1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:19,553 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:19,354 --> 00:00:22,154 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this Spill your daily pop 3 00:00:22,194 --> 00:00:25,154 Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Cassania lu Kitch 4 00:00:25,194 --> 00:00:26,954 Speaker 2: and coming up on the show today, we all have 5 00:00:27,034 --> 00:00:30,034 Speaker 2: been devouring the new season of Stranger Things. There has 6 00:00:30,074 --> 00:00:33,114 Speaker 2: been quite the scandal evolving behind the scenes, and they 7 00:00:33,153 --> 00:00:35,473 Speaker 2: have been racing to cover it up during the press too. 8 00:00:35,513 --> 00:00:37,394 Speaker 2: We're going to get into that because one of the 9 00:00:37,394 --> 00:00:39,673 Speaker 2: biggest stars of the show who's involved in the scandal 10 00:00:39,714 --> 00:00:41,993 Speaker 2: has now given us a little insight into what she 11 00:00:42,114 --> 00:00:45,673 Speaker 2: thinks is happening. Plus, there are some new unsealed emails 12 00:00:45,674 --> 00:00:48,473 Speaker 2: from the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni court case, and 13 00:00:48,553 --> 00:00:51,793 Speaker 2: this email pulls Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman right back 14 00:00:51,833 --> 00:00:53,473 Speaker 2: into the phrase. We're going to talk about that. 15 00:00:53,914 --> 00:00:57,434 Speaker 3: But first, well, the Oscars race is heating up. 16 00:00:57,594 --> 00:01:00,834 Speaker 1: We know that the nominations don't come out until January, 17 00:01:01,314 --> 00:01:05,234 Speaker 1: but we do have some very exciting predictions. So Variety, 18 00:01:05,314 --> 00:01:07,914 Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter, all of the big public have kind of 19 00:01:07,954 --> 00:01:13,074 Speaker 1: put out their list of suspected nominations and there's some 20 00:01:13,154 --> 00:01:15,954 Speaker 1: really good ones in there and a few that might 21 00:01:16,074 --> 00:01:18,114 Speaker 1: actually surprise you. So we'll go through a couple of 22 00:01:18,154 --> 00:01:23,274 Speaker 1: the ones that have gotten the most predictions for nominations 23 00:01:23,714 --> 00:01:26,114 Speaker 1: and then you can kind of gear up and find 24 00:01:26,154 --> 00:01:27,714 Speaker 1: something to watch over Christmas. 25 00:01:27,914 --> 00:01:30,074 Speaker 2: Yes, it's important to note that, like anyone can make 26 00:01:30,114 --> 00:01:32,834 Speaker 2: Oscar predictions, but these are the trade publications. They have 27 00:01:32,914 --> 00:01:36,234 Speaker 2: journalists who their whole like kind of yearly beat is 28 00:01:36,274 --> 00:01:39,234 Speaker 2: to be on these awards shows circuits, so they're not 29 00:01:39,394 --> 00:01:41,874 Speaker 2: just predicting from a critics point of view of what 30 00:01:41,954 --> 00:01:43,754 Speaker 2: they like or from an audience point of view, because 31 00:01:43,794 --> 00:01:45,874 Speaker 2: the only people who can vote for the Oscars are 32 00:01:45,874 --> 00:01:47,914 Speaker 2: the people in the academy, and you can only vote 33 00:01:47,954 --> 00:01:50,754 Speaker 2: your section, so actors the actors, directors for directors, and 34 00:01:50,834 --> 00:01:54,554 Speaker 2: so their whole thing is talking to the people behind 35 00:01:54,594 --> 00:01:56,674 Speaker 2: the scenes who are doing the actual voting, which is 36 00:01:56,674 --> 00:01:59,194 Speaker 2: what I always find so interesting that like, sometimes when 37 00:01:59,234 --> 00:02:01,154 Speaker 2: there are big shocks of the Oscars, it's like it's 38 00:02:01,194 --> 00:02:03,234 Speaker 2: a shock from a fan point of view, But if 39 00:02:03,234 --> 00:02:06,114 Speaker 2: you had read these publications beforehand, and the people in 40 00:02:06,154 --> 00:02:08,674 Speaker 2: the room, they always know who's going to win everything, 41 00:02:08,714 --> 00:02:09,874 Speaker 2: like there's rarely a shock. 42 00:02:10,034 --> 00:02:13,034 Speaker 1: So there are a couple of even predictions for winners 43 00:02:13,114 --> 00:02:16,674 Speaker 1: already but Variety basically they are going to update their 44 00:02:16,714 --> 00:02:19,634 Speaker 1: predictions every Thursday, so they keep it kind of continues 45 00:02:19,754 --> 00:02:23,794 Speaker 1: rolling right up until the awards. So the top five 46 00:02:24,074 --> 00:02:26,754 Speaker 1: leaders in the films, we've got one Battle after another, 47 00:02:26,994 --> 00:02:30,714 Speaker 1: which is the Leonardo DiCaprio film Sinners, which is the 48 00:02:30,714 --> 00:02:35,954 Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan horror film Hamnet, which is the Shakespeare 49 00:02:36,714 --> 00:02:41,794 Speaker 1: hammesk Jessey Buckley, Frankenstein of course, Jakober Lordie, and then 50 00:02:41,954 --> 00:02:45,834 Speaker 1: Wicked for Good which we all know obviously, and Sentimental Value, 51 00:02:46,154 --> 00:02:48,994 Speaker 1: which is with stelling Scar's guard Elf Fannings in it 52 00:02:49,034 --> 00:02:52,674 Speaker 1: as well. So one Battle after another is Variety's pick 53 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:54,634 Speaker 1: for the winner of Best Picture. 54 00:02:55,034 --> 00:02:56,434 Speaker 3: So have you seen this movie yet? 55 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,633 Speaker 2: Yes? And it is incredible, And I mean, look, there's 56 00:02:59,674 --> 00:03:01,354 Speaker 2: a lot of movies on that list. I haven't seen 57 00:03:01,394 --> 00:03:03,633 Speaker 2: Sentimental Value yet, and I haven't seen Hamnet yet, but 58 00:03:03,674 --> 00:03:06,474 Speaker 2: I have the screenings for those in my diary. Rat 59 00:03:06,554 --> 00:03:08,034 Speaker 2: to Go Be is they're going to be the big 60 00:03:08,034 --> 00:03:11,114 Speaker 2: Oscar contenders. It's hard to think of anything pushing one 61 00:03:11,154 --> 00:03:13,634 Speaker 2: Battle after another out of the race now, which is 62 00:03:13,674 --> 00:03:15,834 Speaker 2: kind of annoying because it's gonna it makes for a 63 00:03:15,914 --> 00:03:18,194 Speaker 2: less exciting Oscars run. When you kind of know that 64 00:03:18,234 --> 00:03:23,314 Speaker 2: it's gonna sweep all of the directing, editing, scripting and 65 00:03:23,914 --> 00:03:26,914 Speaker 2: probably take Best Picture. Like it doesn't feel like anything 66 00:03:26,954 --> 00:03:28,913 Speaker 2: else can touch it, which is kind of annoying because 67 00:03:29,074 --> 00:03:31,274 Speaker 2: if it was any other year, Wicked for Good was 68 00:03:31,354 --> 00:03:34,034 Speaker 2: kind of like they would kind of promise that award 69 00:03:34,034 --> 00:03:36,394 Speaker 2: slot last year, Like that was the kind of vibe 70 00:03:36,514 --> 00:03:38,314 Speaker 2: when you hear what people were saying in the room, 71 00:03:38,394 --> 00:03:40,634 Speaker 2: like they were all just waiting for the second movie 72 00:03:40,674 --> 00:03:42,634 Speaker 2: to come out, and then one battle after another has 73 00:03:42,714 --> 00:03:44,274 Speaker 2: kind of come in and knocked all of that out. 74 00:03:44,594 --> 00:03:46,274 Speaker 2: It'll be more interesting to see how it goes and 75 00:03:46,314 --> 00:03:49,674 Speaker 2: all the acting categories, but it looks like Tiana Taylor 76 00:03:49,834 --> 00:03:53,114 Speaker 2: M's edge, Ariana Grande out of the Wicked for Good 77 00:03:53,594 --> 00:03:54,994 Speaker 2: Best Supporting Actress slot. 78 00:03:55,194 --> 00:03:57,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, so look a lot of people there were some 79 00:03:57,234 --> 00:03:59,394 Speaker 1: critics who were saying that Wicked for Good, you know, 80 00:03:59,554 --> 00:04:01,594 Speaker 1: it hasn't got as higher praise is the first one. 81 00:04:01,594 --> 00:04:05,074 Speaker 1: It probably won't get Oscars, but really it actually still 82 00:04:05,114 --> 00:04:06,794 Speaker 1: is in high contention for a lot of those technical 83 00:04:06,834 --> 00:04:11,354 Speaker 1: categories like production design or costume design, and Ariana and 84 00:04:11,474 --> 00:04:15,034 Speaker 1: Cynthia look like they still will get none. 85 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:16,873 Speaker 2: D they'll get nominated. It's whether or not. Especially the 86 00:04:16,914 --> 00:04:19,474 Speaker 2: Lead Actress category is gonna be pretty I'd stacked this year. 87 00:04:19,914 --> 00:04:22,154 Speaker 2: Sinner's is the interesting one for me because I kind 88 00:04:22,194 --> 00:04:23,914 Speaker 2: of assumed that it would take a lot of the 89 00:04:23,914 --> 00:04:26,713 Speaker 2: big technical categories, and I know there's some like Best 90 00:04:26,714 --> 00:04:29,873 Speaker 2: Original Song nominations in there. My biggest thing is like, 91 00:04:29,953 --> 00:04:33,074 Speaker 2: will they give the Will they give it some acting awards, 92 00:04:33,433 --> 00:04:35,314 Speaker 2: because it feels like it should have that, but the 93 00:04:35,393 --> 00:04:40,674 Speaker 2: Academy notoriously doesn't like to reward anything Horror. Frankenzein's a 94 00:04:40,674 --> 00:04:42,833 Speaker 2: little bit different because it's it's kind of based on 95 00:04:42,873 --> 00:04:45,553 Speaker 2: a classic book, and it's del Toro and it's practical 96 00:04:45,553 --> 00:04:47,953 Speaker 2: effects on all these things. Whereas I think Sinners was 97 00:04:47,993 --> 00:04:49,874 Speaker 2: one of the best movies of the year, and if 98 00:04:49,873 --> 00:04:52,433 Speaker 2: it wasn't for the Oscars hating horror, it would be 99 00:04:52,594 --> 00:04:53,594 Speaker 2: up for all the big awards. 