1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,294 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,174 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,974 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:22,094 --> 00:00:22,254 Speaker 2: Hi. 5 00:00:22,414 --> 00:00:23,414 Speaker 3: I'm Claire Murphy. 6 00:00:23,454 --> 00:00:25,934 Speaker 1: This is a summer series of Mumma MIA's twice daily 7 00:00:25,974 --> 00:00:29,094 Speaker 1: news podcast, The Quickie. While many of us are still 8 00:00:29,094 --> 00:00:32,174 Speaker 1: relaxing or celebrating the holiday period, for those who are 9 00:00:32,254 --> 00:00:34,814 Speaker 1: under the black cloud of domestic violence, this time of 10 00:00:34,894 --> 00:00:38,534 Speaker 1: year can be particularly dangerous. So today for those who 11 00:00:38,614 --> 00:00:41,014 Speaker 1: might be on the cusp of leaving their partner, we 12 00:00:41,094 --> 00:00:44,094 Speaker 1: have some incredible advice to share from women who've escaped 13 00:00:44,134 --> 00:00:47,374 Speaker 1: the clutches of a violent and abusive relationship, a list 14 00:00:47,374 --> 00:00:50,534 Speaker 1: of practical things that you need to remember before you leave, 15 00:00:50,734 --> 00:00:56,214 Speaker 1: and what is often the most dangerous moment of your life. 16 00:01:03,014 --> 00:01:06,134 Speaker 1: When the holiday period arrives, bozzies look forward to many things, 17 00:01:06,294 --> 00:01:09,334 Speaker 1: spending time with loved ones, seeing children experience Santa in 18 00:01:09,334 --> 00:01:11,854 Speaker 1: the off on the shelf, taking some time off work, 19 00:01:11,854 --> 00:01:14,254 Speaker 1: and catching up with friends. It's a time of giving 20 00:01:14,294 --> 00:01:18,974 Speaker 1: and loving, but not for everyone again. Australia saw dozens 21 00:01:19,014 --> 00:01:22,334 Speaker 1: of women killed in domestic violence incidents in twenty twenty four, 22 00:01:22,654 --> 00:01:26,174 Speaker 1: with countless others still struggling with a violent partner, someone 23 00:01:26,254 --> 00:01:29,094 Speaker 1: who might be listening to this right now. For them, 24 00:01:29,374 --> 00:01:32,694 Speaker 1: Christmas is a time of heightened stress, with public holidays 25 00:01:32,734 --> 00:01:35,534 Speaker 1: including Christmas Day in New Year's Day, linked to an 26 00:01:35,654 --> 00:01:39,614 Speaker 1: increase in domestic violence incidents. Research suggests that this is 27 00:01:39,694 --> 00:01:42,734 Speaker 1: due to increased contact between the victim, survivor and their 28 00:01:42,734 --> 00:01:47,054 Speaker 1: perpetrator on those days off. Our intake of alcohol also increases, 29 00:01:47,294 --> 00:01:49,974 Speaker 1: and for some the added layer of financial strain can 30 00:01:50,094 --> 00:01:53,774 Speaker 1: lead to conflict. And it's not just physical abuse either. 31 00:01:54,094 --> 00:01:59,014 Speaker 1: It includes emotional and verbal abuse, financial abuse, stalking, harassment, 32 00:01:59,374 --> 00:02:02,414 Speaker 1: damage to the home and property, and being isolated away 33 00:02:02,414 --> 00:02:05,854 Speaker 1: from family and friends. So for you who might be 34 00:02:05,894 --> 00:02:08,574 Speaker 1: hearing this and recognizing that this is a part of 35 00:02:08,614 --> 00:02:12,094 Speaker 1: your story, we've gathered some insights from women who've left 36 00:02:12,094 --> 00:02:16,014 Speaker 1: their violent and controlling partners, the things they did that helped, 37 00:02:16,254 --> 00:02:19,254 Speaker 1: the things they planned that saved them, and the people. 38 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:22,094 Speaker 3: They reached out to for help. The group we spoke to. 39 00:02:22,254 --> 00:02:26,094 Speaker 1: Passed on invaluable information, starting with things to know about, 40 00:02:26,094 --> 00:02:29,214 Speaker 1: what to do about where you currently live, and how 41 00:02:29,254 --> 00:02:32,334 Speaker 1: to transition to somewhere else. Of course, all of these 42 00:02:32,334 --> 00:02:35,534 Speaker 1: suggestions have been voiced by our mumameer colleagues to maintain 43 00:02:35,574 --> 00:02:37,774 Speaker 1: the safety and security of those who contributed. 44 00:02:38,094 --> 00:02:39,934 Speaker 4: One of the hardest things to come to terms with 45 00:02:40,094 --> 00:02:41,574 Speaker 4: is the fact that you have to be ready to 46 00:02:41,614 --> 00:02:45,214 Speaker 4: walk away from absolutely everything to start taking a power back, 47 00:02:45,334 --> 00:02:47,254 Speaker 4: Even if you have contributed to the house, etc. 48 00:02:47,694 --> 00:02:48,174 Speaker 5: Just leave it. 49 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:51,534 Speaker 4: Leave no avenue for continued access to you. These days, 50 00:02:51,534 --> 00:02:53,734 Speaker 4: with the mortality rate of women, if you're able to 51 00:02:53,774 --> 00:02:57,774 Speaker 4: leave an abusive relationship successfully, you're already halfway there. It's 52 00:02:57,814 --> 00:03:00,454 Speaker 4: by no means easy, but by God, it's worth it. 53 00:03:01,334 --> 00:03:03,534 Speaker 1: There was also a lot of feedback about how to 54 00:03:03,614 --> 00:03:06,254 Speaker 1: help kids through this time and keep them safe, and 55 00:03:06,334 --> 00:03:08,694 Speaker 1: to make sure that you don't forget that you can 56 00:03:08,734 --> 00:03:11,974 Speaker 1: be found through them. To delete all unknown apps on 57 00:03:12,014 --> 00:03:13,894 Speaker 1: your phone and kids' devices. 58 00:03:14,294 --> 00:03:16,574 Speaker 6: If there's still an AVO, it needs to cover both 59 00:03:16,614 --> 00:03:18,734 Speaker 6: you and your kids, or he'll still be able to 60 00:03:18,734 --> 00:03:20,054 Speaker 6: get them from school or daycare. 