1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,544 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,584 --> 00:00:29,224 Speaker 1: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,304 --> 00:00:31,904 Speaker 1: Bredney and I'm Cassania Luke Kitsch and coming up on 7 00:00:31,944 --> 00:00:34,304 Speaker 1: the show, cha, we have a new leading man in 8 00:00:34,384 --> 00:00:37,624 Speaker 1: Hollywood and other box office, but no one knows who 9 00:00:37,664 --> 00:00:39,824 Speaker 1: he is, so we're going to get into that. Plus 10 00:00:39,824 --> 00:00:42,744 Speaker 1: that has been a scandalous new development in the Blake 11 00:00:42,824 --> 00:00:45,664 Speaker 1: Lively and Justin Baldoni lawsuit. We're going to get into that. 12 00:00:46,344 --> 00:00:49,344 Speaker 1: But first, there's no comfortable vibe in the studio today, 13 00:00:49,384 --> 00:00:50,024 Speaker 1: Mrs See. 14 00:00:49,864 --> 00:00:53,504 Speaker 3: Okay, Laura, buckle up because there is some news that 15 00:00:53,864 --> 00:00:57,704 Speaker 3: you are going to really hate and regular listeners of 16 00:00:57,744 --> 00:01:02,504 Speaker 3: the pod will understand this. Sony Pictures have just bought 17 00:01:02,504 --> 00:01:06,224 Speaker 3: the rights to a lub Booboo movie. 18 00:01:07,144 --> 00:01:07,544 Speaker 2: Look. 19 00:01:08,224 --> 00:01:10,504 Speaker 1: Part of me knows that the box office is and 20 00:01:10,584 --> 00:01:12,984 Speaker 1: distress at the moment. It's hard to make a dollar. 21 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:16,104 Speaker 1: We've got all different kind of movies coming out about 22 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:18,904 Speaker 1: toys since the success of Barbie. So I understand that, 23 00:01:19,344 --> 00:01:21,624 Speaker 1: but I must draw the line and actually going to 24 00:01:21,664 --> 00:01:22,824 Speaker 1: see a Laboo Boo movie. 25 00:01:22,864 --> 00:01:26,624 Speaker 3: We do have a special guest today with us, Chelsea. 26 00:01:26,824 --> 00:01:29,584 Speaker 3: This is our resident gen Z, because I don't really 27 00:01:29,624 --> 00:01:34,184 Speaker 3: understand the labooo obsession like you maybe do. 28 00:01:34,344 --> 00:01:36,224 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm too old for Chelsea. 29 00:01:36,424 --> 00:01:38,304 Speaker 4: You're never too old to get into La Booboos. I've 30 00:01:38,304 --> 00:01:39,464 Speaker 4: been trying to get Laura into it. 31 00:01:39,504 --> 00:01:42,184 Speaker 1: For now. I know all about laboo boo. Age is 32 00:01:42,184 --> 00:01:43,824 Speaker 1: not the issue here out of people in their fifties 33 00:01:43,864 --> 00:01:46,424 Speaker 1: who are ripping labuboos off other people. It's more just 34 00:01:46,784 --> 00:01:48,704 Speaker 1: you're either in it or you're out of it. And you, 35 00:01:48,824 --> 00:01:50,504 Speaker 1: my friend Chelsea, you're in it right and. 36 00:01:50,424 --> 00:01:50,824 Speaker 2: Well in it. 37 00:01:50,864 --> 00:01:53,544 Speaker 3: Okay, So the Labuobu movie, we don't have like an 38 00:01:53,544 --> 00:01:56,064 Speaker 3: idea of what the actual script's going to be just yet, 39 00:01:56,064 --> 00:01:57,944 Speaker 3: but we do know it's going to be a live. 40 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:00,664 Speaker 1: Action movie that is so much worse. 41 00:02:00,904 --> 00:02:02,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's terrify. 42 00:02:02,304 --> 00:02:04,944 Speaker 3: I think that's worse than like an animated feature. It 43 00:02:04,984 --> 00:02:07,064 Speaker 3: looks like it might be sort of at the end 44 00:02:07,144 --> 00:02:09,424 Speaker 3: of next year or early year after. 45 00:02:09,344 --> 00:02:14,344 Speaker 1: Global Warming do Your Thing comes out? 46 00:02:14,544 --> 00:02:17,504 Speaker 2: So we bought Chelsea on with her La Boo Boos 47 00:02:17,944 --> 00:02:18,584 Speaker 2: to give. 48 00:02:18,464 --> 00:02:21,184 Speaker 3: Us a bit of a rundown of why people are 49 00:02:21,184 --> 00:02:24,504 Speaker 3: so obsessed with them. Laura could not be sitting further 50 00:02:24,664 --> 00:02:26,864 Speaker 3: away from Chelsea if she tried. 51 00:02:27,104 --> 00:02:28,184 Speaker 5: She's allergic to them? 52 00:02:28,264 --> 00:02:28,544 Speaker 1: Yeap? 53 00:02:28,624 --> 00:02:30,784 Speaker 2: Okay, So Chelsea please explain to us. 54 00:02:30,824 --> 00:02:33,664 Speaker 4: I did bring them onto the pod because you think 55 00:02:33,744 --> 00:02:35,144 Speaker 4: you just need to see it to understand. 56 00:02:35,184 --> 00:02:36,424 Speaker 5: Would you like to hold one? 57 00:02:36,504 --> 00:02:38,304 Speaker 2: Sure? Okay, I'm also scared of them alone. 58 00:02:38,344 --> 00:02:39,664 Speaker 5: No, No, don't worry, Laura. 59 00:02:39,544 --> 00:02:42,384 Speaker 1: I'm not touching that because here's the thing. Here's the thing. 60 00:02:42,944 --> 00:02:45,144 Speaker 1: I don't care if people want to buy La Boo boos, 61 00:02:45,184 --> 00:02:47,664 Speaker 1: and I understand the craze. I've seen the lines. Sometimes 62 00:02:47,664 --> 00:02:49,344 Speaker 1: I had to walk a different way home because if 63 00:02:49,344 --> 00:02:51,984 Speaker 1: there's Labuo boos being sold in Sydney over the last 64 00:02:52,024 --> 00:02:55,104 Speaker 1: couple of months, the streets turn into chaos. People are 65 00:02:55,104 --> 00:02:57,704 Speaker 1: lining up to get them. I've seen people get them 66 00:02:57,784 --> 00:03:00,144 Speaker 1: ripped off in the street, people paying hundreds of dollars 67 00:03:00,144 --> 00:03:02,424 Speaker 1: for them. And look, if you want to attach a tiny, 68 00:03:02,504 --> 00:03:04,744 Speaker 1: furry little creature with a face to your bag as 69 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:07,584 Speaker 1: you do, and buy it outfits as you do, they 70 00:03:07,664 --> 00:03:10,344 Speaker 1: look demonic. And I do have this personal belief based 71 00:03:10,384 --> 00:03:13,104 Speaker 1: done nothing that one day the laboobuls will rise up 72 00:03:13,104 --> 00:03:14,904 Speaker 1: and take over the world. Anyone who has touched them 73 00:03:15,144 --> 00:03:17,384 Speaker 1: will die a painful death. And I have never touched on. 74 00:03:18,104 --> 00:03:20,064 Speaker 1: And I'm surrounded by labuobus all the time. I've never 75 00:03:20,144 --> 00:03:20,584 Speaker 1: touched one. 76 00:03:20,624 --> 00:03:23,504 Speaker 3: Okay, Laura, I think this comes from your trauma as 77 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:26,264 Speaker 3: a millennial, because a little bit early for us. But 78 00:03:26,624 --> 00:03:30,624 Speaker 3: you know, we're thinking about Gremlins. That's movie that Greanmlin's 79 00:03:30,664 --> 00:03:33,344 Speaker 3: movie from the nineteen eighties where you get them wet, 80 00:03:33,424 --> 00:03:35,704 Speaker 3: don't feed them, all of that, so we had that 81 00:03:35,744 --> 00:03:36,584 Speaker 3: as our trauma. 82 00:03:36,704 --> 00:03:40,184 Speaker 2: We also had the Ferbies of the late nineties. 83 00:03:40,264 --> 00:03:42,424 Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety eight is when the Ferbi came out, and 84 00:03:42,464 --> 00:03:44,784 Speaker 3: that is probably the closest thing I can think of 85 00:03:45,424 --> 00:03:46,424 Speaker 3: as related to a. 86 00:03:46,464 --> 00:03:48,384 Speaker 5: Labuoba Beni babies. 87 00:03:48,464 --> 00:03:51,184 Speaker 2: That was creepy. 88 00:03:51,624 --> 00:03:54,104 Speaker 1: That's not creepy. Can you explain to us, so, Chelsea, 89 00:03:54,224 --> 00:03:56,664 Speaker 1: So we haven't built fear of them, some more than 90 00:03:56,704 --> 00:03:59,344 Speaker 1: others me. But these things have like taken over the 91 00:03:59,344 --> 00:04:01,664 Speaker 1: world of late. Can you explain to us? And also 92 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:03,624 Speaker 1: just what they are because the other day I think 93 00:04:03,624 --> 00:04:05,784 Speaker 1: we forget sometimes people who have real jobs in real 94 00:04:05,824 --> 00:04:08,624 Speaker 1: lives don't know what these things are. I remember not 95 00:04:08,664 --> 00:04:10,144 Speaker 1: long a goy. I said to my sister and her friends, 96 00:04:10,144 --> 00:04:12,824 Speaker 1: who all work in the medical profession, something labooboo, and 97 00:04:12,824 --> 00:04:14,984 Speaker 1: they all said, what the hell is laboobo? I've never 98 00:04:15,024 --> 00:04:17,144 Speaker 1: heard of it. So I'm just saying it sounds common 99 00:04:17,144 --> 00:04:18,784 Speaker 1: to us, especially because I have to walk around them 100 00:04:18,784 --> 00:04:20,504 Speaker 1: in the office every day, but I think the average 101 00:04:20,504 --> 00:04:21,344 Speaker 1: person might not know. 102 00:04:22,064 --> 00:04:22,424 Speaker 2: Okay. 103 00:04:22,464 --> 00:04:24,984 Speaker 4: So originally they originallyd in twenty fifteen, there was like 104 00:04:25,024 --> 00:04:26,864 Speaker 4: a Long artist, so a long time. 105 00:04:26,864 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 1: They've really been around. No, they've been planning this for 106 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:29,264 Speaker 1: a while. 107 00:04:29,384 --> 00:04:31,224 Speaker 4: Yes, they've been planning their take over for a while. 108 00:04:31,544 --> 00:04:33,784 Speaker 4: So it was a Hong Kong artist casting Long who 109 00:04:34,304 --> 00:04:37,544 Speaker 4: originally illustrated them in like a children's book called The Monsters. 110 00:04:37,984 --> 00:04:40,064 Speaker 5: And then they kind of started to get a bit. 111 00:04:39,984 --> 00:04:40,864 Speaker 2: Of traction online. 