that 622 00:30:20,594 --> 00:30:24,434 Speaker 4: are worth worth the money. So I love the sneakers. 623 00:30:24,594 --> 00:30:26,754 Speaker 4: If I'm buying sneakers, I'd go to this brand. They're 624 00:30:26,834 --> 00:30:29,474 Speaker 4: really colorful and fun. But my pick for the autumn 625 00:30:29,474 --> 00:30:33,314 Speaker 4: winter season is a boot. It's the amber riffed black 626 00:30:33,394 --> 00:30:37,154 Speaker 4: leather ankle boot. It's this sleek, pointed toe ankle boot 627 00:30:37,434 --> 00:30:39,034 Speaker 4: in black leather, and it's got. 628 00:30:38,834 --> 00:30:39,994 Speaker 2: This small kitten heel. 629 00:30:40,114 --> 00:30:44,394 Speaker 4: Beautiful and it also comes in brown Swede and burgundy Swede. 630 00:30:44,474 --> 00:30:46,874 Speaker 2: Yes, so gorgeous. 631 00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:49,274 Speaker 5: That's still a color coming through, isn't it. Like I 632 00:30:49,554 --> 00:30:52,114 Speaker 5: have I been looking around Burgundy I felt would be 633 00:30:52,194 --> 00:30:54,594 Speaker 5: left in last season, but I'm seeing it still pretty relevant. 634 00:30:54,634 --> 00:30:55,314 Speaker 2: It's still around. 635 00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,194 Speaker 4: Definitely is an alternative to that mocker and brown color. 636 00:30:58,234 --> 00:31:00,114 Speaker 4: It still offers that sort of wintry tones. 637 00:31:00,234 --> 00:31:00,554 Speaker 2: Yeah. 638 00:31:00,874 --> 00:31:02,954 Speaker 4: So these shoes are four hundred and eighty dollars, so 639 00:31:02,994 --> 00:31:05,994 Speaker 4: they're certainly an investment. But a black leather ankle boot, 640 00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:08,234 Speaker 4: like I said on the record, I think you're gonna 641 00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:09,074 Speaker 4: get years of. 642 00:31:08,994 --> 00:31:11,674 Speaker 3: Wear out of there's beautiful For that price. It's actually 643 00:31:11,674 --> 00:31:13,514 Speaker 3: pretty good for a leather boot. Isn't it. 644 00:31:13,714 --> 00:31:15,154 Speaker 2: I mean they're so well made. 645 00:31:15,234 --> 00:31:18,474 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, what's your bougie? 646 00:31:18,594 --> 00:31:21,034 Speaker 5: Well, my bougie is also a brand. I'm not sure 647 00:31:21,074 --> 00:31:21,714 Speaker 5: if you've heard of. 648 00:31:21,874 --> 00:31:25,594 Speaker 2: It's viveyor I have heard, but I'm not shopped from. 649 00:31:25,954 --> 00:31:27,354 Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting. 650 00:31:27,514 --> 00:31:30,314 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's like the cool fashiony girl 651 00:31:30,754 --> 00:31:34,794 Speaker 5: brand just yet, but they create and by looking at 652 00:31:34,794 --> 00:31:36,914 Speaker 5: them as well, I feel like they're really good quality shoes. 653 00:31:36,954 --> 00:31:40,314 Speaker 5: They do a square toe, sneak arena shoe and dua 654 00:31:40,434 --> 00:31:44,114 Speaker 5: Leaf was actually spotted in one very similar, similar brand, 655 00:31:44,154 --> 00:31:46,794 Speaker 5: not quite this one, but if you love the very 656 00:31:46,834 --> 00:31:50,314 Speaker 5: feminine like the satin style square toe actually kind of 657 00:31:50,314 --> 00:31:52,634 Speaker 5: looks like a ballet point, so it's leaning more on 658 00:31:52,674 --> 00:31:54,154 Speaker 5: the ballet shoe. 659 00:31:54,634 --> 00:31:55,194 Speaker 3: And you can. 660 00:31:55,074 --> 00:31:57,434 Speaker 5: Customize them as well, which is really cool. Oh, choose 661 00:31:57,514 --> 00:32:01,354 Speaker 5: the color, So the color of the satin like the 662 00:32:01,434 --> 00:32:03,594 Speaker 5: ballet flat, so it could either be like a cream. 