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Speaker 1: I'm Bruna pep Andrea. I'm a film and TV producer.
Speaker 1: I'm Mary Christis. I'm an actress writer.
Speaker 3: I'm Ginnie Mansberg.
Speaker 2: I'm a GP I'm cats Mahoney, I'm a comedian. Right
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Speaker 2: first order of business today, I've been in the Unleashed
Speaker 2: DMS and we have a question from Alicia Niki. Yes, Nick,
Speaker 2: what on earth does it mean when you say put
Speaker 2: someone's name in the fridge.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a previous episode. Yes, do you remember?
Speaker 1: I think Sally said it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's like some people burn the names, and
Speaker 4: some people put a name in the fridge to sort
Speaker 4: of disempower the energy that that person might have, sort
Speaker 4: of like ice them literally.
Speaker 5: I thought it was freezer, not fridge. Actually free it
Speaker 5: was free free freeze them out.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a bit like a modern version of a
Speaker 2: horse's head in someone's bed.
Speaker 1: It's easy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's less gangster as that, but yeah, just put
Speaker 4: them in the fridge.
Speaker 1: Has any put somebody's name in the freezer.
Speaker 5: I've got a few people I'd like to put in
Speaker 5: there that I'm holding some anger about something that happened
Speaker 5: to me a while ago. But I might put their
Speaker 5: names in the freezer. I think it would help me release.
Speaker 4: I've had warts once, and so someone tore it and
Speaker 4: count them and put them on a piece of paper,
Speaker 4: not not in my genitals, and let the creek at
Speaker 4: the bottom of my street take that piece of paper
Speaker 4: and let it flow away.
Speaker 1: Was it a witch? Was it a doctor? Was that
Speaker 1: a neighbor? Was it a Greek? Said? In like stroke form?
Speaker 4: Put the amount of wats you have, maybe I had
Speaker 4: five or six, Witchy woman, and I put them down,
Speaker 4: and she said, take that piece of paper and take
Speaker 4: it somewhere where there is flowing water.
Speaker 1: Well, at the bottom of.
Speaker 4: My street there was a creek, and she said, put
Speaker 4: that paper in the creek.
Speaker 1: Let that paper flow away.
Speaker 4: And well, I don't have them now, memory, excuse me,
Speaker 4: excuse me permission to ask a question I don't understand.
Speaker 5: Please explain. You weren't doing anything with the warts. Were
Speaker 5: you just like putting a mark on a piece of
Speaker 5: paper with a pet.
Speaker 3: You didn't need to name the warts, like John Howry.
Speaker 4: I just counted them and I put them those little sticks.
Speaker 1: What do you call them? Vertical lines?
Speaker 2: You mean?
Speaker 5: I would also like to refer to doctor Jenny's medical
Speaker 5: opinion on whether this may work for warts.
Speaker 3: I have not myself seen in the literature any meta
Speaker 3: analysis of writing down the number of warts on a
Speaker 3: piece of paper and sending it down to a creek.
Speaker 3: But I might have missed one. Bruner, Have you seen
Speaker 3: that study in your travel?
Speaker 5: No, I've never seen Mary yes, or heard of this
Speaker 5: method of getting rid of said wart. But to be fair,
Speaker 5: I've never seen a Ward on you in the thirty
Speaker 5: years i've known you, Perhaps Mary, congratulations on them.
Speaker 4: Let me just say, I don't know why you guys
Speaker 4: are so pro freezer an anti creek. We're both we're
Speaker 4: both writing something.
Speaker 5: Because you're talking about a physical symptom, whereas what the
Speaker 5: thing in the freezer does.
Speaker 1: That's an emotional way. Oh yeah, you're like your psychological Yeah,
Speaker 1: my ex was a physical symptom. He was in the freezer.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, we've got a little game to start.
Speaker 1: Love games. I love games. On your chair.
Speaker 2: You have a paddle, ladies, so I might call it
Speaker 2: a Marty Supreme ping pong. It's on one side you
Speaker 2: have the word guilty yes, and on the other one
Speaker 2: you flip it over not guilty. Well flipped, ladies. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't like where the this is going. Care Okay,
Speaker 2: there is a slip of paper on your chair, font
Speaker 2: size forty eight, ladies, So nobody grabbed for their glasses.
Speaker 1: We're all going to be fine.
Speaker 2: Okay, one at a time, we are going to read
Speaker 2: out what is on our paper, and the rest of
Speaker 2: us are going to hold up that.
Speaker 1: Paddle that says guilty or not guilty? Who are we
Speaker 1: going to start with? Mary? Yes? Okay, what have we got?
Speaker 4: I've RSVP to something I knew I was going to
Speaker 4: cancel last minute.
Speaker 5: Helly oh, guilty, guilty, guilty, not guilty, Mary, I don't
Speaker 5: pull out ball, don't you hear?
Speaker 1: That's what they all do? That's so not true. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't cop out okay, really? Ever? I feel bad? No, seriously,
Speaker 1: do you think I do? We all do it?
Speaker 6: You know what?
Speaker 1: I don't. I totally don't agree with that I turn up. Okay.
Speaker 1: If I say I'm going to do something, I'm going
Speaker 1: to do it all right now? Yeah? Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 4: You know what, if you don't want to turn up,
Speaker 4: just say you don't want to turn up.
