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Speaker 1: I think that when you're on level one, it's really

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Speaker 1: It's harder than it was at level one. But imagine

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 2: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 2: the good, bad and ugly, The best and worst day

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Speaker 2: will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm

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Speaker 2: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 2: untrebernout who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 2: matcha Maiden and matcha Milkbar. CZA is a series of

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Speaker 2: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Hallo,

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Speaker 2: lovely yahlhood. I have missed you guys so much. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the show after approximately ninety two business months

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Speaker 2: since the last episode. I am so grateful for all

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Speaker 2: of your patients during our extended hiatus. It's actually only

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Speaker 2: to be back. If you've been following along on Social's,

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Speaker 2: and our little Teddy is just the sweetest boy who

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Speaker 2: It's been the best but also the messiest, hardest, and

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Speaker 2: of our lives chat with and and also assume most

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Speaker 2: I couldn't have picked a better first guest back than

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Speaker 2: Matilda Murray. As you'll hear, she is pretty much a

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Speaker 1: stigma that people need to know what their passion is.

433
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Speaker 1: It's like, if you're listening to this and like you

434
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 1: are working a job that you don't love, but you

435
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,919
Speaker 1: also don't know what the job will be that you

436
00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 1: will love, that's okay too. Like I own an active

437
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,920
Speaker 1: web brand, and I didn't necessarily grow up loving Acts

438
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 1: of War, like I ended up like falling into it

439
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 1: without looking. And I think when you're open to opportunity

440
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,520
Speaker 1: and you're just like genuinely like attracting things and you're

441
00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 1: in that mindset where like things will work out, you

442
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 1: just have to be open to it, I think that's

443
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 1: when like these opportunities start presenting themselves. So if you

444
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 1: are feeling like you really don't know what is next

445
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 1: or like what your passion is, like, that's cool. It's fine.

446
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 1: Live life, enjoy life, find out what you love, and

447
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 1: just be open to opportunities.

448
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that so much. When I was sort

449
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,959
Speaker 2: of in that same space just before we had our

450
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: first business idea, and I wasn't loving what I was doing.

451
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 2: My mom said to me, if you don't know what

452
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,199
Speaker 2: you want to do, you still have to do something,

453
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 2: Like the time is going to pass anyway, so you

454
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 2: might as well enjoy the ride, Like if you're always

455
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: waiting for this passion to kind of drop out of

456
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 2: the universe into your lap, like, that's not how it happens.

457
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 2: It's by trying things, by meeting people, by having conversations,

458
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, like I said before, no job is

459
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: ever a waste if you're getting closer and closer in

460
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: towards a thing that you love. And part of that

461
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 2: is finding out that you don't like something. I think

462
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,719
Speaker 2: is just as important as finding out what you do like,

463
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 2: because that's also a piece of the puzzle. It's like

464
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: seizing the Ya to me, is a big jigsaw puzzle,

465
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 2: and each experience, you're either getting new pieces that you

466
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: didn't know about or you're getting rid of old pieces

467
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: that don't serve you anymore. And it's okay that that's

468
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: evolving the whole time. It's not meant to be this

469
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,479
Speaker 2: one jigsaw puzzle and it stays like that forever. So

470
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: now that we get to the Stacks chapter, what I

471
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: also love is that at the beginning. Like now we

472
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: look at your jigsaw puzzle and it's enormously like wildly

473
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 2: successful online, multimillion dollar business. You're opening new retail stores.

474
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 2: In real life you've got second left, like you're in

475
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: Paris doing amazing things. But again, I think people forget

476
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 2: that you guys started in like storerooms where you couldn't

477
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 2: afford electricity. And I was reading that Don would pack

478
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: pick and pack orders with a torch on his head

479
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: because you couldn't afford the light to be on like that.

480
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's cliche that started a garage, but it's

481
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: cliche because that's how things grow. They grow from humble beginning.

482
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 2: So talk us through the bit that wasn't as easy

483
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 2: and wasn't as glamorous, and that was just like that

484
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: messy grind at the beginning.

485
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So when I met Don, he had Stacks

486
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: already and it started as a supplement store, and that's

487
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: why he was still working in Stucks. He wasn't owning

488
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: this store that he was working at, but he had

489
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: worked for a store previously called Muscle Stacks, so he

490
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 1: owned muscle Stack. Sorry, And then the supplement side of

491
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: things didn't go too well, and he ended up just

492
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: losing the muscle. I say, but the door's like, hey, no,

493
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: I still have muscle. No, no, no. He took the

494
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: word muscle away and then he just had stacks. So

495
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: he started stacks and he was selling like a few

496
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: hoodies here and there. And I always thought, like, I

497
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, Like I will be the sugar

498
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: mama in my recruitment corporate job, and like you can

499
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: sell your like it's fine, babe, like whatever, had no

500
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: interest in it. Cute kid, Yeah, I was like, cute,

501
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: don't worry, I'll meet the money. It's fine. That's so

502
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: when I met him, he had started that, and then

503
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: he was just doing that from his mum's spare room,

504
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: and we ended up dating, and then I started being

505
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: opinion needed about the things that he was doing and

506
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: the products that he was releasing. Or I would be

507
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: helping out the photoshoots and he would be getting me

508
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: to bodel some of the products. And then I started, like,

509
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: like I said, having an opinion on things. So we

510
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: ended up moving in together and his little spare room

511
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: I was going to say warehouse, but absolutely wasn't. His

512
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: little spare room went to my dad's spare room. We

513
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: lived with my dad and then we had like the

514
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: spare room. Then we eventually moved out and we pretty

515
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: much just like lived and breathed in this warehouse space.

516
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: We were in an apartment, but it was majority of

517
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: it was just taken up by boxes and it was

518
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: just like stax boxes, So that was everywhere. And that

519
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: was when I was still working in recruitment. And then

520
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: it got to a point where we had like no

521
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: room to eat dinner because that was just like boxes everywhere.

522
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: And we were pickpacking twenty four to seven. And then

523
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: that's when he got this storage unit. We had electricity

524
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: in Perth, but but not Sydney. Yes see he's very expensive.

525
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: So we moved across the Sydney with a couple of

526
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: our boxes and like we had the smallest storage, you know,

527
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: the smallest department in Perth, Like there wasn't a lot

528
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like, we moved across the Sydney and I

529
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: was still working in recruitment. That's how we were able

530
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: to afford to move to Sydney's I got a transfer

531
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: with my work, moved across the Sydney and I was

532
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: still working full time. And then Don was doing full

533
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: time stacks and in this storage unit. There was no

534
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: electricity in the storage unit. So yeah, he used to

535
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: wear like one of those like the miners hats with

536
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: the light on them, and that's how he packed the orders.

