1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,744 Speaker 1: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily Fault 5 00:00:28,744 --> 00:00:29,264 Speaker 1: to Fix. 6 00:00:29,384 --> 00:00:30,864 Speaker 3: I'm Cassana lu Kitz. 7 00:00:30,704 --> 00:00:33,664 Speaker 2: And I'm and vernam Okay. On the show. 8 00:00:33,704 --> 00:00:36,624 Speaker 1: Today, we are going to be diving into our favorite 9 00:00:37,184 --> 00:00:38,704 Speaker 1: movie franchises. 10 00:00:39,224 --> 00:00:40,144 Speaker 2: Now, this is off the. 11 00:00:40,144 --> 00:00:46,904 Speaker 1: Back of the slightly disappointing Jurassic World disappointing. 12 00:00:46,264 --> 00:00:49,424 Speaker 2: For some aka Tina B. So if you haven't listened 13 00:00:49,504 --> 00:00:52,784 Speaker 2: to our Weekend Watch episode that was released early this morning, 14 00:00:53,344 --> 00:00:55,744 Speaker 2: go listen to that so you know what we're talking about. 15 00:00:55,784 --> 00:00:58,704 Speaker 2: But we had a bit of a disagreement with a 16 00:00:58,744 --> 00:01:01,984 Speaker 2: weekend Watch, so you got both sides, And basically, we 17 00:01:02,224 --> 00:01:05,944 Speaker 2: watched the new Jurassic World movie. We want you to 18 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:07,984 Speaker 2: watch it and then tell us whether you liked it 19 00:01:08,104 --> 00:01:08,344 Speaker 2: or not. 20 00:01:08,464 --> 00:01:10,264 Speaker 1: I know, but it kind of got us thinking about 21 00:01:10,464 --> 00:01:13,304 Speaker 1: some of our favorite franchises, so we thought we'd do 22 00:01:13,904 --> 00:01:16,704 Speaker 1: an episode. It's kind of like a breakdown of some 23 00:01:16,784 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 1: of our favorite movie franchises. And these are the movie 24 00:01:22,064 --> 00:01:25,544 Speaker 1: franchises that once you start watching the first one, you 25 00:01:25,664 --> 00:01:27,584 Speaker 1: have to watch the entire series. 26 00:01:27,664 --> 00:01:30,064 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not the franchise as where or like the 27 00:01:30,104 --> 00:01:31,904 Speaker 2: first one's always the best one, where you can just 28 00:01:31,944 --> 00:01:34,024 Speaker 2: watch that first movie and pretend the rest don't exist. 29 00:01:34,104 --> 00:01:36,104 Speaker 2: These are the ones where, like, no, no, no, you 30 00:01:36,144 --> 00:01:39,184 Speaker 2: have to see the whole story through because it's that good. 31 00:01:39,264 --> 00:01:41,304 Speaker 2: You have to watch the second or third, fourth, fifth. 32 00:01:41,064 --> 00:01:43,304 Speaker 1: And it's that kind of franchise that you keep coming 33 00:01:43,344 --> 00:01:46,544 Speaker 1: back to, like you can watch it over and over again. 34 00:01:46,704 --> 00:01:49,984 Speaker 1: You have those movie marathons, you do a binge and 35 00:01:50,064 --> 00:01:52,864 Speaker 1: you just really enjoy it. Now it has to be 36 00:01:53,224 --> 00:01:56,024 Speaker 1: like essential watchers. That's our only rule here. It has 37 00:01:56,064 --> 00:01:58,624 Speaker 1: to be you like all of the movies. Yes, yeah, 38 00:01:58,664 --> 00:02:01,184 Speaker 1: So I'm going to kick it off because Laura and 39 00:02:01,264 --> 00:02:04,544 Speaker 1: I had a really great chat last week, and I 40 00:02:04,584 --> 00:02:07,184 Speaker 1: would be remiss if I didn't mention this because it 41 00:02:07,264 --> 00:02:08,144 Speaker 1: is so obvious. 42 00:02:08,864 --> 00:02:11,224 Speaker 3: I know, it's obvious. I know something that people can 43 00:02:11,264 --> 00:02:11,504 Speaker 3: be like. 44 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:15,184 Speaker 1: Oh God, but I genuinely love these movies, and it 45 00:02:15,224 --> 00:02:17,024 Speaker 1: is the Lord of the Rings franchise. 46 00:02:18,424 --> 00:02:23,104 Speaker 2: You're looking at, super obvious for some people. Really, I okay, 47 00:02:23,224 --> 00:02:26,344 Speaker 2: I have a confession. Okay, I'm scared when it comes 48 00:02:26,384 --> 00:02:28,984 Speaker 2: to the Lord of the Rings. I've watched one and 49 00:02:28,984 --> 00:02:29,824 Speaker 2: a half movies. 50 00:02:30,664 --> 00:02:32,384 Speaker 3: What do you mean one and a half movie? 51 00:02:32,424 --> 00:02:34,184 Speaker 2: Asn't I watched the first movie and then half of 52 00:02:34,224 --> 00:02:34,704 Speaker 2: the second. 53 00:02:35,544 --> 00:02:37,144 Speaker 1: Where's Laura? 54 00:02:37,384 --> 00:02:39,384 Speaker 2: I need Laura. I'm so glad I'm not saying this 55 00:02:39,424 --> 00:02:42,384 Speaker 2: while she's not here, because I know i'd getten a 56 00:02:42,384 --> 00:02:42,904 Speaker 2: lot of trouble. 57 00:02:43,144 --> 00:02:45,224 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you in on Laura's behind. 58 00:02:45,664 --> 00:02:48,424 Speaker 2: It's very disappointing, and I don't know why I keep 59 00:02:48,464 --> 00:02:50,024 Speaker 2: saying it, and now I don't know why I'm saying 60 00:02:50,064 --> 00:02:52,744 Speaker 2: it out loud on a podcast. But every person I've 61 00:02:52,744 --> 00:02:55,064 Speaker 2: told I've only watched one and a half movie is 62 00:02:55,104 --> 00:02:55,704 Speaker 2: a Lord of Rings. 63 00:02:55,744 --> 00:02:58,064 Speaker 1: Okay. It kind of shakes me that you stopped halfway 64 00:02:58,064 --> 00:03:01,584 Speaker 1: through two hours. I don't understand how you stop halfway through. 65 00:03:01,704 --> 00:03:05,224 Speaker 2: To be fair, the reason I stopped halfway through was 66 00:03:05,304 --> 00:03:09,424 Speaker 2: because there was a specific scene that moved me so 67 00:03:09,664 --> 00:03:12,464 Speaker 2: much I had to pause it to recollect myself, and 68 00:03:12,464 --> 00:03:12,784 Speaker 2: then I. 69 00:03:12,784 --> 00:03:14,424 Speaker 3: Just got which scene was it? 70 00:03:14,744 --> 00:03:16,984 Speaker 2: These are going to be spoilers, so yeah, I mean, if. 71 00:03:16,904 --> 00:03:18,704 Speaker 3: You haven't watched a lot of the Rings now like me, 72 00:03:18,864 --> 00:03:19,624 Speaker 3: Come on, if you. 73 00:03:19,624 --> 00:03:21,744 Speaker 2: Only watched half of Lord of Rings like I've we've scene. 74 00:03:21,824 --> 00:03:22,424 Speaker 3: Which scene? 75 00:03:22,504 --> 00:03:24,504 Speaker 2: It was? The scene? So you know, in the first 76 00:03:24,664 --> 00:03:27,704 Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings movie you think Gandalf. 77 00:03:27,144 --> 00:03:29,344 Speaker 3: Is dead, yes, at the end of it, yes. 78 00:03:29,144 --> 00:03:31,264 Speaker 2: And then in the second movie you see that he's 79 00:03:31,344 --> 00:03:34,864 Speaker 2: not dead. When that happened, it really because he was 80 00:03:34,864 --> 00:03:36,984 Speaker 2: my favorite character in the first Ian McAllen, like, I 81 00:03:37,024 --> 00:03:40,224 Speaker 2: love that man, He's amazing. And when I saw he 82 00:03:40,264 --> 00:03:42,384 Speaker 2: was back alive, I had to recollect myself. And then 83 00:03:42,544 --> 00:03:44,464 Speaker 2: I guess I still am recollecting. 84 00:03:43,904 --> 00:03:46,224 Speaker 3: Myself ten years later or something. 85 00:03:46,704 --> 00:03:48,664 Speaker 1: Okay, So the Fellowship of the Ring came out in 86 00:03:48,664 --> 00:03:51,544 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, so I think it's probably a 87 00:03:51,624 --> 00:03:54,384 Speaker 1: little bit generational. Yeah, because you're a few years younger 88 00:03:54,384 --> 00:03:56,984 Speaker 1: than me. So two thousand and one, I was eleven 89 00:03:57,064 --> 00:03:58,504 Speaker 1: years old. Was quite young. 