100 00:04:53,674 --> 00:04:56,873 Speaker 1: I hate horror so much so I have refused to watch, 101 00:04:56,873 --> 00:04:57,633 Speaker 1: like I didn't even. 102 00:04:57,474 --> 00:05:01,313 Speaker 3: Watch Get Out because I know people were so But the. 103 00:05:01,274 --> 00:05:03,433 Speaker 2: People are Oscars. That's not why they're not. They're what. 104 00:05:03,474 --> 00:05:05,194 Speaker 2: They don't hate these movies because they're scared. I know 105 00:05:05,433 --> 00:05:08,073 Speaker 2: they don't think that they're a vale art form in 106 00:05:08,113 --> 00:05:09,953 Speaker 2: the way that a drama is. But also they don't 107 00:05:09,953 --> 00:05:12,634 Speaker 2: think of a valid art form as comedy either, so 108 00:05:12,714 --> 00:05:15,153 Speaker 2: it's like you can't it's only drama, which is this. 109 00:05:15,393 --> 00:05:17,834 Speaker 1: A sort of way One battle after another is slightly 110 00:05:17,873 --> 00:05:21,234 Speaker 1: surprising because even though it is a drama, it's still 111 00:05:21,234 --> 00:05:24,753 Speaker 1: a black comedy, like there is still comedic value to it, 112 00:05:24,834 --> 00:05:27,473 Speaker 1: and seeing Leo in that role is quite different for 113 00:05:27,594 --> 00:05:31,154 Speaker 1: him to get potentially nominated again for that. But the 114 00:05:31,274 --> 00:05:34,153 Speaker 1: Sinner's category Sinners doing really really well. 115 00:05:34,234 --> 00:05:34,594 Speaker 3: Michael B. 116 00:05:34,753 --> 00:05:37,634 Speaker 1: Jordan was incredible in that movie, as I understand it, 117 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:38,713 Speaker 1: because I didn't say yet. 118 00:05:38,553 --> 00:05:41,753 Speaker 2: Well he plays he plays two Lee characters. Yeah, huge 119 00:05:41,794 --> 00:05:42,113 Speaker 2: for him. 120 00:05:42,313 --> 00:05:42,553 Speaker 3: Yeah. 121 00:05:42,594 --> 00:05:45,754 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting because often as well, the Academy 122 00:05:45,794 --> 00:05:48,034 Speaker 1: doesn't appreciate musicals either. 123 00:05:48,674 --> 00:05:51,713 Speaker 2: Well, they appreciate the correct kind of musical that like 124 00:05:51,794 --> 00:05:54,714 Speaker 2: the old school Broadway and then adapted to a movie. 125 00:05:54,753 --> 00:05:57,034 Speaker 2: They like those. They don't like a new music hall, 126 00:05:57,073 --> 00:05:58,674 Speaker 2: which is it's getting better. 127 00:05:58,633 --> 00:05:59,154 Speaker 3: La La land. 128 00:05:59,234 --> 00:06:01,113 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, but they only like that because they 129 00:06:01,113 --> 00:06:04,394 Speaker 2: like movies about themselves. I love a Hollywood movie. They're 130 00:06:04,393 --> 00:06:06,594 Speaker 2: like a little petulant bunch of kids. I will say, 131 00:06:06,633 --> 00:06:09,194 Speaker 2: like they I've added a lot more diversity to the 132 00:06:09,274 --> 00:06:11,593 Speaker 2: voting categories over the years, so every year it's getting 133 00:06:11,633 --> 00:06:13,914 Speaker 2: a little bit better. So every year we might get 134 00:06:13,953 --> 00:06:16,794 Speaker 2: like a few extra kind of different movies in the 135 00:06:16,794 --> 00:06:19,234 Speaker 2: mix that wouldn't normally be there, but they usually they're 136 00:06:19,234 --> 00:06:20,514 Speaker 2: still pretty straight down the line. 137 00:06:20,393 --> 00:06:22,993 Speaker 1: Of foot they yet Sentimental Value is like very much 138 00:06:23,034 --> 00:06:26,473 Speaker 1: Oscar's Bay. So Sentimental Value is coming out on the 139 00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:31,274 Speaker 1: twenty fifth December in Australia. This is like classic Oscars movie. 140 00:06:31,313 --> 00:06:35,433 Speaker 1: It's a drama. It's stellen Skar's Guard. It's in Norwegian, 141 00:06:35,474 --> 00:06:39,034 Speaker 1: Swedish and English. It's very serious. Quite frankly, it looks 142 00:06:39,034 --> 00:06:40,833 Speaker 1: really boring to me, but apparently it's amazing. 143 00:06:40,953 --> 00:06:42,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I am going to 144 00:06:42,313 --> 00:06:44,873 Speaker 2: a screening scenes or report back, but it is. And 145 00:06:44,914 --> 00:06:47,354 Speaker 2: the fact that it's been dropped in this prime Oscars 146 00:06:47,393 --> 00:06:50,193 Speaker 2: time of year as well, just before the voting and 147 00:06:50,234 --> 00:06:53,633 Speaker 2: conversations really kicks off, it's like completely positioned it as 148 00:06:53,674 --> 00:06:55,674 Speaker 2: an Oscars movie. I mean, el Fanning is probably going 149 00:06:55,714 --> 00:06:57,113 Speaker 2: to get a nomination, so that'd be fair. 150 00:06:57,193 --> 00:06:58,633 Speaker 3: They are predicting her. 151 00:06:58,674 --> 00:07:01,193 Speaker 1: What I found interesting in the Best Actress category, where 152 00:07:01,234 --> 00:07:04,753 Speaker 1: we're seeing Cynthia Rivo is that the majority of the 153 00:07:04,794 --> 00:07:08,834 Speaker 1: predictions are smaller actors we're not talking about. You know, 154 00:07:08,993 --> 00:07:12,874 Speaker 1: these veteran actors normally hold that space. You know, Jesse 155 00:07:12,953 --> 00:07:16,554 Speaker 1: Buckley for Hamnet, Chase Infinity for one Battle after another. 156 00:07:16,834 --> 00:07:20,074 Speaker 1: You know, these are some fairly early actors in their 157 00:07:20,114 --> 00:07:22,594 Speaker 1: careers getting these awards. There is a bit of a 158 00:07:22,634 --> 00:07:25,393 Speaker 1: spig talk about Kate Hudson in Song Sung Blue. 159 00:07:25,554 --> 00:07:26,514 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure. 160 00:07:27,154 --> 00:07:29,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kicking away with critics who have seen it. Again. 161 00:07:29,674 --> 00:07:31,074 Speaker 2: I'm seeing that in two weeks, so I'll let you 162 00:07:31,074 --> 00:07:33,713 Speaker 2: guys know what I think of the oscars in that case. Yeah, 163 00:07:33,714 --> 00:07:36,114 Speaker 2: some people think Kate Hudson. I mean, I haven't seen 164 00:07:36,154 --> 00:07:38,874 Speaker 2: Hamnet yet. Again, it's on the cards soon. But Jesse Buckley, 165 00:07:38,874 --> 00:07:41,154 Speaker 2: I feel like she's been overlooked for a lot of Like, 166 00:07:41,234 --> 00:07:43,834 Speaker 2: you know, she's played some incredible roles over the years, 167 00:07:43,834 --> 00:07:46,593 Speaker 2: and she's such an incredible dramatic actress. And I feel 168 00:07:46,594 --> 00:07:48,833 Speaker 2: like if I look at like the list of people 169 00:07:48,834 --> 00:07:50,234 Speaker 2: on that potential list and I was like, well, she 170 00:07:50,274 --> 00:07:52,674 Speaker 2: should have already had an oscar. So hopefully this is 171 00:07:52,674 --> 00:07:54,034 Speaker 2: her year, but I don't know if she'll be able 172 00:07:54,034 --> 00:07:56,314 Speaker 2: to nudge out any of those like bigger names that 173 00:07:56,393 --> 00:07:57,833 Speaker 2: might have a bigger Oscars campaign. 