WEBVTT - Sam Mac On What Instagram Doesn’t Tell You About Parenting

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<v Speaker 1>The Baby Bubble with Claire and Jesse Stevens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not a parenting advice podcast. Jesse, something I've

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<v Speaker 2>been really surprised by since having a child is how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly you can tell their personality, like you know who

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<v Speaker 2>they are pretty soup. Well, maybe it's like confirmation bias,

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<v Speaker 2>but like Matilda's almost nine months now, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you were you when you came charging charging out of

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<v Speaker 2>the van. You looked around and you said, to my

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<v Speaker 2>the drama and everyone said a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you're my everything. And we've often said

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<v Speaker 2>that our two girls, despite being technically half half siblings

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<v Speaker 2>because of their DNA with identical twins, as mums mums,

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<v Speaker 2>they are very different people. And the thing about Luna

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<v Speaker 2>and Matilda is that we are able to look at

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<v Speaker 2>them and be like, Okay, in life, you have Lunas

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<v Speaker 2>and you have Matilda's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're only two types pop.

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<v Speaker 2>There are only two types people, and they are it

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<v Speaker 2>and so one kind of litmus test I had recently

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<v Speaker 2>was Matilda goes through a cafe. She gets a baby

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<v Speaker 2>Chino four cream milk and a pastry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of gal. She is like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Croissan, like a brownie, like a brownie. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>yep do Luna Luna? Yeah one, she's like Toserin or

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<v Speaker 2>she was. She's working through it. So she can't have

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<v Speaker 2>the foot greenment. No, So Luna has a long black

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<v Speaker 2>which is wrong a lot for it's heaped because she's

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<v Speaker 2>only fourteen months old.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a long black is you know? One a day?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's fine. Yeah, it's not. And a cigarette. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she has sick because she's very her energy is very.

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<v Speaker 2>It is and she's also I've had this ye she

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<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to some experts about it who've said she's

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<v Speaker 2>just not driven by food. We've got some issues with

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<v Speaker 2>her lack of enthusiastic. She's very like she's very Parisian

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<v Speaker 2>in that way, whereas Matilda is like a cake.

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<v Speaker 1>How about pasta?

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<v Speaker 2>So hang on, they go out to a restaurant, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is Matilda ordering a steak? So Matilda could order I

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<v Speaker 2>think like a big creamy pasta, Yeah, a big creamy

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<v Speaker 2>pasta and a coke, whereas Lunar has a glass of

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<v Speaker 2>red wine. Yeah, and like she really likes a hot ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like definitely, just aside she's not ordering a mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you were saying the other day just in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of holiday preferences, you we used to play this game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it with celebrities, with people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I highly recommend. It's called would they holiday to Kuda?

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<v Speaker 2>And you would choose people in Australia and you'd go

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Sandalance for example, he'd love he'd love Koda. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Sofi Munk love Cooter And then you go, okay, how

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<v Speaker 2>about I was going to say Larry Emda he'd love Cooda.

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<v Speaker 1>How about how.

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<v Speaker 2>About like then you go carry bigmore. She wouldn't love Koda, No,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got other places she wants to be. So would

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<v Speaker 2>Matilda love Cooter. So the thing this is the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Matilda would love Kuda. I think Matilda would buy a

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<v Speaker 2>bintang sing she would, whereas Luna would not be caught

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<v Speaker 2>deaddah nah, She'd hate it. She'd be like too much noise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a Semenyak Galley, Yeah, or Changu.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go to Changu. Yeah, but I'm not even passing

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<v Speaker 1>through Kood.

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<v Speaker 2>Matilda's still stuck in Kuda having a dance, having the

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<v Speaker 2>time of her life. Our guest this week is Sam Mack.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Sam Mack as Sunrise's beloved weather man, traveling

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<v Speaker 2>all across the country to wake people up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also an author. He has a debut book called

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly One and it is a celebration of the milestones

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<v Speaker 2>from a baby's first year of life. It is out

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<v Speaker 2>now and you should definitely go and get it. And

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<v Speaker 2>most crucially, he's very much back in the baby bubble

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<v Speaker 2>with the arrival of his second daughter, Mabel, just this August.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Sam, Hello, good, how are you really well?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for having me on today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us. Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you please describe for our listeners what your family

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<v Speaker 2>looks like now?

