1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,824 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 4 00:00:26,864 --> 00:00:30,064 Speaker 2: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 5 00:00:30,064 --> 00:00:32,384 Speaker 2: Brednick and I'm the orange couch with me today. If like, 6 00:00:32,464 --> 00:00:33,864 Speaker 2: just do a drum roll or something that. 7 00:00:33,984 --> 00:00:36,624 Speaker 1: The DUT's me, I'm back. It's Kelly McCarroll. 8 00:00:36,384 --> 00:00:39,344 Speaker 2: Looking like you're going to Antarctica. It's a very cold. 9 00:00:39,664 --> 00:00:43,024 Speaker 2: It's just not it's just not. It is. It is brisk. 10 00:00:43,264 --> 00:00:46,184 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got thick socks on and a nice trench. 11 00:00:46,424 --> 00:00:48,744 Speaker 2: I know Kelly walked in here with this sexy long 12 00:00:48,784 --> 00:00:50,184 Speaker 2: trench on. I thought she was going to do a 13 00:00:50,224 --> 00:00:51,064 Speaker 2: bit of a reveal. 14 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:56,144 Speaker 1: I have like a sad. 15 00:00:57,344 --> 00:00:59,944 Speaker 2: Oh. We'll just picture that, guys as we're doing today's episode. 16 00:00:59,984 --> 00:01:02,064 Speaker 2: So coming up on the show today, we have to 17 00:01:02,064 --> 00:01:04,024 Speaker 2: close the loop out on the Snow White story. It 18 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:08,464 Speaker 2: has become one of the most controversial movie releases in history. 19 00:01:08,504 --> 00:01:12,064 Speaker 2: And that's not even me being dramatic. People's family members 20 00:01:12,104 --> 00:01:14,704 Speaker 2: have got involved other movies who've just been stopped dead 21 00:01:14,704 --> 00:01:16,384 Speaker 2: in their tracks. We're going to get into that because 22 00:01:16,424 --> 00:01:20,224 Speaker 2: it is just all encompassing situation. Plus, I don't know 23 00:01:20,224 --> 00:01:22,624 Speaker 2: if anyone knows this, but the White Letters finale was 24 00:01:22,704 --> 00:01:25,384 Speaker 2: last night, was very under the radar, no one talked 25 00:01:25,424 --> 00:01:27,384 Speaker 2: about it. So we're going to get into that because 26 00:01:27,424 --> 00:01:29,384 Speaker 2: we have I think, some very different thoughts, some very 27 00:01:29,424 --> 00:01:31,144 Speaker 2: extreme thoughts. So that's gonna be right at the end. 28 00:01:31,144 --> 00:01:33,064 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a few little spoilers. That's well, we're 29 00:01:33,064 --> 00:01:34,624 Speaker 2: doing it right at the end, guy, So you can 30 00:01:34,664 --> 00:01:35,984 Speaker 2: listen to the first two segments. 31 00:01:36,064 --> 00:01:38,744 Speaker 1: Don't get cranky in the exactly those spoilers. 32 00:01:38,824 --> 00:01:40,864 Speaker 3: No, no, it'll be at and we will once again 33 00:01:40,944 --> 00:01:43,224 Speaker 3: tell you right before to turn off now exactly. 34 00:01:43,264 --> 00:01:45,184 Speaker 2: So if you haven't watched the finale, go watch it 35 00:01:45,224 --> 00:01:46,864 Speaker 2: now and then come back. Obviously, still listen to our 36 00:01:46,904 --> 00:01:48,624 Speaker 2: chat because it's going to be amazing. But it's at 37 00:01:48,664 --> 00:01:49,864 Speaker 2: the end. Spoiler alert. 38 00:01:50,304 --> 00:01:54,504 Speaker 3: But first, Laura had quite an interesting reaction with a 39 00:01:54,624 --> 00:01:56,904 Speaker 3: special little Lossie heartthrobb last night. 40 00:01:57,064 --> 00:01:59,264 Speaker 2: Please explain what on earth happens? Yes, I have a 41 00:01:59,304 --> 00:02:02,624 Speaker 2: new enemy. His name is Jacob Alordie. He joins my 42 00:02:02,704 --> 00:02:05,104 Speaker 2: long list of celebrity enemies who don't know why I exist. 43 00:02:05,584 --> 00:02:07,224 Speaker 1: Oh no, what happened. 44 00:02:07,424 --> 00:02:09,304 Speaker 2: Well, so I was going to the premiere of his 45 00:02:09,504 --> 00:02:11,864 Speaker 2: new TV show, The Narrow Road to the Deep North, 46 00:02:11,904 --> 00:02:14,864 Speaker 2: which is coming out next week on Prime Video. And look, 47 00:02:14,984 --> 00:02:16,704 Speaker 2: some of this is my fault because I was running 48 00:02:16,704 --> 00:02:19,664 Speaker 2: a bit late. I'm a busy gowlock. I mean, I 49 00:02:19,824 --> 00:02:22,304 Speaker 2: was working. Here's the thing. When you see the pictures 50 00:02:22,344 --> 00:02:24,744 Speaker 2: from all of these premieres, you see all like the 51 00:02:24,824 --> 00:02:28,504 Speaker 2: proper celebrities and the influencers, and they're kind of gliding 52 00:02:28,544 --> 00:02:29,744 Speaker 2: down these red carpets on. 53 00:02:29,664 --> 00:02:33,704 Speaker 3: The very entire day was in premna. I go to 54 00:02:33,784 --> 00:02:37,184 Speaker 3: these events, not actually work, and then go to the eight. 55 00:02:37,304 --> 00:02:39,904 Speaker 2: Hundred percent and like, people had ball gowns on last 56 00:02:40,784 --> 00:02:43,864 Speaker 2: Even Jacob Alordi even complimented someone on their ballgown as 57 00:02:43,904 --> 00:02:45,384 Speaker 2: he walked out, Like I think he was like, holy shit, 58 00:02:45,424 --> 00:02:47,584 Speaker 2: people are really dressed up for this. I on their 59 00:02:47,744 --> 00:02:51,464 Speaker 2: looks and not rutually. Yeah, he was looking kind of chill. 60 00:02:51,624 --> 00:02:54,304 Speaker 2: He's a dramatic actor. Whereas I'm rushing to these things, 61 00:02:54,344 --> 00:02:57,184 Speaker 2: I'm usually running out of work. I've got like my laptop, 62 00:02:57,224 --> 00:02:58,984 Speaker 2: of my bags. I need to work when I get home, 63 00:02:59,224 --> 00:03:01,144 Speaker 2: so no pretty bags. I'm like wearing a flat wa 64 00:03:01,304 --> 00:03:03,344 Speaker 2: have a low heel on. Last night, I'm like in 65 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:04,824 Speaker 2: the car on the way there, in the back of 66 00:03:04,824 --> 00:03:06,864 Speaker 2: an uber franchy going through my bag. I don't have 67 00:03:06,904 --> 00:03:09,224 Speaker 2: any makeup to fix my face. Last night, I got 68 00:03:09,224 --> 00:03:10,944 Speaker 2: like the end of you know, like the of a lipstick, 69 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:12,424 Speaker 2: like the little nubby Donna throw out. I put that 70 00:03:12,504 --> 00:03:14,184 Speaker 2: on my lips and on my cheeks, trying to like 71 00:03:14,504 --> 00:03:15,864 Speaker 2: and then I was like blotting it with the back 72 00:03:15,864 --> 00:03:17,424 Speaker 2: of my hand. I looked really hot. Is what I'm 73 00:03:17,424 --> 00:03:18,064 Speaker 2: trying to say. 74 00:03:18,584 --> 00:03:22,024 Speaker 3: You really did that is basically you beauty hack right there? 