112 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:43,224 Speaker 4: And that's when Popmark, which is that big change of 113 00:04:43,264 --> 00:04:46,144 Speaker 4: stores that does like blind boxes, toys, bag charms, all 114 00:04:46,184 --> 00:04:48,944 Speaker 4: that stuff, they did a collaboration and that's how this 115 00:04:49,184 --> 00:04:51,784 Speaker 4: labooboo as we know it in the blind box kind of. 116 00:04:51,784 --> 00:04:53,944 Speaker 1: She's holding her a pink booboo that looks like it 117 00:04:53,984 --> 00:04:55,984 Speaker 1: looks at his pink eye. It's deranged. 118 00:04:56,064 --> 00:04:57,544 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to pretend they didn't hear that. 119 00:04:57,584 --> 00:04:59,704 Speaker 2: I thought it's cute. I like the pink one. Yeah 120 00:04:59,744 --> 00:05:00,224 Speaker 2: it's cute. 121 00:05:00,504 --> 00:05:03,264 Speaker 5: Okay, so Popmark picked this up. 122 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:06,104 Speaker 4: And then the blind box element, I think is really 123 00:05:06,144 --> 00:05:09,544 Speaker 4: what took off, where it is a little bit like gambling, 124 00:05:09,584 --> 00:05:12,064 Speaker 4: where you'll perch a box you don't know which color 125 00:05:12,144 --> 00:05:15,024 Speaker 4: which one. There are kind of special, rare ones and 126 00:05:15,064 --> 00:05:18,504 Speaker 4: so people are lining up buying them and not getting 127 00:05:18,504 --> 00:05:20,344 Speaker 4: the ones they want, going back getting more, and it 128 00:05:20,624 --> 00:05:22,624 Speaker 4: becomes this whole thing. And then on boxing has become 129 00:05:22,704 --> 00:05:24,264 Speaker 4: huge online and its off. 130 00:05:24,264 --> 00:05:25,904 Speaker 1: I've seen many out Look. I've got to say I'm 131 00:05:25,904 --> 00:05:27,784 Speaker 1: a bit of a hypocrite because I'm terrified of lebooos. 132 00:05:27,824 --> 00:05:29,984 Speaker 1: I never touched one, but when if there's an unboxing 133 00:05:30,024 --> 00:05:31,424 Speaker 1: in the office of La Boo Boo, I do make 134 00:05:31,464 --> 00:05:31,904 Speaker 1: my way over. 135 00:05:32,024 --> 00:05:35,504 Speaker 4: Yeah, Laura's always, but I'd like to. 136 00:05:35,504 --> 00:05:37,744 Speaker 1: It's like watching a scene from a horror movie, like 137 00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:39,984 Speaker 1: a really intense horror movie, Like I don't want to 138 00:05:40,024 --> 00:05:41,264 Speaker 1: see it, but I don't want to miss out. 139 00:05:41,544 --> 00:05:44,184 Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough, okay, So what are your feelings 140 00:05:44,224 --> 00:05:46,344 Speaker 3: about this being a movie? 141 00:05:46,704 --> 00:05:49,824 Speaker 4: I love that You're right, we've got Barbie. They're doing pollypocket, 142 00:05:49,984 --> 00:05:51,984 Speaker 4: I think scratched. 143 00:05:52,224 --> 00:05:57,104 Speaker 1: But there are even Betty Weddy dolls getting a movie, 144 00:05:57,264 --> 00:05:59,384 Speaker 1: Matchbox cars, what do you call a thing that you 145 00:05:59,424 --> 00:06:02,304 Speaker 1: move around the different colors that's getting a movie. C Yeah, 146 00:06:03,064 --> 00:06:05,904 Speaker 1: it's literally every toy that you could potentially license is 147 00:06:05,944 --> 00:06:08,704 Speaker 1: getting a movie. Yeah, at least I guess labooboos have faces. 148 00:06:08,704 --> 00:06:10,904 Speaker 1: But if it's live action, will it be a horror movie? 149 00:06:11,264 --> 00:06:13,224 Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to do some kind of 150 00:06:13,264 --> 00:06:14,944 Speaker 3: like Gremlins thing. 151 00:06:15,864 --> 00:06:18,424 Speaker 4: No. I think it's going to be like a Pokemon vibe, 152 00:06:18,464 --> 00:06:20,144 Speaker 4: you know, with the Ryan Reynolds version, where it's like 153 00:06:20,184 --> 00:06:21,024 Speaker 4: live action people. 154 00:06:21,264 --> 00:06:23,424 Speaker 1: So kids now have to get laboo boos, but you 155 00:06:23,464 --> 00:06:25,824 Speaker 1: know there's going to be an evil labuo bo can't. 156 00:06:25,904 --> 00:06:28,664 Speaker 5: I can't, It'll curse definitely. 157 00:06:28,784 --> 00:06:30,184 Speaker 3: So the only thing I can kind of sort of 158 00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:32,864 Speaker 3: compare this too is I was never allowed to get 159 00:06:32,864 --> 00:06:35,224 Speaker 3: a Ferbie when I was a kid, but I borrowed 160 00:06:35,264 --> 00:06:37,224 Speaker 3: my friends one. I remember it was in my cupboard 161 00:06:37,344 --> 00:06:39,704 Speaker 3: and I was sleeping one night and it woke up 162 00:06:41,024 --> 00:06:45,544 Speaker 3: and it's scared the absolute but Jesus out of me horror. 163 00:06:45,624 --> 00:06:49,784 Speaker 3: That memory of that thing, like, I just it's really 164 00:06:50,144 --> 00:06:50,824 Speaker 3: haunting me. 165 00:06:51,304 --> 00:06:52,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, but why the. 166 00:06:52,424 --> 00:06:54,704 Speaker 5: Batteries though, So you know you're saying. 167 00:06:54,704 --> 00:06:57,784 Speaker 3: That's even scarier because when they wake up, you won't 168 00:06:57,824 --> 00:06:58,224 Speaker 3: even know. 169 00:06:58,744 --> 00:07:00,784 Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about them, Laura is 170 00:07:00,944 --> 00:07:01,464 Speaker 2: really not. 171 00:07:01,704 --> 00:07:03,624 Speaker 1: I just don't want to touch one that's my vine. 172 00:07:03,624 --> 00:07:05,144 Speaker 1: I don't want them looking at me, And I do 173 00:07:05,264 --> 00:07:07,304 Speaker 1: sometimes feel like I've seen them move on their own 174 00:07:07,304 --> 00:07:10,224 Speaker 1: in the office. Like I said, one has lunge towards me. 175 00:07:10,504 --> 00:07:13,664 Speaker 1: So I had to defend myself an umbrella. 176 00:07:14,384 --> 00:07:16,264 Speaker 2: What are the rarest ones? Like, what are the ones 177 00:07:16,304 --> 00:07:17,264 Speaker 2: that people really want? 178 00:07:17,384 --> 00:07:19,464 Speaker 4: There are just different colored ones. For instance, I'm holding 179 00:07:19,464 --> 00:07:21,664 Speaker 4: like a light blue one in that collection, there's different colors, 180 00:07:21,664 --> 00:07:23,784 Speaker 4: but the dark brown one there's only like I don't 181 00:07:23,824 --> 00:07:26,184 Speaker 4: know how many, but like every twelve boxes there might 182 00:07:26,224 --> 00:07:26,584 Speaker 4: be one. 183 00:07:26,624 --> 00:07:27,984 Speaker 5: So it's like rare, so people buy. 184 00:07:28,104 --> 00:07:30,824 Speaker 1: So some labooboos are better than others based on how 185 00:07:30,864 --> 00:07:33,224 Speaker 1: they Look's the system. Maybe it'll be the theme of 186 00:07:33,224 --> 00:07:34,984 Speaker 1: the movie. It'll be like the habs and the have 187 00:07:35,104 --> 00:07:37,984 Speaker 1: nots of labooboos, and it'll teach us something about judging 188 00:07:37,984 --> 00:07:44,064 Speaker 1: people by the look and racial differences. And yeah, Jesus, 189 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:45,744 Speaker 1: you know what I don't want is to be taught 190 00:07:45,784 --> 00:07:47,864 Speaker 1: a less than about humanity from a Labuobu movie. 191 00:07:47,904 --> 00:07:48,544 Speaker 2: I would love that. 192 00:07:48,544 --> 00:07:49,224 Speaker 5: That's my dream. 193 00:07:49,464 --> 00:07:51,784 Speaker 3: Well, Chelsea, thank you so much for spending your time 194 00:07:51,864 --> 00:07:54,584 Speaker 3: today and giving us the lowdown on the Labobu. 195 00:07:54,744 --> 00:07:55,104 Speaker 1: Thank you. 196 00:07:55,184 --> 00:07:57,944 Speaker 2: Do they all come as bag charms? I'm confused. 197 00:07:58,264 --> 00:08:00,384 Speaker 4: Yes, all the plushy ones come with bag charms so 198 00:08:00,384 --> 00:08:02,064 Speaker 4: you can put them on your bags. But they also 199 00:08:02,104 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 4: do have like hard figurines that you can just so. 200 00:08:05,464 --> 00:08:08,904 Speaker 1: Chelsea changes labooboos on her bags depending on how how 201 00:08:09,184 --> 00:08:09,544 Speaker 1: do you have. 202 00:08:10,584 --> 00:08:13,064 Speaker 4: I think I've got five, but I do every time 203 00:08:13,104 --> 00:08:14,424 Speaker 4: I bring them in, I take them off my. 204 00:08:14,344 --> 00:08:16,064 Speaker 5: Bag and I make them way a bit Laura. 205 00:08:16,744 --> 00:08:18,384 Speaker 1: And it freaks me out of it and we are 206 00:08:18,384 --> 00:08:20,024 Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about that. And she puts 207 00:08:20,024 --> 00:08:22,024 Speaker 1: them in different outfits too. So I'm just saying, this 208 00:08:22,104 --> 00:08:24,504 Speaker 1: is a huge craze that's not going away. So, like, 209 00:08:24,584 --> 00:08:27,144 Speaker 1: this movie sounds ridiculous, Yeah, but I bet you it 210 00:08:27,184 --> 00:08:28,544 Speaker 1: will do big, big money. I think it. 211 00:08:29,024 --> 00:08:31,104 Speaker 4: And I also think the whole thing, like whether it's 212 00:08:31,104 --> 00:08:33,224 Speaker 4: like La Boo Boo's the movie, it really ties into 213 00:08:33,264 --> 00:08:35,064 Speaker 4: this nostalgia thing everyone's. 214 00:08:34,664 --> 00:08:36,864 Speaker 1: Just wanting to They've really bloorn up this year. 215 00:08:37,184 --> 00:08:39,904 Speaker 4: No, but the idea of like trinkets and little things, 216 00:08:39,904 --> 00:08:41,304 Speaker 4: like people are really goodmick. 