90 00:03:59,144 --> 00:04:00,504 Speaker 2: Was that the prime age to watch it? 91 00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:02,784 Speaker 1: Though? I think I was on the young side to 92 00:04:02,824 --> 00:04:06,224 Speaker 1: watch it. I remember watching all the movies in theaters. 93 00:04:06,304 --> 00:04:09,344 Speaker 1: I loved them all, and I've come back again and 94 00:04:09,384 --> 00:04:12,664 Speaker 1: again to the Sea. I watched all the extended cuts. 95 00:04:13,144 --> 00:04:15,384 Speaker 1: You know, often with my family or a big bunch 96 00:04:15,424 --> 00:04:18,304 Speaker 1: of like everyone loves a bit of sci fi and fantasy. 97 00:04:18,984 --> 00:04:21,904 Speaker 1: My mom and my uncle like grew up reading Lord 98 00:04:21,944 --> 00:04:24,464 Speaker 1: of the Rings, the Hobbit, So that was like a 99 00:04:24,464 --> 00:04:26,304 Speaker 1: really big part of our families. So we would have 100 00:04:26,344 --> 00:04:28,704 Speaker 1: like family movie nights where we'd watch all three of 101 00:04:28,744 --> 00:04:32,864 Speaker 1: them and whatsoever it's on. I will always watch it, 102 00:04:32,904 --> 00:04:34,864 Speaker 1: And like, after talking about this, I haven't watched it 103 00:04:34,904 --> 00:04:35,624 Speaker 1: in a couple of years. 104 00:04:35,784 --> 00:04:37,384 Speaker 2: That's the best part about these kind of movies. I 105 00:04:37,384 --> 00:04:40,064 Speaker 2: just want to trigger such a cool memory that it 106 00:04:40,184 --> 00:04:42,344 Speaker 2: just feels so like wholesome and safe. 107 00:04:42,384 --> 00:04:44,744 Speaker 1: It's almost like in one of those series where I 108 00:04:44,784 --> 00:04:46,264 Speaker 1: wish that I could go back to watching it for 109 00:04:46,304 --> 00:04:47,584 Speaker 1: the first time again. Yeah. 110 00:04:48,104 --> 00:04:50,584 Speaker 3: And the fact that you haven't seen Return of the King. 111 00:04:50,664 --> 00:04:55,104 Speaker 1: Return of the King one Best Picture, Best Director, Like 112 00:04:55,424 --> 00:04:57,024 Speaker 1: it's like an Oscar winning movie. 113 00:04:57,424 --> 00:04:59,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I think even if you haven't watched 114 00:04:59,544 --> 00:05:01,784 Speaker 2: Lord of Rings, there are so many facts about Lord 115 00:05:01,784 --> 00:05:04,624 Speaker 2: of the Rings, you know, Like I know that the 116 00:05:04,704 --> 00:05:07,464 Speaker 2: three movies of Lord of the Rings they filmed at 117 00:05:07,464 --> 00:05:09,944 Speaker 2: the same time. I did so once after the other, 118 00:05:10,544 --> 00:05:13,344 Speaker 2: and from what I have seen of all of the Rings, 119 00:05:13,784 --> 00:05:16,184 Speaker 2: it does work really really well from the first movie 120 00:05:16,224 --> 00:05:18,104 Speaker 2: to the second movie, how it picks up straight after 121 00:05:18,624 --> 00:05:21,584 Speaker 2: and it's so seamless because they filmed it immediately after 122 00:05:21,664 --> 00:05:23,064 Speaker 2: so they all look the same age and. 123 00:05:23,024 --> 00:05:25,144 Speaker 1: So yeah again they film them all back to back. 124 00:05:25,224 --> 00:05:27,024 Speaker 1: It was two thousand and one, two thousand and two, 125 00:05:27,024 --> 00:05:29,384 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. In terms of release, they released 126 00:05:29,384 --> 00:05:30,464 Speaker 1: them one after the other. 127 00:05:30,544 --> 00:05:34,664 Speaker 2: Perpect we got back all the five years between each movie. 128 00:05:34,704 --> 00:05:36,344 Speaker 2: Each TV show's annoying. 129 00:05:36,104 --> 00:05:38,504 Speaker 1: I know. And considering the fact that this is like 130 00:05:38,704 --> 00:05:43,544 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. The CGI, the effects, the practical 131 00:05:43,544 --> 00:05:45,984 Speaker 1: effects that they did, you know, it really put New 132 00:05:46,064 --> 00:05:49,184 Speaker 1: Zealand on the map, obviously. Peter Jackson is a key way, 133 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:53,424 Speaker 1: you know, you can go visit Hobbiton in Aucklet in 134 00:05:53,504 --> 00:05:54,064 Speaker 1: New Zealand. 135 00:05:54,104 --> 00:05:57,424 Speaker 2: Pobertin is a big, big feature of a lot of 136 00:05:57,464 --> 00:05:58,944 Speaker 2: men's hinge dating profiles. 137 00:05:59,224 --> 00:06:01,744 Speaker 3: Is it really all right? 138 00:06:01,784 --> 00:06:03,504 Speaker 2: I know so much about that place? 139 00:06:03,704 --> 00:06:04,704 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 140 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:06,664 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, this is something that I think it 141 00:06:06,704 --> 00:06:09,344 Speaker 2: because of makes you look so big when you're there, 142 00:06:09,504 --> 00:06:11,424 Speaker 2: so they don't take photos in front of the door, 143 00:06:12,184 --> 00:06:14,704 Speaker 2: and it's just not They love it. The men love it. 144 00:06:15,024 --> 00:06:16,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I love. 145 00:06:16,304 --> 00:06:19,384 Speaker 1: All of the you know IMDb trivia. 146 00:06:20,144 --> 00:06:22,224 Speaker 2: The one fact where he really broke his foot when 147 00:06:22,224 --> 00:06:23,024 Speaker 2: he kicked that helmet. 148 00:06:23,144 --> 00:06:25,024 Speaker 3: So you actually know a lot about it. 149 00:06:24,984 --> 00:06:27,504 Speaker 2: I know, so you have to. When I watched the 150 00:06:27,544 --> 00:06:31,504 Speaker 2: movie so not part, it was amazing, like seeing all 151 00:06:31,544 --> 00:06:33,784 Speaker 2: the things that I knew about it, like actually happening 152 00:06:33,824 --> 00:06:35,464 Speaker 2: in front of my eyes, because I actually only watched 153 00:06:35,504 --> 00:06:37,944 Speaker 2: it like three or four months ago, so it's not 154 00:06:37,984 --> 00:06:40,704 Speaker 2: like I watched them years ago and haven't them. It's 155 00:06:40,744 --> 00:06:46,624 Speaker 2: quite recent. For the first time Silent, I was actually. 156 00:06:46,264 --> 00:06:48,664 Speaker 1: Just so shocked because I think I've watched all of 157 00:06:48,704 --> 00:06:51,504 Speaker 1: them at least three or four times age at least, 158 00:06:51,704 --> 00:06:53,384 Speaker 1: like this is this is like hundreds of. 159 00:06:53,304 --> 00:06:55,664 Speaker 2: That's gonna be my homework for this weekend. 160 00:06:55,984 --> 00:06:58,984 Speaker 3: I challenge you, if it's raining this weekend, please sit 161 00:06:59,104 --> 00:06:59,984 Speaker 3: and just watch them all. 162 00:07:00,144 --> 00:07:02,304 Speaker 1: Okay, you don't need to watch the extended ones. I mean, 163 00:07:02,344 --> 00:07:03,744 Speaker 1: the extended ones are very good. 164 00:07:03,624 --> 00:07:06,304 Speaker 2: But is it the same cast and the extended one. 165 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:09,384 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's just because Peter Jackson shot so much. 166 00:07:09,504 --> 00:07:13,424 Speaker 1: The extended huts are just additional scenes. So like for 167 00:07:13,544 --> 00:07:16,344 Speaker 1: the for example, in Fellowship of the Ring, I think 168 00:07:16,584 --> 00:07:19,864 Speaker 1: the original running time is like three hours and fifteen minutes. 