61 00:03:20,294 --> 00:03:22,374 Speaker 7: Keep an important bag and a happy bag at a 62 00:03:22,374 --> 00:03:25,014 Speaker 7: friend's house or in the cavity of your car. Important 63 00:03:25,014 --> 00:03:28,054 Speaker 7: documents such as birth certificates, etc. And things that your 64 00:03:28,094 --> 00:03:30,214 Speaker 7: child will find comfort in, such as a teddy and 65 00:03:30,254 --> 00:03:31,094 Speaker 7: a change of clothes. 66 00:03:31,374 --> 00:03:33,534 Speaker 5: Make sure your children's schools know about your situation. 67 00:03:36,374 --> 00:03:38,854 Speaker 1: We also received a lot of messages from people who 68 00:03:38,934 --> 00:03:41,534 Speaker 1: had advice on how to pack your things ready to 69 00:03:41,574 --> 00:03:44,374 Speaker 1: go without it being obvious that you're preparing to leave. 70 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:46,854 Speaker 8: If you're planning and leaving but won't be able to 71 00:03:46,854 --> 00:03:48,814 Speaker 8: take a lot with you or have further access to 72 00:03:48,854 --> 00:03:52,534 Speaker 8: the house, slowly remove precious items discreetly and gradually over time, 73 00:03:52,614 --> 00:03:55,214 Speaker 8: and store with family or friends. Don't leave anything in 74 00:03:55,214 --> 00:03:57,894 Speaker 8: the house it's valuable on a day to day basis. Sadly, 75 00:03:58,014 --> 00:03:59,454 Speaker 8: I lost some precious things doing this. 76 00:04:00,014 --> 00:04:02,014 Speaker 9: If you have access to someone you can trust, start 77 00:04:02,054 --> 00:04:05,934 Speaker 9: moving some basics like clothes, books and toys, towels and blankets, 78 00:04:05,974 --> 00:04:08,934 Speaker 9: odds and ends that he won't notice straightway out of 79 00:04:08,934 --> 00:04:11,294 Speaker 9: the house in prep for the final shift. 80 00:04:11,534 --> 00:04:13,934 Speaker 1: Obviously, a lot of the conversation was about how to 81 00:04:13,974 --> 00:04:17,654 Speaker 1: stay safe when you're in that incredibly dangerous process of leaving, 82 00:04:17,974 --> 00:04:20,374 Speaker 1: as this is a time when women are more likely 83 00:04:20,454 --> 00:04:21,454 Speaker 1: to be heard or killed. 84 00:04:21,774 --> 00:04:25,534 Speaker 4: Make sure they aren't next of kim with drs, hospitals, schools, childcare, 85 00:04:25,574 --> 00:04:26,814 Speaker 4: sports clubs, et cetera. 86 00:04:27,094 --> 00:04:29,334 Speaker 10: And when I got a new phone and need rocon, 87 00:04:29,454 --> 00:04:31,854 Speaker 10: I didn't put a voicemail message on it so that 88 00:04:32,054 --> 00:04:34,534 Speaker 10: if he happened to get my numbers, he don't have 89 00:04:34,694 --> 00:04:37,214 Speaker 10: absolute proof that they are actually mine. 90 00:04:37,294 --> 00:04:39,934 Speaker 7: Keep a running diary of everything you do and everything 91 00:04:39,974 --> 00:04:42,614 Speaker 7: he does, including the dates. These will come in handy 92 00:04:42,694 --> 00:04:45,134 Speaker 7: for centally, child support and family court later on. 93 00:04:45,534 --> 00:04:48,734 Speaker 11: No exits from everywhere and wear CCTVs footage may be 94 00:04:49,094 --> 00:04:52,014 Speaker 11: Have an escape plan for everywhere. Create a code word 95 00:04:52,134 --> 00:04:54,494 Speaker 11: with someone that you trust, or a few code words 96 00:04:54,494 --> 00:04:55,854 Speaker 11: that mean different levels of risk. 97 00:04:56,294 --> 00:04:58,854 Speaker 4: Change passwords on ETag so they can't see which roads 98 00:04:58,854 --> 00:05:01,854 Speaker 4: you're driving on, turn off snap maps, en sure they're 99 00:05:01,854 --> 00:05:05,014 Speaker 4: removed from your consent list to access centerlink email copy 100 00:05:05,014 --> 00:05:05,774 Speaker 4: of everything. 101 00:05:05,494 --> 00:05:06,534 Speaker 3: To a new secure email. 102 00:05:06,934 --> 00:05:09,374 Speaker 4: Make sure your neighbors know about the situation and what 103 00:05:09,694 --> 00:05:11,014 Speaker 4: make and model his car is. 104 00:05:11,574 --> 00:05:14,734 Speaker 12: Redo your will and power of attorney and your medical authority. 105 00:05:14,854 --> 00:05:17,334 Speaker 1: Get a portable lock box sixty dollars or so from 106 00:05:17,334 --> 00:05:19,414 Speaker 1: Bunning's pop, important docs, cash, etc. 107 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:20,974 Speaker 3: And that it's fireproof. 108 00:05:21,094 --> 00:05:23,094 Speaker 4: Make sure you grab your car's spare key. 109 00:05:26,534 --> 00:05:28,854 Speaker 1: Mumma Mia is a supporter of the charity Rise Up, 110 00:05:28,894 --> 00:05:32,454 Speaker 1: which provides life changing practical support for families affected by 111 00:05:32,494 --> 00:05:37,494 Speaker 1: domestic and family violence. Nicole Edwards is the founder and CEO, Nicole, 112 00:05:37,614 --> 00:05:39,494 Speaker 1: what advice do you have for women thinking of leaving 113 00:05:39,534 --> 00:05:41,254 Speaker 1: a violent partner, Claire. 114 00:05:41,454 --> 00:05:47,054 Speaker 5: As we know, leaving a domestic family violence relationship is 115 00:05:47,214 --> 00:05:50,974 Speaker 5: often a very dangerous decision and it requires some really 116 00:05:51,054 --> 00:05:55,454 Speaker 5: careful planning, and part of that is to reach out 117 00:05:55,614 --> 00:05:59,174 Speaker 5: to a specialist service. For example, one eight hundred Respectors 118 00:05:59,174 --> 00:06:02,494 Speaker 5: Australia's national helpline. It's available twenty four hours a day, 119 00:06:02,494 --> 00:06:05,454 Speaker 5: seven days a week, and they have specialist workers that 120 00:06:05,534 --> 00:06:08,094 Speaker 5: can guide you around things like you know, making a 121 00:06:08,174 --> 00:06:10,774 Speaker 5: safety plan and this can support you at a really 122 00:06:10,854 --> 00:06:14,374 Speaker 5: scary time. So that is probably my biggest advice. And 123 00:06:14,414 --> 00:06:16,654 Speaker 5: the first thing to do is to link in with 124 00:06:16,734 --> 00:06:17,694 Speaker 5: a special service. 