75 00:03:22,064 --> 00:03:24,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So that I'm running to this event and 76 00:03:24,384 --> 00:03:26,384 Speaker 2: I get to the end of the red carpet and 77 00:03:26,424 --> 00:03:28,184 Speaker 2: I showed them my pass. I'm like, okay, I've made it. 78 00:03:28,184 --> 00:03:29,744 Speaker 2: I'm going to make it inside in time. And then 79 00:03:29,784 --> 00:03:32,624 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this big meati security guard like 80 00:03:32,744 --> 00:03:35,384 Speaker 2: lashes his arm out in front of me and he's like, man, 81 00:03:35,464 --> 00:03:36,984 Speaker 2: you have to stay there, and I'm like what, I'm like, 82 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:38,304 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I am I about to be arrested, Like 83 00:03:38,304 --> 00:03:39,904 Speaker 2: what's happening. I'm like, so, I know I'm late, but 84 00:03:39,944 --> 00:03:42,784 Speaker 2: this seems like an extreme reaction, and it was. It 85 00:03:42,864 --> 00:03:44,664 Speaker 2: just don't let me in there. Yeah. I was like, 86 00:03:44,704 --> 00:03:46,184 Speaker 2: I just want to see the show, it's my job. 87 00:03:46,464 --> 00:03:48,784 Speaker 2: And then this car pulls up right next to me, 88 00:03:48,824 --> 00:03:51,024 Speaker 2: so it's droven through the entertainment corterage, come to the 89 00:03:51,104 --> 00:03:54,144 Speaker 2: end of the red carpet and the door opens, and 90 00:03:54,184 --> 00:03:56,584 Speaker 2: when I tell you, the screams because there was this 91 00:03:56,664 --> 00:03:59,424 Speaker 2: big red carpet leading up to the event that either 92 00:03:59,504 --> 00:04:04,144 Speaker 2: side packed with fans, mostly young women. The deafening screams 93 00:04:04,304 --> 00:04:06,544 Speaker 2: more like a squeal. It was, Yeah, it broke the 94 00:04:06,584 --> 00:04:08,384 Speaker 2: sound barrier. I still I don't have hearing in this 95 00:04:08,464 --> 00:04:12,304 Speaker 2: ear anymore. It's gone forever. And then Jacob Elati excellent 96 00:04:12,344 --> 00:04:15,864 Speaker 2: links out of the car head down. He looks terrified, 97 00:04:15,904 --> 00:04:17,584 Speaker 2: and to be fair, in that moment, he should have 98 00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:19,664 Speaker 2: looked terrified like everyone would be. 99 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:22,944 Speaker 1: He hasn't been famous for long enough at that level. 100 00:04:23,304 --> 00:04:25,344 Speaker 1: Yeah know how to cope with Yeah. 101 00:04:25,504 --> 00:04:27,184 Speaker 2: Also, he's been such a big staff for so long, 102 00:04:27,224 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 2: and he's had so many projects. But I feel like 103 00:04:28,944 --> 00:04:31,144 Speaker 2: Euphoria hasn't had like a big red carpet for a while. 104 00:04:31,584 --> 00:04:33,304 Speaker 2: I know he goes to award shows and stuff, but 105 00:04:33,704 --> 00:04:35,744 Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't expecting it. I don't know. It was crazy. 106 00:04:36,024 --> 00:04:38,104 Speaker 2: And then I had to slink down the red carpet 107 00:04:38,104 --> 00:04:40,224 Speaker 2: behind him with a security guard like hold me back 108 00:04:40,264 --> 00:04:42,544 Speaker 2: so I couldn't go inside. And I know, this sounds 109 00:04:42,544 --> 00:04:44,624 Speaker 2: like a DC looks like you were part of the Andrea. 110 00:04:44,784 --> 00:04:46,664 Speaker 2: I looked like I was stalking him down the red 111 00:04:46,704 --> 00:04:48,864 Speaker 2: carpet and I'm like, sir, I cannot like, I'm sure 112 00:04:48,864 --> 00:04:50,824 Speaker 2: he's lovely. I've actually have an interviewed him. I don't know, 113 00:04:50,984 --> 00:04:52,344 Speaker 2: but I was like, I just want to get inside 114 00:04:52,344 --> 00:04:54,824 Speaker 2: and like get a wine, two wines before I go 115 00:04:54,864 --> 00:04:56,704 Speaker 2: into the screen and get my seat. Get off my feet, 116 00:04:56,744 --> 00:04:58,424 Speaker 2: That's all I want from this night. Get off my 117 00:04:58,464 --> 00:05:01,704 Speaker 2: low heel. Yeah, exactly, my low heel. And I had 118 00:05:01,744 --> 00:05:04,704 Speaker 2: to like wait and then be like escorted around Jacob LORDI. So, 119 00:05:04,744 --> 00:05:06,224 Speaker 2: I'm sure if you see any of the photos from 120 00:05:06,304 --> 00:05:08,504 Speaker 2: last night, I put a creeping in the background. I'm 121 00:05:08,504 --> 00:05:10,864 Speaker 2: creeping in the background, and all the pictures of me 122 00:05:10,904 --> 00:05:13,504 Speaker 2: in the background of him, I look so angry. I'm 123 00:05:13,544 --> 00:05:15,544 Speaker 2: like glaring in the background because I'm like, I just 124 00:05:15,624 --> 00:05:17,864 Speaker 2: want to get past this man, and I'm having to 125 00:05:17,864 --> 00:05:20,144 Speaker 2: be like corral by the security who I think, even 126 00:05:20,184 --> 00:05:22,504 Speaker 2: though I was invited thought I was a crazy fan 127 00:05:22,544 --> 00:05:24,224 Speaker 2: and I was trying to get at him. Were you 128 00:05:24,264 --> 00:05:25,944 Speaker 2: wearing a landed yes or no? No? 129 00:05:26,144 --> 00:05:27,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's where you went wrong. 130 00:05:27,904 --> 00:05:30,824 Speaker 2: You're a lanyard. They weren't lanyards, they were little black 131 00:05:30,904 --> 00:05:33,824 Speaker 2: ribbons and it was very dark. So I'm just saying 132 00:05:33,864 --> 00:05:36,464 Speaker 2: I did look like a stalker at one stage. That's 133 00:05:36,504 --> 00:05:36,944 Speaker 2: too easy. 134 00:05:37,024 --> 00:05:38,624 Speaker 1: Imagine if you just had a ribbon in your hair 135 00:05:38,624 --> 00:05:39,864 Speaker 1: then you put around your wrist. 136 00:05:39,904 --> 00:05:44,144 Speaker 2: I know exactly, and the security guy were pushing people back. 137 00:05:44,624 --> 00:05:46,704 Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is, I've had some near death 138 00:05:46,744 --> 00:05:48,144 Speaker 2: experiences at that very. 139 00:05:47,984 --> 00:05:51,424 Speaker 1: Vague This is where Laura loves stout aling no mayo. 140 00:05:51,904 --> 00:05:54,464 Speaker 2: No, I'm no, I'm not. And I remember the time 141 00:05:54,504 --> 00:05:57,944 Speaker 2: I nearly died. It was at the thor Ragnarok premiere. 142 00:05:57,984 --> 00:06:00,984 Speaker 2: So it was Chris Hemsworth and Mark Ruffalo were on 143 00:06:01,024 --> 00:06:03,024 Speaker 2: the red car but along with some other Marvel stars. 144 00:06:03,024 --> 00:06:06,344 Speaker 2: Were you. I'm behind them? Not no, not on purpose. 145 00:06:06,744 --> 00:06:08,384 Speaker 2: So again I'm making my way down the road car 146 00:06:08,464 --> 00:06:11,104 Speaker 2: but and there's these massive, big barriers on each side, 147 00:06:11,464 --> 00:06:13,864 Speaker 2: and they're like people are heaving against them because this 148 00:06:13,904 --> 00:06:15,704 Speaker 2: is ten times bigger than last night. This is a 149 00:06:15,784 --> 00:06:17,984 Speaker 2: level premiere like you can't even see the end of 150 00:06:17,984 --> 00:06:20,504 Speaker 2: the crowd, and people are pushing against the barriers. And 151 00:06:20,584 --> 00:06:22,624 Speaker 2: then I felt someone kind of push up against me 152 00:06:22,664 --> 00:06:24,344 Speaker 2: because it was really on the red carpet, like it 153 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:26,424 Speaker 2: was very intense and people taking photos and I'm trying 154 00:06:26,424 --> 00:06:28,024 Speaker 2: to talk to people and stuff, and I could feel 155 00:06:28,064 --> 00:06:30,024 Speaker 2: this man like pushing against my like we're back to 156 00:06:30,064 --> 00:06:32,104 Speaker 2: back for ages, and I was like, oh my god, 157 00:06:32,144 --> 00:06:33,864 Speaker 2: like can this guy move and get out of my space? 