537
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: And there was no reception either, so he'd have to

538
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: like pack one order and then go outside lift his

539
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: phone up like you know, like when people stand on

540
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: mountains so you get electricity. That's what a school camp.

541
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Speaker 2: Whatever.

542
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Do you think they ever ran out of service? Though?

543
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Those phones can do it all.

544
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, they're bricks. I'm like, now, you could

545
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 2: just like go to space and just hold you knock

546
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: here out and then still get signal.

547
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: Literally, you still wouldn't have had to charge it since

548
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: like you ready, yeah.

549
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: I know, I still it'd still work if I found

550
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 2: it now and turned it on totally totally.

551
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: So he would go there and like lift his phone

552
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: up and get the next order and then go back in.

553
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: So like that was absolutely not glamorous. I never saw

554
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: that because he was too embarrassed that that was where

555
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: like our you know, the room was, so I never

556
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: saw him do it. He sent me selfies, but I

557
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: never actually went into that one and then yeah, I

558
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: was still working full time and we eventually then got

559
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: into a warehouse and I remember you could just fit

560
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: a car in the warehouse and like this, I was

561
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: like I lost my mind, Like I couldn't believe us

562
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: any photos to everyone I knew about it, And yeah,

563
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: then COVID happened, so those dreams were put on hold

564
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: for a little while, and it was just like the

565
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: two of us, like we had to I did the modeling,

566
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: he did the photo shoots, and yeah, it was actually

567
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: such a crazy time to think. The way I say

568
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: it sounds so casual, but I mean this was like

569
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: many many years in the lead up. And then the

570
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 1: only way we were able to move across to Sydney,

571
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: which has a lot more opportunity than per had, was

572
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: because I was still working full time, so I was

573
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: still having to support Don having to turn up every

574
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: day for this job which I had to keep because

575
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: that was our source of income, but knowing that it

576
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: wasn't what I wanted to do long term. So it

577
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: was definitely a journey. But to think we went from

578
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: like his mum's spare room to the warehouse space we're

579
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: here in Sydney now, it blows my mind.

580
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love it and I love reading

581
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: like that's the bit that makes me the most excited

582
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: is reading about those early days when I think about

583
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: you two kind of in the trenches, having no idea

584
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: where it could end up. That's what makes me excited

585
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: because people hearing about that makes them believe that they

586
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: could get to where you are now. Like I feel

587
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: like now is amazing and it's so it's so wonderful

588
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: to talk about that. But for someone who's like earlier

589
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: in their journey, it's so hard for them to conceive

590
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: that they could end up where you are. But reminding

591
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: everyone that you did start with like a miner's hat,

592
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: that Don was so embarrassed off that he wouldn't actually

593
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: let you do the work with him, that's so cute,

594
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: it's so sweet. Yeah, And I think it's probably easy

595
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: for you to forget as well, that that's kind of

596
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: where you began, and that you began without finishing school,

597
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: without either of you having like proper business training, that

598
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: neither of you had a family member who is in

599
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: manufacturing or that had any kind of in with active

600
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: way either. Do you think that that was maybe the

601
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: naivety kind of helps you. Like I said, think sometimes

602
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: if you don't know better, it's actually good for you.

603
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, one hundred percent. Like if I knew

604
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: all the problems that we'd have to solve, like I

605
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't do it because it's just it's a bit

606
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: scary to look at it like that. One let's start,

607
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: No one would do anything if you knew what was

608
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: coming up, You just wouldn't do it. Because the thing is,

609
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: I think of life like a video game, right, and

610
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: I think that when you're on level one, it's really

611
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: really hard for you, and you are on level one,

612
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: you have to beat the baddy at the end of

613
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: the level to get to level two, and once you

614
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: beat the baddy or beat the challenge, you're on to

615
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: level two. And when you're onto level two, it's also

616
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: really really hard, and then you have to beat the

617
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: baddie at the end to level two. It's harder than

618
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: it was at level one. But imagine if you saw

619
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: and level one all of the challenges that you have

620
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: up and coming, because I don't think the challenges ever end, right,

621
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Like you're like, yeah, sure, I like level ten is

622
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: so much harder than level one, but it still feels

623
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: the same. Oh yes, you still have to beat the baddie,

624
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: right Like, it doesn't get easier, it's just a different challenge,

625
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: and you're more equipped because of what you did in

626
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: the lower levels. So I think if you were like

627
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: to be given like a crystal ball and see all

628
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: the things that you have to it would be too

629
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: much like naivety. Is like is bliss in that sense

630
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: because even like Don and I are first generation entrepreneurs, right,

631
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: like neither of our families like have like done anything

632
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: like this before, So we're just winging it. We're still

633
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: beinging it now, and I think that's like one of

634
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: the best We don't have mentorships or we don't have

635
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: mentors or anything like this, so I think that it's

636
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: definitely meant that we've learned a lot of lessons that

637
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: probably could have been avoided, but we had to go

638
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: through the trenches in order to learn the lessons properly.

639
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: I think sometimes if you're just told what to do

640
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: all the time, you're not really equipped to beat the

641
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: baddy on the next level when you're left by yourself.

642
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: And that's something that Don and I are really great

643
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: for us that like we've learned how to level up

644
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: on every single level, just the two of us every time.

645
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: And so yeah, no, I think if I knew what

646
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: was coming, it's been amazing. But if I knew what

647
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: I had to go through, you Dunny, I'm just being recruitment,

648
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: like it's fine.

649
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that so much. I'm so

650
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: glad that you were the first guest back because you're

651
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: pretty much all the things that are in my brain

652
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: that I've been saying on the show for so long.

653
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: You're just saying them in a more eloquent, articulate way

654
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: and hammering it home because I always I say that too.

655
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: I feel like you think that. So I left law

656
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: and went into business, and I felt that that was

657
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: like that that was one level. It was like I

658
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: went from A to B. I took a leap the end,

659
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: Like that's the end of getting out of the comfort zone.

660
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm set for life. I'll never have another version of me.

661
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: Tick found my passion. And then I realized the video

662
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: game thing, and I kind of refer it to it

663
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: as a staircase, but video games with a baddie is

664
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: way more fun. I'm totally using that for the rest

665
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: of ever, yes, but I always say, like, you don't

666
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: have to see the whole staircase to take the next step.

667
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: In fact, you're not supposed to see staircase like step ten.

