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Speaker 2: get into it. So this episode, we decided to talk

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Speaker 2: about the biggest celebrity relationships this year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so breakups, get togethers, or just relationships that have

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Speaker 1: had a huge impact on culture. The ones that we

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Speaker 1: Oh for these are breakups. These are the biggest breakups.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez filed for divorce from Ben Affleck on August twenty,

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Speaker 1: Remember in February they had dunkin Donuts commercial together that

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot all about this. And they

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Speaker 2: also still have two more movies coming out.

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Speaker 1: how great that was with the hummingbird and then she

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Speaker 2: like the Oscars and we get like all the celebrities

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Speaker 2: lining up for the photos, but then we get the

430
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Speaker 2: same thing for the just before the after party.

431
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Speaker 1: Yes it's yes, but it's like more rush.

432
00:19:02,304 --> 00:19:04,264
Speaker 2: So they have like a few spots set up like

433
00:19:04,304 --> 00:19:07,424
Speaker 2: alongside each other, and like Sabrina is standing next to

434
00:19:07,504 --> 00:19:09,904
Speaker 2: Barry but they're like in separate sections and he's just

435
00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:12,544
Speaker 2: like watch her get photographed.

436
00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:14,544
Speaker 1: Like that was like with like just a look of adoration.

437
00:19:15,464 --> 00:19:16,944
Speaker 1: Every girl straight little.

438
00:19:16,744 --> 00:19:19,184
Speaker 2: Face so then like it was pretty obvious that they

439
00:19:19,184 --> 00:19:23,064
Speaker 2: were official. He started watching her like sets. They were

440
00:19:23,104 --> 00:19:25,544
Speaker 2: at Coachella together, which is like the first I guess

441
00:19:26,224 --> 00:19:29,704
Speaker 2: public appearance. She also made a little like note in

442
00:19:29,704 --> 00:19:31,664
Speaker 2: one of her songs about him. She said drinking my

443
00:19:31,744 --> 00:19:35,464
Speaker 2: bath wader like it's red wine, which was quite sexy

444
00:19:35,504 --> 00:19:38,584
Speaker 2: if you're into those sort of things. They like probably debuted,

445
00:19:38,584 --> 00:19:40,864
Speaker 2: I would say, at the met Gala this year in May. Yes,

446
00:19:41,384 --> 00:19:44,184
Speaker 2: they were like spotted together greeting each other. They didn't

447
00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:46,784
Speaker 2: get ready together, but they like met each other before, yes,

448
00:19:46,824 --> 00:19:48,944
Speaker 2: because Vogue was doing him, but they get ready with

449
00:19:48,984 --> 00:19:51,504
Speaker 2: me Siri, and they filmed her like he came into

450
00:19:51,544 --> 00:19:52,864
Speaker 2: the room and he kind of peaks again.

451
00:19:52,904 --> 00:19:55,464
Speaker 1: He always looks like just like a Leprecorn who's been like.

452
00:19:56,744 --> 00:19:58,624
Speaker 2: Willie Wonka, which I don't know why they were doing that.

453
00:19:58,704 --> 00:20:00,984
Speaker 1: But he always looks so mischievous, but also like he's

454
00:20:00,984 --> 00:20:03,304
Speaker 1: been caught unawares, even though like there's a whole Vogue

455
00:20:03,304 --> 00:20:05,704
Speaker 1: camera crew like a little Leprecorn who's like someone's found

456
00:20:05,744 --> 00:20:07,744
Speaker 1: his pot of gold, and like they come over and

457
00:20:07,784 --> 00:20:09,784
Speaker 1: have a little hug, and he looks all you know,

458
00:20:10,464 --> 00:20:12,344
Speaker 1: if like, oh, like I'm just here by chance. They're

459
00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:14,344
Speaker 1: obviously like staying at the hotel together and like they're

460
00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:16,424
Speaker 1: sweeps where it like had a connecting door.

461
00:20:16,624 --> 00:20:18,784
Speaker 2: They did walk the carpet separately though, but then came

462
00:20:18,824 --> 00:20:20,904
Speaker 2: in for a few photos together, kind of like poor

463
00:20:20,984 --> 00:20:23,064
Speaker 2: Mescal and Phoebe Bridges and those like photos that will

464
00:20:23,104 --> 00:20:23,824
Speaker 2: go down in history.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

466
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Speaker 2: And then like the biggest thing they did as a

467
00:20:27,224 --> 00:20:29,744
Speaker 2: couple was she had him a star in her music

468
00:20:29,824 --> 00:20:33,744
Speaker 2: video Please Please Please, Yes, the very sexy video. It

469
00:20:33,824 --> 00:20:36,744
Speaker 2: was clearly the song about him. She doesn't want him

470
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Speaker 2: to embarrass her like he did with his girlfriend who

471
00:20:39,344 --> 00:20:42,224
Speaker 2: he shares a child with. It was so interesting because

472
00:20:42,224 --> 00:20:45,384
Speaker 2: I feel like very similar to Jlo and Ben Affleck.

473
00:20:45,904 --> 00:20:49,104
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of commentary about like how she's

474
00:20:49,544 --> 00:20:52,864
Speaker 2: now like over sexualized and she stole like this man

475
00:20:52,904 --> 00:20:55,944
Speaker 2: away from his family and like his child and it's

476
00:20:55,984 --> 00:20:57,824
Speaker 2: never on him like he left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, I mean we don't know what happened,

478
00:21:00,344 --> 00:21:02,304
Speaker 1: but I do like that, like how with the munch authority,

479
00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:06,024
Speaker 1: so that he left her asn't like that relationship ended

480
00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:08,384
Speaker 1: and then they started dating. Yeah, and he does talk

481
00:21:08,424 --> 00:21:10,224
Speaker 1: about the fact that he doesn't see his son as

482
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Speaker 1: is like he previously did I think his ex girlfriend

483
00:21:12,944 --> 00:21:15,104
Speaker 1: has posted about being a single mum, and then she

484
00:21:15,144 --> 00:21:16,664
Speaker 1: had to de lead it because fans got angry and

485
00:21:16,664 --> 00:21:18,424
Speaker 1: all that sort of backlash. But you're right, like, we

486
00:21:18,464 --> 00:21:20,984
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening in their personal circumstances, but it's

487
00:21:21,024 --> 00:21:23,104
Speaker 1: always this thing of like she lured him away from

488
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Speaker 1: his girlfriend and child, whereas we don't know if that's

489
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Speaker 1: what happened, but it's just this whole thing because she's

490
00:21:27,624 --> 00:21:29,144
Speaker 1: got this sexy persona and some.