158 00:06:34,224 --> 00:06:36,624 Speaker 2: And I turned around and it's Chris Hem's word because 159 00:06:36,624 --> 00:06:40,384 Speaker 2: he's being pushed back. I know we had our backs 160 00:06:40,424 --> 00:06:42,304 Speaker 2: together for a long time, but we're the same height, 161 00:06:42,384 --> 00:06:44,384 Speaker 2: so maybe maybe thought I was another guy I don't 162 00:06:44,424 --> 00:06:49,984 Speaker 2: know who was the short king, and that just is 163 00:06:50,104 --> 00:06:52,464 Speaker 2: you know exactly. I was like, we're just literally eye level. 164 00:06:52,784 --> 00:06:54,864 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, people recognize that Chris 165 00:06:54,864 --> 00:06:57,384 Speaker 2: Hems was there because his security guard's like the ocean's 166 00:06:57,424 --> 00:07:01,344 Speaker 2: parted and the barriers started breaking down. I could hear 167 00:07:01,384 --> 00:07:03,664 Speaker 2: them creaking, and they're having to like physically push people 168 00:07:03,704 --> 00:07:05,664 Speaker 2: back because they had broken over the barriers and they 169 00:07:05,664 --> 00:07:07,264 Speaker 2: were trying to get in, and they would have one 170 00:07:07,304 --> 00:07:11,624 Speaker 2: hundred percent and my name would even made the headlines. 171 00:07:11,824 --> 00:07:16,144 Speaker 3: I mean, if local entertainment reporter was trampled to death, 172 00:07:16,264 --> 00:07:17,064 Speaker 3: I think it would have. 173 00:07:17,424 --> 00:07:20,064 Speaker 2: They would have been like tall podcast women trampled to death, 174 00:07:20,144 --> 00:07:23,944 Speaker 2: Chris Hemsworth, crims ems Worth. Yeah, No, he wouldn't. He 175 00:07:23,984 --> 00:07:25,424 Speaker 2: would have let me die. He would have let me 176 00:07:25,464 --> 00:07:27,024 Speaker 2: die for sure, and I wouldn't have blamed him because 177 00:07:27,024 --> 00:07:29,184 Speaker 2: it was really intense. And years later he would have 178 00:07:29,264 --> 00:07:30,904 Speaker 2: done a big tell all and they would have forgotten 179 00:07:30,904 --> 00:07:32,824 Speaker 2: I'd died. Anyways, because I spent a lot of time 180 00:07:32,824 --> 00:07:34,984 Speaker 2: staying behind Jacob Laudie as he went down the carpet. 181 00:07:35,184 --> 00:07:37,304 Speaker 2: I was watching how he interacted with fans, and it 182 00:07:37,384 --> 00:07:40,384 Speaker 2: was quite it was he terrified of them, No, he 183 00:07:40,464 --> 00:07:43,224 Speaker 2: actually seemed quite fine. He was kind of being nice 184 00:07:43,264 --> 00:07:44,944 Speaker 2: to them, which I don't know why. I'm shocked by that. 185 00:07:46,304 --> 00:07:49,504 Speaker 2: The people that made him famous. No, but so many 186 00:07:49,504 --> 00:07:52,224 Speaker 2: people don't stop. Like I've spent so much time, you know, 187 00:07:52,304 --> 00:07:54,504 Speaker 2: walking on those red carpets along with these people, and 188 00:07:54,544 --> 00:07:56,384 Speaker 2: just seeing these fans who have lined her for hours 189 00:07:56,384 --> 00:07:59,304 Speaker 2: and hours an hours scream the name of their favorite actor. 190 00:07:59,344 --> 00:08:01,144 Speaker 2: And it's not always their faults. Sometimes they can't stop. 191 00:08:01,464 --> 00:08:03,464 Speaker 2: But I saw him and again I was standing behind 192 00:08:03,504 --> 00:08:05,424 Speaker 2: him because I wasn't allowed to move, and I did 193 00:08:05,464 --> 00:08:08,824 Speaker 2: tweeting videos, which I know it looked so embarrassing, but 194 00:08:08,824 --> 00:08:10,864 Speaker 2: I just wanted to prove to people that this man 195 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:12,904 Speaker 2: had the e work me from going into. 196 00:08:12,864 --> 00:08:16,144 Speaker 3: And weren't adding the mayo that you actually were stuck 197 00:08:16,184 --> 00:08:16,504 Speaker 3: behind you. 198 00:08:16,624 --> 00:08:18,024 Speaker 2: I was stuck behind him. So I watched him. He 199 00:08:18,064 --> 00:08:19,944 Speaker 2: went over to these girls who are like losing their minds, 200 00:08:19,944 --> 00:08:21,304 Speaker 2: which I get, like, it's nothing. 201 00:08:21,464 --> 00:08:22,464 Speaker 1: Who it's weird. 202 00:08:22,784 --> 00:08:26,064 Speaker 2: No, But they're like teens. I think maybe meeting adults 203 00:08:26,184 --> 00:08:26,704 Speaker 2: it's weird. 204 00:08:26,824 --> 00:08:29,464 Speaker 3: Yeah, not me meeting Tam and Sirsock when I was 205 00:08:29,504 --> 00:08:31,064 Speaker 3: thirteen and bursting into tears. 206 00:08:31,104 --> 00:08:33,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the level of thing. And so I watched 207 00:08:33,224 --> 00:08:35,024 Speaker 2: him walk over to these girls and they giving him 208 00:08:35,024 --> 00:08:36,824 Speaker 2: a pen, which I thought was very cute and old school, 209 00:08:36,824 --> 00:08:40,184 Speaker 2: to sign some stuff and he rests. I think it 210 00:08:40,224 --> 00:08:41,864 Speaker 2: was a book or so, I don't know what it was. 211 00:08:42,544 --> 00:08:44,384 Speaker 2: Maybe it was the book that's wiped me. I'm like, 212 00:08:44,384 --> 00:08:45,224 Speaker 2: they're so weird. 213 00:08:45,264 --> 00:08:47,424 Speaker 3: Then you see me on the news like just flashing 214 00:08:47,424 --> 00:08:49,264 Speaker 3: my tits trying to get someone to sorry. 215 00:08:49,464 --> 00:08:50,784 Speaker 2: Next time I'll go to a recup. You have to 216 00:08:50,784 --> 00:08:53,464 Speaker 2: come and do that I probably would. And he took 217 00:08:53,504 --> 00:08:56,424 Speaker 2: the pen out of this young girl's hand, pulled the 218 00:08:56,064 --> 00:08:59,424 Speaker 2: lid off in his mouth, held the pen lid in 219 00:08:59,544 --> 00:09:02,584 Speaker 2: his mouth. But she's never washing that, yeah, and signed 220 00:09:02,584 --> 00:09:05,184 Speaker 2: everything and then took photos with the pen lid still 221 00:09:05,224 --> 00:09:06,744 Speaker 2: behind his teeth, and then he kind of put it 222 00:09:06,784 --> 00:09:08,104 Speaker 2: back on the pen and gave it back to her. 223 00:09:08,344 --> 00:09:11,424 Speaker 2: That's the video. And then he went along the line 224 00:09:11,544 --> 00:09:11,944 Speaker 2: doing that. 225 00:09:12,144 --> 00:09:14,704 Speaker 1: Ah, So how you really stuck behind him? 226 00:09:14,784 --> 00:09:16,184 Speaker 2: I really was. Finally they let me and I was 227 00:09:16,224 --> 00:09:17,944 Speaker 2: able to like rush past him, and I went straight 228 00:09:17,944 --> 00:09:22,024 Speaker 2: inside and had down two glasses, went straight to that's 229 00:09:22,024 --> 00:09:22,904 Speaker 2: where you can always find me. 230 00:09:22,904 --> 00:09:25,784 Speaker 1: Out to the popcorn. Laura goes straight to the wine. 231 00:09:25,824 --> 00:09:30,584 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do without popcorn. And then when he 232 00:09:30,624 --> 00:09:32,504 Speaker 2: got inside, I don't know if he's just shy or 233 00:09:32,544 --> 00:09:35,304 Speaker 2: he's very like difficult and sullen. He did a lot 234 00:09:35,304 --> 00:09:37,184 Speaker 2: of press. I'll give him that, but he, you know, 