1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:16,224 Speaker 2: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the 3 00:00:16,264 --> 00:00:19,824 Speaker 2: traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast is 4 00:00:19,864 --> 00:00:25,904 Speaker 2: recorded on. From Mama Mia. 5 00:00:26,104 --> 00:00:28,824 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. 6 00:00:29,104 --> 00:00:31,264 Speaker 2: I'm Em Burnham and I'm Laura Brodney. 7 00:00:31,344 --> 00:00:32,264 Speaker 3: Happy Monday. 8 00:00:32,584 --> 00:00:34,984 Speaker 1: That's way too much, I feel with the conversion every Monday. 9 00:00:35,024 --> 00:00:36,424 Speaker 1: You're too happy for a Monday morning. 10 00:00:36,584 --> 00:00:36,864 Speaker 2: Sorry. 11 00:00:36,944 --> 00:00:39,864 Speaker 1: I don't come alive until about five o'clock, six o'clock, 12 00:00:40,184 --> 00:00:42,064 Speaker 1: which is a shame because we record this podcast in 13 00:00:42,144 --> 00:00:42,504 Speaker 1: the morning, but. 14 00:00:42,544 --> 00:00:45,264 Speaker 3: Also complete opposites like I'm like big in the morning 15 00:00:45,304 --> 00:00:48,424 Speaker 3: and then I like slowly deplag and I come alive 16 00:00:48,424 --> 00:00:50,224 Speaker 3: when we go out at night. It doesn't work. 17 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:52,184 Speaker 1: Maybe we should start recording this podcast tonight and then 18 00:00:52,184 --> 00:00:54,104 Speaker 1: people will see my true personality they've never. 19 00:00:54,024 --> 00:00:55,144 Speaker 2: Seen them start hating me. 20 00:00:56,944 --> 00:00:59,664 Speaker 3: On the show today, we are talking about the Grammy 21 00:00:59,704 --> 00:01:02,624 Speaker 3: nominations that were just announced, the biggest surprises, and some 22 00:01:02,784 --> 00:01:06,224 Speaker 3: new breaking records. We're also talking about an A Lister's 23 00:01:06,344 --> 00:01:08,464 Speaker 3: extremely Rogue interview. 24 00:01:08,744 --> 00:01:11,744 Speaker 1: But first, but first, I just wanted to share a 25 00:01:12,144 --> 00:01:15,344 Speaker 1: podcast episode I was listening to this morning as I 26 00:01:15,504 --> 00:01:17,704 Speaker 1: was making my coffee and walking into work that I 27 00:01:17,704 --> 00:01:19,864 Speaker 1: found really riveting and coming off the back of something 28 00:01:19,864 --> 00:01:23,384 Speaker 1: we discussed last week, which is an interview with Jackie 29 00:01:23,464 --> 00:01:27,264 Speaker 1: O on Miya Freeman's podcast No Filter. And obviously we've 30 00:01:27,304 --> 00:01:30,984 Speaker 1: talked a lot about Jackie's autobiography coming out recently, a 31 00:01:31,024 --> 00:01:33,704 Speaker 1: friendship with Lindsay l Yes, yes we went deep. 32 00:01:33,544 --> 00:01:34,984 Speaker 2: On that is the big kind of takeaway. 33 00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:37,584 Speaker 1: But also there's just been so much around in terms 34 00:01:37,584 --> 00:01:39,984 Speaker 1: of Jackie O being one of the most famous women 35 00:01:39,984 --> 00:01:43,544 Speaker 1: in Australia and recently coming out with her story of addiction, 36 00:01:43,704 --> 00:01:45,424 Speaker 1: something that she kept out of a public eye for 37 00:01:45,464 --> 00:01:48,544 Speaker 1: so long, and talking about how that affected her life, 38 00:01:48,584 --> 00:01:50,624 Speaker 1: and all these stories that have now come out of 39 00:01:50,664 --> 00:01:53,184 Speaker 1: the woodwork. And what I thought was interesting listening to 40 00:01:53,184 --> 00:01:55,784 Speaker 1: this episode of No Filter is that I've been reading 41 00:01:55,864 --> 00:01:58,384 Speaker 1: Jackie Oo's book, I've been looking at all the interviews 42 00:01:58,384 --> 00:02:00,904 Speaker 1: she's been doing, I've been reading all the articles about it. 43 00:02:01,104 --> 00:02:02,784 Speaker 1: So much content out there, but I thought this was 44 00:02:02,864 --> 00:02:04,744 Speaker 1: just a bit of a different side to the story 45 00:02:05,224 --> 00:02:08,304 Speaker 1: because Jackie's joined on No Filter by her best friend 46 00:02:08,344 --> 00:02:12,024 Speaker 1: and manager, Jemma O'Neill, and in the interview they talk 47 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:15,944 Speaker 1: about how Jackie told Jemma about what was going on 48 00:02:16,104 --> 00:02:19,224 Speaker 1: and how Gemma kind of like her reaction to finding 49 00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:22,304 Speaker 1: out that her best friend and business partner and all 50 00:02:22,344 --> 00:02:24,464 Speaker 1: of these things was going through this, and also how 51 00:02:24,544 --> 00:02:27,264 Speaker 1: Jemma got Jackie to rehab without the press finding out 52 00:02:27,344 --> 00:02:29,744 Speaker 1: was like really instrumental in all of that, and I 53 00:02:29,784 --> 00:02:31,264 Speaker 1: just think it kind of gives a different side to 54 00:02:31,304 --> 00:02:31,784 Speaker 1: the story. 55 00:02:32,224 --> 00:02:35,744 Speaker 3: What I found really interesting about this interview in particular 56 00:02:36,024 --> 00:02:39,064 Speaker 3: is that I feel like we talk about addictions so 57 00:02:39,184 --> 00:02:43,984 Speaker 3: much in Hollywood, especially international celebrities, and whenever we talk 58 00:02:44,024 --> 00:02:47,344 Speaker 3: about women facing addictions, it's always through a different lens, 59 00:02:47,384 --> 00:02:49,424 Speaker 3: and I always feel like from a public perspective, it's 60 00:02:49,424 --> 00:02:53,264 Speaker 3: always through a harsher lens. Yeah, especially women who are mothers, 61 00:02:53,384 --> 00:02:55,504 Speaker 3: who are sisters, who are daughters. It feels like there's 62 00:02:55,544 --> 00:02:58,344 Speaker 3: this added pressure that when a woman is addicted, it 63 00:02:58,424 --> 00:03:01,824 Speaker 3: comes with like the pressure of like her whole family 64 00:03:01,864 --> 00:03:04,984 Speaker 3: being involved, and that's never the case when it's a man. Absolutely, 65 00:03:05,024 --> 00:03:07,944 Speaker 3: And I found that really really interesting, and I think 66 00:03:07,984 --> 00:03:11,944 Speaker 3: it just shows like their relationship. Like women, friendship is 67 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:14,984 Speaker 3: just something that is so highly valued no matter what 68 00:03:15,024 --> 00:03:15,704 Speaker 3: your status is. 69 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:17,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, the friendship, take, I think, is always such an 70 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:20,264 Speaker 1: interesting part of the story. Well, we'll link that episode 71 00:03:20,344 --> 00:03:22,904 Speaker 1: of No Filter with Jackie Oh and Jammuronnial in the 72 00:03:22,904 --> 00:03:24,264 Speaker 1: show notes if you want to have a listen. 