1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on. 5 00:00:25,224 --> 00:00:25,944 Speaker 3: From Mamma Mia. 6 00:00:26,104 --> 00:00:29,024 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. 7 00:00:29,264 --> 00:00:31,504 Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodneck. 8 00:00:31,704 --> 00:00:35,344 Speaker 4: We have the biggest episode. I'm gonna say, biggest of 9 00:00:35,464 --> 00:00:37,144 Speaker 4: the year of my life. 10 00:00:37,344 --> 00:00:37,984 Speaker 3: I would say. 11 00:00:38,664 --> 00:00:43,624 Speaker 4: We have two very special interviews that Laura Brodneck conducted 12 00:00:43,824 --> 00:00:46,584 Speaker 4: with some of the cast from the new movie Wicked 13 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:49,264 Speaker 4: Part one, Yes, part one, and we're also going to 14 00:00:49,344 --> 00:00:51,624 Speaker 4: give you a little bit of a behind the scenes 15 00:00:51,824 --> 00:00:54,904 Speaker 4: analogy of like watching the movie as well as like 16 00:00:54,944 --> 00:00:57,264 Speaker 4: what happened with your interviews, because I feel like a 17 00:00:57,264 --> 00:00:58,264 Speaker 4: lot happened. 18 00:00:57,904 --> 00:00:59,064 Speaker 3: Oh so much happened. 19 00:00:59,064 --> 00:01:01,624 Speaker 1: It always does when I interact with famous people and 20 00:01:01,864 --> 00:01:04,144 Speaker 1: when I put up a few photos, both when we 21 00:01:04,144 --> 00:01:06,384 Speaker 1: put some photos up from the premiere the other day 22 00:01:06,664 --> 00:01:09,544 Speaker 1: and also from the Wicked junket. I've never had so 23 00:01:09,584 --> 00:01:11,904 Speaker 1: many messages from people saying what were they like, how 24 00:01:11,904 --> 00:01:14,264 Speaker 1: did this happen? What happened here? So I don't know 25 00:01:14,304 --> 00:01:16,064 Speaker 1: how much of this I'm allowed to tell you, guys 26 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,144 Speaker 1: about what happened behind the scenes of the junket. But 27 00:01:18,144 --> 00:01:20,624 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you everything and just everyone be cool, 28 00:01:20,704 --> 00:01:21,504 Speaker 1: keep it between us. 29 00:01:21,624 --> 00:01:23,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's blab Okay, what happens on. 30 00:01:23,864 --> 00:01:27,264 Speaker 1: The spill stays on the spill. So, as we recapped 31 00:01:27,264 --> 00:01:29,464 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, Emily and I went to the 32 00:01:29,544 --> 00:01:32,024 Speaker 1: world premiere of Wicked. 33 00:01:32,424 --> 00:01:35,584 Speaker 4: Okay, you need to say why the world premiere happened 34 00:01:35,624 --> 00:01:37,584 Speaker 4: here in sunny little Sydney. 35 00:01:37,384 --> 00:01:40,504 Speaker 1: Because it happened had to happen in the Land of Oz. 36 00:01:40,584 --> 00:01:43,024 Speaker 4: That's my favorite fact ever. I've been like telling my 37 00:01:43,704 --> 00:01:45,024 Speaker 4: That was the first thing I told my parents when 38 00:01:45,024 --> 00:01:46,584 Speaker 4: they found out I was going. I was like, it's 39 00:01:46,624 --> 00:01:48,184 Speaker 4: because it's in the Land of Oz and they're like, 40 00:01:48,224 --> 00:01:49,144 Speaker 4: that's so beautiful. 41 00:01:49,664 --> 00:01:51,504 Speaker 1: So I think I also need to start by telling 42 00:01:51,544 --> 00:01:54,144 Speaker 1: people just exactly what Wicked is, because it has come 43 00:01:54,184 --> 00:01:56,264 Speaker 1: to my attention and I wasn't aware of this. There 44 00:01:56,264 --> 00:01:58,544 Speaker 1: are some people out in the world who aren't aware 45 00:01:58,624 --> 00:02:03,384 Speaker 1: of exactly what Wicked is, but give names. Not people 46 00:02:03,384 --> 00:02:05,744 Speaker 1: who listen to this pod, of course, because they're cultured 47 00:02:06,024 --> 00:02:10,344 Speaker 1: so Wicked the musical massive Broadway smash Hit came out 48 00:02:10,504 --> 00:02:14,784 Speaker 1: over twenty years ago and people have been calling, screaming, 49 00:02:14,904 --> 00:02:18,144 Speaker 1: begging for a movie ever since the stage show became. 50 00:02:18,504 --> 00:02:21,144 Speaker 1: You know, such a huge hit, has played in multiple countries, 51 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:23,944 Speaker 1: has played for years. If you're like me, you listen 52 00:02:24,064 --> 00:02:26,744 Speaker 1: to the Wicked soundtrack all the time. Actually, this is 53 00:02:26,864 --> 00:02:29,544 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I got so emotional and as 54 00:02:29,584 --> 00:02:32,184 Speaker 1: we recapt in our other episode, why I was sobbing 55 00:02:32,224 --> 00:02:35,024 Speaker 1: in the theater to the extent that I was shaking 56 00:02:35,064 --> 00:02:37,264 Speaker 1: our joint chair that we were sitting on, Because I 57 00:02:37,264 --> 00:02:39,824 Speaker 1: think for so many people wickeds more than a musical. 58 00:02:39,944 --> 00:02:41,664 Speaker 3: It's such like a comfort thing. 59 00:02:42,144 --> 00:02:44,824 Speaker 1: And for me when it first came out in Australia, 60 00:02:44,984 --> 00:02:47,704 Speaker 1: I had just moved to my like first job, like 61 00:02:47,744 --> 00:02:50,184 Speaker 1: I had no friends, and I had to drive three 62 00:02:50,264 --> 00:02:53,384 Speaker 1: hours nearly to catch to our flight to see my family, 63 00:02:53,824 --> 00:02:55,824 Speaker 1: and I hated that drive so much, like I've never 64 00:02:55,864 --> 00:02:58,504 Speaker 1: been so lonely, and I would just listen to Wicked 65 00:02:59,024 --> 00:03:00,784 Speaker 1: for hours and hours on end, and I would have 66 00:03:00,784 --> 00:03:02,424 Speaker 1: it playing in my ears. I would listen to it 67 00:03:02,424 --> 00:03:03,944 Speaker 1: at night when I couldn't sleep, and it was like 68 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:06,624 Speaker 1: my comfort. This is why I was getting really emotional 69 00:03:06,744 --> 00:03:10,064 Speaker 1: yesterday talking to them and I. When Wicked first came 70 00:03:10,064 --> 00:03:12,904 Speaker 1: to I spent my first paycheck and I was getting 71 00:03:12,904 --> 00:03:14,224 Speaker 1: pay I think it was gonna pay like thirty grand 72 00:03:14,264 --> 00:03:16,904 Speaker 1: a year. I was so poor, my first little journal 73 00:03:16,984 --> 00:03:18,824 Speaker 1: job in this little country town, and I spent my 74 00:03:18,984 --> 00:03:23,384 Speaker 1: entire pay on flights and accommodation to go to Melbourne 75 00:03:23,424 --> 00:03:25,824 Speaker 1: for one night with my sisters to see Wicked. And 76 00:03:25,864 --> 00:03:27,504 Speaker 1: I had no money to live for the rest of 77 00:03:27,544 --> 00:03:29,984 Speaker 1: the time, so I had to steal like two pieces 78 00:03:29,984 --> 00:03:31,344 Speaker 1: of bread every time I left. 79 00:03:31,184 --> 00:03:33,224 Speaker 3: The office and go home and toast them. And that's 80 00:03:33,264 --> 00:03:35,264 Speaker 3: all I had for like weeks. But it was so 81 00:03:35,824 --> 00:03:36,304 Speaker 3: worth it. 82 00:03:36,544 --> 00:03:40,264 Speaker 4: So I watched Wicked the musical once and I was 83 00:03:40,304 --> 00:03:41,384 Speaker 4: like obsessed with it. 84 00:03:41,424 --> 00:03:42,144 Speaker 3: I was quite young. 85 00:03:42,584 --> 00:03:44,944 Speaker 4: But my favorite movie of all time, one of my 86 00:03:44,984 --> 00:03:47,424 Speaker 4: favorite movies of all time is Wizard of Us, which 87 00:03:47,464 --> 00:03:49,744 Speaker 4: is a movie that was introduced to me by my 88 00:03:49,904 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 4: Nata and we watched it together and like, I just 89 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:56,384 Speaker 4: remember the magical like seeing like it going from black 90 00:03:56,384 --> 00:03:59,704 Speaker 4: and white to colorful, and like the songs, it's just 91 00:03:59,704 --> 00:04:02,704 Speaker 4: like so beautiful, such a beautiful film. So if you 92 00:04:02,744 --> 00:04:05,664 Speaker 4: didn't know the storyline of Wicked, but you know Wizard 93 00:04:05,664 --> 00:04:07,424 Speaker 4: of Oz, because I feel like it's a massive film 94 00:04:07,424 --> 00:04:10,784 Speaker 4: that everyone's aware of it's kind of Wizard of Oz, 95 00:04:10,944 --> 00:04:13,704 Speaker 4: but like from the Wicked Witch of the West perspective, 96 00:04:13,824 --> 00:04:17,504 Speaker 4: like what quote a prequel really happened a prequel. Towards 97 00:04:17,544 --> 00:04:19,824 Speaker 4: the end it goes into like you see like what 98 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:21,984 Speaker 4: happens in the Wizdom of Oz from like a different 99 00:04:22,024 --> 00:04:25,184 Speaker 4: type of lens, And it's so cleverly done because it 100 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:27,784 Speaker 4: doesn't pull away from the original movie at all, Like 101 00:04:27,904 --> 00:04:30,504 Speaker 4: it keeps the same sequence, it keeps the same storyline. 102 00:04:30,624 --> 00:04:31,944 Speaker 3: You just see everything from. 103 00:04:31,864 --> 00:04:34,504 Speaker 4: Another person's perspective and like everything that happens on the 104 00:04:34,584 --> 00:04:39,944 Speaker 4: background so well done. The musical was absolutely amazing, and 105 00:04:40,024 --> 00:04:42,624 Speaker 4: I think the reason why it was also so successful 106 00:04:42,784 --> 00:04:45,664 Speaker 4: was the generation, like my parents' generation, who grew up 107 00:04:45,704 --> 00:04:48,584 Speaker 4: with Wizard of Oz, Like it didn't take away from 108 00:04:48,584 --> 00:04:51,824 Speaker 4: that story, so they still really appreciated and really loved 109 00:04:51,824 --> 00:04:54,024 Speaker 4: it because it just felt like a whole new thing, 110 00:04:54,104 --> 00:04:57,344 Speaker 4: like bringing it up again. And yeah, watching this movie 111 00:04:58,304 --> 00:05:00,144 Speaker 4: was I was crying, and I was like, I didn't 112 00:05:00,144 --> 00:05:01,904 Speaker 4: think i'd cry because I've only seen the musical once, 113 00:05:01,904 --> 00:05:04,784 Speaker 4: so I'm not that massive of a fan. But it 114 00:05:04,824 --> 00:05:08,544 Speaker 4: was just so so well done, especially like we always 115 00:05:08,544 --> 00:05:11,544 Speaker 4: talk about the power of like female friendships in film 116 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:14,344 Speaker 4: and cinema, and that was the first time I saw 117 00:05:14,424 --> 00:05:17,984 Speaker 4: female friendship portrayed in a way that was so vulnerable 118 00:05:18,144 --> 00:05:20,864 Speaker 4: and so well done that it like outlasted any other 119 00:05:20,944 --> 00:05:24,744 Speaker 4: type of chemistry of relationship I've seen exactly. 