169 00:07:19,904 --> 00:07:23,904 Speaker 1: They're long movies, but the director's cut I think it's 170 00:07:24,024 --> 00:07:28,304 Speaker 1: over four hours, so wow, it just extends the run time. 171 00:07:28,424 --> 00:07:30,264 Speaker 1: So it's a bit of an investment if you watch 172 00:07:30,304 --> 00:07:31,984 Speaker 1: them all back to back, but it is like very 173 00:07:32,064 --> 00:07:34,264 Speaker 1: worth it. But I think this had a lot to 174 00:07:34,384 --> 00:07:36,704 Speaker 1: do with Again, last week, we were talking a lot 175 00:07:36,704 --> 00:07:39,384 Speaker 1: about my Orlando Bloom obsession, and I think it really 176 00:07:39,464 --> 00:07:42,264 Speaker 1: started with he looks so young, and then well it 177 00:07:42,384 --> 00:07:44,904 Speaker 1: was his first ever movie, Like this is his breakout 178 00:07:45,064 --> 00:07:48,184 Speaker 1: role is legoless and it's not like a massive role. 179 00:07:48,504 --> 00:07:51,744 Speaker 1: Well it isn't in the first that much, but he 180 00:07:51,904 --> 00:07:53,544 Speaker 1: does have a lot more of a role in two 181 00:07:53,624 --> 00:07:56,504 Speaker 1: and three The King, which just not up to it. 182 00:07:56,624 --> 00:07:59,984 Speaker 1: Return of the King is like very Orlando heavy. Well no, 183 00:08:00,424 --> 00:08:02,784 Speaker 1: he's still supporting character, but you see a lot more 184 00:08:02,784 --> 00:08:03,384 Speaker 1: of the elves. 185 00:08:03,544 --> 00:08:05,144 Speaker 2: Okay, but yes, that is my. 186 00:08:05,264 --> 00:08:07,464 Speaker 1: First one, and we need to get em to watch 187 00:08:07,464 --> 00:08:08,744 Speaker 1: a Lord of the Rings. But do you know what 188 00:08:08,864 --> 00:08:12,424 Speaker 1: our producer Mon also hasn't seen it. Money, you're just 189 00:08:12,504 --> 00:08:14,064 Speaker 1: like me, So are you kept. 190 00:08:13,944 --> 00:08:16,304 Speaker 2: That very quiet while I've been getting like berated over here. 191 00:08:16,384 --> 00:08:19,704 Speaker 1: I do think it's a generational thing. Maybe I'm hoping 192 00:08:19,824 --> 00:08:25,144 Speaker 1: so because it really honestly, it is regarded as one 193 00:08:25,224 --> 00:08:28,024 Speaker 1: of the best trilogies on the planet. 194 00:08:28,144 --> 00:08:30,904 Speaker 2: If not like it is just if not these if 195 00:08:30,984 --> 00:08:31,824 Speaker 2: not the universe. 196 00:08:32,664 --> 00:08:32,864 Speaker 1: Ever. 197 00:08:34,904 --> 00:08:36,824 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I do feel bad. I need to go 198 00:08:36,944 --> 00:08:38,584 Speaker 2: back into it. I hate that, I confess that. 199 00:08:38,744 --> 00:08:41,144 Speaker 1: But even if you're not like a big like fantasy 200 00:08:41,264 --> 00:08:44,104 Speaker 1: nord like which I am, which is weird, Okay, well, 201 00:08:44,144 --> 00:08:45,384 Speaker 1: then I don't understand. 202 00:08:45,744 --> 00:08:47,824 Speaker 2: You know why I think it is. I think because 203 00:08:47,864 --> 00:08:50,704 Speaker 2: of the amount of law behind Lord of the Rings. 204 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:53,544 Speaker 2: And I think this is where sometimes when a franchise 205 00:08:53,624 --> 00:08:57,624 Speaker 2: gets too big, the fan base becomes an issue, because 206 00:08:57,824 --> 00:09:00,624 Speaker 2: I remember there was a specific time in my teenage 207 00:09:00,744 --> 00:09:04,344 Speaker 2: years where everyone was watching Lord of the Rings and 208 00:09:04,464 --> 00:09:07,264 Speaker 2: it became this big thing where especially the boys in 209 00:09:07,344 --> 00:09:10,664 Speaker 2: my high school, it was more like the Lord of 210 00:09:10,704 --> 00:09:14,184 Speaker 2: the Ring is so cool, like it's not for the girls. 211 00:09:14,344 --> 00:09:15,584 Speaker 2: It's not for girls, it's so. 212 00:09:15,864 --> 00:09:17,744 Speaker 3: Like, okay, it's for the falloy. 213 00:09:17,944 --> 00:09:20,144 Speaker 1: You felt like their fans were maybe excluding. 214 00:09:20,264 --> 00:09:22,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like when it becomes like so so big, 215 00:09:23,024 --> 00:09:24,904 Speaker 2: and it's like you can't just be a fan of 216 00:09:24,984 --> 00:09:26,624 Speaker 2: the movie. You have to be the best fan, like 217 00:09:26,664 --> 00:09:29,064 Speaker 2: the biggest fan. I think that's where it gets a 218 00:09:29,104 --> 00:09:31,264 Speaker 2: bit annoying. And I just pulled all the way back. 219 00:09:31,184 --> 00:09:33,624 Speaker 1: From I completely understand that. Look, I am not the 220 00:09:33,624 --> 00:09:35,584 Speaker 1: world's biggest fan of a lot of the rings. I 221 00:09:36,224 --> 00:09:37,184 Speaker 1: really love the movies. 222 00:09:37,224 --> 00:09:39,504 Speaker 3: I definitely go back and rewatch them over and over again. 223 00:09:39,544 --> 00:09:41,744 Speaker 1: But I do understand what you're saying where people kind 224 00:09:41,784 --> 00:09:45,824 Speaker 1: of start to gatekeep yeah, the franchise a little bit yeah, 225 00:09:45,904 --> 00:09:49,224 Speaker 1: and they keep you out of the loop, and I 226 00:09:49,384 --> 00:09:52,664 Speaker 1: think the fantasy genre does lend itself to that a 227 00:09:52,744 --> 00:09:57,424 Speaker 1: lot of the time. Let's go into your favorite Okay, 228 00:09:57,624 --> 00:09:59,664 Speaker 1: So the first one I want to talk about, and 229 00:09:59,824 --> 00:10:02,184 Speaker 1: similar to you, I'm digging deep into my childhood here 230 00:10:02,304 --> 00:10:05,944 Speaker 1: because this series it's also a trilogy. It's three movies 231 00:10:06,784 --> 00:10:11,544 Speaker 1: were the defining movies of my upbringing, and it's a 232 00:10:11,624 --> 00:10:12,784 Speaker 1: high school musical series. 233 00:10:22,264 --> 00:10:23,664 Speaker 2: You've never watched high school musical. 234 00:10:23,864 --> 00:10:26,584 Speaker 1: The first one I've watched a million times. But I 235 00:10:26,784 --> 00:10:29,584 Speaker 1: think I just got too old for two and three 236 00:10:29,624 --> 00:10:31,984 Speaker 1: because I never get that. That's actually fair because I 237 00:10:32,184 --> 00:10:34,624 Speaker 1: was on the CUSP for three the first one, I. 238 00:10:34,704 --> 00:10:39,264 Speaker 2: Last one, Zac Erasing, Vanessa Hudgens, Ashley Tisdale, Corbyn Blue. 239 00:10:39,584 --> 00:10:41,664 Speaker 3: Like me and my little brother would like listen to 240 00:10:42,464 --> 00:10:43,864 Speaker 3: the soundtrack together. 241 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:45,584 Speaker 2: Oh the sound is really good. 242 00:10:45,664 --> 00:10:47,704 Speaker 3: It was I think, get your head in the game, 243 00:10:47,824 --> 00:10:49,184 Speaker 3: got to get you, get you get you get your 244 00:10:49,184 --> 00:10:49,784 Speaker 3: head in the game. 245 00:10:49,984 --> 00:10:53,064 Speaker 2: I think it was like so my older older cousins 246 00:10:53,424 --> 00:10:56,864 Speaker 2: their version of high school Musical, and my parents mainly 247 00:10:56,944 --> 00:10:59,824 Speaker 2: as well was Greece, and like for me, it was 248 00:10:59,864 --> 00:11:01,944 Speaker 2: high school Musical because like I would watch Greece, and 249 00:11:01,984 --> 00:11:04,264 Speaker 2: Greece was one of those things where like my parents 250 00:11:04,264 --> 00:11:05,984 Speaker 2: would make me watch because I'm like, this is cinema, 251 00:11:06,144 --> 00:11:09,704 Speaker 2: this is good and it's so interesting because you can 252 00:11:09,784 --> 00:11:13,184 Speaker 2: so tell the difference between how movies were marketed for 253 00:11:13,784 --> 00:11:17,784 Speaker 2: teenagers in that time versus now, and like that time 254 00:11:17,904 --> 00:11:22,184 Speaker 2: it was like girls getting pregnant and all like bizarre, bizarre, bizarre, 255 00:11:22,184 --> 00:11:24,384 Speaker 2: and stuff like that's happening in high school Musical. The 256 00:11:24,464 --> 00:11:27,624 Speaker 2: worst thing that's happening here is that will you choose 257 00:11:27,744 --> 00:11:28,824 Speaker 2: basketball theater? 