663 00:32:03,634 --> 00:32:05,754 Speaker 5: They've got the burgundy as well, which I really like. 664 00:32:05,954 --> 00:32:08,154 Speaker 5: But you can choose the satur and ribbon so it 665 00:32:08,234 --> 00:32:11,274 Speaker 5: has got that classic ballerina ribbon that you do up 666 00:32:11,314 --> 00:32:13,114 Speaker 5: the calf, and you can choose the color of that 667 00:32:13,194 --> 00:32:13,594 Speaker 5: as well. 668 00:32:13,754 --> 00:32:15,994 Speaker 2: Oh, you can actually thread the ribbon around your calf. 669 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:19,394 Speaker 3: It looks like a ballet shoe. So they're just they're fun. 670 00:32:19,474 --> 00:32:23,554 Speaker 5: It's very ballet core. Yeah, it's trendy. Are they going 671 00:32:23,634 --> 00:32:25,434 Speaker 5: to be around in a couple of seasons? Probably not, 672 00:32:25,634 --> 00:32:28,354 Speaker 5: but for the price of it, so it is my bougie. 673 00:32:28,354 --> 00:32:30,554 Speaker 5: But it's two hundred and sixty eight dollars, so it's 674 00:32:30,594 --> 00:32:35,914 Speaker 5: not it's too excessive. But they look really beautiful, well made. 675 00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:38,554 Speaker 5: If you're looking for something different and it's playing in 676 00:32:38,594 --> 00:32:42,874 Speaker 5: that feminine streamline, look, I give these ones a go love. Yeah, 677 00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:44,714 Speaker 5: I think I'll try them in the burgundy. 678 00:32:44,994 --> 00:32:48,674 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So for budget I mentioned earlier, I found 679 00:32:48,754 --> 00:32:51,634 Speaker 4: a great trans seasonal shoe for people who are allergic 680 00:32:51,674 --> 00:32:54,434 Speaker 4: to close in shoes like me. So this is a 681 00:32:54,554 --> 00:32:59,994 Speaker 4: suede and woven mesh backless mule in a torp color, 682 00:33:00,394 --> 00:33:02,754 Speaker 4: which is a color I'm really responding to right now, 683 00:33:03,154 --> 00:33:06,954 Speaker 4: like mushroomy torpie color, which reads to me like wintery. 684 00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:10,074 Speaker 2: Not it's not black, yes, right, or gray. 685 00:33:10,794 --> 00:33:12,914 Speaker 5: Or classic chocolate brown exactly, yeah. 686 00:33:12,714 --> 00:33:14,834 Speaker 2: Which I still love chocolate brown, but sometimes I want 687 00:33:14,834 --> 00:33:16,714 Speaker 2: something a bit lighter on my feet. 688 00:33:16,914 --> 00:33:17,434 Speaker 3: Yeah. 689 00:33:17,674 --> 00:33:20,274 Speaker 4: So this is like a barely their shoe that I 690 00:33:20,314 --> 00:33:22,794 Speaker 4: know i'd wear of a lot that I know i'd 691 00:33:22,874 --> 00:33:26,394 Speaker 4: wear a lot in autumn. And it's a mule shape, 692 00:33:26,434 --> 00:33:29,994 Speaker 4: which is again just a I wear mules constantly, and 693 00:33:30,274 --> 00:33:32,394 Speaker 4: I feel like this shade is also really great back 694 00:33:32,394 --> 00:33:34,994 Speaker 4: with denim, which is just I live in denim in autumn. 695 00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:37,434 Speaker 2: So where is it from? 696 00:33:37,594 --> 00:33:41,114 Speaker 4: So the shoe is from Seed and it's the Mali 697 00:33:41,354 --> 00:33:44,394 Speaker 4: Mesh Mule and it's one hundred and forty nine ninety 698 00:33:44,394 --> 00:33:45,114 Speaker 4: five beautiful. 699 00:33:45,154 --> 00:33:47,034 Speaker 3: I love that. I love twalk as well. 700 00:33:47,154 --> 00:33:49,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful. I'm really going to buy these? 701 00:33:49,554 --> 00:33:51,434 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I actually think I'm really going to buy 702 00:33:51,474 --> 00:33:54,074 Speaker 5: my budget as well, which is a mule. And I 703 00:33:54,154 --> 00:33:56,034 Speaker 5: almost wanted to talk about meals today, but I feel 704 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,434 Speaker 5: like that if it's another episode with it itself, because 705 00:33:58,474 --> 00:34:00,514 Speaker 5: I feel like they're really relevant and trendy. 706 00:34:00,554 --> 00:34:00,914 Speaker 2: They are. 707 00:34:00,994 --> 00:34:03,274 Speaker 3: I do love a mule, and there's a hybrid. 