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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is mmams twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. So it's around this time where I usually

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Speaker 2: launch into a pitch about what's coming up on the

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Speaker 2: show today and then hello, She.

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Speaker 1: Usually throws to me Claire Murphy for all the latest

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Speaker 1: news headlines. Claire, Hello, Helo. Today we bring you a

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Speaker 1: special edition of The Quickie. It's The Quickie twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Year in review.

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Speaker 1: I think it's my favorite day the whole year because

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Speaker 1: from a federal election to Taylor Swift breaking the Internet

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Speaker 1: not once but twice, twenty twenty five had a lot

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Speaker 2: There was so much to get through. To buckle up

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Speaker 2: as we step you through some of the biggest stories

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Speaker 2: of the year, Claire, let's start way back at the top.

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Speaker 2: What happened in the world in January.

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Speaker 1: January twenty twenty five, sixteenth he might remember, a little

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Speaker 1: lawsuit was launched by Justin Baldoni. Oh this man. This

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Speaker 1: was the this is Us saga that has been continuing

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Speaker 1: on from twenty twenty four. So he started this lawsuit

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Speaker 1: against Blake Lively. They starred together in the Colin Hoover

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Speaker 1: book adaptation, and she had already been suing him for

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Speaker 1: some on set issues that include allegations of sort of

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Speaker 1: sexual inappropriateness, and he countersuit her for four hundred million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: the trial for Blake Lively suit actually begins in May

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Speaker 1: next year. She's suing him for five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: But in June the judge dismissed Baldoni suit, including Lively,

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Speaker 1: the pr the publicist, and the New York Times, who

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Speaker 2: Sure, I can't believe this saga is not over yet.

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Speaker 1: It is not over yet. We still have twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: on the nineteenth, you might remember that TikTok was supposed

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. This brought about one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: pieces of audio this year, which is the CEO of TikTok,

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Speaker 2: from Singapore, yes, and Singapore famously is not China. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever been a member of the Chinese Communist Party, Senator,

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Speaker 2: I'm Singaporean no, have you ever been associated or affiliated

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Speaker 1: No senator again out of Singaporean. It was actually banned

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Speaker 2: It went dark. It about twelve is hours depending on

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Speaker 1: Are, and you know, mom Tok had to take a

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Speaker 1: little break. Everyone all these TikTok creators freaked out. It

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Speaker 1: security of it being owned by a Chinese company. And

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Speaker 1: yet to be finalized. So as of December twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Something else Live and Kicking in the US in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Claire Trump two point zero. He was inaugurated

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of declarations about enforcing borders immigration,

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Speaker 2: A lot happened. You're forgetting one of the most important

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Speaker 1: This will happened on the same day, one day in January,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so February there was a couple of things that happened,

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Speaker 2: Okay, something else from February. This is where we had

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Speaker 2: Wrap up February and straight into March. Of course, it's

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Speaker 1: But then moving on, I don't even remember. Back in March,

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Speaker 2: One more from March Claire. It's what I want to

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Speaker 2: call a group chat fail, okay, but like of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a massive, massive fail, but it also

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Speaker 2: to me about Robert Irwin's photo shoot.

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Speaker 1: This really has been the year of Robert Irwin, and

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Speaker 1: we knew that he was growing up, little Bob, you know,

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Speaker 1: to make. And we are all impressed with you, Robert Irwin,

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Speaker 1: of course, from a very maternal mother. Okay, not that

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Speaker 1: we think you're incredibly good looking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, of course, Robert. Eh And if you are listening,

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Speaker 2: the invitation still stands. You are more than welcome to

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Speaker 1: Time, and we will act appropriately.

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Speaker 2: Also in June, Monash IVF they were embroiled in a

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Speaker 1: also gender inequity still exists, so do we actually have parody?

435
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Speaker 1: We can celebrate our wins obviously as we go, but

436
00:21:43,574 --> 00:21:44,654
Speaker 1: there are still some ways to go.

437
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Speaker 2: Okay. The final thing to touch on for June Claire

438
00:21:49,415 --> 00:21:51,175
Speaker 2: it's the Bezos Sanchez.

439
00:21:51,774 --> 00:21:53,734
Speaker 1: Wow, what a spectacle.

440
00:21:54,574 --> 00:21:57,974
Speaker 2: Spectacle that's the right word. This was so heavily watched

441
00:21:58,054 --> 00:22:03,014
Speaker 2: and critiqued. We're talking, of course, Jeff Bezos, Amazon Overlord

442
00:22:03,494 --> 00:22:07,975
Speaker 2: Lauren Sanchez. They got married in Venice two hundred plus guests.

443
00:22:07,975 --> 00:22:11,814
Speaker 2: It costs somewhere between seventy and eighty five billion aud

444
00:22:12,215 --> 00:22:14,135
Speaker 2: The guest list was interesting.

445
00:22:14,175 --> 00:22:17,174
Speaker 1: I think every Kardashian was invited. A couple of Jenners

446
00:22:17,415 --> 00:22:19,455
Speaker 1: in the mix. Oprah was there.

447
00:22:19,614 --> 00:22:24,134
Speaker 2: Oprah was there, Orlando Bloom was there fresh off the

448
00:22:24,215 --> 00:22:27,215
Speaker 2: split from Katie Perry. Yeah.

449
00:22:27,334 --> 00:22:30,134
Speaker 1: The part of the wedding preparation since stood out for

450
00:22:30,254 --> 00:22:33,694
Speaker 1: me was the phone party. I haven't been to a

451
00:22:33,695 --> 00:22:35,935
Speaker 1: phone party since the nineties or the early two thousands,

452
00:22:35,935 --> 00:22:38,175
Speaker 1: but Jeff Bezos chucked a phone party, not just any

453
00:22:38,175 --> 00:22:41,054
Speaker 1: old phone party, a phone party on a yacht, which

454
00:22:41,175 --> 00:22:42,614
Speaker 1: feels very dangerous to me.

455
00:22:42,854 --> 00:22:45,655
Speaker 2: That feels like an environmental red fla, I mean, yes,

456
00:22:45,734 --> 00:22:47,055
Speaker 2: but also very slippery.

457
00:22:47,054 --> 00:22:48,695
Speaker 1: And the last place you want to be slippery is

458
00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:51,174
Speaker 1: a super yacht, right, yes, because you'll end up in

459
00:22:51,215 --> 00:22:54,574
Speaker 1: the ocean. And I imagine the party wasn't without things

460
00:22:54,614 --> 00:22:57,574
Speaker 1: like alcohol. Like feels very dangerous, but also you do you.

461
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Speaker 1: But then there was a lot of protests, if you

462
00:22:59,975 --> 00:23:02,254
Speaker 1: remember rightly, because of where it was held in Venice.

463
00:23:02,294 --> 00:23:04,295
Speaker 1: A lot of the Venetian people were like, we do

464
00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:07,014
Speaker 1: not want you here because you are closing down areas

465
00:23:07,014 --> 00:23:09,014
Speaker 1: of the city that we now no longer have access

466
00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:10,614
Speaker 1: to in our own home.

467
00:23:10,895 --> 00:23:13,574
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was protesting from locals. There was protesting because

468
00:23:13,614 --> 00:23:16,374
Speaker 2: it also stopped tourism. It came to little bit of

469
00:23:16,375 --> 00:23:19,054
Speaker 2: a stand still while this spectacle was ongoing, and it

470
00:23:19,135 --> 00:23:21,535
Speaker 2: was just putting a lot of pressure on the environment

471
00:23:21,574 --> 00:23:24,774
Speaker 2: in the infrastructure around Venice. It happened. You can see

472
00:23:24,814 --> 00:23:27,335
Speaker 2: the photos online and draw your own conclusions.

473
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Speaker 1: It's had a lot of conversations about going over the

474
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Speaker 1: top on weddings these days too, because you know, with

475
00:23:31,734 --> 00:23:34,174
Speaker 1: the rest of us dealing with a financial crisis, with

476
00:23:34,254 --> 00:23:35,294
Speaker 1: the cost of living.

477
00:23:35,094 --> 00:23:36,054
Speaker 2: A bit on the nose.

478
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Speaker 1: All right, Well let's kick off July, shall we. And

479
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Speaker 1: we're starting with a story which has really terrified parents

480
00:23:42,814 --> 00:23:45,695
Speaker 1: this year because there was a childcare worker who was

481
00:23:45,774 --> 00:23:48,655
Speaker 1: charged with more than seventy child abuse of fences, including

482
00:23:48,814 --> 00:23:51,814
Speaker 1: sexual abuse. And this is an ongoing case of twenty

483
00:23:51,895 --> 00:23:55,375
Speaker 1: six year old Melbourne childcare worker Joshua Dale Brown. And

484
00:23:56,054 --> 00:23:59,655
Speaker 1: this really meant that parents had to reassess what they

485
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Speaker 1: do every day with their children, because when you take

486
00:24:01,415 --> 00:24:03,415
Speaker 1: your child to day care, you presume that you're taking

487
00:24:03,415 --> 00:24:05,975
Speaker 1: them to a safe space. You presume that people who

488
00:24:05,975 --> 00:24:09,254
Speaker 1: are looking after them have been correctly vetted and checked

489
00:24:09,294 --> 00:24:11,494
Speaker 1: to make sure that they are safe to work with children.

490
00:24:11,494 --> 00:24:14,014
Speaker 1: And the problem we're finding out now after this very

491
00:24:14,054 --> 00:24:18,455
Speaker 1: intensive ABC investigation, is that some of the things that

492
00:24:18,494 --> 00:24:21,454
Speaker 1: have been brought up about Joshua Dale Brown in the

493
00:24:21,494 --> 00:24:24,414
Speaker 1: past have maybe not been addressed in the way that

494
00:24:24,415 --> 00:24:26,574
Speaker 1: they should have been, and so that is part of

495
00:24:26,574 --> 00:24:29,494
Speaker 1: the investigation as to whether he should have still had

496
00:24:29,614 --> 00:24:31,455
Speaker 1: a working with children check at the time.

497
00:24:31,655 --> 00:24:35,095
Speaker 2: Yeah, this investigation really brought the childcare industry to its

498
00:24:35,135 --> 00:24:38,374
Speaker 2: knees and exposed a lot of inconsistencies and how we

499
00:24:38,415 --> 00:24:41,254
Speaker 2: monitor things like working with children checks, who has them

500
00:24:41,534 --> 00:24:44,974
Speaker 2: when they need to be maybe reassessed, and also how

501
00:24:45,254 --> 00:24:48,095
Speaker 2: the childcare centers that, like you said, clerk parents every

502
00:24:48,135 --> 00:24:50,814
Speaker 2: day are entrusting their children to be looked after, and

503
00:24:50,854 --> 00:24:54,254
Speaker 2: how they operate and what sort of safeguards are in place.

504
00:24:54,254 --> 00:24:57,294
Speaker 2: And it's really forced the industry's hand to enact some

505
00:24:57,614 --> 00:25:00,094
Speaker 2: better sort of regulation around that, and that is an

506
00:25:00,175 --> 00:25:03,935
Speaker 2: ongoing task. As of December this year, detectives have actually

507
00:25:03,975 --> 00:25:06,854
Speaker 2: issued him with even more were looking out about eighty

508
00:25:06,854 --> 00:25:09,814
Speaker 2: additional ones. Sort of towards the early point of July,

509
00:25:10,054 --> 00:25:13,215
Speaker 2: Claireweed All been watching on and covering the Aaron Patterson

510
00:25:13,334 --> 00:25:15,694
Speaker 2: mushroom trial for a few months at this point. It

511
00:25:15,734 --> 00:25:18,494
Speaker 2: started in April and we finally got a verdict. She

512
00:25:18,574 --> 00:25:21,574
Speaker 2: was found guilty on all those charges and then later

513
00:25:21,854 --> 00:25:25,574
Speaker 2: in September sentence to life with parole in prison, and

514
00:25:25,655 --> 00:25:27,774
Speaker 2: we do know that she will be appealing that decision.

515
00:25:28,094 --> 00:25:31,855
Speaker 1: All right, We're still in July, and something happened on

516
00:25:32,534 --> 00:25:34,934
Speaker 1: kiss cam that rocked the world.

517
00:25:35,375 --> 00:25:37,335
Speaker 2: This was like the right point in the year where

518
00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:38,055
Speaker 2: we needed this weeng.

519
00:25:38,175 --> 00:25:40,655
Speaker 1: We needed something a little bit lighter to happen because

520
00:25:40,655 --> 00:25:42,854
Speaker 1: a lot of darkness had happened up until that point.

521
00:25:43,094 --> 00:25:46,774
Speaker 1: But let's go to the Coldplay concept. There's a couple there.

