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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Meer podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano.

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Speaker 3: This is Mmma Mer's twice daily news podcast, The Quickie.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen.

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Speaker 3: That's the number of lives taken when two gunmen opened

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Speaker 3: fire at a Jewish community gathering just last Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: while fifteen may be the current number of total lives lost,

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Speaker 3: the number of lives impacted is far greater. These fifteen

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Speaker 3: people were children, friends, parents, neighbors, teachers, members of the

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Speaker 3: Jewish community, and their absence will continue to be felt forever.

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Speaker 3: As we continue to mourn the dead, we also honor

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Speaker 3: and remember them their memory, the spaces they filled in others' lives.

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Speaker 3: We also continue to recognize and pay tribute to the

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Speaker 3: incredible acts of bravery so many carried out those horrific attacks.

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Speaker 3: Some of those heroes still recovering as a result, others

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Speaker 3: never to return home. Today is about them, the loved

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Speaker 3: ones lost, the people who tried to save them, and

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Speaker 3: the incredible strength of a community facing unimaginable trauma. Before

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Speaker 3: we get there, here is Claremorphy with the latest from

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Speaker 3: the Quicki newsroom for Thursday, December eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor, the Youngest victim of the Bondai Beach massacre

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Speaker 1: will be farewell today. A funeral service is due to

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Speaker 1: be held at a memorial hall in Sydney's Eastern suburbs

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Speaker 1: for ten year old Matilda, who was one of fifteen

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Speaker 1: victims killed by two gunmen during Hernuker celebrations on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Matilda named that by her Ukrainian parents as she was

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Speaker 1: their firstborn Australian child and they wanted to name her

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Speaker 1: the most Australian name they could find. Was remembered by

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Speaker 1: her school for being a joy to others, describing how

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Speaker 1: she would choreograph dances to k Pob Demon Hunter's songs

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Speaker 1: the Bondai Pavilion this week to remember her name. One

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Speaker 1: of the alleged Bondai terrorist, twenty four year old Navide Akram,

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Speaker 1: has been charged with fifteen counts of murder, one for

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Speaker 1: every victim of Sunday's attack. Navid was critically injured by

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Speaker 1: baal during a brief court hearing, and the case was

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Speaker 1: adjourned until April. His father, Sajid Akram, a licensed gun owner,

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Speaker 1: died at the scene. Navid is also charged with one

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Speaker 1: with intent to murder, and single counts of discharging a

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Speaker 1: firearm in public, causing a public display of a prohibited

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Speaker 1: building with intent to cause harm. Seventeen people remain in hospital,

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Speaker 1: including one in a critical condition. For others are critical

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Speaker 1: Wednesday after being wounded in the attack. Meanwhile, a Philippine's

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Speaker 1: sajet At Agraham received any form of military training while

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Speaker 1: they were in the country last month. They're investigating the

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Speaker 1: father and son trip between November one and November twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with Australian authorities to determine the purpose of

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Speaker 1: their visit. Philippine authorities dismissing claims the southern region of

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Speaker 1: the country was a hotspot for violent extremism, calling it

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Speaker 1: outdated and misleading. Nick Rhiner the sign of Hollywood director

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Speaker 1: and actor Rob Rhiner has appeared in court accused of

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Speaker 1: murdering his parents. His lawyer declined to enter a plea

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Speaker 1: Nick was arrested on Sunday, about six hours after Rob's

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Speaker 1: body was discovered by daughter Romy Reportedly stabbed to death

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Speaker 1: in their home. Romey went to check on her parents

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Speaker 1: Ozzie tennis player Nick Kurios belief these few male players

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Speaker 1: number one Arena Sebelenka in a Battle of the sex's exhibition.