235 00:09:37,264 --> 00:09:39,144 Speaker 2: had his head down the whole time, and I'm. 236 00:09:38,984 --> 00:09:40,904 Speaker 1: Going to give him the benefit of the downstairs shy. 237 00:09:41,184 --> 00:09:42,904 Speaker 2: Let's go with that. And also I would just love 238 00:09:42,944 --> 00:09:44,584 Speaker 2: to think that he's shy, and so like once you 239 00:09:44,624 --> 00:09:46,744 Speaker 2: find out a celebrity is like difficult and awful, which 240 00:09:46,784 --> 00:09:49,424 Speaker 2: in my experience a lot of them are. It does 241 00:09:49,544 --> 00:09:51,984 Speaker 2: ruin things like you want to magic fantasy. And then 242 00:09:52,024 --> 00:09:54,344 Speaker 2: we went into the theater sat down. I was like 243 00:09:54,344 --> 00:09:55,784 Speaker 2: wheeling in the front row. I don't know. I was 244 00:09:55,784 --> 00:09:57,104 Speaker 2: like it felt like I was in the war TV 245 00:09:57,144 --> 00:09:58,864 Speaker 2: show we were watching. And then he came in with 246 00:09:58,904 --> 00:10:02,984 Speaker 2: like his head down, like slinking in. He's wearing like 247 00:10:03,024 --> 00:10:05,144 Speaker 2: almost like a tracksuit, whereas like the girls had like 248 00:10:05,224 --> 00:10:06,944 Speaker 2: gowns on and things, and like the girls were in 249 00:10:07,024 --> 00:10:07,584 Speaker 2: the show with him. 250 00:10:07,664 --> 00:10:10,224 Speaker 3: Alia to stop. He's like, why did my publicist not 251 00:10:10,384 --> 00:10:12,664 Speaker 3: pass on the memo? Yeah that this was quite maybe 252 00:10:12,704 --> 00:10:12,944 Speaker 3: he was. 253 00:10:12,944 --> 00:10:15,184 Speaker 2: Meant to be. He's also chewing gum, which he must have. 254 00:10:15,464 --> 00:10:17,104 Speaker 2: We don't want bad breath, but he didn't have it 255 00:10:17,144 --> 00:10:19,224 Speaker 2: all down the red carpet, so he must have popped gum. 256 00:10:19,264 --> 00:10:22,344 Speaker 2: It's because the publiss said, bro your breath stinks. He 257 00:10:22,504 --> 00:10:24,864 Speaker 2: is setting up in front of the audience in a 258 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:28,624 Speaker 2: massive theater, hundreds of seeds, like it's like Adrian Brody 259 00:10:28,704 --> 00:10:30,424 Speaker 2: throwing out his gum as he gets on stage to 260 00:10:30,424 --> 00:10:33,144 Speaker 2: get an oscar, like rethink the gum, you know what 261 00:10:33,224 --> 00:10:35,304 Speaker 2: I mean? Like he came off very well last night 262 00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:37,784 Speaker 2: overall people were losing their minds. They loved him, like 263 00:10:37,824 --> 00:10:39,384 Speaker 2: he came in with the gum. Maybe they just thought 264 00:10:39,424 --> 00:10:41,024 Speaker 2: it made him look very kind of suave. 265 00:10:41,544 --> 00:10:43,864 Speaker 1: Was he also a short king compared to you or. 266 00:10:44,104 --> 00:10:45,824 Speaker 2: Jacob A LORDI No, he's a lot taller than me. 267 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:48,144 Speaker 2: I never looked up to anyone. I was so shocked, 268 00:10:48,504 --> 00:10:50,984 Speaker 2: and I haven't as previously established. I was wearing a 269 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:53,544 Speaker 2: low heel and I'm already very tall, and he was 270 00:10:53,584 --> 00:10:54,504 Speaker 2: still taller than me. 271 00:10:54,584 --> 00:10:56,264 Speaker 1: But she's the same heart as Chris Hams. 272 00:10:56,504 --> 00:10:59,504 Speaker 2: Yeah, which means Jacob Elordi is taller than both, the 273 00:10:59,544 --> 00:11:01,704 Speaker 2: opposite of a short I love. That's my takeaway from this. 274 00:11:01,904 --> 00:11:04,384 Speaker 2: So yeah, he was very nervous giving answers. It's so 275 00:11:04,424 --> 00:11:07,064 Speaker 2: funny when you see like an old school movie style, 276 00:11:07,064 --> 00:11:09,584 Speaker 2: Like I remember going to the premiere of Elvis and 277 00:11:09,664 --> 00:11:11,704 Speaker 2: Tom Hanks came out and he ran out onto the 278 00:11:11,744 --> 00:11:13,264 Speaker 2: stage and he was getting the audience to a. 279 00:11:13,184 --> 00:11:16,224 Speaker 1: Scene charisma, and yeah, he was like he was stage present. 280 00:11:16,304 --> 00:11:18,224 Speaker 2: The whole audience was like on their feet for this man. 281 00:11:18,304 --> 00:11:20,744 Speaker 2: And then Austin Butler like SLINKs out with his head down. 282 00:11:20,784 --> 00:11:24,464 Speaker 2: He's like yeah, pretty much. And I got that from 283 00:11:24,584 --> 00:11:26,744 Speaker 2: Jacob e Lordie. This next crop of stars are very 284 00:11:26,824 --> 00:11:31,024 Speaker 2: like head down, don't speak. I'm an actor, but I'm 285 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:33,344 Speaker 2: an all yeah. But then people love them for it, 286 00:11:33,424 --> 00:11:34,824 Speaker 2: so I don't know. So that was my night. So 287 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:37,264 Speaker 2: Jacob of Lordie and I we started out as enemies, 288 00:11:37,544 --> 00:11:39,544 Speaker 2: we got back on track. We became friends once I 289 00:11:39,584 --> 00:11:41,384 Speaker 2: got inside, and then I really liked the show. And 290 00:11:41,424 --> 00:11:42,184 Speaker 2: he doesn't know I. 291 00:11:42,064 --> 00:11:45,824 Speaker 3: Exist, and he's like, he just knows you as the 292 00:11:45,944 --> 00:11:48,064 Speaker 3: strange woman that scuttled behind him. 293 00:11:48,144 --> 00:11:49,704 Speaker 2: I actually haven't gone and looked at any of the 294 00:11:49,744 --> 00:11:50,384 Speaker 2: premiere photos. 295 00:11:51,184 --> 00:11:54,624 Speaker 3: I really hope that you that you end up in memes, 296 00:11:54,664 --> 00:11:54,984 Speaker 3: you know how. 297 00:11:55,104 --> 00:11:57,664 Speaker 2: Yeah got the oscars. That water bottle girl, that's me. 298 00:11:57,784 --> 00:12:00,864 Speaker 2: You are the water bottle girl, angry faced girl in the background. 299 00:12:00,864 --> 00:12:02,824 Speaker 2: And with the show The Narrow Rode to the Deep North, 300 00:12:02,824 --> 00:12:04,504 Speaker 2: it's out on Prime video next week. We will do 301 00:12:04,584 --> 00:12:06,464 Speaker 2: an actual like I will do my actual job and 302 00:12:06,504 --> 00:12:08,424 Speaker 2: do a proper review on the show next week when 303 00:12:08,424 --> 00:12:10,624 Speaker 2: it comes out, because it is great. But that was 304 00:12:10,624 --> 00:12:11,864 Speaker 2: a little recap of last night. 305 00:12:12,024 --> 00:12:12,424 Speaker 1: Loved that. 306 00:12:14,504 --> 00:12:17,104 Speaker 2: So a few weeks ago we talked about the new 307 00:12:17,264 --> 00:12:20,744 Speaker 2: live adaptation of Disney Snow White. When it came into theaters, 308 00:12:20,984 --> 00:12:24,064 Speaker 2: we did a whole episode on all the drama around it, 309 00:12:24,104 --> 00:12:26,744 Speaker 2: and also a review because unlike many people, I actually 310 00:12:26,784 --> 00:12:29,384 Speaker 2: saw the movie before I shared my thoughts, oh my gosh, 311 00:12:29,424 --> 00:12:31,624 Speaker 2: fancy that. Well not many people did no ve that 312 00:12:31,664 --> 00:12:33,224 Speaker 2: in the show notes, so you can go back into it. 313 00:12:33,264 --> 00:12:36,664 Speaker 2: But basically Disney Snow White was as all of their 314 00:12:36,664 --> 00:12:40,024 Speaker 2: other live action Disney adaptations have been really premed to, 315 00:12:40,144 --> 00:12:43,624 Speaker 2: like take over the box office, huge fanfare around it. 316 00:12:43,824 --> 00:12:46,024 Speaker 2: They never do the falling in love they do to 317 00:12:46,024 --> 00:12:48,424 Speaker 2: an extent, and also like move faster. The last one 318 00:12:48,464 --> 00:12:50,744 Speaker 2: they made did really well, made a lot of money. 