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<v Speaker 3>Chaos. We are in transition.

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<v Speaker 4>We've gone from one beautiful daughter to two beautiful daughters

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<v Speaker 4>literally in the last couple of weeks. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>big adjustment and it's a bit of a mess, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's a beautiful mess. Everything is great. Everyone healthy, mostly happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Things are awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So today, as we're speaking, how old is your elder

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<v Speaker 2>daughter and how old is your youngest?

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<v Speaker 4>Margo is about to turn two in just over a

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<v Speaker 4>week actually, so almost two, and Mabel is three weeks old, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Too under two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, you're in the newborn bubble again right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know what you had forgotten, because I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder dies like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Trauma of being in the baby bubble, just to raise

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<v Speaker 2>your memory. And then it happens again and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot this was a baby. Has there been anything

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<v Speaker 2>that has surprised you?

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<v Speaker 3>I've forgotten how tiny they are.

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of people say this, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>you go from one to two, A lot of people say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, before you go in to have that second baby,

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<v Speaker 4>take the time to really feel your oldest and get

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<v Speaker 4>to feel every part of their size of their hands,

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<v Speaker 4>the size of their feet, because suddenly they will feel

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<v Speaker 4>like a giant.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so true. As soon as soon as we

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<v Speaker 3>brought Mabel home, like the tiny feet really get me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's now they are like minute like they pretend they pretend,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when like you used to have a packet

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<v Speaker 4>of twisties and you put it in the microwave when

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<v Speaker 4>they shrink down to it like it's shrunk feet, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're delicious and glorious.

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<v Speaker 3>And I sound like a creeper, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I must ask you because I see on my Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>and my TikTok, I see a lot of videos of

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<v Speaker 2>siblings meeting for the first time, and there's romantic music.

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<v Speaker 2>They walk in, they hold that even though they're tiny,

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<v Speaker 2>they hold the new baby and they say I love

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<v Speaker 2>you for ever, and they give them a kiss and

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<v Speaker 2>they're so gentle. Is that exactly what happened when your

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<v Speaker 2>two girls met?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the great thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think a lot of what I'd love to

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<v Speaker 4>chat with you guys about today is, you know, expectation

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<v Speaker 4>versus reality, And you're totally right.

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<v Speaker 3>I had.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all have visions of what that moment

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be like, and I had all of

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<v Speaker 4>those thoughts in my mind, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The reality is just not that.

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<v Speaker 4>The reality is people are stressed about how long they

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<v Speaker 4>can park in the whole hospital car parks. Grandparents have

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<v Speaker 4>forgotten to dress them and the thing you asked and

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<v Speaker 4>to dress to me out to the grandparents. There's all

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<v Speaker 4>of these things, and when it comes to like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in the business like you guys, of making content like

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<v Speaker 4>we make it for TV. I do live TV every

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<v Speaker 4>single day, a lot of social content. So you've become

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a perfectionist or there's ways that you

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<v Speaker 4>like to do things in certain look. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>guys had me move my position of this camera because

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<v Speaker 4>you can see the back of my head in the

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<v Speaker 4>mirror right right before, you know what that So I

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<v Speaker 4>went in with all that in my mind. But then

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<v Speaker 4>the reality was Margot, who was almost inconvenienced immediately by

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that there was someone else number one taking attention.

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<v Speaker 4>But the first word she said when she held Mabel

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<v Speaker 4>was stuck as she felt like, why am I stuck

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<v Speaker 4>with this thing on me?

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<v Speaker 3>Like with the video thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I definitely wanted to catch that moment because I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's so important, not only for us. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>lucky enough to have a beautiful following who really loved

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<v Speaker 4>to see what's going on in our lives, and we

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<v Speaker 4>share little bits and pieces, and I love the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of Mabel and Margo being able to watch this when

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<v Speaker 4>they're older, and you know, eighteen twenty first all of

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wanted to have a nice video.