Speaker 1: You can't have You can't be sitting on the fence
Speaker 1: on this one. You're either in or you're not.
Speaker 5: You know what, I apologize profusely because I have asked
Speaker 5: you to a New Year's Eve thing, thinking I'm the
Speaker 5: best offer you're going to get, and you're like, oh no,
Speaker 5: I already said yes to someone else, which in my
Speaker 5: mind was not nearly as good an offer.
Speaker 1: So to be fair to you, yes, you stuck with
Speaker 1: the O g R.
Speaker 4: S V p Oky and I don't want to say anything,
Speaker 4: but we're going to have an unleashed dinner.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and someone here pulled at last minute dot
Speaker 3: com to start.
Speaker 1: You said the start.
Speaker 3: Did you always intend to pull?
Speaker 1: No? I absolutely didn't.
Speaker 5: But I'm trying to be a better parent, guys.
Speaker 1: Parents.
Speaker 2: I think what I do is I say yes in
Speaker 2: the moment because I'll be excited about something. And what
Speaker 2: I really need to do is think about future me
Speaker 2: on that day, what time it is, what am I
Speaker 2: going to wear, do I really want to go?
Speaker 1: I need to futureself myself. Oh, I told you.
Speaker 5: I live by this because the late great Anthony mcguelan,
Speaker 5: my first boss mentor. He would say yes to everything,
Speaker 5: and then he said to me, I learned an important lesson.
Speaker 5: Every time someone asked you to do something, pretend it's
Speaker 5: that night and see if you'd still say yes.
Speaker 1: That's good. I like that, thank you.
Speaker 2: And I would add to that, you can say yes
Speaker 2: when you've just had your coffee in the morning, but
Speaker 2: you might say no when it's seven pm and you're
Speaker 2: running a bath.
Speaker 1: You don't leave the house.
Speaker 2: So I think, as well as future self, we should
Speaker 2: also think about if we're caffeinated and highly excited at
Speaker 2: that moment, as opposed to in our pajamas watching rifle kav.
Speaker 5: Next question, ladies, I've googled a symptom and convinced myself
Speaker 5: I'm dying.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, guilty, not guilty, not guilty, guilty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I am as Mary knows, as my
Speaker 5: husband knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys know.
Speaker 5: I have watched however many there are, and I think
Speaker 5: there's twenty three, maybe twenty two seasons of Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 5: So I am basically a medical doctor at the so
Speaker 5: in my Gray's Anatomy obsession and something I need to admit,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, doctor Jinny. Sometimes I cannot wait for the
Speaker 5: results of a scan, and I have been talking to
Speaker 5: Kat's friend Claude, and I have been known to put
Speaker 5: the scans into claud or chat GPT just to.
Speaker 1: Get a result, Just to get an early result. I'd
Speaker 1: love that. Okay, okay, good, That is really great.
Speaker 3: I like empowerment.
Speaker 1: I think that's very good.
Speaker 3: And these days, for anyone who has not enabled their
Speaker 3: My Health Record, more for you, because all of your
Speaker 3: results are uploaded into your My Health Record, so you
Speaker 3: don't have to make an appointment with your doctor to
Speaker 3: get a whole stack of normal blood test results.
Speaker 1: You know, unless they call you, you.
Speaker 3: Might actually be able to get them yourself and have
Speaker 3: a look at them. Of course, if they've got asterixes
Speaker 3: on them, you're gonna need to go and.
Speaker 1: See a doctor and talk about it.
Speaker 3: But otherwise I reckon, that's.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, No, I like it. I like it now.
Speaker 5: I go down a rabbit hole of things I think
Speaker 5: are wrong. I mean, there is a lot wrong with me,
Speaker 5: but I go down a rabbit hole of the other
Speaker 5: things that could be wrong with me and convince myself
Speaker 5: that something is there.
Speaker 3: I got to say, if you end up with a
Speaker 3: condition like Loopis, which there generally is a very long
Speaker 3: lag between the symptoms starting and actually getting a diagnosis,
Speaker 3: I get it why people are actually going to google
Speaker 3: their symptoms, because you know, when medicine is built to
Speaker 3: give you a five minute consultation and no one has
Speaker 3: the time to listen to everything, I totally get why
Speaker 3: you would start trying to take matters into your own hands.
Speaker 3: I think we've got to do better in the medical system,
Speaker 3: but we've got to be not judgmental of people who
Speaker 3: actually want to find out what's going on with their
Speaker 3: own bodies.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Love that I am legit.
Speaker 5: Between all the medical shows I watch and all the
Speaker 5: legal shows I watch, I'm basically a lawyer at this
Speaker 5: point and a medical doctor.
Speaker 3: Okay, ladies, are you ready, I've got the next question
Speaker 3: in our game. Guilty or not guilty. I've regifted a gift.
Speaker 1: Not guilty, not guilty, not guilty. Guilty or Mary.
Speaker 4: Or marry you said, I'm not going to regift it
Speaker 4: to the person who gave it to me.