217 00:08:41,384 --> 00:08:42,944 Speaker 5: They love a gimmick. We're like, we. 218 00:08:42,864 --> 00:08:45,184 Speaker 4: Want something that ties us to childhood. Like they're not 219 00:08:45,184 --> 00:08:46,944 Speaker 4: that expensive. They're like thirty two dollars for. 220 00:08:46,904 --> 00:08:48,704 Speaker 1: One we once she had five or six or ten 221 00:08:48,824 --> 00:08:49,224 Speaker 1: or twenty. 222 00:08:49,384 --> 00:08:51,584 Speaker 2: Yes, true, but then don't they sell on the black 223 00:08:51,584 --> 00:08:52,544 Speaker 2: market for one hundreds? 224 00:08:52,624 --> 00:08:52,824 Speaker 1: Yes? 225 00:08:53,024 --> 00:08:55,144 Speaker 4: So another thing is because there's a scarcity about it. 226 00:08:55,144 --> 00:08:57,184 Speaker 4: They're very rare because they do a restock. They do 227 00:08:57,264 --> 00:08:59,104 Speaker 4: this on purpose, They only restock a certain amount. 228 00:08:59,144 --> 00:09:00,384 Speaker 5: They sell out really. 229 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:01,944 Speaker 4: Fast, so that's why people are lining up sort of 230 00:09:01,984 --> 00:09:03,184 Speaker 4: like around the block to get them. 231 00:09:03,224 --> 00:09:04,784 Speaker 5: And that's kind of the allure as well. 232 00:09:05,224 --> 00:09:05,504 Speaker 2: Sorry. 233 00:09:05,544 --> 00:09:07,784 Speaker 3: One quine of question before we let you go, what 234 00:09:07,824 --> 00:09:10,344 Speaker 3: are the fake laboo boos? Like, what are these luofoos 235 00:09:10,864 --> 00:09:11,664 Speaker 3: lo foo foods? 236 00:09:11,704 --> 00:09:11,944 Speaker 4: Yes? 237 00:09:12,144 --> 00:09:15,384 Speaker 2: What are they? Their little booboo's counterfeits? 238 00:09:15,544 --> 00:09:16,664 Speaker 5: Yes, counterfeit once. 239 00:09:16,744 --> 00:09:18,424 Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll be in the movie, like they'll 240 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:20,184 Speaker 1: have a little secret society or they live in the 241 00:09:20,224 --> 00:09:22,024 Speaker 1: mountains and they want a joy with all of the boobies. 242 00:09:22,064 --> 00:09:24,504 Speaker 4: It does run it them exactly, see it does, right, 243 00:09:24,184 --> 00:09:26,144 Speaker 4: itself a little. 244 00:09:25,904 --> 00:09:28,624 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that brilliot reviewing coming soon. I won't 245 00:09:28,624 --> 00:09:32,864 Speaker 1: be on it, I'll be back. So we have a 246 00:09:32,864 --> 00:09:36,464 Speaker 1: new leading man in Hollywood in twenty twenty five, one 247 00:09:36,464 --> 00:09:39,104 Speaker 1: who has had a bit of unprecedented success this year 248 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:41,104 Speaker 1: because it's been a rough time with the box office. 249 00:09:41,224 --> 00:09:44,224 Speaker 1: We know that there's been a lot of huge movies 250 00:09:44,264 --> 00:09:47,904 Speaker 1: that have come out this year, Thunderbolts, snow White, even 251 00:09:47,904 --> 00:09:50,464 Speaker 1: the newest Mission Impossible, who have underperformed at the box 252 00:09:50,504 --> 00:09:53,624 Speaker 1: office to vary degrees. So even if you're an established 253 00:09:53,624 --> 00:09:56,144 Speaker 1: movie star and an established franchise, it's hard to have 254 00:09:56,144 --> 00:09:58,704 Speaker 1: a hit nowadays. Yeah, unless you're this young man who 255 00:09:58,744 --> 00:10:02,144 Speaker 1: has had three of the highest grossing movies in the 256 00:10:02,184 --> 00:10:05,184 Speaker 1: box office, been the star of them, and been back 257 00:10:05,224 --> 00:10:06,744 Speaker 1: to back in all of these movies. 258 00:10:06,904 --> 00:10:09,184 Speaker 3: Okay, so Laura, this has been kept under lock, and 259 00:10:09,264 --> 00:10:11,544 Speaker 3: k you have not told who this leading man was 260 00:10:11,584 --> 00:10:14,944 Speaker 3: and gave me striction instructions not to search this because 261 00:10:15,064 --> 00:10:17,424 Speaker 3: I'm like really curious now because I was like, Okay, 262 00:10:17,424 --> 00:10:18,784 Speaker 3: it's just like the Rock or something. 263 00:10:19,104 --> 00:10:21,464 Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm always interested in like how box office 264 00:10:21,544 --> 00:10:23,664 Speaker 1: numbers are going and how movies are going in which 265 00:10:23,904 --> 00:10:26,104 Speaker 1: people are in movies that are doing well. And when 266 00:10:26,104 --> 00:10:28,384 Speaker 1: I saw this young man's name and I was like, oh, 267 00:10:28,584 --> 00:10:31,264 Speaker 1: he's one of nearly the highest grossing actors of twenty 268 00:10:31,304 --> 00:10:34,104 Speaker 1: twenty five, he said, the biggest box office success and 269 00:10:34,184 --> 00:10:37,064 Speaker 1: consecutive success. And I'm just like, I just don't think 270 00:10:37,104 --> 00:10:39,504 Speaker 1: anyone knows who he is. So do you know who 271 00:10:39,504 --> 00:10:40,304 Speaker 1: this young man is? 272 00:10:40,744 --> 00:10:43,784 Speaker 2: I have no idea who he is? So who is that? 273 00:10:43,784 --> 00:10:45,744 Speaker 1: That is one of the highest grossing stars of twenty 274 00:10:45,744 --> 00:10:47,784 Speaker 1: two to five? That is it? I'm doing ads for him. 275 00:10:47,824 --> 00:10:48,504 Speaker 1: I'm not a bust. 276 00:10:48,544 --> 00:10:48,984 Speaker 2: Who's that? 277 00:10:49,144 --> 00:10:52,584 Speaker 1: It's Mason tains Who Mason Tames? Yeah? 278 00:10:52,584 --> 00:10:55,304 Speaker 2: Exactly, Okay, sorry? Who is Mason Tane? 279 00:10:55,384 --> 00:10:58,704 Speaker 1: So Mason is eighteen years old, if you can believe it. 280 00:10:59,144 --> 00:11:01,664 Speaker 1: And in this year he has starred in three movies 281 00:11:01,704 --> 00:11:03,344 Speaker 1: that have made a huge amount of money in the 282 00:11:03,344 --> 00:11:05,744 Speaker 1: box office, How to Train Your Drag and The Live Action. 283 00:11:05,944 --> 00:11:09,104 Speaker 1: He's the lead in that cute Black Phone two, which 284 00:11:09,184 --> 00:11:12,384 Speaker 1: is actually a sequel to his big breakout roles see 285 00:11:12,384 --> 00:11:15,504 Speaker 1: Black Phone when it came out in twenty twenty two, 286 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:17,504 Speaker 1: and it was that horror film and he's the lead 287 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:20,184 Speaker 1: in it. It's about this like young twein boy who 288 00:11:20,264 --> 00:11:22,584 Speaker 1: gets like taken by this the man staying in the 289 00:11:22,584 --> 00:11:25,304 Speaker 1: long coat with the top pat and I don't holding 290 00:11:25,344 --> 00:11:28,984 Speaker 1: the balloons. Yeah, I love horror. I honestly I didn't 291 00:11:29,024 --> 00:11:30,944 Speaker 1: love this movie only because I found it quite crazy. 292 00:11:30,984 --> 00:11:33,064 Speaker 3: It reminds me of that movie and forgetting Sarah Marshall 293 00:11:33,104 --> 00:11:35,864 Speaker 3: that Sarah Marshall plays where the phone's attack car. 294 00:11:36,024 --> 00:11:38,024 Speaker 1: Oh, that's different because that's about technology. This is like 295 00:11:38,064 --> 00:11:38,984 Speaker 1: you're just an old school fan. 296 00:11:39,024 --> 00:11:41,024 Speaker 3: Okay, it's more about a kid being That's what my 297 00:11:41,304 --> 00:11:43,104 Speaker 3: mind went to when he said black phone. 298 00:11:43,264 --> 00:11:44,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is more about a kid being taken by 299 00:11:44,984 --> 00:11:47,344 Speaker 1: a demon. So he starred in the sequels that did 300 00:11:47,344 --> 00:11:49,824 Speaker 1: really well, and he was also the lead in the 301 00:11:49,944 --> 00:11:55,064 Speaker 1: new a Colleen Hoover adaptation Regretting You, Yeah, which did 302 00:11:55,144 --> 00:11:57,064 Speaker 1: really well. This one did really one did well. This 303 00:11:57,104 --> 00:11:57,584 Speaker 1: one did well. 304 00:11:57,864 --> 00:12:00,904 Speaker 3: Okay, so what's he in next? I don't know anything 305 00:12:00,904 --> 00:12:02,224 Speaker 3: about him. You're gonna have to give me like a 306 00:12:02,504 --> 00:12:03,584 Speaker 3: question of coming roles. 307 00:12:03,584 --> 00:12:05,864 Speaker 1: But I think it's more so just kind of interesting. 308 00:12:06,224 --> 00:12:08,224 Speaker 1: When I saw that, I was like, oh, box office 309 00:12:08,304 --> 00:12:12,744 Speaker 1: numbers used to be really hied to a very established 310 00:12:12,784 --> 00:12:15,744 Speaker 1: star and you would have to spend a long time 311 00:12:15,824 --> 00:12:18,264 Speaker 1: getting an up and coming star to be able to 312 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:20,824 Speaker 1: open a box office. And I just think it's interesting 313 00:12:20,864 --> 00:12:22,904 Speaker 1: that if I said Mason Thames to you, or pretty 314 00:12:22,944 --> 00:12:25,744 Speaker 1: much most people as well, most people wouldn't know. He's 315 00:12:25,784 --> 00:12:27,824 Speaker 1: one of those actors that is quite big on TikTok 316 00:12:27,864 --> 00:12:30,104 Speaker 1: and has not that he posts on TikTok a lot, 317 00:12:30,144 --> 00:12:33,144 Speaker 1: but his like name's always trending, especially since he and 318 00:12:33,224 --> 00:12:36,104 Speaker 1: he's regarding you co star McKenna Grace. Do you see this? 319 00:12:36,144 --> 00:12:40,104 Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, met making the movie and they play 320 00:12:40,144 --> 00:12:44,304 Speaker 1: these star cross teenagers where she's like the young girl 321 00:12:44,344 --> 00:12:46,264 Speaker 1: at school who's wanting to be an actress, and he's 322 00:12:46,304 --> 00:12:48,144 Speaker 1: like the cutest boy in school. But it's kind of 323 00:12:48,184 --> 00:12:49,504 Speaker 1: like a bit you know, which isn't really know much 324 00:12:49,504 --> 00:12:52,024 Speaker 1: about him, like the cool guy, and then they fall 325 00:12:52,064 --> 00:12:54,184 Speaker 1: in love and have this kind of like epic romance. 