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<v Speaker 4>But I realized when I looked at the video footage

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of days after it happened, that I had

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<v Speaker 4>to make two videos to make reality. So expectation was, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>we had some beautiful tender moments, the kiss on the head,

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<v Speaker 4>the classics.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that was so sweet.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the reality, which was probably my favorite video

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<v Speaker 4>because that's that's what actually happens is Margo tried to

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<v Speaker 4>poke Mabel's eyes, Margot touching her lips, throwing toys at her,

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<v Speaker 4>telling us that she's stuck into the portable bacinet, and

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<v Speaker 4>have an absolute meltdown because she wasn't allowed in the bacinette.

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<v Speaker 4>So eventually, like a lot of parents who just go

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<v Speaker 4>all right, we'll put you in outside. So Margot wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to go outside into the main area of the hospital

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<v Speaker 4>whilst holding her you know, one day old, and of

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<v Speaker 4>course that I go out to do one little lap.

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<v Speaker 4>The midwives start to walk past it like we are

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<v Speaker 4>not seeing this, Yeah, So it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just it was chaos.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that's as I got home and thought

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<v Speaker 4>about and had time to look at the video, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's all we've got to look forward to. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>reality of parenting. It's not what you've planned. You might

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<v Speaker 4>have things in your mind, but they are their own people.

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<v Speaker 4>They will make their own decisions and you just need

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<v Speaker 4>to work around that, work with that to the best you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can, exactly, and in terms of those kind of expectations

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<v Speaker 2>versus reality, you have a brand new children's book out

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<v Speaker 2>called Suddenly One which made me cry. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>rough week with my baby having a fall that was

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<v Speaker 2>my fault, and I was looking at the book and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, this is so sweet. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>a line about babies first fall, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, I'm a terrible mother. They got me.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the one about the last and it said like

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<v Speaker 2>the last time will swaddow you, the last time we'll

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<v Speaker 2>feed you to sleep, And I was like, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't slept enough to deal with these emotions. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>How old are your little ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Mine's eight months, yeah, and Luna is fourteen months?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, cool, Yes, I'm that book park, Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What we want to know is my little girl loves books, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think if I ever wrote a children's book.

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<v Speaker 2>It would blow her little mind when you showed your daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>look at what daddy has done. Can you even believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was? She just blown away by your talent and skill.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh where do I start?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad we've hit on this expectation because well, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>give you a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 3>The backstory first.

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<v Speaker 4>So the backstory is when we were approaching Margo's first birthday,

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<v Speaker 4>and as you know, that first year of parenting, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a whirlwind. It's you know, amazing at times, really hard,

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<v Speaker 4>total adjustment.

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<v Speaker 3>You lose a bit of yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>You gain this thing that you know you never imagine

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<v Speaker 4>was even possible and exceeds all of your expectations of

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<v Speaker 4>love and care. And it is so emotional and so overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm a writer. I've written a book. I like

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<v Speaker 4>to put things into words, and I travel a lot

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<v Speaker 4>with work, so I always do a lot of flights

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<v Speaker 4>to do itbut one hundred and twenty flights a year

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<v Speaker 4>with sunrise, traveling as the weather man who doesn't really

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<v Speaker 4>know much about the weather.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a different podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>So on one of those flights, I thought, Okay, her

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<v Speaker 4>birthday's coming up. What do I want to do. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I started looking through photos of you know, her

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<v Speaker 4>first couple of months up to more recently, that last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of months, close to one year of age, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, oh my god, like, look at all these

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<v Speaker 4>little things that she's a shed, these little milestones that

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<v Speaker 4>we were more excited about than she was. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>help but go, oh my god, Like she's fine with solids,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Like she initiated a hug. Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>like wow, because they sneak up on you and they

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<v Speaker 4>come out of nowhere. They happened yearly, expect them. So

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<v Speaker 4>I started jotting down thoughts and I thought, this is

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<v Speaker 4>its first and last. That's how I described my first year, because,

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<v Speaker 4>like you say, it is emotional when it's for beck

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<v Speaker 4>you know that last time that she was breastfeeding, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>close to one year mark. And it became emotional for

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<v Speaker 4>me as well because I know how how much of

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<v Speaker 4>a bonding moment that is for mum and baby. So

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<v Speaker 4>it was so many emotions, and I just put it

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<v Speaker 4>down and wrote it really within a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I thought, luckily, you know, I have one

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<v Speaker 4>terabyte of storage on my iPhone, so I've essentially got

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<v Speaker 4>video that matches almost every little thing that's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my daughter is really almost living the Truman

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<v Speaker 3>Show moments.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, you've got a second angle on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well done. Back needed the drone up for that one.