668
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: You're meant to start at one and then do two,

669
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: and then do three and again. If I'd seen step ten,

670
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: never would have left my job for step ten, because

671
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: holy shit, that looks awful, like amazing, but way too

672
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: hard and if you don't do all the tiny little

673
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: steps along the way, you'd never get to ten. So

674
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 2: the video game thing is amazing.

675
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: The game doesn't end right, yeah, it.

676
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: Just goes forever.

677
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: It goes forever. But it's fun. It's like we love

678
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: video games. It's like the perfect I think we're gamers.

679
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: We're gamers. Everyone is. I love I love just Sims.

680
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: It's so funny, Like Don and I always think as well,

681
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: when there's so much going on, like we've got a

682
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: million problems to solve, it feels like everything's against us.

683
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: We always say it's because we're at the end of

684
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: our level. Like all the baddies that you are, they're

685
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: all like, these are all the things, and proof isn't

686
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: the pudding Because if you're listening to this and you

687
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: feel like everything is against you right now, because sometimes

688
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: it does get like that. It just means that you're

689
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: at the end of your level and you're about to

690
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: level up and DoD and I I think we're probably

691
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: still going through it now. The last couple of days.

692
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: It's been hard for us, but it just means because

693
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: it's happened so many times before, and it will continuously

694
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: happen for the rest of our I was gonna say careers,

695
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: but the rest of our lives, they'll be like, you know,

696
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: when it rains at pause, but when it's pouring, it

697
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: means that the rain will stop and then there's sunshine,

698
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: and then you're on the next level. And the next

699
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: level is really fine at the start, and then you

700
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: get really good at the level, and then it starts

701
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: to rain again. But there'll always be another level, like

702
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: you'll always get through it. So I know, like we

703
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of again I'm like spinning it into positivity, but

704
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: we kind of thrive in this kind of chaos as well,

705
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: because we're like, it's okay, we've gotten through something similar before,

706
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: we can do it again.

707
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: I think you've just genuinely changed so many people's lives

708
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: with the video game analogy, because once you can conceive

709
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: of what's happening to you, it's not nearly as hard

710
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: to deal with. Like, I think that's the key to

711
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: having a positive mindset is being able to see it

712
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: in the broader Like if you just focused on what

713
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: you're feeling right now, which is shit, chaos or full

714
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: tied exhausted failure, you know, you wouldn't be able to

715
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: see that in the broader scheme of things. It's cause

716
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: you're at the end. It's because all the baddies are

717
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: hitting you just as you're about to step up to

718
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: the next level. So I think that's so that's just

719
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: the best analogy I've ever heard for that ongoing like

720
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: the comfort zone catching up with you and you do

721
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: you get to this complacent bit where it's all chill,

722
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: and that's usually when I'm like, wait, oh my god,

723
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: something's about to happen, Like this can't last too long

724
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: because it's just too good to be true. Along the way,

725
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: for you, guys, what would you say have been the

726
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: biggest baddies? So what have been the things that really

727
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: particularly working as a couple, Because it's you fell in

728
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 2: love at the same time as you went into business

729
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: and then you got married in COVID, So there's always

730
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: been this like positivity but like adversity at the same time,

731
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: and going into each other's professional arenas is a huge

732
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: challenge as well, when the dynamics are you out earning

733
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: him at the start and then it being his business

734
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: to begin with, and you're kind of coming into his space,

735
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Like how did you guys navigate the emotional dynamics?

736
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: John and I were talking about this the other day. Actually,

737
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: we were saying, like money has never been an issue

738
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: for us, Like it was never weird that I was

739
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: out earning him at the start, or that it was

740
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: his business or that he predominantly like he's the CEO,

741
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that, Like I don't know. We

742
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: have a really fantastic relationship and a fantastic balance. We

743
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: also have different, very different personalities and very different roles

744
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: within the business. So I do a lot of the

745
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: front facing stuff. I do all of the pr I

746
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: do the socials, I do this kind of stuff, and

747
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Don like does the design work. He does the hiring.

748
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Like it's funny he does like the recruitment side of things,

749
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't manage any of the start.

750
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting.

751
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm out. I'm out, Like I like to see

752
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: everyone's big sister, right, Like I'm the personality higher. That's

753
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: what I say.

754
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: She's for culture.

755
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Literally, I don't want to have to do that. And

756
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: so I'm lucky that Don thrives at that. Like we

757
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: have a really great balance of what we do and

758
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: don't like, and they seem to like be the opposites,

759
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: which is amazing. Yeah, And in terms of like the

760
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: baddies between Don and I are like navigating the relationship,

761
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: I think we're very lucky that we have the same goal.

762
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: So like, even if we are having a disagreement on something,

763
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: we know that we're passionate about it because we have

764
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: the same goal and the same like we want the

765
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: business to do well. We want it to be a

766
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: good business decision. We definitely bicker and we'll fight about things,

767
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: but we always know that we have the same goal

768
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and we just keep

769
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: working until we come to a solution for it. And

770
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: we're very much like if he is super passionate and

771
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: he just knows this will work, and I'm like, oh,

772
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it's not like my if it's

773
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: his passion, will do it. If it's my passion, we'll

774
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: do it. Do you know what I mean? Like, if

775
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: someone really wants to fight for it and believes in it,

776
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: then we have each other's back. I'm your number one

777
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: supporter and vice versa. So I don't think that's like

778
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: that for everyone, Like I don't think everyone should go

779
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: into business with their husbands like, but sometimes it just works. Yeah,

780
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it just works, and we are very lucky that

781
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: it does for us. Then we just have that level

782
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: of respect and faith and trust in each other and

783
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: our decisions that we will always just do what is

784
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: best for us and what is best for the business.

785
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: I love that you guys can maintain that perspective because

786
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: there's also so much ego I think tied up in

787
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: your livelihood, like your productivity, and for a lot of people,

788
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: there is a lot of traditional gender roles and money

789
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: does play a really big role. And it's amazing that

790
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: from the beginning it wasn't sort of a big obstacle

791
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: for you guys, and it shows. I think it shows

792
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: that you guys are such a strong team, Like you're

793
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: in it together as a couple that works together, but

794
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: also as a couple like your personal life as well,

795
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: that you've kind of, yeah, just got so much respect

796
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: for each other and each other's different skill sets when

797
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: you do have like conflict resolution. Do you guys have

798
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: a take on the split between your work life and

799
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: personal life? Like some people even work life balance. Some

800
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: people don't think that's a thing. It's all just one

801
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: big beautiful mess. How do you guys treat that? When

802
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: you're traveling all the time and often your holidays are

803
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: work holidays, Like you're in power for work, Like, how

804
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: do you find time for just the relationship or is

805
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: it all one?

