1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,864 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,904 --> 00:00:30,224 Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney 5 00:00:30,304 --> 00:00:33,784 Speaker 1: and I'm m Burnham and coming up on the show today. Look, 6 00:00:33,824 --> 00:00:35,784 Speaker 1: you guys have been asking it in my dms. At 7 00:00:35,824 --> 00:00:37,944 Speaker 1: least I've been had about at least twenty in the 8 00:00:37,984 --> 00:00:40,064 Speaker 1: last oh no, that's not even a joke, in the 9 00:00:40,144 --> 00:00:42,304 Speaker 1: last two months, So ten a month isn't too bad. 10 00:00:42,744 --> 00:00:45,264 Speaker 1: We are talking about not just our favorite books of 11 00:00:45,264 --> 00:00:47,384 Speaker 1: all time. That's a separate topic. Actually we did an 12 00:00:47,424 --> 00:00:49,384 Speaker 1: episode on that. I'll link in the show notes. We 13 00:00:49,504 --> 00:00:51,704 Speaker 1: are doing the books that will get you out of 14 00:00:51,704 --> 00:00:54,504 Speaker 1: a reading slump. We've all been there, Like you're an 15 00:00:54,544 --> 00:00:57,344 Speaker 1: avid reader and then like life gets busy or now 16 00:00:57,424 --> 00:00:59,144 Speaker 1: you know, we're watching our phones, we go down a 17 00:00:59,184 --> 00:01:01,664 Speaker 1: TikTok a rabbit hole at nine instead of reading, and 18 00:01:01,704 --> 00:01:03,584 Speaker 1: then you try and pick up a book. It's whatever 19 00:01:03,624 --> 00:01:05,744 Speaker 1: book is trending at the moment, and you try and 20 00:01:05,784 --> 00:01:07,704 Speaker 1: read it and you're like, this is hard, and I 21 00:01:07,744 --> 00:01:09,664 Speaker 1: hate it and I don't want to do it, and 22 00:01:09,704 --> 00:01:11,544 Speaker 1: then you're kind of out of reading for a while 23 00:01:11,584 --> 00:01:14,504 Speaker 1: because your mind is not leading you there and you've 24 00:01:14,544 --> 00:01:17,064 Speaker 1: had a bad experience. And then we've all also been 25 00:01:17,144 --> 00:01:19,384 Speaker 1: here where you pick up that one book and it 26 00:01:19,504 --> 00:01:22,104 Speaker 1: draws you in so intently and you read it all 27 00:01:22,144 --> 00:01:24,384 Speaker 1: in one go, You stay up late, you read it 28 00:01:24,424 --> 00:01:26,024 Speaker 1: at work when you should be working. I mean, I've 29 00:01:26,024 --> 00:01:29,144 Speaker 1: never done that, but others might have. I mean I 30 00:01:29,184 --> 00:01:31,064 Speaker 1: was looking down and I said it. And so we're 31 00:01:31,064 --> 00:01:33,064 Speaker 1: going to take you through those books today, the books 32 00:01:33,064 --> 00:01:35,384 Speaker 1: that will keep you turning the pages, the books that 33 00:01:35,424 --> 00:01:37,384 Speaker 1: you'll finish in the middle of the night, just the 34 00:01:37,384 --> 00:01:39,424 Speaker 1: books that will get you back into reading. So as 35 00:01:39,464 --> 00:01:41,224 Speaker 1: soon as you finish that, you look run to your 36 00:01:41,224 --> 00:01:43,744 Speaker 1: bookshelf and you think, what am I going to read next? 37 00:01:44,304 --> 00:01:46,064 Speaker 2: I love that? Okay? Can I go first? 38 00:01:46,184 --> 00:01:46,384 Speaker 1: Yes? 39 00:01:47,384 --> 00:01:50,544 Speaker 2: This one. I kind of cheated because the only reason 40 00:01:50,584 --> 00:01:52,944 Speaker 2: I have this on my list was because our producer 41 00:01:53,064 --> 00:01:55,424 Speaker 2: Kim asked us, Hey, I need a book to get 42 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:57,584 Speaker 2: me out of a reading slump, and you recommended this 43 00:01:57,624 --> 00:01:58,384 Speaker 2: book and I was like. 44 00:01:58,544 --> 00:02:00,544 Speaker 1: Oh, And I also told her I'd bring it in 45 00:02:00,784 --> 00:02:02,624 Speaker 1: like three days, but I have it. 46 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:04,584 Speaker 2: That's a double whammy because I'm talking about it. Plus 47 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:06,184 Speaker 2: I'm calling you out for not bringing in that. 48 00:02:06,264 --> 00:02:08,864 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, producer him. Someone messaged me when I'm 49 00:02:08,864 --> 00:02:10,704 Speaker 1: at home to put it in my bag. We will. 50 00:02:10,744 --> 00:02:12,704 Speaker 2: I'll put that on my to do thank you. So 51 00:02:13,024 --> 00:02:15,024 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kim. But now you're just gonna hear about 52 00:02:15,064 --> 00:02:18,024 Speaker 2: how good this book is, how badly you should be 53 00:02:18,024 --> 00:02:20,424 Speaker 2: reading it if you ever get the chance to. So 54 00:02:20,504 --> 00:02:23,784 Speaker 2: the book I am talking about is romantic comedy. Oh 55 00:02:23,864 --> 00:02:25,104 Speaker 2: my god, I love. 56 00:02:24,904 --> 00:02:28,184 Speaker 1: This book so much. I just got to literally just 57 00:02:28,184 --> 00:02:29,504 Speaker 1: got a chill. If he's saying that. 58 00:02:29,544 --> 00:02:32,784 Speaker 2: Name good, Can I confess something? Yeah, I read it 59 00:02:32,824 --> 00:02:33,424 Speaker 2: four times? 60 00:02:33,704 --> 00:02:35,544 Speaker 1: Did you really all? I believe it. 61 00:02:35,624 --> 00:02:36,624 Speaker 2: You can read it in a day. 62 00:02:36,824 --> 00:02:39,064 Speaker 1: You can read it in a day. But also the chemistry, 63 00:02:39,624 --> 00:02:41,544 Speaker 1: especially towards the end of the book, like I wish 64 00:02:41,624 --> 00:02:43,784 Speaker 1: I could feel that for the first time again. 65 00:02:44,904 --> 00:02:48,144 Speaker 2: To the romance in this book. It's by Curtis Sittenfield, 66 00:02:48,224 --> 00:02:52,944 Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant, brilliant writer. So it's called romantic comedy. The 67 00:02:52,984 --> 00:02:56,704 Speaker 2: book is a romantic comedy. It's very funny. I don't 68 00:02:56,704 --> 00:02:58,864 Speaker 2: want to call it a pandemic book because I know 69 00:02:58,904 --> 00:03:01,064 Speaker 2: that turns people off. But there is a big section 70 00:03:01,184 --> 00:03:03,984 Speaker 2: that happens during the pandemic, and it's the first. 