174 00:07:57,914 --> 00:08:00,554 Speaker 1: But Hamnet's coming out on the fifteenth of jant if 175 00:08:00,554 --> 00:08:02,354 Speaker 1: you want to watch it over the break. The one 176 00:08:02,393 --> 00:08:04,674 Speaker 1: final thing I wanted to talk about before we finish 177 00:08:04,794 --> 00:08:09,394 Speaker 1: up is the song category Best New Song and noticeably 178 00:08:09,514 --> 00:08:12,034 Speaker 1: missing other two songs from a Wicked for God. 179 00:08:12,114 --> 00:08:14,234 Speaker 2: I think that they will get in, though I think 180 00:08:14,274 --> 00:08:17,314 Speaker 2: it's early. Well, it's hard to say, like you kind 181 00:08:17,314 --> 00:08:19,393 Speaker 2: of used to think that if there was a great 182 00:08:19,434 --> 00:08:21,634 Speaker 2: songwriter like these are written by Steven Schwartz, like that 183 00:08:21,674 --> 00:08:24,674 Speaker 2: should be a slam dunk. But then when Andrew Lloyd 184 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:27,354 Speaker 2: Rubber wrote that new song and Taylors have sung for Cats, 185 00:08:27,393 --> 00:08:29,354 Speaker 2: that should have also been a slam dunk for Best 186 00:08:29,393 --> 00:08:32,274 Speaker 2: New Song, and it wasn't nominated because Cats were so 187 00:08:32,794 --> 00:08:35,034 Speaker 2: poorly received. They couldn't They're like, we're not even having 188 00:08:35,034 --> 00:08:37,074 Speaker 2: you guys in the room for this. I think those 189 00:08:37,074 --> 00:08:39,713 Speaker 2: songs will come through, mainly because at the end of 190 00:08:39,714 --> 00:08:42,194 Speaker 2: the day, the Oscars want people to watch. They're a business, 191 00:08:42,194 --> 00:08:44,954 Speaker 2: they're a broadcast, and they'll want Ariana and Cynthia up 192 00:08:44,954 --> 00:08:47,874 Speaker 2: there singing those new songs to really bring the crowds 193 00:08:47,874 --> 00:08:50,114 Speaker 2: in because they can't sing the old songs from Wicked. 194 00:08:50,154 --> 00:08:51,634 Speaker 2: I know they did a melody last year, but that 195 00:08:51,674 --> 00:08:53,394 Speaker 2: was like a bit of a sideshow piece and they 196 00:08:53,394 --> 00:08:55,994 Speaker 2: didn't have the other songs perform. But I think this year, 197 00:08:56,154 --> 00:08:57,194 Speaker 2: I think they'll get nominated. 198 00:08:57,394 --> 00:08:57,714 Speaker 3: Yeah. 199 00:08:57,714 --> 00:09:00,354 Speaker 1: Well, the projective winner is K pop Damen Hunter's Golden 200 00:09:00,434 --> 00:09:01,874 Speaker 1: so I actually do think that will win. 201 00:09:01,954 --> 00:09:03,354 Speaker 3: To be so good, it's so good. 202 00:09:03,394 --> 00:09:04,914 Speaker 2: Oh, and they'll be so good singing of the oscars. 203 00:09:04,914 --> 00:09:12,034 Speaker 2: Oh what a fun times excited? No, okay, so I'm 204 00:09:12,074 --> 00:09:14,194 Speaker 2: assuming most people in the world, like me, spent the 205 00:09:14,354 --> 00:09:17,234 Speaker 2: entire weekend watching the new season of Stranger Things were 206 00:09:17,234 --> 00:09:20,274 Speaker 2: in the final season now they dropped the first four episodes. 207 00:09:20,834 --> 00:09:22,953 Speaker 2: Lots to say that we'll get into at another time. 208 00:09:23,274 --> 00:09:26,674 Speaker 2: But leading up to this premiere and the excitement, there 209 00:09:26,714 --> 00:09:28,474 Speaker 2: was a bit of a dark cloud over the whole thing. 210 00:09:28,874 --> 00:09:31,514 Speaker 2: First of all, it started with a singer called Lily Allen, 211 00:09:31,754 --> 00:09:33,434 Speaker 2: So this is quite a few weeks out from the 212 00:09:33,434 --> 00:09:37,194 Speaker 2: premiere when Lily Allen released her new album, and the 213 00:09:37,194 --> 00:09:39,114 Speaker 2: whole album and all the songs on it were very 214 00:09:39,154 --> 00:09:42,594 Speaker 2: much dedicated to the breakdown of her marriage to David 215 00:09:42,634 --> 00:09:46,354 Speaker 2: Harbor and allegations about like them having an open marriage 216 00:09:46,394 --> 00:09:47,914 Speaker 2: and her not being okay with it, and then him 217 00:09:47,994 --> 00:09:50,674 Speaker 2: cheating on her and breaking the rules and kind of 218 00:09:50,714 --> 00:09:53,034 Speaker 2: how she, like, you know, West End Girl, that whole 219 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:55,314 Speaker 2: kind of vibe around it of how she dealt with that. 220 00:09:55,554 --> 00:09:58,754 Speaker 2: So obviously, David Harbor is one of the stars of 221 00:09:58,794 --> 00:10:02,354 Speaker 2: Stranger Things. He plays Hopper, which is an incredibly beloved character, 222 00:10:02,834 --> 00:10:05,514 Speaker 2: and that show has been so successful for him that 223 00:10:05,554 --> 00:10:07,674 Speaker 2: it propelled him to be a full movie star. He's 224 00:10:07,714 --> 00:10:10,754 Speaker 2: in the Marvel Cinematic Universe now. And people were so 225 00:10:10,914 --> 00:10:13,514 Speaker 2: invested in his marriage to Lily Allen because it came 226 00:10:13,554 --> 00:10:15,754 Speaker 2: across so cute and lovely to us watching at home, 227 00:10:16,274 --> 00:10:17,834 Speaker 2: that there was already a bit of a thing of like, 228 00:10:17,914 --> 00:10:19,354 Speaker 2: how are they going to roll him out on a 229 00:10:19,434 --> 00:10:22,714 Speaker 2: press tour for a show that's very much like kids 230 00:10:22,714 --> 00:10:25,474 Speaker 2: and family and togetherness. You know, there's demons and stuff, 231 00:10:25,474 --> 00:10:27,714 Speaker 2: but usually you know, it's that whole kind of wholesome thing. 232 00:10:28,314 --> 00:10:31,114 Speaker 2: And then a couple of days actually before they started 233 00:10:31,114 --> 00:10:35,034 Speaker 2: their first big press round, these reports started circulating that 234 00:10:35,114 --> 00:10:37,754 Speaker 2: were never confirmed but also never denied, so we don't 235 00:10:37,754 --> 00:10:39,954 Speaker 2: know where they kind of stand now that the lead 236 00:10:40,034 --> 00:10:42,914 Speaker 2: actress from the show, Millie Bobby Brown, who plays the 237 00:10:42,994 --> 00:10:46,914 Speaker 2: lead character Eleven. There were reports stating that during the 238 00:10:46,954 --> 00:10:49,474 Speaker 2: course of the show's been filming for over ten years, 239 00:10:49,954 --> 00:10:53,394 Speaker 2: that she had put in official complaints about David Harbor 240 00:10:53,714 --> 00:10:57,554 Speaker 2: for some sort of harassment. It was never overly detailed. Harassment, 241 00:10:57,714 --> 00:11:01,154 Speaker 2: bullying and emotional bullying was some of the allegations that 242 00:11:01,194 --> 00:11:02,234 Speaker 2: were in these reports. 243 00:11:02,474 --> 00:11:06,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was apparently dealt with internally. So this 244 00:11:06,634 --> 00:11:08,914 Speaker 1: was supposed to have happened last year when they were 245 00:11:09,074 --> 00:11:11,714 Speaker 1: filming this final season, but it only came out recently, 246 00:11:11,834 --> 00:11:14,874 Speaker 1: probably off the back of the David Harber Lily Allen 247 00:11:15,034 --> 00:11:19,354 Speaker 1: split the Sorry the West End Girl. Now this becomes 248 00:11:19,394 --> 00:11:22,594 Speaker 1: a really big problem for Netflix when they're trying to 249 00:11:22,594 --> 00:11:26,314 Speaker 1: do this massive pr push for this final seasons of Netflix. 250 00:11:26,514 --> 00:11:30,194 Speaker 1: Let's not forget that, you know, Stranger Things is one 251 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:33,754 Speaker 1: of their biggest bits of ip. Every single time it 252 00:11:33,834 --> 00:11:38,074 Speaker 1: drops the season, it drives subscriptions to Netflix. And you 253 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:40,754 Speaker 1: know that relationship between Hopper and Eleven is such a 254 00:11:40,794 --> 00:11:44,474 Speaker 1: core part of the whole story. But Millie Bobbi Brown 255 00:11:44,594 --> 00:11:49,234 Speaker 1: did actually respond to this kind of indirectly, so when 256 00:11:49,234 --> 00:11:52,074 Speaker 1: she spoke to deadline. She said, we've been doing that 257 00:11:52,154 --> 00:11:53,994 Speaker 1: for the last ten years. I mean, we have always 258 00:11:54,034 --> 00:11:56,234 Speaker 1: been united in that we love this show and everything 259 00:11:56,274 --> 00:11:58,754 Speaker 1: and we value our friendship more than anything, which is 260 00:11:58,794 --> 00:12:02,914 Speaker 1: an interesting it's it feels like kind of dancing around 261 00:12:02,954 --> 00:12:04,154 Speaker 1: it a little bit. 262 00:12:04,754 --> 00:12:07,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first time. I can only assume that 263 00:12:07,514 --> 00:12:09,594 Speaker 2: a lot of the journalists who were at these events 264 00:12:09,754 --> 00:12:12,674 Speaker 2: didn't were told not to ask about this in the 265 00:12:12,674 --> 00:12:16,154 Speaker 2: red carpet interviews and then in the junkets, because it 266 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:19,194 Speaker 2: hasn't come up across anywhere, and it's usually a question 267 00:12:19,274 --> 00:12:21,114 Speaker 2: if there was a report like this, a journalist would 268 00:12:21,114 --> 00:12:23,114 Speaker 2: ask her to address it, and they didn't do that, 269 00:12:23,154 --> 00:12:24,714 Speaker 2: so it must have been on the no go list. 270 00:12:24,994 --> 00:12:27,554 Speaker 2: And also David Harper, while he walked red carpets and 271 00:12:27,594 --> 00:12:30,274 Speaker 2: he did like a few little smaller interviews here and there, 272 00:12:30,474 --> 00:12:33,114 Speaker 2: he was very much absent from the press tour. So 273 00:12:33,914 --> 00:12:36,314 Speaker 2: she talks about in this when she was asked about it, 274 00:12:36,354 --> 00:12:38,274 Speaker 2: So she never in this interview that's now going a 275 00:12:38,274 --> 00:12:40,234 Speaker 2: little bit viral because it's the first time she's spoken 276 00:12:40,234 --> 00:12:41,713 Speaker 2: about it, and it's kind of put a dampener on 277 00:12:41,754 --> 00:12:44,794 Speaker 2: the whole report that was out there. Millie Bobby Brown. 