806
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a beautiful mess. I would say, like

807
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: there's no like you can't just like switch off from work.

808
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: But like I'm very lucky because I love my work,

809
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily want to be switching off. And like, sure,

810
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: we'll be in Paris for like and have to do work,

811
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: but we're in Paris, Like it's.

812
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean.

813
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, so you wake up in the mornings

814
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: like when we travel, and we'll work for like the

815
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: first like four or five hours in bed, But like

816
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's Okay, I'm having a croissant, and I'm like, like,

817
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: I've never put on an out of office and I've

818
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: never we've never been able to completely switch off, like well,

819
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: we never have an off day. But like there's so

820
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: many things that I'm so grateful for the fact that,

821
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: like you know, for example, I'm in bed eating a

822
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: croissant and drinking a coffee and doing my emails. I mean,

823
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: things could be worse. So it's like there's like sacrifices

824
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: that you have to take, Like it's give and take, right,

825
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: But when it comes to like work life balance, I

826
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: don't think I mean Don and I aren't like discussing

827
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: accounts at like ten pm or we're not like we

828
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: definitely know the boundaries. So I think we do have

829
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: a work life balance. Now. At the start, we probably

830
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't because it was like go go go twenty four

831
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: to seven. Whereas now, yeah, I would say we do

832
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: have a work life balance without trying. Like we don't

833
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: like switch off at a particular time. It's just kind

834
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: of naturally gone that way. But in saying that, sometimes

835
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: I like watch True Housewives of Beverly Hills and they're

836
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: wearing stacks and I'm like, this is work, Okay, now,

837
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: well okay cool, do you know what I mean? Like

838
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: that's fun. Like there's definitely there's shitty times at work

839
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: that I don't want to bring home, but sometimes you

840
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: just have to. Like sometimes you don't get that balance,

841
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: but you do get a lot of ups and downs always.

842
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: I think it's like give and take. Totally, yeah, totally.

843
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: I feel like, honestly, we spent the biggest part of

844
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: most episodes on the batties, on the negatives, on the challenges,

845
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: and you're like the most well adjusted person I've ever met,

846
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: And I think it does come down to that seeing

847
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: the positives, Like there is always a positive even in

848
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: the shittest times. There's like a silver lining that you

849
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: can look for of what you learned for them next chapter,

850
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: and it serves you really well. It means that you

851
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: have a beautiful life because every even the shit bits,

852
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: you can kind of see in perspective.

853
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: I think you're able to make much clearer decisions as well,

854
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: Like when you're not like so emotional about things, I

855
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: think that's so important is just being able to take

856
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: emotions out of situations. Look at them, they are what

857
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: they are let's train make the best out of it,

858
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: or let's work out how we will go forward.

859
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So when it comes to Stax

860
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: and Second Left, there are I have so many questions

861
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: for you, Like I could literally speak in five hours,

862
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: but I know there's a lot of podcasts and materials

863
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: that have gone through the actual business mechanics, so I

864
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: don't want to spend too much time on that and

865
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: spend more about them behind the scenes. But just for

866
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: anyone the one or two people living under a rock

867
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: who don't already know about Stacks and Second Left, it's

868
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: amazing that you guys entered a market, went through COVID,

869
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: didn't have a foot in the door, and in a

870
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: very like otherwise quite saturated market, which is usually what

871
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: people say is like a big no no as a startup, like,

872
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: don't go into something where there's eighty five urs people

873
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: already there. You've still managed to cut through and make

874
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: huge amount of noise when there's already huge players in

875
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: the game that had bigger resources, more experience boards and whatever.

876
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: If you're giving someone like a one liner who'd never

877
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: heard of Stax, what makes you guys different and special?

878
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: What do you think has been the key to the

879
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: global success. Like literally Real Housewives, you watch it, your

880
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: product is on them, that is insane. And then second

881
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: left as the little sister. How would you describe that

882
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: to someone who had no idea?

883
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: So Stacks so we make the best black tights. That's

884
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: my one liner. I would say we make the best

885
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: active way in Australia. And we are the most size

886
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: inclusive brand as well, so we're the first active web

887
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: brand to go for twenty sizes, so it's extra extra

888
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: small to size for itself which is a size Australian

889
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: four to an Australian twenty four. So we are inclusive.

890
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: We make a fantastic product. Don and I are very

891
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: hands on with the business. We believe in our product

892
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and yeah it's been like almost ten years now of

893
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: Stacks and we're so proud of it and we truly

894
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: believe we have the best product out there. So our

895
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: nandex range is amazing. We've got our premium seamless. We

896
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: also do a lot of like sweats and tracksuits and

897
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: things like that. What you're wearing now, Yeah, we have

898
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: the best product. That's what I think is the standout

899
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,479
Speaker 1: key and the difference. And then Second Left is our

900
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: global brand, So we want to be able to expand

901
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: our ranges, expand you know, go into fashion, go into

902
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: different things as opposed to just gymwear and active wear,

903
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: which is what STACKS is. So Second Left is like

904
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: our little baby at the moment. It's really exciting because

905
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: it's definitely like small fish, big pond situation, right like,

906
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: or we get to put all of the things that

907
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: we've learned with STACKS into play with Second Left and

908
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: just like do it a little bit differently. So second

909
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: Left means when everyone tells you to go right or

910
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: to go one way, you go left, but you take

911
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: the second left and you're just doing things the way

912
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: that you want to do it, dancing to the beat

913
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: of your own drum kind of thing, which is something

914
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Don and I am very passionate about. So that's the

915
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: global brand. STAS is the Australian homegrown best active weares Australia.

916
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between the two.

917
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love that. Do you look back

918
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: and think, like, holy shit, in a decade, look what

919
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: you've done, Like, do you ever stop and celebrate those

920
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: huge milestones?

921
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: It's so crazy like, I wish we did it more.

922
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard, Like sometimes you look back and it's like,

923
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I feel disconnected from it, but

924
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: because there's like so much going on all the time,

925
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: and I'm so like, I think everything's like an analogy, right,

926
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: like a bicycle. So if you're like, you can't really

927
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: stop riding the bicycle because then you'll fall off, Like

928
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: you have to keep heading, and so sometimes I feel

929
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: like you just keep padling and you don't really look back,

930
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: and then when you do look back, I'm like, wow,

931
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: like it is crazy, but I'm not gonna lie. I

932
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: do sometimes feel a little bit disconnected to the journey

933
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: because there's always so much going on. Like I wish

934
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: I was better at reflecting and being like, holy shit,

935
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: we did so much about I'm very like in the

936
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: moment kind of girl, which definitely serves its purpose, But

937
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: that is something I wish I was better at as well.