491
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Speaker 2: Of her lyrics are a bit awkward, talking about like

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Speaker 2: I feel like Espresso, where she says, so Espresso was

493
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Speaker 2: like a song that she launched during Coachella, like she

494
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Speaker 2: played it for the first time and that.

495
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Speaker 1: I kind of hope you like a Coachella.

496
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Speaker 2: This is Espresso.

497
00:21:46,264 --> 00:21:47,304
Speaker 1: And look, they did like it.

498
00:21:47,424 --> 00:21:49,464
Speaker 2: They did like it, so they were pretty much together

499
00:21:49,544 --> 00:21:53,784
Speaker 2: by this time. And these lyrics are just really mean, Okay,

500
00:21:53,984 --> 00:21:56,344
Speaker 2: too bad, your ex don't do it for you, walked

501
00:21:56,384 --> 00:21:58,584
Speaker 2: in and dreams came true for your soft skin, and

502
00:21:58,624 --> 00:21:59,904
Speaker 2: I perfumed it for you.

503
00:22:00,304 --> 00:22:03,224
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I sing along to this song all the time.

504
00:22:03,384 --> 00:22:05,144
Speaker 1: I never actually stopped to think about what some of

505
00:22:05,144 --> 00:22:06,024
Speaker 1: the lyrics were.

506
00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:07,704
Speaker 2: Too bad to X and that's not even just like

507
00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,304
Speaker 2: a standard, that's like the chorus.

508
00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:12,784
Speaker 1: She says, she's really wanting to like Nail at Home.

509
00:22:12,864 --> 00:22:15,464
Speaker 1: It's interesting too the Please Please Please video because of

510
00:22:15,504 --> 00:22:17,584
Speaker 1: them like breaking out of prison together and being all

511
00:22:17,664 --> 00:22:20,464
Speaker 1: sexy body and Clyde and when she was asked about

512
00:22:20,704 --> 00:22:22,464
Speaker 1: how did she persuade him, and she's like, I didn't

513
00:22:22,504 --> 00:22:24,744
Speaker 1: persuade him. He wanted to do it. And then she said,

514
00:22:24,784 --> 00:22:27,024
Speaker 1: I had access to the best actor in the world.

515
00:22:27,024 --> 00:22:29,744
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I use him making it all? You know,

516
00:22:29,824 --> 00:22:31,624
Speaker 1: this whole thing about like it was just his acting

517
00:22:31,664 --> 00:22:33,304
Speaker 1: skills they wanted there. And I was like, I know

518
00:22:33,344 --> 00:22:36,064
Speaker 1: what you're doing. They're two kids in love. Yeah, and

519
00:22:36,104 --> 00:22:37,344
Speaker 1: again I'm into it. I love it.

520
00:22:37,384 --> 00:22:40,184
Speaker 2: Look, I'm into it. It's gonna end so badly for them.

521
00:22:40,224 --> 00:22:42,024
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's going to end badly.

522
00:22:42,064 --> 00:22:44,104
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna because there's no at this

523
00:22:44,144 --> 00:22:45,904
Speaker 1: stage of the game, and there's no big wedding, there's

524
00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:47,264
Speaker 1: no that sort of stuff. Like it's like they're just

525
00:22:47,304 --> 00:22:50,504
Speaker 1: playing in the Internet law almost of it in terms

526
00:22:50,504 --> 00:22:53,584
Speaker 1: of she'll post things and he'll like very publicly post

527
00:22:53,784 --> 00:22:55,904
Speaker 1: on her page and be like, you look sexy, Darlin.

528
00:22:55,984 --> 00:22:58,584
Speaker 1: I like that dress, Dalin all that kind of stuff,

529
00:22:58,624 --> 00:23:01,024
Speaker 1: And when they break up, they'll just have this like

530
00:23:01,184 --> 00:23:03,664
Speaker 1: iconic music video that people loved at the time, She'll

531
00:23:03,664 --> 00:23:06,184
Speaker 1: write another song about him, He'll go date another hot woman.

532
00:23:06,264 --> 00:23:07,944
Speaker 1: Like I actually think they'll come out of this fine

533
00:23:08,104 --> 00:23:10,064
Speaker 1: when they eventually break up, and it'll just be this

534
00:23:10,104 --> 00:23:13,144
Speaker 1: thing where they just both build more internet and music

535
00:23:13,184 --> 00:23:14,984
Speaker 1: content off the back of it, but they'll both come

536
00:23:15,024 --> 00:23:15,824
Speaker 1: out of it looking good.

537
00:23:15,944 --> 00:23:18,264
Speaker 2: I just know that if she breaks up with him,

538
00:23:18,784 --> 00:23:20,784
Speaker 2: he's going to be all over her Instagram and the

539
00:23:20,784 --> 00:23:22,584
Speaker 2: most embarrassingly, he's all.

540
00:23:22,384 --> 00:23:24,464
Speaker 1: Over it now, like almost too much. Sometimes the like

541
00:23:24,464 --> 00:23:28,504
Speaker 1: pull back, but it is that whole like Madalin things. Okay,

542
00:23:28,864 --> 00:23:33,864
Speaker 1: I'll give them a pass. So the other relationship that

543
00:23:33,984 --> 00:23:37,224
Speaker 1: I feel deserves our attention in this episode from twenty

544
00:23:37,264 --> 00:23:40,264
Speaker 1: twenty four is Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

545
00:23:40,864 --> 00:23:42,824
Speaker 2: Oh that's such a good one.

546
00:23:43,144 --> 00:23:45,784
Speaker 1: We're not sort of going into, you know, the backlash

547
00:23:45,784 --> 00:23:48,384
Speaker 1: around Blake Lively warranted or not. I mean, well, this

548
00:23:48,864 --> 00:23:51,624
Speaker 1: leads into that. But what I think is so interesting

549
00:23:51,624 --> 00:23:54,304
Speaker 1: about this couple, even though they are not a new couple.