258 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:32,344 Speaker 1: Well, I think as well, because high School Musical franchise 259 00:11:32,424 --> 00:11:34,784 Speaker 1: is a Disney friend, it is a Disney franchise. Also, 260 00:11:35,424 --> 00:11:39,864 Speaker 1: whereas Grace is like they're talking about drugs and sex 261 00:11:40,104 --> 00:11:44,464 Speaker 1: and yeah, like it's a little it's a different And 262 00:11:44,624 --> 00:11:47,624 Speaker 1: also everyone in that movie was like thirty five when 263 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:50,624 Speaker 1: they shut it. Yeah, and actually I'm pretty sure Stockard 264 00:11:50,704 --> 00:11:53,424 Speaker 1: Channing was like thirty when she was supposed. 265 00:11:53,064 --> 00:11:53,864 Speaker 3: To be a high school lot. 266 00:11:54,304 --> 00:11:56,304 Speaker 2: It's so funny, but I think they also had to 267 00:11:56,304 --> 00:11:58,224 Speaker 2: be thirty five because like they could not get kids 268 00:11:58,304 --> 00:12:00,824 Speaker 2: to do Grace. Yeah, but High School Musical. So it 269 00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:04,144 Speaker 2: came out when I was around eleven years old on 270 00:12:04,304 --> 00:12:07,064 Speaker 2: Disney Channel, and it was around the time where Disney 271 00:12:07,184 --> 00:12:09,864 Speaker 2: Channel was like really leaning into the movie space, like 272 00:12:09,944 --> 00:12:12,824 Speaker 2: they had the diehard TV shows that everyone loved, and 273 00:12:12,904 --> 00:12:15,384 Speaker 2: High School Musical for me and my generation was the 274 00:12:15,464 --> 00:12:20,464 Speaker 2: first Disney movie that really like hit Blockbuster. And the 275 00:12:20,544 --> 00:12:22,904 Speaker 2: great thing about it was because it was on Disney Channel. 276 00:12:22,984 --> 00:12:25,304 Speaker 2: Disney was just racking in all of this money because 277 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,584 Speaker 2: it wasn't in cinemas, it wasn't anywhere else. The only 278 00:12:27,664 --> 00:12:29,744 Speaker 2: place you could get it was like off like some 279 00:12:29,864 --> 00:12:33,424 Speaker 2: illegal streaming side that someone filmed inside like their own 280 00:12:33,664 --> 00:12:34,104 Speaker 2: like TV. 281 00:12:34,384 --> 00:12:36,224 Speaker 1: I remember that your friend goes to Bali and they 282 00:12:36,304 --> 00:12:36,784 Speaker 1: come back with. 283 00:12:36,904 --> 00:12:40,664 Speaker 2: Like a camera of someone filming a screen and you're 284 00:12:40,824 --> 00:12:43,264 Speaker 2: just sitting in my cousin's room on her like desktop 285 00:12:43,304 --> 00:12:46,064 Speaker 2: computer watching it. It was just horrible experience, but like 286 00:12:46,184 --> 00:12:49,184 Speaker 2: so so fun And I remember watching it on Disney 287 00:12:49,304 --> 00:12:51,504 Speaker 2: Channel and they would have the Disney Channel ads in 288 00:12:51,584 --> 00:12:54,584 Speaker 2: between it and then because it was on Disney Channel. 289 00:12:54,664 --> 00:12:57,224 Speaker 2: They would just play the movie over and over again. 290 00:12:57,384 --> 00:13:00,624 Speaker 2: So I probably watched High School Musical like fifteen times. 291 00:13:00,744 --> 00:13:02,824 Speaker 1: Okay, but what about the second and the third one, 292 00:13:03,184 --> 00:13:04,544 Speaker 1: because I've never seen. 293 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:08,824 Speaker 2: Those cinematic so okay, the second one is I don't 294 00:13:08,864 --> 00:13:10,064 Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna be in trouble for saying this. 295 00:13:10,384 --> 00:13:12,024 Speaker 2: I think High School Musical two is better than High 296 00:13:12,064 --> 00:13:12,744 Speaker 2: School USICO one. 297 00:13:13,144 --> 00:13:13,784 Speaker 3: What's it about? 298 00:13:14,224 --> 00:13:17,664 Speaker 2: So the second one is whether all on summer break? Okay, 299 00:13:17,744 --> 00:13:20,224 Speaker 2: So it's like not in the actual school. They're all 300 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:24,384 Speaker 2: on this like really highly esteemed golf course that's owned 301 00:13:24,384 --> 00:13:28,064 Speaker 2: by Sharpay's dad, and they all have seen you probably 302 00:13:28,104 --> 00:13:30,944 Speaker 2: would it's the best one. They all get like summer 303 00:13:31,064 --> 00:13:32,304 Speaker 2: jobs at the golf club. 304 00:13:32,424 --> 00:13:34,584 Speaker 1: So I remember a golf course for some reason, I've 305 00:13:34,624 --> 00:13:36,744 Speaker 1: got zac Efron singing on a golf course. Yeah. 306 00:13:36,824 --> 00:13:39,264 Speaker 2: So zac Efron's like the caddy guy who like helps 307 00:13:39,304 --> 00:13:43,144 Speaker 2: the golfers. Vanessa Hudgens, who plays Gabriella, is like the lifeguard. 308 00:13:43,504 --> 00:13:46,064 Speaker 2: A lot of them work in the kitchen and then 309 00:13:46,104 --> 00:13:48,504 Speaker 2: they decide to do a musical at the golf club, 310 00:13:48,544 --> 00:13:50,784 Speaker 2: and that's where you really see tension between Troy and 311 00:13:50,824 --> 00:13:52,024 Speaker 2: Gabriella's relationship. 312 00:13:52,104 --> 00:13:54,064 Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't know, yeah, because they have to 313 00:13:54,184 --> 00:13:56,104 Speaker 3: like okay, and then the third one. 314 00:13:56,384 --> 00:13:58,744 Speaker 2: The third one is like the graduation, so it's like 315 00:13:58,784 --> 00:14:01,104 Speaker 2: the final year of high school. That's like where like 316 00:14:01,224 --> 00:14:04,104 Speaker 2: tension really rises because I like, which college are they 317 00:14:04,144 --> 00:14:06,144 Speaker 2: going to go to? Like what is especially like what 318 00:14:06,384 --> 00:14:08,544 Speaker 2: is Troy gonna pick? Is he gonna pick basketball? Is 319 00:14:08,544 --> 00:14:11,704 Speaker 2: he gonna pick theater? Is he gonna pick? Oh my god? 320 00:14:12,024 --> 00:14:14,664 Speaker 3: Okay, But like you're saying that this is something that 321 00:14:14,744 --> 00:14:16,704 Speaker 3: you go back to time and time again. 322 00:14:16,664 --> 00:14:19,544 Speaker 2: Yes, because like it's like what you said, like when 323 00:14:19,624 --> 00:14:22,184 Speaker 2: I think of High School Musical and I go watch it, 324 00:14:22,584 --> 00:14:25,184 Speaker 2: it's not really about watching the movies. It's about like 325 00:14:26,024 --> 00:14:28,704 Speaker 2: going back in time to that little girl. I was 326 00:14:28,784 --> 00:14:30,944 Speaker 2: like sitting in my parents' bed, like watching it on 327 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:34,304 Speaker 2: their TV in their bedroom, or for the second movie, 328 00:14:34,384 --> 00:14:36,664 Speaker 2: like being with my cousins and watching it all together 329 00:14:36,744 --> 00:14:39,464 Speaker 2: because we had this really annoying like family dinner we 330 00:14:39,504 --> 00:14:40,784 Speaker 2: all had to go to even though it was still 331 00:14:40,824 --> 00:14:42,624 Speaker 2: on Disney Channel. So I was telling my parents. I 332 00:14:42,704 --> 00:14:45,424 Speaker 2: was like, hey, just letting you know. High School Musical 333 00:14:45,504 --> 00:14:47,744 Speaker 2: two comes out on this date at this time, I 334 00:14:47,904 --> 00:14:50,344 Speaker 2: have to be home and watch it. And they're like, okay, 335 00:14:50,464 --> 00:14:52,624 Speaker 2: we got it. And then we had a family dinner 336 00:14:52,704 --> 00:14:53,784 Speaker 2: and they were like, you have to go to the 337 00:14:53,824 --> 00:14:55,584 Speaker 2: family dinner. And then I was messaging my cousin's like 338 00:14:55,584 --> 00:14:56,944 Speaker 2: what are we gonna do, and they're like, we'll just 339 00:14:57,024 --> 00:14:59,104 Speaker 2: watch it there at the family dinner, and we all 340 00:14:59,144 --> 00:15:00,784 Speaker 2: got to watch it because it was on Disney Channel. 