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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Claire Murphy. This is Muma MIA's twice daily

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Speaker 1: news podcast, The Quickie. If you hear the words on

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Speaker 1: extorm and know immediately to turn this podcast off, hurry up, girl,

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Speaker 1: We want you in on this conversation so we can

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Speaker 1: share all our fan theories. Today we're breaking down the

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Speaker 1: incredible response to the third installment of Rebecca Yarris's Imperian

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Speaker 1: series books, the global sales, the fan theories, and the

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Speaker 1: future of Violet and Zaiden seemingly doomed Romance. But before

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Speaker 1: here's the latest from the Cookie newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Monday, February ten.

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Speaker 1: With an election date looming, Labour has outlined in Your

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Speaker 1: Initiative for Women's Health from March one, the Albanesi government

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Speaker 1: will invest five hundred and seventy three point three million

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Speaker 1: dollars to help lower costs and give women more options

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Speaker 1: when seeking treatment, including a new contraceptive pill to be

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Speaker 1: added to the PBS, the first one in twenty years.

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Speaker 1: It'll drop the price of dross peranone with ethnolestrodol from

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Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty dollars a year to one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty four forty if you have a concession card,

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Speaker 1: but it will be just thirty dollars eighty a year.

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Speaker 1: Medicare payments will also be increased for long term contraception

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Speaker 1: like IUDs and implants, moving to have the insertion and

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Speaker 1: removal processes bulk build, saving women around four hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a year in out of pocket expenses. Labour also plans

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Speaker 1: to invest twenty five point one million dollars in establishing

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Speaker 1: eight Centers of Training Excellence to ensure health practitioners are

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Speaker 1: better trained in the procedures. From July one, there will

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Speaker 1: also be a new Medicare rebate for menopause or women

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Speaker 1: be better trained in menopause treatment, developing the first ever

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Speaker 1: national clinical guidelines. They'll also expand the endometriosis and pelvic

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Speaker 1: pain clinics to staff specialists who can support women in

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Speaker 1: perimenopause and menopause. Three new menopause or hormone treatments will

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Speaker 1: also be listed on the PBS. From March one, Estradol,

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Speaker 1: progesterone and the combined pack will be listed on the

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Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical Benefit scheme, reducing yearly payments from between four hundred

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Speaker 1: also invest one hundred million dollars to support two national trials,

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Speaker 1: for UTIs and contraceptives over the counter at the pharmacy.

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump has appeared on Fox News saying he

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Speaker 1: expects to find billions of dollars of fraud and abuse

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Speaker 1: at the Pentagon when Elon Musk completes his ordered of

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Speaker 1: the largest federal department. Trump also revealed that in the

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Speaker 1: next twenty four hours he'll be instructing Musk to also

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Speaker 1: check the Department of Education and then the Military. Mask

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Speaker 1: who is a special government employee, has been asked to

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Speaker 1: at various government agencies, Critics saying the moves are illegal

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Speaker 1: Friends star David Schwimmer has issued a plea to ex

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Speaker 1: owner Elon Mask to ban Kanye West from the platform.

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Speaker 1: Schwimmer took to Instagram to share West's recent anti Semitic

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Speaker 1: spewing hatefield ignorant bile, but we can stop giving him

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Speaker 1: If the ending of Onyx Storm left you feeling shocked

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Speaker 2: Yet, but what the actual fuck? You just had a

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Speaker 4: I'm freaking out. Thirty pages to go. I have goosebumps.

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Speaker 4: I think Sloan is a lot stronger than we know.

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Speaker 4: So Imagen's second signet is fire. I had to just

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Speaker 4: reread that section like three times. Not cool hererek, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god, I loved it heads down.

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Speaker 2: That was epic.

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Speaker 1: The next few hours after that we discussed fan theories

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Speaker 3: I think that Papa Sorengel's research will be hidden within

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Speaker 3: Violet's other books, just like how the Fables of.

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Speaker 2: The Baron hid a warning letter for Violet.

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Speaker 3: My unhinged crack theory is that Theophany is actually Lira

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Speaker 1: So if you haven't read any of the books, here's

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Speaker 1: a really basic rundown. Violet Soaringau was meant to become

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Speaker 1: Now Scale's rider is the broody marked One Zayden. Violet

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Speaker 2: As the book's unfold, Violet.

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Speaker 1: And her gang of rebellious friends, family and enemies turned

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Yarris's Emperian series third installment sold an unprecedented two

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Speaker 1: Alisa Kelly co hosts the Main Character Syndrome podcast in

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Speaker 3: She did give us some little hints, feel like where

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Speaker 1: because she's very big on consent and making sure that

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Speaker 3: Of course, thanks for having me. It's definitely a fun

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Speaker 1: revelations and challenges ahead. Thanks for taking the time to

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