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<v Speaker 4>So I put it on a video and really with

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<v Speaker 4>the intention of I love the idea of her looking

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<v Speaker 4>back on this, and I always worry about losing my phone.

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<v Speaker 4>At least if I've put a couple of things on

0:12:45.389 --> 0:12:47.869
<v Speaker 4>the internet. We've got some goods out there that I

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<v Speaker 4>overthink this stuff. But anyway, put it up and literally

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<v Speaker 4>overnight it had over a million views, which was totally

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<v Speaker 4>unexpected to me, mainly on TikTok, but then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of thousands on Facebook overnight, and now I think.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the couple of millions of views.

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<v Speaker 4>So obviously a lot of people connected and resonated and

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<v Speaker 4>really identified with yes, that they are big things in

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<v Speaker 4>your world that first year. And so I was lucky

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be contacted by Penguin reached out to me

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<v Speaker 4>and said we'd love to turn this into a picture book.

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<v Speaker 4>So then the process was finding the right illustrator, tweaking

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<v Speaker 4>the words a little bit to get it to it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost taken a year and Margo's about to turn two,

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<v Speaker 4>and the book is ready to be enjoyed by grandparents

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<v Speaker 4>and little ones and what have you. But in answer

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<v Speaker 4>to your question, it only happened two days ago where

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<v Speaker 4>I finally shared the book with Margo.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like, you know, unwrapping it, and my.

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<v Speaker 4>Expectation was she would go wow, because some of the

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<v Speaker 4>drawings are loosely based on her and me in a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of moments, like I played guitar and there was

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<v Speaker 4>a moment where I had her sitting on the should

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<v Speaker 4>that you see it in the book, and she could

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<v Speaker 4>not have been less interested. Like she was so like

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<v Speaker 4>before I'd even finished the unwrapping part, she was already

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<v Speaker 4>not She was in a different room before it even

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<v Speaker 4>opened the book. And I'm like, look, Daddy wrote this

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<v Speaker 4>about you. Suddenly, while this is this is how we

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<v Speaker 4>felt when you came into the world. The only thing

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<v Speaker 4>that managed to keep her in the room was the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that Penguin, the publisher, the Penguin stickers that Penguin

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<v Speaker 4>had sent through kept her attention for a matter of

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<v Speaker 4>one minute, and that was enough to kind of go

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<v Speaker 4>all right, we got a video of her looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the book.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll yeah like what I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, I guarantee that there will be ten books for

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<v Speaker 2>her to choose from, and yas will always be the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, who does dad thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>So first birthday parties are interesting right because they're turning

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<v Speaker 2>one and it's not like the baby is going to remember. No,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know about your child, but even at

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<v Speaker 2>eight months, my baby can wake up and just be

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<v Speaker 2>shitty for no reason. She's like, today is not my day.

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<v Speaker 2>Today I am clinging, and I don't like anyone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>did you decide to have a first birthday party?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes we did, and yes, like a lot of I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure a lot of parents listened to this, we went

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<v Speaker 4>way over the top. Yes, it was probably more about

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<v Speaker 4>us than the child. Look, we went with a very

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<v Speaker 4>hungry caterpillar theme because that had been her her first year.

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<v Speaker 4>Beck and one of her dear friends, Bella Hamish Blake Style,

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<v Speaker 4>were up to four am making a caterpillar cake. Not

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<v Speaker 4>easy to make, I must point out, So after you know,

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<v Speaker 4>three hours of sleep, they're obviously sprightly and ready to

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<v Speaker 4>rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>On the day of the party.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more a chance for family friends to get together.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, some of our friends into state hadn't even

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<v Speaker 4>met Margo, so it was kind of more about that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't want to get two down or too

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<v Speaker 4>negative about first birthday parties because any opportunity to drink

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<v Speaker 4>in a park at ten am and any repercussions is

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<v Speaker 4>a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>For parents who are battling through parenthood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so true.