73 00:03:25,344 --> 00:03:30,384 Speaker 3: Over the weekend the Grammy nominations were announced. I feel like, personally, 74 00:03:30,464 --> 00:03:33,664 Speaker 3: I know Oscar is like our bread and butter, but 75 00:03:33,904 --> 00:03:35,464 Speaker 3: Grammys is like my thing. 76 00:03:35,704 --> 00:03:38,504 Speaker 1: Grammy's that the stakes felt so high this year going 77 00:03:38,544 --> 00:03:40,624 Speaker 1: into having those nominations's quite nervous. 78 00:03:40,624 --> 00:03:42,784 Speaker 2: Oh, we yeah, what were you nervous about? 79 00:03:42,864 --> 00:03:53,904 Speaker 3: I was nervous about Beyonce's nomination. Yes, of course, so 80 00:03:54,184 --> 00:03:57,344 Speaker 3: I am happy. Beyonce set some record. She was the 81 00:03:57,384 --> 00:04:01,424 Speaker 3: most nominated. She had eleven nominations for her country album 82 00:04:01,624 --> 00:04:05,344 Speaker 3: Cowboy Kater. She's also now the most nominated artist in 83 00:04:05,424 --> 00:04:08,744 Speaker 3: history with ninety nine nominations. All up, it's also her 84 00:04:08,744 --> 00:04:11,664 Speaker 3: personal best this year. So the last time I think 85 00:04:11,744 --> 00:04:13,544 Speaker 3: she it was two thousand and nine, where she had 86 00:04:13,544 --> 00:04:16,424 Speaker 3: ten nominations for her album, but all up, she's won 87 00:04:16,664 --> 00:04:20,144 Speaker 3: thirty two. We have talked in depth about this dark 88 00:04:20,264 --> 00:04:24,624 Speaker 3: difference between Beyonce's nominations versus the amount she's actually won. 89 00:04:24,784 --> 00:04:27,144 Speaker 3: I think it was our Grammys episode last year, of 90 00:04:27,144 --> 00:04:28,584 Speaker 3: which we will link in the show notes because we 91 00:04:28,624 --> 00:04:30,944 Speaker 3: talked about jay Z's speech and how that was controversial. 92 00:04:31,224 --> 00:04:33,984 Speaker 3: We broke all of that down. But I was actually 93 00:04:34,064 --> 00:04:38,864 Speaker 3: quite nervous about her nominations because we have talked also 94 00:04:38,904 --> 00:04:43,584 Speaker 3: about her pivot intogoing country, which is we like, there's 95 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:46,464 Speaker 3: so many theories out there on why she decided to 96 00:04:46,464 --> 00:04:51,224 Speaker 3: go country, I guess, versus being pop. She wasn't nominated 97 00:04:51,264 --> 00:04:54,704 Speaker 3: for anything for the American Country Music Awards, which was 98 00:04:54,744 --> 00:04:57,864 Speaker 3: like a huge surprise to everyone. I genuinely thought she'd 99 00:04:57,904 --> 00:05:00,584 Speaker 3: have so many nominations, so I was really happy to 100 00:05:00,584 --> 00:05:03,584 Speaker 3: see that she is being recognized at the Grammys, which 101 00:05:03,624 --> 00:05:05,984 Speaker 3: I guess is like the biggest music award show in 102 00:05:06,024 --> 00:05:06,424 Speaker 3: the world. 103 00:05:06,584 --> 00:05:08,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess the big part of that story 104 00:05:08,424 --> 00:05:10,344 Speaker 1: is to come with the ceremony, because that's thinking about 105 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:12,744 Speaker 1: the Grammys, is that they're very good at nominating Beyonce, 106 00:05:13,024 --> 00:05:15,144 Speaker 1: Like that's never what which goes to show with her 107 00:05:15,184 --> 00:05:17,064 Speaker 1: having that record, They're just not very good at actually 108 00:05:17,144 --> 00:05:19,744 Speaker 1: letting her win the big awards no matter what kind 109 00:05:19,744 --> 00:05:22,384 Speaker 1: of album she puts out. So it'll be interesting if 110 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:25,864 Speaker 1: they're like very aware of the conversation if that kind 111 00:05:25,904 --> 00:05:28,384 Speaker 1: of changes the Grammy voting. But also there's been so 112 00:05:28,424 --> 00:05:32,744 Speaker 1: many allegations against the institution around the Grammys from different 113 00:05:32,824 --> 00:05:35,864 Speaker 1: artists saying that it's corrupt, saying that behind the scenes, 114 00:05:35,904 --> 00:05:38,824 Speaker 1: it's all kind of like paid and people don't vote 115 00:05:38,864 --> 00:05:41,264 Speaker 1: for who they think they vote for, like friends and alliances. 116 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:42,544 Speaker 1: It's all very Game of Thrones. 117 00:05:42,704 --> 00:05:45,944 Speaker 3: I'm also really interested to see, like if we see 118 00:05:45,984 --> 00:05:49,744 Speaker 3: that massive conspiracy theory play out that's happening with Beyonce 119 00:05:49,824 --> 00:05:53,224 Speaker 3: at the moment, where people are saying that if she's 120 00:05:53,304 --> 00:05:56,744 Speaker 3: nominated with other artists and she doesn't win, then the 121 00:05:56,864 --> 00:05:59,224 Speaker 3: artist is obliged to thank her, and if they don't 122 00:05:59,224 --> 00:06:01,264 Speaker 3: thank her, then Beyonce ruins their career. 