341 00:15:00,864 --> 00:15:03,064 Speaker 2: We watched it live. And then the last movie was 342 00:15:03,064 --> 00:15:06,384 Speaker 2: the only movie they released in cinemas. So for my 343 00:15:06,584 --> 00:15:09,384 Speaker 2: thirteenth birthday, my mom bought me and all my high 344 00:15:09,384 --> 00:15:12,224 Speaker 2: school friends kids because we just entered high school we 345 00:15:12,304 --> 00:15:14,744 Speaker 2: were thirteen, and we all went to the cinema together. 346 00:15:14,744 --> 00:15:16,304 Speaker 3: Okay, so what's a nostalgia for you? 347 00:15:16,504 --> 00:15:19,704 Speaker 2: It's a nostalgia and it's just good, like every song hits, 348 00:15:20,104 --> 00:15:22,664 Speaker 2: every song is a fucking banger. Okay. 349 00:15:22,704 --> 00:15:24,544 Speaker 1: So I think that that's relevant even though it's not 350 00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:27,064 Speaker 1: winning Oscars. It is, like, it's a nostalgia thing for you. 351 00:15:27,184 --> 00:15:29,024 Speaker 1: And I have a lot of respect for movies like that, 352 00:15:29,144 --> 00:15:29,904 Speaker 1: even if they're not. 353 00:15:30,584 --> 00:15:31,344 Speaker 3: It's things that make. 354 00:15:31,744 --> 00:15:34,104 Speaker 2: Music should not be winning any Oscars, No. 355 00:15:34,264 --> 00:15:35,744 Speaker 1: I know, but it's just it's just so funny that 356 00:15:35,784 --> 00:15:38,544 Speaker 1: we went from Lord of the Rings to high school musical. Okay, 357 00:15:38,624 --> 00:15:41,864 Speaker 1: I love that this next franchise series is one that 358 00:15:41,944 --> 00:15:45,104 Speaker 1: we both agree on. Yes, yes, so we're going with 359 00:15:45,224 --> 00:15:45,944 Speaker 1: the Oceans. 360 00:15:46,424 --> 00:15:48,224 Speaker 2: The Ocean series. 361 00:15:48,864 --> 00:15:50,464 Speaker 3: I love these movies. 362 00:15:50,664 --> 00:15:54,504 Speaker 1: Now, are we counting because the original Oceans eleven movie 363 00:15:54,584 --> 00:15:56,944 Speaker 1: came out in nineteen sixty We're not counting that we're 364 00:15:56,984 --> 00:15:59,784 Speaker 1: talking about We're gonna know we're George Claning. Now, we 365 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:01,624 Speaker 1: know that that's the original, and we're not gonna try 366 00:16:01,624 --> 00:16:03,264 Speaker 1: and offend anyone. But I feel like we're not going. 367 00:16:03,184 --> 00:16:05,144 Speaker 2: To because it's going to be like really old because 368 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:06,824 Speaker 2: it didn't become a franchise, right, It was like the 369 00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:11,104 Speaker 2: original movie and then the remake happened and George Clooney, 370 00:16:11,344 --> 00:16:17,184 Speaker 2: Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Garcia Julia Roberts like Casey Affleck. 371 00:16:16,904 --> 00:16:20,144 Speaker 1: Like the massive, massive cast. That cast is honestly one 372 00:16:20,224 --> 00:16:23,984 Speaker 1: of the best casts. Yeah, you really can't really compare 373 00:16:23,984 --> 00:16:25,984 Speaker 1: it and the fact that it's like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, 374 00:16:26,344 --> 00:16:27,664 Speaker 1: Matt Damon all together. 375 00:16:28,224 --> 00:16:31,344 Speaker 2: So Steven bestie Ben Affleck missed out on that one. 376 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:31,584 Speaker 2: I know. 377 00:16:31,784 --> 00:16:36,304 Speaker 1: Steven Soderbergh directed it and it really is one of 378 00:16:36,384 --> 00:16:37,384 Speaker 1: the best. 379 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,064 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so so good. 380 00:16:39,464 --> 00:16:41,544 Speaker 1: And you know the seat like where they're getting everyone, 381 00:16:41,624 --> 00:16:42,584 Speaker 1: everyone has their. 382 00:16:42,624 --> 00:16:43,704 Speaker 2: Everyone has their stick. 383 00:16:43,904 --> 00:16:44,264 Speaker 1: I love it. 384 00:16:44,544 --> 00:16:46,944 Speaker 2: Yeah. So you get one guy who's really really good 385 00:16:46,984 --> 00:16:49,784 Speaker 2: at like pickpocketing, which is Matt Damon's character, and there's 386 00:16:49,824 --> 00:16:52,384 Speaker 2: a lifter, I think a lifter they call it, I 387 00:16:52,504 --> 00:16:54,944 Speaker 2: think so. And then Brad Pete and George Clooney are 388 00:16:55,024 --> 00:16:57,104 Speaker 2: like the head guys who like make it all happen. 389 00:16:57,664 --> 00:16:59,904 Speaker 2: And then I think Don cheedle Is in number two 390 00:17:01,224 --> 00:17:02,864 Speaker 2: is the first one and he does like the bomb. 391 00:17:03,344 --> 00:17:05,904 Speaker 2: He makes the bomb yep. And it's just like such 392 00:17:05,944 --> 00:17:09,664 Speaker 2: a good cast. And the car Elliot caoled Julia Roberts, 393 00:17:09,664 --> 00:17:12,624 Speaker 2: who's just like absolutely stuck. I think, like I had 394 00:17:12,664 --> 00:17:14,584 Speaker 2: a massive crush on Julia Roberts when I look at 395 00:17:14,584 --> 00:17:17,064 Speaker 2: that movie. But the best thing about these movies is 396 00:17:17,104 --> 00:17:21,504 Speaker 2: that it's so clever, so fast paced, and it's one 397 00:17:21,544 --> 00:17:24,944 Speaker 2: of those movies where they're talking so so fast and 398 00:17:25,024 --> 00:17:29,464 Speaker 2: the chemistry between each character is so well done. It's 399 00:17:29,504 --> 00:17:32,504 Speaker 2: hard to remember that you are watching people play characters 400 00:17:32,504 --> 00:17:35,024 Speaker 2: because it looks like they're just playing themselves. It is 401 00:17:35,144 --> 00:17:37,624 Speaker 2: really really well done, and I love the story arc 402 00:17:37,784 --> 00:17:42,264 Speaker 2: of the entire Ocean series because you have the first movie, 403 00:17:42,424 --> 00:17:44,464 Speaker 2: which is like their first heist where they rob the 404 00:17:44,544 --> 00:17:47,664 Speaker 2: casino in Vegas in Vegas, and then the second movie 405 00:17:47,904 --> 00:17:50,224 Speaker 2: is when they get found out and they have to 406 00:17:50,344 --> 00:17:51,104 Speaker 2: pay back the guy. 407 00:17:51,184 --> 00:17:53,784 Speaker 1: Yes, so Andy Garcia basically goes in and says, you 408 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:57,224 Speaker 1: guys need to pay all of this back. It wasn't 409 00:17:57,344 --> 00:17:59,464 Speaker 1: quite as successful as the previous one, but I still 410 00:17:59,464 --> 00:18:01,264 Speaker 1: think it hold. I still think it was a really 411 00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:02,304 Speaker 1: great movie. 412 00:18:02,464 --> 00:18:04,344 Speaker 2: And I think it counts because every time, and I 413 00:18:04,504 --> 00:18:08,304 Speaker 2: watched this series so so many times, because every time 414 00:18:08,384 --> 00:18:09,864 Speaker 2: I go down to sit and be like I'm just 415 00:18:09,864 --> 00:18:12,384 Speaker 2: gonna watch Ocean's eleven, I immediately have to watch twelve 416 00:18:12,624 --> 00:18:14,024 Speaker 2: and thirteen and then eight. 