71 00:03:03,664 --> 00:03:05,784 Speaker 1: Book I've read that in where I really felt it 72 00:03:05,784 --> 00:03:07,864 Speaker 1: added so much the story and it didn't make me 73 00:03:07,904 --> 00:03:11,504 Speaker 1: feel like stressed about lockdowns. Obviously was a stressful time, 74 00:03:11,584 --> 00:03:13,464 Speaker 1: but it's written into the book so well, and it's 75 00:03:13,464 --> 00:03:15,424 Speaker 1: such an important part of the story, and it really 76 00:03:15,464 --> 00:03:18,664 Speaker 1: builds the central romance that it's not going to make 77 00:03:18,704 --> 00:03:19,064 Speaker 1: you sad. 78 00:03:19,184 --> 00:03:21,504 Speaker 2: It's not going to make you sad. It's done really well. 79 00:03:21,624 --> 00:03:24,584 Speaker 2: I was like looking up how I can explain the book, 80 00:03:24,584 --> 00:03:26,544 Speaker 2: because you know, I'm very good at explaining flo. 81 00:03:26,944 --> 00:03:29,384 Speaker 1: I love when you explain something you've just watched or read. 82 00:03:29,424 --> 00:03:31,024 Speaker 1: Because I was like, did you watch or read it? 83 00:03:31,264 --> 00:03:31,744 Speaker 1: I did? 84 00:03:31,864 --> 00:03:33,944 Speaker 2: I promise you I read it four times. Will I 85 00:03:33,984 --> 00:03:35,544 Speaker 2: be able to explain it? Who knows. But I saw 86 00:03:35,584 --> 00:03:37,664 Speaker 2: a blog that said that it gave them the vibe 87 00:03:37,704 --> 00:03:39,784 Speaker 2: of what it would have been like if Mindy Kaling 88 00:03:39,824 --> 00:03:42,704 Speaker 2: when she was writing for the Office. I'm like, that's 89 00:03:42,744 --> 00:03:45,504 Speaker 2: so true. That is such a Mindy Kaling thing. Anyway, 90 00:03:45,504 --> 00:03:48,024 Speaker 2: that was a sidetrack. But the book is about a 91 00:03:48,184 --> 00:03:51,904 Speaker 2: writer called Sally Milt. She works on a Saturday night 92 00:03:51,984 --> 00:03:53,464 Speaker 2: Live Ish show. 93 00:03:53,584 --> 00:03:56,984 Speaker 1: It's called The Night a pretty much Saturday Saturday Night Live. 94 00:03:57,104 --> 00:04:00,024 Speaker 2: Like to the Tea, it's exactly like it. The layout 95 00:04:00,024 --> 00:04:02,864 Speaker 2: of the book is my absolutely favorite part because instead 96 00:04:02,904 --> 00:04:06,544 Speaker 2: of big chapters, there's three distinct parts. Yeah, like her 97 00:04:06,624 --> 00:04:09,384 Speaker 2: and her work where she meets the famous pop star 98 00:04:09,584 --> 00:04:13,024 Speaker 2: Noah Bruce, and then the pandemic where they're back and 99 00:04:13,064 --> 00:04:15,744 Speaker 2: forth with the emails, and then at the end where 100 00:04:15,744 --> 00:04:19,864 Speaker 2: they reunite again. And I love how the chapters are 101 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:23,344 Speaker 2: like according to her work timetable because Saturday Night Live, 102 00:04:23,344 --> 00:04:25,464 Speaker 2: which we have talked about in the past, like if 103 00:04:25,504 --> 00:04:28,424 Speaker 2: you're a writer for the show, you don't sleep. Essentially, 104 00:04:28,464 --> 00:04:30,744 Speaker 2: sleep is not on the table. You're in the offices 105 00:04:30,864 --> 00:04:34,344 Speaker 2: from like two am. Sometimes you come there at five am. 106 00:04:34,464 --> 00:04:37,584 Speaker 2: You're there like writing, writing, writing. The days are crazy, 107 00:04:37,824 --> 00:04:40,344 Speaker 2: So I love how it's broken down into like two 108 00:04:40,384 --> 00:04:42,464 Speaker 2: am and then they're all just in the office. I'm 109 00:04:42,504 --> 00:04:45,864 Speaker 2: still writing. It's so well done, it's so funny, and 110 00:04:45,904 --> 00:04:48,824 Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you see a female 111 00:04:48,864 --> 00:04:54,024 Speaker 2: protagonist talk so openly about how it's not always like 112 00:04:54,304 --> 00:04:56,904 Speaker 2: the main character is like a pretty beautiful woman. And 113 00:04:56,944 --> 00:04:59,064 Speaker 2: we've talked about this as well. When an author wants 114 00:04:59,064 --> 00:05:01,544 Speaker 2: you to know that their main character is pretty. It's 115 00:05:01,544 --> 00:05:04,384 Speaker 2: always like some weird flashback with them going, Sarah always 116 00:05:04,464 --> 00:05:06,344 Speaker 2: knew she was a pretty girl, but it was only 117 00:05:06,384 --> 00:05:08,504 Speaker 2: when she's standing in this ball gown that you really 118 00:05:08,504 --> 00:05:10,744 Speaker 2: feel like she was a woman. So so it's one 119 00:05:10,784 --> 00:05:13,304 Speaker 2: of those things where we've all seen it where it's 120 00:05:13,304 --> 00:05:16,984 Speaker 2: like some really funny comedian guy always ends up with 121 00:05:17,104 --> 00:05:22,944 Speaker 2: like a beautiful like Oscar winning star. Yeah, Colin Joe Scarlet, Johansson. 122 00:05:23,024 --> 00:05:24,104 Speaker 1: Oh geez, that's a low blow. 123 00:05:24,224 --> 00:05:26,384 Speaker 2: And this does the opposite, right, Like she is the 124 00:05:26,504 --> 00:05:29,264 Speaker 2: funny comedian and she kind of describes herself as like 125 00:05:29,344 --> 00:05:32,064 Speaker 2: quote unquote average looking, and the pop star she falls 126 00:05:32,104 --> 00:05:34,864 Speaker 2: in love with is like this big Hollywood star. It's 127 00:05:34,904 --> 00:05:37,264 Speaker 2: so funny, So well done. Put on your list. If 128 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:39,904 Speaker 2: you feel like there's nothing that's up your alley to read, 129 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:40,944 Speaker 2: read this. 130 00:05:42,984 --> 00:05:44,944 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna cheat a little here. Actually I'm gonna 131 00:05:44,984 --> 00:05:46,864 Speaker 1: cheat twice. This is the first time, because this isn't 132 00:05:46,864 --> 00:05:48,744 Speaker 1: a book, it's a book series. But once you read 133 00:05:48,744 --> 00:05:50,704 Speaker 1: the first one, you want to speed through the other two. 134 00:05:51,104 --> 00:05:52,504 Speaker 2: They're all crime series as well. 135 00:05:52,584 --> 00:05:55,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've got two. That's fine. Well, Again, nothing 136 00:05:55,264 --> 00:05:56,544 Speaker 1: gets you out of a reading, right, like when you 137 00:05:56,584 --> 00:05:58,264 Speaker 1: finish a great book and there's six more of them 138 00:05:58,304 --> 00:06:02,064 Speaker 1: to read. So I'm recommending the Crazy Rich Asian series, 139 00:06:02,264 --> 00:06:05,304 Speaker 1: like Kevin Kwan one of my all time favorites, the 140 00:06:05,384 --> 00:06:10,144 Speaker 1: ultimate page turner, the ultimate like just indulgent read that 141 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:12,824 Speaker 1: I've literally gone on holidays with these books and completely 142 00:06:12,904 --> 00:06:14,824 Speaker 1: ignored my family and other people because I'm like, no, no, 143 00:06:14,904 --> 00:06:17,024 Speaker 1: I have to finish this book now. I'm sure a 144 00:06:17,024 --> 00:06:18,944 Speaker 1: lot of you are saying, Crazy Rich Asians is my 145 00:06:18,944 --> 00:06:21,424 Speaker 1: favorite movie. Why would I read the book? I know 146 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:23,984 Speaker 1: what happens, And to that, I would say, Crazy Rich 147 00:06:24,024 --> 00:06:24,904 Speaker 1: Asians is also. 148 00:06:24,704 --> 00:06:26,624 Speaker 2: One of my woul ignorance. 