708 00:34:03,394 --> 00:34:05,754 Speaker 5: So my budget for one hundred and nineteen dollars is 709 00:34:05,914 --> 00:34:09,234 Speaker 5: a cut and Keith, oh my gosh, mine's talk as well. 710 00:34:09,354 --> 00:34:10,473 Speaker 2: No can I tell you these? 711 00:34:10,594 --> 00:34:12,953 Speaker 4: I just looked at the door at our document and 712 00:34:12,994 --> 00:34:16,834 Speaker 4: I had these as my like backup, no way budget option. 713 00:34:17,274 --> 00:34:20,194 Speaker 4: We're looking at the exact same shoe. It's meant to be. 714 00:34:20,434 --> 00:34:21,034 Speaker 2: I love that. 715 00:34:21,154 --> 00:34:23,073 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we should get these because it's I love 716 00:34:23,274 --> 00:34:25,873 Speaker 5: Charles and Keith for one, I love talk, we love 717 00:34:26,114 --> 00:34:26,874 Speaker 5: and a mule. 718 00:34:27,514 --> 00:34:30,594 Speaker 3: Mine's a hybrid of a sneaker. 719 00:34:30,474 --> 00:34:34,474 Speaker 5: Esque mule and I yeah, just again, I love a mule, 720 00:34:34,674 --> 00:34:36,514 Speaker 5: but I also love the look of a sneaker, so 721 00:34:36,554 --> 00:34:38,594 Speaker 5: you get both best of both worlds. 722 00:34:38,674 --> 00:34:41,394 Speaker 2: So it's essentially a backless sneaker, which we're. 723 00:34:41,194 --> 00:34:41,954 Speaker 3: Seeing a lot of. 724 00:34:42,234 --> 00:34:44,794 Speaker 5: Yeah, New Balance of a really they've collaborated with Mew 725 00:34:44,834 --> 00:34:45,274 Speaker 5: Mew and. 726 00:34:45,314 --> 00:34:48,114 Speaker 2: Not a really nice Now I would buy those. 727 00:34:48,034 --> 00:34:50,954 Speaker 5: And they look amazing. That's very much an example of 728 00:34:50,994 --> 00:34:53,274 Speaker 5: hot and demand. They're always sailing out. Yeah, that's so 729 00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:55,274 Speaker 5: hard to get. We didn't even talk about Mew Mew. 730 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:58,354 Speaker 5: I mean that's again, we could devote a whole nother 731 00:34:58,394 --> 00:35:01,913 Speaker 5: half an hour to that. But yeah, they're Newmews, those 732 00:35:01,914 --> 00:35:05,393 Speaker 5: sneakers with the New Balance collaboration, they're constantly selling out 733 00:35:05,394 --> 00:35:06,354 Speaker 5: the relevancy of them. 734 00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:08,594 Speaker 3: It's unbelief. Books. Yeah, so many people have them. 735 00:35:08,634 --> 00:35:11,234 Speaker 5: Let's probably give it another six months and then it'll 736 00:35:11,274 --> 00:35:12,714 Speaker 5: probably oh yeah. 737 00:35:12,554 --> 00:35:15,154 Speaker 4: Well, we're seeing a lot of dupes aren't we now, Yeah, 738 00:35:15,554 --> 00:35:17,874 Speaker 4: and these might be in that category, but that's okay. 739 00:35:18,194 --> 00:35:21,674 Speaker 5: And for this style, yeah, it's just non branded. You 740 00:35:21,674 --> 00:35:24,554 Speaker 5: wouldn't necessarily know it's so it just looks like a 741 00:35:24,594 --> 00:35:28,234 Speaker 5: really nice brown Torp Swede sneaker. And then you've got 742 00:35:28,274 --> 00:35:32,354 Speaker 5: that comfortability of and differentiation. 743 00:35:31,714 --> 00:35:33,554 Speaker 3: Of a mule as well, yea, which I really like. 744 00:35:33,714 --> 00:35:36,514 Speaker 5: So those ones are from Charles and Keith for one 745 00:35:36,594 --> 00:35:37,594 Speaker 5: hundred and nineteen dollars. 746 00:35:38,394 --> 00:35:38,913 Speaker 2: We love it. 747 00:35:39,034 --> 00:35:42,114 Speaker 4: So many options today, I'm definitely inspired to go shoe shopping. 748 00:35:42,394 --> 00:35:47,834 Speaker 4: Was that the objective of this episode always, But that's 749 00:35:48,074 --> 00:35:50,274 Speaker 4: unfortunately all we have time for today. Thank you for 750 00:35:50,354 --> 00:35:52,674 Speaker 4: listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget to sign up 751 00:35:52,674 --> 00:35:55,074 Speaker 4: to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. 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