550
00:23:54,304 --> 00:23:55,904
Speaker 1: They've been together for a really long time. They have

551
00:23:55,944 --> 00:23:59,144
Speaker 1: four children now, and they didn't have a breakup. Their

552
00:23:59,224 --> 00:24:02,704
Speaker 1: relationship still went through an immense change this year, which

553
00:24:02,704 --> 00:24:04,024
Speaker 1: is why I think they're so interesting.

554
00:24:04,064 --> 00:24:07,224
Speaker 2: I think the public perception of their relationship did a

555
00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:08,344
Speaker 2: huge like.

556
00:24:08,984 --> 00:24:12,144
Speaker 1: Yes and do you, in huge part to marketing that

557
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:15,744
Speaker 1: had always worked for them before, so leading into this year,

558
00:24:16,144 --> 00:24:19,344
Speaker 1: they're one of the most beloved celebrity couples around. People

559
00:24:19,384 --> 00:24:21,744
Speaker 1: love all those photos that the walking through New York together,

560
00:24:21,824 --> 00:24:25,424
Speaker 1: hugging and kissing. As I said, they welcomed their fourth child,

561
00:24:25,504 --> 00:24:28,544
Speaker 1: their first little boy. They talk about each other in

562
00:24:28,544 --> 00:24:30,304
Speaker 1: interviews in such a sweet way, and they had this

563
00:24:30,384 --> 00:24:33,464
Speaker 1: real rivalry too. I think people like it's a bit embarrassing,

564
00:24:33,504 --> 00:24:36,064
Speaker 1: but people liked it that there's like previously to this

565
00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:39,184
Speaker 1: their relationship on Instagram, where they would like poke fun

566
00:24:39,184 --> 00:24:41,224
Speaker 1: at each other, cut each other out of photos, all

567
00:24:41,224 --> 00:24:42,824
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where you either loved it or

568
00:24:42,824 --> 00:24:45,504
Speaker 1: you thought it was embarrassing, but most people really loved it.

569
00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:49,904
Speaker 1: And their joint energy around their relationship was very solid.

570
00:24:50,144 --> 00:24:52,664
Speaker 1: And so when it came out that they both had

571
00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:56,344
Speaker 1: huge movies debuting within like a few weeks of each other.

572
00:24:56,664 --> 00:24:59,384
Speaker 1: It seemed like this was kind of their golden ticket

573
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:02,624
Speaker 1: to becoming this the ultimate celebrity couple because you had

574
00:25:02,624 --> 00:25:04,384
Speaker 1: dead Pull and Wolverine. Your I'm going to say your

575
00:25:04,384 --> 00:25:07,704
Speaker 1: favorite movie of the year that, yeah, I would say, yeah,

576
00:25:07,784 --> 00:25:11,024
Speaker 1: top ten, top ten, And so that was his movie

577
00:25:11,104 --> 00:25:13,784
Speaker 1: with Hugh Jackman, and then her movie It Ends with Us,

578
00:25:13,864 --> 00:25:15,264
Speaker 1: and there was so much built up to that because

579
00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:17,384
Speaker 1: it's based on such a beloved book. She hadn't sort

580
00:25:17,384 --> 00:25:19,344
Speaker 1: of had a big leading role like that for a while.

581
00:25:19,424 --> 00:25:21,624
Speaker 1: So for a while there it seemed that this was

582
00:25:21,664 --> 00:25:24,264
Speaker 1: going to be the perfect situation because they were asked

583
00:25:24,264 --> 00:25:27,144
Speaker 1: about each other on their press tours because Deadpool Wolverine

584
00:25:27,184 --> 00:25:29,864
Speaker 1: came out first, but it was kind of leading into

585
00:25:29,944 --> 00:25:32,344
Speaker 1: the moment when It Ends with Us was about to start.

586
00:25:32,344 --> 00:25:34,424
Speaker 1: So they had a lot of crossover where one of

587
00:25:34,464 --> 00:25:36,624
Speaker 1: them would do like a radio TV spot one day

588
00:25:36,664 --> 00:25:39,104
Speaker 1: and the next day the person Ryan would do the

589
00:25:39,144 --> 00:25:41,504
Speaker 1: same TV interview and they would play videos at Blake,

590
00:25:41,544 --> 00:25:42,744
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Hell was kind of stuff

591
00:25:42,744 --> 00:25:45,304
Speaker 1: where they were trading like jokes and commentary through media,

592
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,984
Speaker 1: and they walked each other's red carpets together. Huge judgment

593
00:25:48,104 --> 00:25:50,904
Speaker 1: was involved. Yeah, gg didh did? Was there dressed up

594
00:25:50,904 --> 00:25:54,464
Speaker 1: for the Deadpool Woulverine premiere. Hugh Jackman and Blake Lively

595
00:25:54,504 --> 00:25:57,104
Speaker 1: did like a big magazine covered together, Like they really

596
00:25:57,184 --> 00:26:00,184
Speaker 1: brought everything together and it seemed like was a match

597
00:26:00,224 --> 00:26:03,264
Speaker 1: made in heaven until some of their marketing just went

598
00:26:03,864 --> 00:26:06,264
Speaker 1: a little bit off the rails. So what's important to

599
00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:08,584
Speaker 1: note here is that at the end of the day, like, yes,

600
00:26:08,664 --> 00:26:11,344
Speaker 1: Ryan and Blake are both actors and producers, but they

601
00:26:11,424 --> 00:26:14,784
Speaker 1: also have like a lot of different businesses that they

602
00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:17,184
Speaker 1: have built up using their fame and their money and

603
00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:21,744
Speaker 1: their connections product Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. So Ryan Reynolds is

604
00:26:21,904 --> 00:26:27,824
Speaker 1: worth about fourteen billion dollars according to Forbes, through portfolio

605
00:26:27,984 --> 00:26:31,184
Speaker 1: of businesses he's either started and sold or that he

606
00:26:31,264 --> 00:26:33,064
Speaker 1: co owns. Because he's got an F one team, he's

607
00:26:33,064 --> 00:26:35,384
Speaker 1: got a football club, he's got an alcohol brand, a

608
00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:38,824
Speaker 1: wireless provider, and an advertising agency. What if one team

609
00:26:38,824 --> 00:26:40,864
Speaker 1: does he have? I think there's a whole like there's

610
00:26:40,864 --> 00:26:42,784
Speaker 1: a whole like documentary around that or something. I don't

611
00:26:42,824 --> 00:26:46,424
Speaker 1: have that information. And previously it had worked really well

612
00:26:46,464 --> 00:26:49,024
Speaker 1: for him to tie in his product launches to to

613
00:26:49,224 --> 00:26:51,344
Speaker 1: his movies coming out, because you know, he's doing so

614
00:26:51,424 --> 00:26:53,544
Speaker 1: much press for his movies and people love him, so

615
00:26:53,544 --> 00:26:54,744
Speaker 1: it's a good time for him. Always.