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<v Speaker 2>You've just really got your values in the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about getting together. And also mummy and daddy

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<v Speaker 2>want to see their friends. Yeah, and mummy and daddy

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<v Speaker 2>want someone else to hold the baby while how about that, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>mummy and daddy have some champagne and it's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>a present for mummy and daddy on this day, which

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<v Speaker 2>is really more significant past Yeah, I did exactly. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you give us a ten second play by play of

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<v Speaker 2>the chaos of your morning when you're at home, So

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<v Speaker 2>like the last few weeks when you've been at home

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<v Speaker 2>newborn toddler, what do those mornings look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so Margo, we will actually hear on the monitor

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<v Speaker 4>starts get a bit chatty at about a quarter past

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<v Speaker 4>six six.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little early Margo.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that she's almost two, she's you know, got quite

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<v Speaker 4>a few words. So she go Daddy, Mummy, Daddy stuck,

0:16:46.149 --> 0:16:49.909
<v Speaker 4>Margo stuck, Margo start, and then it'll be Margo jumping high,

0:16:50.069 --> 0:16:52.029
<v Speaker 4>Margot jumping high. So we'll just it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>our morning entertainment. We'll watch it on the screen or

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<v Speaker 4>ten minutes and then go, okay, time to go get her.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll bring herpect will feed Mabel.

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<v Speaker 4>We recently got a TV in our room, which is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the greatest investments I've ever had, because Pepper

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<v Speaker 4>Pig Slash Blue Slasher wiggles for twenty minutes, just while

0:17:08.709 --> 0:17:10.029
<v Speaker 4>Margot has an early morning bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Mabel's being fed.

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<v Speaker 4>We kind of it extends your sleep, so it's not

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<v Speaker 4>like the band aid where you're up and straight into

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<v Speaker 4>the day. You've got that little buffer of twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 4>minutes where you kind of ease into it. Then you

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<v Speaker 4>get the showers and the get dressed, get changed, all

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing. So that's really the first half

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<v Speaker 4>an hour, and then it's you know, breakfast. Why does

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<v Speaker 4>it take so long for breakfast? Why does it take

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<v Speaker 4>so long to make breakfast? For as tiny human. Why

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<v Speaker 4>does it take so long to eat it? Why does

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<v Speaker 4>it take so long to clean it up? Like breakfast

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<v Speaker 4>is a two hourd.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow, just he said to me when we started solids.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so, I just I'm so confused. And

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse said, my life became easier when I realized meal

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<v Speaker 2>times for a two hour process.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't eat breakfast, and now breakfast has become a

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<v Speaker 2>real event in my day and so, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>it's insane. You've got to make three different ones in

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<v Speaker 2>case I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I true, And that's that's exactly what Beck does.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of I'm more of the opinion of, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, make one or two things, Max, and like

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<v Speaker 4>that's your breakfast and if not, you have a bigger lie.

0:18:10.469 --> 0:18:13.909
<v Speaker 3>That's fine. Beck will literally put on a digust station.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes for Margo, and she'll be hand fed her peeled

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<v Speaker 4>and cut grapes, and it's just like it's an experience.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's great, she's eating healthy and it's awesome, but

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<v Speaker 4>it is kind of like, wow, we you know, two hours, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost lunch time. Now, now we're going to start prepping lunch, breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never not meal time. That is never, it is

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<v Speaker 1>never not a meal time. That is the thing about.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as they start solids like, oh, bottles were great,

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<v Speaker 2>bottles were real easy. Well, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time today. It was so great to chat to you.

0:18:47.789 --> 0:18:52.349
<v Speaker 2>And everybody should buy suddenly one. Just brace yourself because

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<v Speaker 2>you may cry a little bit ugly cry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I like. The ones that are sentimental for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are ones that Luna loves, but I'm like, no,

0:18:59.349 --> 0:19:01.069
<v Speaker 2>this like, guess how much I love you like the

0:19:01.069 --> 0:19:02.869
<v Speaker 2>ones that you go No, this is making me feel

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<v Speaker 2>reflective and cuddly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you very much, ladies.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the great thing about it is that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kids, I don't know if your little ones

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<v Speaker 4>are already in that stage where they love seeing them

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<v Speaker 4>pictures themselves on the mobile phone and they'll want to

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<v Speaker 4>see more and definitely loves that. So they love hearing

0:19:18.869 --> 0:19:21.269
<v Speaker 4>about themselves, their little megalomanias. You know, I love little

0:19:21.309 --> 0:19:25.749
<v Speaker 4>egocentric twerks anyway, So they love that, so telling their story.