123 00:06:01,944 --> 00:06:02,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I've seen that. 124 00:06:03,024 --> 00:06:04,624 Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to get so many jokes 125 00:06:04,624 --> 00:06:06,184 Speaker 3: of people just thanking Beyonce and that. 126 00:06:06,264 --> 00:06:08,744 Speaker 1: But I think the reason they they think Beyonce is 127 00:06:08,784 --> 00:06:11,144 Speaker 1: because she's sitting in the audience she does and she 128 00:06:11,384 --> 00:06:14,384 Speaker 1: and you have someone like Adele who, prior to winning 129 00:06:14,384 --> 00:06:17,304 Speaker 1: that award had talked so much in the press about 130 00:06:17,384 --> 00:06:19,944 Speaker 1: what Beyonce's music has meant to her, so winning over 131 00:06:19,984 --> 00:06:22,544 Speaker 1: her does make sense. Like I think any artist who 132 00:06:22,544 --> 00:06:24,784 Speaker 1: gets up there and you're making eye contact with Beyonce. 133 00:06:24,864 --> 00:06:27,224 Speaker 1: Why you receive an award that people thought she should 134 00:06:27,224 --> 00:06:28,624 Speaker 1: have won, you're going to thank her? 135 00:06:28,824 --> 00:06:31,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm quite nervous to watch the awards. I don't 136 00:06:31,344 --> 00:06:34,664 Speaker 3: know why I have such a like personal pull towards Piance, 137 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:38,784 Speaker 3: Like she's not like my favorite artists of all times. 138 00:06:38,864 --> 00:06:39,984 Speaker 3: I think she there's just. 139 00:06:39,904 --> 00:06:41,424 Speaker 1: Been so much she even on the top of she 140 00:06:41,544 --> 00:06:42,784 Speaker 1: up on your list, she's up on the list. Okay, 141 00:06:42,784 --> 00:06:44,824 Speaker 1: she's definitely Spotify top five or she'd be thrilled to 142 00:06:45,184 --> 00:06:48,184 Speaker 1: but it's just so obvious to me that there have 143 00:06:48,344 --> 00:06:51,824 Speaker 1: been so many times where she should have won and hadn't. 144 00:06:51,944 --> 00:06:54,504 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just I just hope she does win 145 00:06:54,544 --> 00:06:56,304 Speaker 1: for this album because it's a brilliant album. There have 146 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:58,784 Speaker 1: also been a few snubs that a lot of people 147 00:06:58,824 --> 00:07:02,264 Speaker 1: are very unhappy about. So Jua Lipa wasn't recognized this 148 00:07:02,344 --> 00:07:05,984 Speaker 1: year with her new album Radical Optimism, which features her 149 00:07:06,024 --> 00:07:08,944 Speaker 1: song her Dini, which was literally played everywhere. So I 150 00:07:08,944 --> 00:07:11,064 Speaker 1: don't know what happened there, Like they forgot that that 151 00:07:11,144 --> 00:07:11,744 Speaker 1: all came out? 152 00:07:11,784 --> 00:07:12,424 Speaker 2: Did they say. 153 00:07:14,344 --> 00:07:15,184 Speaker 3: Tell me all the. 154 00:07:18,464 --> 00:07:18,704 Speaker 1: Catch? 155 00:07:21,304 --> 00:07:24,504 Speaker 3: Twitter has just been trending with Dua Lipa being snubbed 156 00:07:24,504 --> 00:07:26,544 Speaker 3: for like the entire weekend, Like I can't see anything 157 00:07:26,584 --> 00:07:29,584 Speaker 3: else past this. But everyone thought she would be nominated 158 00:07:29,624 --> 00:07:32,664 Speaker 3: for her song Houdini and she didn't get any nominations. Also, 159 00:07:32,864 --> 00:07:35,504 Speaker 3: Meghan the Stallion for hissed nomination. 160 00:07:35,744 --> 00:07:37,704 Speaker 2: I thought that was a huge snub. 161 00:07:37,784 --> 00:07:40,184 Speaker 3: It was a huge snub. It's also like, I think 162 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:43,424 Speaker 3: one of her best disc tracks, yeah made Megan's Lost. 163 00:07:43,464 --> 00:07:44,744 Speaker 3: I don't really know what the part of me is, 164 00:07:44,784 --> 00:07:46,224 Speaker 3: but I get you on me staring. 165 00:07:46,744 --> 00:07:49,744 Speaker 2: She were putty, never going to check me every. 166 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:54,064 Speaker 3: More to dress me. Ariana Grande got nominated for a 167 00:07:54,104 --> 00:07:57,344 Speaker 3: few things, but none in the major categories. And this 168 00:07:57,504 --> 00:07:58,864 Speaker 3: was like an album I think she put out for 169 00:07:58,864 --> 00:07:59,904 Speaker 3: the first time in three years. 170 00:07:59,904 --> 00:08:01,864 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely so she was shut out of the Album 171 00:08:01,864 --> 00:08:03,744 Speaker 1: of the Year and Record of the Year and Song 172 00:08:03,824 --> 00:08:05,744 Speaker 1: of the Year, which are all the really big ones. 173 00:08:05,784 --> 00:08:08,424 Speaker 1: So even though she got nominated in Best Pop Vocal Album, 174 00:08:08,664 --> 00:08:12,224 Speaker 1: Best Pop Duo or Group Performance, and Best Dance Pop Recording, 175 00:08:12,504 --> 00:08:14,824 Speaker 1: it's like if your movie got nominated for a Screenplay, 176 00:08:14,824 --> 00:08:17,144 Speaker 1: which is a great award, but then didn't get nominated 177 00:08:17,144 --> 00:08:19,664 Speaker 1: for Best Actress and Best Picture, which are the really 178 00:08:19,704 --> 00:08:20,224 Speaker 1: big ones. 179 00:08:20,344 --> 00:08:22,144 Speaker 2: To not even being the running is quite a snub. 180 00:08:22,464 --> 00:08:23,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she's got wickets. 181 00:08:23,944 --> 00:08:25,704 Speaker 1: She's fine, well exactly, and I think that's a lot 182 00:08:25,704 --> 00:08:27,904 Speaker 1: of people who are angry as sort of bringing in 183 00:08:27,984 --> 00:08:29,704 Speaker 1: like the high she's on the wicked at the moment. 184 00:08:29,704 --> 00:08:31,344 Speaker 1: But they're just two completely different things. 