326 00:12:54,624 --> 00:12:55,864 Speaker 2: So is he is he American? 327 00:12:56,104 --> 00:12:56,144 Speaker 4: Is? 328 00:12:56,224 --> 00:12:58,824 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, he's American, And so they've been dating all 329 00:12:58,864 --> 00:13:00,704 Speaker 1: they haven't said it's that kind of really upped the 330 00:13:01,224 --> 00:13:03,664 Speaker 1: intrigue around him. But it's more so I think he's 331 00:13:03,704 --> 00:13:06,624 Speaker 1: just attached himself to the right franchises because how to 332 00:13:06,664 --> 00:13:09,904 Speaker 1: train your dragon obviously that was such a huge moment 333 00:13:09,944 --> 00:13:12,504 Speaker 1: when that animated movie came out. It's one of those 334 00:13:12,504 --> 00:13:15,704 Speaker 1: ones where the live action felt by fans like it 335 00:13:15,744 --> 00:13:18,424 Speaker 1: was really needed and wanted, like it didn't feel like 336 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:21,504 Speaker 1: it was just re treading old ground. So that did 337 00:13:21,624 --> 00:13:24,224 Speaker 1: crazy numbers at the box office. And because he was 338 00:13:24,264 --> 00:13:26,184 Speaker 1: the lead in that, that kind of ricocheted him into 339 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:28,664 Speaker 1: this other level of fame. And also the fact that 340 00:13:28,664 --> 00:13:30,984 Speaker 1: Black Phone was such a huge hit when it came 341 00:13:31,024 --> 00:13:33,864 Speaker 1: out and he was able to be in the sequel, 342 00:13:33,904 --> 00:13:38,744 Speaker 1: but also then starring in like a romance drama book 343 00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:42,704 Speaker 1: to film adaptation, in something that would have been seen 344 00:13:42,824 --> 00:13:45,184 Speaker 1: in other actors like maybe a little bit below him. 345 00:13:45,864 --> 00:13:49,384 Speaker 1: How like Timothy Chalamy is like really intense about picking 346 00:13:49,424 --> 00:13:52,624 Speaker 1: his roles, And he said that Leonardo DiCaprio gave him 347 00:13:52,624 --> 00:13:54,704 Speaker 1: the advice of like never do hard drugs and never 348 00:13:54,744 --> 00:13:59,464 Speaker 1: being a superhero movie, and he's really stuck to that. Yeah. 349 00:13:59,504 --> 00:14:02,184 Speaker 1: And when he said hard drugs, I think he means 350 00:14:02,224 --> 00:14:04,784 Speaker 1: like a drug that like stops you from working, like 351 00:14:04,824 --> 00:14:08,024 Speaker 1: basketball diaries, not like a not like a party drug, 352 00:14:08,064 --> 00:14:09,864 Speaker 1: which I do believe he's probably fine. 353 00:14:09,704 --> 00:14:10,704 Speaker 2: With those, yep. 354 00:14:11,064 --> 00:14:12,544 Speaker 1: And he didn't say it out loud. But I do 355 00:14:12,584 --> 00:14:15,584 Speaker 1: think those books to film adaptation of especially books that 356 00:14:15,624 --> 00:14:18,704 Speaker 1: are really geared towards female readers. A lot of men 357 00:14:18,744 --> 00:14:20,904 Speaker 1: who are just like, I'm going to be a serious actor, 358 00:14:20,944 --> 00:14:23,384 Speaker 1: I'm going to win awards, like, really stay away from those. 359 00:14:23,664 --> 00:14:26,264 Speaker 1: But then it up to his box office success, which 360 00:14:26,304 --> 00:14:28,504 Speaker 1: has only made him one of the most bankable stars 361 00:14:28,504 --> 00:14:28,944 Speaker 1: in the world. 362 00:14:28,984 --> 00:14:32,184 Speaker 3: It's really interesting though, seeing this like next generation of 363 00:14:32,224 --> 00:14:35,384 Speaker 3: Hollywood sort of coming up, and I all of a 364 00:14:35,424 --> 00:14:39,224 Speaker 3: sudden feel very elderly when I see them because eighteen. 365 00:14:38,824 --> 00:14:40,304 Speaker 2: What year was he born? 366 00:14:40,504 --> 00:14:41,144 Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't done that. 367 00:14:41,304 --> 00:14:43,264 Speaker 2: I can't like two thousand. 368 00:14:43,904 --> 00:14:45,904 Speaker 1: He has an old soul behind his eye. 369 00:14:45,984 --> 00:14:48,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very cute. He's very cute, obviously very popular 370 00:14:48,664 --> 00:14:51,504 Speaker 3: with like the younger Jen. But I'm wondering what other 371 00:14:51,744 --> 00:14:54,864 Speaker 3: you know, stars in that generation are kind of coming 372 00:14:54,944 --> 00:14:58,064 Speaker 3: up as that new wave of Hollywood, you know, because 373 00:14:58,224 --> 00:15:01,464 Speaker 3: it is different now. Things have changed significantly since you know, 374 00:15:01,544 --> 00:15:05,304 Speaker 3: TikTok and social media. It does feel very different now. 375 00:15:06,024 --> 00:15:06,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you mean you. 376 00:15:06,904 --> 00:15:09,104 Speaker 1: Hear actors say that, like a lot of things that 377 00:15:09,144 --> 00:15:11,384 Speaker 1: you get asked by casting a now is not just 378 00:15:11,544 --> 00:15:13,704 Speaker 1: like how you look in the audition, but how many 379 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:15,304 Speaker 1: follows you have? But I do feel like I don't 380 00:15:15,304 --> 00:15:17,024 Speaker 1: think he's not one of way peop who had. It's not 381 00:15:17,024 --> 00:15:18,784 Speaker 1: Addison Ray where you like, you have a following and 382 00:15:18,784 --> 00:15:22,064 Speaker 1: you parlay that into some sort of more mainstream success. 383 00:15:22,304 --> 00:15:24,384 Speaker 1: It was sort of interesting that the last time an 384 00:15:24,384 --> 00:15:27,384 Speaker 1: actor has had three number one films at the box 385 00:15:27,424 --> 00:15:29,744 Speaker 1: office in a consecutive amount of time like that, the 386 00:15:29,824 --> 00:15:33,144 Speaker 1: last time was Jim Carrey for Wow. Yeah, that's how 387 00:15:33,144 --> 00:15:35,504 Speaker 1: far we had to go back to find another actor 388 00:15:35,504 --> 00:15:37,304 Speaker 1: who had held that record And what was that? So 389 00:15:37,984 --> 00:15:41,104 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four, so it was a Centurro pet Detective 390 00:15:41,624 --> 00:15:43,864 Speaker 1: the Mask, great movie, and also Dumb and Dumber in 391 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:47,384 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four with three films reaching the top spots 392 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:50,184 Speaker 1: in the same year. And so it's wild that the 393 00:15:50,224 --> 00:15:52,624 Speaker 1: next time that's happened it's with Mason Tames in twenty 394 00:15:52,624 --> 00:15:54,304 Speaker 1: twenty five with How to Train Your Dragon Out, a 395 00:15:54,304 --> 00:15:55,264 Speaker 1: Colin Hoover movie. 396 00:15:55,344 --> 00:15:58,064 Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so Mason Thames is definitely like one to 397 00:15:58,184 --> 00:16:00,304 Speaker 2: watch then. So I just had a look at his IMDb. 398 00:16:00,504 --> 00:16:02,624 Speaker 3: It looks like he's got a movie coming out with 399 00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:07,064 Speaker 3: Dave Franco called The Shitheads two rock bottom drivers transport 400 00:16:07,064 --> 00:16:09,584 Speaker 3: a wealthy team to rehab. But there's simple job spiles 401 00:16:09,584 --> 00:16:12,384 Speaker 3: into a chaotic journey of drugs, danger, and crime as 402 00:16:12,424 --> 00:16:15,264 Speaker 3: their passions in jar derails their plans. 403 00:16:15,464 --> 00:16:17,264 Speaker 1: What's interesting to him at this is that I don't 404 00:16:17,424 --> 00:16:20,504 Speaker 1: think he is going to be a big star, Okay, 405 00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:22,624 Speaker 1: and I don't think he is a big star. Now. 406 00:16:22,624 --> 00:16:24,424 Speaker 1: I don't make that sound in a bad way, but 407 00:16:24,504 --> 00:16:28,784 Speaker 1: I just I was more interested looking at his success 408 00:16:28,824 --> 00:16:30,984 Speaker 1: this year and like where his numbers set and this 409 00:16:31,144 --> 00:16:33,664 Speaker 1: new record he's broken since nineteen ninety four. What I 410 00:16:33,704 --> 00:16:36,624 Speaker 1: was more interested in is like how we always talk 411 00:16:36,664 --> 00:16:38,504 Speaker 1: about like the death of the movie star, and like 412 00:16:38,784 --> 00:16:41,744 Speaker 1: people don't open movies anymore, and franchises open movies and 413 00:16:41,784 --> 00:16:44,224 Speaker 1: all these things. And this is the most indicative thing 414 00:16:44,264 --> 00:16:48,384 Speaker 1: I've seen in recent kind of movie time of that 415 00:16:48,464 --> 00:16:51,384 Speaker 1: being true, is that like he is a good actor, 416 00:16:51,464 --> 00:16:53,024 Speaker 1: Like he's fine. I see him in stuff and I 417 00:16:53,104 --> 00:16:55,704 Speaker 1: enjoy it. He's fine on press to us and stuff, 418 00:16:55,744 --> 00:16:58,584 Speaker 1: But I don't see him. I'm sure like people are like, oh, 419 00:16:58,664 --> 00:17:01,184 Speaker 1: he's so cute. He is very cute, and he's very sweet, 420 00:17:01,184 --> 00:17:03,704 Speaker 1: and he and Mccanniergary is a very cute and romantic together, 421 00:17:03,984 --> 00:17:05,504 Speaker 1: and when he took her hand at the premiere and 422 00:17:05,544 --> 00:17:07,904 Speaker 1: linked into the camera at the regartting New premiere and 423 00:17:07,904 --> 00:17:10,264 Speaker 1: that went viral, like that was a real moment. But he, 424 00:17:10,544 --> 00:17:12,904 Speaker 1: to me, doesn't feel like someone who is He's not 425 00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:15,904 Speaker 1: a franchise. He's just attaching his name to the franchise, 426 00:17:16,144 --> 00:17:18,744 Speaker 1: like he's on an old school movie star, like a 427 00:17:19,464 --> 00:17:22,264 Speaker 1: a Lenad of decappri or a Tom Hanks or you know, 428 00:17:22,304 --> 00:17:24,784 Speaker 1: a Tom Cruise, any of the Tom's, or even like 429 00:17:24,824 --> 00:17:27,464 Speaker 1: a Matthew McConaughey or any of those kind of where 430 00:17:27,504 --> 00:17:29,544 Speaker 1: you feel like someone is like a true movie star 431 00:17:29,624 --> 00:17:31,344 Speaker 1: and they or like a Brad Pitt or someone like that, 432 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,224 Speaker 1: where they kind of like they stand alone and you say, 433 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:36,464 Speaker 1: I want to go see the new Brad Pitt movie. 