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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. It might still be early in

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Speaker 2: Trump's second term, but some are already talking about his

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Speaker 2: presidential legacy, from peace deals to high stake summits. He's

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Speaker 2: but is it working? Before we get there, Here is

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Speaker 2: Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: August twelve.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor, US President Donald Trump is deploying eight hundred

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Speaker 1: National Guard troops to Washington, DC and putting the city's

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Speaker 1: city's elected leaders, is a wielding of executive authority that

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Speaker 1: has little precedent in modern US history, and in defiance

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Speaker 1: of political norms. The President cast his actions as necessary

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Speaker 1: to rest, thank you, Washington, from what he described as

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Speaker 1: a wave of lawlessness, despite statistics showing that violent crime

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Speaker 1: has continued to decline this year. It's the second time

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Speaker 1: governed city, also sending thousands of National Guard troops to

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Speaker 1: local officials, Trump signaled at a news conference that he

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Speaker 1: may also deploy the National Guard to yet another major

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Speaker 1: US city with Democratic leadership, hinting that Chicago, where violent

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Speaker 1: crime was down significantly in the first half of this year,

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Speaker 1: maybe next. Trump has shown particular interest in taking over Washington,

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Speaker 1: which is under the jurisdiction of Congress but exercises self

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Speaker 1: including the FBI, ISDA, and ATF, fanning out across the city.

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Speaker 1: In recent days, The Democratic mayor of Washington, Muriel Bowser,

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Speaker 1: decades last year. The city's attorney General, Brian Schwab, called

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Speaker 1: Trump's actions unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful and said his office

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Speaker 1: was considering all options. House of Representatives Democratic leader Haqem

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Speaker 1: Jeffries took to social media to say Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: off get lost. Australia has been urged to go further

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Speaker 1: than recognizing a Palestinian state by following up with sanctions

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Speaker 1: Australia continues to arms trade with, diplomatically protect and encourage

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Speaker 1: other states to normalize relations with the very state perpetrating

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Speaker 1: these atrocities. Labour Friends of Palestine welcomed the move, but

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Speaker 1: The Federal government has maintained that Australia is not exporting

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Speaker 1: the contribution of Australian companies to the supply chain for

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Speaker 1: Meghan have extended their partnership with Netflix with a multi

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Speaker 1: our Archworld Productions team to create thoughtful content across genres

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Speaker 1: that there will be a second season of We Love Megan,

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Speaker 1: her lifestyle and cooking show, which will have a special

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Speaker 1: Carli Fortune's novel Meet Me at the Lake. Lifeblood are

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, what will Trump's lasting legacy be? It's

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Speaker 2: still technically early days in Donald Trump's second residential term,

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Speaker 2: Billionaire businessman, immigration reformer, newly found fan of Sydney Sweeney.

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Speaker 2: While all these things may be true, is it his

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Speaker 2: Later this week, the US President will meet with Russian

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Speaker 2: Trump has helped negotiate a peace deal between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

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Speaker 2: As part of this agreement, a key transit corridor will

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Speaker 4: This is kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 5: Armenia and Azerbaijan have been fighting for many years, over

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Speaker 5: And meanwhile Trump gets what he wants because the US

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Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like every other day I'm reading Trump

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Speaker 2: between these two nations who are at loggerheads. How effective

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's sort of like what's been happening

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Speaker 5: But trade deals take months, if not years, to broker,

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Speaker 2: Is this what he's angling towards them? Will this be

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Speaker 2: brokering peace deals between nations, potentially taking a Nobel Peace

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of world leaders are making a

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Speaker 5: that appealing to this idea that Trump is a peacemaker

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Speaker 4: And you can see that sense.

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Speaker 5: Of appealing to flattery in how the German Chancellor Frederick

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Speaker 5: Mertz talks about Trump. He's always giving Trump the benefit

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Speaker 2: Trump will meet with Vladimir Putin in Alaska. What will

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Speaker 2: the nature of their talks? B do you think, Amelia,

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Speaker 2: is he putting the clamps on Putin to take a deal.