278 00:12:44,794 --> 00:12:47,034 Speaker 2: When she was asked about working with David, Harper said, 279 00:12:47,274 --> 00:12:49,234 Speaker 2: you know, we play a father and daughter, so naturally 280 00:12:49,234 --> 00:12:51,434 Speaker 2: you have a closer bond than the rest. We've had 281 00:12:51,474 --> 00:12:54,594 Speaker 2: some really intense scenes together, especially in season two, but 282 00:12:54,674 --> 00:12:58,474 Speaker 2: we have a great relationship, and said that working with 283 00:12:58,554 --> 00:13:00,554 Speaker 2: him has been a labor of love and it's only 284 00:13:00,594 --> 00:13:03,354 Speaker 2: helped her to elevate her own craft. So she said, 285 00:13:03,354 --> 00:13:05,234 Speaker 2: if I want to bring my A game every single 286 00:13:05,274 --> 00:13:07,714 Speaker 2: time I'm on the call sheet working with him, because 287 00:13:07,714 --> 00:13:10,194 Speaker 2: I know he's bringing his A game right back, and 288 00:13:10,234 --> 00:13:11,274 Speaker 2: that's all she would say on it. 289 00:13:11,594 --> 00:13:17,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's very very pacy. She's really towing the 290 00:13:17,394 --> 00:13:20,154 Speaker 1: line here. So even one of the creators was asked 291 00:13:20,194 --> 00:13:22,994 Speaker 1: about this. Matt duffof the Duffer Brothers who made Stranger Things. 292 00:13:23,354 --> 00:13:26,154 Speaker 1: He was also asked and he said, obviously you understand 293 00:13:26,154 --> 00:13:28,794 Speaker 1: I can't get into personal onset matters, but I will 294 00:13:28,834 --> 00:13:30,394 Speaker 1: say we've been doing this for ten years with this 295 00:13:30,514 --> 00:13:32,874 Speaker 1: cast and at this point their family, and we deeply 296 00:13:32,914 --> 00:13:35,274 Speaker 1: care about them. So you know, nothing matters more than 297 00:13:35,354 --> 00:13:38,114 Speaker 1: just having a set where everyone feels safe and happy again, 298 00:13:38,434 --> 00:13:42,234 Speaker 1: not outright denying it, not you know, confirming it. But 299 00:13:42,394 --> 00:13:46,634 Speaker 1: really really towing that very very fine pr line. 300 00:13:46,834 --> 00:13:49,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be interested in how this information even lenked 301 00:13:49,434 --> 00:13:51,274 Speaker 2: because it sounds like, I mean, again, we don't know, 302 00:13:51,634 --> 00:13:54,394 Speaker 2: but the fact that they haven't denied or confirmed makes 303 00:13:54,394 --> 00:13:57,274 Speaker 2: me think that potentially there's some truth in that even 304 00:13:57,274 --> 00:13:59,834 Speaker 2: though we don't know, but it feels like something happened 305 00:13:59,874 --> 00:14:02,834 Speaker 2: on set. It looks like it was resolved internally, and 306 00:14:02,874 --> 00:14:06,114 Speaker 2: then someone has leaked it to a few of the 307 00:14:06,394 --> 00:14:08,514 Speaker 2: trade public heads, who are usually the ones who have 308 00:14:08,674 --> 00:14:11,514 Speaker 2: these insider like It wasn't a tabloid that started this, 309 00:14:11,594 --> 00:14:14,754 Speaker 2: it was it started bubbling up through trade publications, which 310 00:14:14,954 --> 00:14:17,754 Speaker 2: means that they've talked to someone on set. And it 311 00:14:17,874 --> 00:14:20,994 Speaker 2: also came like that story dropped just as the press 312 00:14:21,034 --> 00:14:23,234 Speaker 2: tour was starting, kind of like the biggest moment that 313 00:14:23,234 --> 00:14:25,434 Speaker 2: they could have had headlines. It was a story that 314 00:14:25,474 --> 00:14:28,354 Speaker 2: would have gained traction anyway, but it gained a lot 315 00:14:28,394 --> 00:14:30,874 Speaker 2: more traction, I think because all eyes are on how 316 00:14:30,994 --> 00:14:34,714 Speaker 2: David Harbor was going to conduct himself with the whole 317 00:14:34,834 --> 00:14:37,234 Speaker 2: Lily Allen thing over his head. I mean, no one 318 00:14:37,274 --> 00:14:39,674 Speaker 2: ever thought that he wouldn't still have fans in his 319 00:14:39,754 --> 00:14:41,514 Speaker 2: career and all like he's such a big star now 320 00:14:41,554 --> 00:14:44,034 Speaker 2: with his own huge fan base, like it was never 321 00:14:44,074 --> 00:14:46,794 Speaker 2: gonna change that, but it just kind of put like 322 00:14:46,794 --> 00:14:49,274 Speaker 2: a little cloud o is pressed tour. And I also 323 00:14:49,314 --> 00:14:52,154 Speaker 2: thought it was quite interesting how David Harbor and Millie 324 00:14:52,194 --> 00:14:55,234 Speaker 2: Bobby Brown, the first time that they were ever photographed 325 00:14:55,314 --> 00:14:58,794 Speaker 2: or film together after these allegations came out, was them 326 00:14:58,914 --> 00:15:03,394 Speaker 2: on a red carpet hugging, chatting, talking, laughing, And I'm 327 00:15:03,434 --> 00:15:05,674 Speaker 2: sure that wasn't put on, Like I'm sure there was 328 00:15:05,754 --> 00:15:08,994 Speaker 2: truth to it, but it's also very much like, let's 329 00:15:08,994 --> 00:15:10,954 Speaker 2: make sure that we do this right in front of 330 00:15:10,994 --> 00:15:14,154 Speaker 2: the cameras at the biggest premiere as the press two 331 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:16,114 Speaker 2: is starting to really set the tone. 332 00:15:16,194 --> 00:15:19,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know Netflix posted on their social media 333 00:15:19,554 --> 00:15:22,434 Speaker 1: account that was one of the videos that they posted 334 00:15:22,554 --> 00:15:26,234 Speaker 1: during the premiere on November seven, was then laughing and 335 00:15:26,314 --> 00:15:29,314 Speaker 1: joking together, and they want to portray that image. 336 00:15:29,434 --> 00:15:31,874 Speaker 3: I'm guessing here that this isn't confirmed. 337 00:15:31,474 --> 00:15:34,674 Speaker 1: Or anything, because some of the really important things about 338 00:15:34,714 --> 00:15:38,034 Speaker 1: this they really have to protect this. Millie Bobby Brown 339 00:15:38,074 --> 00:15:40,914 Speaker 1: also has a relationship with Netflix on like a production 340 00:15:41,034 --> 00:15:43,954 Speaker 1: side as well, so she has an interest in towing 341 00:15:43,994 --> 00:15:46,314 Speaker 1: the company line as well. I'm not saying that they 342 00:15:46,354 --> 00:15:49,114 Speaker 1: haven't resolved it, but there's there's definitely some questions here. 343 00:15:49,514 --> 00:15:52,914 Speaker 1: So each episode of Strange Things costs between fifty and 344 00:15:52,994 --> 00:15:56,674 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars an episode, according to Forbes. Now compare 345 00:15:56,714 --> 00:15:58,954 Speaker 1: that to Game of Thrones this final season, which is 346 00:15:58,994 --> 00:16:02,234 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars per episode. So like, this thing is 347 00:16:02,554 --> 00:16:07,194 Speaker 1: so expensive, it is in all of their interests to 348 00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:09,434 Speaker 1: make sure that everybody looks happy. 