185 00:08:32,144 --> 00:08:34,984 Speaker 3: It's also a massive year for like the pop girlies, 186 00:08:35,184 --> 00:08:38,304 Speaker 3: So Sabrina Carpenter and Chapel Roone, who I feel like 187 00:08:38,344 --> 00:08:40,224 Speaker 3: we they're the two celebrities that we talked about most 188 00:08:40,384 --> 00:08:43,744 Speaker 3: this year. Yeah, absolutely have both been nominated for Best 189 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:47,184 Speaker 3: New Artist as well as Best Pop Album and Song 190 00:08:47,224 --> 00:08:47,624 Speaker 3: of the Year. 191 00:08:47,744 --> 00:08:49,904 Speaker 1: Best New Artist thing is interesting for both of them 192 00:08:49,944 --> 00:08:52,544 Speaker 1: since they've both been around for a while, right, for 193 00:08:52,584 --> 00:08:54,664 Speaker 1: such a long time, But I guess like it's it's 194 00:08:54,904 --> 00:08:56,904 Speaker 1: when you look at the Grammys rules around it. It's 195 00:08:56,944 --> 00:08:59,304 Speaker 1: around like Best New Artist in terms of like first 196 00:08:59,344 --> 00:09:02,784 Speaker 1: time you've been nominated for the different Grammy sections. And 197 00:09:02,824 --> 00:09:04,984 Speaker 1: even though someone like Sabrina has put out so many 198 00:09:05,304 --> 00:09:07,664 Speaker 1: has been touring for many years and has put out 199 00:09:07,704 --> 00:09:10,064 Speaker 1: so many albums, this is the first time that her 200 00:09:10,144 --> 00:09:13,184 Speaker 1: musze has qualified to be in the Grummy, so technically 201 00:09:13,184 --> 00:09:15,384 Speaker 1: she's a new artist. Did you see the video of 202 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:16,624 Speaker 1: her finding out the news. 203 00:09:16,944 --> 00:09:19,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay, I didn't watch it would sound on, 204 00:09:19,944 --> 00:09:21,184 Speaker 3: which I felt like was a mistake. 205 00:09:21,864 --> 00:09:24,144 Speaker 1: Well, it's just because she so she's sitting in I 206 00:09:24,184 --> 00:09:26,144 Speaker 1: think either backstage or she's in her tearing bus or 207 00:09:26,184 --> 00:09:29,184 Speaker 1: something like you know, minimal makeup hair, like she's you know, 208 00:09:29,224 --> 00:09:30,104 Speaker 1: tearing at the moment. 209 00:09:29,944 --> 00:09:32,264 Speaker 3: Because I all find out, like when we all find Yeah. 210 00:09:32,224 --> 00:09:34,024 Speaker 1: They have to watch the announcement. It's like the it's 211 00:09:34,024 --> 00:09:35,904 Speaker 1: like all the actors getting up early to watch the 212 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:38,144 Speaker 1: broadcast of like the Golden Globes or the Emmys or 213 00:09:38,184 --> 00:09:40,464 Speaker 1: the Oscars, like you find out when it gets announced publicly. 214 00:09:40,944 --> 00:09:43,344 Speaker 1: And Sabrina Carper and it's a really sweet video, just 215 00:09:43,704 --> 00:09:47,104 Speaker 1: absolutely breaks down, like you know, you needed, your whole 216 00:09:47,184 --> 00:09:49,584 Speaker 1: face scrunches up when you cried, you start shaking. It's 217 00:09:49,624 --> 00:09:52,704 Speaker 1: like me watching Wicked. That was home when she found 218 00:09:52,704 --> 00:09:55,304 Speaker 1: out she had a Grabby nomination. It was actually really sweet. 219 00:09:55,384 --> 00:09:57,624 Speaker 3: It's also such a flex to be nominated for Best 220 00:09:57,664 --> 00:09:59,664 Speaker 3: New Artists as well as major category. 221 00:09:59,784 --> 00:10:00,224 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 222 00:10:00,264 --> 00:10:02,344 Speaker 3: At the same time, I really want both of them 223 00:10:02,344 --> 00:10:03,864 Speaker 3: to win. So that's going to be really hard. 224 00:10:03,944 --> 00:10:04,344 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. 225 00:10:04,384 --> 00:10:06,144 Speaker 1: It's hard this year because you've got so many favorites 226 00:10:06,144 --> 00:10:09,304 Speaker 1: in there. I also thought that Charlie XCX reacting to 227 00:10:09,384 --> 00:10:11,344 Speaker 1: her nomine was interesting. 228 00:10:11,464 --> 00:10:14,104 Speaker 3: Charlie XCX has seven nominations this year. 229 00:10:14,224 --> 00:10:17,024 Speaker 1: And she has been shut out in like many years previously. Again, 230 00:10:17,104 --> 00:10:19,384 Speaker 1: she's been doing this for such a long time, and 231 00:10:19,464 --> 00:10:21,744 Speaker 1: that tweet that she put out when she wasn't nominated 232 00:10:21,784 --> 00:10:24,504 Speaker 1: in previous years is going viral. So at the time, 233 00:10:24,544 --> 00:10:26,784 Speaker 1: she put out a tweets saying, me not being nominated 234 00:10:26,784 --> 00:10:28,824 Speaker 1: for a Grammy for Crash is like mea goth not 235 00:10:28,864 --> 00:10:31,624 Speaker 1: being nominated for an Oscar for Pearl and only further 236 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 1: proves that people don't want to see hot evil girls thrive. 237 00:10:35,424 --> 00:10:37,344 Speaker 1: And now she's come And when she got nominated for 238 00:10:37,424 --> 00:10:39,864 Speaker 1: all of the Grammys this year, she came out and said, 239 00:10:39,864 --> 00:10:42,064 Speaker 1: I wrote an album about myself and about my friends, 240 00:10:42,064 --> 00:10:44,544 Speaker 1: and about partying and about all of my problems. I 241 00:10:44,584 --> 00:10:46,664 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if anyone would connect with it. But lucky 242 00:10:46,664 --> 00:10:50,784 Speaker 1: for me, the pendulum of culture swung in favor of messiness, personality, 243 00:10:50,904 --> 00:10:53,224 Speaker 1: and niche, and lots of people didn't end up connecting 244 00:10:53,224 --> 00:10:57,184 Speaker 1: with my songs, probably because they feel as messy and volatile. 