125 00:06:18,414 --> 00:06:23,574 Speaker 1: And what about somebody who knows someone who's potentially leaving, Like, 126 00:06:23,614 --> 00:06:25,694 Speaker 1: what if you've got a sister or an auntie or 127 00:06:25,734 --> 00:06:29,254 Speaker 1: a daughter who might be considering doing this. What's the 128 00:06:29,294 --> 00:06:31,694 Speaker 1: best thing you can do with someone supporting someone who 129 00:06:31,774 --> 00:06:33,254 Speaker 1: is making this decision. 130 00:06:34,054 --> 00:06:37,414 Speaker 5: Claire, This can be such a terrifying time for loved ones, 131 00:06:37,534 --> 00:06:40,574 Speaker 5: you know, the friends and the family, and the biggest 132 00:06:40,614 --> 00:06:43,574 Speaker 5: thing that we can ever do is start with believing 133 00:06:43,694 --> 00:06:49,254 Speaker 5: and supporting them without judgment and importantly refraining from overlaying 134 00:06:49,294 --> 00:06:53,134 Speaker 5: our own lens across it right, respecting their choices and 135 00:06:53,174 --> 00:06:57,894 Speaker 5: their timing. Women know best how to keep themselves safe, 136 00:06:58,054 --> 00:07:00,374 Speaker 5: and what we have to remember is that they are 137 00:07:00,414 --> 00:07:04,374 Speaker 5: the ones living this nightmare. They navigating that will of 138 00:07:04,574 --> 00:07:08,974 Speaker 5: power and control daily and by us pressuring them to 139 00:07:09,054 --> 00:07:13,054 Speaker 5: leave could really backfire. It could make them feel unsupported, 140 00:07:13,334 --> 00:07:16,254 Speaker 5: or it can actually end up with dire consequences. So 141 00:07:16,774 --> 00:07:20,934 Speaker 5: my advice would be to keep walking beside them, don't 142 00:07:20,934 --> 00:07:24,214 Speaker 5: give up on them, and please don't lose hope, and 143 00:07:24,334 --> 00:07:27,614 Speaker 5: also look after yourself too. Supporting a loved one in 144 00:07:27,694 --> 00:07:31,614 Speaker 5: crisis can be really challenging, so seek help for yourself, 145 00:07:31,654 --> 00:07:33,614 Speaker 5: you know, call one eight hundred. Respect. 146 00:07:34,414 --> 00:07:35,014 Speaker 3: What we know. 147 00:07:35,134 --> 00:07:38,814 Speaker 5: About domestic and family violence is that we all have 148 00:07:38,894 --> 00:07:41,054 Speaker 5: a role to play, and it takes a village to 149 00:07:41,174 --> 00:07:46,054 Speaker 5: end violence against women, and you are a very important 150 00:07:46,054 --> 00:07:47,454 Speaker 5: part of that village. 151 00:07:48,054 --> 00:07:51,854 Speaker 1: We are often told that the day that somebody leaves 152 00:07:51,894 --> 00:07:55,214 Speaker 1: a domestic violence or family violence situation is potentially the 153 00:07:55,214 --> 00:07:59,454 Speaker 1: most dangerous moment of their entire lives, considering the dangers 154 00:07:59,454 --> 00:08:02,014 Speaker 1: that they have found themselves in in the lead up 155 00:08:02,054 --> 00:08:04,934 Speaker 1: to that, it can be quite a terrifying and daunting 156 00:08:05,174 --> 00:08:09,054 Speaker 1: thing to actually open that door and walk away. Yeah, 157 00:08:09,134 --> 00:08:12,134 Speaker 1: what's suggestions do you have for somebody for the day 158 00:08:12,214 --> 00:08:14,254 Speaker 1: they actually decide to go? 159 00:08:14,854 --> 00:08:19,214 Speaker 5: So my suggestion, Claire, would be first and foremost prioritize 160 00:08:19,374 --> 00:08:23,494 Speaker 5: physical safety. Choose a safe time to leave. Try to 161 00:08:23,574 --> 00:08:27,174 Speaker 5: leave when the person isn't home or during a calm period, 162 00:08:28,054 --> 00:08:31,974 Speaker 5: remembering that wheel of power and control. Have a code 163 00:08:32,014 --> 00:08:35,174 Speaker 5: word or a signal. Even if you've arranged support, set 164 00:08:35,214 --> 00:08:38,054 Speaker 5: up a code word, or in case you might need 165 00:08:38,094 --> 00:08:42,534 Speaker 5: some immediate help, you could consider law enforcement to even 166 00:08:42,654 --> 00:08:45,614 Speaker 5: help out. You know, police might be able to step 167 00:08:45,654 --> 00:08:48,054 Speaker 5: in and help you, provide an escort to collect your 168 00:08:48,054 --> 00:08:52,494 Speaker 5: belongings later if needed, But on that day, stay calm 169 00:08:52,774 --> 00:08:56,854 Speaker 5: and confident, trust your judgment. You're in control of the 170 00:08:56,854 --> 00:09:00,454 Speaker 5: decision making in this space. Take each step really carefully, 171 00:09:00,574 --> 00:09:04,054 Speaker 5: even if you feel anxious, You know your instincts can 172 00:09:04,134 --> 00:09:07,774 Speaker 5: guide you through a complex situation. What women tend to 173 00:09:07,974 --> 00:09:12,294 Speaker 5: not do enough of is to our guts. Don't feel guilty. 174 00:09:12,574 --> 00:09:16,214 Speaker 5: Remind yourself that leaving is a step towards safety and healing. 175 00:09:16,894 --> 00:09:19,894 Speaker 1: Obviously, the next step, then is how to set up 176 00:09:19,934 --> 00:09:23,414 Speaker 1: a life after. Because a lot of women find themselves 177 00:09:23,454 --> 00:09:25,694 Speaker 1: in a situation where they no longer have access to 178 00:09:25,814 --> 00:09:29,934 Speaker 1: finances or even furniture or a place to stay or 179 00:09:30,094 --> 00:09:33,334 Speaker 1: support network. What suggestions have you got for women who 180 00:09:33,374 --> 00:09:35,454 Speaker 1: are on the other side of that day of leaving. 181 00:09:35,974 --> 00:09:39,574 Speaker 5: When we talk about it takes a village to end 182 00:09:39,654 --> 00:09:43,854 Speaker 5: violence against women and children, Claire, this is exactly the 183 00:09:43,934 --> 00:09:46,214 Speaker 5: moment where it's time for us all to lean in 184 00:09:46,214 --> 00:09:51,334 Speaker 5: into that really transformative recovery piece of a woman's journey. 