Speaker 3: My grandmother was very famous for giving people a chilled
Speaker 3: book because she would get a gift and assume it
Speaker 3: was chocolate. It's not unpackage it out of the wrapping
Speaker 3: paper and just to get straight in the fridge and
Speaker 3: then take a chilled book to another friend maker.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Mary and I had a friend and
Speaker 5: I can't remember where it started, but there was a
Speaker 5: kind of ugly photo frame that someone got given, and
Speaker 5: then the joke was that it would just get constantly
Speaker 5: regifted on anyone birthday, so it just got passed around
Speaker 5: for years.
Speaker 1: Right, that ugly photo frame that's right now.
Speaker 4: Just question in order to defend myself because I am
Speaker 4: the guilty party here.
Speaker 1: What do you do with gifts you don't like?
Speaker 5: I put them in the cupboard or I and then
Speaker 5: what happens to them? Did they stay in the cake?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 5: I mean I maybe look under question out have I ever?
Speaker 5: Have I ever done it once?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 5: But I'm just it's not something I do a lot.
Speaker 5: So that's mine not guilty.
Speaker 2: I might have to waiver because now I'm thinking gifts
Speaker 2: to me I haven't regifted. I have gifted a shit
Speaker 2: tourn of birthday gifts that my son's received. Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: as a non lego lego type. They've got a lot
Speaker 2: of lego that I would there people giving them.
Speaker 1: No, But so I have regifted child stuff.
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: But can I just double tap on the ugly photo
Speaker 3: frame situation? If there's something so horrendous that I don't
Speaker 3: want it, I'm never going to give that to somebody
Speaker 3: else because I look like I've got foul taste and
Speaker 3: like and that I'm giving people disgusting stuff like I
Speaker 3: actually can't do it. So that's what God invented some
Speaker 3: vincit apaul for. And I just drive up to Viney's
Speaker 3: all the time and get rid.
Speaker 1: Of it, mayor you know me very well?
Speaker 5: Yes, what do people give me all the time that
Speaker 5: I hate with passion that I am either leading out
Speaker 5: in the street or actually regifting?
Speaker 1: This is bad.
Speaker 2: This could be a listen, who would flowers?
Speaker 1: You just know it's more specific than that bump plants
Speaker 1: or kids. Thank you.
Speaker 5: I have been given more orchids in my life than
Speaker 5: there are at a fricking funeral. Congratulations that goes under
Speaker 5: the regifting gifts, Like you know, our friends know that
Speaker 5: I hate indoor plants and I hate orchids, And how
Speaker 5: many orchids do I continue to receive?
Speaker 1: That is just so rude. It's so rude. People that
Speaker 1: know me should know. I'll take an orchid. You can
Speaker 1: have my next door my lego so much? Who's next me? Right?
Speaker 2: Guilty or not guilty? I've had anti wrinkle injections. Guilty, guilty, guilty,
Speaker 2: not guilty. Oh, because you've got skin on your face,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to wear.
Speaker 1: On your arm.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's got you've got lovely skin.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not because I don't think I would
Speaker 5: like and need an anti wrinkle injection. I just cannot
Speaker 5: like fathom the idea of an injection in my mouth
Speaker 5: or my face.
Speaker 2: I have gas when I have my injections, I don't
Speaker 2: feel anything into your face.
Speaker 1: No, I suck on the gas and then they put
Speaker 1: the injection in. Okay, well maybe that number. It's like
Speaker 1: the nineties again. Seconds, please send that number. I will
Speaker 1: be doing that.
Speaker 3: I held out to lost fifty seven. I don't know
Speaker 3: if that have you just.
Speaker 1: Started, just started. Oh if I could hide five you,
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: And it's it's for the neck. Yeah, I'm sort of
Speaker 3: love yeah, because nothing actually helps your freaking next. So
Speaker 3: who knew that you can have anti wrinkle injections into
Speaker 3: your jawline and it impacts your neck.
Speaker 4: I've done it once or twice. I can't say I
Speaker 4: like the effect. Look, this is the case with almost anything.
Speaker 4: You're at the mercy of the person's taste.
Speaker 1: Who's doing it.
Speaker 4: You know, like you don't want to go to some
Speaker 4: person that goes more is better, you know, like you
Speaker 4: want less is more, and you want it subtle and
Speaker 4: all of those things. Because my husband wouldn't know if
Speaker 4: someone was topless, but he could tell you if someone's
Speaker 4: had anti wrinkle injections topless, Well maybe he would, but
Speaker 4: he wouldn't know a haircut. If you've got a haircut,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't notice it. But he can spot them a
Speaker 4: bit like me with the two pay from across the
Speaker 4: room and go one is up with that face. They've
Speaker 4: just got to back away from the injection.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Look, it's not one of those things.
Speaker 1: Because I emote for a living. I need to use
Speaker 1: my face.
Speaker 4: But occasionally I'm going to go away and I'm not
Speaker 4: working for a month or two, or I'm riding.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't have a tiny bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's pretty.
Speaker 5: Bad that we're all thinking like this. I'm shocked, actually,
Speaker 5: the three of the four of us. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not saying I'm the natural beauty here now I'm kidding.
Speaker 5: I'm not obviously the natural beauty here. But like, I'm shocked.
Speaker 1: I would have thought it was more fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think you know, you have to be
Speaker 4: all in or all out. I think it's one of
Speaker 4: those things people.