149 00:06:26,744 --> 00:06:32,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because the book is very different. They're a 150 00:06:32,984 --> 00:06:34,824 Speaker 1: lot meaner in the book, is all I'll say. There 151 00:06:34,864 --> 00:06:36,464 Speaker 1: is a lot more tense and there's a lot more 152 00:06:36,624 --> 00:06:38,864 Speaker 1: money in the book. Oh yeah, and just the way, 153 00:06:38,944 --> 00:06:41,504 Speaker 1: like Kevin Kwan's way of just describing what everyone's wearing, 154 00:06:41,544 --> 00:06:44,304 Speaker 1: what they're whispering, what they're saying, what they're eating, and. 155 00:06:44,264 --> 00:06:47,544 Speaker 2: The dreach character has a storyline, whereas like in the movie, 156 00:06:47,584 --> 00:06:50,424 Speaker 2: you just see like the main character's storyline and then 157 00:06:50,464 --> 00:06:51,904 Speaker 2: everyone's kind of a side person. 158 00:06:52,064 --> 00:06:52,384 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:06:52,504 --> 00:06:53,504 Speaker 2: Ah, but the. 160 00:06:53,464 --> 00:06:56,344 Speaker 1: Book is just the book is everyone much more rich characters. 161 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:58,184 Speaker 1: So if you're not across crazy Rich changes at all. 162 00:06:58,224 --> 00:06:59,504 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain this to you. 163 00:06:59,744 --> 00:07:02,304 Speaker 1: But Rachel and Nick mean in New York. They fall 164 00:07:02,344 --> 00:07:05,104 Speaker 1: in love. She thinks he's just like a nice young 165 00:07:05,104 --> 00:07:07,424 Speaker 1: guy from Singapore. They go over to visit his family, 166 00:07:07,464 --> 00:07:10,744 Speaker 1: where she discovers that he's in that bow baby, the 167 00:07:10,824 --> 00:07:14,504 Speaker 1: ultimate Nepo baby, that he's not just rich, he's crazy rich, 168 00:07:14,544 --> 00:07:17,144 Speaker 1: and obviously his family are very against her marrying into 169 00:07:17,224 --> 00:07:20,144 Speaker 1: their family. So that's the first book in the series, 170 00:07:20,224 --> 00:07:21,184 Speaker 1: Crazy Rich Asians. 171 00:07:21,184 --> 00:07:23,304 Speaker 2: That's also Asian, that's where the Asian comes from. 172 00:07:23,424 --> 00:07:26,784 Speaker 1: Yes, then we have China Rich Girlfriend, which is the 173 00:07:26,824 --> 00:07:29,424 Speaker 1: second book, and then Rich People Problems a third book. 174 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:33,104 Speaker 1: And I'd say China Rich Girlfriend is where things get crazy. 175 00:07:33,144 --> 00:07:37,944 Speaker 1: 'll just say there's a poisoning plot with Rachel. Rachel 176 00:07:37,944 --> 00:07:41,464 Speaker 1: also finds out who her father is. Massive plot twist 177 00:07:41,704 --> 00:07:44,864 Speaker 1: there something Nick's family was not expecting. And I don't know, 178 00:07:44,904 --> 00:07:47,264 Speaker 1: it's just a page turner. It keeps you going. You've 179 00:07:47,304 --> 00:07:50,304 Speaker 1: got the opulence and like the history where they are 180 00:07:50,344 --> 00:07:52,904 Speaker 1: like Kevin Kwan does such an amazing job of describing 181 00:07:52,944 --> 00:07:55,744 Speaker 1: all the places in Singapore they're going to, but also, 182 00:07:55,904 --> 00:07:58,584 Speaker 1: as you're saying, gives you more in depth backstory and 183 00:07:58,624 --> 00:08:01,304 Speaker 1: all of Nick's family members and let's just say, we 184 00:08:01,464 --> 00:08:03,944 Speaker 1: see his mum in the movie played by Michelle Yo. 185 00:08:04,264 --> 00:08:06,784 Speaker 1: Kind of come around to it in the books, especially 186 00:08:06,984 --> 00:08:09,104 Speaker 1: in the movie the grandma is nice. Holy hell, that 187 00:08:09,544 --> 00:08:11,864 Speaker 1: is a demon in the book no no, no, and 188 00:08:11,904 --> 00:08:14,424 Speaker 1: then going on to rich people problems when the grandmother's 189 00:08:14,464 --> 00:08:16,504 Speaker 1: on her deathbed and the whole family comes together in 190 00:08:16,504 --> 00:08:20,784 Speaker 1: the mansion and just yeah, crazy stuff happens, so crazy 191 00:08:20,824 --> 00:08:24,064 Speaker 1: rich Asians. I've read each book multiple times, like I 192 00:08:24,064 --> 00:08:25,464 Speaker 1: can just pick one of those books up and just 193 00:08:25,504 --> 00:08:26,264 Speaker 1: read it in one go. 194 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:27,584 Speaker 2: Can I add something to that? 195 00:08:27,624 --> 00:08:27,904 Speaker 1: Please? 196 00:08:27,944 --> 00:08:32,584 Speaker 2: Do his latest book, Lies and Weddings? Yeah, so good, 197 00:08:33,664 --> 00:08:35,904 Speaker 2: My god. I think about that book all the time. 198 00:08:35,944 --> 00:08:37,864 Speaker 2: But also with crazy rich Asians. Because I went to 199 00:08:37,904 --> 00:08:41,664 Speaker 2: Singapore recently, my tour guide hated me. I was just 200 00:08:41,904 --> 00:08:44,944 Speaker 2: asking them so many questions. We went to La Pisade, 201 00:08:44,944 --> 00:08:46,784 Speaker 2: which is like where you get all the big sate 202 00:08:46,824 --> 00:08:49,784 Speaker 2: and that ban and I was just like asking him questions. 203 00:08:49,784 --> 00:08:51,264 Speaker 2: I was like, and this this a sate that they 204 00:08:51,424 --> 00:08:53,024 Speaker 2: ate in crazy rich Asians, and he was like, can 205 00:08:53,064 --> 00:08:55,104 Speaker 2: you just eat your food like you're like, no, it's 206 00:08:55,104 --> 00:08:56,704 Speaker 2: my favorite ball. I was like, no, no, I know 207 00:08:56,784 --> 00:08:59,064 Speaker 2: this place. I know this place of my soul. He's 208 00:08:59,064 --> 00:09:00,824 Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, yeah, like you and every other tourist 209 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:01,224 Speaker 2: that comes here. 210 00:09:01,424 --> 00:09:05,024 Speaker 1: Yeah. Exactly. So highly recommend. If look, if these books 211 00:09:05,064 --> 00:09:07,464 Speaker 1: don't get you out of a reading rut, then nothing will. 212 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:08,064 Speaker 1: I'll say that. 213 00:09:08,504 --> 00:09:11,624 Speaker 2: Okay. My next one was one that helped me out 214 00:09:11,624 --> 00:09:14,424 Speaker 2: recently because I was in a bit of a reading rut. 215 00:09:14,464 --> 00:09:18,664 Speaker 2: This is a series. I read the first book and 216 00:09:18,744 --> 00:09:24,184 Speaker 2: I became completely obsessed that I started reading the second book. 217 00:09:24,224 --> 00:09:25,784 Speaker 2: And I remember I started reading the second book on 218 00:09:25,824 --> 00:09:27,344 Speaker 2: a Friday, and I was talking to all the girls 219 00:09:27,384 --> 00:09:30,144 Speaker 2: in the office who loved the series, and I was like, oh, yeah, 220 00:09:30,144 --> 00:09:32,384 Speaker 2: I'm up to like the first chapter in the second book, 221 00:09:32,464 --> 00:09:34,464 Speaker 2: all this is happening, and they're like, oh, cool, cool, cool. 222 00:09:34,984 --> 00:09:37,064 Speaker 2: And then I came back to work on the Monday, 223 00:09:37,064 --> 00:09:39,304 Speaker 2: so we had Saturday Sunday. Came back to work on 224 00:09:39,304 --> 00:09:41,744 Speaker 2: the Monday, and they were like, how's the book going, 225 00:09:41,784 --> 00:09:43,664 Speaker 2: And I was like, I finished it. And then I 226 00:09:43,704 --> 00:09:45,104 Speaker 2: finished the third and then I finished. 