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Speaker 3: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 4: your Face.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kella mccaren and welcome to the formula.

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Speaker 4: Every single week, I'm lucky enough to chat to all

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Speaker 4: sorts of celebs, experts, and the biggest names in beauty. Today,

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Speaker 4: we are delving into the wonderful wide world, if you will,

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Speaker 4: of gut health, more specifically understanding the gut health access

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Speaker 4: and how gut health can then affect and manifest itself

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Speaker 4: onto your skin.

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Speaker 1: And if you didn't realize that.

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Speaker 4: Bad gut health could do us such keep listening because

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Speaker 4: we have the Goddess of gut health here to break

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Speaker 4: it all down for you, none other than the Beauty

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Speaker 4: Chef's Carlo Oats, who is here to talk about the

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Speaker 4: fascinating connection between gut health and skin. Now, you were

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Speaker 4: just going to absolutely love this chat so much. I

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Speaker 4: loved it so much that we're going to have to

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Speaker 4: get color back in for part two quite soon, because

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Speaker 4: we didn't even get to touch on her skin routine.

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Speaker 1: And I actually also.

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Speaker 4: Just even for selfish reasons, want to know exactly what

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Speaker 4: she takes every day because my very word, she just

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Speaker 4: glows from the inside out, not just like aesthetically, she's

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Speaker 4: also just a really great person. And we hit it

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Speaker 4: off like a house on fire and did not stop

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Speaker 4: yapping until we were booted right on out of the studios.

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Speaker 3: You are such beautiful skin.

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Speaker 1: But how.

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Speaker 4: We have not stopped yapping since we met in the

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Speaker 4: lunch room and I accosted you by going.

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Speaker 1: WHOA, I thought you were going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: older than you are.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I guess I did start

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's working, because there's no way you have two

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Speaker 4: Firstly, we do just need to preface this chat by

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Speaker 4: making it clear that neither of us Shock Horror are

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Speaker 4: doctors or dermatologists or you know, health professionals.

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Speaker 4: Are listening and you've got actual concerns with your skin,

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Speaker 4: you know, flare ups of different sorts or concerns with

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Speaker 4: your gut health. Please go talk to your GP and

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Speaker 4: make sure that you get the professional help that you need. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: So color your own journey with your company started with

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Speaker 4: xmera as a kid, and then watching your daughter go

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Speaker 4: already think about how much I will struggle watching Len

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Speaker 4: That, like talk us through your own history with exma

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Speaker 4: Gut, yes, Because I'm just thinking, I'm like, do you

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Speaker 1: Would you know if you had a leaky gut.

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Speaker 2: So, because your gut regulates you know, your skin health,

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Speaker 1: Does that have everything? It's got so much Oh good.

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Speaker 3: Just got your pre pro post biotics.

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Speaker 2: It's got fermented ingredients, it's got vitamins and minerals and nutrients.

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Speaker 2: So we say glow if you're under fifty, glow ageless

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Speaker 2: if you're over fifty. And that's just one teaspoon per day.

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Speaker 2: It's good water with water in your favorite bed bridges.

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Speaker 2: It's powdery, but.

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Speaker 1: Like when you drink it, is it powdery.

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Speaker 2: It's lovely water because it kind of just goes into

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Speaker 2: a beautiful berry drink.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's really nice. And then if you've got more.

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Speaker 2: Significant gut ishes and you want those repairing nutrients, we've

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Speaker 2: also got the gut Primer, which you can have with

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Speaker 2: your glow in the morning, and we've had incredible results

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Speaker 2: with people saying a difference in their gut health, their

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Speaker 2: skin health, and their wellness with those products together. But

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Speaker 2: if I was going to say about something really simple,

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Speaker 2: it would be just choose low GI and low HI foods,

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Speaker 2: like just a Mediterranean style diet, anti inflammatory, stay away

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Speaker 2: from processed foods, and that's it. And low HI which

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Speaker 2: is my term for low human intervention foods.

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Speaker 1: Ahead that before. That's very clever.

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Speaker 2: So like, you know, just do a lot of soups

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Speaker 2: and stews and bone bross. I've actually got a book

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Speaker 2: called The Gut Guide. It takes you through a whole

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Speaker 2: routine in different stages of repairing the gut. So it's

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Speaker 2: calming and healing the gut, weeding the gut, feeding the gut,

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Speaker 2: and then feeding the gut. But if I was going

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Speaker 2: to for general people who just want to improve their

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Speaker 2: gut health, had say low GI, low HI, whole foods,

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Speaker 2: anti inflammatory diet, get your good fats, clean water, try

464
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Speaker 2: to reduce stressed yoga, walking, meditation.