417 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:16,104 Speaker 3: Okay, so this is what I was going to ask you. 418 00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:19,944 Speaker 1: Now, I would say the Oceans franchise for me is 419 00:18:20,504 --> 00:18:24,784 Speaker 1: Ocean's eleven, Oceans twelve, Oceans thirteen. They are a standalone 420 00:18:24,824 --> 00:18:26,864 Speaker 1: and then it's almost like a spin off. 421 00:18:27,024 --> 00:18:27,664 Speaker 3: I would say. 422 00:18:27,544 --> 00:18:30,944 Speaker 1: Oceans eight, even though I know I actually really liked 423 00:18:30,984 --> 00:18:33,384 Speaker 1: Ocean's eight. I don't know why everyone hated on it. Oh, 424 00:18:34,264 --> 00:18:35,784 Speaker 1: I think that that's I love joy. 425 00:18:36,064 --> 00:18:40,024 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ocean's eight I think people went in hating it 426 00:18:40,144 --> 00:18:43,064 Speaker 2: before even watching it. And it was the announcement of 427 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:47,224 Speaker 2: these brilliant, brilliant actors who were all women doing an 428 00:18:47,304 --> 00:18:50,944 Speaker 2: Ocean's eight. That's a cast of all women, And immediately 429 00:18:51,024 --> 00:18:53,704 Speaker 2: everyone was like, this is going to be so bad. 430 00:18:53,784 --> 00:18:56,104 Speaker 2: It's all women. Why is everything getting remade with just 431 00:18:56,184 --> 00:18:57,624 Speaker 2: all women? Like it doesn't make it. 432 00:18:57,824 --> 00:19:00,384 Speaker 1: It was around the same time as The Ghostbusters, Yes, yes, 433 00:19:00,504 --> 00:19:02,304 Speaker 1: you're completely writers, around the time where they had the 434 00:19:02,344 --> 00:19:03,784 Speaker 1: all women's cast for The Ghostbusters. 435 00:19:03,864 --> 00:19:04,984 Speaker 2: Plus what's his name? 436 00:19:05,104 --> 00:19:07,144 Speaker 3: Chris Chris Emso, I've played the dumb pretty he was 437 00:19:07,184 --> 00:19:07,504 Speaker 3: so good. 438 00:19:08,304 --> 00:19:08,904 Speaker 1: I love it. 439 00:19:09,544 --> 00:19:11,504 Speaker 2: M should have been one of us is so bad. 440 00:19:11,864 --> 00:19:15,584 Speaker 2: But I think Ocean's Eight I absolutely love the premise 441 00:19:15,624 --> 00:19:18,384 Speaker 2: of Ocean's Eight, And similar to Ocean's Eleven, I think 442 00:19:18,904 --> 00:19:22,064 Speaker 2: every single woman in that cast worked so well together. 443 00:19:22,224 --> 00:19:26,344 Speaker 2: The chemistry was so well done. So Ocean's Eight is 444 00:19:26,544 --> 00:19:30,064 Speaker 2: in the same universe as Ocean's eleven. It stars Sandra 445 00:19:30,144 --> 00:19:34,704 Speaker 2: Bullock and her character plays George Clooney's character, Danny's sister. 446 00:19:34,984 --> 00:19:35,184 Speaker 3: Yeah. 447 00:19:35,384 --> 00:19:37,384 Speaker 2: You find out early in the movie that Danny had 448 00:19:37,464 --> 00:19:39,944 Speaker 2: passed away and she has just gotten out of jail. 449 00:19:39,984 --> 00:19:42,144 Speaker 2: She's also a criminal. They're from a big criminal family, 450 00:19:42,664 --> 00:19:45,504 Speaker 2: and her role is pretty much what George Clooney's role 451 00:19:45,584 --> 00:19:47,784 Speaker 2: is in The Ocean's Eleven, like getting the team together 452 00:19:48,224 --> 00:19:50,264 Speaker 2: to perform the big heist, and the big heist is 453 00:19:50,304 --> 00:19:51,144 Speaker 2: rubbing the met Gala. 454 00:19:51,304 --> 00:19:52,544 Speaker 1: I know, I love it. It's so good and like 455 00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:56,144 Speaker 1: Kate Blanchette Rehianna, Mindy Kayling, Mindy Kayling's in there like 456 00:19:56,304 --> 00:19:57,304 Speaker 1: it's soccer Fina. 457 00:19:57,584 --> 00:20:00,024 Speaker 2: It's so well done and had the way I loved it. 458 00:20:00,104 --> 00:20:02,384 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why everyone hated it. 459 00:20:02,624 --> 00:20:04,704 Speaker 1: I think it got way more hate than it needed to. Yeah, 460 00:20:04,744 --> 00:20:07,904 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it, But for me, I still she'd 461 00:20:08,104 --> 00:20:11,824 Speaker 1: love the first one the I think you know that 462 00:20:12,184 --> 00:20:14,784 Speaker 1: two thousand and one was Ocean's eleven, and I think 463 00:20:15,104 --> 00:20:18,224 Speaker 1: that was the first time we saw that heist movie. 464 00:20:18,824 --> 00:20:20,704 Speaker 1: It was also around the same time as like the 465 00:20:20,824 --> 00:20:26,264 Speaker 1: Jason Bourne movies. Yeah, these kind of heist like sexy criminals. 466 00:20:26,104 --> 00:20:28,904 Speaker 2: Sexy like high end, smart criminals. It's not just like 467 00:20:28,984 --> 00:20:32,424 Speaker 2: these group of like rubbing a bank. 468 00:20:32,584 --> 00:20:35,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, our criminals are protagonists and not the antagonists. Like 469 00:20:35,664 --> 00:20:38,824 Speaker 1: even though they're doing something bad and we want them 470 00:20:38,864 --> 00:20:41,744 Speaker 1: to succeed because we really like the characters and it's 471 00:20:41,744 --> 00:20:42,784 Speaker 1: like kind of sexy. 472 00:20:42,624 --> 00:20:44,944 Speaker 2: And how like Brad Pitt's just like eating in every scene. 473 00:20:45,264 --> 00:20:47,744 Speaker 1: Okay, So apparently because he was eating so much, he 474 00:20:47,864 --> 00:20:50,784 Speaker 1: was like being really sick. Oh god, because he had 475 00:20:50,824 --> 00:20:52,544 Speaker 1: to eat in every scene. And you know when you 476 00:20:52,624 --> 00:20:55,504 Speaker 1: shoot a movie, like you shoot the same scene over 477 00:20:55,624 --> 00:20:56,264 Speaker 1: and over again. 478 00:20:56,344 --> 00:20:57,384 Speaker 2: I mean, you just had to keep eating. 479 00:20:57,624 --> 00:21:00,504 Speaker 1: I remember one time I did a mcdonald'sdad, oh a 480 00:21:00,624 --> 00:21:04,184 Speaker 1: very long time ago. Yeah, And it was for this slurpy, 481 00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:05,584 Speaker 1: like a blue slurp. 482 00:21:05,624 --> 00:21:07,144 Speaker 2: How much slurpy did you drink. 483 00:21:07,344 --> 00:21:09,264 Speaker 1: By the end of the day. I think I probably 484 00:21:09,344 --> 00:21:12,704 Speaker 1: had like in fifteen, but I had to start speeding 485 00:21:12,744 --> 00:21:14,144 Speaker 1: them out. So I just had a bucket next to 486 00:21:14,224 --> 00:21:15,424 Speaker 1: me that I would start speeding them out. But I 487 00:21:15,504 --> 00:21:17,744 Speaker 1: was so sick by the end of it. The amount 488 00:21:17,784 --> 00:21:19,624 Speaker 1: of sugar. Oh my god, your tongue must have been 489 00:21:19,664 --> 00:21:21,904 Speaker 1: blue for weeks. Well, the whole thing was that my 490 00:21:22,024 --> 00:21:23,664 Speaker 1: tongue was blue. And I'd go to the boy that 491 00:21:23,704 --> 00:21:25,624 Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to and I got is and my 492 00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:27,784 Speaker 1: tongue is blue. And that's the whole That was the 493 00:21:27,824 --> 00:21:30,104 Speaker 1: whole ad cinema, right, there, but they had to put 494 00:21:30,144 --> 00:21:31,864 Speaker 1: like food diet on my tongue. 495 00:21:31,984 --> 00:21:34,344 Speaker 3: Oh god, it's and that I was like so sick 496 00:21:34,424 --> 00:21:35,104 Speaker 3: from the thing. 497 00:21:35,184 --> 00:21:38,064 Speaker 1: And they had like spit bucket and so that's what 498 00:21:38,184 --> 00:21:40,384 Speaker 1: they would have had, like I think had to spit. 499 00:21:40,544 --> 00:21:41,544 Speaker 2: I'm sure Brad Pit's fine. 500 00:21:41,744 --> 00:21:43,864 Speaker 1: I mean he's fine. This is like peak Brad Pit too. 501 00:21:44,344 --> 00:21:46,624 Speaker 1: It is peak Brad Pitt. Speak a lot of them, 502 00:21:46,984 --> 00:21:48,824 Speaker 1: like even George Clearly and my Damon. 503 00:21:48,624 --> 00:21:49,824 Speaker 2: Looks so good in this film. 504 00:21:49,904 --> 00:21:51,224 Speaker 3: George Clin was hot. 505 00:21:51,624 --> 00:21:54,704 Speaker 2: My god, Julia Roberts, count your dates. 506 00:21:56,664 --> 00:21:58,344 Speaker 3: We've got time for one more thing. 