227 00:09:44,864 --> 00:09:48,784 Speaker 1: The Fall and they were like, holy hell, and you 228 00:09:48,784 --> 00:09:50,744 Speaker 1: were like rocking back and forth with my eyes. 229 00:09:50,824 --> 00:09:53,064 Speaker 2: I came because we had to record an episode, so 230 00:09:53,144 --> 00:09:56,504 Speaker 2: I had bloodshot eyes. This I like, my right eye 231 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:59,784 Speaker 2: was twitching. It's so crazy. It's still a bit that's 232 00:09:59,904 --> 00:10:03,344 Speaker 2: I think that's just stress in general. I was like 233 00:10:03,584 --> 00:10:06,384 Speaker 2: so sleepy. But even then at work, all I could 234 00:10:06,384 --> 00:10:08,904 Speaker 2: think about was this stupid, bloody fifth book I had 235 00:10:08,944 --> 00:10:10,624 Speaker 2: to read. And I had to wait the whole week 236 00:10:10,664 --> 00:10:12,144 Speaker 2: because I knew if I picked it up during the week, 237 00:10:12,184 --> 00:10:13,904 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to think about anything else. This 238 00:10:14,024 --> 00:10:17,544 Speaker 2: whole anticipation for this one book. I am talking about 239 00:10:18,064 --> 00:10:21,384 Speaker 2: the Akatar series by Sarah j. Now, how's that? 240 00:10:21,824 --> 00:10:25,664 Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's literally all anyone in the ope's about 241 00:10:25,744 --> 00:10:26,824 Speaker 1: forced you to read it. 242 00:10:27,024 --> 00:10:29,584 Speaker 2: LB's like reading them now because I told her that 243 00:10:29,624 --> 00:10:30,224 Speaker 2: we need. 244 00:10:30,064 --> 00:10:31,944 Speaker 1: To do a full episode of all and we will, 245 00:10:31,984 --> 00:10:33,144 Speaker 1: don't we will. 246 00:10:33,264 --> 00:10:36,304 Speaker 2: But the first book is really not everyone's favorite book 247 00:10:36,304 --> 00:10:37,504 Speaker 2: in the whole series, but it's the one that you 248 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,664 Speaker 2: obviously have to read first or it gets everyone into 249 00:10:39,704 --> 00:10:44,104 Speaker 2: the series. It's a Romanicee, So I'm elevated now. I 250 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:46,184 Speaker 2: stop calling it very smart because I know that's a 251 00:10:46,224 --> 00:10:48,864 Speaker 2: bit offensive to people who love this genre. I've been 252 00:10:48,904 --> 00:10:51,104 Speaker 2: calling it a romanty, which is what I've been told 253 00:10:51,104 --> 00:10:53,824 Speaker 2: to call it. And by romanticy, I mean it's just 254 00:10:53,904 --> 00:10:59,144 Speaker 2: fairies having crazy sex. It's really good And it's not 255 00:10:59,224 --> 00:11:01,904 Speaker 2: just about the sex, Okay, because like I came in thinking, 256 00:11:01,944 --> 00:11:03,784 Speaker 2: like I'm going to get straight up porn. It's not 257 00:11:03,904 --> 00:11:08,464 Speaker 2: that there's an actual storyline. Are the characters a bit weird? Yes? 258 00:11:08,824 --> 00:11:11,264 Speaker 2: Are some of the female characters it odd that I 259 00:11:11,264 --> 00:11:12,024 Speaker 2: don't really like? 260 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:12,704 Speaker 1: Yes? 261 00:11:13,064 --> 00:11:14,864 Speaker 2: But is that because they are odd? Or is that 262 00:11:14,904 --> 00:11:17,624 Speaker 2: just because I have some internalized misogyny going on? I 263 00:11:17,664 --> 00:11:20,664 Speaker 2: think it's that reason. Because the men in these books, 264 00:11:20,664 --> 00:11:23,544 Speaker 2: like the male fairies, no man ever compares, Like I 265 00:11:23,544 --> 00:11:25,264 Speaker 2: don't think I can date anymore. 266 00:11:24,904 --> 00:11:26,744 Speaker 1: Like you got to watch out for those male fairies 267 00:11:27,584 --> 00:11:28,704 Speaker 1: to date anymore. 268 00:11:29,024 --> 00:11:30,424 Speaker 2: If I go on a date with a man, I'm 269 00:11:30,464 --> 00:11:32,824 Speaker 2: gonna be like, but where are your wings? 270 00:11:34,184 --> 00:11:35,704 Speaker 1: Can I please be in the room next time you 271 00:11:35,704 --> 00:11:38,704 Speaker 1: ask a man that are your wings? 272 00:11:39,144 --> 00:11:41,264 Speaker 2: And like why aren't you flying me up to like 273 00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:44,304 Speaker 2: your big castle? That like lavitates be on the ground? 274 00:11:44,424 --> 00:11:45,344 Speaker 2: Like where like. 275 00:11:46,144 --> 00:11:48,344 Speaker 1: Questions to ask a partner? You want me to split 276 00:11:48,384 --> 00:11:50,824 Speaker 1: the bill and you haven't even flown me up to 277 00:11:50,864 --> 00:11:51,144 Speaker 1: a car. 278 00:11:51,344 --> 00:11:53,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know you're meant to have like a 279 00:11:53,824 --> 00:11:56,824 Speaker 2: trove of like treasures in your house, like what's going on? 280 00:11:57,024 --> 00:11:58,224 Speaker 1: And modern dating is a letdown. 281 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:00,704 Speaker 2: It's a letdown. But also the only issue I take 282 00:12:00,744 --> 00:12:02,544 Speaker 2: with these books if you try to be one of 283 00:12:02,544 --> 00:12:04,664 Speaker 2: those people who trying to insert yourself in the book, 284 00:12:04,664 --> 00:12:06,584 Speaker 2: which I pretend to do, like I'm always a man. 285 00:12:06,704 --> 00:12:09,944 Speaker 1: Everyone, No, whole books have been written around characters that 286 00:12:10,024 --> 00:12:13,064 Speaker 1: are for you to insert yourself into them, the most 287 00:12:13,064 --> 00:12:15,624 Speaker 1: famous being bella Swan, Like that's a characters. 288 00:12:16,064 --> 00:12:17,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why it piss me off. And 289 00:12:17,944 --> 00:12:20,104 Speaker 2: people are like, where is Emily so obsessed with Mindy Kaling? 