938
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: Was was just like reflecting and celebrating.

939
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: I think that's quite a common reflection of business people,

940
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: and it's just because you're in it all the time

941
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: in the trenches, and if you did stop and celebrate,

942
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: you probably lose the momentum that you want to have

943
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: to improve on the next iteration of who you are,

944
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: and like, as you said, the next video game level

945
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: has started. It's not going to wait for you to

946
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: have a party at the end. But still, like if

947
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: you did look back, are there any moments that really

948
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: stand out to you? Like the Perth couple who started

949
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: in the warehouse with a like minus torch on your head?

950
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: Are there moments where you stop and you think, holy shit,

951
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: like seeing it on TV placed on like the biggest

952
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: celebrities in the world, Like what are some of the

953
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: coolest things that have happened that stand out to you?

954
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: And then what are some of the shittest moments that

955
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: you've had as well?

956
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: You know, the coolest things are still going to be

957
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the spottos every day, like Don and I. I feel

958
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: like it sounds cliche, but Don and I will be

959
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: like walking down the street and we'll like, we like

960
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: try and play cool just in case, like the people

961
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: wearing it don't know who we are and don't like

962
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: want anything. Who are these weirdos like staring at me

963
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: or getting.

964
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: Excited staring at my butt?

965
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Actually, oh my god, Don used to do that. He

966
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: used to be like nice tights or like the baby.

967
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: You can't say that to the babe, leave that to me.

968
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not say anything unless you're providing context. That's

969
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: not going to come across the way that you mean.

970
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: So like we're like like tap each other or like

971
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: we get like so giddy and excited. So to be honest,

972
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: that is like, that's my favorite thing is just like

973
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: seeing it like in the wild, seeing people out on

974
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: the street wearing our stuff and loving our stuff and

975
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: just like raving about the product. That's my favorite. Like

976
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: the celebrity placements are so incredible they pinch me moments,

977
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: but my absolute fate is literally just like spotting it

978
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: in the wild. And then my least favorite bits are

979
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: just having to like make all these grown up decisions

980
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: that no one really tells you you have to make.

981
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: And like, for example, when COVID hit, no one had

982
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: ever been through something like that before, Like no one

983
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: knew what was going on. And I remember we were

984
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: doing premium scen unless the second version two, like the

985
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: second edition of it, and we had empty out our

986
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: bank accounts and we put all of our money towards

987
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: this collection. And the collection was on a ship and

988
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: it was on its way over to Australia and then

989
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: the world run into lockdown.

990
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: I read about this and you lost the container.

991
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had no communication with anyone, and that was

992
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: all about money ownership and like it was lockdown. Don

993
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: and I are in this empty warehouse. This is the

994
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: warehouse where you could put the car in. Don and

995
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I are in this empty house, like sitting on.

996
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: The floor, empty car space.

997
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Literally we're like, what the fuck do we do? We

998
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: have no idea where any of our like, how do

999
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: we know what happened next? Because you don't know what

1000
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: happened to next. No one knew what was going to

1001
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: happen next, and that was so stressful, Like just to

1002
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: re emphasize, we put in all of our money into

1003
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: this hoping this contained, like expecting the container to arrive

1004
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: like normal. Didn't arrive. We couldn't do the photo shoots

1005
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: because the world had gone into lockdown. So that's when

1006
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: John ended up. Don's like a self trained, self taught photographer,

1007
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: so he took photos of me in a warehouse and

1008
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm not modeled by any chance, but we made this work.

1009
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: We posted the picks and thankfully the container did end

1010
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: up arriving and we sold out of the whole collection

1011
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: in sixty seconds, and it blew a mind the moment

1012
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: like thank god, like thank god everything happened the way

1013
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: that it did. But that was petrifying. And then it

1014
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: was like a huge range of emotions, right, we didn't

1015
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: know what the hell was going on, and then next

1016
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: minute to sell out and we were like, because you

1017
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know what people are going to be doing during

1018
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: lockdown either, like everyone was online.

1019
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank god, we're wearing leggings.

1020
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I had no idea, so like to

1021
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: go from one extreme to another, that was like absolute madness.

1022
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: And then it's still just selling out and it's still

1023
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: just Don and I sitting in this empty warehouse. We're like, okay, cool,

1024
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: Like cool, guys, it's crazy, Like it's crazy to think

1025
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: like something like that can happen, like a sellout or

1026
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: like all this productor and then it's still just like

1027
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: little Don and I behind the scenes in like an

1028
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: empty room. We're like, okay, cool, Like I guess we

1029
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: should pack some orders. Like it's so funny. I mean

1030
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: like if it gets like this whole big thing and

1031
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, it's just two little humans, like

1032
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: trying their best behind the scenes.

1033
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when you say the team at this

1034
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: business is so excited to bah blah blah, and when

1035
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: we were saying that, it was like two of us

1036
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: in our undies, like packing matcha into bags, like breaking bad. Yeah,

1037
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: it's so funny that you kind of have to fake

1038
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: it to your make it. But that's why I love

1039
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 2: going through this stuff because before social media, you couldn't

1040
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: see the behind the scenes of a business. You didn't

1041
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: know that it was just two people sharing that. You know,

1042
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: it can look really big on the outside, but it

1043
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: doesn't always start that way. You don't always have a warehouse.

1044
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: And if anyone is listening and is really interested in

1045
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: some of the business mechanics of the sellouts, there's a

1046
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: lot of articles out there and I had so much

1047
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: fun last night reading about how you guys do pre

1048
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: launch and how you sold like one jillion units off

1049
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: one sms, like those kind of strategies. If you guys

1050
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: want more business focus stuff, there's a lot of material

1051
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: out there, and you guys are absolute geniuses with the

1052
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: way that you market. It's insane, but one of the

1053
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: awesome things that has come out of this as well

1054
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: is that Matilda Murray has kind of become an arm

1055
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: of the business as well, because we are in an

1056
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: age where the story behind and the person kind of

1057
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: brand can also be part of the business. And I

1058
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: love when you do your Q and a's because some

1059
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: of the questions that come out, it's just like people

1060
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: are so interested in every single thing that you do.