245 00:10:56,704 --> 00:10:59,304 Speaker 2: As I do sometimes I agree. Please hit the nail 246 00:10:59,304 --> 00:10:59,664 Speaker 2: on the head. 247 00:10:59,744 --> 00:11:02,064 Speaker 3: The most viral album of the year, hands down that 248 00:11:02,144 --> 00:11:05,384 Speaker 3: Lime Green with the like blurry word brad like word 249 00:11:05,384 --> 00:11:08,384 Speaker 3: of the year as well, Like she absolutely nailed it. 250 00:11:08,424 --> 00:11:10,664 Speaker 3: I definitely think if she didn't get nominated this year, 251 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:17,064 Speaker 3: there'd be riots. Vanity Fair has done an interview with 252 00:11:17,824 --> 00:11:19,904 Speaker 3: Hugh Grant. Let me just read the title to you, Okay, 253 00:11:20,424 --> 00:11:24,664 Speaker 3: So Hugh Grant answers the proud questionnaire the Star of Heretic, 254 00:11:24,744 --> 00:11:26,624 Speaker 3: which is his new movie that's going to come out 255 00:11:26,664 --> 00:11:30,744 Speaker 3: in cinemas soon. The Star of Heretic on his Dearest 256 00:11:30,784 --> 00:11:36,224 Speaker 3: loves in Brackets, Dishonesty, his barbecue, and greatest nemesis, brackets Scissors, 257 00:11:36,264 --> 00:11:42,864 Speaker 3: Colin Firth. This interview is probably my favorite interview I've read. 258 00:11:42,904 --> 00:11:44,744 Speaker 3: We remember when we did that episode on our favorite 259 00:11:44,784 --> 00:11:47,944 Speaker 3: celebrity interview. Yeah, this one takes over the Childish Gabino interview. 260 00:11:48,024 --> 00:11:52,744 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it is so good. He completely lets loose. 261 00:11:52,824 --> 00:11:55,584 Speaker 3: He has no fucks to give. He is so done 262 00:11:55,624 --> 00:11:58,064 Speaker 3: with everything, and I think he's just now just having fun, 263 00:11:58,064 --> 00:12:00,264 Speaker 3: like he just wants to have fun. He's made it. 264 00:12:00,344 --> 00:12:01,944 Speaker 3: He's an a lister, he's been an A lister for 265 00:12:02,064 --> 00:12:03,424 Speaker 3: years before I was even born. 266 00:12:03,944 --> 00:12:06,464 Speaker 2: He actually has been literally before you were born. 267 00:12:06,504 --> 00:12:09,264 Speaker 3: Literally, So I think he's now finally like you know 268 00:12:09,304 --> 00:12:10,104 Speaker 3: what it is? 269 00:12:10,104 --> 00:12:10,704 Speaker 2: What it is. 270 00:12:10,784 --> 00:12:12,824 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go with the flow. I don't need 271 00:12:12,864 --> 00:12:14,984 Speaker 3: to do hard promo. I can just do whatever I want. 272 00:12:15,264 --> 00:12:17,584 Speaker 3: And this is exactly what there's interview captures. So it's 273 00:12:17,784 --> 00:12:20,784 Speaker 3: very short, and that's mainly because the questions are short, 274 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:23,064 Speaker 3: but also his answers are very short. So I want 275 00:12:23,064 --> 00:12:24,664 Speaker 3: to read you out some of my favorites. 276 00:12:24,664 --> 00:12:26,424 Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, yeah, I haven't looked at this 277 00:12:26,704 --> 00:12:27,224 Speaker 2: prior to this. 278 00:12:27,384 --> 00:12:29,504 Speaker 3: I could honestly read out the entire interview and it 279 00:12:29,504 --> 00:12:31,464 Speaker 3: would still be like, really a short segment. 280 00:12:31,544 --> 00:12:32,824 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not stopping from doing that. 281 00:12:32,864 --> 00:12:35,584 Speaker 3: I'll read, I'll read up my face. Okay, what is 282 00:12:35,584 --> 00:12:39,424 Speaker 3: your favorite occupation? I have recently fallen in love with barbecuing. 283 00:12:39,624 --> 00:12:42,184 Speaker 3: I love to undercook chicken and give my family worms. 284 00:12:43,944 --> 00:12:47,024 Speaker 2: What is it? So many kids? Now? This is such 285 00:12:47,024 --> 00:12:50,904 Speaker 2: a good vibe that it blows my mind. Wow, because 286 00:12:50,904 --> 00:12:52,784 Speaker 2: I've never heard anything about that. He always talks about 287 00:12:52,784 --> 00:12:53,704 Speaker 2: being a late bloomer. 288 00:12:53,704 --> 00:12:55,904 Speaker 1: That cute little Hugh Grant because he didn't really stop 289 00:12:55,904 --> 00:12:58,344 Speaker 1: getting famous until he was in his thirties, which shouldn't 290 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:00,144 Speaker 1: feel late, but I guess back then it was everyone 291 00:13:00,224 --> 00:13:02,304 Speaker 1: kind of getting famous when they were like especially you know, 292 00:13:02,584 --> 00:13:04,184 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen twenties. 293 00:13:03,904 --> 00:13:06,264 Speaker 3: Is that like Jones's days or before that? 294 00:13:06,344 --> 00:13:08,344 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, before that, like Four Weddings Funeral was 295 00:13:08,384 --> 00:13:11,384 Speaker 1: his first big, big leading role and then and you know, 296 00:13:11,424 --> 00:13:12,784 Speaker 1: he was kind of just the sweet guy. 297 00:13:12,784 --> 00:13:14,744 Speaker 2: But actually he was never really the sweet. 298 00:13:14,424 --> 00:13:17,144 Speaker 1: Guy because I mean I didn't like him when he 299 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:19,264 Speaker 1: lives Hurley rocked up to that premiere and she was 300 00:13:19,304 --> 00:13:21,104 Speaker 1: in the safety pin dress like that was such a 301 00:13:21,184 --> 00:13:21,624 Speaker 1: huge thing. 302 00:13:21,944 --> 00:13:24,104 Speaker 2: And then their relationship was so infamous. 303 00:13:24,144 --> 00:13:26,464 Speaker 1: And then he got caught with the sex worker in 304 00:13:26,504 --> 00:13:28,664 Speaker 1: the car and that was a huge thing. 305 00:13:28,744 --> 00:13:31,024 Speaker 3: And the phone of the La Strip the busiest strip 306 00:13:31,064 --> 00:13:31,504 Speaker 3: in the world. 307 00:13:31,704 --> 00:13:33,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was like, you know, crazy head and 308 00:13:33,904 --> 00:13:35,064 Speaker 1: his sexy headshirt. 