349 00:16:09,834 --> 00:16:12,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and they did that. There was an explanation 350 00:16:12,354 --> 00:16:15,274 Speaker 2: for why David Harbor wasn't doing the big press run 351 00:16:15,274 --> 00:16:17,834 Speaker 2: in the lead to the premiere the way other cast 352 00:16:17,874 --> 00:16:20,034 Speaker 2: members were, and that's because he's working on I believe 353 00:16:20,034 --> 00:16:22,634 Speaker 2: it's a TV series that Courtney Cox is producing called 354 00:16:22,674 --> 00:16:25,354 Speaker 2: Evil Genius, and he's shooting for that, and that's why 355 00:16:25,394 --> 00:16:27,674 Speaker 2: he's not. That was the kind of story of why 356 00:16:27,714 --> 00:16:30,634 Speaker 2: he's not on the press tour. But it's giving Florence 357 00:16:30,754 --> 00:16:33,834 Speaker 2: Pugh can't do don't worry Darling press because she's filming 358 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:36,794 Speaker 2: June too. Like it's almost like, if you wanted to, 359 00:16:36,874 --> 00:16:39,074 Speaker 2: you kind of would like especial the biggest role of 360 00:16:39,114 --> 00:16:42,434 Speaker 2: your career. You scheduling conflicts kept you out of I 361 00:16:42,434 --> 00:16:44,714 Speaker 2: don't I'm just saying, I know, scheduling conflicts happen, and 362 00:16:44,794 --> 00:16:47,434 Speaker 2: maybe there's truth to it, and he was at the premiere, but. 363 00:16:47,994 --> 00:16:48,554 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 364 00:16:48,594 --> 00:16:51,474 Speaker 1: I just think it's way too convenient for that to 365 00:16:51,514 --> 00:16:54,114 Speaker 1: happen again for the biggest ip. 366 00:16:54,474 --> 00:16:56,314 Speaker 2: And I think it's actually a smart move because the 367 00:16:56,354 --> 00:16:58,354 Speaker 2: thing is, like they didn't need David Harbor doing a 368 00:16:58,354 --> 00:17:01,234 Speaker 2: million interviews to get this show off the ground. Like 369 00:17:01,314 --> 00:17:04,994 Speaker 2: this show has such a huge ensemble cast. People love it, 370 00:17:05,074 --> 00:17:07,474 Speaker 2: like it's it's for most people, it's like their comfort show. 371 00:17:07,513 --> 00:17:09,194 Speaker 2: It's a show that it's been on for ten years. 372 00:17:09,234 --> 00:17:11,394 Speaker 2: Like people have grown up with this show. They love 373 00:17:11,434 --> 00:17:13,234 Speaker 2: the young actors. You know, we've watched them from being 374 00:17:13,354 --> 00:17:16,354 Speaker 2: thy little kids now they're like proper little adults running around. 375 00:17:16,634 --> 00:17:19,154 Speaker 2: And you've got all the other like incredible cast members 376 00:17:19,154 --> 00:17:21,114 Speaker 2: that have come through, like mya Hawk, her career has 377 00:17:21,154 --> 00:17:24,513 Speaker 2: blown up from this, people like Ronona Ryder, one of 378 00:17:24,554 --> 00:17:26,874 Speaker 2: the greatest actresses in the world, Like is you know, 379 00:17:26,954 --> 00:17:28,514 Speaker 2: such a huge part of this show. And I think 380 00:17:28,514 --> 00:17:31,314 Speaker 2: there's so much there that it was easy enough to 381 00:17:31,354 --> 00:17:33,034 Speaker 2: kind of take that one little chest piece off the 382 00:17:33,034 --> 00:17:34,434 Speaker 2: board and be like the rest of them will do 383 00:17:34,474 --> 00:17:34,994 Speaker 2: the work. 384 00:17:34,874 --> 00:17:37,074 Speaker 1: So without giving the way to the spoilers. It is 385 00:17:37,114 --> 00:17:40,154 Speaker 1: interesting as well because season four, we know Hopper was 386 00:17:40,634 --> 00:17:43,674 Speaker 1: in Russia in the prison for the majority of the season, 387 00:17:44,034 --> 00:17:47,194 Speaker 1: so he and Eleven didn't really have that much interaction 388 00:17:47,514 --> 00:17:52,714 Speaker 1: during that season, whereas this season he's back from Russia. 389 00:17:52,474 --> 00:17:54,754 Speaker 2: So yeah, they have a lot all their scenes are together, 390 00:17:54,794 --> 00:17:56,034 Speaker 2: so yeah, yes. 391 00:17:56,274 --> 00:17:58,634 Speaker 1: There would have been a lot more contact between the 392 00:17:58,634 --> 00:17:59,594 Speaker 1: two of them on set. 393 00:17:59,794 --> 00:18:00,513 Speaker 3: Yeah, this season. 394 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:02,674 Speaker 2: And again I've got to think that, like, you know, 395 00:18:02,714 --> 00:18:04,554 Speaker 2: a young actress like that wouldn't be I mean, I 396 00:18:04,594 --> 00:18:06,313 Speaker 2: don't know, I know stuff happens behind the scenes, but 397 00:18:06,474 --> 00:18:08,794 Speaker 2: you've got to think, like, you know, she would be 398 00:18:08,954 --> 00:18:11,074 Speaker 2: she wouldn't be walking those carpets and smiling with him 399 00:18:11,074 --> 00:18:13,394 Speaker 2: and stuff if things weren't okay. But it's just interesting 400 00:18:13,434 --> 00:18:15,714 Speaker 2: to see how, like before a show comes out at 401 00:18:15,714 --> 00:18:17,594 Speaker 2: there is a scandal, whether it's true or not, how 402 00:18:17,634 --> 00:18:20,594 Speaker 2: they kind of maneuver it all to get it across 403 00:18:20,594 --> 00:18:22,194 Speaker 2: the line. And I do think now the shows out, 404 00:18:22,194 --> 00:18:24,513 Speaker 2: people have forgotten about it, Like people are so set 405 00:18:24,554 --> 00:18:27,954 Speaker 2: on especially because we've got more episodes to come and 406 00:18:28,154 --> 00:18:30,513 Speaker 2: that you know, there's so many cliffhangers. I think people 407 00:18:30,514 --> 00:18:32,513 Speaker 2: have forgotten and they're just thinking about how the show's 408 00:18:32,514 --> 00:18:32,874 Speaker 2: going to end. 409 00:18:32,994 --> 00:18:34,634 Speaker 1: I think people kind of forgot a little bit of 410 00:18:34,754 --> 00:18:36,874 Speaker 1: how good this show is. Like it's very easy to 411 00:18:36,954 --> 00:18:38,314 Speaker 1: kind of let it sink to the back of your 412 00:18:38,314 --> 00:18:40,954 Speaker 1: mind after a couple of years, and you we'll not 413 00:18:41,034 --> 00:18:42,914 Speaker 1: forget about it, but you kind of you move on 414 00:18:42,954 --> 00:18:45,474 Speaker 1: for a little bit, and then it reignites and you go, oh, 415 00:18:45,514 --> 00:18:47,273 Speaker 1: this is exciting, and then you say it and you go, 416 00:18:47,354 --> 00:18:47,954 Speaker 1: oh my god. 417 00:18:47,754 --> 00:18:50,394 Speaker 3: This is so yeah and good. This is so freaking good. 418 00:18:50,834 --> 00:18:53,313 Speaker 1: And that's very evident by all the social stuff that 419 00:18:53,314 --> 00:18:53,874 Speaker 1: we've say in. 420 00:18:53,994 --> 00:18:54,754 Speaker 3: Over the weekend. 421 00:18:54,994 --> 00:18:57,354 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we do have to wait till Christmas Day for 422 00:18:57,354 --> 00:18:58,634 Speaker 1: the next episode to come out. 423 00:18:58,674 --> 00:19:01,074 Speaker 2: But no, it's a great way to spend Christmas Day. 424 00:19:01,514 --> 00:19:02,874 Speaker 3: It's a little unholy. 425 00:19:03,074 --> 00:19:11,034 Speaker 2: No, no, that's exactly what you want of Christmas Day. Okay, 426 00:19:11,074 --> 00:19:13,674 Speaker 2: So we have a new update in the Justin Baldoni 427 00:19:13,794 --> 00:19:16,874 Speaker 2: and Blake Lively legal battle. Now we know that this 428 00:19:16,914 --> 00:19:18,793 Speaker 2: feels like has been going on forever. It has been 429 00:19:18,834 --> 00:19:21,834 Speaker 2: nearly a year, but still, I mean, legal things they take. 430 00:19:21,874 --> 00:19:23,514 Speaker 2: It's not like on TV where they just go straight 431 00:19:23,514 --> 00:19:25,234 Speaker 2: from the arrest to the courtroom. And then the end 432 00:19:25,234 --> 00:19:27,714 Speaker 2: credits role like they do take a long time, and 433 00:19:27,874 --> 00:19:29,954 Speaker 2: we're actually not even getting to the first like official 434 00:19:29,994 --> 00:19:32,474 Speaker 2: court hearing until March or the next year. So in 435 00:19:32,514 --> 00:19:35,434 Speaker 2: the meantime, there's a lot of information still coming out 436 00:19:35,794 --> 00:19:38,754 Speaker 2: and this week what is making headlines is a newly 437 00:19:38,874 --> 00:19:41,194 Speaker 2: unsealed email. So this is an email and a court 438 00:19:41,194 --> 00:19:43,154 Speaker 2: document in the case which has now been made public 439 00:19:43,194 --> 00:19:45,313 Speaker 2: so people can see what's inside it. And it's an 440 00:19:45,314 --> 00:19:49,793 Speaker 2: email sent from Wayfair's Studios co founder Jamie Heath's team 441 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:54,033 Speaker 2: to Justin Baldoni's publicist. That the email was sent in 442 00:19:54,074 --> 00:19:56,994 Speaker 2: July twenty twenty four. So obviously Jamie Heath has been 443 00:19:57,034 --> 00:19:59,674 Speaker 2: a huge name in this whole situation as the producer 444 00:19:59,714 --> 00:20:02,834 Speaker 2: of the film Wayfair's Studios is the movie that produced 445 00:20:02,874 --> 00:20:04,754 Speaker 2: It Ends with Us is at the center of this 446 00:20:05,234 --> 00:20:09,914 Speaker 2: legal situation, and this particular email is quite interesting because 447 00:20:10,434 --> 00:20:13,474 Speaker 2: it really gives a lot more detail into an event 448 00:20:13,634 --> 00:20:16,034 Speaker 2: that was alleged to have take place when this whole 449 00:20:16,074 --> 00:20:19,874 Speaker 2: situation blew up. So in this document, this email that's 450 00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:22,994 Speaker 2: now being made public, it alleges that Justin Baldoni went 451 00:20:23,074 --> 00:20:26,114 Speaker 2: to the house of Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively so 452 00:20:26,274 --> 00:20:29,154 Speaker 2: their New York City penthouse while filming was happening for 453 00:20:29,234 --> 00:20:31,994 Speaker 2: it ends with us, And in the email, it alleges 454 00:20:32,034 --> 00:20:36,314 Speaker 2: that Ryan Reynolds unloaded on Justin Baldoni, that's the word 455 00:20:36,354 --> 00:20:39,154 Speaker 2: they've used there, about how horrible it was that he 456 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:42,874 Speaker 2: would ask about Blake Lively's weight. And then the email 457 00:20:42,914 --> 00:20:45,794 Speaker 2: goes on to claim that Ryan Reynolds said that Justin 458 00:20:45,834 --> 00:20:49,354 Speaker 2: Baldoni was fat shaming Blake, and Baldoni said that he 459 00:20:49,434 --> 00:20:53,154 Speaker 2: was completely embarrassed and apologized and even shed some tears. 