434 00:17:36,624 --> 00:17:38,264 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to move into a world 435 00:17:38,264 --> 00:17:39,824 Speaker 1: where anyone is like, oh, I want to go see 436 00:17:39,824 --> 00:17:42,744 Speaker 1: a new Mason Teams movie. It's going to become less 437 00:17:42,784 --> 00:17:46,664 Speaker 1: about the actors and movies and more about what franchises 438 00:17:46,704 --> 00:17:49,944 Speaker 1: they attach their names to, which I don't completely love, 439 00:17:50,184 --> 00:17:51,704 Speaker 1: Like it is kind of good to like know it's 440 00:17:51,704 --> 00:17:53,584 Speaker 1: more about the story than the person, but it just 441 00:17:53,664 --> 00:17:56,504 Speaker 1: means that it becomes more about this like ip. 442 00:17:56,984 --> 00:17:59,744 Speaker 3: I think what it also does is that it takes 443 00:17:59,784 --> 00:18:01,704 Speaker 3: a bit of the shine off that sort of a 444 00:18:01,824 --> 00:18:04,664 Speaker 3: list star look. Like if you think about when we 445 00:18:04,744 --> 00:18:07,904 Speaker 3: grew up, the A listers that we had, which were 446 00:18:07,944 --> 00:18:11,064 Speaker 3: your Brad Pitts and Tom Cruise, they felt so untouchable, 447 00:18:11,104 --> 00:18:13,744 Speaker 3: they were so a list that was the ceiling that 448 00:18:13,824 --> 00:18:17,944 Speaker 3: you couldn't possibly reach. But there is something about the 449 00:18:17,984 --> 00:18:21,024 Speaker 3: stars today that feels a lot more I don't. 450 00:18:20,744 --> 00:18:22,224 Speaker 2: Say accessible, and. 451 00:18:23,664 --> 00:18:26,544 Speaker 3: But I think it is that a little bit because 452 00:18:27,184 --> 00:18:29,344 Speaker 3: they're not leading these movies. 453 00:18:29,464 --> 00:18:32,944 Speaker 2: It's not Mason Tames in it's this, It's. 454 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:35,984 Speaker 1: A Train and Dragon Starry. And the other thing is, 455 00:18:36,024 --> 00:18:37,784 Speaker 1: if you like look at all these like young hot 456 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,984 Speaker 1: stars of Hollywood and whose names are on the big 457 00:18:40,024 --> 00:18:43,024 Speaker 1: posters and who have blockbusters and all that sort of stuff, 458 00:18:43,024 --> 00:18:45,384 Speaker 1: if you look at that next gen, they all weirdly 459 00:18:45,464 --> 00:18:49,264 Speaker 1: have the same face. If I put Tom holland Timothy 460 00:18:49,344 --> 00:18:52,864 Speaker 1: Chalomey and Mason Thames in a line and you're just 461 00:18:52,864 --> 00:18:55,424 Speaker 1: looking at their faces apart from the fact that Mason 462 00:18:55,464 --> 00:18:57,624 Speaker 1: Tames a lot taller than both of them, but if 463 00:18:57,664 --> 00:18:59,984 Speaker 1: you just put their faces together, are They're not just 464 00:19:00,144 --> 00:19:01,264 Speaker 1: variations of the same man. 465 00:19:01,344 --> 00:19:04,024 Speaker 2: I would even put Jacob or Bloody in that lineup. 466 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:04,344 Speaker 1: Yeah. 467 00:19:04,424 --> 00:19:07,184 Speaker 2: Similar. I would say that they look quite similar. 468 00:19:07,504 --> 00:19:12,664 Speaker 1: Very slender, very boyish face, sometimes curly, thick hair, really 469 00:19:12,704 --> 00:19:15,344 Speaker 1: like kind of like delicate nose. Again, two of them 470 00:19:15,344 --> 00:19:17,184 Speaker 1: are tall, two of them are short, but they all 471 00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:20,784 Speaker 1: have a very similar It's like we're just reprinting the 472 00:19:20,904 --> 00:19:23,384 Speaker 1: same man's face and putting it in all these new movies. 473 00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:25,704 Speaker 2: It's crazy, yeah, really interesting. 474 00:19:27,904 --> 00:19:30,344 Speaker 1: Okay, So it has been a while since we talked 475 00:19:30,384 --> 00:19:34,744 Speaker 1: about the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively legal situation, and 476 00:19:34,904 --> 00:19:38,304 Speaker 1: that is because it has been an ongoing, ever changing 477 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:41,464 Speaker 1: beast with a lot of different lawsuits coming in and out, 478 00:19:41,504 --> 00:19:43,584 Speaker 1: a lot of different players, a lot of movement, and 479 00:19:43,624 --> 00:19:45,864 Speaker 1: so we haven't spoken about it a lot since that 480 00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:49,344 Speaker 1: first wave of allegations and court cases sort of really 481 00:19:49,384 --> 00:19:52,064 Speaker 1: came into the public domain. But now feels like a 482 00:19:52,064 --> 00:19:54,224 Speaker 1: good time to dip back in because even though the 483 00:19:54,264 --> 00:19:56,864 Speaker 1: official court case is not happening until March next year, 484 00:19:57,184 --> 00:20:01,864 Speaker 1: there have been several really groundbreaking developments in this ongoing 485 00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:03,024 Speaker 1: legal case between them. 486 00:20:03,144 --> 00:20:06,344 Speaker 3: It feels wild that the first time we heard about 487 00:20:06,384 --> 00:20:08,784 Speaker 3: this lawsuit was at the end of last year. We've 488 00:20:08,784 --> 00:20:12,024 Speaker 3: been talking about this for almost year. There has been 489 00:20:12,064 --> 00:20:14,504 Speaker 3: a little bit of fatigue, like I'm feeling exhausted by 490 00:20:14,504 --> 00:20:16,104 Speaker 3: it because it's so hard to keep up with it. 491 00:20:16,144 --> 00:20:18,064 Speaker 3: But I do agree we definitely need to kind of 492 00:20:18,104 --> 00:20:21,384 Speaker 3: dip back in and update everyone. We had definitely a 493 00:20:21,464 --> 00:20:23,464 Speaker 3: lot happening at sort of the front part of the 494 00:20:23,544 --> 00:20:27,104 Speaker 3: year when there was the countersuits and defamation and sexual 495 00:20:27,104 --> 00:20:32,424 Speaker 3: harassment suits. So we now know that Justin Baldoni's suit 496 00:20:32,624 --> 00:20:38,024 Speaker 3: against Blake was officially dropped on the thirty first of October, 497 00:20:38,264 --> 00:20:41,384 Speaker 3: so that four hundred million dollar defamation countersuit was formally 498 00:20:41,504 --> 00:20:43,944 Speaker 3: ended by the judge. So Blake and her team were 499 00:20:44,024 --> 00:20:47,264 Speaker 3: very happy about that, celebrated that, and then what kind 500 00:20:47,264 --> 00:20:47,864 Speaker 3: of happens is. 501 00:20:47,864 --> 00:20:51,024 Speaker 1: Then, So this is where I find this quite interesting, 502 00:20:51,144 --> 00:20:54,224 Speaker 1: is it wasn't dropped because there wasn't enough evidence, or 503 00:20:54,264 --> 00:20:57,624 Speaker 1: because something was found to be incorrect or anything like that. 504 00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:01,744 Speaker 1: The judge dropped the countersuit against Blake lively because he 505 00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:04,184 Speaker 1: said that mister Baldoni and his team missed a court 506 00:21:04,224 --> 00:21:08,264 Speaker 1: deadline to file an amended complaint after the court had 507 00:21:08,264 --> 00:21:11,904 Speaker 1: already dismissed the case against Blake Lively in June. And 508 00:21:11,944 --> 00:21:14,864 Speaker 1: so when you see a miscourt deadline, that doesn't happen 509 00:21:14,864 --> 00:21:17,384 Speaker 1: because someone didn't write the date down correctly or they 510 00:21:17,464 --> 00:21:20,264 Speaker 1: missed filing a paper like that would have been quite 511 00:21:20,304 --> 00:21:22,464 Speaker 1: a deliberate thing of that. They were told that they 512 00:21:22,544 --> 00:21:25,824 Speaker 1: had to refile something about an amended complaint and they 513 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:28,624 Speaker 1: either decided not to push ahead because they knew it 514 00:21:28,664 --> 00:21:30,584 Speaker 1: was a lost cause, or they would have not had 515 00:21:30,624 --> 00:21:33,584 Speaker 1: the right evidence, or something has happened there. Because for 516 00:21:33,704 --> 00:21:38,024 Speaker 1: him to back out of a four hundred million dollar lawsuit, 517 00:21:38,064 --> 00:21:40,184 Speaker 1: which is also really going to, you know, mak him 518 00:21:40,224 --> 00:21:43,464 Speaker 1: break his career going forward, is a huge thing. So 519 00:21:43,504 --> 00:21:45,744 Speaker 1: I think that's been one of the biggest shifts that 520 00:21:45,784 --> 00:21:47,864 Speaker 1: we've seen publicly in this whole legal battle. 