185 00:09:51,894 --> 00:09:54,654 Speaker 5: You know, if you're going through that, reach out to 186 00:09:54,734 --> 00:09:58,974 Speaker 5: your support networks, link in with local services. There are 187 00:09:59,214 --> 00:10:05,134 Speaker 5: incredible support groups available. Organizations like Rise Up. Our mission 188 00:10:05,494 --> 00:10:10,014 Speaker 5: is to create comfortable, safe spaces for people as start 189 00:10:10,014 --> 00:10:15,054 Speaker 5: their lives, and you consider professional counseling, keeping connected to 190 00:10:15,294 --> 00:10:20,174 Speaker 5: support services you know, and peer groups. We're in this together, 191 00:10:20,374 --> 00:10:23,174 Speaker 5: and together we can, you know, create a new path 192 00:10:23,214 --> 00:10:23,854 Speaker 5: for yourself. 193 00:10:24,334 --> 00:10:27,654 Speaker 1: I can understand the hesitation of reaching out to services 194 00:10:27,734 --> 00:10:30,854 Speaker 1: like this, because it takes you to admit to yourself 195 00:10:31,174 --> 00:10:33,694 Speaker 1: that you need it, or maybe that you need it 196 00:10:33,734 --> 00:10:36,574 Speaker 1: more than the next person, or that it feels a 197 00:10:36,574 --> 00:10:40,054 Speaker 1: little bit like I don't need someone's charity. Like there's 198 00:10:40,054 --> 00:10:42,334 Speaker 1: so many barriers to reaching out. How do we get 199 00:10:42,374 --> 00:10:45,374 Speaker 1: past that idea that this maybe isn't for us, when 200 00:10:45,454 --> 00:10:46,014 Speaker 1: really it is. 201 00:10:46,934 --> 00:10:49,254 Speaker 5: Yeah, Claire, and I think the most important thing that 202 00:10:49,294 --> 00:10:52,054 Speaker 5: we can all remember, and it is all around changing 203 00:10:52,054 --> 00:10:55,054 Speaker 5: the narrative as a broader society and a community. But 204 00:10:55,214 --> 00:10:58,974 Speaker 5: what we have to remember in times of darkness, there's 205 00:10:59,014 --> 00:11:03,374 Speaker 5: so much light. The shame doesn't sit squarely on the 206 00:11:03,374 --> 00:11:07,454 Speaker 5: woman's shoulders, you know, the victim survivor's shoulders. And this space, 207 00:11:07,494 --> 00:11:12,094 Speaker 5: we know that this space is fraud with embarrassment and shame. 208 00:11:12,334 --> 00:11:15,254 Speaker 5: And you know, it's been such a long and tedious 209 00:11:15,374 --> 00:11:18,574 Speaker 5: road to get to that new beginning if we like, 210 00:11:18,814 --> 00:11:21,814 Speaker 5: and you know, I think you deserve to feel safe, 211 00:11:21,854 --> 00:11:24,534 Speaker 5: and you deserve to be in the space of recovery 212 00:11:24,614 --> 00:11:27,454 Speaker 5: and healing and to have you know, start again. So 213 00:11:27,934 --> 00:11:30,054 Speaker 5: you know, the community is here, and we're seeing that 214 00:11:30,334 --> 00:11:33,614 Speaker 5: across Australia there, you know, in what is Australia's most 215 00:11:33,614 --> 00:11:36,694 Speaker 5: deadliest year for women, we are seeing a community at 216 00:11:36,774 --> 00:11:40,934 Speaker 5: large who are challenging this really anti social behavior. You 217 00:11:41,014 --> 00:11:43,574 Speaker 5: look at Rise Up. We have more than fifteen hundred 218 00:11:43,654 --> 00:11:47,614 Speaker 5: volunteers joining the ranks to play their role in ending 219 00:11:47,694 --> 00:11:50,534 Speaker 5: violence against women. So, you know, I think the tide 220 00:11:50,614 --> 00:11:54,054 Speaker 5: will start and continue to turn. And we just from 221 00:11:54,094 --> 00:11:56,694 Speaker 5: the bottom of our hearts, we just wish victims survivors 222 00:11:56,774 --> 00:11:59,174 Speaker 5: all the very best, and we're here to walk beside you. 223 00:12:03,454 --> 00:12:06,374 Speaker 1: The second most discussed topic was how do you afford 224 00:12:06,454 --> 00:12:09,494 Speaker 1: to leave? With financial abuse also a factor. You may 225 00:12:09,654 --> 00:12:11,494 Speaker 1: not have access to money, You may not have a 226 00:12:11,534 --> 00:12:14,014 Speaker 1: way of getting the basics to keep you and potentially 227 00:12:14,014 --> 00:12:15,454 Speaker 1: your children fed and housed. 228 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:18,054 Speaker 4: Remove them as beneficiaries on your superannuation. 229 00:12:18,414 --> 00:12:20,774 Speaker 6: If you have extra funds on your mortgage in an 230 00:12:20,814 --> 00:12:24,974 Speaker 6: offset account, notify the bank and ask that a freeze 231 00:12:24,974 --> 00:12:27,814 Speaker 6: be put on the funds. Most banks will do this 232 00:12:27,974 --> 00:12:31,134 Speaker 6: if you tell them it's a GV situation. The partner 233 00:12:31,134 --> 00:12:33,974 Speaker 6: cannot take the funds without both of you signing off 234 00:12:33,974 --> 00:12:35,654 Speaker 6: on it in person at the bank. 235 00:12:35,894 --> 00:12:38,294 Speaker 12: If you need to make some quick cash, sell things 236 00:12:38,334 --> 00:12:40,494 Speaker 12: you don't need on marketplace if you have enough time 237 00:12:40,534 --> 00:12:43,334 Speaker 12: alone to do so. I also hed money by having 238 00:12:43,374 --> 00:12:45,494 Speaker 12: one hundred dollars a week of my pay diverted to 239 00:12:45,654 --> 00:12:48,854 Speaker 12: secret bank account. I never took any pay slips home, 240 00:12:48,894 --> 00:12:51,094 Speaker 12: and I was on commission, so he had no idea 241 00:12:51,134 --> 00:12:53,014 Speaker 12: as my pay changed each week. 242 00:12:53,414 --> 00:12:56,374 Speaker 1: One woman who escaped her violent partner had an entire 243 00:12:56,534 --> 00:12:58,534 Speaker 1: spreadsheet of things that she did at the time. 244 00:12:58,774 --> 00:12:59,734 Speaker 3: Here's just a few of them. 245 00:13:00,014 --> 00:13:02,374 Speaker 1: She says, Open a new bank account with a new bank, 246 00:13:02,574 --> 00:13:05,494 Speaker 1: ensure that statements are online only, and to a new 247 00:13:05,574 --> 00:13:08,374 Speaker 1: email address that isn't linked to your phone or any 248 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:11,374 Speaker 1: existing emails. Pick up the card from the bank and 249 00:13:11,494 --> 00:13:14,454 Speaker 1: hide it, suggesting amongst the abuses things is usually a 250 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:17,774 Speaker 1: safe place, as they won't