522
00:25:47,014 --> 00:25:49,894
Speaker 1: They looked really cute, so kiss cam spotted them in

523
00:25:49,935 --> 00:25:52,574
Speaker 1: the crowd. The lady was standing in front of her

524
00:25:52,614 --> 00:25:54,415
Speaker 1: man he had his arms around her. They looked like

525
00:25:54,455 --> 00:25:56,655
Speaker 1: they were rocking out and having a great time. And

526
00:25:56,695 --> 00:25:58,975
Speaker 1: then when they realized that they were on kiss cam,

527
00:25:59,455 --> 00:26:03,014
Speaker 1: something changed. She ducked and hid, He turned away from

528
00:26:03,054 --> 00:26:05,975
Speaker 1: the camera, and Chris Martin, the lead singer of Coleplay,

529
00:26:06,054 --> 00:26:09,415
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they're they having an affair Like loll

530
00:26:09,814 --> 00:26:13,655
Speaker 1: turns out kind of true because Andy Byron, the CEO

531
00:26:13,695 --> 00:26:16,294
Speaker 1: of the tech firm Astronomer, who quickly found out was

532
00:26:16,494 --> 00:26:21,374
Speaker 1: the man and his colleague, Kristin Cabot, who was Astronomer's

533
00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:25,494
Speaker 1: or what was Astronomer's Chief people officer, were embracing unbeknownst

534
00:26:25,655 --> 00:26:27,734
Speaker 1: to their other significant others.

535
00:26:28,054 --> 00:26:28,814
Speaker 2: They're spouses.

536
00:26:28,814 --> 00:26:32,534
Speaker 1: They're spouses. So Kristin has since separated from her husband.

537
00:26:32,774 --> 00:26:35,854
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where Andy Byron stands cause the last

538
00:26:35,854 --> 00:26:38,574
Speaker 1: I checked, they were working on their marriage, so potentially

539
00:26:38,614 --> 00:26:42,014
Speaker 1: they are still together. But it also led to them

540
00:26:42,054 --> 00:26:42,814
Speaker 1: losing their jobs.

541
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Speaker 2: Well, and I mean this raised so many questions, right

542
00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:48,334
Speaker 2: there were group chats. I think there were podcasts that

543
00:26:48,455 --> 00:26:51,095
Speaker 2: debated it. I'm sure Mama mirat Love wanted to touch

544
00:26:51,175 --> 00:26:54,975
Speaker 2: on it. If you're gonna cheat, probably don't do it

545
00:26:55,014 --> 00:26:58,574
Speaker 2: at a coldplay concept where you can be caught on

546
00:26:58,774 --> 00:27:02,054
Speaker 2: JumboTron in what looked like the corporate company box. No.

547
00:27:02,175 --> 00:27:04,375
Speaker 1: Less, I think it felt like there were other colleagues

548
00:27:04,375 --> 00:27:07,135
Speaker 1: around them, because there was some in a foreground who

549
00:27:07,254 --> 00:27:09,455
Speaker 1: kind of like looked away like little busted.

550
00:27:09,695 --> 00:27:11,774
Speaker 2: Because then it became the question of did everybody at

551
00:27:11,854 --> 00:27:14,014
Speaker 2: work no, and they just let it happen and just

552
00:27:14,054 --> 00:27:14,695
Speaker 2: cover it up.

553
00:27:14,935 --> 00:27:17,494
Speaker 1: It was the pop culture moment I think of July

554
00:27:17,614 --> 00:27:18,415
Speaker 1: twenty twenty.

555
00:27:18,215 --> 00:27:21,455
Speaker 2: Five to get us over the hill of twenty twenty

556
00:27:21,455 --> 00:27:25,894
Speaker 2: five and led us nicely into August, where looking across

557
00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,734
Speaker 2: the world stage, Australia declared that it will recognize a

558
00:27:28,774 --> 00:27:31,895
Speaker 2: Palestinian state. Now, this was a question that was looming

559
00:27:32,294 --> 00:27:34,534
Speaker 2: for a really long time. At this point, lots of

560
00:27:34,574 --> 00:27:37,494
Speaker 2: other countries had signed on and said we will recognize

561
00:27:37,494 --> 00:27:40,655
Speaker 2: a Palestinian state, and that went a long way when

562
00:27:40,695 --> 00:27:43,455
Speaker 2: countries were coming together to meet for UN meetings.

563
00:27:43,455 --> 00:27:46,094
Speaker 1: So the thing about recognizing Palestine as a state is

564
00:27:46,135 --> 00:27:48,814
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as just we recognize it, and

565
00:27:48,854 --> 00:27:51,254
Speaker 1: so it is, because it is kind of a ready one,

566
00:27:51,254 --> 00:27:53,774
Speaker 1: but it's not one at the same time, so it's

567
00:27:53,854 --> 00:27:56,294
Speaker 1: not as easy saying it is so it shall be.

568
00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:58,134
Speaker 1: There is a lot of other conflicting factors, and of

569
00:27:58,175 --> 00:28:01,534
Speaker 1: course there are other countries who are not recognizing Palestine

570
00:28:01,534 --> 00:28:03,934
Speaker 1: as a state, including Israel obviously and one of their

571
00:28:03,975 --> 00:28:07,134
Speaker 1: closest allies. The US clearing that you will support a

572
00:28:07,135 --> 00:28:11,014
Speaker 1: Palestinian state is great, it's a start, but it doesn't

573
00:28:11,054 --> 00:28:13,215
Speaker 1: actually help the people of Palestine right now.

574
00:28:13,334 --> 00:28:17,414
Speaker 2: Also in August. Now, I told you Talorswift was going

575
00:28:17,455 --> 00:28:20,694
Speaker 2: to make an appearance multiple times in this podcast. She

576
00:28:20,774 --> 00:28:24,014
Speaker 2: sent the internet into meltdown when she announced a brand

577
00:28:24,094 --> 00:28:26,455
Speaker 2: new album, Life of a Showgur and Claire. Can I

578
00:28:26,534 --> 00:28:29,415
Speaker 2: say I wish that I chose to work from home

579
00:28:29,494 --> 00:28:29,895
Speaker 2: that day?

580
00:28:30,054 --> 00:28:33,055
Speaker 1: They's wild in here. There's tons of Swifties who work

581
00:28:33,054 --> 00:28:35,575
Speaker 1: at Muma mea like, and we're talking hardcore Swifties here,

582
00:28:35,975 --> 00:28:39,775
Speaker 1: and they took this news like children at Christmas.

583
00:28:40,055 --> 00:28:44,495
Speaker 2: I cannot even begin to tell you the decibel level

584
00:28:45,135 --> 00:28:50,094
Speaker 2: of squeal that this office was sent into. Our audio

585
00:28:50,094 --> 00:28:52,695
Speaker 2: producer lu and I, who are self proclaimed not Swifties,

586
00:28:52,775 --> 00:28:58,575
Speaker 2: not haters, but not Swifties, just could not understand and like,

587
00:28:58,614 --> 00:29:01,255
Speaker 2: I would love to love something that much. Yeah, but yes,

588
00:29:01,334 --> 00:29:03,614
Speaker 2: she announced the album. There was a countdown.

589
00:29:04,295 --> 00:29:06,935
Speaker 1: She did it on her friend podcast in the end, right,

590
00:29:06,935 --> 00:29:09,295
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, she got on New Heights because I'm

591
00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:12,215
Speaker 1: sorry she wasn't then. He was her boyfriend at the time,

592
00:29:12,215 --> 00:29:15,175
Speaker 1: not yet fiance. She got on New Heights and revealed

593
00:29:15,215 --> 00:29:16,374
Speaker 1: the album eventually.

594
00:29:16,535 --> 00:29:19,214
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was running in the halls. It was a

595
00:29:19,255 --> 00:29:21,215
Speaker 2: whole thing. I don't know how anybody did any work

596
00:29:21,255 --> 00:29:25,175
Speaker 2: that day. Yeah, okay, CLAIREMP, You've got the floor the

597
00:29:25,255 --> 00:29:28,615
Speaker 2: final episode of and just like that, as it says

598
00:29:28,655 --> 00:29:31,374
Speaker 2: here in our script in brackets, this is my moment,

599
00:29:31,455 --> 00:29:32,775
Speaker 2: ye Claire, take it away.

600
00:29:33,015 --> 00:29:36,015
Speaker 1: I know our colleagues on my Mireute Laud have been

601
00:29:36,055 --> 00:29:39,334
Speaker 1: talking about this throughout the entire time, and just like

602
00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:41,575
Speaker 1: that has been in existence, and I've never had the

603
00:29:41,575 --> 00:29:43,535
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak to them about it because it's not

604
00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,975
Speaker 1: come up when I've been allowed to go on the show.

605
00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:48,735
Speaker 1: So this is my time. I have been a Sex

606
00:29:48,775 --> 00:29:51,055
Speaker 1: and the City fan since day one. I own all

607
00:29:51,094 --> 00:29:54,095
Speaker 1: of the seasons on DVD. I rewatched them in order.

608
00:29:54,094 --> 00:29:56,815
Speaker 1: When the first movie came out, I did it again,

609
00:29:56,935 --> 00:29:58,735
Speaker 1: and then watched the first movie when the second movie

610
00:29:58,735 --> 00:30:01,695
Speaker 1: came out, Like I am, you're a fan, die hard fan.

611
00:30:02,535 --> 00:30:05,174
Speaker 1: So when this season was announced in just like that,

612
00:30:05,655 --> 00:30:09,175
Speaker 1: I was really excited. I was hoping it would capture

613
00:30:09,255 --> 00:30:12,015
Speaker 1: like the new era of where these women would be

614
00:30:12,055 --> 00:30:16,495
Speaker 1: in their fifties, and it tried really hard to do that,

615
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:23,015
Speaker 1: but it really bloody failed and I'm so disappointed. I

616
00:30:23,215 --> 00:30:25,735
Speaker 1: like the fashion is still fabulous, don't get me wrong.

617
00:30:26,135 --> 00:30:30,455
Speaker 1: The storylines were like weak at best. Some of the

618
00:30:30,614 --> 00:30:35,735
Speaker 1: characters were very token, and it felt so like they

619
00:30:35,854 --> 00:30:39,575
Speaker 1: had not progressed as human beings since the nineties. And

620
00:30:39,575 --> 00:30:41,495
Speaker 1: we've all progressed, like the fans who are watching that

621
00:30:41,535 --> 00:30:44,815
Speaker 1: show have grown up. We've you know, gone in different directions,

622
00:30:44,815 --> 00:30:47,895
Speaker 1: We've matured, we've got you know, we've all got different

623
00:30:48,135 --> 00:30:50,935
Speaker 1: hobbies and loves and dislikes. And it just felt like

624
00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:53,735
Speaker 1: they were the same people from the nineties, slightly older.

625
00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:58,215
Speaker 1: And I was relieved when it came to an end. However,

626
00:30:58,895 --> 00:31:00,654
Speaker 1: I feel like they could do it again and do

627
00:31:00,695 --> 00:31:01,055
Speaker 1: it better.

628
00:31:01,135 --> 00:31:02,655
Speaker 2: Oh really don't need it again.

629
00:31:02,695 --> 00:31:04,295
Speaker 1: I don't need it, But I reckon they could, and

630
00:31:04,375 --> 00:31:07,934
Speaker 1: I reckon they've got chance to redeem themselves. But just

631
00:31:08,015 --> 00:31:11,015
Speaker 1: not like this, and just not like that, and just

632
00:31:11,055 --> 00:31:11,495
Speaker 1: not like.

633
00:31:11,495 --> 00:31:15,695
Speaker 2: That, just not like that. Also happening in August this year,

634
00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:20,415
Speaker 2: a sovereign citizen whose name is now known across the country.

635
00:31:20,415 --> 00:31:24,535
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Desi Freeman Claire. Two police officers were

636
00:31:24,535 --> 00:31:28,495
Speaker 2: allegedly shot dead by Freeman when they attended his Poor

637
00:31:28,535 --> 00:31:31,894
Speaker 2: Punker property, which is in Regional Victoria. They were trying

638
00:31:31,895 --> 00:31:35,335
Speaker 2: to execute and arrest warrant for Desi Freeman. And now

639
00:31:35,455 --> 00:31:37,894
Speaker 2: it's alleged that he shot dead these two offices on

640
00:31:37,975 --> 00:31:43,094
Speaker 2: his property and then fled into the surrounding mountain landscape bushland.

641
00:31:43,455 --> 00:31:46,455
Speaker 2: And since that day Desi has not been seen. There

642
00:31:46,495 --> 00:31:50,255
Speaker 2: has been a mass search operation that brought the surrounding

643
00:31:50,295 --> 00:31:54,375
Speaker 2: communities of Poor Punker and surrounds to a standstill. People

644
00:31:54,415 --> 00:31:56,615
Speaker 2: were not allowed to leave, there were curfews, people weren't

645
00:31:56,614 --> 00:32:00,374
Speaker 2: allowed to come in, and they still have not found

646
00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:03,015
Speaker 2: this man. In fact, at the beginning of December this year,

647
00:32:03,614 --> 00:32:06,214
Speaker 2: the Victoria Police issued a state saying that they were

648
00:32:06,215 --> 00:32:09,415
Speaker 2: now moving their search to look for Desi Freeman's body.

649
00:32:09,735 --> 00:32:12,615
Speaker 1: But even then, we have no idea tell us about

650
00:32:12,895 --> 00:32:16,854
Speaker 1: Australia's interactions with Iran this year, because we've had a

651
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Speaker 1: few really weird and interesting sort of ASIO perspectives on

652
00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,855
Speaker 1: Iran's role in certain things that have happened here.