319 00:12:50,944 --> 00:12:52,944 Speaker 2: The Little Mermaid did quite well, beuting the Beasts like 320 00:12:53,024 --> 00:12:54,624 Speaker 2: knocked it out of the park. That's why they keep 321 00:12:54,624 --> 00:12:56,704 Speaker 2: making them, is like one they have to hold onto 322 00:12:56,704 --> 00:12:59,544 Speaker 2: their IP so you have to keep using the properties 323 00:12:59,584 --> 00:13:01,944 Speaker 2: otherwise you can lose them. And then the other reason 324 00:13:02,064 --> 00:13:03,864 Speaker 2: is that like it's you know, a title that has 325 00:13:03,864 --> 00:13:06,624 Speaker 2: this name recognition with the people who are most nostalgic, 326 00:13:06,664 --> 00:13:09,864 Speaker 2: elder millennials who drag themselves all their children along to 327 00:13:09,904 --> 00:13:12,104 Speaker 2: see them movie that made them cry in their childhood. 328 00:13:12,424 --> 00:13:14,864 Speaker 2: So it's actually a good money making scheme, but things 329 00:13:14,864 --> 00:13:17,544 Speaker 2: really fell apart for snow White, which we went through. 330 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:18,624 Speaker 2: And how much are you across this? 331 00:13:19,104 --> 00:13:23,344 Speaker 1: I know absolutely nothing, okay, the law of snow White. 332 00:13:23,304 --> 00:13:26,744 Speaker 3: Or like obviously, I just know the story, the original story. Yeah, okay, 333 00:13:26,744 --> 00:13:29,944 Speaker 3: well even Apple, there's some dwarves. Yeah, wait no, no, 334 00:13:29,944 --> 00:13:32,224 Speaker 3: we are allowed to did. 335 00:13:32,144 --> 00:13:34,264 Speaker 1: You just love like watching my face go through that? 336 00:13:34,304 --> 00:13:37,824 Speaker 2: Wait? Wait? Wait five, I'm allowed to see. Actually, that's 337 00:13:37,864 --> 00:13:39,584 Speaker 2: interesting because that was a big thing. So when it 338 00:13:39,584 --> 00:13:41,704 Speaker 2: came out, like there's a bit of backlash over Rachel 339 00:13:41,784 --> 00:13:44,864 Speaker 2: Zegler being cast as snow white because she's of Latina descent. 340 00:13:45,184 --> 00:13:47,744 Speaker 2: People like her skin's not white. There's a few parts 341 00:13:47,784 --> 00:13:49,984 Speaker 2: of this movie. I don't think I should speak on 342 00:13:50,064 --> 00:13:52,064 Speaker 2: that when I feel very confident speaking on being like 343 00:13:52,384 --> 00:13:54,224 Speaker 2: it's fine to cast her like. She was one of 344 00:13:54,264 --> 00:13:55,584 Speaker 2: the best parts of the movie, to be honest, she 345 00:13:55,664 --> 00:13:57,144 Speaker 2: was great, and I think the color of her skin 346 00:13:57,184 --> 00:13:59,664 Speaker 2: shouldn't mean that she can't have a particular role. 347 00:13:59,744 --> 00:14:03,504 Speaker 3: Yeah, how many people in history have been cast it 348 00:14:03,504 --> 00:14:06,064 Speaker 3: didn't look like what the book or the original book 349 00:14:06,384 --> 00:14:07,944 Speaker 3: description said that they did. 350 00:14:07,824 --> 00:14:11,144 Speaker 2: Exactly, and they explain in a live action adaptation why 351 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,864 Speaker 2: her skin is that you know, they actually say, like, 352 00:14:12,864 --> 00:14:14,264 Speaker 2: it's nothing to do with color of her skin. It's 353 00:14:14,304 --> 00:14:16,184 Speaker 2: that she was born in a snowstorm and it gave 354 00:14:16,224 --> 00:14:18,864 Speaker 2: her like this extra strength to overcome things. So that's fine. 355 00:14:18,904 --> 00:14:21,264 Speaker 2: And then it came out that they were going to 356 00:14:21,384 --> 00:14:23,904 Speaker 2: not use actors with dwarf ism and so they were 357 00:14:23,904 --> 00:14:25,984 Speaker 2: going to see gi them and so a lot of actors, well, 358 00:14:26,024 --> 00:14:27,904 Speaker 2: first of all, some actors were upset that they were 359 00:14:27,944 --> 00:14:30,824 Speaker 2: even making snow White in general, because the idea of 360 00:14:30,984 --> 00:14:33,504 Speaker 2: using dwarf actors could also be seen as damaging. When 361 00:14:33,504 --> 00:14:35,264 Speaker 2: then actors were also upset that they're like, hey, this 362 00:14:35,304 --> 00:14:36,984 Speaker 2: is the role we could have played of an industry 363 00:14:37,024 --> 00:14:39,304 Speaker 2: that shuts us out and instead of giving us the 364 00:14:39,384 --> 00:14:43,344 Speaker 2: leads in this big action Disney movie, your cgiing characters 365 00:14:43,384 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 2: and we've lost work. So that all happened. And then 366 00:14:45,944 --> 00:14:48,304 Speaker 2: Rachel Zegler gave a few interviews. Well, she gave many 367 00:14:48,344 --> 00:14:50,264 Speaker 2: good interviews. I don't mean to be like a complete 368 00:14:50,344 --> 00:14:52,384 Speaker 2: Rachel Zeglar apologist, but I just think that people have 369 00:14:52,464 --> 00:14:56,064 Speaker 2: run away with this story. She gave mostly very positive interviews, 370 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:58,464 Speaker 2: but one very viral interview where she talked about the 371 00:14:58,504 --> 00:15:00,984 Speaker 2: fact that the original is quite damaging, and that the 372 00:15:01,024 --> 00:15:04,104 Speaker 2: Prince stalks her and she said, weird, weird, We're not 373 00:15:04,144 --> 00:15:06,504 Speaker 2: going to do that, and people hated her for that. 374 00:15:06,584 --> 00:15:08,504 Speaker 2: She got so many death threats and people like, oh, 375 00:15:08,544 --> 00:15:10,784 Speaker 2: boycott the because she's the original st he was a 376 00:15:10,784 --> 00:15:11,224 Speaker 2: bit strang. 377 00:15:12,024 --> 00:15:14,504 Speaker 1: Oh, for goodness sake, people have too much time exactly. 378 00:15:14,584 --> 00:15:17,064 Speaker 2: It's quite intense. And then a lot of rumors came out, 379 00:15:17,064 --> 00:15:19,424 Speaker 2: which they've kind of improven, that she and Galagadote, who 380 00:15:19,424 --> 00:15:22,504 Speaker 2: plays the evil Queen, both didn't get along on set. 381 00:15:22,904 --> 00:15:25,624 Speaker 2: And then also Rachel Zegler has posted a lot of 382 00:15:25,624 --> 00:15:29,264 Speaker 2: in support of Palestine, and then galagherdot is of Israeli 383 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:32,104 Speaker 2: descent and also served in the Raeli military for two 384 00:15:32,224 --> 00:15:35,304 Speaker 2: years and spoke Hebrew at her Hollywood Walk of Fame, 385 00:15:35,344 --> 00:15:37,784 Speaker 2: and there was all these protesters, and so there was 386 00:15:37,824 --> 00:15:39,704 Speaker 2: a lot of back and forth over whether that had 387 00:15:39,704 --> 00:15:41,504 Speaker 2: had any issue with it when Rachel. 