go looking there otherwise, She says, 251 00:13:18,094 --> 00:13:21,014 Speaker 1: under a sole, insert inside a shoe, an unused board 252 00:13:21,054 --> 00:13:23,654 Speaker 1: game at work, in the lining of your bras, or 253 00:13:23,694 --> 00:13:27,134 Speaker 1: even the washing powder box. She says, do not download 254 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:29,574 Speaker 1: the banking app to your phone. Start putting what you 255 00:13:29,614 --> 00:13:32,734 Speaker 1: can into that account. Any birthday money from friends or family, 256 00:13:32,934 --> 00:13:35,694 Speaker 1: an unnoticeable amount from your wage, talk to your work 257 00:13:35,734 --> 00:13:38,254 Speaker 1: or send a link about that. Don't transfer to this 258 00:13:38,294 --> 00:13:41,814 Speaker 1: account yourself. Do everything via cash deposit, and for any 259 00:13:41,934 --> 00:13:44,014 Speaker 1: change that you find around the house. She says, A 260 00:13:44,054 --> 00:13:46,254 Speaker 1: six hundred meal bottle of coke ful of two dollar 261 00:13:46,294 --> 00:13:48,014 Speaker 1: coins surround one thousand dollars. 262 00:13:49,734 --> 00:13:52,054 Speaker 3: She also said that A and Zed, Westpac. 263 00:13:51,654 --> 00:13:54,134 Speaker 1: And Commonwealth banks will give you one thousand dollars in 264 00:13:54,254 --> 00:13:56,814 Speaker 1: visa cards and a new phone to help you escape DV, 265 00:13:57,174 --> 00:13:59,134 Speaker 1: but only if you're a customer there for at least 266 00:13:59,134 --> 00:13:59,734 Speaker 1: six months. 267 00:13:59,974 --> 00:14:00,334 Speaker 3: She says. 268 00:14:00,374 --> 00:14:02,454 Speaker 1: If you're not already, set up your account at one 269 00:14:02,494 --> 00:14:05,174 Speaker 1: of these places and make a seven month plan. She 270 00:14:05,214 --> 00:14:08,094 Speaker 1: also says, if you have debit or credit cards, report 271 00:14:08,094 --> 00:14:11,014 Speaker 1: them stolen once you leave so that your abuser can't 272 00:14:11,094 --> 00:14:14,454 Speaker 1: access them once new numbers are provided. She finished by 273 00:14:14,454 --> 00:14:17,734 Speaker 1: saying that finances you can rely on are a must 274 00:14:17,934 --> 00:14:20,374 Speaker 1: to ensure that you don't break and run back on 275 00:14:20,454 --> 00:14:23,814 Speaker 1: fake promises. She says, be realistic about how much you'll 276 00:14:23,814 --> 00:14:26,294 Speaker 1: need to survive on and cut a budget to make 277 00:14:26,334 --> 00:14:31,654 Speaker 1: that goal. To help us understand the financial aspect a 278 00:14:31,694 --> 00:14:34,094 Speaker 1: bit more, we're joined by Caroline Wall, the head of 279 00:14:34,094 --> 00:14:38,254 Speaker 1: customer Vulnerability at Comback and the main spokesperson for next Chapter, 280 00:14:38,494 --> 00:14:41,454 Speaker 1: a support program for long term recovery for victim survivors 281 00:14:41,494 --> 00:14:44,934 Speaker 1: of financial abuse. Caroline, A lot of the suggestions we 282 00:14:44,974 --> 00:14:47,134 Speaker 1: receive from women who've been through this is to open 283 00:14:47,134 --> 00:14:49,974 Speaker 1: a bank account, preferably not at the same institution as 284 00:14:49,974 --> 00:14:52,214 Speaker 1: the one you currently are at, and to make sure 285 00:14:52,214 --> 00:14:54,734 Speaker 1: all your statements are online sent you on your email address, 286 00:14:54,814 --> 00:14:56,814 Speaker 1: not link to anything. Would you agree that that's a 287 00:14:56,854 --> 00:14:58,174 Speaker 1: smart move first. 288 00:14:58,294 --> 00:15:00,734 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, I think it's important to acknowledge that 289 00:15:00,774 --> 00:15:04,054 Speaker 2: every relationship is different and no one knows their situation 290 00:15:04,214 --> 00:15:07,654 Speaker 2: better than the person experiencing, so what's safe for one 291 00:15:07,694 --> 00:15:11,414 Speaker 2: person may not necessarily be said for another. That being said, 292 00:15:11,454 --> 00:15:14,934 Speaker 2: we do absolutely advocate for people experiencing any kind of 293 00:15:14,974 --> 00:15:18,134 Speaker 2: violence or coercive control to have their own bank account 294 00:15:18,134 --> 00:15:20,734 Speaker 2: that their partner doesn't have access to, and theise are 295 00:15:20,734 --> 00:15:24,294 Speaker 2: often referred to as safe accounts. Now, what we recommend 296 00:15:24,414 --> 00:15:27,094 Speaker 2: is that your pay or any other income goes directly 297 00:15:27,174 --> 00:15:30,574 Speaker 2: into this account rather than into a joint account. There's 298 00:15:30,614 --> 00:15:32,934 Speaker 2: a couple of options to consider, So a safe account 299 00:15:32,974 --> 00:15:35,414 Speaker 2: can be set up with your existing bank, or it 300 00:15:35,454 --> 00:15:37,334 Speaker 2: can be set up with a bank that your partner 301 00:15:37,374 --> 00:15:40,454 Speaker 2: doesn't have any accounts with. Now, the benefit of the 302 00:15:40,574 --> 00:15:43,974 Speaker 2: latter option, obviously, is that having an account with a 303 00:15:44,014 --> 00:15:48,614 Speaker 2: totally different financial institution means that that organization or bank 304 00:15:48,694 --> 00:15:53,894 Speaker 2: can never inadvertently send either information or communication to your 305 00:15:53,934 --> 00:15:56,854 Speaker 2: partner or ex partner by accident. It also makes it 306 00:15:56,854 --> 00:15:59,654 Speaker 2: a lot harder for an abusive partner or X to 307 00:15:59,854 --> 00:16:03,174 Speaker 2: contact the bank and pretend to be you. So whichever 308 00:16:03,214 --> 00:16:06,094 Speaker 2: option you go for, you know there are benefits and 309 00:16:06,174 --> 00:16:09,974 Speaker 2: cons of both, but definitely recommend a separate account that 310 00:16:10,014 --> 00:16:12,014 Speaker 2: your partner or ex partner doesn't know about. 