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Speaker 2: It's a big win for Putin because the fact that

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Speaker 2: this is going ahead at all, Trump and Putin are

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Speaker 2: meeting on the same stage in Alaska. This is a

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Speaker 2: big win for Putin. It makes him seem as important

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Speaker 2: or equivalent to Trump. And so far, the Ukrainian presence Zelaanski,

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Speaker 5: But it's a little odd to be talking about brokering

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Speaker 5: We just learned that maybe taking place under somewhat false pretenses.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you're joking, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: This just came out in the German press.

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Speaker 5: Steve Wikoff thought that Putin had offered to make a

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Speaker 5: It turns out he was pressing for Ukraine to make

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Speaker 5: because if there's one thing that Wickcof and Trump understand,

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Speaker 5: it's real estate. They thought Putin was making this big

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Speaker 5: The other problem with these so called peace deal talks

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Speaker 5: Ukraine has said that they need a ceasefire, They need

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Speaker 5: talks that include territorial issues. Russia has said that they

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be very difficult to proceed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and also, like you mentioned, difficult because Ukraine's leader

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Speaker 2: Zelenski won't at this stage be in attendance at said

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Speaker 2: peace talk meeting. Whether or not that's lost in translation

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Speaker 2: or not. That's incredible and terrible at the same time.

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Speaker 4: It is incredible And JD.

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Speaker 5: Vance said on the Sunday Shows he was doing the

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Speaker 5: have to agree in the event of a land swap,

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Speaker 5: sort of implying that Ukraine might be asked at some

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Speaker 5: promises as to whether they would attend the meeting. And

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Speaker 5: by the way, this whole idea of a land swap,

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Speaker 5: that is what Trump has said he's going to hammer

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Speaker 5: out with Putin. Ukraine is not interested in a so

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Speaker 5: called land swap because what that means is Russia taking

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Speaker 5: territory that is part of Ukraine. What territory would Ukraine take. Well,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't want Russia swap.

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Speaker 2: And also it's actually barred in the Ukrainian constitution to

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Speaker 2: do so to seed that land, so there's a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a legal issue there. I saw a fascinating,

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Speaker 2: an absolutely brilliant headline this morning that said it was

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Speaker 2: to the effect of Vice President JD. Vans aiming to

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Speaker 2: schedule talks between Trump and Zolensky, which just makes him

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Speaker 4: At this point, I think that's right.

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Speaker 5: And Vance, of course, just celebrated his birthday, the glorified

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Speaker 5: executive assistant. Did you hear the reports that he asked

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Speaker 5: for the water levels in the Colorado River that he

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Speaker 5: was rafting on to be raised for him and his family.

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Speaker 2: Well, because you can just make that happen. There's one

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Speaker 2: more point I want to touch on with you, Amelia,

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Speaker 2: and that's of this emergency meeting that happened at the

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Speaker 4: It took place yesterday.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of the members of that council called for

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Speaker 2: an emergency meeting in response to what is happening in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: So European nations involved have outright opposed this full military

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Speaker 2: occupation in Gaza that Israel has voted to proceed with

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Speaker 2: the US representative in that meeting, so that these nations

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Speaker 2: were effectively empowering Hamas because they were condemning Israel. Is

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Speaker 2: this the one conflict that the US may not even

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Speaker 2: be able to get a looking on. I know that Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: Russia is still in the works. We've had Armenia, Azerbaijan,

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Speaker 2: they did some work with Iran earlier this year. What

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Israel is increasingly a pariah on the world stage,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of people at Israel don't even agree

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Speaker 5: with Netnya whose decision to or this plan that he

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Speaker 5: and his security cabinet have announced, including by the way,

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Speaker 5: families of hostages who say that this push into central

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Speaker 5: the safety of the estimated twenty hostages who remain in Gaza.

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Speaker 5: But despite that opposition both in and outside of Israel,

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Speaker 5: You're exactly right, Trump has not distanced himself from Natannya,

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Speaker 5: who he and NETNYA who spoke yesterday on Sunday night,

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Speaker 5: NETNYA who was very quick to release a statement saying

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Speaker 5: that they'd had a great conversation that Trump was fully

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Speaker 5: think that that's going to work.

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