388 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:44,384 Speaker 1: Zeven two women don't actually like to work with each 389 00:15:44,384 --> 00:15:45,024 Speaker 1: other that much. 390 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,744 Speaker 2: Well exactly, and like they never really spoke about it. 391 00:15:47,784 --> 00:15:49,544 Speaker 2: They posed on the Red carpet together. But the thing 392 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:51,144 Speaker 2: is a movie like this, you normally do like so 393 00:15:51,224 --> 00:15:53,144 Speaker 2: much joint Yeah, press you do all this stuff together. 394 00:15:53,184 --> 00:15:55,024 Speaker 2: They didn't do anything like that. In fact, Disney cut 395 00:15:55,064 --> 00:15:57,704 Speaker 2: all the press and kept it very kind of in house, 396 00:15:58,184 --> 00:16:01,264 Speaker 2: just like Rachel Zegler singing in front of a castle. Basically, 397 00:16:01,304 --> 00:16:03,744 Speaker 2: that was it. And then Rachel Zegler posted a whole 398 00:16:03,784 --> 00:16:05,864 Speaker 2: bunch of photos on his Instagram, is like a tribute 399 00:16:05,904 --> 00:16:07,504 Speaker 2: to the movie and the friends she made along the 400 00:16:07,504 --> 00:16:09,224 Speaker 2: way and all this sort of stuff. And there were 401 00:16:09,264 --> 00:16:11,904 Speaker 2: so many angry comments. It's like, you left Galgadote out, 402 00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:14,184 Speaker 2: How dare you do that? All this sort of stuff. 403 00:16:14,224 --> 00:16:16,584 Speaker 2: And then Rachel actually replied to one of the comments 404 00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:18,544 Speaker 2: before she had to turn them off because people were 405 00:16:18,544 --> 00:16:21,384 Speaker 2: just getting so intense and nasty, which is not really 406 00:16:21,384 --> 00:16:23,664 Speaker 2: the best excuse, but what she said was that Gal 407 00:16:23,744 --> 00:16:26,224 Speaker 2: Gadot wasn't actually on set very long because she had 408 00:16:26,224 --> 00:16:28,544 Speaker 2: to go and film another movie. So I don't know 409 00:16:28,624 --> 00:16:28,984 Speaker 2: about that. 410 00:16:29,144 --> 00:16:32,744 Speaker 3: But I also just once again, who cares. Yeah, well, 411 00:16:32,744 --> 00:16:34,624 Speaker 3: if you don't get along that well with people that 412 00:16:34,704 --> 00:16:38,224 Speaker 3: you work with. Laura and I famously, between us, we're 413 00:16:38,224 --> 00:16:40,744 Speaker 3: not friends. When we walked together for the first because 414 00:16:40,744 --> 00:16:42,544 Speaker 3: we were both terrified of each other. 415 00:16:43,544 --> 00:16:44,304 Speaker 2: Transpired. 416 00:16:44,464 --> 00:16:47,304 Speaker 1: I don't transpired, I don't know how. 417 00:16:47,224 --> 00:16:49,304 Speaker 2: Long this one and my point of view, this didn't 418 00:16:49,304 --> 00:16:51,184 Speaker 2: go on that long bit. The first time Kelly and 419 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:53,344 Speaker 2: I like really met, we got into the lift of 420 00:16:53,384 --> 00:16:57,144 Speaker 2: the together. Do you remember this. I was like, it's Laura. 421 00:16:57,344 --> 00:16:59,744 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought that too. So we got 422 00:16:59,784 --> 00:17:01,864 Speaker 2: in the lift together at the old building and I 423 00:17:01,864 --> 00:17:03,304 Speaker 2: looked at you and I'm like, oh my god, it's 424 00:17:03,384 --> 00:17:04,064 Speaker 2: Kelly mccarery. 425 00:17:04,104 --> 00:17:05,664 Speaker 1: And I looked at her and went, oh my goodness, 426 00:17:05,664 --> 00:17:06,624 Speaker 1: that's Laura Brodney cos. 427 00:17:06,624 --> 00:17:09,064 Speaker 2: And neither of us said anything. So for months months 428 00:17:09,464 --> 00:17:11,544 Speaker 2: we thought the other one didn't like each other. 429 00:17:11,424 --> 00:17:13,704 Speaker 3: But we were simply both two in alle, which is 430 00:17:13,744 --> 00:17:14,464 Speaker 3: actually really love. 431 00:17:14,544 --> 00:17:16,664 Speaker 2: It's actually really cute of us. I don't care what's 432 00:17:16,664 --> 00:17:17,224 Speaker 2: happening here. 433 00:17:17,424 --> 00:17:20,504 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, but like you don't have to like 434 00:17:20,624 --> 00:17:21,984 Speaker 3: everyone that you work with. 435 00:17:22,104 --> 00:17:22,704 Speaker 2: It's okay. 436 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:25,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's these thirteen year olds. This is why thirteen 437 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,384 Speaker 3: year old should not have social media. They're jumping on, 438 00:17:27,424 --> 00:17:30,144 Speaker 3: they're commenting nonsense. Then they're turning up and trampling Laura 439 00:17:30,184 --> 00:17:31,304 Speaker 3: Brodnick at the red carpet. 440 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:33,464 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. But also they kind of say there's a 441 00:17:33,504 --> 00:17:35,504 Speaker 2: lot of old white men who have also played a 442 00:17:35,584 --> 00:17:37,744 Speaker 2: huge part of Yes, they're the ones who are running 443 00:17:37,744 --> 00:17:39,104 Speaker 2: the op airs. They're the ones who are doing the 444 00:17:39,104 --> 00:17:42,744 Speaker 2: big news bulletins on those different channels where they just 445 00:17:42,904 --> 00:17:45,344 Speaker 2: rag on women and stuff. They're the ones who are 446 00:17:45,344 --> 00:17:47,744 Speaker 2: going like, go work, go broke. That's how Disney lost 447 00:17:47,744 --> 00:17:49,304 Speaker 2: its money, all this sort of stuff, because it did 448 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:51,864 Speaker 2: perform really badly at the box office, and one of 449 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:54,624 Speaker 2: the big trending things is people buying like one ticket 450 00:17:54,624 --> 00:17:57,224 Speaker 2: to go into snow White, walking into like film the 451 00:17:57,264 --> 00:18:00,304 Speaker 2: empty theaters and stuff. So it's become a huge thing. 452 00:18:00,424 --> 00:18:02,664 Speaker 2: To the point. Now, now this is unverified, but this 453 00:18:02,704 --> 00:18:04,624 Speaker 2: is the big story that's going around, and it was 454 00:18:04,664 --> 00:18:07,024 Speaker 2: reported by a variety who's like one of the biggest 455 00:18:07,064 --> 00:18:10,584 Speaker 2: Hollywood trade publications, and so they're a publication or if 456 00:18:10,584 --> 00:18:12,584 Speaker 2: they say, like sources say, it's like they're talking to 457 00:18:12,584 --> 00:18:14,064 Speaker 2: the head of a studio. They're talking into like a 458 00:18:14,064 --> 00:18:16,784 Speaker 2: page six kind of thing. So they have said that 459 00:18:16,824 --> 00:18:20,504 Speaker 2: Disney has decided to put the live action version of Tangled, 460 00:18:20,904 --> 00:18:23,624 Speaker 2: one of my favorite Disney movies. You've seen Tangled? Oh 461 00:18:23,824 --> 00:18:25,784 Speaker 2: my god, Okay, obviously, Zachary Levi. 462 00:18:25,744 --> 00:18:28,904 Speaker 1: Yes again, I disappoint Oh so good. 463 00:18:28,744 --> 00:18:31,144 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Lenny will love this. Just give him 464 00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:33,264 Speaker 2: like a year or so. Okay, No, it's great, so 465 00:18:33,304 --> 00:18:34,944 Speaker 2: you'll love it. Don't even worry about children. I just 466 00:18:34,984 --> 00:18:37,384 Speaker 2: watch the Bummers. I went with adults to see this movie. 