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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia

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Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm em Vernon.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Laura Brodney.

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Speaker 2: And it is a weekend watch day.

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Speaker 1: Is it the best time of the week? Some would

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Speaker 1: say so. We know you guys think so. That's why

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Speaker 1: we're doing these bonus episodes because you crazy kids can't

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Speaker 1: get enough.

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Speaker 2: It is the best time of the week. We've got

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Speaker 2: two really juicy weekend watches for you, one bit more

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Speaker 2: juicy than the other.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's bringing up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can I go first?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You? Why do you probably want to go first?

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Speaker 1: Because you just need to get this out.

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Speaker 2: I want to I have to set the scene. Oh okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: Sanks going get me out. And if you stop listening

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Speaker 2: after I name this show, I'm going to be really

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Speaker 2: mad at you. But hear me out. I am recommending

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Speaker 2: season seven of the hit reality TV show Derived to

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Speaker 2: Survive on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling? The sport is stuff.

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Speaker 2: You cannot underestimate the mental pressure.

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Speaker 1: You have all the eyes on you from the outside.

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Speaker 1: Nothing to see here. We are the conditions of Formula one. Hi,

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Speaker 1: look perfect. You hear those shuffling footsteps in the door closing.

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Speaker 1: That's me leaving to survive, Emily.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've recommended this show so many times on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: It is about Formula one racing.

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Speaker 1: It is not helping.

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Speaker 2: It is about all of these really hot drivers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how you're getting there's my attention.

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Speaker 2: Really hot drivers, and they're really hot team principals battling

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Speaker 2: it out. They're all these billionaires. It's a lot. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot. Okay. So I'm going to try to make

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Speaker 2: it sound like something that you were definitely gonna watch,

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Speaker 2: because I feel I could make comvincy that it's very

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Speaker 2: real Housewives.

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Speaker 1: You lost me, you know, I watch real.

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Speaker 2: It's very keeping up interesting summer house.

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Speaker 1: Secret shame.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So let's start off with Lewis Hamilton. Okay, he's hot.

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Speaker 1: I've seen pictures, I believe, yes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Lewis Hamilton, right, he has been ride and

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Speaker 2: die with Mercedes pretty much his whole career, like Mercedes

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Speaker 2: was winning, winning, winning, winning, and then in the last

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Speaker 2: two years they started losing and not even in just

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Speaker 2: a bad way, but in a way that messed up

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Speaker 2: his back because they tried to make the car so

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Speaker 2: it was announced that Lewis Hamilton was moving to Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: I'm just pitching the reality TV cameras like rush to

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Speaker 2: He took off his teal and silver suit and underneath

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Speaker 2: I'm Lewis Hamilton. And everyone knows that no matter what

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Speaker 2: team Lewis Hamilton's on, it's the winning team, is it? Yes?

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Speaker 1: So the car this is always think about racing, like,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a game of skill, but sometimes isn't

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Speaker 1: it who has the better car? Or you're saying, it's

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Speaker 2: It has to be the fastest car.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's flummy, the.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is very real housewives.

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Speaker 2: So it's a lot of brand maance goes on. But

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Speaker 2: there's two drivers per team. If Lewis Hamilton moves from

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then there's something else going. Okay, we have

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Speaker 2: do we so, Lando, Yes, we do so. Lando Norris

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Speaker 2: drives for McLaren. McLaren has been having okay season so far,

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Speaker 2: then in this season of Drive to Survive, which I

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Speaker 2: the Race for twenty twenty five starts this weekend. I'm

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Speaker 1: Are you really?

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Speaker 1: Okay, the lead?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: You're going to Melbourne to watch this.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be there for my first ever F

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Speaker 2: one ira you bought.

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Speaker 1: You bought your own plane, tickets and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm being sent by a company.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but the fact you even.

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Speaker 2: Want to go is still a wild So I'm talking

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Speaker 2: coming out to be like a diff ocasion of Lando

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Speaker 2: Until twenty twenty four, so he was always called Lando

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Speaker 2: They usually win in like the first few years, and

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Speaker 2: doing this. So now Lando Norris and Maxistappan are best friends.

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Speaker 2: But now are they friends because now they're just competing

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Speaker 2: they're both hot heads. Oh so this is the funniest part.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they were like being interviewed right because they

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Speaker 2: being interviewed by press and he was like, if Max

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Speaker 2: doesn't accept responsibility for this crash, I'm gonna lose so

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Speaker 2: much respect for him. And then the camera pans out

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Speaker 2: because a lot of people forgot about the Christian Horner controversy.

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Speaker 1: I know I did, which happened. I didn't hear about

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Speaker 2: So he's a red Bull team principalll eyes of him

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Speaker 2: because this is the wedding team for the past few years.

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Speaker 2: So there were some pretty serious sexual allegations made against him.

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Speaker 2: Those allegations were dismissed, but then the day after those

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Speaker 2: an anonymous email with a backlog of all the text messages,

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Speaker 2: oh my god photos between him and this person. I'm

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay. My initial thoughts on this is that I'm

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Speaker 1: in the TV show The Witcher, like put a gun

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Speaker 1: to my head. I could not repeat what you just said.

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Speaker 1: But a well made documentary series will make you care

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would have actively avoided anything about them?

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Speaker 1: Do I now know all their backstories? And like who's

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Speaker 2: Yes? Oh my god, Elber, You're gonna love this. It's

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Speaker 2: just like these really hot headed men who are really talented,

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Speaker 1: So wait, what season is the new one that just

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Speaker 1: I have to watch the first six seasons? Sounds like it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like once you watch the first season, you'll

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Speaker 2: be like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It's not that I don't think that women like this,

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Speaker 1: because our office is full of women who are obsessed

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Speaker 1: They just watch it and they're obsessed. So it is

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Speaker 1: a thing. I just don't know if it's my thing.

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Speaker 1: But that's the most exciting I've ever Also, just.

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Speaker 2: Like literally the term rite or die. Unlike any other sport,

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Speaker 2: there's only twenty people in the entire world who can

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Speaker 2: right like Litis Hamilton took someone's spot and Ferrari. So

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Speaker 2: what's Carlo Sayin's gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Things that will keep me up at the time, Carlo.

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Speaker 2: Says she's getting kicked out of his own team and

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Speaker 2: he's trying really hard.

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Speaker 1: On Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, watch you right now before the new season starts

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Speaker 2: this weekend. I'll be there. Look out for me on camera.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I can't make mine sound that exciting because

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Speaker 1: it's very serious in an interesting way. As we know

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Speaker 1: the girls, the Spillers, they love their crime, they love

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Speaker 1: their true crime. So this is this is what true crime.

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Speaker 1: It is true crime. So it's called Long Bright River

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Speaker 1: and it's a show that has just come out on

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Speaker 1: stand and it stars Amanda Seafreed. So you'd be probably

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Speaker 1: just done a big international press tour for Long Bright River,

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Speaker 1: sing has singing. Oh yeah, yes, it's a musical. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Weekend Watch episode. We will be back here in your

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Speaker 2: podcast feed later this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, B.