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Speaker 1: While many considered the December twenty eight meeting between Curios

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Speaker 1: and four time Grand Slam champions Sabolenka and Dubai is

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Speaker 1: reputation of women's tennis. Kirrios says the match will be fun,

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Speaker 1: things that are outside of the box, but said, honestly,

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Speaker 1: return men's serves and that he would defeat Sebulenka without

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Speaker 1: would increase respect between the men's and women's tours. Warner

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Speaker 1: Brothers has rejected a hostile takeover bid from Paramount, saying

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Speaker 1: they have failed to provide adequate financial assurances. The board

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Speaker 1: Elliston family, led by billionaire Oracle co founder Larry Ellison,

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Speaker 1: was not correct and that the Paramount offer was inferior

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Speaker 1: to hold a shareholder vote on the deal sometime next year.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next.

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Speaker 3: Remembering and honoring the victims and heroes of the Bondai

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Speaker 3: Beach terror attack. Sofia and Boris, German, Rabbi Elie Schlanger,

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Speaker 3: Edith Brutman, Matilda Marika Pogani, Peter mar Dan, Elkhiyam, Alexander Kleetman,

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Speaker 3: Tibor Whitson, Reuven Morrison, Rabbi Yakov Levetan. These are the

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Speaker 3: names of twelve of the fifteen victims of the Bondai

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Speaker 3: Beach terror attack. Fifteen lives not lost, but taken. Targeted

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Speaker 3: night of Honaker, the Festival of Light, on December fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: That light was extinguished by the horrific acts of two men. Today,

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Speaker 3: Let's start with hero corple. Boris and Sophia married for

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Speaker 3: thirty four years. The pair, aged in their sixties, were

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Speaker 3: Boris is seen wrestling with one of the gunmen in

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Speaker 3: a second firearm was produced by the shooter. His wife

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Speaker 3: Sophia watched on getting involved, only to fall victim. TiO,

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Speaker 3: the pair married for thirty four years, died in each

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Speaker 3: Reuben can be seen on cameras standing directly opposite one

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Speaker 3: The father and grandfather throwing a brick at one of

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Speaker 2: He went down fighting, protecting the people he loved the most.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to live in a world about him.

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Speaker 3: Then there's Matilda, the ten year old girl full of love, hope,

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Speaker 3: and potential the youngest victim of the attack. Matilda's parents

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Speaker 3: bravely speaking at a vigil this week, her father sharing

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Speaker 4: Name Matilda because she was also Australia to Wrigly Hear

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Speaker 3: Matilda's aunt Lena, sharing her heartbreak to seven News.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've lever moved on.

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Speaker 5: I think we just have with sadness and hold in

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Speaker 3: Here only Bees, in a nod to Matilda's middle name Bee.

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Speaker 3: Her parents have been asking the public to share pictures

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Speaker 3: was one of the first victims, identified a leader for

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Speaker 3: his community. Ellie was a beloved rabbi, practicing in the

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Speaker 3: He's also Rugby Royalty, the grandson of Wallaby Wally, dedicating

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Speaker 3: old Tibor Weitzman has been described by his family as

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Speaker 3: Another of the victims from the Bondai Beach terror attack,

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Speaker 3: Rabbi Yakov Leviton, has been described as a man of

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Speaker 3: Originally from Slovakia, Marika has been remembered by the former

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Speaker 5: that the Slovak woman who was one of the victims

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Speaker 5: among other things, she wrote, life is a struggle and

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Speaker 3: French national Dan elkie Um moved down Under to capture

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Speaker 3: Dan now leaves behind his partner Crystal. He arrived in

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Speaker 3: member of the Rochdale Illitan Football Club. The club remembered

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Speaker 6: Those who were closest to him described him as a

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Speaker 6: His smiling face and respectful nature will be sorely missed

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Speaker 3: Edith Brutman is the final victim we know the name of.

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Speaker 3: She was attending the event alongside Tibboror Whitson and has

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Speaker 3: We cannot let those gunshots that rang out on Sunday

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Speaker 3: was a close friend and colleague of Rabbi Eli Schlanger.

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Speaker 3: He attended his burial guest today and has been reflecting

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Speaker 7: Rabbi Elie that's for the story actually today. You know,

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Speaker 7: for the last close to fifteen years, he's been working

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Speaker 7: very closely with his father in law, Rabbi Ullman, at

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Speaker 7: a community called Kabad of Bandai, was working passionately to

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