311 00:16:12,374 --> 00:16:14,894 Speaker 1: Some people mentioned too that because you kind of touched 312 00:16:14,894 --> 00:16:18,494 Speaker 1: on there, maybe getting your pay diverted into this new 313 00:16:18,534 --> 00:16:21,374 Speaker 1: safe account, But the timing of doing that is very 314 00:16:21,454 --> 00:16:25,334 Speaker 1: important because often coercive control and financial abuse kind of 315 00:16:25,334 --> 00:16:28,334 Speaker 1: go hand in hand, and changing where your pay ends 316 00:16:28,414 --> 00:16:33,294 Speaker 1: up going could potentially ignite a spark that wouldn't have otherwise. 317 00:16:33,574 --> 00:16:34,974 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people who are saying that 318 00:16:35,014 --> 00:16:38,294 Speaker 1: maybe just deal in cash wherever you can and deposit 319 00:16:38,334 --> 00:16:40,694 Speaker 1: in cash without there being any transactions that can be 320 00:16:40,694 --> 00:16:43,414 Speaker 1: traced or monitored, especially if a partner has access to 321 00:16:43,454 --> 00:16:46,374 Speaker 1: your payslips for example, cash is one option. 322 00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:49,974 Speaker 2: The reason that people will recommend this is usually because 323 00:16:50,414 --> 00:16:54,054 Speaker 2: of something called technology facilitated abuse, which often goes hand 324 00:16:54,054 --> 00:16:56,974 Speaker 2: in hand with financial abuse, and that is where a 325 00:16:57,014 --> 00:17:02,854 Speaker 2: perpetrator will use technology to exacerbate a pattern of coercive control, 326 00:17:03,214 --> 00:17:06,134 Speaker 2: and that could be using technology to coerce or or 327 00:17:06,174 --> 00:17:10,174 Speaker 2: harass another person. One form of this would be installing 328 00:17:10,254 --> 00:17:14,134 Speaker 2: spyware or other tracking technology onto your mobile phone or 329 00:17:14,174 --> 00:17:18,254 Speaker 2: tech devices, and this means that anything that you do online, 330 00:17:18,334 --> 00:17:22,494 Speaker 2: including accessing your online banking, could be viewed by the 331 00:17:22,534 --> 00:17:25,454 Speaker 2: abusive partner. This means that even if you do the 332 00:17:25,574 --> 00:17:29,854 Speaker 2: standard steps which we would recommend, such as changing your passwords, 333 00:17:29,854 --> 00:17:33,454 Speaker 2: your login details, or even downloading a new banking app 334 00:17:33,454 --> 00:17:38,174 Speaker 2: with another institution, could be open to coercion or abuse 335 00:17:38,254 --> 00:17:41,734 Speaker 2: by that partner. One way to avoid this would be 336 00:17:41,774 --> 00:17:45,334 Speaker 2: to consider using cash, although the downside of that is 337 00:17:45,374 --> 00:17:48,214 Speaker 2: it does place a large amount of burden on the 338 00:17:48,294 --> 00:17:52,054 Speaker 2: victim survivor to have to do that. As society moves 339 00:17:52,094 --> 00:17:56,574 Speaker 2: into more of a cashless society, there are some businesses 340 00:17:56,654 --> 00:17:59,574 Speaker 2: or organizations that no longer accept cash, and so you 341 00:17:59,614 --> 00:18:02,814 Speaker 2: may find that it's quite restrictive. The first thing that 342 00:18:02,854 --> 00:18:05,494 Speaker 2: we would recommend doing before deciding, you know, to move 343 00:18:05,694 --> 00:18:10,014 Speaker 2: entirely cashless, is to ensure that your device itself is safe, 344 00:18:10,174 --> 00:18:12,854 Speaker 2: and to do that you can speak to an organization 345 00:18:12,974 --> 00:18:16,174 Speaker 2: such as Wassn't It. They have some fantastic resources online 346 00:18:16,254 --> 00:18:19,054 Speaker 2: about how to understand if your device is being monitored 347 00:18:19,454 --> 00:18:22,654 Speaker 2: or stalked, which includes things like you're battery draining very 348 00:18:22,694 --> 00:18:26,054 Speaker 2: fast and ensuring that your device is safe, and that 349 00:18:26,294 --> 00:18:30,054 Speaker 2: is probably the best recommendation that we can give to people, because, 350 00:18:30,254 --> 00:18:32,254 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, even if you open a new account 351 00:18:32,254 --> 00:18:36,854 Speaker 2: with a different financial institution and that technology is being used, 352 00:18:37,174 --> 00:18:39,574 Speaker 2: then there is a way for your perpetrator to access 353 00:18:39,614 --> 00:18:40,374 Speaker 2: that information. 354 00:18:40,814 --> 00:18:43,414 Speaker 1: I guess then you'd have to include things like where 355 00:18:43,454 --> 00:18:46,014 Speaker 1: your statements go, because if you're worried about your technology 356 00:18:46,054 --> 00:18:49,494 Speaker 1: being looked at online statements might not necessarily be the 357 00:18:49,574 --> 00:18:52,894 Speaker 1: best way. But maybe not getting statements sent to your 358 00:18:52,894 --> 00:18:55,454 Speaker 1: home either, so you kind of are stuck there a 359 00:18:55,494 --> 00:18:58,214 Speaker 1: little bit. Could you maybe have it sent to someone else, 360 00:18:58,334 --> 00:19:00,374 Speaker 1: like a friend's house. Is that even an option? 361 00:19:00,854 --> 00:19:03,054 Speaker 2: There are a couple of options for people to consider. 