653
00:32:23,975 --> 00:32:26,374
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always get tickled when we talk about ASIO

654
00:32:26,495 --> 00:32:28,894
Speaker 2: because to me, ASIO, in case you didn't know, is

655
00:32:28,935 --> 00:32:32,455
Speaker 2: like the Australian Intelligence Organization and the ASIO bosses. Mike

656
00:32:32,495 --> 00:32:35,415
Speaker 2: Burger's AKA like the top spy, and I just feel

657
00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:37,854
Speaker 2: like we shouldn't know that man's name, let alone his face.

658
00:32:38,055 --> 00:32:39,015
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of press.

659
00:32:39,175 --> 00:32:42,614
Speaker 2: He's always out in the media anyway. Yes, Australia and

660
00:32:42,695 --> 00:32:46,654
Speaker 2: Iran frosty relationship in twenty twenty five. In fact, we

661
00:32:46,695 --> 00:32:49,454
Speaker 2: went as far as to expel the Iran ambassador and

662
00:32:49,575 --> 00:32:53,055
Speaker 2: other diplomats from Australia. And that came off the back

663
00:32:53,255 --> 00:32:57,414
Speaker 2: of reports that Iran the government were as involved in

664
00:32:57,455 --> 00:33:00,535
Speaker 2: some anti Semitic attacks that took place in Australia. So

665
00:33:00,815 --> 00:33:03,894
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like the fire bombings of synagogue of

666
00:33:03,935 --> 00:33:07,295
Speaker 2: the Jewish synagogues in places like Victoria, New South Wales,

667
00:33:07,575 --> 00:33:10,334
Speaker 2: and we were led to believe that the Iranian government

668
00:33:10,415 --> 00:33:12,975
Speaker 2: had an involvement in that, where we once thought maybe

669
00:33:12,975 --> 00:33:14,855
Speaker 2: that was like a lone wolf thing that happened here

670
00:33:14,895 --> 00:33:15,094
Speaker 2: on the.

671
00:33:15,094 --> 00:33:18,495
Speaker 1: Corresponse to the Israel Palestine conflict.

672
00:33:18,655 --> 00:33:21,694
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so yeah, it's a pretty big move that

673
00:33:21,735 --> 00:33:25,134
Speaker 2: the Australian government made and drew a pretty hard line

674
00:33:25,334 --> 00:33:29,535
Speaker 2: in the sand as well. Now moving on from diplomacy

675
00:33:29,854 --> 00:33:33,535
Speaker 2: to I still got Taylor Swift again, Yeah, because we

676
00:33:33,575 --> 00:33:36,615
Speaker 2: haven't done it enough. So like you know, the woman

677
00:33:36,655 --> 00:33:39,015
Speaker 2: announced the album, it sent the office into meltown. I

678
00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:40,735
Speaker 2: got no work done that day. It's all about me.

679
00:33:41,575 --> 00:33:44,934
Speaker 2: And then she ruined my day again. Okay, Claire, she

680
00:33:45,015 --> 00:33:47,975
Speaker 2: sent the Internet into meltdown again. This time she announced

681
00:33:48,015 --> 00:33:51,094
Speaker 2: that she was getting hitched to Travis Kelcey aka the

682
00:33:51,255 --> 00:33:55,695
Speaker 2: tight End for the Cheeks podcast. To Travis Kelcey. Yeah,

683
00:33:55,775 --> 00:33:57,055
Speaker 2: it was nice. Sure.

684
00:33:57,455 --> 00:34:00,295
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really happy for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey.

685
00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:02,495
Speaker 1: I hope they live a long and very happy life together.

686
00:34:02,935 --> 00:34:05,295
Speaker 1: The people are so invested and so I hope that

687
00:34:05,295 --> 00:34:07,455
Speaker 1: they're and all of our sakes this happy. Ever.

688
00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:10,335
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also Claire, Travis Kelsey has come out in

689
00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:12,055
Speaker 2: recent weeks and said that they can have a fight,

690
00:34:12,215 --> 00:34:14,495
Speaker 2: and like, that's a lie. I'm sorry.

691
00:34:14,614 --> 00:34:16,694
Speaker 1: I mean, for the majority of their relationship, she's been

692
00:34:16,694 --> 00:34:19,654
Speaker 1: on tour and he's been playing exactly, so they've barely

693
00:34:19,694 --> 00:34:21,535
Speaker 1: seen each other. We'll like come back to us.

694
00:34:21,694 --> 00:34:23,694
Speaker 2: When you say they never fight, you mean Taylor says

695
00:34:23,734 --> 00:34:24,655
Speaker 2: something and you say.

696
00:34:24,455 --> 00:34:27,774
Speaker 1: Okay, you say yes, miss Swift, whatever you say.

697
00:34:28,614 --> 00:34:31,694
Speaker 2: Also, very quickly to wrap up August, this is when

698
00:34:31,734 --> 00:34:35,614
Speaker 2: the whole Meloton and gummies for Kids debate began because

699
00:34:35,654 --> 00:34:40,575
Speaker 2: online retailers actually stop shipping melotonin gummings two Australian customers

700
00:34:40,855 --> 00:34:44,695
Speaker 2: over fears that kids were going to start overdosing on melatonin.

701
00:34:44,614 --> 00:34:46,415
Speaker 1: And I know that some parents have been really freaked

702
00:34:46,455 --> 00:34:49,374
Speaker 1: out by this, but some trips to the GP are

703
00:34:49,415 --> 00:34:51,775
Speaker 1: in order because you can get it over the counter

704
00:34:51,855 --> 00:34:54,455
Speaker 1: in pharmacy, but it does require a prescription, which I

705
00:34:54,495 --> 00:34:58,975
Speaker 1: know is annoying for some people. September September this was

706
00:34:59,015 --> 00:35:02,495
Speaker 1: a really interesting time because if you remember the very

707
00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:05,575
Speaker 1: beginning of September, on the tenth, Charlie Kirk was speaking

708
00:35:05,614 --> 00:35:09,975
Speaker 1: at a university in Utah and he was shot dead

709
00:35:10,174 --> 00:35:14,535
Speaker 1: by an assassin. And the fallout from that has been

710
00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:19,935
Speaker 1: really interesting because if anyone celebrated the fact that he

711
00:35:20,015 --> 00:35:22,895
Speaker 1: had passed away, because he was a right wing activist,

712
00:35:23,775 --> 00:35:26,575
Speaker 1: so people on the hard left were celebrating, which is

713
00:35:26,614 --> 00:35:29,455
Speaker 1: not what we do when someone is killed, because we're

714
00:35:29,535 --> 00:35:31,174
Speaker 1: humans at the end of the day, no matter where

715
00:35:31,174 --> 00:35:32,935
Speaker 1: you sit on the political spectrum. And he has a

716
00:35:32,935 --> 00:35:35,374
Speaker 1: young wife and a family and people who love him,

717
00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:38,015
Speaker 1: and that is just not how humanity should react, right.

718
00:35:38,174 --> 00:35:42,495
Speaker 1: It really highlighted our lack of humanity in twenty twenty

719
00:35:42,535 --> 00:35:45,055
Speaker 1: five in that we care more about where you stand

720
00:35:45,094 --> 00:35:47,214
Speaker 1: politically than we do about whether you're a human being

721
00:35:47,335 --> 00:35:47,535
Speaker 1: or not.

722
00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:50,815
Speaker 2: Also, just as an anecdote and a side point, Charlie

723
00:35:50,895 --> 00:35:54,334
Speaker 2: Kirk was one of the top Google search results for

724
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,335
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five as well, so this had mass implications

725
00:35:57,375 --> 00:35:59,655
Speaker 2: not just in the US, but literally across the world.

726
00:35:59,775 --> 00:36:00,095
Speaker 1: Yeah.

727
00:36:00,134 --> 00:36:02,815
Speaker 2: Something also from that month, Claire is the Optist triple

728
00:36:02,935 --> 00:36:06,294
Speaker 2: zero outage. So that actually resulted in debts two in

729
00:36:06,335 --> 00:36:10,775
Speaker 2: South Australia, one in Western Australia for parts of Wasa

730
00:36:10,935 --> 00:36:13,294
Speaker 2: and the Northern Territory. They were all without service for

731
00:36:13,495 --> 00:36:17,334
Speaker 2: thirteen hours, which is a horrifying thing because you think

732
00:36:17,335 --> 00:36:19,974
Speaker 2: triple zero is the fail safe, right and it wasn't.

733
00:36:20,015 --> 00:36:22,575
Speaker 2: It's nearly six hundred customers were unable to get through

734
00:36:23,174 --> 00:36:25,015
Speaker 2: for that reason. And then we found out as well,

735
00:36:25,094 --> 00:36:27,294
Speaker 2: on top of the triple zero outage that there were

736
00:36:27,335 --> 00:36:30,614
Speaker 2: many Samsung devices that were not able to be upgraded,

737
00:36:30,734 --> 00:36:33,294
Speaker 2: and that also was a factor in the article.

738
00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:36,295
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what it looks like is older Samsung models

739
00:36:36,295 --> 00:36:39,495
Speaker 1: and there is a list of them. They without the

740
00:36:39,535 --> 00:36:42,214
Speaker 1: software upgrade, have not been able to switch networks. So

741
00:36:42,295 --> 00:36:46,294
Speaker 1: when your provider goes down, you're in built into your

742
00:36:46,295 --> 00:36:49,015
Speaker 1: phone is the ability to connect to whatever another available

743
00:36:49,055 --> 00:36:51,015
Speaker 1: network is. So I believe it's like Optus I believe

744
00:36:51,015 --> 00:36:53,055
Speaker 1: then kicks over it either Telstra or Voter shown or

745
00:36:53,055 --> 00:36:55,854
Speaker 1: one of those, and then from that point on your

746
00:36:55,855 --> 00:36:58,254
Speaker 1: phone can make triple zero calls, but only through those

747
00:36:58,295 --> 00:37:02,854
Speaker 1: alternate networks. But some of those Samsung devices can't do that,

748
00:37:03,134 --> 00:37:04,815
Speaker 1: which is why some people have not been able to

749
00:37:04,855 --> 00:37:07,134
Speaker 1: call triple zero. This is an ongoing issue. There's been

750
00:37:07,174 --> 00:37:09,895
Speaker 1: another outages since then where people again not able to

751
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:13,415
Speaker 1: access triple zero. So I mean, is it a call

752
00:37:13,455 --> 00:37:15,214
Speaker 1: for a landline to come back? But we spoke to

753
00:37:15,455 --> 00:37:17,294
Speaker 1: Trevor Long at the time, a tech expert, and he

754
00:37:17,375 --> 00:37:20,214
Speaker 1: told us get a backup siem. You can put two

755
00:37:20,214 --> 00:37:21,895
Speaker 1: siems in your phone out to physical sims, or you

756
00:37:21,895 --> 00:37:23,615
Speaker 1: can get an e SIM in your phone as well

757
00:37:23,654 --> 00:37:25,975
Speaker 1: on another network, so you always have back up.

758
00:37:26,214 --> 00:37:28,375
Speaker 2: Claire, I would love to get your thoughts on this. I,

759
00:37:28,535 --> 00:37:30,935
Speaker 2: as a person who has never been pregnant, saw this

760
00:37:31,134 --> 00:37:34,855
Speaker 2: news and just thought that's insane without taking into account

761
00:37:34,935 --> 00:37:37,814
Speaker 2: the other layers at plague here. I'm talking, of course,

762
00:37:37,855 --> 00:37:41,415
Speaker 2: about when the US helped Secretary RFKA Junior Robert F.

763
00:37:41,455 --> 00:37:45,734
Speaker 2: Kennedy Jr. Went on stage and said that pregnant women

764
00:37:45,895 --> 00:37:49,975
Speaker 2: taking Taylanol, which also is known as paracetamol or panadole.

765
00:37:49,975 --> 00:37:54,935
Speaker 2: Here it could cause autism in their unborn children. Now,

766
00:37:54,975 --> 00:37:58,535
Speaker 2: I just thought this is ridiculous. There's a very tenuous

767
00:37:58,575 --> 00:38:02,575
Speaker 2: link that he's playing with their how crazy. But as

768
00:38:02,575 --> 00:38:06,055
Speaker 2: someone who's actually carried a child, I can only imagine

769
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:09,015
Speaker 2: all the things that you're thinking when you're pregnant. How

770
00:38:09,015 --> 00:38:10,575
Speaker 2: do I keep this baby alive? How do I make

771
00:38:10,614 --> 00:38:15,254
Speaker 2: sure that it's healthy and not taking painkillers? Maybe not?

772
00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:19,935
Speaker 1: There is no correlation between parastamal use and autism. It

773
00:38:20,094 --> 00:38:22,774
Speaker 1: just has not been proven. This is just one of

774
00:38:22,855 --> 00:38:24,455
Speaker 1: many things that that man has said this year that

775
00:38:24,495 --> 00:38:28,334
Speaker 1: are completely unsubstantiated health claims. And I mean, I don't

776
00:38:28,335 --> 00:38:29,814
Speaker 1: even know what to say in this day and age,

777
00:38:29,815 --> 00:38:32,974
Speaker 1: because you can't do your own research because online could

778
00:38:32,975 --> 00:38:35,175
Speaker 1: take you down any rabbit hole. We can only trust

779
00:38:35,214 --> 00:38:37,654
Speaker 1: medical experts and the TGA here in Australia who can

780
00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:40,335
Speaker 1: tell us what is safe for us and what isn't.