467 00:18:37,504 --> 00:18:38,144 Speaker 2: Why are you. 468 00:18:38,104 --> 00:18:41,144 Speaker 3: Luke who goes to see Disney movies by himself sometimes 469 00:18:41,184 --> 00:18:44,024 Speaker 3: and I'll go, I'm like, oh, sweetheart, I think that 470 00:18:44,064 --> 00:18:46,504 Speaker 3: it's a little bit worrying that you are a middle 471 00:18:46,504 --> 00:18:49,384 Speaker 3: aged man going to the cinema by yourself to see movies. 472 00:18:49,424 --> 00:18:52,104 Speaker 2: There are children there. Why do you think that looks okay, 473 00:18:52,144 --> 00:18:54,384 Speaker 2: that does look creepy. This is where you just have 474 00:18:54,424 --> 00:18:57,424 Speaker 2: to go with him. I think that's how be saying this. 475 00:18:57,424 --> 00:19:00,584 Speaker 1: Is any Surely that's why I you. 476 00:19:00,584 --> 00:19:01,944 Speaker 2: That's why you have a child, right, so you can 477 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:03,704 Speaker 2: take them to stuff. No, but these movies have like 478 00:19:03,744 --> 00:19:07,424 Speaker 2: incredible composers and things. Anyway, So Tangled was about to 479 00:19:07,504 --> 00:19:09,944 Speaker 2: be made. It was an active development, which means like 480 00:19:09,984 --> 00:19:12,664 Speaker 2: all the wheels were turning, script was happening. They had 481 00:19:12,664 --> 00:19:14,864 Speaker 2: the same director from the Greatest Showman who was going 482 00:19:14,944 --> 00:19:18,264 Speaker 2: to direct, The person who wrote thaor Love and Thunder 483 00:19:18,304 --> 00:19:20,184 Speaker 2: had written the script like it was all up to 484 00:19:20,224 --> 00:19:23,064 Speaker 2: be this huge thing, and that apparently snow White has 485 00:19:23,104 --> 00:19:26,344 Speaker 2: been so disastrous that they've had to put that on 486 00:19:26,424 --> 00:19:28,544 Speaker 2: Iyce Lelo and Stitch is still coming out because that's 487 00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:31,784 Speaker 2: like being filmed. But it has put like all of 488 00:19:31,784 --> 00:19:34,264 Speaker 2: these live action movies in jeopardy. I think they'll still 489 00:19:34,304 --> 00:19:36,784 Speaker 2: make them. And then one other little tidbit is that 490 00:19:37,104 --> 00:19:41,104 Speaker 2: the producer of snow White's son has gotten involved. Do 491 00:19:41,144 --> 00:19:44,144 Speaker 2: you know who Ben Platt is? Okay, he's an incredible 492 00:19:44,144 --> 00:19:46,384 Speaker 2: Broadway star Dear Evan Hans, and he's also a TV 493 00:19:46,424 --> 00:19:49,424 Speaker 2: and movie star. His father, well, he was like in 494 00:19:49,464 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 2: the film adaptation of Dear Evan Hans, and he's also 495 00:19:52,464 --> 00:19:56,304 Speaker 2: in Ryan Murphy's a politician, but he's obviously Ben Platt 496 00:19:56,424 --> 00:19:59,144 Speaker 2: voice of an Angel. So his family are all in 497 00:19:59,144 --> 00:20:02,704 Speaker 2: the business. And his father, Mark Platt, is one of 498 00:20:02,744 --> 00:20:05,264 Speaker 2: the produced members from My Life. Oh listen to his voice, 499 00:20:05,304 --> 00:20:08,264 Speaker 2: You'll be carried to Heaven. So his father, Mark Platt 500 00:20:08,304 --> 00:20:10,584 Speaker 2: is one of the producers of snow White, and his son, 501 00:20:10,624 --> 00:20:13,784 Speaker 2: Jonah Platt, is a podcast host. So Jonah's dad is 502 00:20:13,784 --> 00:20:15,744 Speaker 2: the producer of snow White. He's keeping all the puzzle 503 00:20:15,784 --> 00:20:19,224 Speaker 2: pieces in. Someone comment on his Instagram post about how 504 00:20:19,224 --> 00:20:21,704 Speaker 2: badly the movie had done, and he said, you really 505 00:20:21,784 --> 00:20:24,544 Speaker 2: want to do this and then he said, yeah, My dad, 506 00:20:24,584 --> 00:20:27,624 Speaker 2: the producer of enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds 507 00:20:27,624 --> 00:20:29,664 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave 508 00:20:29,704 --> 00:20:32,464 Speaker 2: his family and fly across the country to reprimand his 509 00:20:32,584 --> 00:20:36,344 Speaker 2: twenty year old employee, Rachel Zegler, for dragging her personal 510 00:20:36,384 --> 00:20:38,864 Speaker 2: politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which 511 00:20:38,944 --> 00:20:42,064 Speaker 2: she signed a multimillion dollar contract to get paid and 512 00:20:42,104 --> 00:20:46,344 Speaker 2: do publicity for. So he came out and confirmed the 513 00:20:46,464 --> 00:20:50,064 Speaker 2: rumor because while production was going on, Rachel Zegler would 514 00:20:50,064 --> 00:20:52,184 Speaker 2: like tweet out free Palestine, and she was really passionate 515 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,704 Speaker 2: about that, and she's like very actively involved in speaking 516 00:20:55,784 --> 00:20:57,744 Speaker 2: up about things she believes in, and. 517 00:20:57,704 --> 00:20:59,784 Speaker 1: So why would they not be allowed to do that? 518 00:20:59,824 --> 00:21:02,304 Speaker 2: Though, oh, well, just because you know, there's a lot 519 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,384 Speaker 2: of discourse in that area, and like people are on 520 00:21:04,424 --> 00:21:06,664 Speaker 2: different sides and it's a whole situation, and like she 521 00:21:06,864 --> 00:21:08,864 Speaker 2: is allowed, she should be allowed to she should be 522 00:21:08,904 --> 00:21:10,984 Speaker 2: allowed to do that. You're right, So, but this kind 523 00:21:10,984 --> 00:21:13,064 Speaker 2: of uproar and then people also thought she was taking 524 00:21:13,104 --> 00:21:15,504 Speaker 2: a stab at Gallicadot, even though obviously the situation is 525 00:21:15,584 --> 00:21:17,904 Speaker 2: much bigger than these two bigga two women in Hollywood, 526 00:21:18,304 --> 00:21:20,424 Speaker 2: and so there was always a rumor that a Disney 527 00:21:20,464 --> 00:21:22,864 Speaker 2: executive had flown to her home and asked her to 528 00:21:22,864 --> 00:21:25,344 Speaker 2: take it down, and she said no, and that started everything. 529 00:21:25,504 --> 00:21:27,584 Speaker 2: And then his son pretty much just because he's deleted 530 00:21:27,584 --> 00:21:30,784 Speaker 2: it now but obviously not before everyone screenshot it, screenshot it. 531 00:21:30,824 --> 00:21:32,784 Speaker 2: So now Rachel Zegler has just taken the fall for 532 00:21:32,864 --> 00:21:36,184 Speaker 2: this whole situation. It's very sad that is. So said 533 00:21:36,224 --> 00:21:39,624 Speaker 2: she's twenty You said, yeah, she's twenty one. Now, well, 534 00:21:39,664 --> 00:21:41,064 Speaker 2: the thing is like just to kind of finish this. 535 00:21:41,104 --> 00:21:42,464 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, these are all people 536 00:21:42,584 --> 00:21:45,584 Speaker 2: dealing in like multi billion dollar movie industry, So I 537 00:21:45,624 --> 00:21:48,144 Speaker 2: don't feel that sort of sad for them, Like obviously 538 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:49,784 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people worse off, but I just 539 00:21:49,784 --> 00:21:51,704 Speaker 2: think it's interesting how this whole thing has happened. So 540 00:21:51,744 --> 00:21:53,824 Speaker 2: many people are involved, and at the end of the day, 541 00:21:53,864 --> 00:21:55,584 Speaker 2: as we kind of close out this Snow White chapter, 542 00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:58,184 Speaker 2: all the hate has fallen on Rachel Zegler. 