290 00:12:20,264 --> 00:12:23,304 Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than you pretending you're the main character 291 00:12:23,344 --> 00:12:26,064 Speaker 2: of a book. And then she says something dumb like 292 00:12:26,344 --> 00:12:28,864 Speaker 2: and then I pushed my blonde hair over my shoulder, 293 00:12:28,944 --> 00:12:31,424 Speaker 2: like you're not meant to be blonde, I'm meant to 294 00:12:31,464 --> 00:12:34,104 Speaker 2: be Youdy calling is gonna love how many shout outs 295 00:12:34,104 --> 00:12:35,984 Speaker 2: she's getting in this episode, says, so this is a 296 00:12:35,984 --> 00:12:39,944 Speaker 2: call out for all authors, no description on your characters. 297 00:12:39,984 --> 00:12:42,184 Speaker 2: I'll do that in my head. Thank you very much. 298 00:12:42,504 --> 00:12:45,944 Speaker 1: So how many books and theories back to me? 299 00:12:46,824 --> 00:12:48,944 Speaker 2: Back to Akata? 300 00:12:49,064 --> 00:12:50,184 Speaker 1: This is a personal shout. 301 00:12:51,344 --> 00:12:54,224 Speaker 2: Five books in this series so far, Rumors that there's 302 00:12:54,264 --> 00:12:57,704 Speaker 2: going to be a six book dropping this year. Sarah 303 00:12:57,744 --> 00:13:00,664 Speaker 2: jay Mash she started writing Romanticy when she was like 304 00:13:00,704 --> 00:13:04,624 Speaker 2: sixteen years old, so that's a prime age just writing, 305 00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:07,464 Speaker 2: like I should have just stuck with my fan fiction 306 00:13:07,624 --> 00:13:10,184 Speaker 2: tumblr if this is what it could have been me 307 00:13:10,544 --> 00:13:14,064 Speaker 2: brilliant writer. It's such good storytelling and world building, like 308 00:13:14,104 --> 00:13:17,544 Speaker 2: you actually escape into these books. It's so well done 309 00:13:17,584 --> 00:13:20,304 Speaker 2: in such easy reads, like you'll just fly through them 310 00:13:20,344 --> 00:13:22,064 Speaker 2: like I did. I would just drink a lot of 311 00:13:22,264 --> 00:13:24,264 Speaker 2: you flew through them? Did you really flew through them 312 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:30,504 Speaker 2: with my own wings? Like a girl boss? Put that 313 00:13:30,544 --> 00:13:35,304 Speaker 2: on a T shirt. Okay, I'm la just raise you 314 00:13:36,344 --> 00:13:37,944 Speaker 2: talking about you? Do you want to lie down for this? 315 00:13:38,104 --> 00:13:41,064 Speaker 1: It's been stressed out so when the Akatar series began 316 00:13:41,144 --> 00:13:43,344 Speaker 1: popping off, so many people in the office to be like, Laura, 317 00:13:43,424 --> 00:13:45,584 Speaker 1: are you getting into Romanticy? Are you going to read them? 318 00:13:45,704 --> 00:13:47,624 Speaker 1: And to that, I slept them across the face and 319 00:13:47,664 --> 00:13:50,744 Speaker 1: I said, how dare you? I was raised by Romanticy. 320 00:13:51,064 --> 00:13:58,104 Speaker 1: It's all quoting Mindy Kayling, We've done enough because romanticy 321 00:13:58,224 --> 00:14:00,904 Speaker 1: is pretty much all I read through my teens, through 322 00:14:00,904 --> 00:14:03,464 Speaker 1: my twenties, and to be honest, into my early thirties. 323 00:14:03,504 --> 00:14:05,784 Speaker 2: So if if you were reading romantic from like the 324 00:14:05,824 --> 00:14:09,664 Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds, ye, reading like the Bible. 325 00:14:10,664 --> 00:14:13,744 Speaker 1: What. No, there's so many romanticy This isn't the first 326 00:14:13,784 --> 00:14:16,664 Speaker 1: romanticy series. It's one of the biggest genres in the 327 00:14:16,704 --> 00:14:19,064 Speaker 1: world because romance books are one of the highest selling 328 00:14:19,104 --> 00:14:20,464 Speaker 1: things in the world that just don't get a lot 329 00:14:20,464 --> 00:14:22,784 Speaker 1: of attention until now when they're starting to kind of 330 00:14:22,784 --> 00:14:25,864 Speaker 1: heat up because it's mostly women buying them. But romanticy 331 00:14:25,984 --> 00:14:29,944 Speaker 1: has been having a huge moment in the spotlight for decades, 332 00:14:30,024 --> 00:14:32,104 Speaker 1: particularly i'd say in the early two thousands that was 333 00:14:32,104 --> 00:14:34,784 Speaker 1: one of the big booms. So one of my favorite 334 00:14:34,864 --> 00:14:37,704 Speaker 1: romanticy series that I feel like, if you're loving Akatar 335 00:14:37,784 --> 00:14:39,624 Speaker 1: and you just want something on the same veins. I mean, 336 00:14:39,664 --> 00:14:42,064 Speaker 1: there's so many book series like that out there, but 337 00:14:42,224 --> 00:14:44,904 Speaker 1: one of my absolute favorite is the Fever series by 338 00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:45,904 Speaker 1: Karen Marie Mornning. 339 00:14:46,144 --> 00:14:47,544 Speaker 2: The Fever Series. 340 00:14:47,944 --> 00:14:50,184 Speaker 1: Yes, so the first book came out in two thousands. 341 00:14:50,224 --> 00:14:52,864 Speaker 1: Are you writing that down? Yes, Okay, I'll send you 342 00:14:52,944 --> 00:14:55,064 Speaker 1: these notes to write it down. 343 00:14:55,304 --> 00:14:57,144 Speaker 2: I'm stressed, very cute. 344 00:14:57,424 --> 00:14:59,904 Speaker 1: So there's eleven books in the series, and. 345 00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:01,024 Speaker 2: You might that's a commitment. 346 00:15:01,344 --> 00:15:02,784 Speaker 1: You might feel like that's a lot, but once you 347 00:15:02,784 --> 00:15:04,424 Speaker 1: get into the first one, you'd be like, holy hell, 348 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:06,584 Speaker 1: hook this to my veins. I'm going to read these 349 00:15:06,624 --> 00:15:09,144 Speaker 1: all through the night. So Dark Fever is the first novel. 350 00:15:09,224 --> 00:15:11,984 Speaker 1: These aren't like Underground when New York Times best selling 351 00:15:12,024 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 1: books and continue to sell millions of copies. So the 352 00:15:15,464 --> 00:15:18,384 Speaker 1: story starts off with a young girl who's working. She's 353 00:15:18,424 --> 00:15:20,984 Speaker 1: like graduated, she's still living with her parents. She's a 354 00:15:20,984 --> 00:15:23,304 Speaker 1: bit of a party girl. She works as a bartender 355 00:15:23,344 --> 00:15:26,504 Speaker 1: in Georgia. Her name's Mikayla Lane. Everyone calls her Mac, 356 00:15:26,904 --> 00:15:30,344 Speaker 1: and her sister is over studying in Dublin in Ireland, 357 00:15:30,424 --> 00:15:32,664 Speaker 1: and her sister's the much more kind of studious one. 358 00:15:33,144 --> 00:15:35,464 Speaker 1: And then and her family find out that her sister 359 00:15:35,544 --> 00:15:38,104 Speaker 1: has been killed and the police are just you know, 360 00:15:38,144 --> 00:15:40,024 Speaker 1: not looking into it. They've kind of written it