781
00:38:40,455 --> 00:38:42,695
Speaker 1: And they have made it very clear here in Australia

782
00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:46,015
Speaker 1: that panadole is safe for consumption by pregnant women.

783
00:38:46,134 --> 00:38:49,015
Speaker 2: And just to very quickly wrap up September Keith and.

784
00:38:49,055 --> 00:38:52,974
Speaker 1: The Cole split, we were devastated, devastated, Like we thought

785
00:38:52,975 --> 00:38:54,214
Speaker 1: they were lasting forever, but.

786
00:38:54,255 --> 00:38:58,575
Speaker 2: No, apparently married since two thousand and six, nineteen years

787
00:38:58,734 --> 00:39:00,654
Speaker 2: is as long as it lasts, and Nicole filed for

788
00:39:00,694 --> 00:39:04,575
Speaker 2: divorce a week after announcing the separation in a Nashville court.

789
00:39:04,734 --> 00:39:07,535
Speaker 1: Yep, there was some words that maybe he already had

790
00:39:07,575 --> 00:39:11,535
Speaker 1: another lady on the sidelines, but we don't know that, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

791
00:39:13,134 --> 00:39:17,134
Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to October, my birthday month, so very important, but.

792
00:39:17,415 --> 00:39:19,415
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even mention my turn thirty

793
00:39:19,455 --> 00:39:21,055
Speaker 2: this year in April.

794
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:23,215
Speaker 1: Ten thirty this year. How does it feel, You're okay

795
00:39:23,255 --> 00:39:24,415
Speaker 1: transitioning into the big three?

796
00:39:24,535 --> 00:39:27,214
Speaker 2: Er? I feel fine, it's fine. I'm tired, I feel

797
00:39:27,214 --> 00:39:27,535
Speaker 2: the same.

798
00:39:27,614 --> 00:39:30,015
Speaker 1: Moving on thirty was great for me. Just quietly, we'll

799
00:39:30,055 --> 00:39:32,535
Speaker 1: be great for you too, all right. October birthday month

800
00:39:32,775 --> 00:39:34,734
Speaker 1: kicked off on the very first day of October with

801
00:39:34,855 --> 00:39:37,375
Speaker 1: some really sad news, and that was with the passing

802
00:39:37,495 --> 00:39:42,815
Speaker 1: of icon and legend Jane Goodall ninety one. Though, Yeah,

803
00:39:42,935 --> 00:39:46,215
Speaker 1: and she was still out working to she actually died

804
00:39:46,295 --> 00:39:49,655
Speaker 1: whilst she was on tour doing speaking engagements. The woman

805
00:39:49,975 --> 00:39:53,614
Speaker 1: was relentless in her message of saving the environment and

806
00:39:53,654 --> 00:39:55,375
Speaker 1: making the world a better place for all of us.

807
00:39:55,455 --> 00:39:59,055
Speaker 1: So may she rest in peace. Veiled Jane Goodall. Also

808
00:39:59,495 --> 00:40:03,174
Speaker 1: some positive news where it comes to the issue going

809
00:40:03,214 --> 00:40:07,495
Speaker 1: on that was continuing between Israel and in Gaza, and

810
00:40:07,654 --> 00:40:10,334
Speaker 1: that was that the US had finally broken a peace deal.

811
00:40:10,694 --> 00:40:13,375
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was a multi phase piece steel which

812
00:40:13,415 --> 00:40:16,174
Speaker 2: at the time of recording, we are still technically in

813
00:40:16,295 --> 00:40:20,975
Speaker 2: the first phase. Hamas and Israel have agreed to a ceasefire.

814
00:40:21,094 --> 00:40:24,535
Speaker 2: Now trading of fire has still taken place since that

815
00:40:24,614 --> 00:40:28,374
Speaker 2: agreement was signed, but other things that were also brought

816
00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:31,535
Speaker 2: into effect. Humanitarian aid was allowed back in Palestinians were

817
00:40:31,535 --> 00:40:34,375
Speaker 2: allowed to return to Gaza. There's a new sort of

818
00:40:34,455 --> 00:40:37,174
Speaker 2: borders and parameters drawn up around the area. We've gone

819
00:40:37,214 --> 00:40:40,174
Speaker 2: into all the details in previous episodes of the Quickie.

820
00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:44,614
Speaker 2: For now it is instable, but it is holding. And

821
00:40:44,694 --> 00:40:48,174
Speaker 2: also as part of that, the last remaining alive Israeli

822
00:40:48,174 --> 00:40:52,935
Speaker 2: hostages within the confines of Palestine were returned back.

823
00:40:52,734 --> 00:40:55,415
Speaker 1: Home and remains of many others have also been returned.

824
00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:57,774
Speaker 1: And I believe there's only one as of us recording this,

825
00:40:57,775 --> 00:41:00,535
Speaker 1: there's only one person left outstanding whose remains have not

826
00:41:00,575 --> 00:41:04,174
Speaker 1: been repatriated. Interesting to see how this will unfold over

827
00:41:04,214 --> 00:41:06,614
Speaker 1: the next year and whether there will actually be a

828
00:41:06,654 --> 00:41:11,374
Speaker 1: piece in the region. Also, Kim Kardashian, in a very

829
00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:14,775
Speaker 1: big swings and roundabouts kind of month, launched a fashion

830
00:41:14,855 --> 00:41:18,214
Speaker 1: item which had many of us like wondering why we'd

831
00:41:18,255 --> 00:41:22,135
Speaker 1: all endured laser hair removal for so many years because

832
00:41:22,455 --> 00:41:24,535
Speaker 1: apparently the bush is back.

833
00:41:24,775 --> 00:41:27,934
Speaker 2: Yeah, said the bush is back, and we said, take

834
00:41:27,975 --> 00:41:31,694
Speaker 2: our money. She is capitalized on women's body hair or

835
00:41:31,815 --> 00:41:35,935
Speaker 2: lack bear off introducing these Skim's Ultimate Bush micro string

836
00:41:36,015 --> 00:41:39,894
Speaker 2: song with faux pubic. It's basically a murkin. It's a murkin, right.

837
00:41:40,255 --> 00:41:42,334
Speaker 2: I don't know who's wearing it, where and when and

838
00:41:42,335 --> 00:41:44,374
Speaker 2: with what outfit, But if you'd like one it.

839
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:46,935
Speaker 1: Or set your back about fifty bucks, I mean no,

840
00:41:47,055 --> 00:41:51,895
Speaker 1: thank you, Let's move on. Finally, after many, many, many

841
00:41:51,975 --> 00:41:55,975
Speaker 1: months and conversations and throwing back between the opposition and

842
00:41:56,255 --> 00:41:59,935
Speaker 1: the government here in Australia about his inability to make

843
00:41:59,975 --> 00:42:04,935
Speaker 1: this happen, Albo finally sat down with US President Donald Trump.

844
00:42:04,935 --> 00:42:06,934
Speaker 1: We don't know what they talked about, but they talked

845
00:42:06,935 --> 00:42:09,134
Speaker 1: about a few ranging issues, trade being one of them.

846
00:42:09,214 --> 00:42:12,855
Speaker 2: Yeah, the critical Resources minerals deal was signed. That's a

847
00:42:12,855 --> 00:42:15,734
Speaker 2: lot of work. That means stuff to some people. But

848
00:42:15,815 --> 00:42:19,495
Speaker 2: maybe the most important anecdote to come out of this

849
00:42:19,654 --> 00:42:23,254
Speaker 2: long which made me last standing meeting very high, is,

850
00:42:23,295 --> 00:42:25,575
Speaker 2: of course, one of the journals in the press pack

851
00:42:25,815 --> 00:42:28,495
Speaker 2: was saying to Trump's like, oh, you know, there's been

852
00:42:28,535 --> 00:42:32,855
Speaker 2: lots of criticism of you, obviously including that from Australia,

853
00:42:32,895 --> 00:42:36,575
Speaker 2: including that of the Australia's ambassador to the US, Kevin Rudd,

854
00:42:36,654 --> 00:42:39,654
Speaker 2: in which then Trump retorted with basically a roasting of

855
00:42:39,654 --> 00:42:42,174
Speaker 2: the man. Not even I don't like him. I don't

856
00:42:42,335 --> 00:42:44,535
Speaker 2: like him, I don't know him, it says to Albert Hope.

857
00:42:44,575 --> 00:42:45,815
Speaker 1: He still doesn't work for you.

858
00:42:46,214 --> 00:42:49,694
Speaker 2: And then cut to k Rudd was literally across the

859
00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:53,974
Speaker 2: table from this man. He's right there. K Rudd goes, hello,

860
00:42:54,015 --> 00:42:56,894
Speaker 2: I'm k Rudd. I am the ambassador, sir.

861
00:42:57,094 --> 00:42:58,895
Speaker 1: They all have a lull and he says that was

862
00:42:58,935 --> 00:43:01,175
Speaker 1: before I was doing this job.

863
00:43:01,775 --> 00:43:03,895
Speaker 2: And then Trump says, I don't like you either, and

864
00:43:03,935 --> 00:43:05,215
Speaker 2: I probably never will.

865
00:43:05,575 --> 00:43:07,774
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Kevin Rud's probably okay with that. To

866
00:43:07,815 --> 00:43:10,855
Speaker 1: be completely honest, he still has his job. Let's go

867
00:43:10,975 --> 00:43:13,654
Speaker 1: Royal now. In October because this was the beginning of

868
00:43:13,694 --> 00:43:16,495
Speaker 1: the end for Prince Andrew, who is prince no longer the.

869
00:43:16,535 --> 00:43:20,094
Speaker 2: Artist formerly known as the art formerly known as Prince Andrew.

870
00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:23,694
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the stripping of the titles began. So it

871
00:43:23,815 --> 00:43:26,174
Speaker 1: started off with his dukedom, amongst other things, that he

872
00:43:26,255 --> 00:43:29,895
Speaker 1: has loads of titles. He's you, has military titles, he

873
00:43:29,935 --> 00:43:32,535
Speaker 1: has royal titles, and they started to get stripped away.

874
00:43:32,614 --> 00:43:34,734
Speaker 1: As we know now it's due to the fact that

875
00:43:34,775 --> 00:43:40,134
Speaker 1: he has ties to the now deceased sexual predator, Jeffrey Epstein.

876
00:43:40,335 --> 00:43:42,174
Speaker 1: And it has come to light this year that there

877
00:43:42,214 --> 00:43:45,455
Speaker 1: has been more going on than we knew about. Andrew

878
00:43:45,495 --> 00:43:48,174
Speaker 1: had said in that interview that he had stopped conversing

879
00:43:48,255 --> 00:43:50,855
Speaker 1: with him. Emails were released that showed that that was

880
00:43:50,895 --> 00:43:53,455
Speaker 1: not true and that they were in fact still really

881
00:43:53,495 --> 00:43:56,654
Speaker 1: supportive of each other. And so the stripping of titles began,

882
00:43:56,734 --> 00:43:59,295
Speaker 1: and he's now just Andrew Mountbatten Windsor.

883
00:43:59,415 --> 00:44:01,455
Speaker 2: They stripped him of his birthright, which is to be

884
00:44:01,575 --> 00:44:04,455
Speaker 2: a prince. His brother is the person to make that call.

885
00:44:04,495 --> 00:44:07,535
Speaker 2: They also booted him out of Windsor Castle and its.

886
00:44:07,255 --> 00:44:09,094
Speaker 1: Still hasn't left the Royal Lodge. By the way, they're

887
00:44:09,134 --> 00:44:10,334
Speaker 1: still trying to kill out there.

888
00:44:10,495 --> 00:44:14,335
Speaker 2: Fergie's been told sort yourself out. Their daughters though Princess

889
00:44:14,335 --> 00:44:18,734
Speaker 2: Eugenie and Beatrice are still that, they are still princesses

890
00:44:19,174 --> 00:44:21,415
Speaker 2: as many of us young women dream to be now.

891
00:44:21,455 --> 00:44:24,055
Speaker 2: It also must be mentioned tier Claire that this also

892
00:44:24,214 --> 00:44:27,294
Speaker 2: comes at the time when the posthumous memoir from One

893
00:44:27,375 --> 00:44:30,135
Speaker 2: Virginia Dufray was released, who was one of the most

894
00:44:30,174 --> 00:44:33,094
Speaker 2: recognizable names when we talk about people who're victims of

895
00:44:33,734 --> 00:44:37,055
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein of crimes that he was committed of. She

896
00:44:37,134 --> 00:44:40,295
Speaker 2: also talks a lot, quite extensively about her own involvement

897
00:44:40,415 --> 00:44:43,735
Speaker 2: with Andrew mount Batton Windsor claims that he continues to

898
00:44:43,734 --> 00:44:47,174
Speaker 2: this day deny yep and there's been no formal investigation

899
00:44:47,335 --> 00:44:48,495
Speaker 2: in that regard.

900
00:44:48,255 --> 00:44:50,575
Speaker 1: Although there is calls for him to give evidence in

901
00:44:50,614 --> 00:44:53,535
Speaker 1: the US and he still has yet to respond to that.