616
00:26:54,824 --> 00:26:56,984
Speaker 2: He always brings it back to like creation, right, like

617
00:26:57,184 --> 00:26:59,464
Speaker 2: similar to like how he made Reccent with Rob mcay

618
00:26:59,664 --> 00:27:01,384
Speaker 2: like it's all about the football club, but then they

619
00:27:01,384 --> 00:27:04,504
Speaker 2: did the documentary show around the football club and tied

620
00:27:04,544 --> 00:27:06,464
Speaker 2: into his movies and press tour and stuff.

621
00:27:06,504 --> 00:27:08,864
Speaker 1: So he's really good at that, like exactly like I

622
00:27:08,904 --> 00:27:10,744
Speaker 1: think they're very big chill and being like we're not

623
00:27:10,784 --> 00:27:13,264
Speaker 1: just actors, but we're a brand, like our marriages brand,

624
00:27:13,304 --> 00:27:15,744
Speaker 1: our products as a brand, and they have co mingled

625
00:27:15,784 --> 00:27:18,584
Speaker 1: their brands before. I remember when A Simple Favor came out,

626
00:27:18,904 --> 00:27:21,744
Speaker 1: and there's so much in that movie of Blake's character

627
00:27:22,184 --> 00:27:24,184
Speaker 1: making the gin martini is that's such a big part

628
00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:27,384
Speaker 1: of her character, and so Ryan Reynolds has a gin company,

629
00:27:27,464 --> 00:27:29,864
Speaker 1: so he really kind of tied the marketing into his

630
00:27:29,944 --> 00:27:32,304
Speaker 1: company into her movie to the point where I remember

631
00:27:32,344 --> 00:27:34,024
Speaker 1: going to the premiere of that movie and being and

632
00:27:34,064 --> 00:27:36,144
Speaker 1: like all the drinks were done by Ryan Reynolds at

633
00:27:36,184 --> 00:27:37,944
Speaker 1: the party, and when we left, you all got a

634
00:27:37,944 --> 00:27:40,584
Speaker 1: bottle of Ryan Reynolds gin, like it was so kind

635
00:27:40,584 --> 00:27:42,704
Speaker 1: of tied in together, so you could see that this

636
00:27:42,784 --> 00:27:47,824
Speaker 1: time around. That's why Blake launched her haircare brand, Blake Brown,

637
00:27:47,984 --> 00:27:50,984
Speaker 1: around the same time as she was launching the movie,

638
00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:53,624
Speaker 1: so that all that promo from the movie, all the

639
00:27:53,664 --> 00:27:55,024
Speaker 1: red car but she's doing all the events or the

640
00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:58,144
Speaker 1: interviews of the magazine covers could also help launch her

641
00:27:58,464 --> 00:28:00,784
Speaker 1: hair care brand, which she said she'd been working on

642
00:28:00,864 --> 00:28:03,184
Speaker 1: for seven years. But this is where it was all

643
00:28:03,184 --> 00:28:05,704
Speaker 1: set up for them to both have these amazing movie

644
00:28:05,704 --> 00:28:07,904
Speaker 1: releases and launched their products, and then it kind of

645
00:28:07,904 --> 00:28:08,744
Speaker 1: all went off the rails.

646
00:28:08,944 --> 00:28:12,024
Speaker 2: The hair then kind of made sense if you've watched

647
00:28:12,344 --> 00:28:15,344
Speaker 2: the movie for just like the aesthetic purposes of the movie,

648
00:28:15,384 --> 00:28:20,944
Speaker 2: because her character, Lily Blossom Bloom exactly Bloom Lily Bloom,

649
00:28:21,144 --> 00:28:25,064
Speaker 2: Lily Bloom like esthetically her character is hair. Yeah, like

650
00:28:25,144 --> 00:28:28,784
Speaker 2: she just has like this crazy like long, like untamed,

651
00:28:28,864 --> 00:28:31,464
Speaker 2: unkempt hair that just like it's like also what Blake

652
00:28:31,504 --> 00:28:35,544
Speaker 2: Lively is known for. It's just having like the most longest, thickest, beautiful.

653
00:28:35,184 --> 00:28:37,704
Speaker 1: Hair, yeah, exactly, And she'd be non from that's like

654
00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:39,624
Speaker 1: gossip Girl days. So it seemed like it was a

655
00:28:39,624 --> 00:28:41,744
Speaker 1: good thing. But Obviously there was the whole backlash around

656
00:28:41,744 --> 00:28:44,584
Speaker 1: her not you know, really tying in her press to

657
00:28:44,624 --> 00:28:47,064
Speaker 1: the themes of the movie and domestic violence. But even

658
00:28:47,104 --> 00:28:48,904
Speaker 1: more so than that, it was the first time that

659
00:28:48,984 --> 00:28:52,144
Speaker 1: she and Ryan as a couple went from being seen

660
00:28:52,224 --> 00:28:56,624
Speaker 1: as like really beloved to being like controlling and manipulative

661
00:28:56,624 --> 00:28:59,304
Speaker 1: and like the bad guys of Hollywood. Because I mean,

662
00:28:59,344 --> 00:29:00,704
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure, but what we kind of

663
00:29:00,704 --> 00:29:04,264
Speaker 1: know that happened is that Justin Baldoni had brought the

664
00:29:04,344 --> 00:29:07,144
Speaker 1: rights to the book, he directed it and starred in it,

665
00:29:07,544 --> 00:29:11,424
Speaker 1: and apparently Blake was like not super happy the final script,

666
00:29:11,664 --> 00:29:13,264
Speaker 1: and she's in said in interviews at some of the

667
00:29:13,304 --> 00:29:16,224
Speaker 1: best lines, in her opinion were ones that Ryan Reynolds wrote.