120 00:05:24,784 --> 00:05:26,544 Speaker 3: Oh go, okay, I'm gonna try and get that right. 121 00:05:27,344 --> 00:05:30,304 Speaker 1: So in Wicked, it's part one because you know it's 122 00:05:30,344 --> 00:05:32,744 Speaker 1: a long stage show, so it cuts in the movie 123 00:05:33,064 --> 00:05:36,384 Speaker 1: where it cuts for intermission. So define gravity so you 124 00:05:36,384 --> 00:05:38,984 Speaker 1: can worry. You get defined and gravity one hundred percent. 125 00:05:39,424 --> 00:05:42,984 Speaker 1: So in this new movie, you have Cynthia Arrivo, just 126 00:05:43,064 --> 00:05:47,184 Speaker 1: an incredible musical theater performer, an incredible actress. I won't 127 00:05:47,184 --> 00:05:49,424 Speaker 1: go through all her awards and roles because we'll be 128 00:05:49,544 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 1: here for six hours. Plays Alphaba, who goes on to 129 00:05:52,784 --> 00:05:55,744 Speaker 1: be you know, the Wicked Witch. And then Ariana Grande 130 00:05:55,984 --> 00:05:58,864 Speaker 1: plays Glinda, who goes on to be Glinda the Good Witch. 131 00:05:59,184 --> 00:06:02,464 Speaker 1: And it tells the story before Dorothy dropped in of 132 00:06:02,504 --> 00:06:05,824 Speaker 1: these two women who meet it she's at a university, 133 00:06:06,264 --> 00:06:09,664 Speaker 1: complete opposites, and how they come together to be friends 134 00:06:09,664 --> 00:06:13,024 Speaker 1: and then embark this huge Like the book Wicked, which 135 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:14,944 Speaker 1: I also love, I've read All the Books is a 136 00:06:14,984 --> 00:06:18,064 Speaker 1: really compelling tale of like a really good look into 137 00:06:18,144 --> 00:06:21,064 Speaker 1: like society and the political landscape in a way that 138 00:06:21,584 --> 00:06:24,024 Speaker 1: feels so relevant today, even though it was written many 139 00:06:24,064 --> 00:06:27,944 Speaker 1: years ago about a fictional place, and so you know, 140 00:06:27,984 --> 00:06:29,504 Speaker 1: it kind of goes on. You have you know, you 141 00:06:29,504 --> 00:06:30,944 Speaker 1: have the Wizard of Oz, you have all these other 142 00:06:30,984 --> 00:06:34,944 Speaker 1: things and other characters. The movie also stars Jonathan Bailey 143 00:06:35,024 --> 00:06:39,384 Speaker 1: as Fierro, the most charismatic man that has Well, the 144 00:06:39,424 --> 00:06:41,424 Speaker 1: thing is that's brilliant casting, because he is the most 145 00:06:41,504 --> 00:06:45,144 Speaker 1: charismatic man I've ever come across, playing the most charismatic. 146 00:06:44,584 --> 00:06:47,784 Speaker 4: Interact, playing his pristian character and everything, and I'm all 147 00:06:47,824 --> 00:06:48,264 Speaker 4: for it. 148 00:06:48,464 --> 00:06:49,264 Speaker 3: He's so good. 149 00:06:49,304 --> 00:06:52,784 Speaker 1: And Jeff Goldboom playing the Wizard of Oz, who was 150 00:06:52,864 --> 00:06:55,104 Speaker 1: singing and dancing, so they were sitting above us. But 151 00:06:55,144 --> 00:06:56,744 Speaker 1: if you're in the premiere, but if you looked up, 152 00:06:56,864 --> 00:06:59,824 Speaker 1: Jeff the whole time was just singing away and just 153 00:06:59,864 --> 00:07:01,784 Speaker 1: having the time of his life as the Wizard. So 154 00:07:01,824 --> 00:07:04,704 Speaker 1: he's living his best life. So yesterday, the day after 155 00:07:04,744 --> 00:07:07,744 Speaker 1: the premiere, I went to a little Sidney hotel where 156 00:07:07,744 --> 00:07:10,224 Speaker 1: the cast was staying, where the junket was taking place, 157 00:07:10,584 --> 00:07:12,504 Speaker 1: and I sat down with some of the cast members. 158 00:07:12,544 --> 00:07:14,504 Speaker 3: So we're going to play those interviews. 159 00:07:13,984 --> 00:07:16,384 Speaker 1: Now and I'm going to give you a little behind 160 00:07:16,384 --> 00:07:18,784 Speaker 1: the scenes of what happened when the cameras weren't ruling. 161 00:07:20,664 --> 00:07:23,144 Speaker 1: So the first cast members I sat down with were 162 00:07:23,304 --> 00:07:27,104 Speaker 1: Marissa Bodi, who plays Nessa Rose, who is Alphabez's sister 163 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:30,624 Speaker 1: in the show and has I think a more extended 164 00:07:30,664 --> 00:07:32,944 Speaker 1: part in this in the movie than she does in 165 00:07:32,944 --> 00:07:35,664 Speaker 1: the stage show, which was really exciting. And Ethan Slater, 166 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:37,904 Speaker 1: who was a Broadway star who was playing Bolk. He's 167 00:07:37,904 --> 00:07:42,424 Speaker 1: a munchkin desperately in love with Glinda and then you know, 168 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:45,664 Speaker 1: his story really takes a turn before we see him 169 00:07:45,704 --> 00:07:47,344 Speaker 1: pop up again in The Wizard of All Is it a. 170 00:07:47,344 --> 00:07:48,184 Speaker 3: Very central role? 171 00:07:48,584 --> 00:07:51,504 Speaker 1: So here is Marissa Body and Ethan Slater. Is that 172 00:07:51,584 --> 00:07:54,544 Speaker 1: an added layer of pressure knowing that there's sort of 173 00:07:54,544 --> 00:07:56,744 Speaker 1: almost a fan ownership over these characters. 174 00:07:57,664 --> 00:07:58,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 175 00:07:58,264 --> 00:08:01,704 Speaker 5: There was a really sweet sign yesterday in the group 176 00:08:01,744 --> 00:08:03,664 Speaker 5: of fans that were outside the premiere, which is, by 177 00:08:03,664 --> 00:08:05,224 Speaker 5: the way, it was the most amazing thing in the world. 178 00:08:05,424 --> 00:08:07,544 Speaker 5: There's a wonderful sign that said thank you for taking 179 00:08:07,584 --> 00:08:11,784 Speaker 5: care of them, and that was like, really, really emotional 180 00:08:11,824 --> 00:08:13,624 Speaker 5: because I think that that was really important to us, 181 00:08:13,704 --> 00:08:15,784 Speaker 5: is to take care of these characters, and so that 182 00:08:15,824 --> 00:08:17,744 Speaker 5: it is added pressure, but also it's pressure that we're 183 00:08:17,744 --> 00:08:20,024 Speaker 5: putting on ourselves because we cared about it. And so 184 00:08:20,104 --> 00:08:23,544 Speaker 5: I think that it makes me feel really relieved to 185 00:08:23,624 --> 00:08:26,624 Speaker 5: know that at least most people see that we really 186 00:08:26,824 --> 00:08:28,184 Speaker 5: did our best to take care of them. 187 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:30,344 Speaker 3: Oh, you really did it, did live up to expectations. 188 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:31,824 Speaker 3: I should lead with that after sort. 189 00:08:31,624 --> 00:08:35,504 Speaker 1: Of heidening how much how excited we were, and I'm 190 00:08:35,544 --> 00:08:37,384 Speaker 1: just sort of going back to the beginning of the process. 191 00:08:37,424 --> 00:08:39,784 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you both about the audition process 192 00:08:39,824 --> 00:08:41,224 Speaker 1: because I hear that was a very. 193 00:08:41,384 --> 00:08:43,184 Speaker 3: Intense time to go through. 194 00:08:43,224 --> 00:08:45,064 Speaker 1: And what was it like when you finally both found 195 00:08:45,104 --> 00:08:46,264 Speaker 1: out that you had the roles. 196 00:08:47,104 --> 00:08:49,144 Speaker 6: So the role for Essa because they wanted to cast 197 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:52,184 Speaker 6: somebody who was authentically disabled in in a wheelchair, so 198 00:08:52,224 --> 00:08:55,584 Speaker 6: they did a nationwide casting. I sent him a self tape. 199 00:08:55,624 --> 00:08:58,944 Speaker 6: I got a call back later that day, and then 200 00:08:59,024 --> 00:09:02,344 Speaker 6: over the span of a few weeks, I had done 201 00:09:02,504 --> 00:09:06,144 Speaker 6: callbacks and work sessions with casting, and then after not 202 00:09:06,464 --> 00:09:13,424 Speaker 6: hearing back for a few days, I freak out for sure, because. 203 00:09:13,224 --> 00:09:14,784 Speaker 3: I was like this is away, man, I want, I 204 00:09:14,904 --> 00:09:15,384 Speaker 3: need this. 205 00:09:15,584 --> 00:09:16,024 Speaker 7: I put my. 206 00:09:16,024 --> 00:09:18,464 Speaker 6: Whole heart into this, and so I made a little 207 00:09:18,464 --> 00:09:22,464 Speaker 6: short film that was like spooky and about witches and 208 00:09:22,584 --> 00:09:24,784 Speaker 6: turning bad luck into good luck. And at the end 209 00:09:25,184 --> 00:09:27,064 Speaker 6: the spell that I create is good news will soon 210 00:09:27,144 --> 00:09:28,704 Speaker 6: come knocking, and then you hear a knock at the 211 00:09:28,704 --> 00:09:31,064 Speaker 6: door and then it cuts to black. And then two 212 00:09:31,184 --> 00:09:34,024 Speaker 6: days after I posted that to my Instagram, I heard 213 00:09:34,064 --> 00:09:37,424 Speaker 6: back from casting, So who knows, maybe. 214 00:09:37,184 --> 00:09:42,664 Speaker 3: I did create a spell by accident from apparently apparently. 215 00:09:42,184 --> 00:09:46,224 Speaker 6: Yeah and yeah, And the callback ended up being John 216 00:09:46,384 --> 00:09:50,344 Speaker 6: telling me that I got the role via having Cynthia 217 00:09:50,384 --> 00:09:53,544 Speaker 6: and Ari knock at the door and open it and 218 00:09:53,584 --> 00:09:55,984 Speaker 6: have a sign that said welcome to oswie Varanessa. 219 00:09:56,464 --> 00:09:57,864 Speaker 3: How do you even do? We youse speech? Just how 220 00:09:57,864 --> 00:10:00,784 Speaker 3: do you even respond to something like I was absolutely speechless. 