902
00:44:53,614 --> 00:44:57,375
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there. From Princesses to Queens, Lily

903
00:44:57,415 --> 00:45:00,374
Speaker 1: Allen dropped the album I think probably if you can

904
00:45:00,495 --> 00:45:02,814
Speaker 1: maybe disregard that Taylor Swift's album came out this year,

905
00:45:02,935 --> 00:45:05,375
Speaker 1: the album of the year, West End Girl, Oh Yeah,

906
00:45:05,535 --> 00:45:08,495
Speaker 1: which really was commentary on her relationship with her now

907
00:45:08,614 --> 00:45:10,654
Speaker 1: I don't know if they divorced yet ex husband David

908
00:45:10,734 --> 00:45:14,134
Speaker 1: Arbor from Stranger Things, because she painted a not very

909
00:45:14,214 --> 00:45:17,975
Speaker 1: pretty picture still on the singer's vain though, Katy Perry

910
00:45:19,094 --> 00:45:21,734
Speaker 1: gone into a relationship that none of us saw coming, Like.

911
00:45:21,815 --> 00:45:23,575
Speaker 2: I want to know who put these two people in

912
00:45:23,575 --> 00:45:25,775
Speaker 2: a room together. Were of course talking about Katy Perry,

913
00:45:25,975 --> 00:45:30,055
Speaker 2: the pop star, the space adventurer, astronaut if you don't

914
00:45:30,055 --> 00:45:32,174
Speaker 2: mind the astronaut. I think I called her a cosmonaut

915
00:45:32,174 --> 00:45:35,815
Speaker 2: before Russian's version, but yeah, close enough. And the former

916
00:45:35,855 --> 00:45:38,575
Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

917
00:45:38,734 --> 00:45:41,055
Speaker 1: I mean all of us have had those thoughts about

918
00:45:41,134 --> 00:45:44,135
Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau at some stage. He's a very dashing looking fellow.

919
00:45:44,495 --> 00:45:46,975
Speaker 1: They've started a relationship and then it seemed to fizzle

920
00:45:47,015 --> 00:45:48,375
Speaker 1: out for a minute. We're like, oh, maybe they just

921
00:45:48,455 --> 00:45:50,575
Speaker 1: kind of hooked up and had a little moment. But

922
00:45:50,694 --> 00:45:53,134
Speaker 1: now they seem to be in like quite a great relationship.

923
00:45:53,134 --> 00:45:55,894
Speaker 1: They've formerly launched on Instagram. She's been going with him

924
00:45:55,895 --> 00:45:58,015
Speaker 1: on his little tours around the world where he's doing

925
00:45:58,094 --> 00:45:59,535
Speaker 1: some kind of diplomatic work.

926
00:45:59,895 --> 00:46:03,334
Speaker 2: Can I say interesting? They hard launched their relationship in

927
00:46:03,535 --> 00:46:06,294
Speaker 2: September when they popped up to get on a date

928
00:46:06,654 --> 00:46:10,334
Speaker 2: at not something crazy horse in Paris, like the burlesque shot.

929
00:46:10,415 --> 00:46:12,294
Speaker 1: It's such a strange spot to begin.

930
00:46:12,614 --> 00:46:14,734
Speaker 2: I have so many questions about this relationship.

931
00:46:14,734 --> 00:46:17,015
Speaker 1: But good for them. I mean, if they're happy, go

932
00:46:17,094 --> 00:46:20,214
Speaker 1: for it. It just was an odd pairing. Now. One

933
00:46:20,255 --> 00:46:22,254
Speaker 1: thing that really threw Australians into a bit of a

934
00:46:22,295 --> 00:46:26,055
Speaker 1: tizzy in October twenty twenty five was the revamp of

935
00:46:26,174 --> 00:46:29,094
Speaker 1: the Bureau of Meteorologies website. If you don't know who

936
00:46:29,094 --> 00:46:31,134
Speaker 1: the Bomb are, they give us the weather every day

937
00:46:31,614 --> 00:46:34,535
Speaker 1: and we've been relying on this website since twenty ten

938
00:46:35,094 --> 00:46:37,335
Speaker 1: and it is quite extensive. Gives us a lot of warnings,

939
00:46:37,415 --> 00:46:39,055
Speaker 1: especially with the climate the way that it is, there's

940
00:46:39,094 --> 00:46:40,895
Speaker 1: lots of inclement weather that we need to know about.

941
00:46:41,134 --> 00:46:43,174
Speaker 1: And people were very happy with things like radars etc.

942
00:46:43,495 --> 00:46:46,935
Speaker 1: On the bomb website. They upgraded. Everyone lost their collective minds.

943
00:46:46,975 --> 00:46:49,415
Speaker 1: There was also a lot of issues around whether people

944
00:46:49,495 --> 00:46:52,455
Speaker 1: actually got warnings or not, or were able to find

945
00:46:52,535 --> 00:46:54,855
Speaker 1: things on the website. Apparently you can still see the

946
00:46:54,855 --> 00:46:56,975
Speaker 1: old one if you absolutely want to and hate the

947
00:46:57,015 --> 00:46:57,855
Speaker 1: new one so much.

948
00:46:57,935 --> 00:47:00,535
Speaker 2: But this story was like, and I hate that I'm

949
00:47:00,575 --> 00:47:03,935
Speaker 2: about to say this it was the perfect storm. Stop

950
00:47:04,214 --> 00:47:05,455
Speaker 2: Bomb thought it was a good way to get to

951
00:47:05,855 --> 00:47:08,334
Speaker 2: launch a new website during a period of time where

952
00:47:08,335 --> 00:47:11,935
Speaker 2: there were severe weather warnings in multiple parts of our country.

953
00:47:12,174 --> 00:47:13,614
Speaker 1: A cyclone was happening, there was a.

954
00:47:13,495 --> 00:47:16,814
Speaker 2: Cyclone, and there was a severe rain. There was a

955
00:47:16,815 --> 00:47:18,774
Speaker 2: lot of crazy weather in lots of different states. So

956
00:47:18,815 --> 00:47:22,415
Speaker 2: it affected people greatly and differently. Farmers were really upset

957
00:47:22,455 --> 00:47:25,614
Speaker 2: because I couldn't get their livestock in order. People didn't

958
00:47:25,654 --> 00:47:29,174
Speaker 2: know when damaging winds were coming, surf conditions. At some point,

959
00:47:29,295 --> 00:47:32,535
Speaker 2: people reported that the radar was just completely blank for them.

960
00:47:32,535 --> 00:47:34,894
Speaker 2: They couldn't even access it. And then cut a long

961
00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:39,614
Speaker 2: story short. After the Bomb website launch failed, they didn't

962
00:47:39,614 --> 00:47:41,894
Speaker 2: want to take anyone's calls, including ours. We did try

963
00:47:41,935 --> 00:47:44,055
Speaker 2: to speak to Bob about this, and then it was

964
00:47:44,094 --> 00:47:45,415
Speaker 2: revealed how much it cost.

965
00:47:45,855 --> 00:47:48,614
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking nearly one hundred million dollars. And it

966
00:47:48,654 --> 00:47:51,094
Speaker 1: has since been clarified that that's not just to revamp

967
00:47:51,134 --> 00:47:53,015
Speaker 1: the website. There's a lot that goes on in the

968
00:47:53,015 --> 00:47:55,414
Speaker 1: back end of all of those thousands of little weather

969
00:47:55,495 --> 00:47:58,655
Speaker 1: reporting you know, technology they have based around the country

970
00:47:58,694 --> 00:48:01,294
Speaker 1: to feed into that website. And then a supercomputer that

971
00:48:01,335 --> 00:48:03,575
Speaker 1: sucks all that information in and then predicts the weather

972
00:48:03,654 --> 00:48:07,134
Speaker 1: and then converts that like a lot. But yeah, it

973
00:48:07,174 --> 00:48:11,295
Speaker 1: seemed like a fairly high price tag for a website revamp.

974
00:48:11,335 --> 00:48:12,895
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, people were not impressed.

975
00:48:12,895 --> 00:48:15,214
Speaker 1: But we need to know what the weather is. It's

976
00:48:15,255 --> 00:48:16,694
Speaker 1: getting harder to predict.

977
00:48:18,055 --> 00:48:20,614
Speaker 2: Onward to November and this is just a thing that

978
00:48:20,654 --> 00:48:23,375
Speaker 2: I want to touch on across November, but also in

979
00:48:23,415 --> 00:48:26,734
Speaker 2: general across the Victorian State government, which I didn't think

980
00:48:26,734 --> 00:48:28,335
Speaker 2: we would focus on this, but it does need to

981
00:48:28,335 --> 00:48:30,055
Speaker 2: be noted had a bit of a cracker of a

982
00:48:30,134 --> 00:48:32,695
Speaker 2: year in what they were doing as a government.

983
00:48:32,694 --> 00:48:33,335
Speaker 1: It's been busy.

984
00:48:33,455 --> 00:48:35,414
Speaker 2: She's been very busy. We've spoken to actually a couple

985
00:48:35,495 --> 00:48:37,775
Speaker 2: of times this year on the Quickie and in previous

986
00:48:37,815 --> 00:48:40,055
Speaker 2: years as well. A few things just to note that

987
00:48:40,094 --> 00:48:43,015
Speaker 2: stand out for me. In November, we had just into

988
00:48:43,055 --> 00:48:45,295
Speaker 2: alan on and the next day she announced the adult

989
00:48:45,335 --> 00:48:48,174
Speaker 2: time for violent crime laws they were proposing that we

990
00:48:48,214 --> 00:48:52,455
Speaker 2: should basically sign into law. And this has now gone

991
00:48:52,495 --> 00:48:56,575
Speaker 2: through children as young as fourteen years old being handed

992
00:48:56,895 --> 00:49:00,535
Speaker 2: quite harsh and severe sentences, jail sentences for what they're

993
00:49:00,535 --> 00:49:03,614
Speaker 2: calling violent crimes. So there's aggravated burglaries and that kind

994
00:49:03,694 --> 00:49:06,495
Speaker 2: of thing. Victoria does have a very high stat of

995
00:49:06,815 --> 00:49:11,455
Speaker 2: young people offending. Also in the same month, though on

996
00:49:11,535 --> 00:49:14,255
Speaker 2: a different end of the spectrum, Victoria became the first

997
00:49:14,255 --> 00:49:17,495
Speaker 2: state in Australia to sign in a First Nations treatment.

998
00:49:17,535 --> 00:49:20,094
Speaker 2: It's the first one we've had at any state sort

999
00:49:20,094 --> 00:49:23,175
Speaker 2: of level, so that in itself is a pretty historic

1000
00:49:23,455 --> 00:49:25,495
Speaker 2: and landmark making law.

1001
00:49:25,535 --> 00:49:28,415
Speaker 1: I Also this year they had the Women's Pain Inquiry,

1002
00:49:28,855 --> 00:49:32,775
Speaker 1: which they you know, table to report on, which recommended

1003
00:49:32,775 --> 00:49:34,734
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff to help women, you know,

1004
00:49:34,855 --> 00:49:37,975
Speaker 1: including the Green Whistle Initiative, which is for women getting

1005
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:41,094
Speaker 1: IUD insertions who have been telling doctors for many, many

1006
00:49:41,134 --> 00:49:43,975
Speaker 1: years that hurt hurts, and yet not many have had

1007
00:49:44,055 --> 00:49:46,535
Speaker 1: much pain relief beyond you know, take a little bit of.

1008
00:49:46,734 --> 00:49:50,015
Speaker 2: Take a pandel and a light vaccinal life a light

1009
00:49:50,094 --> 00:49:50,975
Speaker 2: down and so.

1010
00:49:51,174 --> 00:49:55,335
Speaker 1: The Green Whistle Initiative it's a drug that does help

1011
00:49:55,415 --> 00:49:58,694
Speaker 1: with pain management. And so you know, that's been rolled

1012
00:49:58,694 --> 00:50:00,535
Speaker 1: out across Victoria. So they have been very busy and

1013
00:50:00,535 --> 00:50:02,694
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of opinions about certain parts of

1014
00:50:02,734 --> 00:50:05,134
Speaker 1: the legislation that has gone through and like, well, you

1015
00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:07,134
Speaker 1: might not agree with some of the legislation that's been

1016
00:50:07,174 --> 00:50:09,654
Speaker 1: put through. I mean, we have to note that the

1017
00:50:09,734 --> 00:50:12,374
Speaker 1: Victorian government has achieved a lot.

1018
00:50:12,455 --> 00:50:15,614
Speaker 2: Well, they've executed, they have, yeah, okay, speaking of people

1019
00:50:15,614 --> 00:50:18,455
Speaker 2: who've executed. The Libs finally made a decision about a

1020
00:50:18,575 --> 00:50:22,334
Speaker 2: thing beyond voting in Susan Lee as their leader this year.

1021
00:50:22,415 --> 00:50:24,254
Speaker 2: One of the first big things that she needed to

1022
00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:25,894
Speaker 2: decide is whether the Lib's going to stay or where

1023
00:50:25,895 --> 00:50:28,254
Speaker 2: they're going to go and dump net zero. Following on

1024
00:50:28,295 --> 00:50:29,375
Speaker 2: from their counterparts with.