Speaker 1: Have got to be in charge of whatever they can
Speaker 1: live with. Yes, that's my take on this. Jenny.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question as a professional, as
Speaker 4: a medical professional, what's the story on creatine.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere. It's the new black, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I get asked this, like I'm not kidding three or
Speaker 3: four times a day. I know Sally Hapworth will be
Speaker 3: all over the creat any you guys on it.
Speaker 1: I'm on that, but I don't know what it does.
Speaker 3: Are you on a gummy? You want a powder?
Speaker 1: I want to powadeck as a machake? I am on nothing.
Speaker 5: No, I am not on anything, although I have just
Speaker 5: signed up to this this new fangled wellness thing where
Speaker 5: they take your blood and then they send you what
Speaker 5: you should be on apparently, so I'm guessing in my
Speaker 5: cine there's going to be some creatine in my future.
Speaker 1: But I, like you have heard the word a lot lately.
Speaker 1: Is the sea word is everywhere? I know you're a
Speaker 1: little anti supplement. Would that be fair to.
Speaker 3: Say I'm not anti supplement. I just I think that
Speaker 3: the evidence would suggest that for most things, if you
Speaker 3: get it from your food, you are better off than
Speaker 3: if you have to take it out of What is,
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, an ultra processed product
Speaker 3: that has been made in a factory out of chemical
Speaker 3: ingredients and lots of plastic involved. The evidence is quite
Speaker 3: interesting for building muscle if you are working out and
Speaker 3: doing quite a lot of resistance exercise. There's no evidence
Speaker 3: that you can take creatine and not do exercise and
Speaker 3: still build all might interesting. Yeah, And the thing that
Speaker 3: I often get asked about is there evidence for like
Speaker 3: brain health, Like is it going to help my brain fog?
Speaker 3: And lots of my patients swear blind they take it
Speaker 3: and their brain fog.
Speaker 1: Just disappears, as gray Islam does.
Speaker 3: There's no evidence at all for any benefits in terms
Speaker 3: of brain fog or even preventing tomna at this stage.
Speaker 3: There are some studies that are being done, but they're
Speaker 3: like they're small. The methodology of the studies is pretty dodgy.
Speaker 3: I would say I don't take it, but I don't
Speaker 3: really take anything. I try and eat my nutrients. But
Speaker 3: I do think if you are going to take it,
Speaker 3: there's only really evidence for creatine monohydrate. There's quite a
Speaker 3: few other careatanes out there, and there was that whole
Speaker 3: thing that blew up about creatine gummies that turned out
Speaker 3: to have zero creatine in them, but's lots and lots
Speaker 3: of sugar. I think if there's any really good evidence
Speaker 3: that it could do amazing things for me when I'm
Speaker 3: not lifting my weight in iron every day. I'd probably
Speaker 3: take it, but I haven't seen the evidence. Just remember,
Speaker 3: I'm a doctor, but I'm not your doctor. So if
Speaker 3: you've got any specific medical questions, maybe booking c JP.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Look, there's a lot of you know, women especially, I
Speaker 4: think we're very prone to a product, whether it be
Speaker 4: a supplement or a makeup thing or whatever. And we
Speaker 4: love an exercise product that's going to give us immediate results,
Speaker 4: like the ABB cruncher, the AB curler do you remember that.
Speaker 1: To put my washing on it to drive?
Speaker 4: At least it got used. And then there was that
Speaker 4: ribbon one that you'd put around. It would jiggle you ribbon.
Speaker 4: It was comical.
Speaker 3: Okay, seriously, what is the most you have ever spent
Speaker 3: on a wellness thing? And I mean, I know Brunner,
Speaker 3: I have seen you in your ice bath. He's still
Speaker 3: enjoying a good eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, No, there's money that I've spent that I have.
Speaker 5: It's you know, paid dividends, but I have like everyone,
Speaker 5: remember when I mean some would say this is a
Speaker 5: good thing, but I bought the most expensive rebounder out there,
Speaker 5: you know, just like basically, let's just call it what
Speaker 5: it is, a mini trampoline, and the only people who
Speaker 5: used it literally during COVID, Well my kids would bounce
Speaker 5: up and down it occasionally, but that was probably the
Speaker 5: biggest waste of money. But the other thing that I
Speaker 5: always remember because I'm a big sucker for like an
Speaker 5: Instagram ad and I would buy those things, you know
Speaker 5: those I think they're well, you put them on your feet,
Speaker 5: You put them on your feet and exactly you supposed
Speaker 5: to suck out on the tops.
Speaker 1: I have bought a lot of those patches and things.
Speaker 3: That did you feel with them on your feet?
Speaker 5: Literally did nothing? Maybe remove some dead skin. But I've
Speaker 5: done a lot of that kind of stuff. I am
Speaker 5: very I am really guilty of, like buying like a
Speaker 5: wellness product that maybe I haven't used.
Speaker 1: But what I'm more guilty of is signing up to
Speaker 1: a fitness app. Yes, I mean how many. I've probably
Speaker 1: signed up to five now that I have never opened since.
Speaker 4: The free trial you used to go to, you know,
Speaker 4: like health farms some stuff and escape within hours.
Speaker 1: That is true.