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<v Speaker 3>But this was the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you haven't done this one yet, but soon you'll

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do that at the park or so

0:19:30.189 --> 0:19:32.509
<v Speaker 4>it's little milestones. But also I love the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>grandparents going through it with their little ones or giving

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<v Speaker 4>it to, you know, their children who have just had

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<v Speaker 4>children as her first year of birthday present. I think

0:19:40.829 --> 0:19:43.349
<v Speaker 4>there's lots of ways to kind of families to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>take a little breather, read through the book and go, oh,

0:19:45.349 --> 0:19:46.069
<v Speaker 4>we've achieved a lot.

0:19:46.069 --> 0:19:47.229
<v Speaker 3>We're doing all right in this field.

0:19:47.549 --> 0:19:49.589
<v Speaker 2>It's such a good point about birthday presents, because what

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want is piles of plastic staff. I just

0:19:52.709 --> 0:19:54.749
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's so much clutter. I love a book.

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<v Speaker 2>A book is my number one present because I put

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<v Speaker 2>it on the shelf and like it's also educational.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we can kick that off.

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<v Speaker 2>Matilda hasn't look if she slow to crawl maybe, but

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<v Speaker 2>her one skill that I think she learned early, she

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to turn a page.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she be very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Good at this one. She'd say this is lovely. She

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes doesn't wait long enough for me to read it,

0:20:15.349 --> 0:20:17.029
<v Speaker 2>but that's no. She'll point to the fall one. You

0:20:17.229 --> 0:20:19.229
<v Speaker 2>be like, that's why I've got a booboo on my head. Yeah, yeah,

0:20:20.069 --> 0:20:20.589
<v Speaker 2>I'll be like.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up until I look forward to their.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll jump on good Reads, They'll have something to say

0:20:28.189 --> 0:20:29.029
<v Speaker 2>as I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Thank you really nice to chat guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me on Crab Crap Crap Advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse, it's time for our advice segment. Aham, are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>My sister looks after my seven months old three days

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<v Speaker 2>a week while I go to work, and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>back at work for a couple of months now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so grateful for her help, and I genuinely don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I would do without her. But she doesn't follow

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<v Speaker 2>any instructions about my baby's day. She feeds her whatever

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<v Speaker 2>she's eating, which isn't usually appropriate for a baby, and

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<v Speaker 2>won't put her down for a nap until she starts

0:21:22.829 --> 0:21:26.469
<v Speaker 2>crying and is clearly overtired. She also makes a huge

0:21:26.509 --> 0:21:28.509
<v Speaker 2>mess in my house, and when I get home, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to clean it up and deal with a baby

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<v Speaker 2>who is out of her routine. How do I tell

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<v Speaker 2>her I need her to try more? Just a quick

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<v Speaker 2>question before we get into it. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>the food is it isn't appropriate for a baby? And

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<v Speaker 2>why is the first thing that came to my mind

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<v Speaker 2>o Porto. I was more thinking ogarlo. Okay, thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>a burger. M. I think a burger is not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>KFC isn't fully appropriate. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a CAFC near your place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I have gone to KFC while looking after litit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Look, this is actually a really easy one

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to go full hure because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do. You need to put your sister

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<v Speaker 2>on what we call a PIP.

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<v Speaker 1>A PIP is.