1025
00:50:29,415 --> 00:50:31,535
Speaker 1: The Nationals had kind of come out and said we

1026
00:50:31,535 --> 00:50:32,015
Speaker 1: don't want it.

1027
00:50:32,455 --> 00:50:34,174
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's up to you. And they've been on again,

1028
00:50:34,214 --> 00:50:35,975
Speaker 2: off again this year, so they really needed to do

1029
00:50:36,055 --> 00:50:38,695
Speaker 2: something to regain the love and support of the Nats.

1030
00:50:38,935 --> 00:50:42,134
Speaker 2: And so they did, after what felt like some very long,

1031
00:50:42,214 --> 00:50:45,495
Speaker 2: protracted consultation with every member of the party, and let's

1032
00:50:45,535 --> 00:50:48,134
Speaker 2: remember they lost the election, there were fewer members to

1033
00:50:48,174 --> 00:50:51,174
Speaker 2: consult with this time round. The Libs have in fact

1034
00:50:51,375 --> 00:50:55,374
Speaker 2: dumped net zero. Something else that happened in November, which

1035
00:50:55,415 --> 00:50:58,734
Speaker 2: is not funny but is kind of funny, is the

1036
00:50:58,815 --> 00:51:00,134
Speaker 2: Louver heist feels like.

1037
00:51:00,094 --> 00:51:00,855
Speaker 1: A movie plot.

1038
00:51:01,055 --> 00:51:04,214
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, maybe that's where they got the inspiration from

1039
00:51:04,495 --> 00:51:08,854
Speaker 2: essentially four thee disguised themselves as construction workers. They used

1040
00:51:08,855 --> 00:51:11,454
Speaker 2: a truck mounted lift to reach up to a second

1041
00:51:11,495 --> 00:51:14,575
Speaker 2: floor balcony at the Louver, the very famous museum in Paris.

1042
00:51:14,855 --> 00:51:17,935
Speaker 2: They broke a window, they entered the museum, and within

1043
00:51:18,055 --> 00:51:19,814
Speaker 2: like seven or eight minutes they were in and out.

1044
00:51:19,815 --> 00:51:22,614
Speaker 2: They'd stolen a bunch of jewels, including stuff that was

1045
00:51:23,214 --> 00:51:26,775
Speaker 2: gifted to Napoleon Bonaparte, still never to be seen again.

1046
00:51:26,815 --> 00:51:29,694
Speaker 2: But the wash up of this Claire turns up the

1047
00:51:29,734 --> 00:51:31,334
Speaker 2: Loof doesn't have very good security.

1048
00:51:31,495 --> 00:51:35,094
Speaker 1: My favorite, of course, is that under some kind of

1049
00:51:35,134 --> 00:51:38,415
Speaker 1: security audit that was done, they found out that one

1050
00:51:38,415 --> 00:51:42,375
Speaker 1: of their security passwords was louve. Yeah, it may as

1051
00:51:42,415 --> 00:51:46,334
Speaker 1: well be yes, welcome in open password one two three.

1052
00:51:46,535 --> 00:51:49,055
Speaker 1: It's what that feels like. And as you said, those

1053
00:51:49,094 --> 00:51:52,774
Speaker 1: Crown jewels have not been found, and there is a

1054
00:51:52,815 --> 00:51:55,134
Speaker 1: lot of questions about whether they've already been dismantled and

1055
00:51:55,174 --> 00:51:57,134
Speaker 1: sold off and whether we'll ever see them. Every other

1056
00:51:57,295 --> 00:51:59,535
Speaker 1: very oceans eight, if very oceans eight.

1057
00:52:00,015 --> 00:52:06,575
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm gonna admit something here, so we're about

1058
00:52:06,575 --> 00:52:09,774
Speaker 2: to talk about Wicked Part two for good. Yes, I

1059
00:52:09,855 --> 00:52:15,055
Speaker 2: have seen forty five minutes of Wicked Part one. Really,

1060
00:52:15,094 --> 00:52:17,535
Speaker 2: I watched it on a television in a hotel room

1061
00:52:17,575 --> 00:52:20,815
Speaker 2: in Indonesia earlier this year. I've not yet seen Wicked

1062
00:52:20,815 --> 00:52:23,135
Speaker 2: Part two. You're going to have to do the heavy lifting.

1063
00:52:23,255 --> 00:52:25,495
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's just say that twenty twenty five has

1064
00:52:25,495 --> 00:52:28,094
Speaker 1: been the year of Ariana and Cynthia. Okay, because they

1065
00:52:28,134 --> 00:52:31,335
Speaker 1: have been on the press tour. It feels like forever

1066
00:52:31,614 --> 00:52:35,254
Speaker 1: for these two movies for Good for Good, and it

1067
00:52:35,295 --> 00:52:38,015
Speaker 1: has shown this beautiful relationship between two women who have

1068
00:52:38,015 --> 00:52:41,935
Speaker 1: been incredibly supportive. They're so extremely talented and they just

1069
00:52:42,134 --> 00:52:45,495
Speaker 1: love each other. And so there've been you know, finger holding,

1070
00:52:45,535 --> 00:52:48,015
Speaker 1: in hand holding and doing all the things and wearing

1071
00:52:48,055 --> 00:52:50,854
Speaker 1: incredible outfits while they've been doing it, and it just

1072
00:52:51,055 --> 00:52:54,094
Speaker 1: I think has really made a lot of people just

1073
00:52:54,335 --> 00:52:57,614
Speaker 1: smile at their compassion and emotion as they've done these

1074
00:52:57,654 --> 00:53:00,134
Speaker 1: press tours. But this, yeah, Wicked for two Part Good,

1075
00:53:00,614 --> 00:53:03,294
Speaker 1: So this is it. I haven't seen it yet, but

1076
00:53:03,775 --> 00:53:06,294
Speaker 1: I've been told that it is X and all the

1077
00:53:06,335 --> 00:53:09,135
Speaker 1: stars who are in it obviously, as I mentioned, superingly talented,

1078
00:53:09,134 --> 00:53:10,935
Speaker 1: so they've done an incredible job. They do have some

1079
00:53:11,134 --> 00:53:14,215
Speaker 1: nominations for awards coming up as well. But I think

1080
00:53:14,255 --> 00:53:17,614
Speaker 1: that overarchingly, the relationship between these two stars is what

1081
00:53:17,694 --> 00:53:20,694
Speaker 1: has won out over everything. And I would love to

1082
00:53:20,734 --> 00:53:22,975
Speaker 1: see them work together again in some other capacity, but

1083
00:53:23,055 --> 00:53:24,335
Speaker 1: I don't know if they could ever top this.

1084
00:53:25,335 --> 00:53:27,694
Speaker 2: I I have stopped listening and I'm just thinking about

1085
00:53:27,734 --> 00:53:28,775
Speaker 2: should we hold fingers?

1086
00:53:30,575 --> 00:53:32,815
Speaker 1: Should we do it to hold space for some fingerhold?

1087
00:53:33,855 --> 00:53:36,414
Speaker 2: That's the that's the space that we've held between each other.

1088
00:53:36,935 --> 00:53:40,094
Speaker 2: Do you want to be Cynthia or Ariana? I think

1089
00:53:40,094 --> 00:53:42,055
Speaker 2: I want to be Cynthia, But say I think that

1090
00:53:42,055 --> 00:53:44,134
Speaker 2: we both this is the problems why it's not going

1091
00:53:44,214 --> 00:53:45,055
Speaker 2: to work. We're both kind of.

1092
00:53:45,495 --> 00:53:47,375
Speaker 1: Both a bit since sorry, Ariana?

1093
00:53:47,495 --> 00:53:50,935
Speaker 2: Like, okay, moving on. You can spit on a on

1094
00:53:50,975 --> 00:53:53,175
Speaker 2: a stick and find it if you're pregnant noway.

1095
00:53:53,055 --> 00:53:55,575
Speaker 1: And how interesting some medical breakthroughs this year. And I

1096
00:53:55,614 --> 00:53:57,214
Speaker 1: don't think you actually spit on a stick. That's a

1097
00:53:57,335 --> 00:53:59,814
Speaker 1: lovely visual to leave us with. But no, the first

1098
00:53:59,935 --> 00:54:03,094
Speaker 1: ever saliva pregnancy test was made available in Australian pharmacies

1099
00:54:03,134 --> 00:54:05,294
Speaker 1: this year. So instead of wing on a stick, which

1100
00:54:05,335 --> 00:54:06,855
Speaker 1: is what we've all been doing for a long time,

1101
00:54:07,295 --> 00:54:09,575
Speaker 1: is you just get like you would a DNA test

1102
00:54:09,575 --> 00:54:11,895
Speaker 1: for example, or one of those ancestry tests. Is a

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00:54:11,895 --> 00:54:13,774
Speaker 1: stick you to scrape it on the inside of your mouth,

1104
00:54:13,895 --> 00:54:17,334
Speaker 1: send it and it is. It detects the very same

1105
00:54:17,375 --> 00:54:18,774
Speaker 1: hormones weing on a stick does.

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00:54:18,855 --> 00:54:21,135
Speaker 2: It's great another orifice and use. That's what I always

1107
00:54:21,174 --> 00:54:26,735
Speaker 2: say to you. Well, let's go very quickly overrun next topic.

1108
00:54:26,815 --> 00:54:30,694
Speaker 2: Then Pauline Hanson has pulled a burker two point oh

1109
00:54:30,815 --> 00:54:34,134
Speaker 2: star in the Senate. Now, you actually spoke to Fatima

1110
00:54:34,214 --> 00:54:38,015
Speaker 2: payment about this the day after Payne wandered out onto

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00:54:38,015 --> 00:54:40,895
Speaker 2: the Senate floor wearing a burker. Claire like, what was

1112
00:54:40,935 --> 00:54:41,495
Speaker 2: the point?

1113
00:54:42,015 --> 00:54:43,935
Speaker 1: So she has done this before, many years ago. But

1114
00:54:44,335 --> 00:54:46,855
Speaker 1: her idea is that it's a national security threat in

1115
00:54:46,895 --> 00:54:49,695
Speaker 1: that women who wear a burker potentially could be concealing

1116
00:54:49,734 --> 00:54:53,975
Speaker 1: their identity and could be doing things nefariously. That's her stance.

1117
00:54:54,055 --> 00:54:56,375
Speaker 1: She wants to ban the burker in public spaces so

1118
00:54:56,495 --> 00:54:58,895
Speaker 1: that that can't be used as a way to disguise yourself.

1119
00:54:59,214 --> 00:55:02,455
Speaker 1: And I guess, at very very top level, okay, that

1120
00:55:02,535 --> 00:55:05,495
Speaker 1: makes sense, but if you dell even slightly below the surface,

1121
00:55:06,214 --> 00:55:10,975
Speaker 1: it is actually playing into Pauline Hanson's baseline supporter group,

1122
00:55:11,295 --> 00:55:17,214
Speaker 1: who are inherently against immigration, especially immigration from certain countries

1123
00:55:17,694 --> 00:55:21,335
Speaker 1: and whose maybe base population might be Muslim. So we

1124
00:55:21,455 --> 00:55:24,415
Speaker 1: know that there is definitely some racism behind that, and

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00:55:24,495 --> 00:55:26,294
Speaker 1: we know that she got a lot of shock value

1126
00:55:26,295 --> 00:55:28,335
Speaker 1: from it the first time around, and sure enough she

1127
00:55:28,335 --> 00:55:30,734
Speaker 1: made major headlines a second time she did it. But yes,

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00:55:30,775 --> 00:55:34,255
Speaker 1: we spoke to Senator Payment and she recalled the first

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00:55:34,295 --> 00:55:36,854
Speaker 1: time that Pauline did that and how she was going

1130
00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:39,575
Speaker 1: to visit her dad in hospital and she was called

1131
00:55:39,575 --> 00:55:41,774
Speaker 1: a telhead by somebody and told to go back to

1132
00:55:41,775 --> 00:55:44,334
Speaker 1: where she came from and was getting lots of dirty looks,

1133
00:55:44,375 --> 00:55:46,415
Speaker 1: and she didn't know what was going on until she

1134
00:55:46,415 --> 00:55:48,055
Speaker 1: saw the news that night and realized that that was

1135
00:55:48,055 --> 00:55:51,254
Speaker 1: why there are very real world consequences of stunts like

1136
00:55:51,295 --> 00:55:52,134
Speaker 1: that in Parliament.

1137
00:55:52,734 --> 00:55:57,015
Speaker 2: Speaking of Parliament and Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party, barnebie

1138
00:55:57,055 --> 00:56:00,495
Speaker 2: Joyce announced his departure from the Nationals. Now he'd sort

1139
00:56:00,495 --> 00:56:03,734
Speaker 2: of alluded to this before, and we weren't really sure

1140
00:56:03,734 --> 00:56:05,094
Speaker 2: where he was going to end up, if he was

1141
00:56:05,094 --> 00:56:07,294
Speaker 2: going to stay as an independent on the crossbench, or

1142
00:56:07,575 --> 00:56:10,254
Speaker 2: would he join another party in It turns out that

1143
00:56:10,295 --> 00:56:12,854
Speaker 2: he was in fact in talks with Pauline Hanson and

1144
00:56:13,535 --> 00:56:16,854
Speaker 2: has declared in December this year that yes he will

1145
00:56:16,895 --> 00:56:18,134
Speaker 2: be joining one Nation.