668
00:29:16,464 --> 00:29:19,824
Speaker 1: So what happened, it appears, if you're piecing the things together,

669
00:29:19,944 --> 00:29:22,064
Speaker 1: is that they had a script Ryan and Blake didn't

670
00:29:22,104 --> 00:29:24,504
Speaker 1: quite like it, so Ryan rewrote it. He's not involved

671
00:29:24,504 --> 00:29:26,744
Speaker 1: in the movie anyway this stage of the game. And

672
00:29:26,824 --> 00:29:29,264
Speaker 1: it's also believed, like we don't know for sure and

673
00:29:29,304 --> 00:29:31,144
Speaker 1: have proof of this, that he did it during the

674
00:29:31,184 --> 00:29:33,504
Speaker 1: writer's strike, so that the writer in question said, I

675
00:29:33,544 --> 00:29:36,064
Speaker 1: can't fix the script because we're not supposed to be

676
00:29:36,224 --> 00:29:37,704
Speaker 1: you know, hold the picket line, and.

677
00:29:37,624 --> 00:29:39,784
Speaker 2: They didn't know until they watched the movie that the

678
00:29:40,184 --> 00:29:42,304
Speaker 2: scripts that they put out that they were paid to

679
00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:43,664
Speaker 2: do was just completely.

680
00:29:43,584 --> 00:29:45,984
Speaker 1: Had been changed. Heah, exactly. So it's thought that Ryan

681
00:29:46,024 --> 00:29:48,024
Speaker 1: Reynolds was potentially a bit of a scab and wrote

682
00:29:48,104 --> 00:29:50,544
Speaker 1: during the writer's strike. Again, can't prove it yet, I

683
00:29:50,544 --> 00:29:53,384
Speaker 1: will wonder. Apparently, then there were two different cuts of

684
00:29:53,384 --> 00:29:56,264
Speaker 1: the movie. There was the Justin Baldoni clip and then

685
00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:58,144
Speaker 1: there was the Ryan and Blake clip, and they were

686
00:29:58,144 --> 00:30:01,464
Speaker 1: battling it out, and apparently the Justin Baldoni clip is

687
00:30:01,504 --> 00:30:03,064
Speaker 1: the one that went to air, Like, that's the cut

688
00:30:03,104 --> 00:30:06,384
Speaker 1: of the movie that went to air with Ryan's dialogue

689
00:30:06,384 --> 00:30:08,584
Speaker 1: in it. But and that's where the and this is

690
00:30:08,584 --> 00:30:11,144
Speaker 1: where people think the whole rift between just Blake and

691
00:30:11,224 --> 00:30:14,944
Speaker 1: Ryan by association because he's involved, all happened because they

692
00:30:14,984 --> 00:30:17,304
Speaker 1: came in and tried to take over the movie. Again,

693
00:30:17,344 --> 00:30:19,944
Speaker 1: this is all speculation, but something happened behind the scenes.

694
00:30:20,184 --> 00:30:22,864
Speaker 2: Something happened, because when we were watching videos of the

695
00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:24,904
Speaker 2: press too and them doing interviews, it was always Justin

696
00:30:24,944 --> 00:30:27,664
Speaker 2: Baldoni doing his interviews and press by himself. Yeah, and

697
00:30:27,704 --> 00:30:29,824
Speaker 2: the rest of the cast and Blake doing it together.

698
00:30:29,744 --> 00:30:32,784
Speaker 1: Exactly, some people have speculated, and look, this might be true.

699
00:30:32,824 --> 00:30:36,104
Speaker 1: This is how that industry works, is that people had

700
00:30:36,104 --> 00:30:38,344
Speaker 1: to peak a side, like people who were either actors

701
00:30:38,344 --> 00:30:40,384
Speaker 1: in the movie or production, or even Colling Hoover, the

702
00:30:40,384 --> 00:30:42,464
Speaker 1: author of the book, had to pick a side, and

703
00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:45,144
Speaker 1: so many of them picked Blake and Ryan because they're

704
00:30:45,184 --> 00:30:47,344
Speaker 1: the big power players in Hollywood. They're the ones with

705
00:30:47,384 --> 00:30:50,984
Speaker 1: the studio connections. Ryan Reynolds has a fourteen billion dollar industry,

706
00:30:51,104 --> 00:30:53,704
Speaker 1: whereas Justin Baldoni kind of powerful but not really like

707
00:30:53,784 --> 00:30:56,584
Speaker 1: he's not getting movies made of his name alone. He

708
00:30:56,624 --> 00:30:58,544
Speaker 1: can't make or break you the way that they can.

709
00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:01,904
Speaker 1: So they went from being this happy, go lucky, in love,

710
00:31:02,024 --> 00:31:05,024
Speaker 1: goofy little Hollywood married couple who like to bait together

711
00:31:05,384 --> 00:31:09,664
Speaker 1: to being seen as these manipulative people who were like

712
00:31:09,744 --> 00:31:12,024
Speaker 1: destroying crews and who were trying to launch products and

713
00:31:12,064 --> 00:31:14,504
Speaker 1: make money off the artists around them. So it's just

714
00:31:14,544 --> 00:31:17,944
Speaker 1: so interesting how a joint press to a movie release

715
00:31:17,984 --> 00:31:20,864
Speaker 1: schedule that should have like solidified them as a Hollywood

716
00:31:20,904 --> 00:31:24,304
Speaker 1: golden couple actually turned the tables on them. And they're

717
00:31:24,304 --> 00:31:26,184
Speaker 1: still famous and beloved. But I don't think people will

718
00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:27,464
Speaker 1: ever forget this moment in time.

719
00:31:27,864 --> 00:31:31,624
Speaker 2: Okay, So my next relationship I want to talk about

720
00:31:31,824 --> 00:31:34,984
Speaker 2: is someone who's very close friends with Blake, a little

721
00:31:35,024 --> 00:31:38,824
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. You might have heard of her, So Taylor Swift.

722
00:31:39,024 --> 00:31:42,104
Speaker 2: I mean, she's had a lot of big relationships in

723
00:31:42,184 --> 00:31:45,184
Speaker 2: the past, but I feel like with the Internet and

724
00:31:45,264 --> 00:31:48,104
Speaker 2: like how we see everything now and have access to everything,

725
00:31:48,144 --> 00:31:52,144
Speaker 2: it feels like this relationship this year with Travis Kelce

726
00:31:52,664 --> 00:31:55,024
Speaker 2: is like the biggest one for that, Yeah, for sure.