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<v Speaker 2>A performance improvedment player gay and she requires one. So

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<v Speaker 2>put a meeting in a diary. Don't say anything face

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<v Speaker 2>to face, Just put a meeting in a diary via zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if she's in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>You both have to join, yes, and you can be

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<v Speaker 2>with your baby, and you can be with your baby

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<v Speaker 2>and like change your background so it looks like you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a co working spacestairs. It's very much you and

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<v Speaker 2>your baby against her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I think that a complaint has been brought against it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not there. It's the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you talk about a PIP and you say

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<v Speaker 2>we need to work towards some clearer KPIs, you're being

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<v Speaker 2>performance managed because there are some issues with your performance,

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<v Speaker 2>as indicated by my baby. I would also say that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're being pipped, the surveillance really gets up. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think follow her around yelling what am I paying

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<v Speaker 2>you for? And from what I gleaned from this? But

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<v Speaker 2>money is changing hands, so I think you make a

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<v Speaker 2>sign a contract. I think you need an official contract,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like remuneration, nothing but responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are seventeen age.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're really exasperated all the time by your performance,

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<v Speaker 2>and you call it her performance. And then you start,

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<v Speaker 2>as you would in an office, giving bitching about her

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<v Speaker 2>behavior to colleagues. And by colleagues I mean obviously a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>but also like mom, dad, husband, friends. Yeah, start a

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<v Speaker 2>group chat where you just kind of gossip. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>real issues. I've got this employee who're okay, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that your sister?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, Really that.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of surveillance, you've got a good point. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you're on a PIP, that's when they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to keep an eye on this person to

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<v Speaker 2>know whether they're filling their KPIs. And in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance by cameras. You need cameras in every corner. But

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<v Speaker 2>even if you've got cameras in every corner and you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at work watching the cameras, at which point I

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<v Speaker 2>would say maybe you should just be at home. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's say you are just watching my cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>What can you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so you see her and she's not put the

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<v Speaker 2>baby down, or it's like that thing some people have

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<v Speaker 2>for their dog. Also, the baby needs a camera strapped

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<v Speaker 2>to it so that when she takes the baby out,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like from the baby's perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the dog thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where you compress a thing and you're like God,

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<v Speaker 2>and you yell give her her snack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you go put her to.

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<v Speaker 2>Bird, you idiot, like you really you're communicating, and your

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<v Speaker 2>baby's gonna love that. She's where mummy, where's mummy? Where's

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<v Speaker 2>mmy coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think definitely buying cameras. The other thing is

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<v Speaker 2>just your idea of obviously you're on a zoom call,

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<v Speaker 2>you're having that HR meeting. I think baby needs to

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<v Speaker 2>give some feedback. I think you're like, look, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>as the both the complaints come to me yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want complaints because then I have to act

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But I do want an open line of

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<v Speaker 2>communication in this work Yeah, where people feel they can

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<v Speaker 2>come to me. And so I'll give the floor to baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the complaint that was Because it depends on

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<v Speaker 2>the policy. In some workplaces, you wouldn't show the complaint

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<v Speaker 2>directly to the person that it's been made about. But

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<v Speaker 2>in this case, I think it's relevant. And so Baby says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your baby would say My baby would say ga yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you say, oh, oh she didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like ga dad dah yeah, dadda interesting mathilda, interesting insight.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is just you know, if we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to make this about the workplace as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got a pet, the pet joins, you give

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<v Speaker 2>them a mic.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you seen? Oh wow, wow, it's a full intervention.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it is. But you also need written warnings.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, quite publicly like a white Here's the issue

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<v Speaker 2>with the written warnings. You get to three and you

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<v Speaker 2>think still need it. It's time to go. The business

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<v Speaker 2>can't a forge to keep her on. You're not paying her,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a backup plan, No, so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the tricky thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a tricky thing. It doesn't mean don't give warnings.

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<v Speaker 2>It just means probably have a plan for what you

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<v Speaker 2>do when you've delivered seventeen of them and she's still

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<v Speaker 2>not changing. Your sister holds a power, unfortunately, unfortunately. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think the camera and you're just giving

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<v Speaker 2>live feedback, Yeah, is a great thing for your workplace.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope you enjoyed not just this episode of The

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<v Speaker 2>Baby Bubble, but this season and didn't in this entire

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<v Speaker 2>season of this podcast find anything that could pass as.

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<v Speaker 2>of our wonderful guests who have made this season of

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<v Speaker 2>The Baby Bubble so ridiculously fun. We've touched on everything

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<v Speaker 2>from traveling with babies to solo dadding, and even the

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<v Speaker 2>existential crises of the very hungry caterpillar Claire.

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