1146
00:56:18,295 --> 00:56:20,255
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Barnaby Joyce is my local member.

1147
00:56:20,654 --> 00:56:23,055
Speaker 2: Yep. Do you want to leave it at that?

1148
00:56:23,134 --> 00:56:23,334
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1149
00:56:23,415 --> 00:56:26,015
Speaker 2: Okay, great. They cooked a steak on a sandwich press.

1150
00:56:26,174 --> 00:56:26,894
Speaker 2: That's such a.

1151
00:56:26,815 --> 00:56:30,094
Speaker 1: Weird little fact that we found out about Pauline and

1152
00:56:30,094 --> 00:56:31,455
Speaker 1: Barnaby's meeting that they cooked a.

1153
00:56:31,455 --> 00:56:33,615
Speaker 2: Stage store meeting still a sandwich press.

1154
00:56:33,654 --> 00:56:34,895
Speaker 1: I don't know why we need to know that, but

1155
00:56:34,935 --> 00:56:36,774
Speaker 1: I'm glad we do whatever reason.

1156
00:56:36,575 --> 00:56:37,575
Speaker 2: All we need to say about it.

1157
00:56:37,614 --> 00:56:37,895
Speaker 1: Okay.

1158
00:56:37,975 --> 00:56:41,295
Speaker 2: Finally, to cap off November with some very good news,

1159
00:56:41,614 --> 00:56:45,774
Speaker 2: one mister Robert Urwen did win the Hearts, Minds and

1160
00:56:45,855 --> 00:56:48,334
Speaker 2: a big nice mirror Bold Trophy when he took out

1161
00:56:48,415 --> 00:56:50,015
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars US.

1162
00:56:50,055 --> 00:56:51,854
Speaker 1: I will admit I cried a couple of times during

1163
00:56:51,855 --> 00:56:53,334
Speaker 1: some of his performances this year.

1164
00:56:53,455 --> 00:56:56,374
Speaker 2: Can I say every time Dancing with the Stars US aired?

1165
00:56:56,415 --> 00:56:59,055
Speaker 2: It was during the work day here in Australia and

1166
00:56:59,134 --> 00:57:01,094
Speaker 2: so here in the office. This is something that I

1167
00:57:01,094 --> 00:57:03,335
Speaker 2: did participate in. I know, like you probably had this

1168
00:57:03,415 --> 00:57:07,415
Speaker 2: impression that I'm not into group activities, but I would

1169
00:57:07,415 --> 00:57:09,495
Speaker 2: gather and we would all watch his dancers because they

1170
00:57:09,495 --> 00:57:14,375
Speaker 2: were so lovely and like it just made us all happy.

1171
00:57:14,495 --> 00:57:16,815
Speaker 2: And I think that's obviously the point in what basically

1172
00:57:16,895 --> 00:57:19,775
Speaker 2: everything that Robert Irwin does. And it worked and he

1173
00:57:19,895 --> 00:57:20,735
Speaker 2: was rewarded for it.

1174
00:57:20,775 --> 00:57:23,455
Speaker 1: And he passed the bird test this year, which was

1175
00:57:23,495 --> 00:57:26,695
Speaker 1: so lovely. He's like the walking green flag. We appreciate you,

1176
00:57:26,775 --> 00:57:29,854
Speaker 1: Robert Irwin. You are rapping Australia like no other and

1177
00:57:30,095 --> 00:57:32,775
Speaker 1: your gorgeous and we wish you all the luck in

1178
00:57:32,815 --> 00:57:36,775
Speaker 1: the world and hopefully you take your shirt off again.

1179
00:57:36,855 --> 00:57:39,735
Speaker 1: Sometimes it wasn't gross so preepy at all. I'm so sorry.

1180
00:57:41,415 --> 00:57:43,455
Speaker 2: Well, you need to move on to December, okay, okay,

1181
00:57:43,495 --> 00:57:46,455
Speaker 2: I want to start December with some news that was

1182
00:57:46,735 --> 00:57:50,215
Speaker 2: not conflicting but just interesting. These stories all dropped within

1183
00:57:50,255 --> 00:57:51,455
Speaker 2: the space of toys.

1184
00:57:51,415 --> 00:57:53,695
Speaker 1: Polarity in a very similar issue.

1185
00:57:53,775 --> 00:57:56,575
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we've talked extensively about weight loss jabs here

1186
00:57:56,615 --> 00:57:59,894
Speaker 2: on the Quickie, mainly because you keep asking about them.

1187
00:57:59,895 --> 00:58:02,495
Speaker 2: There's lots of questions, lots of news side effects and

1188
00:58:02,575 --> 00:58:06,095
Speaker 2: things to consider and stories that come up around people

1189
00:58:06,735 --> 00:58:08,895
Speaker 2: using weight loss jobs, especially if it's.

1190
00:58:08,695 --> 00:58:10,455
Speaker 1: A lot of research going on and we don't know

1191
00:58:10,895 --> 00:58:12,655
Speaker 1: exactly what they might look like down the track, but

1192
00:58:12,655 --> 00:58:14,814
Speaker 1: we hear things like it has other knock on health

1193
00:58:14,855 --> 00:58:17,575
Speaker 1: benefits but also knock on side effects, and so we're

1194
00:58:17,615 --> 00:58:18,735
Speaker 1: constantly updating it.

1195
00:58:18,895 --> 00:58:21,775
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that brings us to the first week in December. Now,

1196
00:58:21,815 --> 00:58:25,495
Speaker 2: the TGA, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, are like the drug overlords.

1197
00:58:25,495 --> 00:58:27,575
Speaker 2: I've used that one a lot, but that's essentially what

1198
00:58:27,695 --> 00:58:30,495
Speaker 2: they are for Australia to keep us safe. They issued

1199
00:58:30,495 --> 00:58:34,055
Speaker 2: a couple of warnings in relation to weight loss injections here,

1200
00:58:34,855 --> 00:58:39,294
Speaker 2: firstly saying that there were potential links to suicidality, which

1201
00:58:39,335 --> 00:58:41,575
Speaker 2: is a very serious one. They issued some warnings and

1202
00:58:41,615 --> 00:58:45,735
Speaker 2: advice around that also for zeppatide users, specifically that it

1203
00:58:45,775 --> 00:58:49,815
Speaker 2: could interfere with any oral contraceptive medication that people were taking,

1204
00:58:50,095 --> 00:58:52,895
Speaker 2: mainly when you first start a dose or when you

1205
00:58:53,015 --> 00:58:56,015
Speaker 2: up your dosage. So there's more information about that online.

1206
00:58:56,175 --> 00:58:59,775
Speaker 2: At the same time, though, the WHO, the World Health Organization,

1207
00:59:00,335 --> 00:59:04,735
Speaker 2: gave a conditional green light to use weight loss injections

1208
00:59:04,735 --> 00:59:08,175
Speaker 2: and use that medicare to treat obesity directly, and that's

1209
00:59:08,215 --> 00:59:10,455
Speaker 2: the first time the WHO is actually weighed in on

1210
00:59:10,495 --> 00:59:11,335
Speaker 2: that particular.

1211
00:59:11,415 --> 00:59:14,935
Speaker 1: Because if we remember these drugs were created to help

1212
00:59:15,175 --> 00:59:17,775
Speaker 1: tackle type two diabetes, which is what they are mainly

1213
00:59:17,855 --> 00:59:20,415
Speaker 1: used for, but as we've realized, the side effect is

1214
00:59:20,935 --> 00:59:24,495
Speaker 1: weight loss. Now the WHO has really kind of recognized

1215
00:59:24,535 --> 00:59:27,175
Speaker 1: that as an official form of treatment for obesity, and

1216
00:59:27,215 --> 00:59:29,255
Speaker 1: we know OBC has been a big problem for the

1217
00:59:29,295 --> 00:59:31,775
Speaker 1: world in the past twenty thirty years, and.

1218
00:59:31,695 --> 00:59:34,375
Speaker 2: They'll keep updating that advice as we find out more research.

1219
00:59:34,455 --> 00:59:37,055
Speaker 1: Like you said, Claire, absolutely, Bruce Lehman was back in

1220
00:59:37,135 --> 00:59:40,854
Speaker 1: court now. There are several court cases still attached to

1221
00:59:41,375 --> 00:59:45,695
Speaker 1: the Bruce Lemon Britney Higgins situation in Parliament House. This

1222
00:59:45,815 --> 00:59:49,095
Speaker 1: particular courk case in December, Bruce Lehman, as you might remember,

1223
00:59:50,135 --> 00:59:53,975
Speaker 1: sued Channel ten and Lisa Wilkinson in particular, the journalist

1224
00:59:54,015 --> 00:59:56,215
Speaker 1: who did the interview with Brittney Higgins on the project,

1225
00:59:56,255 --> 00:59:59,855
Speaker 1: for defamation that backfired and in fact the judge said

1226
00:59:59,935 --> 01:00:02,655
Speaker 1: that on the balance of probability that Bruce Lehman did

1227
01:00:02,735 --> 01:00:05,455
Speaker 1: actually rate Brittney Higgins in Parliament House in twenty nineteen,

1228
01:00:06,135 --> 01:00:09,575
Speaker 1: and then he then appealed that decision, and we found

1229
01:00:09,575 --> 01:00:12,294
Speaker 1: out in December that he lost that appeal. So I

1230
01:00:12,335 --> 01:00:14,935
Speaker 1: believe that is one more step left to go, and

1231
01:00:14,935 --> 01:00:17,015
Speaker 1: that Bruce Leman may take that to the High Court

1232
01:00:17,335 --> 01:00:18,735
Speaker 1: and that it will be the end of that. But

1233
01:00:18,775 --> 01:00:21,535
Speaker 1: there are still other court cases going on, other defamation cases,

1234
01:00:21,535 --> 01:00:21,975
Speaker 1: et cetera.

1235
01:00:22,255 --> 01:00:24,294
Speaker 2: Yes, and we'll continue to update you, of course on

1236
01:00:24,375 --> 01:00:27,095
Speaker 2: this particular case and others as they come to light.

1237
01:00:27,735 --> 01:00:31,455
Speaker 2: Also in December, Spotify Wrapped came out. Everybody was sharing

1238
01:00:31,495 --> 01:00:34,615
Speaker 2: their top artists. Thank you again if you were a

1239
01:00:34,655 --> 01:00:36,255
Speaker 2: listener of the Quick and we made it into your

1240
01:00:36,255 --> 01:00:40,455
Speaker 2: top podcast, we very much appreciate that. But the Wiggles

1241
01:00:40,495 --> 01:00:44,335
Speaker 2: were the top Ossie artist for twenty twenty five. Claire,

1242
01:00:44,335 --> 01:00:45,294
Speaker 2: how do you feel about it?

1243
01:00:45,455 --> 01:00:47,975
Speaker 1: Just a juggernaut the Wiggles, aren't they like they just

1244
01:00:48,575 --> 01:00:52,215
Speaker 1: never wane, like they have been going strong for decades

1245
01:00:52,255 --> 01:00:54,615
Speaker 1: and decades. Are now generations of Ozzie kids who've been

1246
01:00:54,655 --> 01:00:57,294
Speaker 1: raised on the Wiggles and they do not show any

1247
01:00:57,295 --> 01:00:59,735
Speaker 1: signs of slowing down. They've moved with the times, they've grown,

1248
01:00:59,775 --> 01:01:03,575
Speaker 1: they've matured like It's just it makes me really proud totally.

1249
01:01:03,615 --> 01:01:05,814
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember watching the Wiggles at the Carron

1250
01:01:05,895 --> 01:01:08,695
Speaker 2: Up shopping center in Western Australia as a child, like

1251
01:01:08,775 --> 01:01:11,575
Speaker 2: they were playing shopping centers and now they play massive

1252
01:01:11,615 --> 01:01:13,735
Speaker 2: world tours in huge stadiums.

1253
01:01:13,815 --> 01:01:15,655
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember the first time they played a really

1254
01:01:15,695 --> 01:01:17,775
Speaker 1: big stadium tour in the US and I was like, Oh,

1255
01:01:17,895 --> 01:01:18,935
Speaker 1: that's all little wiggle.

1256
01:01:19,135 --> 01:01:20,015
Speaker 2: They're transcended.

1257
01:01:20,095 --> 01:01:23,935
Speaker 1: They're transcended the country. They're basically ac DC. Now they're amazing.

1258
01:01:24,215 --> 01:01:26,215
Speaker 1: How do I feel about Pantone's Color of the Year

1259
01:01:26,255 --> 01:01:27,615
Speaker 1: tailor Estrano.

1260
01:01:27,375 --> 01:01:31,095
Speaker 2: In general or specifically the color they floated.

1261
01:01:31,935 --> 01:01:34,655
Speaker 1: Let's go with specifically the color they chose for twenty

1262
01:01:34,695 --> 01:01:35,255
Speaker 1: twenty six.

1263
01:01:35,735 --> 01:01:38,855
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that depends do you consider white a

1264
01:01:38,975 --> 01:01:39,735
Speaker 2: color or.

1265
01:01:39,735 --> 01:01:42,855
Speaker 1: Some people say it's a shade and not a color,

1266
01:01:43,735 --> 01:01:46,175
Speaker 1: But politically it feels like it holds a lot more weight.