off. 361 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:42,224 Speaker 1: So Mac, who was very close to her sister and 362 00:15:42,304 --> 00:15:44,824 Speaker 1: just thinks everything about her death sounds so suspicious. But 363 00:15:44,824 --> 00:15:46,984 Speaker 1: she doesn't know anyone in Ireland to ask about it. 364 00:15:47,144 --> 00:15:49,384 Speaker 1: So she jumps on a plane to fly to Dublin 365 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:51,704 Speaker 1: and try and figure out what happened to her sister, 366 00:15:52,264 --> 00:15:56,304 Speaker 1: only to discover that Dublin is crawling with the fay people, 367 00:15:56,384 --> 00:16:00,384 Speaker 1: which are very very sexy but dangerous. Kill you through sex. 368 00:16:00,584 --> 00:16:02,264 Speaker 1: Fairies kills you through sex. 369 00:16:02,504 --> 00:16:04,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them do. 370 00:16:04,544 --> 00:16:05,344 Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of them do. 371 00:16:05,424 --> 00:16:07,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had this whole choice or does it just happen? 372 00:16:07,784 --> 00:16:10,904 Speaker 1: No, they can just do it to you. Yeah, there's layers. 373 00:16:11,744 --> 00:16:14,144 Speaker 1: So Mac also finds out that she and posess to 374 00:16:14,184 --> 00:16:16,224 Speaker 1: both have this ability where they can see through like 375 00:16:16,264 --> 00:16:18,544 Speaker 1: the glamours that the fairies in London put up, so 376 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:21,144 Speaker 1: she can see the fairies and the monsters and the 377 00:16:21,144 --> 00:16:22,024 Speaker 1: demons and all. 378 00:16:21,904 --> 00:16:23,744 Speaker 2: This time so they look like regular people. 379 00:16:23,824 --> 00:16:25,904 Speaker 1: They can look like regular people, and then she can 380 00:16:25,984 --> 00:16:28,304 Speaker 1: see through them to their fairy cells. And there's this 381 00:16:28,344 --> 00:16:32,344 Speaker 1: whole underground world happening in Dublin of these fairy people. 382 00:16:32,664 --> 00:16:35,384 Speaker 1: And Mac soon learns that her sister had discovered it 383 00:16:35,384 --> 00:16:37,664 Speaker 1: because she has the same ability and what has led 384 00:16:37,704 --> 00:16:40,704 Speaker 1: to her death. There's this big evil mastermind that's running Dublin. 385 00:16:41,144 --> 00:16:43,504 Speaker 1: Then she gets a job at this bookshop because it's 386 00:16:43,584 --> 00:16:46,544 Speaker 1: run by this man called Jericho. She can't figure out 387 00:16:46,584 --> 00:16:48,464 Speaker 1: what he is. What he is comes out over the 388 00:16:48,544 --> 00:16:51,544 Speaker 1: next couple of books. He's just a very hot, mysterious 389 00:16:51,584 --> 00:16:55,224 Speaker 1: man who also helps her start to uncover this fairy 390 00:16:55,304 --> 00:16:57,704 Speaker 1: world and like all the demons and everything within it. 391 00:16:57,704 --> 00:17:00,704 Speaker 1: It's just so well written, like the world building and 392 00:17:00,744 --> 00:17:03,824 Speaker 1: the history and of this like young girl, she is blonde, 393 00:17:03,824 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry she does change her hair at one stage. 394 00:17:09,464 --> 00:17:11,664 Speaker 1: That makes you feelingy that and each book kind of 395 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:13,624 Speaker 1: takes you further into the mystery of like what happened 396 00:17:13,624 --> 00:17:15,984 Speaker 1: to her sister, the different things she uncovers. She starts 397 00:17:15,984 --> 00:17:18,304 Speaker 1: to sort of make friends and enemies with different people 398 00:17:18,384 --> 00:17:20,984 Speaker 1: within like the fairies and demons and everything. That's so good, 399 00:17:21,224 --> 00:17:24,024 Speaker 1: and it is wildly sexy, not just between Mac and Jericho, 400 00:17:24,224 --> 00:17:27,264 Speaker 1: but between like all the other fairy situations. But yeah, 401 00:17:27,264 --> 00:17:29,384 Speaker 1: it does get pretty rapey towards the end, which is 402 00:17:29,784 --> 00:17:32,384 Speaker 1: with death by sex fairies, which is something a lot 403 00:17:32,424 --> 00:17:36,184 Speaker 1: of humans want. But yeah, it's so good. There's eleven books. 404 00:17:36,184 --> 00:17:39,704 Speaker 1: There were all best sellers, so the Fever series, Like Beva, 405 00:17:39,904 --> 00:17:42,104 Speaker 1: you start this on a Friday night, You're gonna call 406 00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:43,904 Speaker 1: me on Saturday morning and be like, I finished it. 407 00:17:44,144 --> 00:17:46,544 Speaker 1: I finished it. I'm in love with jerich Co. I'm 408 00:17:46,544 --> 00:17:48,784 Speaker 1: in love with Christian mckelter. I also want to be mac. 409 00:17:48,824 --> 00:17:50,384 Speaker 1: Oh my god. When I went to Dublin, I'd just 410 00:17:50,504 --> 00:17:52,144 Speaker 1: walk the first time. I'd walk around at night, just 411 00:17:52,184 --> 00:17:53,344 Speaker 1: picturing me being in that world. 412 00:17:53,344 --> 00:17:56,064 Speaker 2: So we Me and Singapore. Let's you in Dublin. 413 00:17:56,144 --> 00:17:57,744 Speaker 1: Looking for the Death Bisex Fairies. 414 00:17:59,984 --> 00:18:02,384 Speaker 2: Okay, this one I chose because it's got me out 415 00:18:02,384 --> 00:18:04,504 Speaker 2: of a reading slump when I was quite young, during 416 00:18:04,504 --> 00:18:06,944 Speaker 2: that period of when you have to read all these 417 00:18:06,984 --> 00:18:09,944 Speaker 2: big novels for school, and then you graduate school and 418 00:18:09,984 --> 00:18:12,264 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm I'm never reading again. I hate books. 419 00:18:12,384 --> 00:18:13,624 Speaker 1: Okay, I never said. 420 00:18:13,464 --> 00:18:15,464 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was me. I hated reading our 421 00:18:15,544 --> 00:18:17,424 Speaker 2: school like I loved it, but I hated it. I 422 00:18:17,464 --> 00:18:20,744 Speaker 2: hate being told what to read. But then I found 423 00:18:21,024 --> 00:18:24,384 Speaker 2: this author. You might know her. Her name is Jillian Flynn. 424 00:18:24,464 --> 00:18:25,424 Speaker 2: She's quite famous. 425 00:18:25,784 --> 00:18:27,624 Speaker 1: I think I've heard that name once or twice. 426 00:18:27,664 --> 00:18:31,424 Speaker 2: And her book Sharp Objects got me right back into 427 00:18:31,504 --> 00:18:35,144 Speaker 2: reading and the love for reading. So Jillian Finn, she's 428 00:18:35,184 --> 00:18:39,744 Speaker 2: like a psychological thriller author. Thriller books are my favorite 429 00:18:39,784 --> 00:18:42,064 Speaker 2: because I find thriller movies too scary. 