309 00:13:35,704 --> 00:13:35,944 Speaker 2: Yeah. 310 00:13:35,944 --> 00:13:37,944 Speaker 1: And then he started playing bad guys in movies and 311 00:13:37,944 --> 00:13:40,384 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, it's so it's so like against type 312 00:13:40,424 --> 00:13:42,424 Speaker 1: for him, and I'm like, really, we only ever known 313 00:13:42,464 --> 00:13:43,584 Speaker 1: this man as being like a cat. 314 00:13:43,984 --> 00:13:44,344 Speaker 2: Yeah. 315 00:13:44,584 --> 00:13:48,184 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll give you that. Okay, what is the 316 00:13:48,264 --> 00:13:52,024 Speaker 3: trait you most deplore in others telling me the menu 317 00:13:52,144 --> 00:13:54,904 Speaker 3: is only accessible through the QR code. This is so 318 00:13:54,984 --> 00:13:56,664 Speaker 3: boomer like, that is my mum. 319 00:13:57,064 --> 00:13:59,544 Speaker 2: I love a QR current come out. 320 00:13:59,744 --> 00:14:01,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so nice just to go and you can 321 00:14:01,184 --> 00:14:02,464 Speaker 1: like add things and take them off for that having 322 00:14:02,504 --> 00:14:03,424 Speaker 1: to explain to someone. 323 00:14:03,704 --> 00:14:04,144 Speaker 2: I love it. 324 00:14:04,224 --> 00:14:07,264 Speaker 3: Okay, this answer. So they asked, what is your idea 325 00:14:07,384 --> 00:14:10,464 Speaker 3: of perfect happiness and he said, drinking a pint of 326 00:14:10,504 --> 00:14:13,784 Speaker 3: London Pride while munching twiglets and reading about Colin Firth 327 00:14:13,824 --> 00:14:16,704 Speaker 3: having a critical and box office catastrophe. 328 00:14:19,944 --> 00:14:23,064 Speaker 2: Critical and books of castrophe. But he's got to do 329 00:14:23,104 --> 00:14:25,704 Speaker 2: it with a pint. Oh my god. I think I 330 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:26,224 Speaker 2: feel like. 331 00:14:28,464 --> 00:14:30,544 Speaker 1: The thing is obviously those two. I feel like they 332 00:14:30,544 --> 00:14:33,064 Speaker 1: do have a friendship behind the scene, surely. Yeah, so 333 00:14:33,064 --> 00:14:37,224 Speaker 1: I think that's why he feels very comfortable. Actually have 334 00:14:37,384 --> 00:14:38,944 Speaker 1: had you know, they've been in a lot of movies 335 00:14:38,984 --> 00:14:41,024 Speaker 1: together and for so long they were the two British 336 00:14:41,024 --> 00:14:44,144 Speaker 1: peanut boys for decades, two British hoties. They probably have 337 00:14:44,144 --> 00:14:46,224 Speaker 1: a complicated relationship behind the scene. 338 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:47,504 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got three more questions. 339 00:14:47,544 --> 00:14:47,824 Speaker 2: Okay. 340 00:14:48,464 --> 00:14:50,664 Speaker 3: They asked what would you like to live. 341 00:14:51,984 --> 00:14:52,904 Speaker 2: And he said. 342 00:14:54,304 --> 00:14:55,704 Speaker 3: This, I only put this question, And I don't know 343 00:14:55,704 --> 00:14:56,144 Speaker 3: if it's funny. 344 00:14:56,144 --> 00:14:57,824 Speaker 2: I only put it in because it's the most related, right, No, 345 00:14:57,904 --> 00:14:59,264 Speaker 2: back yourself, come on, Okay. 346 00:14:59,704 --> 00:15:02,464 Speaker 3: In Maria's Abbey, in the Sound of Music, the Piece, 347 00:15:02,584 --> 00:15:06,264 Speaker 3: the Mother Superior, that's my favorite movie. 348 00:15:06,784 --> 00:15:08,504 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's his favorite movie as well. 349 00:15:08,704 --> 00:15:12,984 Speaker 3: Okay, what is your most characteristic And he said, thinly 350 00:15:13,104 --> 00:15:13,824 Speaker 3: veiled fury. 351 00:15:14,744 --> 00:15:16,424 Speaker 2: It's not that thinly veiled anymore. 352 00:15:16,464 --> 00:15:18,424 Speaker 3: But I feel like you're starting to understand how we 353 00:15:18,464 --> 00:15:19,064 Speaker 3: perceive him. 354 00:15:19,184 --> 00:15:21,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely leaning in now. But there's so many interviews, 355 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:23,984 Speaker 1: especially when he was kind of out of the spotlight 356 00:15:23,984 --> 00:15:25,424 Speaker 1: for a while and he came back and started doing 357 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:27,584 Speaker 1: a lot of press for different movies that you know 358 00:15:27,624 --> 00:15:29,624 Speaker 1: you'd see on a red carpet or in a junket. 359 00:15:29,624 --> 00:15:31,184 Speaker 1: And I do it too, Like you just get so 360 00:15:31,344 --> 00:15:34,144 Speaker 1: you're so happy and bubbly and smiley, because as the 361 00:15:34,184 --> 00:15:35,864 Speaker 1: interview you're trying to turn it on for the camera. 362 00:15:36,104 --> 00:15:38,144 Speaker 1: And in all those interviews when they pan across to 363 00:15:38,184 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 1: his face and he just looks both dead behind the 364 00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:43,744 Speaker 1: eyes and absolutely furious and like the person hasn't even 365 00:15:43,744 --> 00:15:44,824 Speaker 1: asked a question yet. 366 00:15:45,304 --> 00:15:49,344 Speaker 3: It's just so Yeah, Okay, last question, what do your 367 00:15:49,384 --> 00:15:53,304 Speaker 3: most value in your friends? And his answer was failure, unhappiness, 368 00:15:54,304 --> 00:15:55,944 Speaker 3: which I feel like is quite relatable. 