1061
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: Like it's obviously you get the normal ones like where

1062
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: did you get that singlet? Or where did you get

1063
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: those earrings or whatever, but then there's like what fold

1064
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: of a crosshant do you like? Or like there's very

1065
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: very specific what is Matilda Murray doing in her life

1066
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: kind of questions and all just I don't think that like,

1067
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure there have been moments where some of them

1068
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: are weird and creepy, but most of them come across

1069
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: just like people are so interested in you. They're so

1070
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: interested in who you are outside of the business, and

1071
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: that's what I'd love to spend the rest of the

1072
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: episode on. So one of the things that I learned

1073
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: is that you're severely allergic to bananas. What else is

1074
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: quirky and interesting about you that people ask about or

1075
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: that people don't ask about like, I'm sure your identity

1076
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: doesn't get separated from stacks as much in real life,

1077
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: but if you could do it here artificially, like who

1078
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: are you when you're not in the business?

1079
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm really good at song lyrics, very good.

1080
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: I can probably tell you all the lyrics back. Like

1081
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: I just I am very good at song lyrics. I'm

1082
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: very good at picking up typos. Like it's actually so crazy,

1083
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: it's I wish that I had that skill like that,

1084
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: How good I am at that was like related to

1085
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: something else because you can put like a whole sign

1086
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: in front of me typo like I know it immediately,

1087
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: like it throw me and my staff hate it because

1088
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: like I will pick up anything and everything and it

1089
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: kills me. Song lyrics, typos. What else can I do?

1090
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I was going to say that my dog is my

1091
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: whole world, but you would already know that.

1092
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I love, adorable.

1093
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: What else is there about me? Yeah? Severely allergic to bananas,

1094
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: which is actually heartbreaking. I got my allergy at eighteen,

1095
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: so I know what I'm missing out on.

1096
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: Oh so you know, oh god, yeah, so you would

1097
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: have had a banana since then?

1098
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: Like ever, I have like here and there, and then

1099
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: I've like ended up very sick. But yeah, it's actually crazy,

1100
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: So that's a hard rating. Yeah, it's a tough.

1101
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: I know, babe, You're just doing it so tough, I know.

1102
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: But it's so funny though on socials because sometimes I

1103
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 1: want to be like so polished and so like chic,

1104
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: and then other times I feel myself like waxing my

1105
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: nostrils and I'm like, I want to what the people

1106
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: are here for, like like I'm not scaring them away.

1107
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: I think that's why people do love you so much though,

1108
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: because you do see this super polish like, like you said,

1109
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: doing emails, having a cross on in bed in Paris

1110
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: at a hotel, showcasing your own brand, which is super

1111
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: glam and it is actually part of your life so

1112
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: it's not not reality. But then at the same time

1113
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: you're like, guys, I had to literally get rid of

1114
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: these nostril hairs before I'd made this appearance. Like I

1115
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: think that's what they come for, the fact that you

1116
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: do share and you don't expect it either, Like I

1117
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: feel like you know a lot of mum accounts, you

1118
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: kind of expect a little bit more of the like

1119
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: milk everywhere, mess of child, you know, having children around

1120
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: or whatever. But at this stage in your life where

1121
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: you do have such polished clam moments, you don't necessarily

1122
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: think that you would feel comfortable enough to show the

1123
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: messy bits, but you always do and it's so endearing.

1124
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, cool, I'll continue to write my honest

1125
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: with that camera.

1126
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, like my weds, I always post my bloopers. It's

1127
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: like if I post a really polish, pretty photo in

1128
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: a nice outfit, I have to find the ugliest one

1129
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: in the thousand that we all take to get a

1130
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: nice photo and post it next to it because otherwise,

1131
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: like if you're not laughing at yourself, I feel like

1132
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm taking myself too seriously. And that content does better

1133
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: than any other content, Like the nice polish stuff doesn't

1134
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 2: do well ondred percent.

1135
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: Because people want to see like reality. But I think

1136
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: as well they do want to see a bit of

1137
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: like a bit of the polish stuff.

1138
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: Yes I do. Yeah, So what are the questions? Like

1139
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: you do your Q and as quite often, what are

1140
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: the things that come up the most? Like what do

1141
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: people really want to know about your life that you

1142
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: might you know, not be sharing enough of that they

1143
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: want more of.

1144
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: Is it just your day to day Yeah, day to

1145
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: day stuff, work life balance. People want a lot of

1146
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: my day in the life content, which I try to

1147
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: do so badly, but then I end up just like

1148
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: in meetings, like back to back meetings. Today is a busy,

1149
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: busy day, and I mean six meetings or something today,

1150
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't film any of like I

1151
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: don't know what to film, you know what I mean.

1152
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's boring.

1153
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: It is boring. But I would love to be able

1154
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: to share more of that kind of stuff, but sometimes

1155
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: I can't until it happens, you know what I mean.

1156
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm big on the evil eye as well, Like I'm

1157
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: big on like not putting things out there. Oh my god,

1158
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: you guys have to be careful because I've told people

1159
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: things that have happened before they've happened, and then they

1160
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: haven't happened, and it's happened like recently, I've been an

1161
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: oversharer and then things have fallen through.

1162
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So you're like keep it guarded until it's

1163
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: locked in. Yeah, yeah, interesting, which is hard. Yeah. What

1164
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: about the fact that, like, do you find it surreal

1165
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: that you have kind of become like I know, it's

1166
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: a strange age where the traditional idea of a celebrity

1167
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: has changed so much, Like people are interested in you

1168
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: guys to the same extent as they would be to

1169
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: like a Hollywood celebrity, and that's unusual because it's never

1170
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: been like that before where you could start a business

1171
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: and then propel into this like whole fan base. Do

1172
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: you find it weird, Like do people come up to you?

1173
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, people do come up to me. I absolutely love it.

1174
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: I love it. I love chatting to people. I love

1175
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: meeting new people. So yes, I'm all about it. I

1176
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: love it. It makes my day. Unless they're wearing another active

1177
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: web brand. Then that confuses.

1178
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like rude, don't have a change and come

1179
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: back and say, hell.

1180
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll wait for you. No, I'm kidding. I'm pidding,

1181
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: But it's good. A lot of my followers as well

1182
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: have like kind of the same sense of humor as me,

1183
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: so they know that I'm joking if I said something

1184
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: like that, or it does blow my mind, especially with

1185
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: like the questions and stuff that I get when people

1186
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: want to be like so they want the details of

1187
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: my life, I'm like, really, do you care about that,

1188
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: like what Deodo and I use or I don't know,

1189
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to think of a funny question that

1190
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: I get. But like when they want like the ins

1191
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 1: and outs and all the specifics, and I'm like, yeah,

1192
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to share, like I'd love to chat so

1193
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I can tell you anything you want. But yeah, it

1194
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: blows my mind that people are so like intrigued. But

1195
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: I love it and I'm so flattered by it, and yeah,

1196
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. So always say hi if you

1197
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: see me public, no matter what brand you're wearing.