727
00:31:55,104 --> 00:31:58,904
Speaker 2: And I think it's also the connection of two separate worlds, right,

728
00:31:59,024 --> 00:32:02,384
Speaker 2: like the girls who love music and the men who

729
00:32:02,424 --> 00:32:05,384
Speaker 2: love sports. Ye are like finally coming together. The men

730
00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:07,024
Speaker 2: didn't want it, but the girls were fine with it.

731
00:32:07,424 --> 00:32:10,384
Speaker 2: So this relationship started off late last year, similar to

732
00:32:10,384 --> 00:32:13,864
Speaker 2: to Sabrina and Barry's, where they were together, but they

733
00:32:13,904 --> 00:32:16,264
Speaker 2: weren't actually like talking about it. They were spotted at

734
00:32:16,264 --> 00:32:20,504
Speaker 2: restaurants holding hands. He mentioned her on his podcast that

735
00:32:20,584 --> 00:32:23,304
Speaker 2: he shares with his brother that they still have and

736
00:32:23,344 --> 00:32:26,304
Speaker 2: then that went completely viral and she was asked about

737
00:32:26,304 --> 00:32:28,744
Speaker 2: it in an interview with Time magazine and she said, yeah,

738
00:32:28,744 --> 00:32:29,624
Speaker 2: it was so metal.

739
00:32:30,784 --> 00:32:33,024
Speaker 1: You had me. He just called me on this podcast,

740
00:32:33,064 --> 00:32:37,864
Speaker 1: So that was metal as hell. I have such a

741
00:32:37,944 --> 00:32:40,584
Speaker 1: vivid memory of that moment, heally still rubbing off on

742
00:32:40,624 --> 00:32:45,304
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I remember that was first kicking off,

743
00:32:45,384 --> 00:32:48,464
Speaker 1: and obviously we didn't know they had been dating properly

744
00:32:48,504 --> 00:32:51,144
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And I remember even saying on the pod, like,

745
00:32:51,304 --> 00:32:53,384
Speaker 1: because so many guys obviously do this where they you know,

746
00:32:53,424 --> 00:32:55,944
Speaker 1: try and like put their self into her story, and

747
00:32:56,024 --> 00:32:57,864
Speaker 1: it looked like at the time, before we knew the

748
00:32:57,904 --> 00:33:00,584
Speaker 1: real story, it looked like it was just this football

749
00:33:00,624 --> 00:33:03,544
Speaker 1: bro who has a podcast trying to like call out

750
00:33:03,584 --> 00:33:06,744
Speaker 1: this famous woman and almost like bring some attention to

751
00:33:06,824 --> 00:33:10,344
Speaker 1: himself using her fandom, and him saying like inviting her

752
00:33:10,384 --> 00:33:12,384
Speaker 1: her to the game, and I'm like, it's so creepy

753
00:33:12,624 --> 00:33:14,544
Speaker 1: because we didn't know they were together. And then when

754
00:33:14,584 --> 00:33:16,264
Speaker 1: she turned up at the game, I was shocked to

755
00:33:16,304 --> 00:33:19,024
Speaker 1: my core. Once I realized I was together, it was different,

756
00:33:19,064 --> 00:33:20,664
Speaker 1: like that wasn't their first date or anything like that,

757
00:33:20,704 --> 00:33:23,664
Speaker 1: but just those headlines of like, oh she's there. Yeah,

758
00:33:23,704 --> 00:33:25,224
Speaker 1: that was a that was a huge day. I'm not

759
00:33:25,224 --> 00:33:27,344
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm not even I mean, I liked Telson's music,

760
00:33:27,384 --> 00:33:30,024
Speaker 1: but I'm not usually following her private life so intensely.

761
00:33:30,184 --> 00:33:31,424
Speaker 1: But that day I was all in.

762
00:33:31,544 --> 00:33:35,144
Speaker 2: And I think, like after listening to his podcast and stuff,

763
00:33:35,144 --> 00:33:36,584
Speaker 2: because I have listened to a few episodes.

764
00:33:36,904 --> 00:33:38,744
Speaker 1: Really yeah, what is it in the heights?

765
00:33:39,464 --> 00:33:43,424
Speaker 2: He's really interesting because, as you said, like originally when

766
00:33:43,424 --> 00:33:46,264
Speaker 2: he first mentioned Taylor comes across as like this football

767
00:33:46,384 --> 00:33:49,704
Speaker 2: bro that like someone that we like really would have

768
00:33:49,744 --> 00:33:52,624
Speaker 2: nothing in common with, or someone like Taylor Swift. But

769
00:33:52,664 --> 00:33:56,544
Speaker 2: he's his like personality is actually quite puppy dog golden retriever. Yeah,

770
00:33:56,584 --> 00:33:59,224
Speaker 2: Like he's very like I don't know him, so I

771
00:33:59,224 --> 00:34:01,704
Speaker 2: can't say this and makes me sound we don't know.

772
00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:02,944
Speaker 1: Any of these people yet we have a lot of

773
00:34:02,984 --> 00:34:04,064
Speaker 1: opinions women.

774
00:34:04,144 --> 00:34:06,344
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I want to say. He respects women.

775
00:34:06,464 --> 00:34:08,824
Speaker 2: That's what I get from his podcast. He just seems

776
00:34:08,824 --> 00:34:11,064
Speaker 2: like a really nice guy. But what I liked about

777
00:34:11,064 --> 00:34:15,384
Speaker 2: his relationship is that you can tell exactly like all

778
00:34:15,424 --> 00:34:18,104
Speaker 2: the ins and outs of her relationships just through her

779
00:34:18,144 --> 00:34:21,344
Speaker 2: Ears tour performance. So you see when she was like

780
00:34:21,384 --> 00:34:24,704
Speaker 2: with Joe Alwyn. There's like been so many videos of

781
00:34:24,864 --> 00:34:28,024
Speaker 2: after the Eras tour, He's like sprinting into a car,

782
00:34:28,184 --> 00:34:31,344
Speaker 2: like literally dragging her into a car like we know

783
00:34:31,544 --> 00:34:34,064
Speaker 2: now that like he liked the relationship with her to

784
00:34:34,104 --> 00:34:37,504
Speaker 2: be really private because he's also in acting. We watched

785
00:34:37,544 --> 00:34:39,704
Speaker 2: him in Kinds of Kindness. He didn't have that big

786
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:40,104
Speaker 2: of a part.