521 00:21:48,104 --> 00:21:51,224 Speaker 3: So since that was dropped, we've had a number of 522 00:21:51,304 --> 00:21:54,544 Speaker 3: different text messages that have been revealed. There's been text 523 00:21:54,544 --> 00:21:58,184 Speaker 3: messures between Colin Hoover and Justin Baldoni, and there's has 524 00:21:58,264 --> 00:22:01,744 Speaker 3: also been weirdly a text messages between Justin Madoni in 525 00:22:01,784 --> 00:22:06,424 Speaker 3: a group chat and Rain Wilson I Dwight from the office. 526 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:08,904 Speaker 1: Yes, the text message between him and some of his 527 00:22:08,984 --> 00:22:12,544 Speaker 1: Hollywood friends. I found really interesting because we'd heard so 528 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:16,224 Speaker 1: much about this confrontation that he allegedly had. Well, we've 529 00:22:16,224 --> 00:22:18,544 Speaker 1: heard two different sides of it where he says he 530 00:22:18,664 --> 00:22:21,584 Speaker 1: was summoned to Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds home. This 531 00:22:21,664 --> 00:22:24,144 Speaker 1: is the night that Taylor Swift was allegedly there, and 532 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:28,184 Speaker 1: we have seen court documents where he has given his 533 00:22:28,344 --> 00:22:31,544 Speaker 1: side of what he thinks happened. We've seen text messages 534 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:35,264 Speaker 1: that Blake Lively sent him afterwards. We've seen the text 535 00:22:35,304 --> 00:22:37,224 Speaker 1: meag so we know they're real, but we obviously don't 536 00:22:37,224 --> 00:22:40,104 Speaker 1: know everything had happened in that room because it wasn't recorded. 537 00:22:40,384 --> 00:22:42,504 Speaker 1: That was when she sent the whole I'm Callisi and 538 00:22:42,544 --> 00:22:45,864 Speaker 1: my dragons will come after you situation. So we've now 539 00:22:45,944 --> 00:22:49,384 Speaker 1: seen what his immediate reaction to his friends of that 540 00:22:49,584 --> 00:22:53,184 Speaker 1: night was because he was in a text chain with 541 00:22:53,264 --> 00:22:55,704 Speaker 1: a number of people. So Rain Wilson from the Office 542 00:22:55,944 --> 00:22:58,144 Speaker 1: is the most well known one in that group, but 543 00:22:58,184 --> 00:23:01,744 Speaker 1: it also includes another actor called Travis van Winkle, musician 544 00:23:01,784 --> 00:23:04,984 Speaker 1: Andy Grammar, and also it ends with US producer Jamie Heath, 545 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:08,624 Speaker 1: who was always very involved in the situation. 546 00:23:08,184 --> 00:23:09,984 Speaker 2: Linked to a lot of the allegations. 547 00:23:10,024 --> 00:23:12,504 Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of the allegations are against him, so 548 00:23:12,864 --> 00:23:15,504 Speaker 1: they're in this text chain and the part that's gone 549 00:23:15,544 --> 00:23:17,544 Speaker 1: to court. This is why this has been made public 550 00:23:18,024 --> 00:23:20,944 Speaker 1: is that Rain Wilson. Again, Dwight from the office said, 551 00:23:21,024 --> 00:23:25,024 Speaker 1: any update, brothers. Yeah, and this is when Justin Baldoni 552 00:23:25,184 --> 00:23:27,144 Speaker 1: just unleashes his start of the story. 553 00:23:27,424 --> 00:23:27,704 Speaker 2: Yeah. 554 00:23:27,744 --> 00:23:32,144 Speaker 3: So basically he says, that was the most uncomfortable experience 555 00:23:32,184 --> 00:23:36,224 Speaker 3: I've ever had. Ryan Reynolds effectively attacked me, made me 556 00:23:36,264 --> 00:23:39,984 Speaker 3: feel really, really uncomfortable. He's insinuating in this text exchange 557 00:23:39,984 --> 00:23:43,664 Speaker 3: that Ryan Reynolds was really very very aggressive towards him 558 00:23:44,104 --> 00:23:47,544 Speaker 3: and made him feel very very uncomfortable. It's a really 559 00:23:47,584 --> 00:23:51,464 Speaker 3: interesting perspective to see when a lot of what we 560 00:23:51,504 --> 00:23:54,904 Speaker 3: have seen is like Justin was the aggressor in the 561 00:23:54,984 --> 00:23:58,584 Speaker 3: sexual allegations, but here we see a lot of very 562 00:23:58,584 --> 00:24:01,864 Speaker 3: aggressive behavior from Ryan according to Justin. 563 00:24:01,984 --> 00:24:04,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are really a mode of text messages, and 564 00:24:04,184 --> 00:24:06,784 Speaker 1: in it, Justin Baldoni is saying to like, what you're 565 00:24:06,784 --> 00:24:09,704 Speaker 1: assuming is kind of like his group chating his support you. Yeah, 566 00:24:09,744 --> 00:24:11,944 Speaker 1: his friends have people in the industry who seem to 567 00:24:11,944 --> 00:24:14,984 Speaker 1: be very very across the situation. They know who all 568 00:24:14,984 --> 00:24:16,944 Speaker 1: the players are. They seem to know a lot about 569 00:24:16,984 --> 00:24:20,104 Speaker 1: the drama and rain Wilson is asking for updates, so 570 00:24:20,144 --> 00:24:23,304 Speaker 1: he obviously was very checking. Yeah, that his friend had 571 00:24:23,304 --> 00:24:25,904 Speaker 1: been summoned to this house and what had happened. And 572 00:24:26,024 --> 00:24:30,464 Speaker 1: the text messages are really a motive about Ryan and Blake, but. 573 00:24:30,104 --> 00:24:30,784 Speaker 2: Ryan in particular. 574 00:24:31,064 --> 00:24:33,384 Speaker 1: So he's like, Justin Baldoni writes, in the text, Ryan 575 00:24:33,504 --> 00:24:35,784 Speaker 1: was talking to me like a five year old scolding me. 576 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:38,264 Speaker 1: They essentially said that Jamie and I are not who 577 00:24:38,264 --> 00:24:40,224 Speaker 1: we claim to be and that for us to have 578 00:24:40,264 --> 00:24:43,344 Speaker 1: a podcast is unsafe because it makes people feel like 579 00:24:43,464 --> 00:24:45,864 Speaker 1: we are safe. That's quite a damning allegation. 580 00:24:46,104 --> 00:24:47,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite full on. 581 00:24:47,384 --> 00:24:52,024 Speaker 3: I actually think that that particular line doesn't really work 582 00:24:52,064 --> 00:24:56,744 Speaker 3: in his favor, mainly because the primary suit with Blake 583 00:24:57,024 --> 00:24:59,704 Speaker 3: is for a sexual assault allegation. So the fact that 584 00:24:59,704 --> 00:25:03,504 Speaker 3: he's admitting to his group chat that Ryan has accused 585 00:25:03,584 --> 00:25:08,624 Speaker 3: him of being the quote unquote aggressor isn't great for 586 00:25:08,704 --> 00:25:09,224 Speaker 3: his case. 587 00:25:09,264 --> 00:25:11,024 Speaker 2: That's my person of it. 588 00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:13,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're really kind of getting kids take on what 589 00:25:13,824 --> 00:25:16,504 Speaker 1: happened here. So he says, like Justin Baldoni says, the 590 00:25:16,544 --> 00:25:20,184 Speaker 1: word creepy and abusive were used in reference to me 591 00:25:20,264 --> 00:25:22,944 Speaker 1: and my behavior. I was then given the words to 592 00:25:22,984 --> 00:25:25,384 Speaker 1: say and had to apologize, which I was unable to 593 00:25:25,384 --> 00:25:28,224 Speaker 1: do because my brain was trying to comprehend what was happening. 594 00:25:28,744 --> 00:25:30,264 Speaker 1: And then he goes on to say, I just feel 595 00:25:30,264 --> 00:25:32,744 Speaker 1: this is so unjust, and yet the only path forward 596 00:25:32,784 --> 00:25:36,144 Speaker 1: was to acknowledge her and Ryan's feelings and apologize and 597 00:25:36,224 --> 00:25:40,344 Speaker 1: take the wrath of an angry husband, to which Rain 598 00:25:40,464 --> 00:25:43,304 Speaker 1: Wilson replied, Oh my god, I can't believe it. Rain's 599 00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:44,224 Speaker 1: living for the DRUMA. I know. 600 00:25:44,304 --> 00:25:44,784 Speaker 2: I lost it. 601 00:25:45,104 --> 00:25:49,064 Speaker 3: It's just so out of character for what I envisaged 602 00:25:49,184 --> 00:25:52,664 Speaker 3: Rain Wilson being in any interview. Obviously, Dwight is a 603 00:25:52,784 --> 00:25:56,504 Speaker 3: very popular character, but even when I've seen Wilson interviewed, 604 00:25:56,504 --> 00:26:00,224 Speaker 3: he seems pretty level headed, and even he doesn't seem 605 00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,904 Speaker 3: like a gossipy man. I don't know if this feels gossipy, 606 00:26:02,944 --> 00:26:03,584 Speaker 3: it's obviously him. 607 00:26:04,104 --> 00:26:06,224 Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds like he's really wants to know 608 00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:08,144 Speaker 1: what happened. And I would too. If my friend who 609 00:26:08,224 --> 00:26:10,904 Speaker 1: was working Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds was summoned to 610 00:26:10,944 --> 00:26:12,464 Speaker 1: their house and there was a showdown, I would be 611 00:26:12,504 --> 00:26:15,184 Speaker 1: on that text chain like a mad person trying to 612 00:26:15,184 --> 00:26:18,224 Speaker 1: get details. And also this was such a different time too, 613 00:26:18,264 --> 00:26:21,224 Speaker 1: Like there was a time when Justin Baldoni, a lot 614 00:26:21,224 --> 00:26:23,504 Speaker 1: of people have distanced themselves from him, but there was 615 00:26:23,544 --> 00:26:25,824 Speaker 1: a time where people just knew him as the lovely 616 00:26:25,864 --> 00:26:28,704 Speaker 1: actor from Dane the