221 00:10:00,984 --> 00:10:04,784 Speaker 6: I was not processing at all. I'm pretty sure I 222 00:10:04,864 --> 00:10:09,344 Speaker 6: look like a deer in headlights and whatever recorded video 223 00:10:09,504 --> 00:10:12,624 Speaker 6: zoom video out there of me on the reveal. 224 00:10:12,744 --> 00:10:13,144 Speaker 7: For sure. 225 00:10:13,344 --> 00:10:15,144 Speaker 5: It was crazy that on the other side of that 226 00:10:15,544 --> 00:10:17,904 Speaker 5: I was I was in London, we had just started rehearsals, 227 00:10:17,944 --> 00:10:20,624 Speaker 5: and John was like, by the way, I think I 228 00:10:20,664 --> 00:10:22,384 Speaker 5: can't tell you. Yeah, I think we found the Nanessa. 229 00:10:22,464 --> 00:10:24,664 Speaker 5: She's amazing, and she's like, I think she's a little witchy. 230 00:10:24,704 --> 00:10:28,144 Speaker 5: Because you just posted this, I knew and everyone was 231 00:10:28,184 --> 00:10:31,264 Speaker 5: just so excited. Yeah, because you're perfect, Because you're perfect 232 00:10:31,304 --> 00:10:31,904 Speaker 5: and amazing. 233 00:10:31,944 --> 00:10:34,824 Speaker 1: Oh and what about when you heard the news of 234 00:10:34,904 --> 00:10:36,944 Speaker 1: that you'd landed the role. It was I experience like fee. 235 00:10:37,144 --> 00:10:39,184 Speaker 7: I couldn't I couldn't believe that. I was like over 236 00:10:39,224 --> 00:10:39,584 Speaker 7: the moon. 237 00:10:39,824 --> 00:10:41,864 Speaker 5: But I feel like my story isn't quite as exciting 238 00:10:41,864 --> 00:10:44,264 Speaker 5: in some ways. But one thing that I did find 239 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:46,144 Speaker 5: a little I felt like a big swing. 240 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:47,744 Speaker 7: Is that I really cared about this. I wanted to 241 00:10:47,744 --> 00:10:49,464 Speaker 7: put my all into the self tape. 242 00:10:49,584 --> 00:10:50,984 Speaker 5: But you know, when I got the audition, I was like, 243 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:53,424 Speaker 5: you know, everybody in the country, everybody in the world 244 00:10:53,504 --> 00:10:55,264 Speaker 5: who's like, you know, my height or so I was 245 00:10:55,304 --> 00:10:57,144 Speaker 5: going to audition for Bach, so I don't know if 246 00:10:57,184 --> 00:10:58,144 Speaker 5: it's going to go anywhere. 247 00:10:58,544 --> 00:10:59,904 Speaker 7: And I didn't have anyone to read with me. 248 00:11:00,144 --> 00:11:02,664 Speaker 5: So what I did was I recorded myself saying all 249 00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:05,184 Speaker 5: of Glinda's lines, and I recorded myself singing all of 250 00:11:05,264 --> 00:11:08,584 Speaker 5: Nanessa's lines. Oh wow, And then I read with myself 251 00:11:08,704 --> 00:11:10,184 Speaker 5: and so the self tape that I sent in was 252 00:11:10,224 --> 00:11:11,824 Speaker 5: just just three of me. 253 00:11:12,344 --> 00:11:16,224 Speaker 7: Which, as I'm saying it out loud, it's been cute. Centered. Yeah, 254 00:11:16,344 --> 00:11:17,384 Speaker 7: been to the power of three. 255 00:11:18,464 --> 00:11:20,304 Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, that's the most embarrassing thing you've 256 00:11:20,344 --> 00:11:22,344 Speaker 5: ever done in your life and it's never gonna work. 257 00:11:22,504 --> 00:11:24,384 Speaker 3: And it's worked out very well, thank God. 258 00:11:25,144 --> 00:11:27,264 Speaker 1: And coming back to Murssa, what you said around the 259 00:11:27,304 --> 00:11:30,184 Speaker 1: importance of having someone in a wheelchair play this part 260 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:32,624 Speaker 1: for the first time, which, considering it's been going for 261 00:11:32,664 --> 00:11:35,704 Speaker 1: twenty years, is quite astounding. But what is that like 262 00:11:35,704 --> 00:11:38,384 Speaker 1: for you now knowing that audiences are about to see 263 00:11:38,384 --> 00:11:40,224 Speaker 1: this movie and what that's going to mean to so 264 00:11:40,264 --> 00:11:40,824 Speaker 1: many people. 265 00:11:41,304 --> 00:11:44,584 Speaker 6: It feels incredibly full circle to me. So when I 266 00:11:44,744 --> 00:11:49,184 Speaker 6: first saw Wicked on the stage age I think eleven 267 00:11:49,664 --> 00:11:52,144 Speaker 6: or twelve, and just seeing a character in a wheelchair 268 00:11:52,224 --> 00:11:57,424 Speaker 6: which I had never seen on stage before, and then 269 00:11:57,584 --> 00:12:02,624 Speaker 6: now to be the first disabled person that is authentically 270 00:12:02,664 --> 00:12:06,344 Speaker 6: in a wheelchair, I know what that meant to me 271 00:12:06,624 --> 00:12:08,744 Speaker 6: when I was younger, to just see a character like 272 00:12:08,784 --> 00:12:11,344 Speaker 6: that and then to actually be that for so many 273 00:12:11,424 --> 00:12:15,744 Speaker 6: other people while being the first authentically disabled person for 274 00:12:15,784 --> 00:12:16,784 Speaker 6: that role, It just. 275 00:12:17,344 --> 00:12:18,224 Speaker 3: It means the world to me. 276 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:21,384 Speaker 6: But it means a lot more for what I know 277 00:12:21,624 --> 00:12:24,504 Speaker 6: is is going to do for the community as a whole. 278 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:29,584 Speaker 4: Oh my god, they are so cute together. They're so 279 00:12:29,744 --> 00:12:33,464 Speaker 4: cute together, Like obviously Ethan Sider's romantically involved with Ariana Grande, 280 00:12:33,944 --> 00:12:38,384 Speaker 4: but I love that we got to hear them be 281 00:12:38,704 --> 00:12:41,784 Speaker 4: really sweet together outside of the movie, because their chemistry 282 00:12:41,824 --> 00:12:43,704 Speaker 4: in the movie is beautiful as well. 283 00:12:43,824 --> 00:12:45,744 Speaker 1: There's so many little hidden things there if you're a 284 00:12:45,744 --> 00:12:47,824 Speaker 1: wicked fan, like when he looks at her and says 285 00:12:47,824 --> 00:12:49,944 Speaker 1: you're perfect, because there's a. 286 00:12:49,944 --> 00:12:51,384 Speaker 8: Part I know. 287 00:12:51,624 --> 00:12:54,504 Speaker 3: I know obviously if you know, if you know the movie, 288 00:12:54,504 --> 00:12:55,824 Speaker 3: you know where this love story is going. 289 00:12:55,864 --> 00:12:57,784 Speaker 1: And it's maybe not the most romantic thing, but there 290 00:12:57,904 --> 00:13:01,424 Speaker 1: is a moment where they're kind of, you know, singing 291 00:13:01,464 --> 00:13:04,504 Speaker 1: to each other and you know, have this kind of 292 00:13:04,504 --> 00:13:06,984 Speaker 1: thing about talking about how they're perfect. And then obviously 293 00:13:07,104 --> 00:13:09,424 Speaker 1: Fierro and gluine isssing that line later on, but I 294 00:13:09,464 --> 00:13:11,664 Speaker 1: thought that was really Obviously that's hard for me to 295 00:13:11,704 --> 00:13:14,344 Speaker 1: listen back because you know, it's it's at a very 296 00:13:14,384 --> 00:13:16,624 Speaker 1: heightened situation. I just want to sort of set the 297 00:13:16,624 --> 00:13:18,464 Speaker 1: scene a little bit because I feel like, if you 298 00:13:18,504 --> 00:13:20,104 Speaker 1: don't know what at how a junket rolls. 299 00:13:20,584 --> 00:13:21,864 Speaker 3: The it's so extreme. 300 00:13:21,904 --> 00:13:24,344 Speaker 1: It's like a city kind of sets itself up in 301 00:13:24,384 --> 00:13:27,304 Speaker 1: a hotel somewhere in Sydney for these junkets. And you 302 00:13:27,344 --> 00:13:30,184 Speaker 1: go early, you check in, you go into a holding area, 303 00:13:30,224 --> 00:13:32,824 Speaker 1: you're there for a long time. You're then escorted up 304 00:13:32,824 --> 00:13:35,264 Speaker 1: to the next level where you go into anohing holding area, 305 00:13:35,344 --> 00:13:37,584 Speaker 1: and you're waiting there for a long time, and then 306 00:13:37,624 --> 00:13:40,064 Speaker 1: inevitably things are run lay because that's what happens. Then 307 00:13:40,104 --> 00:13:43,304 Speaker 1: you got taken to another smaller holding area and. 308 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:44,624 Speaker 3: Every hour, so I was. 309 00:13:44,704 --> 00:13:46,824 Speaker 1: I left this office yesterday at two o'clock and I 310 00:13:46,864 --> 00:13:49,544 Speaker 1: got home at seven pm, and I was a shell 311 00:13:49,584 --> 00:13:52,664 Speaker 1: of a human being. And then you go into this 312 00:13:52,744 --> 00:13:55,024 Speaker 1: other area outside the rooms where all the interviews are 313 00:13:55,024 --> 00:13:57,064 Speaker 1: taking place, and then they keep moving you from a 314 00:13:57,064 --> 00:13:59,344 Speaker 1: different chair to a different chair every few minutes to 315 00:13:59,384 --> 00:14:02,304 Speaker 1: show where you are in the line. And everyone's like, 316 00:14:02,384 --> 00:14:04,664 Speaker 1: you can't speak because you otherwise your voice will pick 317 00:14:04,744 --> 00:14:06,744 Speaker 1: up from the mic, and you don't have anything. You 318 00:14:06,824 --> 00:14:08,504 Speaker 1: have to leave your bags and everything another room, so 319 00:14:08,544 --> 00:14:11,184 Speaker 1: you're just sitting there with your own thoughts for like 320 00:14:11,264 --> 00:14:13,784 Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours waiting, and then you walk 321 00:14:13,824 --> 00:14:15,464 Speaker 1: into this room and they kind of rush you in 322 00:14:15,544 --> 00:14:17,824 Speaker 1: and the other journalists is just set up from their chair, 323 00:14:18,344 --> 00:14:20,744 Speaker 1: and you like kind of rush into the room which 324 00:14:20,784 --> 00:14:23,504 Speaker 1: is set up with like mics and stands and everything, 325 00:14:23,504 --> 00:14:25,544 Speaker 1: so you're weaving around those, and of course I'm taller 326 00:14:25,584 --> 00:14:27,264 Speaker 1: than everyone else in the world, so I always either 327 00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:29,664 Speaker 1: hit my hell on the mic or they have to 328 00:14:29,664 --> 00:14:31,664 Speaker 1: come and move it for me. And then you have 329 00:14:31,744 --> 00:14:34,264 Speaker 1: this moment of like the cameras are rolling and they're 330 00:14:34,304 --> 00:14:36,024 Speaker 1: yelling at you, I'm going to give you a rap 331 00:14:36,104 --> 00:14:37,384 Speaker 1: at one, man, I'm going to give you a wrap 332 00:14:37,384 --> 00:14:39,024 Speaker 1: at two, And you have like five minutes in the 333 00:14:39,104 --> 00:14:40,704 Speaker 1: room and your time starts and when you sit on 334 00:14:40,784 --> 00:14:43,224 Speaker 1: the chair, whether like everyone's ready or not, so you 335 00:14:43,224 --> 00:14:44,264 Speaker 1: have to really rush people. 