Speaker 5: I have escaped many overpriced health retree because I made
Speaker 5: the mistake of going on my own and after like.
Speaker 1: Escaping, you're going on your own.
Speaker 5: You're spending the money, Like who's stopping you, it's for you.
Speaker 5: And I literally will pack my bags and I'll be
Speaker 5: out of there before the first breakfast. Funny, they're all
Speaker 5: over the world, but there is one in New South Wales.
Speaker 3: You are allowed to have a phone.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to.
Speaker 5: Like there's no televisions in the room, which for me
Speaker 5: is like it's like painful, but they're really beautiful rooms,
Speaker 5: like it's luxury. I don't do any of this, like
Speaker 5: you know, camping retreats, harve yourself. I do these like
Speaker 5: really nice places, and I'm like, oh, yeah, it's going
Speaker 5: to be great. So I don't know if someone gifted
Speaker 5: me this experience or if I gifted it to myself.
Speaker 1: But I drive out there.
Speaker 5: I think it's about two hours in my car, and
Speaker 5: I generally I do this when I check in, do
Speaker 5: I tell I don't tend to unpack my bag straight
Speaker 5: away just in case, you know, I like to be
Speaker 5: prepared for a potential exit. And I go to my
Speaker 5: room and it's really beautiful, and I think I've hidden
Speaker 5: the phone that I'm of course, I'm going to use
Speaker 5: it in my home. Like they're like, this is the
Speaker 5: first story. I've got three or four of these stories.
Speaker 5: But I go down to breakfast, and you know, obviously
Speaker 5: you're on a you know, a limited limited diet of
Speaker 5: some kind, depending on what you've chosen as your preference.
Speaker 1: Right. People are there for different reasons. Some people are
Speaker 1: there to meditate, obviously, that wasn't me. Some people are
Speaker 1: there to juice cleans. That also wasn't me.
Speaker 5: And some people are there to do a kind of
Speaker 5: calorie controlled eating plan to kind of reboot their bodies.
Speaker 1: That was me. You know. They try and make it.
Speaker 5: Look like like bespoken, like it's a five star restaurant,
Speaker 5: but it's so small and like there's basically nothing there,
Speaker 5: like you may as well be eating air.
Speaker 1: That was what it was like.
Speaker 5: And then I go back to the room and I
Speaker 5: think I probably called my husband at that point and
Speaker 5: probably you know, created some kind of story to make
Speaker 5: my for self feel better, like oh god, I should
Speaker 5: have come here with friends.
Speaker 1: And he's like, give it a night, just try and
Speaker 1: push through. Give it a night.
Speaker 5: Well I did give it a night, bag it home
Speaker 5: and I literally secretly make my way to my car
Speaker 5: with my suitcase because I am I am like a
Speaker 5: French exit.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying good by to anyone.
Speaker 3: Did someone ring and say, hey, Bruni, where are you?
Speaker 3: We can't find you?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: I probably, I think I probably my memory, if it's right,
Speaker 5: I probably made up some story that someone was ill
Speaker 5: and they needed me. Because I get really embarrassed with
Speaker 5: that stuff, like I am not I'm not good with
Speaker 5: like confronting, like because I think someone's going to talk
Speaker 5: me out of it. It's probably why I don't want
Speaker 5: to go to therapy anymore either. I just don't want.
Speaker 1: Someone looking at me in the eye and talking to
Speaker 1: me about it.
Speaker 5: So that is not the only retreat I've escaped and that,
Speaker 5: but what that was the first?
Speaker 4: You know, Bruno, I would have loved to have been
Speaker 4: your Could I have talked you into staying?
Speaker 1: Probably not, but we could have escaped together. I would
Speaker 1: have done that for you. And which brings me to
Speaker 1: what would you do for a good friend?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: We do things for family, but we sort of have to,
Speaker 1: don't we We do things for kids because they can't
Speaker 1: do it. They're just cute. They can't do things.
Speaker 4: But your friends are equally as able as you, and
Speaker 4: you tend to do things for them because you love
Speaker 4: them so much and because you think they take a
Speaker 4: bullet for me, wouldn't they? Which brings me to a
Speaker 4: story where I did something for Bruno that I was
Speaker 4: not comfortable with.
Speaker 1: This was many, many years ago.
Speaker 4: I had hosted an event for a powerful public figure.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that, would that be fair to say
Speaker 1: Brin a politician? Okay, no names, no names.
Speaker 4: Moving right along. Maybe this guy was a womanizer.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he was.
Speaker 4: He was very happy with how I hosted this very
Speaker 4: successful event for him, and he offered to take me
Speaker 4: out to dinner. And I said to Bruna, oh my god,
Speaker 4: as if I'm going to go out to dinner with
Speaker 4: blaodi blah right, And she said, oh yeah, You're going
Speaker 4: to go out.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: She goes, I'm shooting a low budget film and I
Speaker 4: need permits so I can shoot in the CBD. And you,
Speaker 4: my friend, are going out to dinner with him, and
Speaker 4: you are going to ask him to see whether he
Speaker 4: can get those permits through for me.
Speaker 5: I mean, just let me said the scene I was
Speaker 5: an up and coming producer. I was making my first
Speaker 5: kind of low budget movie where every cent counts, and
Speaker 5: I needed my friend to come through for me for
Speaker 5: what was a very important thing at the time.