787
00:34:40,264 --> 00:34:41,264
Speaker 1: He was great in that movie there.

788
00:34:41,304 --> 00:34:44,224
Speaker 2: It was okay, but it was very much like we

789
00:34:44,304 --> 00:34:47,344
Speaker 2: now know that he the way they talk about it, it

790
00:34:47,344 --> 00:34:49,344
Speaker 2: almost felt like he was a bit embarrassed to be

791
00:34:49,344 --> 00:34:51,464
Speaker 2: in a relationship with her. So we saw that with

792
00:34:51,504 --> 00:34:53,984
Speaker 2: the Eras tour. We could then tell when they broke

793
00:34:54,064 --> 00:34:56,064
Speaker 2: up because she was just really sad for those few

794
00:34:56,064 --> 00:35:00,104
Speaker 2: performances Rip There's Last leg of the US and then

795
00:35:00,464 --> 00:35:03,664
Speaker 2: she got into a situationship with Mattie Healy.

796
00:35:03,984 --> 00:35:06,464
Speaker 1: Which was again a great moment in time for us

797
00:35:06,504 --> 00:35:09,104
Speaker 1: because Rememberham, people thought they were sending secret messages to

798
00:35:09,144 --> 00:35:11,064
Speaker 1: each other like they were mouthing because are both touring

799
00:35:11,384 --> 00:35:12,984
Speaker 1: and their tours are being filmed. What do you mean

800
00:35:13,024 --> 00:35:15,464
Speaker 1: people thought they were they were doing that. I'm trying

801
00:35:15,504 --> 00:35:16,864
Speaker 1: to just be a little bit have like a slight

802
00:35:16,904 --> 00:35:18,144
Speaker 1: grasp on reality here.

803
00:35:18,504 --> 00:35:21,104
Speaker 2: They can accept it. They were cringe as fuck, Okay.

804
00:35:20,864 --> 00:35:22,864
Speaker 1: They were saying I love you to each other in

805
00:35:22,944 --> 00:35:24,224
Speaker 1: different videos back and forth.

806
00:35:24,224 --> 00:35:26,064
Speaker 2: They're saying I love you, you know who you are,

807
00:35:26,184 --> 00:35:29,464
Speaker 2: and I'm like, ill, don't it to me yourselves Like,

808
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:30,624
Speaker 2: I'm just here and enjoyed.

809
00:35:31,424 --> 00:35:33,584
Speaker 1: I don't want to cup, I can't see it.

810
00:35:33,744 --> 00:35:36,184
Speaker 2: Just think, shake it off and get on with it. Okay.

811
00:35:36,424 --> 00:35:39,544
Speaker 2: So that happened. Then they broke up with the situationship.

812
00:35:39,584 --> 00:35:41,904
Speaker 1: She got real sad after that. Yeah, she released a

813
00:35:41,944 --> 00:35:43,824
Speaker 1: whole album just about that, but you really.

814
00:35:43,664 --> 00:35:46,424
Speaker 2: No situation ship breakups are way worse than the relationship breakup.

815
00:35:46,464 --> 00:35:48,624
Speaker 1: It's like when the Tortured Poets Department came out and

816
00:35:48,624 --> 00:35:51,584
Speaker 1: everyone's like, Joe's gonna get it, Like he's gonna there's gonna.

817
00:35:51,384 --> 00:35:53,584
Speaker 2: Be so many Maximum two songs and that I know

818
00:35:53,664 --> 00:35:56,424
Speaker 2: after six years together, and it was all Maddie Healy.

819
00:35:56,544 --> 00:35:58,824
Speaker 1: But obviously that just got under her skin in such

820
00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:02,184
Speaker 1: an intense I mean, I get it, I'm all for

821
00:36:02,304 --> 00:36:04,344
Speaker 1: It's like she was just the whole subtext of that

822
00:36:04,384 --> 00:36:07,184
Speaker 1: album is the audacity of that man, the absolute audacity.

823
00:36:07,424 --> 00:36:10,664
Speaker 2: I think what people enjoy about her and Travis is

824
00:36:10,664 --> 00:36:14,344
Speaker 2: that so different from Joe Alwin is that he is

825
00:36:14,424 --> 00:36:16,104
Speaker 2: so proud to be with her.

826
00:36:16,784 --> 00:36:18,784
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we don't know that Joe Alwen wasn't proud

827
00:36:18,824 --> 00:36:21,744
Speaker 1: to be He's just you don't know that Emily. They

828
00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:24,304
Speaker 1: were together for six years and he hid that for this.

829
00:36:24,664 --> 00:36:27,064
Speaker 1: He's just maybe a super private He's like a little

830
00:36:27,144 --> 00:36:30,264
Speaker 1: English private man. His family probably thought it was embarrassing.

831
00:36:30,264 --> 00:36:34,224
Speaker 1: And he's even an actor, you know, he's just a

832
00:36:34,264 --> 00:36:37,384
Speaker 1: confuse young man, whereas Travis just loves the spotlight. I

833
00:36:37,424 --> 00:36:39,944
Speaker 1: think people just loved especially the early days of their

834
00:36:39,984 --> 00:36:42,344
Speaker 1: relationship where you saw him her like going to the

835
00:36:42,344 --> 00:36:44,184
Speaker 1: game and stuff and being in the crowd. Is that

836
00:36:44,424 --> 00:36:47,704
Speaker 1: it played out like a really sappy but we love

837
00:36:47,744 --> 00:36:49,704
Speaker 1: them sappy romcom.

838
00:36:49,464 --> 00:36:51,944
Speaker 2: When he won the Super Bowl and you could tell

839
00:36:52,064 --> 00:36:53,904
Speaker 2: she got the ear cup to him singing Beaver Las

840
00:36:53,984 --> 00:36:56,944
Speaker 2: Vegas and then like he like attends like every single

841
00:36:56,984 --> 00:37:00,304
Speaker 2: Erastour concert and its like knows all the words like dancing,

842
00:37:00,944 --> 00:37:03,304
Speaker 2: she changed lyrics to make it about him.