507 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:01,504 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm scared to say this one because I don't 508 00:22:01,504 --> 00:22:04,024 Speaker 2: want to get in trouble from our producer. Okay, I'll 509 00:22:04,064 --> 00:22:05,304 Speaker 2: say it. I'll take one for the team. 510 00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:05,584 Speaker 3: Okay. 511 00:22:05,664 --> 00:22:10,944 Speaker 2: So these movies. I was so obsessed to it. I 512 00:22:11,024 --> 00:22:13,064 Speaker 2: didn't watch them immediately when they came out. I watched 513 00:22:13,064 --> 00:22:14,624 Speaker 2: them around when I was fifteen years old, but I 514 00:22:14,704 --> 00:22:18,704 Speaker 2: became so crazy obsessed with I had posters in my 515 00:22:18,864 --> 00:22:22,784 Speaker 2: room of these movies. My phone case was this movie poster. 516 00:22:23,464 --> 00:22:25,904 Speaker 2: I had a birthday theme as a fifteen year old. 517 00:22:26,104 --> 00:22:28,584 Speaker 3: Okay with these movies, all right, don't hold back, what 518 00:22:28,784 --> 00:22:28,904 Speaker 3: is it? 519 00:22:30,064 --> 00:22:31,584 Speaker 2: It's part to the Caribbeans. 520 00:22:33,104 --> 00:22:34,184 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm acting stuck. 521 00:22:34,224 --> 00:22:36,584 Speaker 2: I knew what it was, but that was just read acting. 522 00:22:37,744 --> 00:22:39,704 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something, am, what do you know 523 00:22:39,784 --> 00:22:45,064 Speaker 1: what my ring tone was? And then then that was 524 00:22:45,184 --> 00:22:48,984 Speaker 1: my ring tone for like five years, Like I was upset. 525 00:22:49,064 --> 00:22:50,704 Speaker 2: We would have been such good because I learned to 526 00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:52,704 Speaker 2: play that on the piano, So that was like it 527 00:22:52,824 --> 00:23:02,544 Speaker 2: was a I made cinematic masterpieces out of a Disney 528 00:23:02,664 --> 00:23:04,584 Speaker 2: ride in Disneyland. Okay, insane. 529 00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:07,464 Speaker 1: My only issue with this is so, yeah, the reason 530 00:23:07,504 --> 00:23:09,144 Speaker 1: why we were scared to talk about this, Yeah, the 531 00:23:09,144 --> 00:23:10,824 Speaker 1: reason why we're scared to talk about it is because 532 00:23:11,104 --> 00:23:14,704 Speaker 1: our rule for this, Like I mean, they're self inflicted rules, 533 00:23:14,864 --> 00:23:17,464 Speaker 1: but the rule for this was that it was only 534 00:23:17,544 --> 00:23:19,584 Speaker 1: going to be where you could watch every single series 535 00:23:19,624 --> 00:23:22,624 Speaker 1: and they were really good. Yeah, but I would argue 536 00:23:23,424 --> 00:23:27,104 Speaker 1: that because there is like a really big gap in 537 00:23:27,264 --> 00:23:31,344 Speaker 1: these Pirates movies, that we can just slightly adjust our rule. 538 00:23:32,184 --> 00:23:35,624 Speaker 1: So two thousand and three Pirates Caribbean, Couse to the 539 00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:39,704 Speaker 1: Black Pearl, then it was two thousand and six was 540 00:23:39,784 --> 00:23:42,424 Speaker 1: Dead Man's Chest, and then at World's End was two 541 00:23:42,424 --> 00:23:43,624 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and. 542 00:23:43,704 --> 00:23:46,064 Speaker 2: Then we finished and then we went to sleep. 543 00:23:46,184 --> 00:23:48,664 Speaker 3: After that, it's twenty eleven, so that doesn't count. So 544 00:23:48,784 --> 00:23:50,864 Speaker 3: we ignore. We're just saying the trilogy. 545 00:23:50,984 --> 00:23:54,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, the trilogy. Every movie that happened after at World's 546 00:23:54,344 --> 00:23:56,544 Speaker 2: End I'm pretending didn't exist. 547 00:23:56,664 --> 00:23:59,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, once we get to on Stranger Tides, 548 00:23:59,624 --> 00:24:01,784 Speaker 1: we're not looking at that, and that doesn't And it also. 549 00:24:01,784 --> 00:24:05,864 Speaker 2: A different storyline completely. So the first, second, and third 550 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:08,904 Speaker 2: Pirates to the Caribbean movies is the same storyline with 551 00:24:09,024 --> 00:24:10,344 Speaker 2: the same core. 552 00:24:10,744 --> 00:24:12,984 Speaker 3: Orlando Bloom, Cure Nightley, Johnny Depp, and. 553 00:24:13,024 --> 00:24:16,304 Speaker 2: Then At World's End has a very definitive ending. It's 554 00:24:16,344 --> 00:24:18,304 Speaker 2: at World's End. It says it in the title. Ye. 555 00:24:18,664 --> 00:24:21,744 Speaker 2: So if you haven't watched Parish of the Caribbean, watched 556 00:24:21,864 --> 00:24:24,144 Speaker 2: those three films, nothing. 557 00:24:24,304 --> 00:24:26,224 Speaker 3: After that, Yeah, don't worry about the other ones. Just 558 00:24:26,304 --> 00:24:28,384 Speaker 3: ignore it. They just got a bit too excited. Yeah, 559 00:24:28,664 --> 00:24:30,064 Speaker 3: and they dis didn't need to keep it. 560 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:32,784 Speaker 2: I still think it counts, though, because I've watched those 561 00:24:32,864 --> 00:24:35,064 Speaker 2: three films over and over and over again. 562 00:24:35,264 --> 00:24:37,464 Speaker 3: I actually don't think the Curse of the Black Pearl, 563 00:24:37,544 --> 00:24:38,664 Speaker 3: the first one. I definitely have. 564 00:24:38,784 --> 00:24:42,784 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Rush icon it insane. The whole cast. 565 00:24:43,104 --> 00:24:43,304 Speaker 1: I do. 566 00:24:43,584 --> 00:24:45,864 Speaker 3: Actually Nightley is one of Kieran Nightley's first movies. 567 00:24:46,104 --> 00:24:50,464 Speaker 1: Yes, Orlando Bloom, Orlando Bloom, so this is just franchise again. 568 00:24:50,984 --> 00:24:55,064 Speaker 1: Legalless and Orlando Bloom were on my He's very beautiful 569 00:24:55,184 --> 00:24:58,384 Speaker 1: in the Parish of the Caribbean, He's really pretty. And also, 570 00:24:58,544 --> 00:25:01,304 Speaker 1: like you know, Johnny Depp's character, Like, I do feel 571 00:25:01,304 --> 00:25:01,584 Speaker 1: a bit. 572 00:25:01,584 --> 00:25:04,504 Speaker 2: Grossery watching Parts of the Caribbean because of Johnny Depp. 573 00:25:04,744 --> 00:25:04,944 Speaker 3: Yeah. 574 00:25:05,064 --> 00:25:08,784 Speaker 1: I think the thing is this particular character is so 575 00:25:09,224 --> 00:25:12,104 Speaker 1: iconic for him. Yeah, and the way that he was 576 00:25:12,184 --> 00:25:13,664 Speaker 1: able to kind of you know, how he took that 577 00:25:13,824 --> 00:25:17,064 Speaker 1: inspiration from Keith Richard's like, yeah, let's separate the man 578 00:25:17,144 --> 00:25:19,824 Speaker 1: in the art for just a second, because I get 579 00:25:19,904 --> 00:25:21,744 Speaker 1: what you're saying is I sometimes get a little bit 580 00:25:22,424 --> 00:25:23,544 Speaker 1: I feel a bit uncomfy. 581 00:25:23,904 --> 00:25:26,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, similar with like Brad Pitt in The Oceans movies. Yeah, 582 00:25:26,904 --> 00:25:30,384 Speaker 2: people that make you uncomfy watching your old school like favorite. 583 00:25:30,624 --> 00:25:30,864 Speaker 1: Yeah. 584 00:25:31,104 --> 00:25:33,984 Speaker 2: When I first watched Parts of the Caribbean movies, I 585 00:25:34,144 --> 00:25:37,864 Speaker 2: thought Johnny Depp was Captain Jack Sparrow, like because I 586 00:25:37,944 --> 00:25:40,064 Speaker 2: think he also embodied like I remember even seeing like 587 00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:44,624 Speaker 2: clips of him visiting children's hospital as like Captain Jack Sparrow, 588 00:25:44,744 --> 00:25:47,624 Speaker 2: and it just felt like that that character was him 589 00:25:47,824 --> 00:25:49,624 Speaker 2: and it was just like I thought that was literally 590 00:25:49,664 --> 00:25:50,944 Speaker 2: his personality as a person. 