336 00:14:44,304 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 3: Do you see how my voice is getting really dense? 337 00:14:46,144 --> 00:14:46,744 Speaker 3: And then you've got to. 338 00:14:46,704 --> 00:14:49,184 Speaker 1: Try and have this like really emotional interview with these 339 00:14:49,224 --> 00:14:50,104 Speaker 1: people in a few minutes. 340 00:14:50,184 --> 00:14:52,064 Speaker 3: You have to pretend to not be super breathy and 341 00:14:52,144 --> 00:14:52,944 Speaker 3: they which I was. 342 00:14:53,184 --> 00:14:55,864 Speaker 1: And then they have done like fifteen of these before. 343 00:14:55,904 --> 00:14:58,704 Speaker 1: You are actually probably way more than that thirty. Sometimes 344 00:14:58,744 --> 00:15:00,264 Speaker 1: I've asked you, like, how many interviews have you done? 345 00:15:00,264 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 1: They have like fifty people before you and you're trying 346 00:15:02,984 --> 00:15:04,264 Speaker 1: to get a moment with them. 347 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:06,424 Speaker 3: And they're also trying to give you something new as well. 348 00:15:06,504 --> 00:15:08,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they're good at their job, they do not 349 00:15:08,544 --> 00:15:09,184 Speaker 1: everyone does that. 350 00:15:09,224 --> 00:15:09,864 Speaker 3: These two were. 351 00:15:10,464 --> 00:15:12,464 Speaker 1: I also say, like, obviously I had I fallen with 352 00:15:12,584 --> 00:15:15,144 Speaker 1: Marissa online and I kind of like knew who she was, 353 00:15:15,184 --> 00:15:17,544 Speaker 1: but I'm obsessed with her now from her performance in 354 00:15:17,544 --> 00:15:19,744 Speaker 1: the movie and how she spoke and everything. I'm just 355 00:15:19,784 --> 00:15:22,184 Speaker 1: so excited to see her and other things. Can I 356 00:15:22,224 --> 00:15:23,424 Speaker 1: say on the Ethans later thing? 357 00:15:23,544 --> 00:15:26,944 Speaker 3: So yeah, continue. 358 00:15:27,024 --> 00:15:30,584 Speaker 1: When this first came out that Ethan Slater and Ariana 359 00:15:30,664 --> 00:15:34,384 Speaker 1: Grande had they had both their marriages had ended and 360 00:15:34,744 --> 00:15:37,944 Speaker 1: they were dating, and there was a lot of, like 361 00:15:37,984 --> 00:15:40,424 Speaker 1: I guess, public backlash that people. I mean, first of all, 362 00:15:40,424 --> 00:15:42,184 Speaker 1: people were upset about the whole marriage thing, and to 363 00:15:42,224 --> 00:15:43,704 Speaker 1: that I said, I know, we talked about the time, 364 00:15:43,704 --> 00:15:45,304 Speaker 1: But to that, I say, like, we don't know what 365 00:15:45,384 --> 00:15:47,944 Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes, and we'll actually never know, so 366 00:15:47,984 --> 00:15:48,784 Speaker 1: we can't really. 367 00:15:48,624 --> 00:15:49,184 Speaker 3: Speak on that. 368 00:15:49,544 --> 00:15:51,144 Speaker 1: But there was also a lot of backlash that she 369 00:15:51,224 --> 00:15:53,464 Speaker 1: was this beautiful movie star and he was this quirky 370 00:15:53,864 --> 00:15:56,944 Speaker 1: musical theater guy who had played SpongeBob SquarePants on Broadway 371 00:15:57,544 --> 00:15:59,584 Speaker 1: and everyone was like, there was kind of this thing, 372 00:15:59,704 --> 00:16:01,824 Speaker 1: like he was like not attractive enough to be with 373 00:16:01,904 --> 00:16:04,184 Speaker 1: her or what was she doing throwing her life away 374 00:16:04,224 --> 00:16:04,784 Speaker 1: for this man? 375 00:16:04,904 --> 00:16:06,544 Speaker 3: And there was so much backlash. 376 00:16:06,664 --> 00:16:10,064 Speaker 1: And can I say, after walking into that room yesterday 377 00:16:10,464 --> 00:16:12,824 Speaker 1: and sitting across from that man, I get it. 378 00:16:13,504 --> 00:16:14,904 Speaker 3: He was lovely. 379 00:16:15,024 --> 00:16:18,024 Speaker 1: He was so yes And I don't say that, as 380 00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:19,784 Speaker 1: you guys know, I always tell you about my bad interviews, 381 00:16:19,784 --> 00:16:22,904 Speaker 1: so I don't say that lightly. But I just found 382 00:16:22,984 --> 00:16:26,784 Speaker 1: him when I walked in, like so charming and so charismatic. 383 00:16:26,864 --> 00:16:28,624 Speaker 1: And when you throw on the fact he can sing, 384 00:16:28,784 --> 00:16:31,904 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, I get it. I understand 385 00:16:31,904 --> 00:16:34,224 Speaker 1: now too why they were like walking because they didn't 386 00:16:34,504 --> 00:16:36,864 Speaker 1: hold hands. Obviously, she walked down the red carp at 387 00:16:36,864 --> 00:16:39,104 Speaker 1: the Sydney Premier holding hands with Cynthia because it was 388 00:16:39,104 --> 00:16:41,824 Speaker 1: like their group moment, and then he and Marissa were 389 00:16:41,824 --> 00:16:44,264 Speaker 1: more walking together because their characters are together in the film. 390 00:16:44,464 --> 00:16:47,064 Speaker 1: But once they got into the theater kind of where 391 00:16:47,064 --> 00:16:49,704 Speaker 1: we were sitting away from the main characters, Ethan and 392 00:16:49,744 --> 00:16:52,944 Speaker 1: Ariana walked in together, were holding hands, were being very 393 00:16:52,944 --> 00:16:54,984 Speaker 1: cuply in the theater, and they also do you notice 394 00:16:54,984 --> 00:16:56,504 Speaker 1: that they when they came on stage together and then 395 00:16:56,504 --> 00:16:59,344 Speaker 1: they ran off. They grabbed hands as they ran off, 396 00:16:59,384 --> 00:17:00,424 Speaker 1: which is really sweet. 397 00:17:00,544 --> 00:17:04,384 Speaker 3: And now I'm like, guys, I get it. I'm Slater train. 398 00:17:04,704 --> 00:17:08,024 Speaker 4: I understood why watching the movie, because you can see 399 00:17:08,064 --> 00:17:10,944 Speaker 4: the chemistry between their characters as well meant to be there, 400 00:17:10,944 --> 00:17:12,464 Speaker 4: which is not meant to be there, but you see it. 401 00:17:12,504 --> 00:17:14,864 Speaker 1: Oh see, I didn't pick up anything about in the movie. No, No, 402 00:17:14,904 --> 00:17:16,744 Speaker 1: I think, well, it depends if you were looking for it, 403 00:17:16,784 --> 00:17:18,304 Speaker 1: because I think you're not meant to have there's not 404 00:17:18,424 --> 00:17:20,304 Speaker 1: he's he is in love with her in the movie, 405 00:17:20,304 --> 00:17:21,984 Speaker 1: but she does not like him back. 406 00:17:22,104 --> 00:17:24,584 Speaker 3: I think you can see a little hint hints. Okay, 407 00:17:24,704 --> 00:17:27,664 Speaker 3: I think you're looking for that. But yeah, okay, I understand. 408 00:17:27,704 --> 00:17:30,704 Speaker 4: What I found really interesting is that Marissa said right 409 00:17:30,744 --> 00:17:33,544 Speaker 4: in the beginning of your interview, hopefully fans will loved 410 00:17:33,544 --> 00:17:36,144 Speaker 4: the movie as much as like the musical. Yeah, what 411 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,064 Speaker 4: do you love more the musical of the movie. 412 00:17:38,264 --> 00:17:43,624 Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't ask me that. Come on, I mean, 413 00:17:44,464 --> 00:17:48,944 Speaker 1: obviously I love the musical better, but I love I 414 00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,824 Speaker 1: think this is a perfect extension of it. And I've 415 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:53,904 Speaker 1: got to say I wasn't there's a few things I 416 00:17:53,984 --> 00:17:56,224 Speaker 1: wasn't on board with when it was announced, and a 417 00:17:56,264 --> 00:17:58,264 Speaker 1: few things, and I'm just gonna be honest that I 418 00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:01,464 Speaker 1: didn't like Ariana Grande's casting. When I first found out 419 00:18:01,584 --> 00:18:03,984 Speaker 1: that she was going to be in the movie, I 420 00:18:03,984 --> 00:18:05,544 Speaker 1: didn't tell her that yesterday didn't come on. 421 00:18:06,504 --> 00:18:07,184 Speaker 3: But she's aware. 422 00:18:07,224 --> 00:18:11,184 Speaker 1: She's aware that people were hesitant at her casting, and 423 00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:11,864 Speaker 1: I understand it. 424 00:18:11,864 --> 00:18:14,704 Speaker 4: Because she wasn't known for being in like Broadway and 425 00:18:14,704 --> 00:18:16,864 Speaker 4: in musical. She was known for being on Nickelodeon and 426 00:18:16,944 --> 00:18:19,424 Speaker 4: Victoria and then having a pop star kind of. 427 00:18:19,424 --> 00:18:22,824 Speaker 1: Fame absolutely, and the pop starification of a musical, I 428 00:18:22,824 --> 00:18:25,384 Speaker 1: think is what I was really worried about. Cynthia is 429 00:18:25,424 --> 00:18:27,624 Speaker 1: a Broadway star as well as being an actress, and 430 00:18:27,664 --> 00:18:29,224 Speaker 1: so I just when I heard that she was going 431 00:18:29,304 --> 00:18:32,784 Speaker 1: to be Alphaba, I was absolutely thrilled at that casting, 432 00:18:32,864 --> 00:18:35,024 Speaker 1: and Ariana I was very hesitant about. 