Speaker 1: Now, I CAC might get involved at this point. If
Speaker 1: I go into too much more detail, we're going to watch.
Speaker 1: So this happened the day though. Well.
Speaker 4: He booked a very nice restaurant with a view of
Speaker 4: the city, and I said to Bruna, you're going to
Speaker 4: turn up towards the end of the main course because
Speaker 4: I don't want to be dessert.
Speaker 1: So we said that.
Speaker 4: Such and such said would you like a shampa? So
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know I'm not staying long.
Speaker 1: He orders the shapers. What would you like to eat?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm pretty.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to use the word easy because I
Speaker 4: didn't want to plant any seeds. I said, I'm like.
Speaker 4: So we ordered and we're making small talk and there
Speaker 4: come the main courses, all nice.
Speaker 1: And yum yums.
Speaker 4: We're having the main course, and you wouldn't believe who
Speaker 4: walked in and walk I go BRUTTI hi, and she said,
Speaker 4: did you forget that we had that thing on tonight?
Speaker 1: Very sex and the city. Yeah, and here is looking at.
Speaker 4: Me, confused, wiping the sides of his mouth with his nap,
Speaker 4: going what's going on?
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, Brunie, I'm so sorry. I forgot.
Speaker 4: We had that thing on and and we we we
Speaker 4: left and but did that stop him? No, that did
Speaker 4: not lease.
Speaker 5: I did get the permit, but then it was over
Speaker 5: for me, but it was not over for Mary.
Speaker 4: We apparently were a couple to watch in two thousand.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we we we made it. You know, at
Speaker 4: the end of the year, how they capture I was
Speaker 4: seeing that night with such and such and they had
Speaker 4: us in the Ross Rains com couple to watch in
Speaker 4: two thousand.
Speaker 1: Thanks Brunie. Yeah, that's really good. This is the last bet.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't give up. And he was very, very proactive.
Speaker 4: Let's just call it that. I'm a big girl. I
Speaker 4: don't mind someone being proactive. I'm going to be pro honest.
Speaker 4: So I remembered such and such called me on the
Speaker 4: mobile and I answered the phone. I remember exactly where
Speaker 4: I was, and he said, how would you like to
Speaker 4: come to this event with me?
Speaker 1: And I said, I don't know how many.
Speaker 4: Times I have to tell you I am not interested,
Speaker 4: and then he says, yes, but it'd be a lovely
Speaker 4: event and we could catch up and have a drink
Speaker 4: and whatever.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, such and such. You give me no.
Speaker 4: Option but to be completely honest, I'm going to say this.
Speaker 4: You've pushed me to say this. I will never suck
Speaker 4: you off.
Speaker 1: And that was it.
Speaker 4: Job was done, game over.
Speaker 1: Word for word about this. Years later, I bump into
Speaker 1: him a trot fast and he's high. Mary. You know
Speaker 1: I didn't touch the sides. The guy was teflon.
Speaker 3: How did you thank your best friend for doing this
Speaker 3: amazing good deed for you.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to repay her twenty years later. Still,
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Wow, guys, gear change, let's do blast from the past.
Speaker 1: We love this.
Speaker 3: This is where we go back in time, dig deep
Speaker 3: into your memories. Guys, we are all now in our fifties,
Speaker 3: maybe even beyond, and we've transformed a lot since we
Speaker 3: were in our twenties. What was a personality? Maybe reputation?
Speaker 3: What do people think of you that you have worked
Speaker 3: your ass off to actually shed Brunner.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not sure I worked hard on shedding this,
Speaker 5: but I had no choice but to shed. How should
Speaker 5: we put it my what's the great wording, hod On,
Speaker 5: I've worked hard physical philanthrop thank you, I've worked hard
Speaker 5: to shed my physical philanthropy, my physical philanthropy. How yeah,
Speaker 5: how generous and charitable I'm giving with my body, and
Speaker 5: also just how generous and charitable I was and care
Speaker 5: free in terms of you know, what I did didn't put.
Speaker 1: My body through in my twenties.
Speaker 5: I probably worked hard to shad that, I would say,
Speaker 5: and I think of that.
Speaker 1: I laugh when I think of that.
Speaker 5: But also I do think obviously I've grown as a person,
Speaker 5: so I've.
Speaker 1: Probably shared a few words that are associated with that.
Speaker 3: Mary, what have you worked out on since the heady
Speaker 3: days of Acropolis?
Speaker 4: Now, I think I might have been at the mercy
Speaker 4: of other people's reputations. I think I deliberately chose to
Speaker 4: ignore data on certain people. I liked a little bit
Speaker 4: of a rebel, and I liked someone that was polarizing.
Speaker 1: I thought that was daring, but.
Speaker 4: What it turned out to be was, you know, they
Speaker 4: were our souls or you know, just dirty dogs or
Speaker 4: shifty people that I would never touch with a ten
Speaker 4: foot pole these days, so I think I've become a
Speaker 4: lot more discerning. I'm really open to difference, but I'm
Speaker 4: not open to dysfunction anymore.
Speaker 3: Nice transformation.