Virgin, and his castmates loved him, 617 00:26:28,984 --> 00:26:31,224 Speaker 1: and he had a podcast about like being a good 618 00:26:31,224 --> 00:26:33,944 Speaker 1: man in emotions with a female co host who loved him, 619 00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:36,304 Speaker 1: and he was in a lot of Hollywood productions and 620 00:26:36,344 --> 00:26:39,424 Speaker 1: people like he had his cachet. He was like always 621 00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:42,704 Speaker 1: invited on other people's podcasts to like talk about emotions 622 00:26:42,744 --> 00:26:45,224 Speaker 1: and feelings, and he was seen as like this lovely 623 00:26:45,264 --> 00:26:47,744 Speaker 1: man in Hollywood. So I don't know what's happened behind 624 00:26:47,784 --> 00:26:49,784 Speaker 1: the scenes and with his friends, but I'd say in 625 00:26:49,824 --> 00:26:52,104 Speaker 1: his friendship group he is that person, which is why 626 00:26:52,504 --> 00:26:55,024 Speaker 1: on their end, they probably can't believe that he has 627 00:26:55,024 --> 00:26:57,224 Speaker 1: been pulled into this house by these two A listers 628 00:26:57,224 --> 00:26:59,624 Speaker 1: and this is what they've said. But yeah, Rain Wilson 629 00:26:59,624 --> 00:27:01,784 Speaker 1: writes a response that in the text chain, oh my god, 630 00:27:01,784 --> 00:27:03,864 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. You were set up and ambushed 631 00:27:03,864 --> 00:27:07,984 Speaker 1: and personally attacked. I'm stunned. I completely relate to you 632 00:27:08,064 --> 00:27:11,184 Speaker 1: being stunned like a deer in headlights. Probably better that 633 00:27:11,264 --> 00:27:14,024 Speaker 1: you didn't just start apologizing and then went on to 634 00:27:14,064 --> 00:27:17,544 Speaker 1: say onwards, brother, make a great and important, entertaining piece 635 00:27:17,584 --> 00:27:20,544 Speaker 1: of storytelling. That's all you can do for now, which, 636 00:27:20,584 --> 00:27:22,184 Speaker 1: when you kind of see what that movie ended up, 637 00:27:22,264 --> 00:27:25,184 Speaker 1: important entertaining piece of storytelling isn't exactly what we would 638 00:27:25,184 --> 00:27:26,064 Speaker 1: say about it. 639 00:27:25,704 --> 00:27:30,224 Speaker 3: But the whole movie has been completely overshadowed by this lawsuit. Like, 640 00:27:30,344 --> 00:27:33,824 Speaker 3: even if you haven't seen the movie, it's really difficult 641 00:27:33,864 --> 00:27:37,704 Speaker 3: to want to see something when you know the background 642 00:27:37,704 --> 00:27:38,104 Speaker 3: behind it. 643 00:27:38,024 --> 00:27:39,104 Speaker 2: It really takes you out of this. 644 00:27:39,184 --> 00:27:41,904 Speaker 1: It's just because it's already a story of abuse and control. 645 00:27:42,024 --> 00:27:44,344 Speaker 1: So yeah, even just having that in your head, Yeah, 646 00:27:44,344 --> 00:27:46,024 Speaker 1: it's hard to watch. But people, I feel like it 647 00:27:46,064 --> 00:27:48,424 Speaker 1: had a new life on streaming because it became so 648 00:27:48,544 --> 00:27:51,464 Speaker 1: infamous because of this core case that people were watching, well, people. 649 00:27:51,264 --> 00:27:53,584 Speaker 3: Were trying to seek the hidden things, like could they 650 00:27:53,624 --> 00:27:57,144 Speaker 3: find anything within the movie that other people didn't see 651 00:27:57,224 --> 00:28:00,384 Speaker 3: or they didn't realize in the first iteration of it. 652 00:28:00,384 --> 00:28:03,144 Speaker 3: It was also quite interesting to see the messages between 653 00:28:03,144 --> 00:28:07,704 Speaker 3: Colleen Hoover and Justin BALTONI and Colleen Hoover based obviously 654 00:28:07,704 --> 00:28:10,304 Speaker 3: the author of it ends with us and regretting you, 655 00:28:10,384 --> 00:28:13,984 Speaker 3: which we just spoke about having to choose between Blake 656 00:28:14,144 --> 00:28:17,184 Speaker 3: and Justin being forced to choose between the two. So 657 00:28:17,264 --> 00:28:19,904 Speaker 3: she writes to Justin in these text exchanges that have 658 00:28:19,944 --> 00:28:23,344 Speaker 3: been released, I have been disappointed personally by your actions 659 00:28:23,384 --> 00:28:27,744 Speaker 3: many times. I appreciate that you haven't directly said anything negative. 660 00:28:27,784 --> 00:28:30,104 Speaker 3: That's how it should be. But you are grown men 661 00:28:30,344 --> 00:28:32,824 Speaker 3: with a platform. You know how to use it to 662 00:28:32,864 --> 00:28:36,144 Speaker 3: protect your image. Please don't continue it to use me 663 00:28:36,424 --> 00:28:37,904 Speaker 3: or mine. That's all I'm asking. 664 00:28:38,624 --> 00:28:41,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that in itself as a singular message, 665 00:28:41,824 --> 00:28:43,704 Speaker 1: isn't that damning. But it does make you think that 666 00:28:43,744 --> 00:28:46,384 Speaker 1: there's so much more happening behind the scenes that we 667 00:28:46,624 --> 00:28:49,064 Speaker 1: haven't seen, and something that's you know, not everything that 668 00:28:49,104 --> 00:28:51,064 Speaker 1: happens behind the scenes can be pulled into a core case, 669 00:28:51,104 --> 00:28:53,424 Speaker 1: like there's only certain things that can be used as 670 00:28:53,504 --> 00:28:55,784 Speaker 1: evidence or that are seen as part of the situation. 671 00:28:56,024 --> 00:28:59,304 Speaker 1: But I think that does speak to a general uneasiness. Yeah, 672 00:28:59,344 --> 00:29:01,184 Speaker 1: that's potentially happened behind the scenes. 673 00:29:01,224 --> 00:29:03,184 Speaker 3: And before that particular message, there was just one of 674 00:29:03,224 --> 00:29:05,104 Speaker 3: the line I want to call out. She says, the 675 00:29:05,184 --> 00:29:07,664 Speaker 3: back and forth articles from both camps is just so 676 00:29:07,784 --> 00:29:10,584 Speaker 3: upsetting and ridiculous. It's making everyone working on this you 677 00:29:10,624 --> 00:29:14,784 Speaker 3: look immature. Everyone is out there trying to save themselves 678 00:29:14,864 --> 00:29:16,744 Speaker 3: and now this has turned into a huge mess. 679 00:29:17,024 --> 00:29:19,784 Speaker 2: If that isn't such a great. 680 00:29:19,704 --> 00:29:23,704 Speaker 3: Like packaging up of how this has come together, it's this. 681 00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:26,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sound like everyone all of a sudden 682 00:29:26,424 --> 00:29:29,184 Speaker 1: went into disaster mode trying to save themselves, and every 683 00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:32,104 Speaker 1: time everyone tried to save their own image, that made 684 00:29:32,144 --> 00:29:34,664 Speaker 1: the ship sink even further. I guess we should say 685 00:29:34,664 --> 00:29:37,384 Speaker 1: the stage of these are or allocation alliation. We still 686 00:29:37,384 --> 00:29:39,904 Speaker 1: don't know. The court case is not going ahead until 687 00:29:39,944 --> 00:29:43,104 Speaker 1: next year, but the more information we see, the more 688 00:29:43,104 --> 00:29:44,784 Speaker 1: we're getting sort of a scope I think of how 689 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,304 Speaker 1: it's going to play out when it goes to court. 690 00:29:46,424 --> 00:29:49,184 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely much. Next year is when that happens. We 691 00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:53,944 Speaker 3: also saw some additional video footage that only came out 692 00:29:53,944 --> 00:29:57,864 Speaker 3: in the last couple of days of Justin basically joking 693 00:29:57,944 --> 00:30:01,544 Speaker 3: on set that he didn't do the sexual harassment training. 694 00:30:01,904 --> 00:30:04,384 Speaker 3: And this is something that people are really like, Oh, 695 00:30:04,424 --> 00:30:05,864 Speaker 3: here we go, we got you, we got you. 696 00:30:05,944 --> 00:30:07,904 Speaker 2: Justin. This is us catching you in the act. 697 00:30:08,544 --> 00:30:11,384 Speaker 3: So basically the footage is Blake has kind of got 698 00:30:11,424 --> 00:30:14,824 Speaker 3: her back to the camera. There's an exchange there. Justin 699 00:30:14,864 --> 00:30:17,864 Speaker 3: talks about how Blake has something in her teeth, asks 700 00:30:17,904 --> 00:30:20,424 Speaker 3: to get a toothpick pick something out of tooth. Then 701 00:30:20,464 --> 00:30:22,744 Speaker 3: there's something that isn't heard by the camera and then 702 00:30:22,784 --> 00:30:26,704 Speaker 3: he says, oh, sorry, I didn't do the sexual harassment training. 703 00:30:27,344 --> 00:30:30,224 Speaker 3: And the other actress in there is Jenny slat So, 704 00:30:30,544 --> 00:30:32,624 Speaker 3: the co star in the movie. So yeah, this is 705 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:36,304 Speaker 3: another piece that Lively's team have to say, Look, this 706 00:30:36,384 --> 00:30:39,344 Speaker 3: is more evidence of Justin's wrongdoing. 