362 00:19:03,294 --> 00:19:07,094 Speaker 2: The first is setting up a new email address, so 363 00:19:07,254 --> 00:19:10,414 Speaker 2: again the same with a safe bank account, setting up 364 00:19:10,454 --> 00:19:13,694 Speaker 2: a new email address if your technology isn't being tracked, 365 00:19:14,094 --> 00:19:16,454 Speaker 2: is it a good way to ensure that if your 366 00:19:16,454 --> 00:19:19,254 Speaker 2: partner or ex partner has access to your old or 367 00:19:19,294 --> 00:19:22,974 Speaker 2: existing email addresses, you're not closing them down, which could 368 00:19:23,014 --> 00:19:25,654 Speaker 2: be a red flag or a sign that you're thinking 369 00:19:25,654 --> 00:19:28,494 Speaker 2: about leaving to a perpetrator. The other way to do 370 00:19:28,574 --> 00:19:32,614 Speaker 2: that is to consider updating your residential address as well, 371 00:19:32,854 --> 00:19:35,734 Speaker 2: so you are allowed to update your residential address with 372 00:19:35,814 --> 00:19:39,014 Speaker 2: your financial institution, so you could set up a new 373 00:19:39,054 --> 00:19:42,854 Speaker 2: address for that information to be sent to. If you 374 00:19:43,454 --> 00:19:47,934 Speaker 2: are experiencing tech facilitated abuse or coercive control using technology, 375 00:19:48,454 --> 00:19:52,694 Speaker 2: then having printed statements may be safer. So it depends 376 00:19:52,694 --> 00:19:55,094 Speaker 2: on your situation and what your experience is. 377 00:19:55,094 --> 00:19:57,414 Speaker 1: To an extent, what about when you set up your 378 00:19:57,494 --> 00:20:01,614 Speaker 1: new safe account when you're not doing it in a branch, 379 00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:05,014 Speaker 1: they need to get the card to you somehow is 380 00:20:05,054 --> 00:20:07,414 Speaker 1: it best to organize to have it picked up at 381 00:20:07,454 --> 00:20:09,414 Speaker 1: a branch? Or what if you live somewhere with their 382 00:20:09,574 --> 00:20:11,814 Speaker 1: are no branches of your particular bank and you have 383 00:20:11,894 --> 00:20:13,054 Speaker 1: to do everything over the phone. 384 00:20:13,134 --> 00:20:14,294 Speaker 3: How do you get around that. 385 00:20:14,894 --> 00:20:18,734 Speaker 2: Very challenging situation. So some banks will allow you to 386 00:20:18,894 --> 00:20:22,614 Speaker 2: pick up your new card from a branch location. Other 387 00:20:22,694 --> 00:20:24,854 Speaker 2: banks don't allow you to do that, and they do 388 00:20:24,974 --> 00:20:28,134 Speaker 2: require it to be sent to an address. And other 389 00:20:28,174 --> 00:20:32,174 Speaker 2: banks are digital only and only have online service. Now, 390 00:20:32,574 --> 00:20:36,174 Speaker 2: if you're banking with an online provider only, then obviously 391 00:20:36,214 --> 00:20:40,054 Speaker 2: that won't be an option in that particular instance. Again, 392 00:20:40,134 --> 00:20:43,654 Speaker 2: we recommend updating your residential address to a safety address. 393 00:20:43,774 --> 00:20:46,134 Speaker 2: That could be your parent's address, it could be a 394 00:20:46,174 --> 00:20:49,774 Speaker 2: trusted friend's address. And having the cards sent there rather 395 00:20:49,774 --> 00:20:53,094 Speaker 2: than to your home location. The other thing to consider 396 00:20:53,694 --> 00:20:57,214 Speaker 2: is using oz posts, so Australia Posts have a twelve 397 00:20:57,214 --> 00:21:01,894 Speaker 2: month free mail redirection for anyone that's experiencing financial abuse. 398 00:21:02,334 --> 00:21:04,334 Speaker 2: This would mean that you wouldn't actually have to update 399 00:21:04,374 --> 00:21:07,374 Speaker 2: your address in a banking system or disclose that address 400 00:21:07,454 --> 00:21:10,334 Speaker 2: to your bank, but that mail would allsomatically be re 401 00:21:10,494 --> 00:21:13,334 Speaker 2: routed by Australia Posts for up to twelve months to 402 00:21:13,414 --> 00:21:14,534 Speaker 2: a safe address for you. 403 00:21:15,134 --> 00:21:17,174 Speaker 1: A lot of advice that we received from people too 404 00:21:17,374 --> 00:21:21,374 Speaker 1: was after you do manage to leave, leaving behind all 405 00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:25,054 Speaker 1: of those old bank accounts etc. Is not always easy 406 00:21:25,054 --> 00:21:28,774 Speaker 1: because it does leave you open to the partner using 407 00:21:28,814 --> 00:21:31,774 Speaker 1: those bank accounts and maybe draining them or using that 408 00:21:31,854 --> 00:21:34,934 Speaker 1: card for other purposes for identity. What can you do 409 00:21:35,014 --> 00:21:37,294 Speaker 1: to make sure that those old cards and those older 410 00:21:37,334 --> 00:21:39,854 Speaker 1: bank accounts don't leave you exposed after you leave? 411 00:21:40,454 --> 00:21:43,214 Speaker 2: Firstly, if you think your bank account cards or your 412 00:21:43,254 --> 00:21:46,094 Speaker 2: credit cards have been compromised in any way or that 413 00:21:46,134 --> 00:21:49,534 Speaker 2: someone may have access to them, most banks have the 414 00:21:49,574 --> 00:21:52,534 Speaker 2: functionality either through your app, to put a block on 415 00:21:52,614 --> 00:21:55,894 Speaker 2: those cards. That doesn't cancel the account altogether, but it 416 00:21:55,894 --> 00:21:59,934 Speaker 2: does stop the physical card from being used on that account. 417 00:22:00,454 --> 00:22:03,934 Speaker 2: You can also cancel the cards altogether through the banking 418 00:22:03,974 --> 00:22:07,094 Speaker 2: app or by phoning up or visiting your brunch. That's 419 00:22:07,134 --> 00:22:09,734 Speaker 2: one of the safest things that you can do. The 420 00:22:09,814 --> 00:22:12,734 Speaker 2: other thing to consider is that if you do open 421 00:22:12,854 --> 00:22:16,334 Speaker 2: up a new safe account, often if you're using an 422 00:22:16,374 --> 00:22:19,174 Speaker 2: online banking app or your ex partner or partner has 423 00:22:19,214 --> 00:22:22,134 Speaker 2: access to that app. When a new card is issued, 424 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:25,374 Speaker 2: they often appear in the banking app so that customers 425 00:22:25,374 --> 00:22:27,414 Speaker 2: can use them while they're waiting for their new physical 426 00:22:27,494 --> 00:22:30,574 Speaker 2: card to arrive. So just be aware of that because 427 00:22:30,574 --> 00:22:32,814 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know that that information could 428 00:22:32,854 --> 00:22:35,534 Speaker 2: be visible in the app and that the card could 429 00:22:35,614 --> 00:22:37,934 Speaker 2: be used without having the physical card presence. 430 00:22:38,414 --> 00:22:41,294 Speaker 1: Caroline, I know that different banks have different programs set 431 00:22:41,334 --> 00:22:44,454 Speaker 1: up to help women who are leaving a violent relationship. 