Speaker 1: H Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I moved here in my mid twenties. I was
Speaker 2: twenty six, so I think I had like a real
Speaker 2: move the other side of the world, reinvention, and I
Speaker 2: just that brought confidence. When I was in the UK
Speaker 2: and London, like I just played it small. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have gone after my dreams and then coming here, it's
Speaker 2: like I've been on this perpetual holiday where twenty six
Speaker 2: years later, I still.
Speaker 1: Think, WHOA, well, why not why not try this stuff?
Speaker 1: I'm not really from here. At any point I could
Speaker 1: go back home.
Speaker 2: So I think I've taken loads of chances and just
Speaker 2: played big since I moved here.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Not that I had a crazy past, but yeah, it
Speaker 2: was a refresh and I just had the confidence to
Speaker 2: try things that I would never have tried in London.
Speaker 2: You know, it felt like it was smaller Sydney and
Speaker 2: you could kind of reach for the stars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know with me.
Speaker 4: You know, my dad died when I was twenty three,
Speaker 4: and life got pretty heavy, even though you know, my
Speaker 4: career had taken off literally within weeks of my father's death,
Speaker 4: I felt like Sydney was my place where I could
Speaker 4: reinvent myself and I'm Bruna and I lived in Melbourne
Speaker 4: together and then in Sydney together. I felt like Sydney
Speaker 4: was the city like my parents had gone away for
Speaker 4: the weekend and it just felt like a fun, lighter,
Speaker 4: brighter place for me. It lacked the depth that Melbourne
Speaker 4: had and the intensity and the cultural sort of consciousness
Speaker 4: of Melbourne, which I really really love. But Sydney allowed
Speaker 4: me to be lighter when I needed to be lighter
Speaker 4: because everything felt heavy.
Speaker 3: I love that. In my twenties, I had three children
Speaker 3: and was an uber nerd married young, incredibly conservative, just
Speaker 3: studied and was really taking parenting very seriously. And I
Speaker 3: don't think I laughed enough. Like literally, Bruna, we were
Speaker 3: polar opposites. While you were carving it up and being wild,
Speaker 3: I was just nose down in the books and nappies
Speaker 3: and taking my children's milestones way too seriously. And I
Speaker 3: think I've just lightened the hell up since I've got
Speaker 3: you older, and I kind of wish i'd done it
Speaker 3: a bit earlier, Like I actually really embraced the hardcore
Speaker 3: nerd when I was younger, but I missed out on
Speaker 3: a lot too in my.
Speaker 1: What could have been the best years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, or you can look at it the other way.
Speaker 5: I think it's leg swings roundabouts. I think sometimes you
Speaker 5: do that in your twenties and then your fifties are
Speaker 5: for something else.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I hate people to think that they peak then and
Speaker 4: that that's done.
Speaker 1: With as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're lucky that we're you know, we continue
Speaker 4: to chase highs in different ways. Yes, And I'm really
Speaker 4: excited for you, Jinny. I think that you know, you've
Speaker 4: got grandchildren. Now you've got you know, your kids are
Speaker 4: up and running, they're doing their stuff.
Speaker 1: In the world. All is good.
Speaker 4: You've started this incredible skin care brand, you're still practicing
Speaker 4: as a GP. I just love it. I think this
Speaker 4: is your time now, you know. I would hate for
Speaker 4: it to have been so far ago that that you
Speaker 4: know that it's dimming as you go forward.
Speaker 1: I would hate that. All right, all right, it is
Speaker 1: time for drum roll. Thanks Mary. Other people's problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the part of the show.
Speaker 2: You send us your dilemmas, your questions, and your moral
Speaker 2: gray areas, and we attempt to offer you good advice,
Speaker 2: which is, let's be honest, usually way off the mark right.
Speaker 2: This week's problem comes from Sarah in Brisbane.
Speaker 1: Hi, ladies, I need a ruling.
Speaker 6: My husband Dave turned fifty last year and instead of
Speaker 6: like buying a sports car or getting a tattoo, doing
Speaker 6: all those midlife crisis things, he's got a new hobby
Speaker 6: and it's Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 1: He's assist with what.
Speaker 6: He calls these are not my words, the thrill of
Speaker 6: the negotiation. That means at our garage is now filled
Speaker 6: with three broken down lawnmowers, this huge grandfather clock that
Speaker 6: doesn't even tick, and a twelve old foot disassembled trampoline.
Speaker 6: We don't even have kids, and we don't have a garden.
Speaker 6: We have a courtyard. Here's the crisis. So last night
Speaker 6: I caught him messaging a stranger about a secondhand commercial
Speaker 6: deep prior and what should be going to do with that?
Speaker 6: When I said absolutely not, he looked me straight in
Speaker 6: the eye and he said, Sarah, you don't understand the market.
Speaker 6: I can flip it for double by Tuesday. Like this
Speaker 6: man has never flipped anything in his entire life. Am
Speaker 6: I married to some sort of entrepreneurial genius and I
Speaker 6: just don't understand how great he is. Or am I
Speaker 6: going to be stuck with this and have a house
Speaker 6: that stinks like a vision ship shop?
Speaker 1: Can you help me? Oh my god, that is genius brilliant.