433 00:18:35,264 --> 00:18:36,624 Speaker 3: But I started to get. 434 00:18:36,424 --> 00:18:38,624 Speaker 1: More on board the idea once I heard that she 435 00:18:38,704 --> 00:18:43,384 Speaker 1: had gone through such an intense, rigorous audition process, which 436 00:18:43,424 --> 00:18:45,384 Speaker 1: I did ask her about as well, because I'd heard 437 00:18:45,424 --> 00:18:47,664 Speaker 1: a few different rumors and a few like people on 438 00:18:47,904 --> 00:18:49,624 Speaker 1: the record say that you know, they had made her 439 00:18:49,624 --> 00:18:51,544 Speaker 1: take all of her makeup off and she'd come back 440 00:18:51,584 --> 00:18:53,904 Speaker 1: and looked a different way, and she had, and she 441 00:18:53,984 --> 00:18:55,984 Speaker 1: has spoken, and she told me in our interview about 442 00:18:56,024 --> 00:18:58,304 Speaker 1: how she works so hard to change her voice because 443 00:18:58,344 --> 00:19:00,744 Speaker 1: that's not the way she normally sings. She taught herself 444 00:19:00,744 --> 00:19:04,264 Speaker 1: to sing differently. I also think with Glinda, it's a 445 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:06,824 Speaker 1: role that can sometimes look a bit throwaway, like oh, 446 00:19:06,864 --> 00:19:08,344 Speaker 1: it's just the ditzy blonde, and I was like, no, 447 00:19:08,424 --> 00:19:12,384 Speaker 1: she's She's layered. Also, her level of comedy can be 448 00:19:12,544 --> 00:19:15,064 Speaker 1: very hit and miss. I've seen Wicked so many times now, 449 00:19:15,264 --> 00:19:17,424 Speaker 1: and I've seen good Glindas and great Glindas and some 450 00:19:17,504 --> 00:19:20,664 Speaker 1: Glindas that maybe didn't nail it as well. And I 451 00:19:20,704 --> 00:19:23,624 Speaker 1: think it's such specific comedic timing in tone that if 452 00:19:23,664 --> 00:19:26,424 Speaker 1: you get it wrong, it falls flat. And so coming 453 00:19:26,464 --> 00:19:28,984 Speaker 1: into the movie, I was, I don't know, I was 454 00:19:29,064 --> 00:19:31,784 Speaker 1: on the fence about it, but I do honestly think 455 00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:33,864 Speaker 1: her voice. And I'm not just saying this because I 456 00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:35,744 Speaker 1: interviewed her, because I've interviewed lots of people that I 457 00:19:35,824 --> 00:19:37,584 Speaker 1: thought their performance wasn't great, but like it was a 458 00:19:37,584 --> 00:19:40,904 Speaker 1: good interview, but I think that she really nailed it, 459 00:19:41,304 --> 00:19:44,184 Speaker 1: and I think it's because they made her work so 460 00:19:44,424 --> 00:19:46,664 Speaker 1: hard for it that when she got it, she'd earned it. 461 00:19:46,744 --> 00:19:50,224 Speaker 3: Her voice was like outstanding. If you I did think. 462 00:19:50,104 --> 00:19:52,464 Speaker 4: I stand that register she normally sings in you listen 463 00:19:52,584 --> 00:19:55,624 Speaker 4: to the songs like she's singing in there, you wouldn't 464 00:19:55,664 --> 00:19:57,664 Speaker 4: even think it's her, Like she had to has such 465 00:19:57,704 --> 00:19:58,864 Speaker 4: a Broadway voice. 466 00:19:58,624 --> 00:20:02,504 Speaker 1: And they're singing live on the two, which is incredible. Okay, 467 00:20:02,544 --> 00:20:04,104 Speaker 1: So then I finished that interview and I was feeling 468 00:20:04,104 --> 00:20:05,944 Speaker 1: pretty good about myself, and then I had to go 469 00:20:05,984 --> 00:20:07,864 Speaker 1: and wait again for a very long period of time. 470 00:20:07,904 --> 00:20:10,064 Speaker 1: At this stage, I'm just dying for a hair brush 471 00:20:10,144 --> 00:20:12,424 Speaker 1: or stick or something to like fix myself up because 472 00:20:12,464 --> 00:20:16,384 Speaker 1: I'm it was very hot yesterday was very airless in 473 00:20:16,384 --> 00:20:18,384 Speaker 1: the room I was waiting in. And then as I 474 00:20:18,504 --> 00:20:22,024 Speaker 1: was sitting outside the room thinking about like what this 475 00:20:22,144 --> 00:20:23,344 Speaker 1: movie meant to me, and the fact that I was 476 00:20:23,344 --> 00:20:25,944 Speaker 1: about to go in an interview Arianne and Cynthia, I. 477 00:20:25,944 --> 00:20:27,144 Speaker 3: Freaking tear it up again. 478 00:20:27,784 --> 00:20:29,544 Speaker 1: I did again, and I think I almost went into 479 00:20:29,584 --> 00:20:32,064 Speaker 1: the interview like maybe a little bit robotic when I 480 00:20:32,104 --> 00:20:33,584 Speaker 1: look back on it now, because I was. 481 00:20:33,584 --> 00:20:35,584 Speaker 3: So worried about crying. 482 00:20:36,104 --> 00:20:39,944 Speaker 1: You're so yeah, I was overwhelmed, and I think sometimes 483 00:20:40,184 --> 00:20:42,864 Speaker 1: I know other interviewers went in there and cried with them, 484 00:20:43,104 --> 00:20:44,824 Speaker 1: and I don't know if that would have happened, if 485 00:20:44,824 --> 00:20:46,344 Speaker 1: that had been good or bad, if I'd done it, 486 00:20:46,384 --> 00:20:48,304 Speaker 1: but I think I almost went the other way where 487 00:20:48,944 --> 00:20:52,544 Speaker 1: I almost am like too formal and robotic because I 488 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:55,304 Speaker 1: was just trying really not to cry. And the interview 489 00:20:55,344 --> 00:20:57,184 Speaker 1: started on kind of an interesting notes. So I walked 490 00:20:57,224 --> 00:20:59,424 Speaker 1: in and they're sitting up and I hate this and 491 00:20:59,504 --> 00:21:01,504 Speaker 1: junkets and I understand why they do it, because. 492 00:21:01,344 --> 00:21:03,464 Speaker 3: They want the Opera House in the background. 493 00:21:03,504 --> 00:21:05,744 Speaker 1: That's why they're here to show that they're in Australia 494 00:21:05,784 --> 00:21:07,424 Speaker 1: so people don't think it's like the moon landing and 495 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:10,824 Speaker 1: there's no allegations the same rejunket. 496 00:21:10,864 --> 00:21:13,144 Speaker 4: I've said, I've seen Zendea, I've seen za Efron in 497 00:21:13,184 --> 00:21:15,984 Speaker 4: that same of you. You've seen more celebrities, and it's 498 00:21:15,984 --> 00:21:17,384 Speaker 4: seen the Opera House exactly. 499 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:19,904 Speaker 1: So I walked into the room and they let the 500 00:21:19,944 --> 00:21:22,024 Speaker 1: talent know who's coming in, so they said it's Laura 501 00:21:22,024 --> 00:21:25,144 Speaker 1: from MAM and Mia and then Cynthia goes, oh mom 502 00:21:25,144 --> 00:21:28,824 Speaker 1: and Mia great, and then I'm kind of like, Okay, 503 00:21:28,984 --> 00:21:31,664 Speaker 1: does she know the website or does she think it's 504 00:21:31,664 --> 00:21:32,624 Speaker 1: the musical. 505 00:21:32,504 --> 00:21:36,464 Speaker 3: Which it's either time. It's hard working. Everyone thinks we're 506 00:21:36,464 --> 00:21:37,544 Speaker 3: working for a musical. 507 00:21:37,904 --> 00:21:40,024 Speaker 1: I walked up onto the platform and I sit down. 508 00:21:40,104 --> 00:21:43,184 Speaker 1: I'm so overwhelmed. And then Arianna leans over to me 509 00:21:43,464 --> 00:21:48,144 Speaker 1: and goes, hi, I'm Ariana and leaned out her hand 510 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:51,704 Speaker 1: to shake my hands so earnestly, and I'm like, I 511 00:21:51,704 --> 00:21:55,264 Speaker 1: couldn't think what today is, so I said, I know, oh, 512 00:21:55,344 --> 00:21:56,264 Speaker 1: I'm nice to meet you. 513 00:21:56,344 --> 00:21:56,904 Speaker 3: I'm Laura. 514 00:21:57,264 --> 00:21:58,664 Speaker 1: And then I'm nice. 515 00:21:58,424 --> 00:22:02,024 Speaker 3: To meet you, Laura. It's so nice. She was being 516 00:22:02,064 --> 00:22:02,584 Speaker 3: so polite. 517 00:22:02,624 --> 00:22:03,904 Speaker 1: It means to like mimic her voice here, but she 518 00:22:03,904 --> 00:22:06,224 Speaker 1: has such a distinct voice, and it's it's so pretty. 519 00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:07,864 Speaker 3: It sounds like she has a distinct voice. 520 00:22:07,984 --> 00:22:11,664 Speaker 1: Now she's she's cult to a beautiful voice. It sounds 521 00:22:11,704 --> 00:22:14,344 Speaker 1: like she's singing when she's speaking, which as someone with 522 00:22:14,384 --> 00:22:17,464 Speaker 1: a terrible voice, I can only dream to sound like that. 523 00:22:17,744 --> 00:22:20,624 Speaker 1: And then I leaned over to shake Cynthia Rivo's hand 524 00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:23,024 Speaker 1: and my hand is shaking because I love her so much, 525 00:22:23,544 --> 00:22:25,264 Speaker 1: and she shook my hand and she still had those 526 00:22:25,304 --> 00:22:27,584 Speaker 1: beautiful in the premiere, sheh those beautiful. 527 00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:29,064 Speaker 3: Long long green even in. 528 00:22:29,104 --> 00:22:32,504 Speaker 1: The Yeah, exactly, so incredible, and I'm shaking her hand 529 00:22:32,984 --> 00:22:35,264 Speaker 1: and then she goes, oh, and she looked at me, 530 00:22:35,304 --> 00:22:37,504 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a split second in the 531 00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,784 Speaker 1: in the maybe i'll put the video up. I don't know, Yeah, 532 00:22:39,784 --> 00:22:41,744 Speaker 1: I'll do it. This is such a split second, but 533 00:22:41,784 --> 00:22:43,264 Speaker 1: it felt forever. And she looked at me and she 534 00:22:43,304 --> 00:22:45,664 Speaker 1: goes oh. And I was like, oh my god, I'm like, 535 00:22:46,224 --> 00:22:47,384 Speaker 1: what is wrong with my face? 536 00:22:47,424 --> 00:22:50,064 Speaker 3: Like, what's happened? Am I crying? Make that noise? Yeah? 537 00:22:50,104 --> 00:22:52,744 Speaker 1: And then she goes and she did that the universal 538 00:22:52,744 --> 00:22:54,304 Speaker 1: sign that women did to each other where they have 539 00:22:54,384 --> 00:22:56,944 Speaker 1: something on your teeth, crunch up way worse where you 540 00:22:56,984 --> 00:22:59,584 Speaker 1: scrunch up your face. And then she starts rubbing her finger, 541 00:22:59,664 --> 00:23:01,984 Speaker 1: looking at me back and forth over her face, and 542 00:23:02,024 --> 00:23:04,704 Speaker 1: she's and she's telling me that all that time, I've 543 00:23:04,704 --> 00:23:07,144 Speaker 1: been sitting out there, and I've did check my face 544 00:23:07,184 --> 00:23:09,264 Speaker 1: fifty times before I when and I talked to twenty people. 