432 00:22:44,574 --> 00:22:46,814 Speaker 1: What Combank specific programs are there. 433 00:22:47,254 --> 00:22:49,574 Speaker 2: Combank has been working in the area of family and 434 00:22:49,614 --> 00:22:53,414 Speaker 2: domestic violence since about twenty fifteen, and that really culminated 435 00:22:53,414 --> 00:22:56,054 Speaker 2: in the launch of a program called combank Next Chapter, 436 00:22:56,454 --> 00:22:59,774 Speaker 2: which is our bank wide commitment to helping end financial abuse. 437 00:23:00,054 --> 00:23:02,934 Speaker 2: Through that program, there's a number of support options available. 438 00:23:03,094 --> 00:23:06,094 Speaker 2: The first is are dedicated next chapter team. Now they 439 00:23:06,134 --> 00:23:09,414 Speaker 2: are trauma informed specialists who can provide free and come 440 00:23:09,614 --> 00:23:13,814 Speaker 2: findancial support to customers and non customers by supporting them 441 00:23:13,814 --> 00:23:16,894 Speaker 2: with safe banking options but also referring them to a 442 00:23:16,974 --> 00:23:20,374 Speaker 2: range of specialist services. Now that's available no matter who 443 00:23:20,414 --> 00:23:22,694 Speaker 2: you banquet. You don't have to be a customer of 444 00:23:22,774 --> 00:23:26,054 Speaker 2: CBA to access some of the support services available. The 445 00:23:26,134 --> 00:23:29,534 Speaker 2: other option is we've partnered with the Good Shepherds Foundation 446 00:23:30,014 --> 00:23:33,334 Speaker 2: and developed something called the Financial Independence Hub. The service 447 00:23:33,374 --> 00:23:36,414 Speaker 2: is delivered by Good shepherd and really helps people impacted 448 00:23:36,414 --> 00:23:40,334 Speaker 2: by financial abuse to regain their confidence and move forwards 449 00:23:40,374 --> 00:23:44,934 Speaker 2: towards longer term financial independence. So that includes free coaching 450 00:23:45,334 --> 00:23:49,934 Speaker 2: and advisory services as well as financial counseling services to 451 00:23:50,014 --> 00:23:53,574 Speaker 2: help people regain their financial independence. And then in addition 452 00:23:53,654 --> 00:23:56,734 Speaker 2: to that, we have a resource called Recognize and Recover. 453 00:23:57,134 --> 00:23:59,614 Speaker 2: Now that's a guide that can be downloaded or is 454 00:23:59,654 --> 00:24:04,214 Speaker 2: available in branches in print that talks about managing money 455 00:24:04,214 --> 00:24:07,294 Speaker 2: in relationships. It talks about what to do and how 456 00:24:07,334 --> 00:24:10,174 Speaker 2: to prepare if you're thinking about leaving a violent relationship, 457 00:24:10,574 --> 00:24:13,294 Speaker 2: and then it gives you lots of support and tips 458 00:24:13,334 --> 00:24:16,854 Speaker 2: for what to do once you have left. So ideas 459 00:24:16,894 --> 00:24:20,254 Speaker 2: on how to secure your banking, how to stay safe online, 460 00:24:20,534 --> 00:24:24,654 Speaker 2: how to understand if your technology has been compromised, as 461 00:24:24,654 --> 00:24:27,334 Speaker 2: well as support services that are available. 462 00:24:30,014 --> 00:24:32,894 Speaker 1: The government also earlier this year announced from next year 463 00:24:32,974 --> 00:24:35,934 Speaker 1: the five thousand dollars Leaving Violence Payment, which is offered 464 00:24:35,934 --> 00:24:40,334 Speaker 1: to any eligible victim survivor, regardless of gender or visa status, 465 00:24:40,374 --> 00:24:42,614 Speaker 1: so if you are not a citizen or permanent resident, 466 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:45,894 Speaker 1: you'll be able to access this too. You receive fifteen 467 00:24:45,974 --> 00:24:48,414 Speaker 1: hundred dollars in cash and the remaining funds in goods 468 00:24:48,414 --> 00:24:52,214 Speaker 1: and services, with the support including safety planning, risk assessment 469 00:24:52,374 --> 00:24:54,174 Speaker 1: and referrals to essential services for. 470 00:24:54,254 --> 00:24:56,414 Speaker 3: Up to twelve weeks now. This will be kicking in 471 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:57,774 Speaker 3: from mid twenty twenty five. 472 00:24:57,934 --> 00:25:01,654 Speaker 1: Until then, victim survivors can access the Escaping Violence Payment 473 00:25:01,774 --> 00:25:06,014 Speaker 1: and the Temporary Visa Holders Experiencing Violence programs. Not all 474 00:25:06,054 --> 00:25:08,454 Speaker 1: the advice you heard here today will be beneficial to you, 475 00:25:08,774 --> 00:25:11,174 Speaker 1: so please make make sure you assess what is right 476 00:25:11,254 --> 00:25:14,614 Speaker 1: for your situation and plan accordingly. We'll put links to 477 00:25:14,654 --> 00:25:17,134 Speaker 1: Combat Support Service and rise Up in the show notes, 478 00:25:17,174 --> 00:25:20,774 Speaker 1: along with the DV hotline details, and finally we'll leave 479 00:25:20,814 --> 00:25:22,694 Speaker 1: you with a few words from those who've been there 480 00:25:22,694 --> 00:25:24,494 Speaker 1: before you and survived. 481 00:25:24,534 --> 00:25:26,614 Speaker 13: Be ready for the whole range of emotions to be 482 00:25:26,694 --> 00:25:29,454 Speaker 13: thrown at you. See your gp about getting a mental 483 00:25:29,454 --> 00:25:31,574 Speaker 13: health plan in place for you when you need to 484 00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:34,134 Speaker 13: talk to a therapist. Be proud you are making the 485 00:25:34,174 --> 00:25:35,654 Speaker 13: right choice for a better life. 486 00:25:36,534 --> 00:25:38,094 Speaker 3: Thanks for spending some time with us today. 487 00:25:38,094 --> 00:25:39,974 Speaker 1: If you'd like to donate to Rise Up, you can 488 00:25:40,014 --> 00:25:42,054 Speaker 1: also do that through the link in our show notes. 489 00:25:42,294 --> 00:25:45,054 Speaker 1: The quickie is produced by me Claire Murphy and our 490 00:25:45,054 --> 00:25:48,654 Speaker 1: executive producer Taylor Strano, with audio production by Tom Lyon.