1198
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: What would you say if? Or what would don say? Actually,

1199
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: I feel like it's easy to answer from a partner's

1200
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: point of view. Are like your three strengths and then

1201
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: your three the pet peeves he would have about you

1202
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 2: that are annoying.

1203
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Okay, one pet peeve is my positivity. I know that.

1204
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: I feel like that's such a strength though, although yeah,

1205
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: I get what you mean. Sometimes Nick's like it's not

1206
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: all fucking rainbows they're are.

1207
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just wants to have a bitch and I'm like,

1208
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm not the person for it. Like I was like,

1209
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm busy, Like my strength, I would say, can I

1210
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: say that positivity one as well, what positivity. I think

1211
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: I have a good sense of humor. I have a

1212
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: very clear mindset, like I'm not an overly emotional person,

1213
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm very into stoicism as well, like being stoic

1214
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: and seeing things for what they are. Yeah, I think

1215
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: my ability to like I don't really overreact to things.

1216
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I think that's probably one of the good things. Three negatives. Okay, so.

1217
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: You know, just like weird things. Yeah, Like like one

1218
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: are the things that he'd be like, oh she snores or.

1219
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he tells me my snoral. Sometimes he does

1220
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: tell me I stonal. Sometimes I can pick up all

1221
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: of his typos, so that's a good one. He doesn't

1222
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: use spell check.

1223
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: If he pisses me off, oh I can't.

1224
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, you should never talk to don agay. You

1225
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: won't understand anything that he's saying if you're testing no, no,

1226
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: no idea. And then I'm pretty messy. I leave my

1227
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: things around like I would come back and clean really,

1228
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: but he's a neat freak. Like he is so clean.

1229
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: He's like very Pinterest like you can't imagine like someone

1230
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: like a Pinterest board like his like area is set

1231
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: up and it looks like a Pinterest board, and like

1232
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: you open his bag and everything is so well organized

1233
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: and like every single thing is gorgeous in there, whereas

1234
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like kind of like am I gonna rush?

1235
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm a messy girl, Like everything is just like shoved in.

1236
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: I do go back every couple of days and tidy

1237
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: my space, naturally. My clothes are like just left on

1238
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: the floor after a shower and things like that.

1239
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: See, I feel like your shelf is always like so beautiful.

1240
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: But have you just organized some days.

1241
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: That I've cleaned, Yeah, okay, every couple of days and cleaning.

1242
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh well, the very last question, which I forgot is

1243
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: part of the show until right now, because my brain

1244
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: is the fact that again, like I mentioned, it's really

1245
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: hard to separate our identities from our work, and sometimes

1246
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: you don't even want to, Like it doesn't need to

1247
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: be this artificial like work Matilda and play Matilda. But

1248
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: I think you're a better business owner or you're a

1249
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: better worker or whatever, you're a better athlete when you

1250
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: do something that's not your work or that's not your productivity,

1251
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: like when you switch your brain off and watch a

1252
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: shitty show or have a hobby that's you don't have

1253
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: to be really good at and it's not about success

1254
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: and goals and that's just a fun How do you unwind?

1255
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: Or if you have like ten minutes or half an

1256
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: hour an hour to spend that you're not allowed to

1257
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: spend on work, what would you do?

1258
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: I have to work out every single day, Like that

1259
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: is so important to me into my mindset, Like I'm

1260
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: a much better person when I've worked out. So definitely

1261
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: need to work out. I'm a big podcast listener and

1262
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: at the moment, I'm all about like I love Tony Robbins,

1263
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: I love ed My Lair, I love Mel Robins. Not

1264
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: related to Tony, I love a podcast like that. When

1265
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: it comes to switching off, donn and I watch Criminal

1266
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: Minds every single night. I watching Criminal mind Yes, do

1267
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: you watch Criminal Minds?

1268
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god? So criminal Minds? Any Like all of

1269
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: the Law and Orders n cis, all of those shows

1270
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: are out like every night. At the moment, we're on

1271
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: like Chicago Med because I finished Chicago p D. No,

1272
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm on Chicago Fire and fall asleep to them like

1273
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: everyone's like sleep hygiene, Tony screens off. I need to

1274
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: fall asleep to television. Yeah, to murder, yeah, to like

1275
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: really messed up stuff.

1276
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: Like people try and read into it, and I'm like, don't,

1277
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: don't analyze, and oh my gosh, because I have an

1278
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: aora ring, right, so like I can track from all

1279
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: that stress. So I'm laying in bed and it was

1280
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Don's like, we're watching criminal and he's like, what did

1281
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: your or ring say about this? Because I tell him

1282
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Speaker 1: all the day, all day long, I'm like, I'm stressed

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Speaker 1: right now. Or if we if I wake up in

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Speaker 1: the morning and he hasn't asked about my sleep score,

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Speaker 1: we're in a fight.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, okay.

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm so passionate about my urr ring at the moment,

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: it's only meed as you can tell. And I lay

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00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: in bed watching Criminal Minds and he says he's a

1290
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: good man. He says, what's your stress score? At the moment?

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Speaker 1: I look at it relaxed, watching Criminal Minds.

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: And saying like crime podcasts, True crime. I'm like, why

1293
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: is the last thing I listened to a true murder story?

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00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: Like why? Yes, what's the reason?

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Speaker 1: You know why? It's because it's the only time that

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Speaker 1: something doesn't relate to our life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. So we're laid down, we're watching Criminal

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Speaker 1: Minds in bed, and I don't relate to any of it.

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00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: I can disconnect and I can just watch the show

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00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: and be like engulfed in the show, whereas like reality TV,

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00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, it's react. I say that loosely, it's reality

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: or you know there might be a spotto, which is amazing,

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00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: but it relates to my life. Or if I'm watching

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00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: some me and for watching the news, it relates to

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00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: my life. Like if I'm watching things that relates to

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: my life, but something like that, it is so far fetched.

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: That's when you can actually switch off. And it's not

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00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: an overly like peaceful show by any means, but it

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00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: does like it enables you to disconnect from reality, which

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: I think is so important.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're like the same person.

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: We actually are.

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: I tried to cut myself off once because I've read

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: all those studies about how it shows that you've got

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: like psychopathic tendencies if you watch them at night for

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00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: enjoyment and blah blah blah, and then I was like,

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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: you know what, it is the most relaxed I am

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: all day, because it's a one time. Yeah, where it's

1320
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: like a universe that is so foreign to you. Nothing's

1321
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: triggering me to my to do list. It's so yeah,

1322
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: engrossing that like you can actually unwind, and yet there's

1323
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: like probably something a little bit like damaging around it,

1324
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: but I just don't overread into it. It's fine, it's fine.