843
00:37:03,424 --> 00:37:05,664
Speaker 1: Okay, that is actually a great moment because that was

844
00:37:05,704 --> 00:37:08,344
Speaker 1: the first time Travis had attendant and errors to her.

845
00:37:08,584 --> 00:37:11,504
Speaker 1: And so she's doing Calma, which is the final song.

846
00:37:11,864 --> 00:37:13,904
Speaker 1: She's doing that thing where she in the big sparkly

847
00:37:13,944 --> 00:37:15,824
Speaker 1: coat where she does the sidestep all the way down

848
00:37:15,864 --> 00:37:17,624
Speaker 1: the stage. How have I seen it the last song

849
00:37:17,664 --> 00:37:20,344
Speaker 1: of the conception, Yeah, and she changes the line to

850
00:37:20,624 --> 00:37:22,664
Speaker 1: Karma is the guy and the Chiefs coming straight home

851
00:37:22,704 --> 00:37:25,464
Speaker 1: to me, And you can just the energy of that moment.

852
00:37:25,544 --> 00:37:27,424
Speaker 1: I think why that's like such a viral video, but

853
00:37:27,464 --> 00:37:30,104
Speaker 1: also why I've weirdly watched about fifteen times is that

854
00:37:30,264 --> 00:37:33,464
Speaker 1: the reaction is something that you just can't recreate because

855
00:37:33,504 --> 00:37:36,424
Speaker 1: the audience just they just know so instantly what's happened,

856
00:37:36,624 --> 00:37:39,104
Speaker 1: and they all go crazy. But all her dances also

857
00:37:39,184 --> 00:37:41,904
Speaker 1: start screaming and clapping like they're very surprised around her,

858
00:37:41,904 --> 00:37:44,904
Speaker 1: and the look on her face is so joy but

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00:37:45,104 --> 00:37:47,944
Speaker 1: also just like she just loves that moment of like

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00:37:47,984 --> 00:37:50,344
Speaker 1: surprising the crowd and get a reaction, like she lives

861
00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:51,064
Speaker 1: off for the reaction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I just think she's really like I

863
00:37:53,784 --> 00:37:55,464
Speaker 2: don't know if she probably hates it, but I just

864
00:37:55,504 --> 00:37:58,744
Speaker 2: think she's really happy right now. Like even the song

865
00:37:58,784 --> 00:38:00,904
Speaker 2: that she wrote about him high school in that album,

866
00:38:00,944 --> 00:38:03,584
Speaker 2: it's crange as fuck, but it's so like you can

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00:38:03,624 --> 00:38:06,304
Speaker 2: tell she's really happy, yeah, and proud of that song.

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Speaker 2: It also has its own own choreography in the entire concert,

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00:38:09,624 --> 00:38:12,384
Speaker 2: and it's like one of the relationships of hers. Like

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Speaker 2: I did think this about Jake Jillen Horway, I really

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00:38:14,464 --> 00:38:16,544
Speaker 2: wanted them to last, but this one, I'm like, I

872
00:38:16,584 --> 00:38:18,424
Speaker 2: really want them to last because I just feel like

873
00:38:18,424 --> 00:38:20,384
Speaker 2: they're just having a good time. And it's nice to

874
00:38:20,384 --> 00:38:22,344
Speaker 2: see because I like both the same age or in

875
00:38:22,384 --> 00:38:25,984
Speaker 2: their thirties. They both have like separate careers, but it

876
00:38:26,024 --> 00:38:28,784
Speaker 2: feels like that they just really enjoy each other as people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've ever heard you so weird.

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00:38:32,584 --> 00:38:34,384
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm obsessed with them, but I am.

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00:38:34,424 --> 00:38:36,664
Speaker 1: It's weird. Well, just see again. It's there's no secret

880
00:38:36,704 --> 00:38:38,184
Speaker 1: to it. It's just like playing out like a rom

881
00:38:38,224 --> 00:38:40,064
Speaker 1: com and we're obsessed with that level. And they've given

882
00:38:40,144 --> 00:38:42,984
Speaker 1: us the difference as well. Okay, that's a weird thing

883
00:38:43,024 --> 00:38:45,584
Speaker 1: to bring up. They're both tall, right, He's obviously taller. Yeah.

884
00:38:45,584 --> 00:38:47,304
Speaker 2: I mean like because sometimes I feel like she's always

885
00:38:47,344 --> 00:38:47,944
Speaker 2: the tall one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's nice. I was also going to say, like,

887
00:38:51,024 --> 00:38:53,784
Speaker 1: we've just never had this level of access to We

888
00:38:53,824 --> 00:38:55,984
Speaker 1: get access to her romance in her life through her

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00:38:56,024 --> 00:38:58,544
Speaker 1: songs in a very kind of curated way that she

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00:38:58,584 --> 00:39:01,184
Speaker 1: wants us to see it, but we've never really seen

891
00:39:01,264 --> 00:39:04,744
Speaker 1: this much of one of her relationships play out to

892
00:39:04,784 --> 00:39:06,664
Speaker 1: this extent in the public eye, and she has a

893
00:39:06,664 --> 00:39:08,944
Speaker 1: whole different level of fame than she did when she

894
00:39:08,984 --> 00:39:11,224
Speaker 1: was dating Calvin Harris or of the you know, even

895
00:39:11,224 --> 00:39:12,784
Speaker 1: when she was together with Harry Styles for a bit

896
00:39:12,864 --> 00:39:15,344
Speaker 1: or one of the Kennedys, Like, we got bits and pieces,

897
00:39:15,384 --> 00:39:17,664
Speaker 1: but we never got like full video of them in

898
00:39:17,704 --> 00:39:20,624
Speaker 1: the stands at a football game, or like her running

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00:39:20,664 --> 00:39:23,264
Speaker 1: and jumping into his arms backstage and all that sort

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00:39:23,264 --> 00:39:25,304
Speaker 1: of stuff. So it's just like, I think the access

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00:39:25,344 --> 00:39:26,264
Speaker 1: is what people are loving.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today.

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Speaker 2: As a little reminder, we will still be putting out

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Speaker 2: new episodes over this holiday break. We hope you're enjoying yourselves.

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Speaker 2: If you're able to take some leave, we will be

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Speaker 2: back here in your podcast feed tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye.