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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 2: culture fixed. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick. Happy holidays,

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Speaker 2: We're still here, back in your ears and guess what

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Speaker 2: you don't want to say?

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Speaker 1: What? Oh what?

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Speaker 2: On today's show, we are diving into some of the

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Speaker 2: biggest celebrity scandals we've come across this year. There's been

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Speaker 2: a lot. We've narrowed down to four big ones that

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Speaker 2: we want to talk about, not necessarily the biggest scandals,

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Speaker 2: but probably our favorite ones that we've indulged in. But

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Speaker 2: first we want to just kind of like talk about

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Speaker 1: Yes, so there are a few serious stories in the

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Speaker 1: to extensively this year, and it looks like we don't

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Speaker 1: cycle this year and we're not happy about it, so

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Speaker 1: I guess the ongoing Sean Combe's story. At the time

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Speaker 1: sex trafficking and racketeering. A number of celebrity names have

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Speaker 2: I've got a bit of a lighter one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get away from bad men doing bad things.

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Speaker 2: I'm pushing it by saying that there's fault under the

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Lopez, more specifically Jennifer Lopez documentary. So j Loo

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Speaker 2: made an album called this is Me Dot Dot Dot Now.

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Speaker 2: She then made Howbout You, a visual album she tried

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Speaker 2: But there was a lot of drama that surrounded the documentary. Specifically,

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Speaker 2: More specifically, that's one scene that I feel like everyone

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Speaker 2: can picture in their heads where she's in a gym

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Speaker 1: And everyone's like, Jlo, you haven't lived in the Bronx

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Speaker 1: for cinematic experience, and that's what she's about with.

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Speaker 2: This specific documentary. I'm so glad I'm not rich, because

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Speaker 1: So another scandal from this year that we wanted to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where is she's We should like find out what

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Speaker 1: Which other celebrities are you looking to target this year

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Speaker 2: so picture this. It's June eighteenth. You are not Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 2: Guy. You get to the car, you're like, excuse me, sir,

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Speaker 2: then like, do you know how fast you're going? He

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Speaker 1: I'm trying this so hard not to just laugh and

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Speaker 2: I can smell some interesting flavors. Sounds like alcohol. You

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Speaker 2: discover it could possibly be alcohol. You ask him to

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Speaker 2: arrest him. The man Strangely, you didn't ask him to talk,

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Speaker 2: but he does. He says under his breath, this is

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Speaker 2: going to ruin the tall. You're confused because you're like,

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Speaker 2: what tool? But you didn't say that in your head.

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Speaker 2: You said it out loud. He said what tour That

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Speaker 1: I feel even that needs to win like a Grummy

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Speaker 2: But also you know what, there were layers the Northwest

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Speaker 2: fall into the hole of the conspiracy theory, just because

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00:21:17,064 --> 00:21:20,464
Speaker 2: the truth behind it didn't feel anywhere remotely close to

433
00:21:20,544 --> 00:21:22,704
Speaker 2: what it was actually going to be. Like, I think

434
00:21:22,784 --> 00:21:27,024
Speaker 2: everyone felt very safe in diving deep into what they

435
00:21:27,064 --> 00:21:29,904
Speaker 2: think actually happened to her, and they shouldn't have felt safe.

436
00:21:29,904 --> 00:21:33,544
Speaker 2: And I'm sure everyone felt so icky afterwards. But it

437
00:21:33,584 --> 00:21:35,544
Speaker 2: was weird to me because when the truth actually came

438
00:21:35,584 --> 00:21:38,744
Speaker 2: out of what happened, everyone was kind of like, oh, okay.

439
00:21:38,824 --> 00:21:41,384
Speaker 1: All the conspiracy theories, well, some people still cling to them,

440
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,824
Speaker 1: but a lot of them fell away. So I mean,

441
00:21:44,184 --> 00:21:45,944
Speaker 1: there's so many things happened, but I think on really

442
00:21:45,944 --> 00:21:48,184
Speaker 1: big catalysts. And this is also when we started reporting

443
00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:51,144
Speaker 1: on it because it became such international news. Was around

444
00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:54,904
Speaker 1: Mother's Day, the official Royal family accounts shared a photo

445
00:21:54,984 --> 00:21:58,344
Speaker 1: of Kate with her three children, and people started to

446
00:21:58,344 --> 00:22:01,824
Speaker 1: say it looked strange and different. And then we got

447
00:22:01,824 --> 00:22:04,144
Speaker 1: an email because we subscribed to the service that had

448
00:22:04,144 --> 00:22:07,504
Speaker 1: shared the photo, that the photo had been recalled because

449
00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:10,304
Speaker 1: it had been edited in some way and they couldn't

450
00:22:10,664 --> 00:22:13,064
Speaker 1: five it was real or not. So once the Royal

451
00:22:13,104 --> 00:22:14,864
Speaker 1: Family put out a photo of Kate and then it

452
00:22:14,904 --> 00:22:17,984
Speaker 1: was recalled for potentially being false, I think that's when

453
00:22:17,984 --> 00:22:19,544
Speaker 1: the headlines really kicked off.

454
00:22:19,624 --> 00:22:21,744
Speaker 2: And it was like the site that they sent the

455
00:22:21,784 --> 00:22:25,024
Speaker 2: photo to, yes, right, So it was like the site

456
00:22:25,024 --> 00:22:27,424
Speaker 2: to where we were able to legally use the photo

457
00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:29,904
Speaker 2: recall it, not the actual Royal family, Yes.

458
00:22:30,024 --> 00:22:32,184
Speaker 1: And then they had to put out a statement sort

459
00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,224
Speaker 1: of talking about what happened. Well, actually they didn't really

460
00:22:34,224 --> 00:22:37,104
Speaker 1: It fell to Kate to do it, and so she.

461
00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:39,384
Speaker 2: Signed off km on like an Instagram story. So ye

462
00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:40,784
Speaker 2: only up for twenty four hours.

463
00:22:40,944 --> 00:22:42,504
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was very in people like, well was

464
00:22:42,504 --> 00:22:44,424
Speaker 1: that even heard? She even write that where is she?

465
00:22:44,464 --> 00:22:46,664
Speaker 1: Because at this stage a lot of people really did

466
00:22:46,664 --> 00:22:48,824
Speaker 1: believe that she was being held hostage, and that was

467
00:22:48,864 --> 00:22:50,984
Speaker 1: a real rumor that was out there. I think also

468
00:22:51,184 --> 00:22:53,504
Speaker 1: why this became such a big crazy thing is that

469
00:22:53,704 --> 00:22:56,104
Speaker 1: people then went and dug up the original photo, which

470
00:22:56,104 --> 00:22:58,624
Speaker 1: had come from a magazine photo shoot, so they could

471
00:22:58,664 --> 00:23:01,384
Speaker 1: see that they had taken this photo of her from

472
00:23:01,384 --> 00:23:04,904
Speaker 1: a past photo shoot and photoshopped the kids around her.

473
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:07,664
Speaker 1: And then she put up that Instagram story and she said,

474
00:23:07,664 --> 00:23:10,824
Speaker 1: like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing.

475
00:23:11,144 --> 00:23:13,704
Speaker 1: I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the

476
00:23:13,744 --> 00:23:17,264
Speaker 1: family photograph we shared yesterday, cause I hope everyone celebrating

477
00:23:17,304 --> 00:23:19,984
Speaker 1: had a very happy Mother's Day. Oh that sucks. And

478
00:23:20,024 --> 00:23:23,184
Speaker 1: things escalated then even more because then photos were released

479
00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:26,424
Speaker 1: by the Sun newspaper of Catherine and William out at

480
00:23:26,424 --> 00:23:28,624
Speaker 1: like a little farm shop station area, and it all

481
00:23:28,664 --> 00:23:31,304
Speaker 1: looked lovely and happy until people started zooming and on

482
00:23:31,344 --> 00:23:33,984
Speaker 1: the photo and saying that it was in Kate Middleton

483
00:23:34,024 --> 00:23:37,184
Speaker 1: and putting photos of her of like this photo against

484
00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:39,824
Speaker 1: other photos and saying like, her hairlines different, her cheekbones

485
00:23:39,824 --> 00:23:42,344
Speaker 1: are different, she's wearing a wig. And so many people

486
00:23:42,424 --> 00:23:45,144
Speaker 1: still to this day believe that the Royal family or

487
00:23:45,144 --> 00:23:48,504
Speaker 1: someone connected with them hired a body double to pretend

488
00:23:48,504 --> 00:23:50,904
Speaker 1: to be Kate Middleton and walk around the farm shops

489
00:23:50,944 --> 00:23:53,864
Speaker 1: with William just sort of, you know, stop the rumors.

490
00:23:53,864 --> 00:23:55,904
Speaker 1: But it only made the rumors even more intense.

491
00:23:56,304 --> 00:23:59,344
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird, but also the same breadth. Everyone

492
00:23:59,384 --> 00:24:01,584
Speaker 2: was like, why are they doing all these publicity things

493
00:24:01,584 --> 00:24:04,264
Speaker 2: and not actually like saying what's happening? And yes, And

494
00:24:04,344 --> 00:24:07,024
Speaker 2: I think that's when, after all of this, she had

495
00:24:07,064 --> 00:24:10,504
Speaker 2: to actually say what was going on? Yeah, absolutely, but

496
00:24:10,624 --> 00:24:12,544
Speaker 2: also her hand was forced at the same time. I

497
00:24:12,544 --> 00:24:14,504
Speaker 2: think her hand really was forced. And also, you know,

498
00:24:14,624 --> 00:24:16,544
Speaker 2: we were also talking about the rumors at the time.

499
00:24:16,744 --> 00:24:18,224
Speaker 2: You have to go back and check the tapes, but

500
00:24:18,304 --> 00:24:19,904
Speaker 2: I don't think we were ever saying that we thought

501
00:24:19,904 --> 00:24:21,824
Speaker 2: it was a body double, but people were questioning, and

502
00:24:21,864 --> 00:24:23,824
Speaker 2: I think the photo really got us thinking, like what

503
00:24:23,904 --> 00:24:27,264
Speaker 2: has happened here, because so strange to really such a

504
00:24:27,344 --> 00:24:32,064
Speaker 2: weirdly photoshopped photo. And then Catherine released a video explaining

505
00:24:32,104 --> 00:24:34,584
Speaker 2: that she had undergone the stomach surgery earlier in the

506
00:24:34,664 --> 00:24:37,704
Speaker 2: year and there was a cancer diagnosis attached to it,

507
00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:40,424
Speaker 2: she had been undergoing treatment with her family and that

508
00:24:40,424 --> 00:24:42,264
Speaker 2: it had been a difficult time that's why she'd been

509
00:24:42,264 --> 00:24:44,664
Speaker 2: out of the public eye, and just kind of gave

510
00:24:44,664 --> 00:24:46,304
Speaker 2: an update on where they were. And then you could

511
00:24:46,304 --> 00:24:49,304
Speaker 2: feel the whole world and everyone who was joking about it.

512
00:24:49,184 --> 00:24:52,264
Speaker 1: Just collectively go, oh my god. And then the conversation

513
00:24:52,464 --> 00:24:54,184
Speaker 1: just shift really instantly.

514
00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:55,824
Speaker 2: And everyone just pretended that we didn't just do all

515
00:24:55,824 --> 00:24:56,144
Speaker 2: of that.

516
00:24:56,384 --> 00:24:59,064
Speaker 1: We were just like, oh, but even celebrities were kind

517
00:24:59,064 --> 00:25:01,424
Speaker 1: of joining, Remember like Blake Lively was posting photos. And

518
00:25:01,424 --> 00:25:03,064
Speaker 1: then she had to put up an apology saying like

519
00:25:03,384 --> 00:25:05,544
Speaker 1: this is obviously pre the whole Blake Lively pilot, and

520
00:25:05,544 --> 00:25:08,184
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not defeating her to what I started there. No,

521
00:25:08,264 --> 00:25:10,544
Speaker 1: But again, people still weren't angry at her at that stage,

522
00:25:10,544 --> 00:25:11,864
Speaker 1: which I guess is a good thing, because she was

523
00:25:11,904 --> 00:25:13,824
Speaker 1: just enjoying in the conversation, like we all do stupid

524
00:25:13,824 --> 00:25:16,024
Speaker 1: things and she had to put up a post and

525
00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:18,144
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I shouldn't have like weighed in on

526
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,984
Speaker 1: the joke. And now Kate has been seen back at

527
00:25:21,024 --> 00:25:24,784
Speaker 1: some more formal like royal events and backworking. But yeah,

528
00:25:24,824 --> 00:25:26,784
Speaker 1: just to think that it was only this year that

529
00:25:26,904 --> 00:25:29,704
Speaker 1: the whole world collectively stopped and thought the princess had

530
00:25:29,744 --> 00:25:33,224
Speaker 1: either been kidnapped, had fled and was hiding out somewhere,

531
00:25:34,024 --> 00:25:36,504
Speaker 1: or had been replaced with a body double who had

532
00:25:36,544 --> 00:25:39,064
Speaker 1: been surgically enhanced to look like her. That's a real

533
00:25:39,144 --> 00:25:41,544
Speaker 1: news story from twenty twenty four. And now we have

534
00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:44,344
Speaker 1: to finish on Emily's personal favorite story of the year,

535
00:25:44,704 --> 00:25:47,384
Speaker 1: my Vendetta, and I just say that I hope the

536
00:25:47,424 --> 00:25:49,984
Speaker 1: first story really puts this in perspective, because you know,

537
00:25:50,064 --> 00:25:52,984
Speaker 1: that story had an actual cancer diagnosis. This is people

538
00:25:53,024 --> 00:25:55,744
Speaker 1: getting really riled up over something they quite shouldn't because

539
00:25:55,744 --> 00:25:57,704
Speaker 1: it's just meant to be a bit funny. We're talking

540
00:25:57,744 --> 00:26:00,504
Speaker 1: about Megan Markle, the other little infamous royal to make

541
00:26:00,544 --> 00:26:04,544
Speaker 1: it into this show, her Brown and a girl Boss Vanscha,

542
00:26:04,704 --> 00:26:07,744
Speaker 1: which at the time of recording has not worked out.

543
00:26:07,744 --> 00:26:10,784
Speaker 2: But hopefully maybe twenty twenty five is a year maybe

544
00:26:10,984 --> 00:26:13,104
Speaker 2: get a little taste of some raspberry jam.

545
00:26:13,664 --> 00:26:16,624
Speaker 1: So coming off the back of her and Prince Harry's

546
00:26:17,224 --> 00:26:19,704
Speaker 1: Netflix deals and Spotify deals and a lot of that

547
00:26:19,784 --> 00:26:22,784
Speaker 1: sort of stuff going sideways. I mean, their Netflix special

548
00:26:22,944 --> 00:26:25,304
Speaker 1: was watched by millions and millions of people. Was a

549
00:26:25,344 --> 00:26:28,344
Speaker 1: huge success. His book was a huge sellout success. It's

550
00:26:28,384 --> 00:26:30,984
Speaker 1: the next lot of projects. The kids show. They tried

551
00:26:30,984 --> 00:26:33,464
Speaker 1: to do the podcast that they kind of just had

552
00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:35,704
Speaker 1: every guest in the world in the first episode. That

553
00:26:35,824 --> 00:26:37,784
Speaker 1: a few more episodes and the nor more podcasts. Ever,

554
00:26:37,864 --> 00:26:39,224
Speaker 1: and they parted ways with Spotify.

555
00:26:39,744 --> 00:26:44,624
Speaker 2: Okay, can I be honest, I really love that podcast archetype. Yeah,

556
00:26:44,624 --> 00:26:45,704
Speaker 2: it was good.

557
00:26:47,104 --> 00:26:49,864
Speaker 1: Maria carry like it was. No. You and I were

558
00:26:49,864 --> 00:26:56,344
Speaker 1: fans of that podcast. Love you megana which, yeah, bring.

559
00:26:56,144 --> 00:26:58,424
Speaker 2: It back, stop with the jam, bring back the podcast.

560
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,424
Speaker 1: Yeah. Half the women who were on that always they

561
00:27:00,424 --> 00:27:02,184
Speaker 1: noted podcast. They said yes to you. Think of the

562
00:27:02,224 --> 00:27:05,864
Speaker 1: guests she could be getting anyway. So she launched her

563
00:27:05,944 --> 00:27:10,824
Speaker 1: lifestyle brand, American Riviera Orchard, which has taking us now now,

564
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:14,344
Speaker 1: which has taken us a year to learn how to

565
00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:15,744
Speaker 1: say and.

566
00:27:15,704 --> 00:27:17,264
Speaker 2: We needn't know how to say it, and you've said

567
00:27:17,264 --> 00:27:17,984
Speaker 2: it so many times.

568
00:27:18,024 --> 00:27:21,184
Speaker 1: We now know that American Rivera Orchard is the area

569
00:27:21,224 --> 00:27:24,784
Speaker 1: of Santa Barbara that she and Harry live in. Name it, well,

570
00:27:24,824 --> 00:27:26,704
Speaker 1: she might have to because she's run into some issues.

571
00:27:27,184 --> 00:27:31,024
Speaker 1: So the US Patent and Trademark Office advised Megan Mark

572
00:27:31,104 --> 00:27:33,464
Speaker 1: on these forms, somehow are made public that she was

573
00:27:33,504 --> 00:27:36,664
Speaker 1: not allowed to trademark the term American Riviera as it

574
00:27:36,704 --> 00:27:39,944
Speaker 1: refers to a geographical location. So you can't trademark a

575
00:27:39,944 --> 00:27:43,304
Speaker 1: geographical location and then block other people from using it. Yeah.

576
00:27:43,504 --> 00:27:45,344
Speaker 1: To that, I say, I do believe she's the only

577
00:27:45,384 --> 00:27:47,184
Speaker 1: person who wants to be using that. No one else

578
00:27:47,304 --> 00:27:48,744
Speaker 1: is going to do it, so please let her have it.

579
00:27:48,824 --> 00:27:51,024
Speaker 2: I was going to say her brand manager should have

580
00:27:51,064 --> 00:27:53,144
Speaker 2: made her aware of that, but then I remember she

581
00:27:53,304 --> 00:27:55,904
Speaker 2: probably made that brand manager redundant.

582
00:27:55,984 --> 00:27:58,584
Speaker 1: How are we getting to that? The other reason that

583
00:27:58,624 --> 00:28:01,704
Speaker 1: the Patent Office won't approve her trademark is they say

584
00:28:01,744 --> 00:28:05,104
Speaker 1: that she has messed up the letter O in American

585
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:08,504
Speaker 1: rivera Orchard. They say the O in the logo is

586
00:28:08,504 --> 00:28:11,464
Speaker 1: and this is a quote so highly stylized that is

587
00:28:11,584 --> 00:28:13,104
Speaker 1: unrecognizable as a letter.

588
00:28:13,584 --> 00:28:16,624
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I just know whoever was writing,

589
00:28:16,744 --> 00:28:19,864
Speaker 2: because like this document got published because it's like public

590
00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:22,704
Speaker 2: because it's a public company. I just know that whoever

591
00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:25,664
Speaker 2: had to write these like notes was just like, fuck, yeah,

592
00:28:25,824 --> 00:28:27,144
Speaker 2: let me get in on that.

593
00:28:27,304 --> 00:28:29,304
Speaker 1: Oh and this thing is that Meghan has been very

594
00:28:29,344 --> 00:28:31,224
Speaker 1: open about the fact from her days on the Tig,

595
00:28:31,704 --> 00:28:35,184
Speaker 1: bring that back, the Tig. She was already a lifestyle

596
00:28:35,224 --> 00:28:39,304
Speaker 1: guru before this, and yeah she could be. That's again,

597
00:28:39,424 --> 00:28:40,344
Speaker 1: Meghan could.

598
00:28:40,224 --> 00:28:42,784
Speaker 2: Have been the next group, bring this, the first group.

599
00:28:43,344 --> 00:28:46,144
Speaker 1: Bring the Tig back. But anyway, she loves cligraphy, so

600
00:28:46,184 --> 00:28:47,584
Speaker 1: you just know that when she was designing it, she

601
00:28:47,624 --> 00:28:49,784
Speaker 1: went to town that o to the point now that it's

602
00:28:49,824 --> 00:28:50,904
Speaker 1: unrecognizable for.

603
00:28:50,944 --> 00:28:52,824
Speaker 2: My company, but you come from my letters.

604
00:28:52,984 --> 00:28:56,504
Speaker 1: You're going to come for my caligraphy. Not today, sir,

605
00:28:56,704 --> 00:28:59,424
Speaker 1: not today. And if rumors are to be believed, she

606
00:28:59,464 --> 00:29:01,264
Speaker 1: doesn't really have anyone the team to help.

607
00:29:01,104 --> 00:29:03,864
Speaker 2: Her because and why is that.

608
00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:06,264
Speaker 1: Reports came out and they are from a tabloid called Closer,

609
00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:07,824
Speaker 1: So you know, we take that with a grain of salt.

610
00:29:08,184 --> 00:29:11,304
Speaker 1: That she had to delay her lifestyle brand launching and

611
00:29:11,384 --> 00:29:14,264
Speaker 1: like going into full business, which was supposed to earlier

612
00:29:14,264 --> 00:29:17,264
Speaker 1: this year, because it had spiraled into disarray. Those are

613
00:29:17,304 --> 00:29:20,584
Speaker 1: their words. And according to this report by Closer, twenty

614
00:29:20,624 --> 00:29:23,824
Speaker 1: members of staff had quit in the lead up to it,

615
00:29:23,864 --> 00:29:26,984
Speaker 1: which they said was unprecedented even for a startup. The

616
00:29:27,024 --> 00:29:29,064
Speaker 1: caveat of that is that it did come out later

617
00:29:29,104 --> 00:29:30,984
Speaker 1: that those start like twenty people didn't quit all on

618
00:29:30,984 --> 00:29:33,584
Speaker 1: one day. It was over like a year long period

619
00:29:33,624 --> 00:29:35,664
Speaker 1: of time. So make of that what you will.

620
00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:38,344
Speaker 2: That's I know, I would have been one of those twenty.

621
00:29:38,384 --> 00:29:41,344
Speaker 2: I've been like, girl, you have me over here channing

622
00:29:41,384 --> 00:29:44,864
Speaker 2: this jam from nights on end and you sell only

623
00:29:44,944 --> 00:29:47,824
Speaker 2: five bottles. Also, where's my money? You're giving them out

624
00:29:47,824 --> 00:29:49,744
Speaker 2: for free to people I don't even know. Well, we'll

625
00:29:49,744 --> 00:29:51,584
Speaker 2: get to the jam because that's Emily's favorite things.

626
00:29:51,624 --> 00:29:53,664
Speaker 1: She can't wait. So as part of the launch of

627
00:29:53,784 --> 00:29:58,904
Speaker 1: American rivera orchard still to be trademarked now American Now,

628
00:29:59,744 --> 00:30:02,304
Speaker 1: Megan Michael said that she was going to release a

629
00:30:02,344 --> 00:30:05,744
Speaker 1: line of jam. Yes, and where as the jam. So

630
00:30:05,984 --> 00:30:08,864
Speaker 1: what happened was she sent out fifth this is and this.

631
00:30:08,784 --> 00:30:12,704
Speaker 3: Is a very eighty four years at the beginning towards

632
00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:15,304
Speaker 3: in the first few months of the year, she sent

633
00:30:15,464 --> 00:30:19,944
Speaker 3: out fifty pots of the American Riviera Orchard Preserve and

634
00:30:20,144 --> 00:30:21,504
Speaker 3: a bunch of two celebrities.

635
00:30:21,504 --> 00:30:23,384
Speaker 2: Of course, how much do you think they could make

636
00:30:23,424 --> 00:30:25,184
Speaker 2: if they sold the plus so much?

637
00:30:25,264 --> 00:30:27,624
Speaker 1: If you put that bad boy in eBay, just put

638
00:30:27,664 --> 00:30:29,184
Speaker 1: it on TikTok and be like, it's like when people

639
00:30:29,224 --> 00:30:30,664
Speaker 1: sell like jars of air, but this would be a

640
00:30:30,744 --> 00:30:31,824
Speaker 1: jar of jam. So we'ld get so much.

641
00:30:31,864 --> 00:30:33,584
Speaker 2: We should see if we pretend we could do it,

642
00:30:33,664 --> 00:30:34,944
Speaker 2: and then see how much money we make.

643
00:30:35,264 --> 00:30:38,624
Speaker 1: So a bunch of celebrities started posting they had received

644
00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:42,504
Speaker 1: the jam from Megan Markle, including Chris Jenner, Tracy Ellis Ross,

645
00:30:42,504 --> 00:30:47,464
Speaker 1: and Mindy kayaling out. So each one said one of fifteen,

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Speaker 1: one of this, one of that, like of like which

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Speaker 1: batch it was. The Kadashian's got number thirteen if you

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Speaker 1: care about that.

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Speaker 2: Wait, the whole family got one jar of jam.

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Speaker 1: I think it went to Chris Oh okay, yes, but

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Speaker 1: the head of the family a spoonful. This is my

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Speaker 1: favorite part is like they said, fifty people receive the jam,

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Speaker 1: but not everyone posted about it. The New York Post

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Speaker 1: has speculated that Oprah Winfrey and de Generous and Serena

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Speaker 1: Williams will all gifted the jam as well, but declined

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Speaker 1: to post.

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Speaker 2: Oh so was part of the agreement was to post

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Speaker 2: the job.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was an agreement anything like that.

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Speaker 1: I think she went to launch it and she thought

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Speaker 1: what a great way to send out It was like

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Speaker 1: we get pr packages when brands are launching things and

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Speaker 1: they send you a little gift. They send you the

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Speaker 1: product and like usually like in a beautiful little box

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Speaker 1: or something like that, and they want you to take

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Speaker 1: a photo and put it on Instagram and say, look

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Speaker 1: at those amazing things that other people go and buy it.

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Speaker 2: So she would die if Mindy Cayling posted that and

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Speaker 2: was like hashtag pr.

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Speaker 1: G, hashtag gifted, gifted. So she posted the jam and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden people were just like, oh, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look very nice. What's wrong with the label? Who

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Speaker 1: else did she give them to? It was very artissian

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Speaker 1: Artissian gem so I mean, I'm sure it would taste nice.

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Speaker 1: We'll never know because it's still not for sale so

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Speaker 1: we can't buy it. And then things took a turn.

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Speaker 2: I think I know what you're about to say, because.

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Speaker 1: The Buckingham Palace Shop official Instagram posted.

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Speaker 2: A photo your dandy dog, you know, King Charles.

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Speaker 1: There, He's like, who's got the Instagram password, let me

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Speaker 1: post this, posted a photo saying that they had their

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Speaker 1: own strawberry preserve for sale and they have been selling

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Speaker 1: it for many years. Everyone should buy that instead. They

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Speaker 1: didn't mention Megan Markle at all, but it was very

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Speaker 1: clear that the jam wars had kicked off.

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Speaker 2: It was like the day after they were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we also have jam and guess what, you can.

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Speaker 1: Buy our one exactly, it's right here. I think they

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Speaker 1: didn't actually say that, but they're like, you can buy

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Speaker 1: it right here. It's readily available. And so then this

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Speaker 1: whole thing started of the Royal jam Wars. It was

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Speaker 1: Megan versu the Royal family, but this time over jam

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Speaker 1: and guess what, we're still kind at the time of recording,

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Speaker 1: we do know she's also making dog biscuits. Now, oh yes,

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Speaker 1: that's true, but at the time of recording American rivera Orchard,

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Speaker 1: it's still not up and running. I hope it is.

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Speaker 1: I hope twenty twenty five is her year, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that that's when we can buy some jam, but

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Speaker 1: not yet.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the spill today.

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Speaker 2: Mamma MIA's hot Pod Summer continues across all of Mama

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Speaker 2: MIA's podcasts. We still have plenty of fresh content for

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Speaker 2: you before we're back to normal programming on January thirteen,

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Speaker 2: but until then, we will be back here in your

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Speaker 2: podcast feed tomorrow with a fresh new episode. Bye bye,