1325
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: We're well adjusted human beings.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And what I always say is that

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00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: I think my life is stressful. Look at their life.

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: They're running away from the cops, have done all this

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00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: bad stuff. Life is a breeze in comparison, So I'm like.

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00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, gratitude, it's a gratitude practice. Yeah, it's so weird.

1331
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: I've like come to peace with it now. I'm like,

1332
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: you know what, it's fine. I'm just going to embrace

1333
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: that side of me. And it's weird. People find it

1334
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: really weird because I'm such a positive life is beautiful.

1335
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: Everything happens for a reason. They're like, how do you

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00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: unite those two things? And I think it's because they

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00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: don't unite, Like that's why. It's like, it's not trying

1338
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: to tell me something motivational that I could work into

1339
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: a podcast. It's just yeah, separate worlds. I love that.

1340
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: That's the crux of the Plata's that it's meant to

1341
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: be something completely separate. So if you find a new

1342
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: good show, because I'm kind of like rapidly running out

1343
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: of shows, kick it over.

1344
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: I have so many.

1345
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: You know how you just did your La and Paris Rex.

1346
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh do like a crime show Rex post done.

1347
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: I'll do it just for you. You got it?

1348
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 2: Just tag me in it. We can do a co

1349
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: lab post for all my crime girlies. This is what

1350
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: we need.

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00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. We're gonna have to

1352
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: hang out in real life so we can get a

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: picture together.

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: I yeah watching it though, like in our track, is

1355
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: in our matching sets?

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Speaker 1: Done?

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00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you so much, my love. This has

1358
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: been so wonderful. You are such a breath of fresh air.

1359
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: I loved you before, I love you even more now.

1360
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: I didn't ask what's coming up next for you? Guys.

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: You've opened a lot of stores and had a lot

1362
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: of things going on. What is the next step? What

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00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: shall we be looking out for?

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00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a lot of stores in the pipeline.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're doing the best collection that we've

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Speaker 1: ever done. And I don't know how much time I

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00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: like to say about it because of the evil eye

1368
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: stuff that I just.

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I was gonna say, Yeah, why do I

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00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: even ask that question?

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00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: No, No, I can tell you that much because I'm

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00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: actually well, I did a steep peek on my story,

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: so a lot of people already know. But I have

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: like been very hands on with a particular collection that's

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: coming up. It's in my favorite colors, there's new style.

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: It's got to be the best thing we've ever done.

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for that specifically.

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Speaker 2: It's coming soon amazing. Well, I'm sure there is somewhere

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00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: that people can sign up to be on the VIP list,

1380
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: which is the amazing model that you guys are using,

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Speaker 2: so I will pop that in the show notes. Thank

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: you so much for so generously sharing your time. I

1383
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: know you're a very very busy human being, and for

1384
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: keeping us all comfortable and stylish.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me malve well.

1386
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that was the most eloquent I've ever been.

1387
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: I definitely felt a bit dustier than usual, but I

1388
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: just was so nervous. I couldn't believe how nervous I was,

1389
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: but I guess done is better than perfect, as we

1390
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: always say, and Matilda more than made up for it

1391
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: with her wisdom and eloquence. I just have so much

1392
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: passion for people's stories and getting inside their brains, and

1393
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: I've missed it so much. I hope you guys loved

1394
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: this first one back as much as I did, and

1395
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Speaker 2: if you did, please share the episode so that we

1396
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: can keep spreading the neighborhood again as far and wide

1397
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: as possible, and tag Matilda to thank her for her time.

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Speaker 2: I think guests always love hearing what landed most with you.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of you will find the video

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Speaker 2: game thing as valuable as I did, so yeah, please

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Speaker 2: do share, and Tagger if you've found any takeaways. I

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: think she'd love to hear it, and I'll also share

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Speaker 2: links to Stacks and Second Left so you can check

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: out their incredible range. There's a reason that I've been

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Speaker 2: living in both for years and that they've grown so

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Speaker 2: exponentially since they began. I'd also love to know what

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Speaker 2: you guys want to hear. Any tweaks that you want

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Speaker 2: to suggest for format or questions, or guests you want

1409
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: a request or anything now that we're back again. You

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Speaker 2: guys know I love to make sure the neighborhood is

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Speaker 2: getting exactly what it wants, so never stop hitting up

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Speaker 2: my DMS or emailing so that we can always make

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Speaker 2: sure this is a yighborhood production. Next up, we are

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Speaker 2: going to be doing an Olympic Spotlight because it is

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Speaker 2: that magical time every four years or every whatever years,

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01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: given the last couple of times have been a bit

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Speaker 2: thrown by the pandemic that shall not be named, but

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Speaker 2: it's such an emotional and exciting time for the world.

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: I just oh, there are so many dreams and stories

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Speaker 2: and people and the idea that talent just surpasses all

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Speaker 2: geographical and cultural boundaries. I get so emotional during the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: I always have. So we're going to be doing an

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Speaker 2: Olympic Spotlight of throwbacks because we've been so lucky to

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Speaker 2: have so many Olympians on the show who are now

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01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: doing so well in Paris and interesting they're not actually

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Speaker 2: allowed to record audio video interviews from the Olympic village

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01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: because we had a few lined up we will now

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Speaker 2: be hearing from after their Olympic campaigns. But I thought

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to go back and listen to some

1430
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: of them at the time we recorded them, because it

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Speaker 2: was well before some of the milestones they're hitting now,

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: and just reflect on how far they've come. So we'll

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Speaker 2: do a little throwback series. Yeah, I think there's seven

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Speaker 2: or eight Olympians who we've had on who are now

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Speaker 2: over the in Paris. And we'll also follow up with

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Speaker 2: a yeas of our lives catch up with and I'm

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Speaker 2: recording that in the next couple of days. We actually

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01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: did record one for you guys already a couple of

1439
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and we lost the entire file, which is

1440
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: maybe better. It was pretty unhinged, but I guess they

1441
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: always are. It was really funny. We laughed a lot

1442
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: and I'm so sad we couldn't bring it to you,

1443
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: But we will do another one so that you get

1444
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: a bit more of a life update. And in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: I hope you guys are having an amazing week. Everything

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: is going well. You're all safe, healthy and happy and

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Speaker 2: are seizing your yay. Reginent from German regained from the

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Speaker 2: m