369 00:15:56,504 --> 00:15:58,664 Speaker 1: He's definitely leaning into this stick now and it is 370 00:15:58,744 --> 00:16:00,624 Speaker 1: it is such a stick, but he's just getting good 371 00:16:00,664 --> 00:16:03,264 Speaker 1: headlines out of it, and people are warming. If that 372 00:16:03,344 --> 00:16:06,064 Speaker 1: was anyone else, this is always saying recently, it's okay, 373 00:16:06,064 --> 00:16:07,784 Speaker 1: it's a weird line to draw a chapel row into this, 374 00:16:08,104 --> 00:16:10,384 Speaker 1: but like people are so angry at not an I 375 00:16:10,464 --> 00:16:13,744 Speaker 1: get a young woman doing this, well not, I know 376 00:16:13,824 --> 00:16:16,184 Speaker 1: this is a long bow to draw, but with tapel rude, 377 00:16:16,304 --> 00:16:18,504 Speaker 1: not that she's being rude in interviews or anything like that. 378 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:20,584 Speaker 1: Like he's doing he's doing it for the he's doing 379 00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:22,064 Speaker 1: it for a bit. Yeah, he's doing it for the 380 00:16:22,064 --> 00:16:25,464 Speaker 1: bit and for the performance. But she's not wanting to 381 00:16:25,464 --> 00:16:28,144 Speaker 1: be interviewed in some circumstances and drawing boundaries for fans, 382 00:16:28,344 --> 00:16:30,344 Speaker 1: not liking some of the sides that come with fame. 383 00:16:30,664 --> 00:16:32,704 Speaker 1: But no one thinks she's earned it because she's only 384 00:16:32,704 --> 00:16:35,024 Speaker 1: a few years into her career. But with someone like 385 00:16:35,104 --> 00:16:37,744 Speaker 1: Hugh Grant, when he pushes back against the things that 386 00:16:37,784 --> 00:16:40,784 Speaker 1: you have to do for fame, red carpets, junkets, all 387 00:16:40,784 --> 00:16:43,624 Speaker 1: those sort of things. Everyone's a bit like, Oh, he's 388 00:16:43,664 --> 00:16:45,944 Speaker 1: been famous for such a long time, he's earned the 389 00:16:46,024 --> 00:16:47,144 Speaker 1: right to act like this. 390 00:16:47,384 --> 00:16:49,624 Speaker 3: But it's true, is it not true? Like I feel 391 00:16:49,624 --> 00:16:53,664 Speaker 3: like even if he did this interview like five years ago, 392 00:16:53,784 --> 00:16:55,984 Speaker 3: I'd still be a bit like, Oh, he's so up himself, 393 00:16:55,984 --> 00:16:58,544 Speaker 3: he's so egotistical, because he has talked about in an interview. 394 00:16:58,584 --> 00:17:00,704 Speaker 3: I think one of the questions was like, what do 395 00:17:00,744 --> 00:17:02,704 Speaker 3: you not like most about yourself? And he talked about 396 00:17:02,744 --> 00:17:05,624 Speaker 3: like being gray. Yeah, And I'm like, there's something about 397 00:17:05,664 --> 00:17:08,184 Speaker 3: like seeing a man like go gray where it's just 398 00:17:08,304 --> 00:17:11,824 Speaker 3: like you just immediately associate the word wise too. Yeah, 399 00:17:11,864 --> 00:17:13,344 Speaker 3: they can get away with doing more. 400 00:17:13,464 --> 00:17:15,464 Speaker 1: And I do believe that he doesn't want to play 401 00:17:15,624 --> 00:17:19,944 Speaker 1: like that kind of foppish, you know, blushing romcom lead anymore. 402 00:17:19,984 --> 00:17:22,504 Speaker 1: And he's but as he's pointed out, also, no one's 403 00:17:22,544 --> 00:17:24,944 Speaker 1: offering him that anymore. Yeah, he has to play the 404 00:17:25,024 --> 00:17:28,544 Speaker 1: villain or like, you know, the scandalous older husband and stuff, 405 00:17:28,544 --> 00:17:29,224 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's fun. 406 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:31,544 Speaker 3: I don't want an award, but I guess I'll have 407 00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:32,264 Speaker 3: to get one. 408 00:17:32,104 --> 00:17:33,344 Speaker 2: Now for doing this. 409 00:17:33,464 --> 00:17:35,944 Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think now he's realized he kind 410 00:17:35,944 --> 00:17:37,944 Speaker 1: of tested the waters a little bit. It's like when 411 00:17:37,944 --> 00:17:39,344 Speaker 1: he went on that huge round about all of his 412 00:17:39,424 --> 00:17:41,664 Speaker 1: co stars, remember that a few years ago. He was like, 413 00:17:41,984 --> 00:17:46,344 Speaker 1: Rachel Weiss hates me, Drew Barrymore stand me, Sandra Bullock 414 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:48,504 Speaker 1: thinks I'm crazy, all this kind of stuff, and just 415 00:17:48,544 --> 00:17:52,264 Speaker 1: listed every co star, And afterwards he got brought up 416 00:17:52,264 --> 00:17:53,904 Speaker 1: an interview and he's like, I don't know why I 417 00:17:53,904 --> 00:17:56,864 Speaker 1: said that. Most of them don't hate me. He said, 418 00:17:56,904 --> 00:17:59,424 Speaker 1: Julian Robert's mouth was too big to kiss, and I'm like, 419 00:17:59,424 --> 00:18:01,264 Speaker 1: I draw the line at that. Stop it here, but 420 00:18:01,304 --> 00:18:03,464 Speaker 1: a few of them he does. So he says that 421 00:18:03,544 --> 00:18:05,584 Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore altho. They've since made up. But they did 422 00:18:05,624 --> 00:18:07,584 Speaker 1: that movie music and lyrics together. 423 00:18:07,704 --> 00:18:10,584 Speaker 3: I love that movie, and then everything that happened after 424 00:18:10,624 --> 00:18:11,744 Speaker 3: that just ruined it for me. 425 00:18:11,944 --> 00:18:14,624 Speaker 1: She gave him notes, he said, and then he pushed 426 00:18:14,624 --> 00:18:16,224 Speaker 1: back on her and said, how dare you? And she's 427 00:18:16,544 --> 00:18:19,304 Speaker 1: crying music notes, and yeah, exactly, she gave him notes 428 00:18:19,344 --> 00:18:20,824 Speaker 1: on his character. And it was so funny because I 429 00:18:20,904 --> 00:18:22,864 Speaker 1: remembered so clearly. They were on The Graame Norn Show 430 00:18:22,864 --> 00:18:24,624 Speaker 1: and Meryl Streep and Hugh Grant were in a movie 431 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:27,384 Speaker 1: together and they were like, can't believe you made Drew 432 00:18:27,424 --> 00:18:28,104 Speaker 1: Barrymore crying. 433 00:18:28,224 --> 00:18:30,504 Speaker 2: He's like, well, she gave me notes, how would you react? 434 00:18:30,624 --> 00:18:34,584 Speaker 1: And Meryl Streep goes, who has said nothing the whole interview, goes, 435 00:18:34,784 --> 00:18:36,224 Speaker 1: I took it fine when you did it to me. 436 00:18:36,464 --> 00:18:40,864 Speaker 3: Oh what if the women shutting down men on the Craton. 437 00:18:40,184 --> 00:18:42,784 Speaker 1: Show, it's because the chat's going. I think they forget 438 00:18:42,784 --> 00:18:44,464 Speaker 1: what's happening. And I was like, sir, I can't believe 439 00:18:44,464 --> 00:18:48,544 Speaker 1: you're at here giving a relection Meryl Street notes, can 440 00:18:48,624 --> 00:18:49,664 Speaker 1: you imagine? 