460 00:20:53,474 --> 00:20:56,073 Speaker 2: So the thing about Blake Lively's weight is something that 461 00:20:56,114 --> 00:20:59,353 Speaker 2: came up very early in this court case. And so 462 00:20:59,434 --> 00:21:03,154 Speaker 2: Blake Lively, just before filming, had given birth to her son, Odin, 463 00:21:03,714 --> 00:21:06,234 Speaker 2: and apparently there was some stuff said behind the scenes 464 00:21:06,274 --> 00:21:09,033 Speaker 2: that she was feeling bit unsure about her weight. But 465 00:21:09,074 --> 00:21:12,194 Speaker 2: then there was an allegation that Justin Baldoni had asked 466 00:21:12,194 --> 00:21:15,554 Speaker 2: her how much she weighs. The allegation from Blake Lively's 467 00:21:15,594 --> 00:21:18,114 Speaker 2: team is again it's all allegations this point because hasn't 468 00:21:18,114 --> 00:21:21,234 Speaker 2: gone to court yet. The allegation was that she felt 469 00:21:21,234 --> 00:21:23,114 Speaker 2: that was fat shaming of her for how her body 470 00:21:23,154 --> 00:21:26,354 Speaker 2: looked Justin Baldoni's team said that he had a bad 471 00:21:26,434 --> 00:21:28,874 Speaker 2: back and suffers from a lot of physical issues, and 472 00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:30,794 Speaker 2: he was asking her because he was then going to 473 00:21:30,834 --> 00:21:32,154 Speaker 2: go ask because he had to lift her in a 474 00:21:32,194 --> 00:21:34,194 Speaker 2: scene for the movie, and he was going to go 475 00:21:34,194 --> 00:21:37,914 Speaker 2: then ask a professional how to using her weight, how 476 00:21:37,954 --> 00:21:40,154 Speaker 2: best to lift her without hurting his back. So again 477 00:21:40,194 --> 00:21:41,914 Speaker 2: we have two separate sides of the story here. 478 00:21:42,074 --> 00:21:45,554 Speaker 1: And it is also said that Justin Baldoni contacted Blake's trainer, 479 00:21:45,874 --> 00:21:50,154 Speaker 1: so behind not contacting Blake directly, but contacting Blake's trainer 480 00:21:50,554 --> 00:21:53,634 Speaker 1: and asking him how much she weighed, which is another 481 00:21:53,714 --> 00:21:56,674 Speaker 1: thing that Blake's team sort of putting in their filing 482 00:21:56,754 --> 00:21:59,234 Speaker 1: talking about how you know, he embarrassed her in front 483 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:01,793 Speaker 1: of in front of the whole team and also you know, 484 00:22:01,874 --> 00:22:04,554 Speaker 1: fat shamed her. So this apparently happened, yes, in the 485 00:22:04,794 --> 00:22:08,474 Speaker 1: New York City apartment. Apparently was over far five hours, Yeah, 486 00:22:08,914 --> 00:22:12,234 Speaker 1: a huge, huge amount of time. But the reason this 487 00:22:12,274 --> 00:22:14,634 Speaker 1: is making so many headlines is because there are two 488 00:22:14,754 --> 00:22:17,674 Speaker 1: A listers that apparently were right in the room with them. 489 00:22:17,754 --> 00:22:20,754 Speaker 1: Now we know about Taylor Swift allegedly being there because 490 00:22:20,794 --> 00:22:24,434 Speaker 1: of the whole Khalisi Dragon thing. And then we also 491 00:22:24,474 --> 00:22:27,033 Speaker 1: have Hugh Jackman, who has been dragged into it. 492 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:29,994 Speaker 2: Yes, so a portion of the email is talking about 493 00:22:29,994 --> 00:22:34,034 Speaker 2: when this particular fat shaming conversation allegedly happened between Ryan 494 00:22:34,074 --> 00:22:36,994 Speaker 2: Reynolds and Justin Baldoni, and Justin Baldoni says that Ryan 495 00:22:37,034 --> 00:22:40,114 Speaker 2: Reynolds was yelling at him and reducing him to tears. 496 00:22:40,394 --> 00:22:43,634 Speaker 2: He also alleges that Hugh Jackman and Taylor Swift were 497 00:22:43,634 --> 00:22:45,114 Speaker 2: not only in the apartment, but that were in the 498 00:22:45,194 --> 00:22:47,634 Speaker 2: room at the time a lot of this was happening. 499 00:22:47,994 --> 00:22:50,754 Speaker 2: There's nothing to suggest that they got directly involved in 500 00:22:50,794 --> 00:22:53,553 Speaker 2: the conversation or they said anything, but they were in 501 00:22:53,594 --> 00:22:56,114 Speaker 2: the room at the time, which has pulled them right 502 00:22:56,154 --> 00:22:58,354 Speaker 2: back into being central figures in this legal battle. 503 00:22:58,474 --> 00:23:01,594 Speaker 1: Can we just put our imaginations on for a second 504 00:23:01,674 --> 00:23:07,074 Speaker 1: and imagine being in a room with Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, 505 00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:12,634 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, Hugh Jackman, and Justin Maldoney and for five hours, 506 00:23:14,434 --> 00:23:17,994 Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds is yelling at Justin Maldony and Taylor Swift, 507 00:23:18,034 --> 00:23:20,074 Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackman is just sitting there watching. 508 00:23:20,474 --> 00:23:22,474 Speaker 3: I'm so I really wish I could be in that room. 509 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:26,034 Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by this well, I think from bits 510 00:23:26,034 --> 00:23:28,434 Speaker 2: and pieces that have come out about this particular meaning, 511 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:31,394 Speaker 2: there's also allegations that, like they had other conversations, so 512 00:23:31,474 --> 00:23:33,954 Speaker 2: sometimes it wasn't as heated, and sometimes they were talking 513 00:23:33,954 --> 00:23:36,954 Speaker 2: more about the movie and Justin was apologizing. It's hard 514 00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:39,154 Speaker 2: to know because, like the full story hasn't come out yet, 515 00:23:39,354 --> 00:23:41,314 Speaker 2: but what it does is kind of pull us right 516 00:23:41,354 --> 00:23:45,154 Speaker 2: back into that time where Taylor Swift was never really 517 00:23:45,194 --> 00:23:47,194 Speaker 2: like she was never like, you know, forward facing on 518 00:23:47,274 --> 00:23:49,234 Speaker 2: the movie It Ends with Us. She was never like 519 00:23:49,274 --> 00:23:52,273 Speaker 2: walking red carpets, promoting it, interviews anything like that. But 520 00:23:52,354 --> 00:23:55,114 Speaker 2: she and Blake Clive, Lee and Ryan Reynolds were photographed 521 00:23:55,114 --> 00:23:58,194 Speaker 2: together a lot during that time, and they would spent 522 00:23:58,234 --> 00:24:00,354 Speaker 2: a lot of time together, so it is within the 523 00:24:00,434 --> 00:24:02,754 Speaker 2: role of possibility that she would have been at the penthouse. 524 00:24:02,914 --> 00:24:05,194 Speaker 2: And also Hugh Jackman became very wrapped up and It 525 00:24:05,314 --> 00:24:08,513 Speaker 2: Ends with Us filming because Ian Ryan Reynolds had released 526 00:24:08,514 --> 00:24:11,273 Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine just a few weeks before It Ends 527 00:24:11,314 --> 00:24:13,434 Speaker 2: with Us came out, so Blake c Lively was on 528 00:24:13,474 --> 00:24:15,594 Speaker 2: the press tour for them, and then Hugh Jackman was 529 00:24:15,634 --> 00:24:18,594 Speaker 2: at the premierees. So it Ends with Us. Blake Lively 530 00:24:18,634 --> 00:24:21,074 Speaker 2: and Hugh Jackman did like join interviews together and photo 531 00:24:21,074 --> 00:24:23,954 Speaker 2: shoots together to like really promote both of their films. 