707 00:30:39,624 --> 00:30:42,104 Speaker 1: So actually that's how it kind of appears that it's 708 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:44,624 Speaker 1: in Blake c Lively's favor, but it was actually Justin 709 00:30:44,664 --> 00:30:48,224 Speaker 1: Baldoni's team that released the footage, which is kind of 710 00:30:48,224 --> 00:30:50,184 Speaker 1: crazy because I guess if you watch it, if you're 711 00:30:50,184 --> 00:30:52,184 Speaker 1: just seen the clips, that it does look like it's 712 00:30:52,224 --> 00:30:54,664 Speaker 1: in her favor, but it's actually his team that's released it, 713 00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:57,704 Speaker 1: and they've released it I guess because of that end 714 00:30:57,704 --> 00:31:01,264 Speaker 1: bit where he says my apologies and Blake Clively says 715 00:31:01,344 --> 00:31:03,584 Speaker 1: it's all good. I guess that they're trying to use 716 00:31:03,584 --> 00:31:05,304 Speaker 1: that as I mean, I'm not trying to guess. I mean, 717 00:31:05,344 --> 00:31:07,104 Speaker 1: we probably can't do that because it's coming in still 718 00:31:07,104 --> 00:31:10,064 Speaker 1: going to court. But the statement that is with it 719 00:31:10,104 --> 00:31:13,584 Speaker 1: in the court document says video footage of the incident 720 00:31:13,704 --> 00:31:16,984 Speaker 1: shows Blake Lively was fully dressed and in an oversized 721 00:31:16,984 --> 00:31:20,624 Speaker 1: fleecewesie at the time. The numerous actors and crew were 722 00:31:20,664 --> 00:31:23,584 Speaker 1: also present and engaged in ongoing work at the time. 723 00:31:24,144 --> 00:31:28,104 Speaker 1: Baldoni's facial expression was neutral and not ogling or suggestive, 724 00:31:28,504 --> 00:31:32,464 Speaker 1: and that after Baldonie apologized if his remark was inappropriate, 725 00:31:32,944 --> 00:31:36,424 Speaker 1: Lively responded by saying, all goods. This is what his 726 00:31:36,584 --> 00:31:39,904 Speaker 1: legal team has said. Then they said this video was 727 00:31:39,944 --> 00:31:43,904 Speaker 1: submitted as evidence in response to previous testimony from Lively 728 00:31:43,984 --> 00:31:46,784 Speaker 1: about this interaction. So I guess what they're saying is 729 00:31:46,864 --> 00:31:49,304 Speaker 1: some of her court documents that she has put forward, 730 00:31:49,624 --> 00:31:53,464 Speaker 1: she's referenced this incident. And then in response, justin Baldoni's 731 00:31:53,504 --> 00:31:56,144 Speaker 1: legal team has said, here is the full video footage 732 00:31:56,264 --> 00:31:58,864 Speaker 1: and this is what we think it says, and so 733 00:31:58,984 --> 00:32:00,504 Speaker 1: that's now gone into the court case. 734 00:32:00,624 --> 00:32:04,744 Speaker 3: I must have misinterpreted that, because even when I look 735 00:32:04,744 --> 00:32:06,864 Speaker 3: at that, I probably would have still been that that's 736 00:32:06,904 --> 00:32:10,024 Speaker 3: quite damning. Because it's someone making a joke of sexual 737 00:32:10,064 --> 00:32:12,424 Speaker 3: he there's so many different things. 738 00:32:12,464 --> 00:32:14,744 Speaker 2: They're like, what are you trying to prove here? 739 00:32:14,904 --> 00:32:16,664 Speaker 1: Well, this is I think the issue that we always 740 00:32:16,704 --> 00:32:19,464 Speaker 1: see in these kind of high level court cases is 741 00:32:19,504 --> 00:32:22,464 Speaker 1: that you have one part of the court case playing 742 00:32:22,504 --> 00:32:24,344 Speaker 1: out in the court and the rest of it playing 743 00:32:24,344 --> 00:32:25,464 Speaker 1: out on TikTok. 744 00:32:25,104 --> 00:32:26,184 Speaker 2: The court of public opinions. 745 00:32:26,304 --> 00:32:28,024 Speaker 1: A lot of people are only seeing that one little 746 00:32:28,024 --> 00:32:29,904 Speaker 1: clip on TikTok where he says I didn't do the 747 00:32:29,944 --> 00:32:32,864 Speaker 1: sexual harassment training. If you're seeing that, yes, very damn me. 748 00:32:33,224 --> 00:32:34,544 Speaker 1: But I guess you've got to think the people in 749 00:32:34,584 --> 00:32:36,864 Speaker 1: the court are seeing the full video. But here's the 750 00:32:36,904 --> 00:32:39,704 Speaker 1: whole thing about this is that obviously it matters who 751 00:32:39,784 --> 00:32:44,024 Speaker 1: wins the court case and whether Blake Lively's suit against him, 752 00:32:44,104 --> 00:32:46,064 Speaker 1: whether she wins or not. Like I think there's money 753 00:32:46,064 --> 00:32:49,504 Speaker 1: at stake, there's reputation. The stakes are very high. But 754 00:32:49,544 --> 00:32:53,184 Speaker 1: I do feel that because this whole situation between them 755 00:32:53,184 --> 00:32:55,984 Speaker 1: has been so public and so damning on both sides, 756 00:32:56,344 --> 00:32:58,304 Speaker 1: and as you said, people have the tig around this now. 757 00:32:58,624 --> 00:33:01,224 Speaker 1: I almost think by the time this court case is 758 00:33:01,264 --> 00:33:04,064 Speaker 1: finalized next year, the damage has kind of been done 759 00:33:04,064 --> 00:33:06,624 Speaker 1: on both sides. I think even if Blake Lively wins, 760 00:33:06,944 --> 00:33:08,584 Speaker 1: and again we don't know who's innocent or not. That's 761 00:33:08,544 --> 00:33:10,064 Speaker 1: Almo in a trial. We don't know. It's all well 762 00:33:10,104 --> 00:33:13,064 Speaker 1: agains of this stage. But I think even if it wins, 763 00:33:13,224 --> 00:33:16,424 Speaker 1: there's still a huge camp of people that think she 764 00:33:16,584 --> 00:33:19,464 Speaker 1: is this monstrous person and that's never going to change 765 00:33:19,584 --> 00:33:21,704 Speaker 1: because they've made up their mind from TikTok videos and 766 00:33:21,744 --> 00:33:24,384 Speaker 1: then with Justin Baldoni, people have met up their mind 767 00:33:24,384 --> 00:33:26,224 Speaker 1: about him. So it's almost like, is anyone going to 768 00:33:26,304 --> 00:33:27,464 Speaker 1: kind of care at the end of the day who 769 00:33:27,544 --> 00:33:28,464 Speaker 1: wins the court case. 770 00:33:28,824 --> 00:33:29,584 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 771 00:33:29,744 --> 00:33:35,064 Speaker 3: I think both of these camps have irreparably ruined their reputations. 772 00:33:35,104 --> 00:33:38,024 Speaker 3: Since this court case started and these allegations came out. 773 00:33:38,104 --> 00:33:40,984 Speaker 3: I kept going back and forth of whose side. 774 00:33:40,704 --> 00:33:42,824 Speaker 2: I was on, or what I believed or what I 775 00:33:42,864 --> 00:33:43,544 Speaker 2: didn't believe. 776 00:33:43,824 --> 00:33:46,104 Speaker 3: But no matter what happens, no matter who wins the 777 00:33:46,144 --> 00:33:49,224 Speaker 3: court case, no matter who comes out with the monetary 778 00:33:49,304 --> 00:33:54,224 Speaker 3: gain or the legal victory, both of them have absolutely 779 00:33:54,304 --> 00:34:00,144 Speaker 3: ruined their reputations. And furthermore, like Blake Ryan, that whole 780 00:34:00,224 --> 00:34:02,464 Speaker 3: camp that is going to take a very, very long 781 00:34:02,504 --> 00:34:05,784 Speaker 3: time to heal. They're never going to get back that 782 00:34:06,224 --> 00:34:09,984 Speaker 3: Blake and Ryan joky like lovey dovey couple. There's always 783 00:34:09,984 --> 00:34:12,864 Speaker 3: gonna be our camp of people who have these really 784 00:34:13,024 --> 00:34:19,664 Speaker 3: negative reactions to Blake and Ryan, and that cookie cutter, beautiful, 785 00:34:19,704 --> 00:34:24,864 Speaker 3: perfect couple image that they had created is gone. Justin 786 00:34:24,904 --> 00:34:30,504 Speaker 3: Maldoni has now had his reputation marred by whether it's 787 00:34:30,544 --> 00:34:34,744 Speaker 3: sexual harassment or the way he handled the set of 788 00:34:34,984 --> 00:34:37,624 Speaker 3: It Ends with Us, the way he handled his relationship 789 00:34:37,664 --> 00:34:40,904 Speaker 3: with Blake, whether he was inappropriate or not. And no 790 00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:44,144 Speaker 3: matter what happens, what's he gonna do next. I just 791 00:34:44,184 --> 00:34:47,304 Speaker 3: think no one wins in this court case. Yeah, exactly, 792 00:34:47,344 --> 00:34:48,224 Speaker 3: no one wins. 793 00:34:48,424 --> 00:34:50,144 Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll be back here in mind really 794 00:34:50,184 --> 00:34:52,424 Speaker 1: sad March of next year, just to see how all 795 00:34:52,464 --> 00:34:52,704 Speaker 1: the sun. 796 00:34:52,904 --> 00:34:55,024 Speaker 3: We'll probably keep you updated in a couple of months. 797 00:34:55,144 --> 00:34:57,584 Speaker 3: There's so much happening and there's a lot to keep 798 00:34:57,624 --> 00:35:00,104 Speaker 3: track of. Thank you so much for listening to the 799 00:35:00,184 --> 00:35:00,864 Speaker 3: spill today. 800 00:35:01,064 --> 00:35:01,344 Speaker 2: Guys. 801 00:35:01,384 --> 00:35:03,584 Speaker 3: We do have a YouTube channel, so make sure you 802 00:35:03,664 --> 00:35:06,624 Speaker 3: check us out and you can see Laura's real in 803 00:35:06,664 --> 00:35:09,704 Speaker 3: person reaction to the La Boo boos, and you can 804 00:35:09,744 --> 00:35:12,184 Speaker 3: watch all of our shows and behind the scenes content. 805 00:35:12,664 --> 00:35:15,064 Speaker 3: And remember Morning Tea also drops a new episode every 806 00:35:15,104 --> 00:35:17,264 Speaker 3: weekday at seven to get you up to speed with 807 00:35:17,344 --> 00:35:20,464 Speaker 3: all of the celebrity headlines, and you can find it 808 00:35:20,584 --> 00:35:22,744 Speaker 3: right here in this Speed The Spill is produced by 809 00:35:22,864 --> 00:35:25,664 Speaker 3: minisia Isswarren with sound production by Scott Stronach. 810 00:35:25,744 --> 00:35:38,384 Speaker 1: Bye Bye Bye, Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of 811 00:35:38,424 --> 00:35:41,344 Speaker 1: the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor 812 00:35:41,424 --> 00:35:44,544 Speaker 1: people of the eorination. We pay our respects to their 813 00:35:44,544 --> 00:35:47,504 Speaker 1: elders past and present, and extend that respect to all 814 00:35:47,544 --> 00:35:49,744 Speaker 1: Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander cultures.