545 00:23:09,344 --> 00:23:12,624 Speaker 1: Somehow in the three steps that I have taken to 546 00:23:12,624 --> 00:23:14,504 Speaker 1: get from the people I just spoke to up on 547 00:23:14,584 --> 00:23:17,544 Speaker 1: stage with them, I have lipstick all over my teeth 548 00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:18,824 Speaker 1: and she. 549 00:23:18,704 --> 00:23:21,584 Speaker 4: Lipstick, however, is better than having like spinach or something, 550 00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:23,224 Speaker 4: because then you have to pick that out and then 551 00:23:23,224 --> 00:23:24,264 Speaker 4: you're like, wait, do I. 552 00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:26,024 Speaker 3: Well then I wut in my mouth? Or do I 553 00:23:26,144 --> 00:23:27,984 Speaker 3: drop it on the ground? My god, I don't want that. 554 00:23:28,264 --> 00:23:29,504 Speaker 3: Do I hand it to the camera? 555 00:23:29,584 --> 00:23:33,104 Speaker 4: Man, I would have just thrown myself off this day, 556 00:23:33,184 --> 00:23:34,704 Speaker 4: so I might think of the like that was the 557 00:23:34,704 --> 00:23:35,904 Speaker 4: best scenario that could have happened. 558 00:23:36,144 --> 00:23:37,584 Speaker 1: And then I said, oh, oh, thank you. 559 00:23:37,624 --> 00:23:38,384 Speaker 3: And then I'm cleaning. 560 00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:40,664 Speaker 1: I'm trying to clean my teeth in front of Ariana 561 00:23:40,664 --> 00:23:43,784 Speaker 1: and Cynthia, who both smiling at me really encouragingly. 562 00:23:43,384 --> 00:23:44,864 Speaker 3: Like well, wait, don't institute. 563 00:23:45,104 --> 00:23:46,704 Speaker 1: And then I was like yeah, and I'm like okay, 564 00:23:47,064 --> 00:23:48,904 Speaker 1: oh sorry that I'm like, oh, that would have ruined 565 00:23:48,904 --> 00:23:50,384 Speaker 1: my day. And what I meant to say is it 566 00:23:50,384 --> 00:23:52,264 Speaker 1: would have ruined my life if I looked back over 567 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,344 Speaker 1: my Wicked interview and its lipstick go over my teeth 568 00:23:54,584 --> 00:23:58,224 Speaker 1: and look, they'll be commentary afterwards. But here is Cynthia 569 00:23:58,384 --> 00:24:00,144 Speaker 1: Arrivo and Ariana Grande. 570 00:24:00,304 --> 00:24:06,344 Speaker 3: Hi, you do this, oh thank you saying musical great? Okay. 571 00:24:06,824 --> 00:24:07,904 Speaker 3: That would have my day. 572 00:24:10,544 --> 00:24:12,384 Speaker 1: To start by asking you both what it was like 573 00:24:12,464 --> 00:24:15,224 Speaker 1: to experience a movie with an audience last night, because 574 00:24:15,224 --> 00:24:17,264 Speaker 1: I saw you walking down the yellow brick carpets so 575 00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:19,624 Speaker 1: excited I saw you on stage. Did you have a 576 00:24:19,664 --> 00:24:22,664 Speaker 1: moment backstage to kind of take it in and celebrate 577 00:24:22,704 --> 00:24:23,504 Speaker 1: that moment together? 578 00:24:24,024 --> 00:24:27,384 Speaker 8: I think a little bit, but I think it when 579 00:24:27,384 --> 00:24:29,584 Speaker 8: we were sitting watching. I think we really took it 580 00:24:29,624 --> 00:24:32,424 Speaker 8: in at that point right together. 581 00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:36,024 Speaker 1: And that was that because the gowns were too we 582 00:24:36,144 --> 00:24:36,824 Speaker 1: just needed to be to. 583 00:24:38,584 --> 00:24:42,584 Speaker 3: Oh I had a we were like, we need I 584 00:24:42,664 --> 00:24:44,184 Speaker 3: understand that would have not done at all. 585 00:24:45,304 --> 00:24:47,304 Speaker 1: So going back to the beginning of the process, I 586 00:24:47,384 --> 00:24:50,504 Speaker 1: understand that the audition process was very extensive, and I 587 00:24:50,504 --> 00:24:52,864 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you both what your memories are of 588 00:24:52,944 --> 00:24:55,384 Speaker 1: that time and was there ever a moment where you thought, oh, 589 00:24:55,424 --> 00:24:57,304 Speaker 1: I want this part so much, but it might not 590 00:24:57,344 --> 00:24:57,784 Speaker 1: work out. 591 00:24:58,224 --> 00:25:00,104 Speaker 8: I just assumed it wasn't going to come my way 592 00:25:00,144 --> 00:25:01,504 Speaker 8: for a while, so I just didn't want to know 593 00:25:01,544 --> 00:25:05,024 Speaker 8: anything about it until I had the opportunity to come 594 00:25:05,024 --> 00:25:09,944 Speaker 8: in and I was lucky, and because this lady here 595 00:25:09,984 --> 00:25:12,704 Speaker 8: was working very, very hard as well, I was brought 596 00:25:12,744 --> 00:25:15,584 Speaker 8: in to do a camera test and I was in 597 00:25:15,624 --> 00:25:19,504 Speaker 8: the room for about three four hours learning everything, and 598 00:25:20,384 --> 00:25:23,304 Speaker 8: I remember being in that room, wanting to give everything 599 00:25:23,344 --> 00:25:25,504 Speaker 8: I possibly could. The morning of, I think it was 600 00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:27,904 Speaker 8: running back and forth doing lap, singing the songs just 601 00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:30,784 Speaker 8: so the words in my body. I just wanted to 602 00:25:30,784 --> 00:25:33,304 Speaker 8: put everything I could into this moment, to make sure 603 00:25:33,344 --> 00:25:36,504 Speaker 8: that I had left everything on the table, so that 604 00:25:36,784 --> 00:25:39,184 Speaker 8: if it didn't happen, I knew that I had given 605 00:25:39,224 --> 00:25:39,664 Speaker 8: it everything. 606 00:25:40,704 --> 00:25:47,504 Speaker 9: I feel like my audition process was a long cookie 607 00:25:47,944 --> 00:25:51,704 Speaker 9: any now, but you know, I mean we both love 608 00:25:51,744 --> 00:25:54,064 Speaker 9: and care about this so much and wanted to give 609 00:25:54,064 --> 00:25:56,824 Speaker 9: it everything we had. I remember before even my first audition, 610 00:25:57,344 --> 00:25:59,584 Speaker 9: I had an audition and then some callbacks and then 611 00:25:59,864 --> 00:26:03,224 Speaker 9: chemistry tests, and even before my first audition, I was 612 00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:07,384 Speaker 9: training my voice and with an acting coach for two months, 613 00:26:07,424 --> 00:26:09,784 Speaker 9: I think, just every day to make sure that I 614 00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:12,344 Speaker 9: was prepared for no matter what was asked of me. 615 00:26:13,144 --> 00:26:15,544 Speaker 9: I just wanted to make sure that my instrument was 616 00:26:15,584 --> 00:26:18,464 Speaker 9: ready because Glinda's vocal part is very different than what 617 00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:21,504 Speaker 9: I usually sang, so I wanted to train my muscles 618 00:26:21,504 --> 00:26:22,304 Speaker 9: and make sure. 619 00:26:22,544 --> 00:26:24,704 Speaker 2: That I was in shape, and we both just really 620 00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:26,504 Speaker 2: left it all in there. Yeah, we just wanted to 621 00:26:26,584 --> 00:26:28,424 Speaker 2: leave everything. I even left my lashes on the mirror 622 00:26:28,464 --> 00:26:29,224 Speaker 2: and I ended up with. 623 00:26:29,144 --> 00:26:34,064 Speaker 8: This ridiculous Oh really, Yah, I got sick immediately afterwards. 624 00:26:34,144 --> 00:26:39,304 Speaker 1: Yes, we've given everything and I was just Harry Morris 625 00:26:39,424 --> 00:26:41,144 Speaker 1: is a beautiful story of how she found out she 626 00:26:41,264 --> 00:26:43,464 Speaker 1: was in the movie with you both surprising her. What 627 00:26:43,544 --> 00:26:45,064 Speaker 1: was that moment like for you when you found out 628 00:26:45,064 --> 00:26:45,984 Speaker 1: you'd landed the roles? 629 00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:52,184 Speaker 8: Oh, very very emotional. Yeah, changed that changed our lives, Yeah, 630 00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:54,984 Speaker 8: for sure, of course, just to be I mean, John 631 00:26:55,064 --> 00:26:57,944 Speaker 8: is so wonderful that he wanted to make that moment 632 00:26:57,984 --> 00:27:00,504 Speaker 8: really special for us, and the fact that he took 633 00:27:00,504 --> 00:27:02,824 Speaker 8: the time and made the effort to do that with 634 00:27:02,904 --> 00:27:05,664 Speaker 8: our teams was really special. And it's one that it 635 00:27:05,704 --> 00:27:08,704 Speaker 8: meant that we would never ever forget that that moment. 636 00:27:08,824 --> 00:27:12,864 Speaker 2: Yes, all of them did. Bernie Telsey, the casting kid director, 637 00:27:12,984 --> 00:27:15,424 Speaker 2: he was in a show. He was at a theater 638 00:27:15,584 --> 00:27:17,624 Speaker 2: and he ran out of the theater because he heard 639 00:27:17,624 --> 00:27:18,384 Speaker 2: that they were calling us. 640 00:27:18,544 --> 00:27:19,984 Speaker 3: He just left. Had to be a part of it. 641 00:27:20,304 --> 00:27:23,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very special. I don't think I've ever felt 642 00:27:23,184 --> 00:27:24,584 Speaker 2: that feeling in my life. 643 00:27:24,664 --> 00:27:25,864 Speaker 3: I just felt I never. 644 00:27:26,224 --> 00:27:32,224 Speaker 2: Torrential downpour of gratitude and like, oh my goodness, this 645 00:27:32,424 --> 00:27:35,464 Speaker 2: is everything's happened, and everything will be okay no matter what. 646 00:27:35,984 --> 00:27:37,784 Speaker 7: Because we get to do this thing and now we 647 00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:38,664 Speaker 7: have to do it well. 648 00:27:38,784 --> 00:27:41,504 Speaker 1: So, speaking of the I can see the relationship you 649 00:27:41,584 --> 00:27:43,624 Speaker 1: formed over making this movie. I wanted to ask you 650 00:27:43,664 --> 00:27:45,944 Speaker 1: about that because I think one of the reasons why 651 00:27:46,064 --> 00:27:48,544 Speaker 1: Wicked is so enduring, apart from the songs and the 652 00:27:48,664 --> 00:27:50,624 Speaker 1: characters and the costumes, is that I can't think of 653 00:27:50,664 --> 00:27:54,424 Speaker 1: anything else that centers the complexities of female friendship as 654 00:27:54,504 --> 00:27:57,104 Speaker 1: the central part of the show. And so I wanted 655 00:27:57,144 --> 00:27:58,744 Speaker 1: to ask you, do you think we're still in a 656 00:27:58,784 --> 00:28:01,144 Speaker 1: world where women are being pitted against each other? And 657 00:28:01,184 --> 00:28:02,944 Speaker 1: do you think this movie being out there is going 658 00:28:02,984 --> 00:28:05,744 Speaker 1: to change the conversation, because that's that's how it feels. 