532 00:24:24,274 --> 00:24:28,994 Speaker 2: It became almost like a second like Oppenheimer Barbenheimer kind 533 00:24:28,994 --> 00:24:32,354 Speaker 2: of situation where they were trying to do this double 534 00:24:32,354 --> 00:24:34,554 Speaker 2: bill like see Dead Pull and Wouverine and then see 535 00:24:34,554 --> 00:24:36,313 Speaker 2: It Ends with Us. And at the time, it was 536 00:24:36,314 --> 00:24:38,554 Speaker 2: all like a fun time because you have this beloved 537 00:24:38,634 --> 00:24:41,234 Speaker 2: movie star couple of Blake C. Lively and Ryan Reynolds 538 00:24:41,274 --> 00:24:43,513 Speaker 2: having these dual movies coming out and doing all this 539 00:24:43,634 --> 00:24:46,994 Speaker 2: cute stuff. And it wasn't until the whole Blake Lively 540 00:24:47,114 --> 00:24:49,714 Speaker 2: situation blow up so publicly and the world really turned 541 00:24:49,714 --> 00:24:51,674 Speaker 2: against her, which is what her legal suit is about, 542 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,714 Speaker 2: is about the smear campaign. It wasn't until that happened 543 00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,834 Speaker 2: that the two movies, like you felt there was an 544 00:24:56,834 --> 00:24:59,194 Speaker 2: idea they had. The studios tried to distance them a 545 00:24:59,234 --> 00:25:00,914 Speaker 2: little bit, but they were already wrapped up together. 546 00:25:01,074 --> 00:25:03,154 Speaker 1: Well, we all know that Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman 547 00:25:03,234 --> 00:25:06,033 Speaker 1: have a very close relationship. They're constantly poking fun at 548 00:25:06,074 --> 00:25:09,674 Speaker 1: each other, even beyond the Deadpool Wolverine universe thing. 549 00:25:09,714 --> 00:25:11,354 Speaker 3: They they're always poking fun on each other. 550 00:25:11,954 --> 00:25:14,674 Speaker 1: Donnie seem also attempted to subpoena Taylor Swift back in 551 00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:17,354 Speaker 1: May of this year, and then she kind of was 552 00:25:17,394 --> 00:25:19,754 Speaker 1: able to step back a little bit, but then she's 553 00:25:19,794 --> 00:25:20,594 Speaker 1: been thrown. 554 00:25:20,514 --> 00:25:21,394 Speaker 3: Back into this. 555 00:25:22,194 --> 00:25:25,154 Speaker 1: It is also very interesting the way that they phrase 556 00:25:25,474 --> 00:25:27,553 Speaker 1: in the email. The way that they phrase it is 557 00:25:27,554 --> 00:25:31,794 Speaker 1: that in Lively's complaint they also refer to Justin as 558 00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:35,354 Speaker 1: her boss when she is introduced to Taylor. So this 559 00:25:35,354 --> 00:25:37,714 Speaker 1: is apparently the first time Taylor, first and only time 560 00:25:37,794 --> 00:25:43,914 Speaker 1: Taylor meets Justin Baldoni. So by referring to Justin Maldonie 561 00:25:43,954 --> 00:25:47,514 Speaker 1: as her boss, that phrasing I think is very very 562 00:25:47,514 --> 00:25:53,954 Speaker 1: deliberate in positioning Lively as positioning Lively in a bit 563 00:25:53,954 --> 00:25:56,154 Speaker 1: of a power and balance, you know, because that's what 564 00:25:56,194 --> 00:25:58,033 Speaker 1: we're trying to talk about here, is, you know, the 565 00:25:58,034 --> 00:26:01,674 Speaker 1: sexual harassment and the harassment claims. So I think it's 566 00:26:01,754 --> 00:26:04,914 Speaker 1: very calculated the way that they've done that. It is 567 00:26:04,994 --> 00:26:08,114 Speaker 1: interesting that we're starting to get drin fed more of 568 00:26:08,154 --> 00:26:11,434 Speaker 1: these unsealed emails, and it does look like we're. 569 00:26:11,274 --> 00:26:13,754 Speaker 3: Going to keep getting more and more up until the 570 00:26:13,874 --> 00:26:15,034 Speaker 3: end of March. Yeah. 571 00:26:15,114 --> 00:26:17,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an interesting development, because I guess it's 572 00:26:17,714 --> 00:26:20,674 Speaker 2: what the This is an email from the wayfar a team, 573 00:26:20,674 --> 00:26:23,394 Speaker 2: and it's kind of the information that they're really putting 574 00:26:23,394 --> 00:26:25,674 Speaker 2: out there and the kind of defense that they're putting up. 575 00:26:25,754 --> 00:26:27,674 Speaker 2: I should say the stage that Taylor Stif's team. The 576 00:26:27,714 --> 00:26:30,074 Speaker 2: only thing they've really said on this is an official 577 00:26:30,074 --> 00:26:32,954 Speaker 2: statement from her reps to deny that she was involved 578 00:26:33,274 --> 00:26:35,394 Speaker 2: in the filmmaking process and in any way in the 579 00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,834 Speaker 2: movie making process, because there were allegations at one stage 580 00:26:37,834 --> 00:26:40,234 Speaker 2: that she was involved in casting and she was involved 581 00:26:40,234 --> 00:26:42,634 Speaker 2: in rewriting the script. Well, she did have a song licensed, 582 00:26:43,114 --> 00:26:44,674 Speaker 2: and that's what they say in their statement. They say, 583 00:26:44,674 --> 00:26:47,074 Speaker 2: apart from the fact that her song My Tears Ricochet 584 00:26:47,554 --> 00:26:50,074 Speaker 2: was involved in the movie, she wasn't involved behind the 585 00:26:50,114 --> 00:26:53,114 Speaker 2: scenes at all. So they've really tried to distance her. 586 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,394 Speaker 2: And even in that statement, like her team says, she 587 00:26:55,514 --> 00:26:57,314 Speaker 2: was on the biggest tour in the world at the time, 588 00:26:57,394 --> 00:27:00,274 Speaker 2: like she wasn't popping down to set in and giving notes. 589 00:27:00,594 --> 00:27:03,754 Speaker 2: I think what this email does and kind of reading 590 00:27:03,794 --> 00:27:05,793 Speaker 2: between the lines of it is it does kind of 591 00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:10,834 Speaker 2: pull that question over Taylor Swift's friendship with Blake Lively 592 00:27:11,434 --> 00:27:15,434 Speaker 2: back into the Spotlight in quite an extreme way because 593 00:27:15,674 --> 00:27:17,994 Speaker 2: with the release of her album Life of a Showgirl, 594 00:27:18,154 --> 00:27:20,634 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift like everyone thinks that the song Canceled is 595 00:27:20,714 --> 00:27:23,594 Speaker 2: very much about Blake Lively and there's a lot of 596 00:27:23,674 --> 00:27:25,674 Speaker 2: lyrics in there that really pertain to her, but in 597 00:27:25,714 --> 00:27:28,754 Speaker 2: a supportive way that I like my friends canceled. I 598 00:27:28,874 --> 00:27:30,634 Speaker 2: like them when they're in this world, and I'm supportive 599 00:27:30,674 --> 00:27:34,074 Speaker 2: of them. She's also wearing some of Blake Lively's jewelry 600 00:27:34,194 --> 00:27:36,834 Speaker 2: in the video clips that were in the film that 601 00:27:36,914 --> 00:27:40,434 Speaker 2: came out to support the album, which is a huge thing, 602 00:27:40,714 --> 00:27:42,394 Speaker 2: and also a lot of people saying like, oh, that 603 00:27:42,434 --> 00:27:44,834 Speaker 2: could have been filmed before, Like it just definitely wasn't 604 00:27:45,234 --> 00:27:47,634 Speaker 2: with the timeline, and also like this is the most 605 00:27:47,634 --> 00:27:49,594 Speaker 2: powerful kind of artist in the world, Like she's not 606 00:27:49,594 --> 00:27:51,273 Speaker 2: going to be like, oh, well, we already shot the footage, 607 00:27:51,274 --> 00:27:52,754 Speaker 2: We'll just have to use that, Like they would have 608 00:27:52,794 --> 00:27:55,074 Speaker 2: taken that out if they needed to. So it was 609 00:27:55,114 --> 00:27:58,793 Speaker 2: this very kind of indirect sign of support that Taylor 610 00:27:58,834 --> 00:28:01,914 Speaker 2: Swift put out to Blake Lively at a time when 611 00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:04,794 Speaker 2: people thought that their relationship had really soured, they thought 612 00:28:04,794 --> 00:28:07,313 Speaker 2: it was over because this isn't in the court docor mean, 613 00:28:07,434 --> 00:28:09,634 Speaker 2: so I don't want the lines to get muddied. But 614 00:28:09,674 --> 00:28:12,793 Speaker 2: there were sort of reports or like allegations behind the 615 00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:16,474 Speaker 2: scenes that Taylor Swift had been tricked into coming over 616 00:28:16,514 --> 00:28:20,513 Speaker 2: to blake class and Ryan Reynolds's apartment. That she was 617 00:28:20,554 --> 00:28:22,194 Speaker 2: just going over to Ham with her friends and she 618 00:28:22,194 --> 00:28:25,154 Speaker 2: didn't realize that she would be pulled into this big 619 00:28:25,234 --> 00:28:28,033 Speaker 2: workplace drama. That's just a rumor at this stage, but 620 00:28:28,194 --> 00:28:29,554 Speaker 2: it is the story that's out there. 