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Speaker 3: On Makeup is My Therapy Love. I'm obsessed and I

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Pity, the Daily Podcast for your Faith.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Keilly McCarron, and it's twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five bibars.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five. Wow, the actual world.

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Speaker 2: Our break is over.

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Speaker 3: We are refreshed somewhatch.

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Speaker 2: We are definitely ready to get back into you beauty

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Speaker 2: this year because we love what we do.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely love what we do, and it is a

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Speaker 1: joy to be sitting here across from you yet again.

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Speaker 2: And you have beautiful, juicy lips. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: put some lip balm on while you tell people what

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Speaker 1: If you're new here, welcome on Mondays as always. Can

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Speaker 1: we answer your beauty questions or even just beauty adjacent Really,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so hit us with some questions.

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Speaker 2: We've got some great questions to kick off the first

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Speaker 3: Year, Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Later in the show, we are going to talk about

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Speaker 2: our chests, not our breasts, but people's chest chest.

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Speaker 1: See my chest, see my chest and make Harry No,

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Speaker 2: First see my best need from real Grid because some

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Speaker 2: of ours might have seen some sun over the break.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they haven't, but we will talk about that soon.

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Speaker 2: But first stuff, we have a question from Tina. Hi, Kelly,

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Speaker 2: and Lee, I hope you had a great Christmas. At

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Speaker 2: our Christmas lunch, I was telling my sister about Kelly's

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Speaker 2: snail musin and my uncle then told us soap is

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Speaker 2: made of whale fat.

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Speaker 3: That can't be true, can it?

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Speaker 1: It made me wonder what products or ingredients are made

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Speaker 1: from animal stuff we don't know about. Can you give

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Speaker 3: I love it. I want to know about your uncle

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Speaker 3: and how old he is.

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Speaker 2: So, yes, Kelly has talked about myself at a lesser

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Speaker 2: amount about snail muchin, which is like a hydrating product

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Speaker 2: that's made out of that little slime eat they have

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Speaker 2: like mesh.

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Speaker 1: Thing eat stuff, and then the snails just like carry

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Speaker 2: But great, So your uncle is not wrong, but it's

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Speaker 2: Whale oil, the original honestly probably very moisturizing. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: the original squalen was made. Yeah, an animal version of squalen. Wait,

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Speaker 2: the liver of a shark.

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Speaker 2: And also ambergree like that sort of sexy deep scent

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Speaker 3: So that was from whales.

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Speaker 1: Obviously to me, but not I guess to everyone. Laneline

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Speaker 2: So Lanylin is an animal product and oftentimes it's in

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Speaker 2: depicts keroten. Yes, so keraten oftentimes well was silk. Now

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Speaker 2: oftentimes it's a vegan version of silk.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it comes from the hoof of a horse.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did not know that. I knew it used

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Speaker 2: to be silk silk. The one I get kera silk

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Speaker 1: They actually are such different things. So vegan products they

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Speaker 1: And then cruelty free products are developed without using any

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Speaker 1: For courses, after the break, we're going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about our hairy, hairy chests. Hairy no, not hary's my

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Speaker 3: I've always been quite proud of this area.

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Speaker 1: Firstly, I don't want to sound to woo woo in

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Speaker 1: my twenty twenty five era. But Claire, there is nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with wrinkles. I know that this is a beauty

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Speaker 1: I hate that you say that you're slightly horrified and

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Speaker 3: I was in my early twenties. Yeah, used to roast that.

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Speaker 2: Area because it went a beautiful brown. And now I

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Speaker 3: You probably still dot pigmentation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because the pigmentation coming out is from twenty years

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Speaker 1: What I started doing when I was in my early

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Speaker 1: wake up, especially in the morning. Is I sleep between

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Speaker 1: a pillow between my tetes at night? Likely talk about

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Speaker 1: those silicon patches that you can get later. I don't

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Speaker 1: like the feeling of having anything want me, and.

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Speaker 2: If you're a side sleeper, they kind of pop off, exactly,

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Speaker 2: the tits. Yeah, you can actually get a pillow. It's

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Speaker 2: called the intimar breast pillow for chest sprinkles inside sleeping

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Speaker 2: and oh my god, it looks like this like chest

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Speaker 2: then it goes over your shop. It looks like a

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Speaker 3: Can you please link me? I can? I mean they're

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Speaker 2: It's made of like silk and stuff one hundred and

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Speaker 3: And then sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: Let me show you.

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Speaker 2: Many many times last year I probably lost count. I

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Speaker 2: I'm pair and it's humid, and I've just always sweated.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean I still sweated elsewhere, Like it probably

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Speaker 3: No, you don't.

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Speaker 3: We have some things.

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Speaker 2: We're going to have so many more treats for you

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: And I hope everyone enjoyed having us back in your ears.

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Speaker 1: of were still in the area. Yeah, I know, but

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back this year. And You Beauty

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Speaker 3: Bye Bye