659 00:28:06,024 --> 00:28:07,384 Speaker 7: I think we definitely are. 660 00:28:07,464 --> 00:28:10,984 Speaker 2: But I think we're also in an environment time when 661 00:28:11,144 --> 00:28:13,584 Speaker 2: women are more supportive of one another than ever and 662 00:28:14,584 --> 00:28:18,584 Speaker 2: spoke loud and not afraid to set boundaries and stand 663 00:28:18,664 --> 00:28:20,104 Speaker 2: up for themselves and their friends. 664 00:28:20,264 --> 00:28:22,144 Speaker 7: And it really is a beautiful time. 665 00:28:22,184 --> 00:28:26,064 Speaker 10: So even though things will always try, there's something that's 666 00:28:26,064 --> 00:28:29,584 Speaker 10: coming into at least really actually wonderful to watch as 667 00:28:30,304 --> 00:28:35,424 Speaker 10: women and new artists and are coming together, collaborating and 668 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:39,944 Speaker 10: making it clear that we're not to bed against each 669 00:28:39,944 --> 00:28:40,384 Speaker 10: other anymore. 670 00:28:40,464 --> 00:28:42,384 Speaker 1: If I did not try, and if you saw the 671 00:28:42,424 --> 00:28:44,384 Speaker 1: women lining in that carpet to see you both yesterday, 672 00:28:44,424 --> 00:28:46,224 Speaker 1: and they would not be having that is not. 673 00:28:46,264 --> 00:28:47,184 Speaker 3: What they were there to see. 674 00:28:47,384 --> 00:28:47,584 Speaker 9: You know. 675 00:28:47,864 --> 00:28:49,464 Speaker 3: It's self supportive. It's been wonderful. 676 00:28:49,704 --> 00:28:51,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to ask you as well about 677 00:28:51,424 --> 00:28:53,824 Speaker 1: a very iconic song that's coming in the next movie 678 00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:56,904 Speaker 1: for good, where your characters sing to each other. Because 679 00:28:56,904 --> 00:28:59,304 Speaker 1: I knew you, I've been changed for the better. So 680 00:28:59,344 --> 00:29:01,384 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, since you've met and formed 681 00:29:01,424 --> 00:29:04,024 Speaker 1: this relationship and made these films together, how have you 682 00:29:04,104 --> 00:29:05,264 Speaker 1: changed each other for the good? 683 00:29:06,144 --> 00:29:06,344 Speaker 9: Oh? 684 00:29:06,424 --> 00:29:08,624 Speaker 3: My goodness, I don't even know where to start. 685 00:29:08,624 --> 00:29:09,304 Speaker 7: I really don't. 686 00:29:09,384 --> 00:29:12,424 Speaker 3: I think there's not like just one thing. 687 00:29:12,744 --> 00:29:15,464 Speaker 8: I think the way we've communicated and the way we've 688 00:29:15,584 --> 00:29:18,384 Speaker 8: held space for one another, the way we've been honest 689 00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,184 Speaker 8: with each other. I think this is a relationship this 690 00:29:21,344 --> 00:29:26,104 Speaker 8: unlike any because we've sort of managed to meet each 691 00:29:26,104 --> 00:29:29,224 Speaker 8: other on a really even thing field and have made 692 00:29:29,264 --> 00:29:32,144 Speaker 8: the choice to be good for one another and take 693 00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:33,344 Speaker 8: care of each other and be. 694 00:29:33,344 --> 00:29:36,264 Speaker 2: Honest and lead with empathy every single day and meet 695 00:29:36,264 --> 00:29:39,264 Speaker 2: the other where we're at, you know, it's been so beautiful, 696 00:29:39,824 --> 00:29:43,064 Speaker 2: and I don't know, I feel I feel very spoiled 697 00:29:43,104 --> 00:29:45,744 Speaker 2: by that and very grateful for that because it just 698 00:29:45,904 --> 00:29:48,544 Speaker 2: sets the tones for everything via. 699 00:29:49,464 --> 00:29:51,344 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for your time, and thank 700 00:29:51,384 --> 00:29:54,264 Speaker 1: you so much. And I'm such a die hard Wicked fan. 701 00:29:54,344 --> 00:29:57,824 Speaker 1: It's not just my favorite thing in the world. It 702 00:29:58,104 --> 00:29:59,224 Speaker 1: really lives up to the hype. 703 00:29:59,264 --> 00:30:03,184 Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you very much, thank you. No, 704 00:30:03,704 --> 00:30:10,864 Speaker 3: I wanted to keep going. No, it's really quick emotional. 705 00:30:11,584 --> 00:30:13,904 Speaker 1: I didn't think they caught her fixing my lipstick on camera, 706 00:30:14,104 --> 00:30:15,384 Speaker 1: but glad about that. 707 00:30:15,504 --> 00:30:18,224 Speaker 3: So we have to post that on the spilling we will. 708 00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:20,784 Speaker 4: Can you just give me a minute, let me just 709 00:30:20,824 --> 00:30:23,784 Speaker 4: process or just want I just witnessed right there what 710 00:30:23,904 --> 00:30:27,664 Speaker 4: they said about that changing their life and being the 711 00:30:27,704 --> 00:30:30,704 Speaker 4: biggest thing that's ever happened to their lives is like 712 00:30:31,304 --> 00:30:34,504 Speaker 4: such a unique experience that so many people will never 713 00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:35,784 Speaker 4: experience in their lifetime. 714 00:30:36,544 --> 00:30:37,264 Speaker 3: And that made. 715 00:30:37,144 --> 00:30:41,704 Speaker 4: Me like you're about to cry to that. That made 716 00:30:41,744 --> 00:30:44,784 Speaker 4: me so emotional, like I can't even like it's just 717 00:30:44,864 --> 00:30:46,704 Speaker 4: the way they described that, like that's something I've never 718 00:30:46,744 --> 00:30:48,744 Speaker 4: felt before, and I feel like that's something that everyone 719 00:30:48,744 --> 00:30:51,104 Speaker 4: wants to feel once in their lifetime, and it's just 720 00:30:51,104 --> 00:30:54,904 Speaker 4: so nice to see women who like deserve it, like 721 00:30:54,904 --> 00:30:57,344 Speaker 4: like you, I love Cynthia Evo, and like I want 722 00:30:57,344 --> 00:30:58,904 Speaker 4: her to get an ego and I'm like, I want 723 00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:00,984 Speaker 4: you to have everything you ever dreamt off because like 724 00:31:01,064 --> 00:31:04,384 Speaker 4: the way she explains that just shows that they so 725 00:31:04,624 --> 00:31:06,984 Speaker 4: deeply care about the work they put into that movie, 726 00:31:07,024 --> 00:31:08,704 Speaker 4: which came across so well. 727 00:31:09,144 --> 00:31:10,744 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I wanted to ask 728 00:31:10,824 --> 00:31:13,464 Speaker 1: like Ariana in particular about the build up to it, 729 00:31:13,504 --> 00:31:16,344 Speaker 1: because I think she has talked about it before. She's 730 00:31:16,464 --> 00:31:20,384 Speaker 1: very aware that people were nervous about her casting. And 731 00:31:20,424 --> 00:31:23,264 Speaker 1: then I think the reason that she wanted to she's 732 00:31:23,304 --> 00:31:25,424 Speaker 1: like really driving that home. The work she did is 733 00:31:25,464 --> 00:31:28,824 Speaker 1: to kind of circumvent that. And it was interesting because 734 00:31:28,864 --> 00:31:30,904 Speaker 1: what you probably can't see from just listening to that 735 00:31:31,024 --> 00:31:33,304 Speaker 1: is when I started my question about women being pitted 736 00:31:33,304 --> 00:31:36,184 Speaker 1: against each other, they both looked a little shocked, and 737 00:31:36,224 --> 00:31:38,504 Speaker 1: they a few times during the interview they kept leaning 738 00:31:38,544 --> 00:31:40,344 Speaker 1: into each other and they would often lean over and 739 00:31:40,384 --> 00:31:43,224 Speaker 1: hold hands, which they got matching tattoos on their hands. 740 00:31:43,224 --> 00:31:45,664 Speaker 1: When they put their hands together, the tattoos join, which 741 00:31:45,664 --> 00:31:46,544 Speaker 1: is another amazing thing. 742 00:31:46,584 --> 00:31:48,624 Speaker 3: You can't see, you. 743 00:31:48,624 --> 00:31:52,064 Speaker 1: Could never be up if we need to get matching tattoos. 744 00:31:52,184 --> 00:31:55,704 Speaker 1: Act you get sp and I get ill, I double well, 745 00:31:57,304 --> 00:31:59,944 Speaker 1: and it won't be the same. And I think they're 746 00:32:00,064 --> 00:32:02,584 Speaker 1: very protective each other, and they're sort of just really 747 00:32:02,664 --> 00:32:04,544 Speaker 1: kicking off this world wide press to us. So I 748 00:32:04,544 --> 00:32:07,224 Speaker 1: think they don't know yet how the public is and 749 00:32:07,544 --> 00:32:09,664 Speaker 1: media is going to treat them in some cases, and 750 00:32:09,704 --> 00:32:11,544 Speaker 1: so I think they're very protective and they don't want 751 00:32:11,624 --> 00:32:15,824 Speaker 1: anything out there that would even hint that this relationship 752 00:32:15,824 --> 00:32:18,184 Speaker 1: they have is for publicity or anything like that. And 753 00:32:18,224 --> 00:32:20,344 Speaker 1: so when I went to ask them that question, they 754 00:32:20,624 --> 00:32:23,264 Speaker 1: leant into each other and started holding hands, and then 755 00:32:23,304 --> 00:32:24,904 Speaker 1: Ariana is looking at Cynthia. 756 00:32:24,984 --> 00:32:26,864 Speaker 3: It's such a split second. I didn't even know the. 757 00:32:26,904 --> 00:32:28,984 Speaker 1: Video if you would really pick it up, because I 758 00:32:29,024 --> 00:32:31,184 Speaker 1: think she's thinking that am I asking if they have 759 00:32:31,304 --> 00:32:33,864 Speaker 1: that against each other? And my soul left my body 760 00:32:33,864 --> 00:32:36,184 Speaker 1: because I want to say no, like I'm on your side. 761 00:32:36,264 --> 00:32:39,504 Speaker 3: I believe I'm That's why they answered so quickly. 