441 00:18:50,344 --> 00:18:52,664 Speaker 2: And he's out here ripping Drew Barrymore. 442 00:18:52,264 --> 00:18:55,064 Speaker 1: For doing it, and I was like, you're dashing down, okay, 443 00:18:55,104 --> 00:18:56,744 Speaker 1: And Meryl Streitch just laughing because the thing is she 444 00:18:56,744 --> 00:18:58,984 Speaker 1: wins in every conversation. But look, whether he's she be 445 00:18:59,064 --> 00:19:00,624 Speaker 1: able to do it or not. I'm just loving this 446 00:19:00,744 --> 00:19:02,544 Speaker 1: eraror of Hugh Grant, just saying. 447 00:19:02,504 --> 00:19:03,624 Speaker 2: What were we talking the other day with? 448 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:05,744 Speaker 1: Like people, everyone's being so critiqued and no one can 449 00:19:05,784 --> 00:19:07,904 Speaker 1: do anything, and if anyone steps out of line of 450 00:19:07,944 --> 00:19:11,024 Speaker 1: being a perfect person, we attack the celebrities, but at 451 00:19:11,024 --> 00:19:13,224 Speaker 1: the same time we look to them to be entertaining. 452 00:19:13,744 --> 00:19:15,304 Speaker 3: No, it's time for the Subway to have fun. 453 00:19:15,344 --> 00:19:17,144 Speaker 1: And I think also maybe when they get a little 454 00:19:17,144 --> 00:19:20,264 Speaker 1: bit older and they've solidified their brand, no one really cares. 455 00:19:20,264 --> 00:19:22,104 Speaker 1: Is make me think of this story about Martha Stewart 456 00:19:22,104 --> 00:19:23,544 Speaker 1: that's been I don't know if you've seen this going on, 457 00:19:23,744 --> 00:19:26,624 Speaker 1: freaking going all over the place over the weekend. So 458 00:19:26,944 --> 00:19:29,184 Speaker 1: you know, she has that new Netflix documentary which we 459 00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:32,944 Speaker 1: touched on, but she goes hard about this journalist in 460 00:19:32,944 --> 00:19:35,744 Speaker 1: the documentary, and she gave some interviews afterwards where she 461 00:19:35,824 --> 00:19:39,464 Speaker 1: was going hard at this journalist. And in the documentary 462 00:19:39,504 --> 00:19:42,224 Speaker 1: she says, talking about her court case, she says, this 463 00:19:42,304 --> 00:19:44,864 Speaker 1: New York Post lady was there just looking so smug. 464 00:19:44,904 --> 00:19:47,304 Speaker 1: She had written horrible things about me the entire trial. 465 00:19:47,584 --> 00:19:50,424 Speaker 1: But she's dead now, thank goodness, and nobody has to 466 00:19:50,424 --> 00:19:51,224 Speaker 1: put up with that crap. 467 00:19:51,304 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 2: She was writing all the time. 468 00:19:52,784 --> 00:19:56,344 Speaker 1: And then the interviews afterwards, people would ask her like, oh, 469 00:19:56,424 --> 00:19:58,584 Speaker 1: you were like happy that woman was dead. She's like, yeah, 470 00:19:58,584 --> 00:20:00,984 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that she's dead, Like she's so smug. 471 00:20:01,504 --> 00:20:05,384 Speaker 1: The journalist in question is called Andrea Pasa and spoiler 472 00:20:05,384 --> 00:20:06,504 Speaker 1: aler she's not dead. 473 00:20:12,104 --> 00:20:14,304 Speaker 2: She wrote a piece for New York Times and said, 474 00:20:14,584 --> 00:20:20,984 Speaker 2: I'm alive, bitch. It's so good. She's like, I'm alive, bitch, 475 00:20:21,144 --> 00:20:22,264 Speaker 2: news of my passing. 476 00:20:23,944 --> 00:20:26,904 Speaker 1: He's in there, like sixties. I think news of my 477 00:20:26,984 --> 00:20:29,624 Speaker 1: passing came as a shock. Should I be scared about 478 00:20:29,624 --> 00:20:33,104 Speaker 1: continuing to write that crap? And now Martha Stewart won't respond, 479 00:20:33,224 --> 00:20:34,504 Speaker 1: But I don't care about this anymore. 480 00:20:34,544 --> 00:20:37,624 Speaker 3: This is a journalist dream, Yeah, for a celebrity to 481 00:20:37,664 --> 00:20:40,024 Speaker 3: announce your death and then having to write. 482 00:20:39,784 --> 00:20:43,224 Speaker 1: A comeback ragging on you and not even saying like, oh, 483 00:20:43,344 --> 00:20:45,584 Speaker 1: you know, she was, you know, awful the time, but 484 00:20:45,584 --> 00:20:47,784 Speaker 1: I heard she passed away, which is really sad. She's 485 00:20:47,824 --> 00:20:49,544 Speaker 1: like she's dead now, I thank goodness. And I have 486 00:20:49,544 --> 00:20:51,664 Speaker 1: to put up with that crap. And this woman's like, 487 00:20:51,744 --> 00:20:54,584 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely not dead. Not only am I not dead, 488 00:20:54,584 --> 00:20:55,464 Speaker 1: but I'm still working. 489 00:20:57,184 --> 00:20:58,744 Speaker 3: She forgot to say to me, dead to me? 490 00:20:58,944 --> 00:21:02,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, dead to me. But everyone's seeing that and was like, Martha's. 491 00:21:03,064 --> 00:21:04,784 Speaker 3: I want to leave the studio right now and read 492 00:21:04,824 --> 00:21:05,264 Speaker 3: that piece. 493 00:21:05,384 --> 00:21:06,944 Speaker 2: Yeah. 494 00:21:06,984 --> 00:21:09,784 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 495 00:21:09,864 --> 00:21:12,544 Speaker 3: If you're miss any of our episodes. Last week, we 496 00:21:12,584 --> 00:21:16,184 Speaker 3: did a very special local episode on the Block. We 497 00:21:16,224 --> 00:21:19,704 Speaker 3: also had our entertainment editor Tina Burke in to kind 498 00:21:19,744 --> 00:21:21,744 Speaker 3: of like tell us everything that's happened on the block, 499 00:21:21,784 --> 00:21:23,864 Speaker 3: and then we immediately went and watched the show. We 500 00:21:23,904 --> 00:21:26,624 Speaker 3: will link that episode in our show notes and we 501 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:28,584 Speaker 3: will be back here on your podcast speed at three 502 00:21:28,664 --> 00:21:29,384 Speaker 3: DM tomorrow. 503 00:21:29,584 --> 00:21:32,744 Speaker 2: Bye Bye No