430 00:18:42,184 --> 00:18:43,424 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, every time we go to 431 00:18:43,464 --> 00:18:45,504 Speaker 1: a thriller movie, I look over and you're on the ground, 432 00:18:45,744 --> 00:18:46,264 Speaker 1: too scary. 433 00:18:46,304 --> 00:18:49,504 Speaker 2: Whereas I can actually like appreciate it in book form 434 00:18:49,504 --> 00:18:51,784 Speaker 2: because there's no like jump scares, you know what I mean. Yeah, 435 00:18:51,904 --> 00:18:53,344 Speaker 2: I had a jump scare. That's my thing. I hate 436 00:18:53,344 --> 00:18:55,824 Speaker 2: a jump scare. But that's why I love thriller books 437 00:18:55,824 --> 00:18:58,504 Speaker 2: because I love like mystery, and I love like those 438 00:18:58,544 --> 00:19:03,144 Speaker 2: investigative novels and the kind of like the description and 439 00:19:03,224 --> 00:19:05,744 Speaker 2: the like who did it. I've been reading The Housemaid, 440 00:19:05,784 --> 00:19:08,424 Speaker 2: which is like a new thriller series. If anyone else 441 00:19:08,464 --> 00:19:10,864 Speaker 2: is reading that, come talk to me, sign my damns. 442 00:19:10,864 --> 00:19:14,504 Speaker 2: It's really good. But Sharp Objects is about Camille Prika, 443 00:19:14,664 --> 00:19:17,624 Speaker 2: who's a Chicago journalist, and she returns to her small 444 00:19:17,664 --> 00:19:21,184 Speaker 2: hometown of wind Gat, Missouri, and she moves back in 445 00:19:21,304 --> 00:19:25,504 Speaker 2: with her mom, who's a bit weird, and her stepsister Emma, 446 00:19:25,544 --> 00:19:28,424 Speaker 2: who she has like a bit of an interesting relationship with. 447 00:19:29,104 --> 00:19:31,544 Speaker 2: You also find out like this family dynamic is quite 448 00:19:31,824 --> 00:19:35,024 Speaker 2: weird because like her mum really babies her stepsister, even 449 00:19:35,024 --> 00:19:37,944 Speaker 2: though her stepsister is like close to being a grown woman, 450 00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:41,664 Speaker 2: and you find out exactly why there's been some murders 451 00:19:41,744 --> 00:19:43,864 Speaker 2: in the small town, which is why she's there. Just 452 00:19:43,904 --> 00:19:46,064 Speaker 2: a few, and they're all really weird with like their 453 00:19:46,104 --> 00:19:50,144 Speaker 2: teeth pulled out. Yeah, very gross, but it's not gruesome gross. 454 00:19:50,184 --> 00:19:53,424 Speaker 2: It's just very like ooh gross. And she with like 455 00:19:53,504 --> 00:19:55,224 Speaker 2: the police who she kind of has like a bit 456 00:19:55,224 --> 00:19:58,184 Speaker 2: of a fling with, try to investigate these murders together. 457 00:19:58,704 --> 00:20:01,664 Speaker 2: It is done so well. And then from reading this book, 458 00:20:01,704 --> 00:20:04,944 Speaker 2: I started reading Gone Girl and then Dark Places, which 459 00:20:04,944 --> 00:20:08,984 Speaker 2: are also massive Gillian Flynn novels, also very thriller and mystery. 460 00:20:09,304 --> 00:20:11,864 Speaker 2: But if you're looking for like a quick thriller ficks, 461 00:20:12,424 --> 00:20:14,624 Speaker 2: this is really good to get you into like reading. 462 00:20:14,784 --> 00:20:16,784 Speaker 1: And good plot twist at the end, very chilling. 463 00:20:16,864 --> 00:20:19,064 Speaker 2: Ah, she's a good bar twist. Oh my god. 464 00:20:19,424 --> 00:20:22,144 Speaker 1: Well, going from a thriller to the ultimate comfort read, 465 00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:24,584 Speaker 1: I thought I just put one really good comfort read 466 00:20:24,664 --> 00:20:27,304 Speaker 1: in there. It just feels like a warm hug. This 467 00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:30,264 Speaker 1: is one of my absolute favorite books of all time. 468 00:20:30,264 --> 00:20:32,984 Speaker 1: I don't say that lightly because I've read thousands of books, 469 00:20:33,504 --> 00:20:36,584 Speaker 1: but it is The Shell Seekers by Rosamund Pilcher. I 470 00:20:36,704 --> 00:20:39,504 Speaker 1: never read it well, came out in the eighties. Obviously, 471 00:20:39,544 --> 00:20:41,264 Speaker 1: that was before I was born. Why do you like. 472 00:20:41,184 --> 00:20:43,464 Speaker 2: Reading books before you were born, because. 473 00:20:43,224 --> 00:20:45,104 Speaker 1: You don't just read books from when you were born. 474 00:20:45,784 --> 00:20:47,904 Speaker 1: My mom gave me this book when I was a teenager, 475 00:20:47,984 --> 00:20:50,984 Speaker 1: and she loved it, and I loved it. I've read 476 00:20:51,024 --> 00:20:53,304 Speaker 1: this book. I'm gonna cry. I read this book so 477 00:20:53,344 --> 00:20:55,864 Speaker 1: many times. The pages fell apart in my hands one 478 00:20:55,944 --> 00:20:58,504 Speaker 1: day and I had to go buy a new copy. 479 00:20:58,824 --> 00:21:00,664 Speaker 1: And then I still have the pages from the old 480 00:21:00,664 --> 00:21:02,624 Speaker 1: book because I don't want to throw them away. 481 00:21:03,064 --> 00:21:03,744 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 482 00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:06,944 Speaker 1: So it's a really beautiful book. It's set in two 483 00:21:06,944 --> 00:21:10,224 Speaker 1: different time periods. Some of it is set in London 484 00:21:10,344 --> 00:21:12,424 Speaker 1: and tells the story of Penelope Keeling. When you first 485 00:21:12,464 --> 00:21:14,224 Speaker 1: meet her in the book, she's a woman in her fifties. 486 00:21:14,544 --> 00:21:16,704 Speaker 1: She lives in this beautiful big house in the country, 487 00:21:16,704 --> 00:21:18,824 Speaker 1: and her father was a famous painter and she has 488 00:21:18,864 --> 00:21:21,464 Speaker 1: one of his paintings in her home. She has three 489 00:21:21,504 --> 00:21:26,664 Speaker 1: adult children, Olivia who's a magazine editor, her oldest daughter Nancy, 490 00:21:26,784 --> 00:21:29,464 Speaker 1: who's like, you know, a very you know, unsatisfying marriage, 491 00:21:29,464 --> 00:21:32,744 Speaker 1: and then Noel, who's like her wild son. And then 492 00:21:32,864 --> 00:21:35,784 Speaker 1: it also goes back in time to Penelope's life as 493 00:21:35,864 --> 00:21:38,184 Speaker 1: like a young girl with her mother and father in 494 00:21:38,224 --> 00:21:40,464 Speaker 1: World War two, and it kind of goes back and 495 00:21:40,504 --> 00:21:43,024 Speaker 1: forth in time following all the different members of this 496 00:21:43,064 --> 00:21:45,264 Speaker 1: family as they kind of fight over this money. But 497 00:21:45,744 --> 00:21:48,664 Speaker 1: it's just so incredible. Olivia's story in particular, she's like 498 00:21:48,704 --> 00:21:53,264 Speaker 1: this workaholic, fabulous magazine editor. Then she goes to Abitha 499 00:21:53,424 --> 00:21:56,224 Speaker 