1267
01:01:46,655 --> 01:01:50,855
Speaker 2: Well yeah, this year, definitely, I feel like most things

1268
01:01:51,015 --> 01:01:52,135
Speaker 2: indifferent towards it.

1269
01:01:52,335 --> 01:01:55,255
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the outcry from people who saw this in

1270
01:01:55,335 --> 01:01:57,735
Speaker 1: Auson because the color itself is called cloud Dancer.

1271
01:01:57,895 --> 01:02:01,015
Speaker 2: I like the marketing around the campaign and it looks

1272
01:02:01,095 --> 01:02:02,695
Speaker 2: very soft, like I'd like to lay down.

1273
01:02:02,775 --> 01:02:05,255
Speaker 1: But the idea was that they wanted some kind of

1274
01:02:06,215 --> 01:02:10,015
Speaker 1: some kind of peace, But unfortunately what that also means,

1275
01:02:10,295 --> 01:02:12,535
Speaker 1: and the color white does bring it this with it,

1276
01:02:12,575 --> 01:02:16,095
Speaker 1: this sense of purity and whiteness, being cleaner and whiteness

1277
01:02:16,095 --> 01:02:19,615
Speaker 1: being somehow better, and so it kind of felt in

1278
01:02:19,655 --> 01:02:22,615
Speaker 1: the vein of like that Sydney Sweeney campaign going wrong

1279
01:02:22,655 --> 01:02:26,455
Speaker 1: with my jeans are Blue. It feels like there's undertones

1280
01:02:26,495 --> 01:02:29,575
Speaker 1: to it that being white is better, that being white

1281
01:02:29,655 --> 01:02:32,655
Speaker 1: is cleaner, that being white is somehow purer, and that

1282
01:02:32,815 --> 01:02:34,495
Speaker 1: has political and racist on it.

1283
01:02:34,575 --> 01:02:37,334
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pantone did not pick up on the undertone and

1284
01:02:37,415 --> 01:02:40,255
Speaker 2: that is something that they'll need to reconsider for twenty

1285
01:02:40,295 --> 01:02:43,175
Speaker 2: twenty seven's color of the year. Twenty twenty five's color

1286
01:02:43,215 --> 01:02:47,175
Speaker 2: of the Year was mock a moose. Does that translate feud?

1287
01:02:47,375 --> 01:02:48,815
Speaker 2: Was it a brown year for you, Claire?

1288
01:02:48,855 --> 01:02:51,575
Speaker 1: I did wear a brown shirt this year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if that's anything to go by, it's not really I'm

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Speaker 1: really not influenced by a Pantone's Color of the Year,

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Speaker 1: to be honest. And they did come out with a

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Speaker 1: video saying, oh, it was just meant to be a

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Speaker 1: talking point. I don't think this was the talking point

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Speaker 1: they were planning on. But maybe just read the room

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Speaker 1: a little bit next year.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, Okay, Finally to bring us to a close,

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Speaker 2: and of course there's still a couple of days left

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, but I think this is a

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Speaker 2: nice place to end and punctuate a bit of a

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Speaker 2: wrap for the quickie. The social media ban for under

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Speaker 2: sixteens in Australia, a world first, kicked in on December ten.

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Speaker 1: Hands up. If it's the first time you ever heard

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01:03:26,495 --> 01:03:31,175
Speaker 1: of platforms like Lemonade and YopE, I had never heard

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01:03:31,175 --> 01:03:32,735
Speaker 1: of any of them before, and that's where the kids

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01:03:32,815 --> 01:03:34,615
Speaker 1: ran to as soon as December ten kicked in.

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01:03:34,695 --> 01:03:36,895
Speaker 2: I mean, you famously have a child.

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Speaker 1: Do but she wasn't old enough to have her own

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01:03:39,295 --> 01:03:41,775
Speaker 1: social media yet. So she has a YouTube account, which

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01:03:41,815 --> 01:03:46,015
Speaker 1: has now gone, but she watches YouTube anyway. It just

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Speaker 1: means she doesn't get targeted by algorithms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a reminder. This was to ban under sixteens

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Speaker 2: from holding accounts, but apps like YouTube, which do not

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Speaker 2: require accounts, are still accessible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's interesting because not everyone got booted off.

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Speaker 1: My kid also did the age verification and it told

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Speaker 1: me she was thirteen, which is not. So there's some

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01:04:06,895 --> 01:04:09,215
Speaker 1: people who've been age verified much older than what they

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01:04:09,215 --> 01:04:10,854
Speaker 1: are and some who were younger. And so we knew

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Speaker 1: that there was going to be teething issues with the

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Speaker 1: tech and we'll see how this plays out as twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six unfolds. But whether it's going to have a

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Speaker 1: long term impact on the psyche of young assies, I

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01:04:21,335 --> 01:04:23,895
Speaker 1: hope it does because we've seen the damage in the

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Speaker 1: detriment that social media has had on kids and their

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Speaker 1: attention spans and the way they view themselves. And it's

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Speaker 1: also extended into bullying following kids home from school and

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Speaker 1: in their own bedrooms, and so I get it, I

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Speaker 1: understand it. I hope it works. It also gives me

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01:04:40,495 --> 01:04:42,015
Speaker 1: a bit of breathing room because I can just tell

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01:04:42,015 --> 01:04:44,495
Speaker 1: my kids she can't have any until she's sixteen, so like,

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01:04:44,655 --> 01:04:47,655
Speaker 1: yay for me. But I'm not sure how it's going

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Speaker 1: to look on the other side. I'm just I'm hopeful

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Speaker 1: that it allows kids a bit of room to breathe.

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Speaker 2: We've spoken to people from all different sides when in

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01:04:55,935 --> 01:04:58,535
Speaker 2: the lead up to the band kicking in, and one

1336
01:04:58,855 --> 01:05:01,495
Speaker 2: common denominator, regardless of if you were in favor of

1337
01:05:01,535 --> 01:05:04,535
Speaker 2: the ban or not, was it's the content and the

1338
01:05:04,735 --> 01:05:08,055
Speaker 2: algorithms of these websites that needs to be addressed, and

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01:05:08,055 --> 01:05:10,255
Speaker 2: that came from the teams who were taking this all

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01:05:10,255 --> 01:05:12,414
Speaker 2: the way to the High Court, and then also from

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01:05:12,415 --> 01:05:15,775
Speaker 2: the Communications Minister, Anika Wells herself. She said that a

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01:05:15,855 --> 01:05:18,695
Speaker 2: priority for the government and the Safety Commission in the

1343
01:05:18,735 --> 01:05:21,975
Speaker 2: new year is to really look at how content is

1344
01:05:22,055 --> 01:05:25,135
Speaker 2: put onto these sites and the algorithms that feed you

1345
01:05:25,775 --> 01:05:27,735
Speaker 2: the content and why they may or may not push

1346
01:05:27,815 --> 01:05:31,655
Speaker 2: harmful things to the forefront. So maybe that in itself

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01:05:31,695 --> 01:05:33,615
Speaker 2: will bring a bit of a different solution in the

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Speaker 2: new year.

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Speaker 1: Well, happy new year. May it be less screen time for.

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01:05:37,775 --> 01:05:40,695
Speaker 2: All of us, not just the kids, except for Katie

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01:05:40,695 --> 01:05:43,335
Speaker 2: Perry and Justin Trudeau, Like, send us more photos. I

1352
01:05:43,415 --> 01:05:45,335
Speaker 2: need to know, Like what do they talk about?

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01:05:45,455 --> 01:05:47,255
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to be a fly on the world,

1354
01:05:47,335 --> 01:05:49,934
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Thank you, Taylor Strano. It's always fun

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01:05:49,975 --> 01:05:51,335
Speaker 1: to look back at the year that was.

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Speaker 2: And thank you very much. Claire Murphy. Thanks to you

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Speaker 2: for listening as well. And as a reminder, this episode

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01:05:57,095 --> 01:06:00,095
Speaker 2: was produced by us and of course audio production by

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Speaker 2: the wonderful Lou Hill. Hey Taylor here, just jumping in

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01:06:06,295 --> 01:06:09,655
Speaker 2: very quickly. Claire and I recorded this episode the twenty

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01:06:09,695 --> 01:06:14,015
Speaker 2: twenty five quickie wrapped a couple of weeks before the

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Speaker 2: end of the year, and we did say if there

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01:06:16,375 --> 01:06:19,415
Speaker 2: was more news, we would jump back on to update you,

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01:06:19,695 --> 01:06:25,015
Speaker 2: and unfortunately there has been more news. On the Sunday,

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Speaker 2: December the fourteenth, a targeted terrorist attack did take place,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately on our beloved beautiful Bondai Beach. Two gunman open

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01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:39,055
Speaker 2: fired at a Jewish gathering to celebrate the first night

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Speaker 2: of Hanuka and Claire. It's not exactly the news we

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01:06:44,095 --> 01:06:46,335
Speaker 2: wanted to jump back in and update people on before

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Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really shocked the entire country. It sent shockwaves

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Speaker 1: around the world, especially the iconic location where this occurred.

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01:06:56,095 --> 01:07:00,135
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who were wondering if

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Speaker 1: something like this could potentially happen here, just with the

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Speaker 1: rise of anti Semitic attacks around and Sydney and Melbourne

1376
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Speaker 1: in recent years, in particular after the fallout from what's

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Speaker 1: been happening in Gaza. And to say that it has

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Speaker 1: impacted us down to our soul level, I think is

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Speaker 1: an understatement. And we've seen some incredible acts of heroism.

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Speaker 1: We've seen men and women step in wrestle guns off

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Speaker 1: of gunmen, be killed for their efforts. We've seen people

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Speaker 1: throw themselves over the tops of small children who were

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01:07:33,775 --> 01:07:36,455
Speaker 1: lost in crowds to protect them from hales of bullets.

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Speaker 1: We've seen life savers run barefoot into the fray. We've

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Speaker 1: seen police officers run at the gunmen's some of them

1386
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Speaker 1: ended up in hospital themselves. And in the aftermath, we

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Speaker 1: saw silence on Bonde Beach for a summer morning, which

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Speaker 1: is something we never ever see, and then life slowly

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Speaker 1: figure out how to return. And the small acts of

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Speaker 1: kindness that we witnessed in the aftermath of that have

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Speaker 1: truly made aid all of us remember and realize what

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Speaker 1: to our core it means to be Australian. Seeing people

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Speaker 1: hand out free coffees to people who were there to

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Speaker 1: just take a moment and reflect on what had happened.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the families of victims stand up and publicly

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Speaker 1: talk about their lost loved ones. We've seen fund raises

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Speaker 1: raise millions of dollars for Ahmed al Ahmed, who wrestled

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Speaker 1: the gun off of one of the shooters. We've saw

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Speaker 1: someone just go to the beach and pick up everyone's

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Speaker 1: belongings that were discarded in the panic and neatly line

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01:08:37,735 --> 01:08:40,894
Speaker 1: them up, prepared for their owners to return if they returned.

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Speaker 1: And so the darkness hit Bondai on Sunday, September fourteen.

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01:08:46,295 --> 01:08:48,974
Speaker 1: But the light continues to shine and show us what

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Speaker 1: it truly means to be great Australians.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, echoing Claire, there the stories that we think you

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Speaker 2: should focus on, the things that we think you should

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01:08:58,095 --> 01:09:00,295
Speaker 2: spend your time and energy on if you're going to

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Speaker 2: do so when it comes to Bondai, is to remember

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01:09:03,655 --> 01:09:06,415
Speaker 2: the people who lost their lives. Remember that this was

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Speaker 2: a family and a community event. People were coming out

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Speaker 2: here under the guise of being safe to celebrate their faith,

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Speaker 2: to celebrate the first night of the Festival of Light

1413
01:09:15,615 --> 01:09:19,014
Speaker 2: for Haneker. So if you do want to continue to

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Speaker 2: wait into this story, be gentle, go slow, make sure

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01:09:22,615 --> 01:09:26,255
Speaker 2: you lean on each other, and I would employ you

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Speaker 2: to focus on remembering the victims, the memories, their stories.

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Speaker 2: They are whole people and will continue to be so,

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Speaker 2: the acts of bravery, kindness and heroism. And to remember

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Speaker 2: that you don't actually need to read everything that comes online.

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Speaker 2: I know that's really difficult. There's thousands upon thousands of

1421
01:09:44,735 --> 01:09:49,134
Speaker 2: reposts for images and videos and quotes and comments and

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01:09:49,415 --> 01:09:52,455
Speaker 2: criticism and critique, and you don't need to wait into

1423
01:09:52,495 --> 01:09:55,735
Speaker 2: them if you're not ready to if ever, but just

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01:09:55,775 --> 01:09:59,934
Speaker 2: remember to hug your loved ones, get a good night's sleep,

1425
01:10:00,934 --> 01:10:06,014
Speaker 2: and eventually, hopefully you and us will all be able

1426
01:10:06,055 --> 01:10:08,054
Speaker 2: to return to Bondai Beach and remember it for what

1427
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Speaker 2: it is, not what it became.

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Speaker 1: On December fourteenth, Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of

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Speaker 1: land and waters that this podcast is recorded on