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Speaker 1: All the things that we know are we I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean I always laugh because I always do

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Speaker 2: scroll and I you know, the algorithm always fleaeds me

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Speaker 2: things on health and they're like, oh you know, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, pomegranates, Oh my god, kale, and so everyone

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Speaker 2: rushes and it's like and suddenly, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: shortage of kale or celery or pomegran Yeah, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're all amazing, but all whole foods yea, And in

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Speaker 2: fact you want all different types.

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Speaker 4: How long after implementing these sorts of changes and starting

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Speaker 4: to take care of your gut, can you expect to

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Speaker 4: see a change in your skin?

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Speaker 3: In your body?

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Speaker 2: I think you can see changes within days. Wow, in

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Speaker 2: your skin. It takes your skin, is certain, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight days for skin cells to renew. So, I

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Speaker 2: mean I have people said they see difference almost straight away.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's also cause you feel better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's bloat up in a little stuff. You're happier.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You have that spring in your step. And with this skin,

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Speaker 2: you know, within a month you should notice big changes.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay that's good to know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I believe in balance. Yes, yes, i'd like you know,

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Speaker 2: some people are like, yeah, sixty forty. I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: like ninety ten. I love my glass of pino noir.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a coffee drinker, but I love black tea.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I but you know, with pino noir, I just justified.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, King's College in the UK, they did

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Speaker 2: a study to show that red wine.

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Speaker 1: Red wine has it's.

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Speaker 2: Polly females, it's actually quite good for your gut health.

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Speaker 2: But I think the study was like it's fifty mil

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Speaker 2: over a two week period or something, and I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't look at that part

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like, but it's a glass here and there.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 3: That's it. And also you just have to listen to

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Speaker 3: your body. It's like if you feel.

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Speaker 1: Also good for stress free, look kind of.

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Speaker 2: When you start to feel depleted and you're seeing in

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Speaker 2: your skin, you have to go, Okay, maybe for a

510
00:25:56,825 --> 00:25:58,505
Speaker 2: period of time, there's things I just need to let go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're feeling strong.

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Speaker 2: And vibrant and healthy, then you have a little bit

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Speaker 2: more room to kind of, you know, have some of

514
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Speaker 2: those things that maybe aren'ts are great.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, that's that's a good way to look at it,

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Speaker 4: all right, So there are things that we can all

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Speaker 4: try at home to Miniest. Before this interview, I was thinking, oh, yeah,

518
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Speaker 4: my gut's just fine. And the talking to you, it's

519
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Speaker 4: been shouting for help.

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Speaker 1: It has been please help me. So she's here, she's.

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Speaker 4: So I really think that we've learned a lot today,

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Speaker 4: and I think that it's something that everyone can sort

523
00:26:35,865 --> 00:26:38,065
Speaker 4: of take something away, whether or not it's affecting them

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Speaker 4: or someone that's in their family.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think you know, tell people about gut health

526
00:26:43,225 --> 00:26:46,265
Speaker 2: and pass that message on, knowing that it controls or

527
00:26:46,345 --> 00:26:49,985
Speaker 2: regulates so much if you've got immune issues, metabolic issues,

528
00:26:50,105 --> 00:26:53,625
Speaker 2: brain issues, skin issues, it's like, really, you know, the

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Speaker 2: gut is a great place to start to investigate.

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Speaker 4: I love that, all right, Thank you so much, Calor

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Speaker 4: for joining us. Thank you so Color, Thank you so

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00:27:01,945 --> 00:27:05,385
Speaker 4: much for sharing your expertise on gut health and how

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00:27:05,425 --> 00:27:08,505
Speaker 4: it can affect your skin so much today, I know

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Speaker 4: everyone is going to have learnt so much.

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Speaker 1: And also you've left us all.

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Speaker 4: Wanting more, so we're gonna have to get you back

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Speaker 4: quite quickly. And that's all the time we have for

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Speaker 4: today because we're booted out at the studio. Otherwise I

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Speaker 4: would have just kept having a yup and a yarn.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to this episode, and

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Speaker 4: please go and check us out on Instagram at TikTok.

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