Speaker 1: Oh I can flip it by Tuesday. Oh I love it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't it remind you of the castle dreaming? My thought, Sarah,
Speaker 3: is if he has like an external venue to go
Speaker 3: and take his market book place on entrepreneurial genius, somewhere
Speaker 3: to live, right, maybe rent a garage somewhere, and he's
Speaker 3: out of your house, you know, don't forget we had
Speaker 3: the segment that went off the other people's problems. Where
Speaker 3: was it Debbie whose husband had retired and was at
Speaker 3: home like a millstone around her neck?
Speaker 1: Sarah, this is the gift.
Speaker 3: This is the thing that is going to save your marriage.
Speaker 3: Get him, Tell him he's a genius, but he's just
Speaker 3: too small the house. He needs to spread his wings,
Speaker 3: take that entrepreneurial genius and multiply it. Fantastic. Bye, spend
Speaker 3: the whole day there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the man Cave, but off premises, off premises. Yeah, look,
Speaker 4: I get Facebook Marketplace. I don't mind a little bit
Speaker 4: of a sniff around there on the d occasion. I mean,
Speaker 4: do we have proof that he's flipping stuff? It sounds
Speaker 4: like nothing's been flipped. And I love her, I love
Speaker 4: his energy.
Speaker 1: You like a bit of Facebook make You've so many
Speaker 1: things on Facebook.
Speaker 4: I bought I bought a motorbike helmet.
Speaker 1: Well, my husband bought a motorbike. I'm not allowed to
Speaker 1: tell his parents and they're eighty seven and ninety three.
Speaker 1: Don't tell my parents.
Speaker 3: But if somebody's dropped it, it could have a crack in it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it doesn't say I had that.
Speaker 4: I put it in the mail and I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: They're not gonna fit in the letter box, is it?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 4: Look a friend of mine I went to her house
Speaker 4: recently and she had this beautiful glass table and she
Speaker 4: bought it for six hundred dollars. It was an Italian
Speaker 4: brand and it was worth nine thousand.
Speaker 1: Why had it? Didn't know? She knew what brands to
Speaker 1: look for and she bought it for six hundred. That's
Speaker 1: a good story for Sarah.
Speaker 4: Look, you've got to know what you're looking for, and
Speaker 4: it's got to be stuff that you can resell.
Speaker 1: You've got to know what the.
Speaker 3: Marketplace's husband clearly does because he's got that trampoline, and
Speaker 3: I spy a genius in that.
Speaker 5: I gotta say, I'm not, as you know, I wish
Speaker 5: I was better at reselling because I tend to just
Speaker 5: give everything away. But I have gone on Facebook mark Place,
Speaker 5: and I do understand the allure for the husband. Like
Speaker 5: I will go on there and suddenly I'm not kidding,
Speaker 5: you guys are gonna laugh.
Speaker 1: I think I need like a camper van. I'm like, oh, youfice.
Speaker 1: I don't even like to go hiking. I've got no.
Speaker 5: Business, but I have these like visions and I see
Speaker 5: these camper vans on Facebook market and I'm like, I
Speaker 5: got to turn it into like a little mobile office. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and when I'm filming, I could have my own little
Speaker 5: mobile trailer. And so I make these like I just
Speaker 5: have this whole thing in my head. So I do
Speaker 5: understand the allure. But I think Sarah's instincts are spot
Speaker 5: on with like the commercial fryer. Anything that would bring
Speaker 5: maybe too much oil or smell into that, I think
Speaker 5: you need.
Speaker 1: To put your foot down.
Speaker 5: But I would, you know, unless he's got a gambling habit.
Speaker 5: Or something I would encourage. The Facebook marketplace, it just.
Speaker 2: Looks addictive whenever I've gone on it by accident.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, Like you fell on your computer
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're on Facebook market.
Speaker 2: Sometimes if you go on to your Facebook app on
Speaker 2: your phone and you hit the wrong thing tab, it
Speaker 2: takes you and yeah, it takes you to.
Speaker 1: The mast place.
Speaker 2: Yes, accident, my glasses on, and it's just it's a
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. It's an hour of my time that's gone.
Speaker 2: And it's exactly that you're like this stuff. What if
Speaker 2: I did start jousting, like, you know, what if I
Speaker 2: wanted What if I got into like medieval role play
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 1: Next guy I meet on an app? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't say no to this stuff. I've got
Speaker 2: stuff i'd like to get rid of.
Speaker 3: It's actually, can you just send us his number?
Speaker 1: Because I actually have a whole house of stuff i'd
Speaker 1: like him to buy.
Speaker 3: And so I've been thinking about how difficult it would
Speaker 3: be to negotiating in the marketplace, but like, maybe I
Speaker 3: just go straight to him the middle man.
Speaker 1: I think I think we should get Sarah to give
Speaker 1: us Dave's.
Speaker 4: Details cut out, you know, Zuckerberg doesn't need any any
Speaker 4: more money from Dave, and we cut it a nice
Speaker 4: cash deal.
Speaker 3: We've got some exercise equipment that's going begging like a
Speaker 3: great clothes hanger.
Speaker 2: What about your feet suckers? Yes, you still got those?
Speaker 2: Can we resell them?
Speaker 1: I just like Dave's entrepreneurial ship, A deep r a
Speaker 1: commercial deep rier. I mean, this guy's thinking big. Well,
Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today.
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