762 00:32:39,824 --> 00:32:41,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing they both started answering before 763 00:32:41,704 --> 00:32:43,304 Speaker 1: i'd finish my question, jumping and being I think it 764 00:32:43,304 --> 00:32:45,104 Speaker 1: will change. I think it will, and I wish I 765 00:32:45,104 --> 00:32:46,864 Speaker 1: had more time to give them the backstory and saying like, 766 00:32:47,184 --> 00:32:48,704 Speaker 1: just so you guys know, like I work in pop 767 00:32:48,744 --> 00:32:52,264 Speaker 1: culture media, and nothing clicks across the world. Nothing gets 768 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:55,224 Speaker 1: more side traffic, more podcast traffic, more views on TikTok, 769 00:32:55,304 --> 00:32:57,824 Speaker 1: than the idea that two famous women might not get 770 00:32:57,824 --> 00:33:00,584 Speaker 1: along or have some sort of beef or have something 771 00:33:01,024 --> 00:33:03,304 Speaker 1: even if just a famous woman is involved and it's 772 00:33:03,304 --> 00:33:05,064 Speaker 1: with a man, as we saw with Blake Lively, Like, 773 00:33:05,464 --> 00:33:08,024 Speaker 1: and I do hate that side of it, even though 774 00:33:08,064 --> 00:33:10,824 Speaker 1: like it, you know, is what makes the media world 775 00:33:10,864 --> 00:33:13,384 Speaker 1: turn round in many cases, and so I wanted to 776 00:33:13,384 --> 00:33:15,384 Speaker 1: ask them about that. But I do think that they 777 00:33:15,424 --> 00:33:17,944 Speaker 1: thought that I was maybe leaning into do you guys 778 00:33:17,984 --> 00:33:20,144 Speaker 1: hate each other? Or what I was like, this whole thing, 779 00:33:20,144 --> 00:33:22,344 Speaker 1: there's tatoos, They're gonna rubus from books of Water on you. 780 00:33:22,744 --> 00:33:24,784 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of a moment where I 781 00:33:24,944 --> 00:33:26,584 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I just don't know if that kind 782 00:33:26,584 --> 00:33:28,424 Speaker 1: of like hit the way it was supposed. 783 00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:31,104 Speaker 4: I think it did hit because I think like we 784 00:33:31,184 --> 00:33:33,464 Speaker 4: have talked about it in the past and like there's 785 00:33:33,584 --> 00:33:35,704 Speaker 4: no point harping on about it. But I think Ariana 786 00:33:35,744 --> 00:33:39,784 Speaker 4: grind the especially with her relationship, has had so many 787 00:33:40,024 --> 00:33:43,224 Speaker 4: of like the she's not a girl's girl. 788 00:33:43,344 --> 00:33:45,504 Speaker 3: Those accusations have been out there. Yeah, and I can 789 00:33:45,904 --> 00:33:49,184 Speaker 3: I felt like it was risky hearts that question. But 790 00:33:49,184 --> 00:33:50,384 Speaker 3: for me, do you think it was? 791 00:33:50,544 --> 00:33:50,864 Speaker 5: For me? 792 00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:53,464 Speaker 4: It was mainly because I know so much about that. Obviously, 793 00:33:53,544 --> 00:33:55,504 Speaker 4: not everyone is as chronically online as we are, where 794 00:33:55,544 --> 00:33:58,144 Speaker 4: we read these deep pieces and stuff and what's happening 795 00:33:58,504 --> 00:34:02,304 Speaker 4: on socials. But I thought you were going you were 796 00:34:02,304 --> 00:34:06,024 Speaker 4: referring to those comments when I asked. I mean, look, 797 00:34:06,224 --> 00:34:08,824 Speaker 4: I wasn't still a fair to ask, because that's what 798 00:34:08,824 --> 00:34:11,424 Speaker 4: people are talking about, right, And I think they answered 799 00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:12,464 Speaker 4: that really well. 800 00:34:12,504 --> 00:34:12,944 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 801 00:34:13,064 --> 00:34:15,264 Speaker 1: I think in the lead up to this, Ariana in particular, 802 00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:17,384 Speaker 1: and I guess because she has this kind of huge 803 00:34:17,464 --> 00:34:20,064 Speaker 1: level of global theme that's built on celebrity as much 804 00:34:20,104 --> 00:34:23,384 Speaker 1: as it's built on her work, and so her storyline 805 00:34:23,464 --> 00:34:25,104 Speaker 1: leading up to this has been very different to everyone 806 00:34:25,184 --> 00:34:27,264 Speaker 1: else Whereas Cynthia, everyone's been like. 807 00:34:27,264 --> 00:34:28,744 Speaker 3: We love her and she's a real star. 808 00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:31,424 Speaker 1: And Jonathan Bailey were in love with him, and Jeff 809 00:34:31,424 --> 00:34:33,664 Speaker 1: goldwoman in love with him. Michelle Yeo who wasn't there, 810 00:34:33,744 --> 00:34:36,984 Speaker 1: but people as Madame Morrible, people love her and she's 811 00:34:36,984 --> 00:34:39,624 Speaker 1: an Oscar Winner, and I'm so excited Tona. 812 00:34:39,624 --> 00:34:40,944 Speaker 3: But I would have dropped dead if I saw her. 813 00:34:41,024 --> 00:34:44,544 Speaker 3: I actually would have would have dried your life body. 814 00:34:45,064 --> 00:34:47,184 Speaker 1: This is what I mean. And but then the conversation 815 00:34:47,224 --> 00:34:49,384 Speaker 1: around Ariana leading up to this is like, is she 816 00:34:49,384 --> 00:34:51,624 Speaker 1: good enough for the role? Is she just there because 817 00:34:51,624 --> 00:34:54,704 Speaker 1: she's famous? Did she break up a marriage with her 818 00:34:54,744 --> 00:34:55,224 Speaker 1: co star? 819 00:34:56,104 --> 00:34:56,224 Speaker 9: She? 820 00:34:56,424 --> 00:34:58,344 Speaker 1: Is she not a girl's girl? Has she had beef 821 00:34:58,424 --> 00:35:00,224 Speaker 1: with co stars in the past? Who does she still 822 00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:02,144 Speaker 1: talk to? Who does she not like? It was very 823 00:35:02,224 --> 00:35:04,984 Speaker 1: different set up for her, and I think that maybe 824 00:35:04,984 --> 00:35:06,544 Speaker 1: she would never say it, but I feel like she's 825 00:35:06,584 --> 00:35:09,104 Speaker 1: so aware of it, and so I think that there's 826 00:35:09,704 --> 00:35:12,424 Speaker 1: there's a different layer of questions that she's going to 827 00:35:12,504 --> 00:35:13,864 Speaker 1: have to face on this press to it, and I 828 00:35:13,904 --> 00:35:15,904 Speaker 1: think she's very aware of it. But I think she 829 00:35:15,944 --> 00:35:17,744 Speaker 1: did a good job of speaking on it. And I'm not 830 00:35:17,784 --> 00:35:18,984 Speaker 1: just saying this because I was in the room with her, 831 00:35:18,984 --> 00:35:21,144 Speaker 1: because I would tell it to you guys straight. I 832 00:35:21,144 --> 00:35:23,104 Speaker 1: think she was a bit guarded, but I think she 833 00:35:23,184 --> 00:35:27,304 Speaker 1: also that's almost a moment when that question, that small 834 00:35:27,384 --> 00:35:30,224 Speaker 1: question about women being pitted against each other where her 835 00:35:30,264 --> 00:35:32,744 Speaker 1: guard dropped, because can you hear her beautiful, musical little 836 00:35:32,784 --> 00:35:35,704 Speaker 1: voice go and don't fuck with us, like, and she's 837 00:35:35,704 --> 00:35:38,064 Speaker 1: whispering it because I think she's probably like Glinda doesn't swear, 838 00:35:38,624 --> 00:35:41,184 Speaker 1: but she can't hold it in, and it's like you 839 00:35:41,304 --> 00:35:43,144 Speaker 1: kind of see the real bit of her in that 840 00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:45,504 Speaker 1: moment of the interview. So and then I just told 841 00:35:45,544 --> 00:35:47,584 Speaker 1: them I love them, and then I walked outside. I'm crying, No, 842 00:35:47,824 --> 00:35:49,584 Speaker 1: I want to cry. And then I waited an hour 843 00:35:49,664 --> 00:35:55,264 Speaker 1: to get my tapes. I have my recordings, and that 844 00:35:55,344 --> 00:35:56,864 Speaker 1: was interesting because then all the journalists had to be 845 00:35:56,904 --> 00:35:59,064 Speaker 1: held in the space together, all waiting for our tapes 846 00:35:59,104 --> 00:36:01,944 Speaker 1: to be delivered to us. Everyone had had like very 847 00:36:01,944 --> 00:36:04,224 Speaker 1: different experiences with them of them being guarded or them 848 00:36:04,264 --> 00:36:06,704 Speaker 1: being kind of open, and I think it was, yeah, 849 00:36:06,744 --> 00:36:10,024 Speaker 1: a real, real momentous experience with so many people. I think, 850 00:36:10,104 --> 00:36:11,584 Speaker 1: just coming off what that movie means. 851 00:36:11,624 --> 00:36:15,144 Speaker 4: So I can't wait for everyone to watch it. And 852 00:36:15,344 --> 00:36:18,104 Speaker 4: we definitely will be doing a broodly honest review. 853 00:36:18,584 --> 00:36:20,984 Speaker 1: We had a lovely spiller sitting behind us at the 854 00:36:20,984 --> 00:36:24,984 Speaker 1: premiere who suggested that and I was like, we're stealing 855 00:36:25,024 --> 00:36:26,864 Speaker 1: your idea, Jess, Yeah, thank. 856 00:36:26,664 --> 00:36:27,184 Speaker 3: You, Jess. 857 00:36:27,344 --> 00:36:28,984 Speaker 1: I was too stressed to even think about that, but 858 00:36:29,024 --> 00:36:30,304 Speaker 1: you're right, that's happening. 859 00:36:30,424 --> 00:36:31,424 Speaker 3: So we kid. 860 00:36:31,464 --> 00:36:33,824 Speaker 1: Part one is coming out in Austray in cinemas on 861 00:36:33,864 --> 00:36:35,264 Speaker 1: the twenty first of November. 862 00:36:35,744 --> 00:36:36,544 Speaker 3: Go and see it. 863 00:36:36,544 --> 00:36:39,304 Speaker 1: And then let Emily and I know because obviously this 864 00:36:39,344 --> 00:36:41,344 Speaker 1: is all we care about, we want to talk about, 865 00:36:41,424 --> 00:36:43,304 Speaker 1: and yeah, thank you very much, talk it. 866 00:36:44,464 --> 00:36:46,824 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 867 00:36:47,184 --> 00:36:50,264 Speaker 4: We also have video footage of these interviews, including the 868 00:36:50,344 --> 00:36:54,464 Speaker 4: Little Lipstick mishap with Laura and Cynthia. If you want 869 00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:56,464 Speaker 4: to watch those, we will be posting that on our 870 00:36:56,504 --> 00:37:00,344 Speaker 4: Instagram at the Spill Podcast, leave a comment, and also 871 00:37:00,544 --> 00:37:03,584 Speaker 4: while you're listening, leave a rate and review five stars only. 872 00:37:03,944 --> 00:37:05,904 Speaker 4: We will be back here on your podcast speed at 873 00:37:05,944 --> 00:37:07,184 Speaker 4: three pm tomorrow. 874 00:37:07,504 --> 00:37:11,504 Speaker 1: Bye bye, Cell Up, sive up.