591 00:25:51,264 --> 00:25:54,064 Speaker 1: Well, it kind of was a little bit and that, 592 00:25:54,624 --> 00:25:57,624 Speaker 1: you know, bringing that Keith Richards being in and then 593 00:25:57,664 --> 00:26:00,024 Speaker 1: Keith Richard's being in the movies later down the line, 594 00:26:00,624 --> 00:26:04,024 Speaker 1: and then you know, think about like Jeffrey Rush's Bubbosa, 595 00:26:04,224 --> 00:26:07,184 Speaker 1: like that is against such an iconic character. Yeah, you know, 596 00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:10,104 Speaker 1: Orlando Bloomers, William Turner, he was like such a heart throb, 597 00:26:10,424 --> 00:26:10,784 Speaker 1: so hot. 598 00:26:11,304 --> 00:26:14,584 Speaker 3: And then Kieren Nightley in that corset, like the corset 599 00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:15,544 Speaker 3: saying that she faints. 600 00:26:16,064 --> 00:26:18,784 Speaker 2: They very much though, Like it's so telling with the 601 00:26:18,904 --> 00:26:21,304 Speaker 2: time that these movies came out and the period of 602 00:26:21,344 --> 00:26:24,104 Speaker 2: time that they were released. It is like, yes, you're 603 00:26:24,144 --> 00:26:27,224 Speaker 2: Kien Nightley and you spent like three months on this 604 00:26:27,344 --> 00:26:29,864 Speaker 2: ship with no shower, but I was still going to 605 00:26:29,944 --> 00:26:32,624 Speaker 2: have the most perfect hair and the most perfect makeup. Yes, 606 00:26:33,944 --> 00:26:36,224 Speaker 2: this is why, well everyone around you looks like trash. 607 00:26:36,464 --> 00:26:40,064 Speaker 1: Yes, suspending belief. That is the beauty of cinema is 608 00:26:40,144 --> 00:26:42,864 Speaker 1: you can suspend your belief. She's just got like the 609 00:26:42,944 --> 00:26:45,504 Speaker 1: perfect wave to her hair, I know, and even in 610 00:26:45,784 --> 00:26:48,424 Speaker 1: like the subsequent movies where she's like shipwrecked or whatever 611 00:26:48,504 --> 00:26:50,704 Speaker 1: and she's not wearing like a full corset anymore. 612 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:53,064 Speaker 2: She's still beautiful. 613 00:26:53,184 --> 00:26:53,584 Speaker 3: Amazing. 614 00:26:53,904 --> 00:26:54,264 Speaker 1: I love it. 615 00:26:54,584 --> 00:26:55,104 Speaker 3: I'm into it. 616 00:26:55,464 --> 00:26:57,744 Speaker 1: But look, I think that's one where we may have 617 00:26:57,824 --> 00:26:59,544 Speaker 1: broken our rules. But you know what the thing is, 618 00:26:59,984 --> 00:27:02,424 Speaker 1: it's this is our show. Yeah, we can tell and 619 00:27:02,464 --> 00:27:04,784 Speaker 1: we can do whatever we want. So back off, Yeah, 620 00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:06,944 Speaker 1: back off. Just watch the first three films. 621 00:27:07,064 --> 00:27:09,784 Speaker 3: Yeah, we told you. It's interesting though. It's so funny 622 00:27:09,824 --> 00:27:11,664 Speaker 3: that all of the franchises that we picked at. 623 00:27:11,624 --> 00:27:15,064 Speaker 1: All actually well it's all no, no, it's all the 624 00:27:15,104 --> 00:27:17,104 Speaker 1: two thousands, like early two thousands. 625 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:18,584 Speaker 3: There was nothing. 626 00:27:18,704 --> 00:27:19,944 Speaker 2: Something was in the water back there. 627 00:27:20,344 --> 00:27:23,584 Speaker 3: I think it's a nostalgia thing. I think nostalgia plays 628 00:27:23,624 --> 00:27:25,864 Speaker 3: a really big part in how much we like something. 629 00:27:26,064 --> 00:27:30,384 Speaker 2: I also think back then, especially with the franchises we chose, 630 00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:34,984 Speaker 2: it was very much felt like that these creators had 631 00:27:35,024 --> 00:27:37,944 Speaker 2: an idea of like this massive, massive story. And it's 632 00:27:37,984 --> 00:27:40,464 Speaker 2: similar to the Harry Potters, right, like you have a massive, 633 00:27:40,504 --> 00:27:42,704 Speaker 2: massive story that your only option is to break it 634 00:27:42,784 --> 00:27:46,024 Speaker 2: down into different movies, Whereas now it feels like franchises 635 00:27:46,064 --> 00:27:48,784 Speaker 2: are being made as like an easy way to make money, 636 00:27:49,144 --> 00:27:51,224 Speaker 2: so you have like a full movie, and then you're like, 637 00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:53,464 Speaker 2: should we make another movie or should we just make 638 00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:55,144 Speaker 2: the same one again and again and again. And I 639 00:27:55,224 --> 00:27:58,184 Speaker 2: think that's where franchises have kind of flipped the script, 640 00:27:58,224 --> 00:27:59,824 Speaker 2: and that's why I think they get such a bad 641 00:27:59,944 --> 00:28:03,104 Speaker 2: rap now, because the most recent franchises just feel like 642 00:28:03,184 --> 00:28:05,504 Speaker 2: a shortcut to making more money rather than like looking 643 00:28:05,544 --> 00:28:07,104 Speaker 2: at the big story as a whole picture. 644 00:28:07,224 --> 00:28:11,704 Speaker 1: I think that's basically where Pirates went after the third movie. 645 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:14,304 Speaker 1: They've just kept going and it was like, guys, you 646 00:28:14,384 --> 00:28:16,984 Speaker 1: need to stop. Just stop, please stop, stop stop it. 647 00:28:18,104 --> 00:28:19,704 Speaker 1: It's like the Fast and the Furious movies. 648 00:28:19,944 --> 00:28:23,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I love those. I love all of those as. 649 00:28:23,024 --> 00:28:25,064 Speaker 3: Well, though, No, but again, the first one was great. 650 00:28:25,184 --> 00:28:27,304 Speaker 2: I even love the spin offs like Sewan Hobbs. 651 00:28:28,304 --> 00:28:30,344 Speaker 3: I don't know, it loses me after the first. 652 00:28:30,384 --> 00:28:32,344 Speaker 2: The only thing that made me sad is when Vin 653 00:28:32,424 --> 00:28:35,424 Speaker 2: Diesel and the Rock had this massive beef and now 654 00:28:35,504 --> 00:28:37,024 Speaker 2: they can't work together anymore. 655 00:28:38,344 --> 00:28:41,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, look, there's some great franchises out there, Like, 656 00:28:41,504 --> 00:28:43,704 Speaker 1: let us know what your favorites are. Did we miss 657 00:28:43,744 --> 00:28:46,424 Speaker 1: any what is something that we should watch this weekend? 658 00:28:47,064 --> 00:28:49,584 Speaker 1: That's a franchise's franchise that gets all crazy. 659 00:28:49,664 --> 00:28:51,104 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I have to watch Lord of the Rings. 660 00:28:51,144 --> 00:28:51,944 Speaker 2: You do have to finish it. 661 00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,384 Speaker 3: I'm going to start watching it again. 662 00:28:53,664 --> 00:28:54,824 Speaker 2: You have to watch hous com Muy School. 663 00:28:54,944 --> 00:28:56,304 Speaker 3: I already seen it. I don't want to watch the 664 00:28:56,344 --> 00:28:58,384 Speaker 3: second and third one. You have to, Okay, I'll do 665 00:28:58,424 --> 00:29:00,464 Speaker 3: it for you. Only if you watch all three libraries 666 00:29:00,584 --> 00:29:02,624 Speaker 3: will Okay. That's a lot of homework. 667 00:29:02,704 --> 00:29:04,864 Speaker 2: Deal, It's fine, I can do it. 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