Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.
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Speaker 2: each year, Yet too many suffer in silence.
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Speaker 4: I have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to
Speaker 4: do with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
Speaker 4: I feel like we don't really know how to deal
Speaker 4: with it. We just kind of get up and just
Speaker 4: seize the day. It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 5: Soldier on two people, One big reveal. I Never Told
Speaker 5: You This a simple card game where one question could
Speaker 5: change everything.
Speaker 1: It starts LI whats more things brings you enjoying?
Speaker 3: I'm not going to answer that.
Speaker 5: Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever.
Speaker 5: As they finished this sentence, I never told you this.
Speaker 3: I've never told you. They never told you this.
Speaker 5: Today, Reality TV influences mother and daughter duo Mary and
Speaker 5: Martha Califdidas will be sitting down together.
Speaker 3: Quite nervous, but I'm always nervous.
Speaker 5: Mary has something big to reveal to her daughter.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's expecting me to say what I'm
Speaker 3: going to say. Welcome, Martha.
Speaker 1: Oh, thanks for having me Mary. This is a bit
Speaker 1: new for us. I know.
Speaker 3: Welcome. So today we're going to play a little game
Speaker 3: with the Medibank family roast cards. Are you ready to play?
Speaker 4: Yes, let's get into this game. I think we need
Speaker 4: a little game.
Speaker 3: So who picks?
Speaker 1: Maybe you go for it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: Oh? What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you ever followed?
Speaker 4: Those thick fat belts that were like a boob trip
Speaker 4: and we'd wear them over the jeans. That has to
Speaker 4: be one of the ugliest things I ever did. I'm
Speaker 4: five foot and that made me four foot two.
Speaker 3: I probably told you, but you wouldn't probably listen.
Speaker 1: Here we go. She had to throw that one in
Speaker 1: my face.
Speaker 3: Just saying kid, just saying all right.
Speaker 4: So I'll pick a card. Oh, what is something I
Speaker 4: do that grosses you out? I don't think you do
Speaker 4: anything they do not.
Speaker 1: No, that's right, good answer, Mary. What about me? I
Speaker 1: don't because I can say so many things.
Speaker 3: I bring it to the table. Cutting your cuticles, well,
Speaker 3: that's just like meditation.
Speaker 4: If you go and get that done and then you
Speaker 4: like to do more and just keep cutting the cuticles,
Speaker 4: it must be a nervous It's definitely a nervous habit.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take that, all right, go next? Oh is
Speaker 3: that me? What do you think your most useless talent is?
Speaker 3: You got plenty of those.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've got any. I just there's no
Speaker 1: time for uselessness in our family.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: What about how you.
Speaker 4: Can you start singing every single commercial song that's ever
Speaker 4: come on since like nineteen eighty fifties from the Earth.
Speaker 3: I'm going to pick the next card. I never told
Speaker 3: you this. When you went on reality TV, all these
Speaker 3: comments would come in on social media. It actually affected me,
Speaker 3: but I didn't want to show you that it was
Speaker 3: affecting me. All these comments that were coming in, and
Speaker 3: I'd be staying up till three four in the morning
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize how toxic social media can be.
Speaker 3: I didn't know as a parent how I can comfort you.
Speaker 4: No, I can totally understand how that would have affected you.
Speaker 4: With the trolls on the internet, they think they know me,
Speaker 4: but you really know me, and so you were reading
Speaker 4: things that weren't true, and then that would be just
Speaker 4: endless cycle.
Speaker 3: Now you're a parent, and I'm sure you would probably
Speaker 3: do the.
Speaker 4: Same now that I'm a parent, I just want to
Speaker 4: protect him from.
Speaker 3: Everything I could only imagine. And that's why I didn't
Speaker 3: want to burden you with I've got anxiety, I can't sleep,
Speaker 3: I was I had shortness of breath, like I was thinking, Mum,
Speaker 3: don't yeah, but that's how it was.
Speaker 1: I think to.
Speaker 4: Some degree I did have some idea, because you did
Speaker 4: start acting really strange. I definitely think. I know you
Speaker 4: were staying up really late looking at comments, and I
Speaker 4: remember just being too like, don't worry about it, man,
Speaker 4: like it's fine. But I think at the time I
Speaker 4: didn't want to show you either that it was affecting me,
Speaker 4: so I would just say oh to you, like it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter, but really, like I would be in my
Speaker 4: room staying up breading the comments as well. So I
Speaker 4: have anxiety myself. I don't even know what to do
Speaker 4: with it. Do you know how to deal with it?
Speaker 4: I feel like we don't really know how to deal
Speaker 4: with it. We just kind of move on with the
Speaker 4: day and just keep the day going. But doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that the anxiety.
Speaker 1: Goes away.
Speaker 2: The rest of this episode of I never told you
Speaker 2: this right after the break.
Speaker 3: Thinking back, I should have just been more open and
Speaker 3: told you, like, you know what, it's normal to feel
Speaker 3: this way, because I'm feeling this way. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: if this had done that, we probably would have been
Speaker 3: able to, you know, commute and pack it and then
Speaker 3: just deal with it in the open instead of dealing
Speaker 3: with it separately in.
Speaker 1: Our different rooms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's very That's very much what our family does,
Speaker 4: though we're not very good at revealing, which is strange
Speaker 4: because we're so open. That's about everything about movements and everything,
Speaker 4: because we've brought up to be like quite hard.
Speaker 1: And like strong and t body.
Speaker 3: No, you can't get over it, get up.
Speaker 1: And just seize the day. It doesn't matter how you're feeling.
Speaker 1: Soldier on.
Speaker 3: When I was growing up, our parents were very strict.
Speaker 3: They never showed emotion. They never you know, I.
Speaker 1: Just find that hard to believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is like the most softest, sweetest, gentlest, emotional,
Speaker 4: loving caring.
Speaker 3: It wasn't when we were growing up.
Speaker 1: I just find it hard to believe she was strict.
Speaker 1: Get up. See what old age does? It really soft?
Speaker 3: It breaks you down with like searching and being like
Speaker 3: my own little detective. I noticed that a lot of
Speaker 3: these comments weren't coming from young kids that were just
Speaker 3: being mean. These were from parents that had kids. How
Speaker 3: could you try and destroy someone else's child. People want
Speaker 3: kids to be kind, but they don't teach them the
Speaker 3: tools to be kind and not to bring other people down.
Speaker 3: You know, like kids are mean today. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I learn that from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. The parents are the
Speaker 3: ones that need to actually change.
Speaker 4: I kind of feel a bit sad for you in
Speaker 4: a way that you kind of dealt with that on
Speaker 4: your own.
Speaker 3: That's what parents do, you know. They try to protect
Speaker 3: I think their kids as much as they can. You know,
Speaker 3: So if your son was dealing with anxiety, how would
Speaker 3: you help him?
Speaker 1: Growing up?
Speaker 4: You always said those that matter don't mind, and those
Speaker 4: that mind don't matter. It doesn't really matter because who
Speaker 4: are these people to you? As long as like you know, you,
Speaker 4: your friends, your family, the people that you care about,
Speaker 4: the opinions of others don't really matter.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: At least you've got something, something stuck from all those years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not easy being a parent.
Speaker 4: It's so not it's the hardest thing ever. It's so
Speaker 4: not easy being a parent. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Mary, No worries any time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's nice to know that you're human under all that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's nice to know that under all there there is
Speaker 4: actually some flesh and blood.
Speaker 1: Well done, fish pump.
Speaker 3: Oh is that something we do still?
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