621 00:28:29,994 --> 00:28:31,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also quite interesting. 622 00:28:32,114 --> 00:28:35,594 Speaker 1: Baldoni is not He's not saying that it never happened 623 00:28:35,594 --> 00:28:38,994 Speaker 1: that he was asking about Blake's weight, So that's not. 624 00:28:39,274 --> 00:28:40,994 Speaker 3: The point of contention here. 625 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:45,074 Speaker 1: It's more about the fact that he's saying that he 626 00:28:45,194 --> 00:28:48,474 Speaker 1: was berated and like yelled at. He does say, you know, 627 00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:52,434 Speaker 1: he thought this was a reasonable request to ask the 628 00:28:52,474 --> 00:28:56,354 Speaker 1: trainer because of his back issues. I mean maybe privately, 629 00:28:57,114 --> 00:28:59,034 Speaker 1: like talking to Blake, I don't know, maybe could have 630 00:28:59,034 --> 00:29:02,714 Speaker 1: been handled better. But that's I guess not what's in question. Yeah, 631 00:29:03,034 --> 00:29:06,594 Speaker 1: it's not the actual fat shaming. It's the fat shaming rather. 632 00:29:06,394 --> 00:29:09,954 Speaker 2: Than well, it's the what they're trying to proven court 633 00:29:10,114 --> 00:29:12,834 Speaker 2: is that the spear campaign took place like that's the allegation, 634 00:29:13,194 --> 00:29:16,594 Speaker 2: and also the allegations around things like sexual harassment on set. 635 00:29:16,914 --> 00:29:21,034 Speaker 2: And obviously Justin Baldoni's lawsuit has ended because his team 636 00:29:21,074 --> 00:29:23,954 Speaker 2: didn't file documents in time and there's this whole kind 637 00:29:23,994 --> 00:29:26,754 Speaker 2: of question over that, but that has ended, so now 638 00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:29,914 Speaker 2: it's just Blake's lawsuit against him, and obviously he and 639 00:29:29,954 --> 00:29:33,034 Speaker 2: his company are putting forward all of all this evidence 640 00:29:33,034 --> 00:29:35,114 Speaker 2: in their defense, so I think a lot more will 641 00:29:35,114 --> 00:29:38,074 Speaker 2: come out. But yeah, I think Taylorsift's name is such 642 00:29:38,074 --> 00:29:40,914 Speaker 2: a lightning rod first stories and press, and so anytime 643 00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,834 Speaker 2: her name gets brought into this case, it does blow 644 00:29:43,914 --> 00:29:46,674 Speaker 2: up again, which makes me think that that is why 645 00:29:47,034 --> 00:29:49,314 Speaker 2: she and Blake Colvely have just not been pictured together 646 00:29:49,514 --> 00:29:52,514 Speaker 2: since this blew up. It's especially interesting at this moment 647 00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:55,594 Speaker 2: in time because in this moment in time, Taylorsift isn't touring, 648 00:29:55,674 --> 00:29:58,914 Speaker 2: she's not doing album promotion. She's planning a wetting, she's 649 00:29:58,954 --> 00:30:00,954 Speaker 2: planning her wedding, and which means she's out and about 650 00:30:00,954 --> 00:30:02,834 Speaker 2: New York. She's going to dinners. The girl loves to 651 00:30:02,874 --> 00:30:04,714 Speaker 2: go out, she loves the dinner, she loves a little 652 00:30:04,714 --> 00:30:06,434 Speaker 2: walk in front of the peraps and her cute outfits, 653 00:30:06,714 --> 00:30:08,834 Speaker 2: who were what a fun time. She's been having a 654 00:30:08,874 --> 00:30:11,194 Speaker 2: lot of dinners with her close girlfriends, like one on 655 00:30:11,194 --> 00:30:13,514 Speaker 2: one dinners. Yeah, and a lot of people like, is this. 656 00:30:13,514 --> 00:30:16,954 Speaker 1: The it's it's the bridal party. 657 00:30:17,114 --> 00:30:20,114 Speaker 2: Well, they think it's the the bridesmaid asking dinner. Yes, 658 00:30:20,274 --> 00:30:23,154 Speaker 2: like taking each one of her, Yeah, each one of her. 659 00:30:23,194 --> 00:30:25,194 Speaker 2: It looks like Taylor Sif is taking each one of 660 00:30:25,234 --> 00:30:28,794 Speaker 2: her famous friends out to dinner separately, so like Gigi 661 00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:32,154 Speaker 2: had did Ashley Avignon and all those gangs Selena Gomez 662 00:30:32,474 --> 00:30:34,914 Speaker 2: to ask them to be her bride'smaids, and everyone's like, 663 00:30:34,954 --> 00:30:39,794 Speaker 2: where is the Blake Lively bridesmaid proposal dinner? And maybe 664 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:42,354 Speaker 2: that's happening. I still actually do think they're friends. Like 665 00:30:42,394 --> 00:30:44,794 Speaker 2: the whole canceled thing really did tip me back over 666 00:30:44,834 --> 00:30:47,274 Speaker 2: the edge. But they're not going to have a public 667 00:30:47,274 --> 00:30:49,674 Speaker 2: dinner at this stage. I'm really that would just throw 668 00:30:49,794 --> 00:30:52,874 Speaker 2: the whole court case way more into the spotlight than 669 00:30:52,914 --> 00:30:53,994 Speaker 2: either of them onn I think. 670 00:30:53,954 --> 00:30:56,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I'm also really interested to see how Hugh 671 00:30:56,714 --> 00:31:00,354 Speaker 1: Jackman deal Jackman in the background, Like, I mean, let's 672 00:31:00,394 --> 00:31:03,114 Speaker 1: also remember that you know he's not having the best 673 00:31:03,114 --> 00:31:05,874 Speaker 1: pr moment after his divorced from Debrali Finis. You know, 674 00:31:06,274 --> 00:31:08,754 Speaker 1: he's obviously to be something foster. Now some people have 675 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:09,514 Speaker 1: feelings about that. 676 00:31:09,714 --> 00:31:11,674 Speaker 2: Well, he posted her on the grid for the first 677 00:31:11,714 --> 00:31:13,234 Speaker 2: time and to day and there's a lot of nice 678 00:31:13,234 --> 00:31:14,514 Speaker 2: comments in there, but there's a lot of comments. 679 00:31:14,514 --> 00:31:18,074 Speaker 1: There's a lot of negativity. Yeah, and I saw a comment. Again, 680 00:31:18,154 --> 00:31:20,154 Speaker 1: this is not like this hasn't been put anyway. I 681 00:31:20,234 --> 00:31:23,154 Speaker 1: just saw comments on a video about this particular story. 682 00:31:23,394 --> 00:31:25,794 Speaker 1: One of the comments was like, I just want Debralee 683 00:31:25,874 --> 00:31:28,474 Speaker 1: Finis to on zipper lips and give us the tea. 684 00:31:29,114 --> 00:31:30,714 Speaker 2: I want that as well, but I don't know if 685 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,834 Speaker 2: she will. I really think she's off just living a 686 00:31:32,874 --> 00:31:35,954 Speaker 2: fabulous life and she's not really getting in the mud 687 00:31:35,954 --> 00:31:36,594 Speaker 2: with all this. 688 00:31:36,594 --> 00:31:39,394 Speaker 1: This was like right when they were sort of starting 689 00:31:39,394 --> 00:31:42,394 Speaker 1: to separate. Yes, this is really huge. 690 00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:45,474 Speaker 2: Jackman being pictured out and about like at Chief Schemes 691 00:31:45,514 --> 00:31:48,394 Speaker 2: with Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift. There's 692 00:31:48,434 --> 00:31:50,634 Speaker 2: photos of Taylor Swift and Hugh jack Men having drinks 693 00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:52,634 Speaker 2: because like they're all out with their friends. That was 694 00:31:52,674 --> 00:31:55,594 Speaker 2: his like I'm single hard launch error. So he had 695 00:31:55,674 --> 00:31:57,314 Speaker 2: enough to deal with at the time, is what we'll 696 00:31:57,314 --> 00:31:58,874 Speaker 2: say there. He probably didn't think now that that was 697 00:31:58,914 --> 00:32:00,674 Speaker 2: all gonna be brought back into the spot because of 698 00:32:00,674 --> 00:32:03,514 Speaker 2: a legal case. But yes, we'll have more answers in 699 00:32:03,594 --> 00:32:05,674 Speaker 2: March of next year when this actually goes to court. 700 00:32:05,794 --> 00:32:08,154 Speaker 2: And again, at this point in time, it's all allegations, 701 00:32:08,194 --> 00:32:10,714 Speaker 2: it's all just all the evidence is being put forward. 702 00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:13,314 Speaker 2: Both sides are bringing their side of the story and 703 00:32:13,354 --> 00:32:16,514 Speaker 2: their evidence and their emails. 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