1: on this like one week holiday, falls madly in love 500 00:21:56,264 --> 00:21:58,664 Speaker 1: with this older man called Cosmo, and like stays there 501 00:21:58,704 --> 00:22:00,864 Speaker 1: with him, and then like his daughter comes into the 502 00:22:00,904 --> 00:22:03,584 Speaker 1: later story, and it's just one of those books where 503 00:22:03,624 --> 00:22:06,944 Speaker 1: like the descriptions of like the world they're in the countryside, 504 00:22:06,944 --> 00:22:09,184 Speaker 1: I'm very pretty, and yeah, it's all very pretty, but 505 00:22:09,304 --> 00:22:12,104 Speaker 1: just like the depth of emotion and all these different 506 00:22:12,144 --> 00:22:14,424 Speaker 1: family members, like even though like Nola and Nancy are 507 00:22:14,464 --> 00:22:16,264 Speaker 1: kind of the bad siblings, you see so much into 508 00:22:16,304 --> 00:22:18,384 Speaker 1: their world and to their family and to how they 509 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:21,224 Speaker 1: feel that they become these very rich characters. And then 510 00:22:21,224 --> 00:22:24,384 Speaker 1: when you're going back to Penelope's life as a child, 511 00:22:24,584 --> 00:22:26,944 Speaker 1: as like with her big love story and then why 512 00:22:26,984 --> 00:22:28,744 Speaker 1: she marries a man she's not in love with later 513 00:22:28,824 --> 00:22:31,144 Speaker 1: on and having her children and how it all culminates 514 00:22:31,144 --> 00:22:34,024 Speaker 1: in this beautiful story of like family and money and 515 00:22:34,064 --> 00:22:36,784 Speaker 1: true love and all that sort of stuff. Odd's so good. 516 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:38,504 Speaker 1: I don't want to go into like the specifics of 517 00:22:38,504 --> 00:22:40,144 Speaker 1: all the characters because it is one of those just 518 00:22:40,144 --> 00:22:43,424 Speaker 1: like incredible, like human stories. There are some kind of 519 00:22:43,424 --> 00:22:46,904 Speaker 1: like twists and unexpected moments with you know, people who die, 520 00:22:46,984 --> 00:22:49,304 Speaker 1: and mysteries are uncovered in lies that were told in 521 00:22:49,344 --> 00:22:51,064 Speaker 1: the family and all that sort of stuff. So like 522 00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:54,064 Speaker 1: there is that kind of like all these family secrets come. 523 00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:54,744 Speaker 2: To the surface. 524 00:22:54,784 --> 00:22:58,464 Speaker 1: But mostly it's just this like lovely interesting story about 525 00:22:58,464 --> 00:23:02,544 Speaker 1: all these different people and it's just so beautifully feeling. 526 00:23:03,384 --> 00:23:06,024 Speaker 1: It is. It'll be sad, like I always cry multiple 527 00:23:06,024 --> 00:23:09,384 Speaker 1: times in it. Now there's some sad moments, and there's 528 00:23:09,424 --> 00:23:12,744 Speaker 1: some really beauty or four moments as well. It's just 529 00:23:12,784 --> 00:23:14,384 Speaker 1: so good. I kind of just go how good it is. 530 00:23:14,424 --> 00:23:16,544 Speaker 1: Like it's just one of those books where I wish 531 00:23:16,624 --> 00:23:18,144 Speaker 1: I'll go back and read it for the first time. 532 00:23:18,144 --> 00:23:19,704 Speaker 1: But I'm also glad I didn't read it now in 533 00:23:19,744 --> 00:23:21,304 Speaker 1: my thirties. I'm glad I read as a teenage and 534 00:23:21,344 --> 00:23:22,624 Speaker 1: I've had it for my whole life. 535 00:23:22,944 --> 00:23:25,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah to me, that's so nice. Of you 536 00:23:25,544 --> 00:23:26,024 Speaker 2: to say. 537 00:23:26,264 --> 00:23:28,824 Speaker 1: And I went to Abitha on that cruise I went 538 00:23:28,864 --> 00:23:30,904 Speaker 1: on last year, and everyone's like, let's go party, and 539 00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:32,024 Speaker 1: I was like walking around. 540 00:23:32,104 --> 00:23:34,224 Speaker 2: Like, let's go to this little cottage on no I did. 541 00:23:34,344 --> 00:23:36,464 Speaker 1: I walked around to her. I thought Cosmo's house would 542 00:23:36,504 --> 00:23:37,944 Speaker 1: have been like where they pitch it and just go 543 00:23:38,024 --> 00:23:40,344 Speaker 1: to some random and I was standing there being like, 544 00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:41,944 Speaker 1: they're not real people. But I was like, this is 545 00:23:41,944 --> 00:23:45,144 Speaker 1: where she was imagining when she wrote those scenes. So yeah, 546 00:23:45,184 --> 00:23:47,864 Speaker 1: The shell Seekers by Rosamond Pelcher. There are movies and 547 00:23:47,864 --> 00:23:50,344 Speaker 1: TV shows they're not great. Don't watch it, okay, don't 548 00:23:50,344 --> 00:23:51,944 Speaker 1: be like, oh Laura said the book was good, the. 549 00:23:51,904 --> 00:23:52,704 Speaker 2: Movie must be good. 550 00:23:52,744 --> 00:23:54,304 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, just the book. 551 00:23:54,424 --> 00:23:57,184 Speaker 2: Just the book. Thank you so much for listening to 552 00:23:57,224 --> 00:23:59,704 Speaker 2: the Spill today. If you love this episode. We did 553 00:23:59,744 --> 00:24:02,664 Speaker 2: have a lot of recommendations in it. So I'm just 554 00:24:02,664 --> 00:24:04,784 Speaker 2: gonna list off all the books we talked about. So 555 00:24:04,824 --> 00:24:06,264 Speaker 2: get a pen and paper ready. 556 00:24:06,104 --> 00:24:08,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, pause it here. If you have to get yourself ready, 557 00:24:08,984 --> 00:24:10,344 Speaker 1: send this to yourself as a voice. 558 00:24:10,144 --> 00:24:14,944 Speaker 2: And I whatever elevateor music. Okay, surely you have a 559 00:24:14,944 --> 00:24:17,904 Speaker 2: pen and paper by now, these are the books in 560 00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:20,624 Speaker 2: order that you heard them in not order of our preference. 561 00:24:20,624 --> 00:24:24,504 Speaker 2: That will be a fight to that will ev romantic comedy, 562 00:24:25,144 --> 00:24:30,544 Speaker 2: Crazy Rich Asians, the Fever series, Akatar, shell Seekers, and 563 00:24:30,704 --> 00:24:35,144 Speaker 2: Sharp Objects. These are your books. They're really good. If 564 00:24:35,144 --> 00:24:37,344 Speaker 2: you want to get out of a reading rite, get 565 00:24:37,344 --> 00:24:40,544 Speaker 2: them on your list. The Spill is produced by Kimberly 566 00:24:40,664 --> 00:24:43,824 Speaker 2: Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik. We'll be back 567 00:24:43,864 --> 00:24:47,624 Speaker 2: here in your podcast feed at three pm on Monday. 568 00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:54,064 Speaker 2: Bye bye,