543 00:22:01,184 --> 00:22:03,304 Speaker 1: Okay, just to heads up, we are about to have 544 00:22:03,304 --> 00:22:06,464 Speaker 1: a very quick little debrief on the White Lotos finale 545 00:22:06,504 --> 00:22:09,704 Speaker 1: that aired yesterday. So a reminder if you are yet 546 00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:10,264 Speaker 1: to watch it. 547 00:22:10,664 --> 00:22:13,304 Speaker 3: Please bow out of the episode now because there will 548 00:22:13,304 --> 00:22:15,784 Speaker 3: be some spoilers. You can come back later once you've 549 00:22:15,864 --> 00:22:18,624 Speaker 3: watched the episode. The full deep dive into White Loadus 550 00:22:18,664 --> 00:22:21,424 Speaker 3: season three will be on Friday. But Laura, what did 551 00:22:21,464 --> 00:22:23,144 Speaker 3: you think of the finale? 552 00:22:23,544 --> 00:22:26,304 Speaker 2: I didn't find it as unsatisfying as some people did. 553 00:22:26,464 --> 00:22:28,424 Speaker 2: I know some people were just like there's so many 554 00:22:28,424 --> 00:22:31,304 Speaker 2: plot holes, there's this and that. But I think of 555 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:33,224 Speaker 2: like what Mike White, who's the creator of the show, 556 00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:36,184 Speaker 2: has said coming into this that it was meant to 557 00:22:36,224 --> 00:22:38,824 Speaker 2: be a slow burn. Basically, he said, like I like 558 00:22:38,864 --> 00:22:40,704 Speaker 2: to edge people, and if you're in my bed, I'm 559 00:22:40,704 --> 00:22:42,544 Speaker 2: gonna edge you. And if you don't want to be here, 560 00:22:42,544 --> 00:22:45,024 Speaker 2: then get the hell out. What's edging mean? It means 561 00:22:45,024 --> 00:22:47,344 Speaker 2: like kind of like bringing someone almost to climax but 562 00:22:47,424 --> 00:22:50,744 Speaker 2: not actually getting there. That's awful. In Like, he's like, 563 00:22:50,784 --> 00:22:53,144 Speaker 2: it's like the teasing build up. That's what he's here for. 564 00:22:53,224 --> 00:22:54,504 Speaker 2: He's not here for like the payoff. 565 00:22:55,064 --> 00:22:58,304 Speaker 3: Oh so okay, So the point is to leave the 566 00:22:58,304 --> 00:23:00,624 Speaker 3: finale Lea feeling very unsatisfied, well not. 567 00:23:00,624 --> 00:23:02,704 Speaker 2: Unsatisfied, but he's like, it's about the build up and 568 00:23:02,744 --> 00:23:04,904 Speaker 2: the journey not for this like big kind of payoff 569 00:23:04,904 --> 00:23:06,024 Speaker 2: at the end, like you have to do a bit 570 00:23:06,064 --> 00:23:07,064 Speaker 2: of the payoff yourself. 571 00:23:07,464 --> 00:23:11,704 Speaker 3: Yes, and I understand that, but I still feel that 572 00:23:11,784 --> 00:23:15,544 Speaker 3: the Internet are partially I don't know their reactions have 573 00:23:15,664 --> 00:23:18,024 Speaker 3: been mixed, but I would definitely say it more on 574 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:20,024 Speaker 3: the side. 575 00:23:20,104 --> 00:23:22,584 Speaker 2: Because you were kind of almost in and out this season. Also, 576 00:23:22,624 --> 00:23:24,744 Speaker 2: you hadn't watched last season, so there was a lot 577 00:23:24,784 --> 00:23:25,504 Speaker 2: of build up for this. 578 00:23:26,144 --> 00:23:27,624 Speaker 1: I think that people have a point. 579 00:23:27,664 --> 00:23:29,984 Speaker 3: I think there are way too many unresolved plot holes 580 00:23:30,024 --> 00:23:33,184 Speaker 3: and that it was pretty anticlimactic towards the end. I 581 00:23:33,344 --> 00:23:36,664 Speaker 3: personally found there are just way too many plot holes, 582 00:23:37,424 --> 00:23:40,984 Speaker 3: particularly with Victoria. And you were saying earlier this morning 583 00:23:41,024 --> 00:23:44,104 Speaker 3: that apparently they had to cut the final episode down. 584 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,184 Speaker 2: Yes, very much, they should have. Yeah, I almost I 585 00:23:48,224 --> 00:23:49,624 Speaker 2: was saying that to someone today. I was like, I 586 00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:51,344 Speaker 2: almost think that we maybe should have just had a 587 00:23:51,344 --> 00:23:53,304 Speaker 2: two and a half hour finale. People to have watched it. 588 00:23:53,624 --> 00:23:56,624 Speaker 2: It broke so many The finale broke so many streaming 589 00:23:56,664 --> 00:24:00,304 Speaker 2: records for Max and HBO. It's you know, shattered last 590 00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:02,824 Speaker 2: year's record, so people would tune in. But I also 591 00:24:02,904 --> 00:24:04,984 Speaker 2: understand Mike White, you know, like the whole idea of 592 00:24:05,024 --> 00:24:06,424 Speaker 2: being a creator is like, you know, the whole thing. 593 00:24:06,424 --> 00:24:07,944 Speaker 2: You've got to kill your darlings, You've got to kill 594 00:24:07,944 --> 00:24:10,504 Speaker 2: off the bits that you love, and so like what 595 00:24:10,664 --> 00:24:11,384 Speaker 2: was filmed to. 596 00:24:11,384 --> 00:24:16,304 Speaker 3: Be so smart with so many different points and so 597 00:24:16,384 --> 00:24:19,384 Speaker 3: the use of music and the use of signs and simples, 598 00:24:19,864 --> 00:24:21,904 Speaker 3: then to have so many plot holes just seems quite 599 00:24:21,984 --> 00:24:22,624 Speaker 3: lazy to me. 600 00:24:22,824 --> 00:24:24,664 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it did feel a little disjointed, and I 601 00:24:24,664 --> 00:24:26,384 Speaker 2: would love to see the editor's cut. I don't think 602 00:24:26,384 --> 00:24:28,824 Speaker 2: anything in that finale of like who Died or anything 603 00:24:28,904 --> 00:24:29,224 Speaker 2: like that. 604 00:24:29,424 --> 00:24:31,624 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not that. It was more like the Yeah, the. 605 00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:34,704 Speaker 2: Character build up of so like, Piper was meant to 606 00:24:34,744 --> 00:24:36,744 Speaker 2: lose her virginity in the last episode. That was meant 607 00:24:36,784 --> 00:24:38,424 Speaker 2: to be this whole thing that she came back from 608 00:24:38,424 --> 00:24:39,144 Speaker 2: the monastery. 609 00:24:39,224 --> 00:24:41,104 Speaker 1: Oh thank god they left that out because it probably 610 00:24:41,144 --> 00:24:42,064 Speaker 1: would have been with the brother. 611 00:24:43,144 --> 00:24:45,144 Speaker 2: Well it was, no, it wasn't the brother. It was 612 00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:48,384 Speaker 2: going to be with Zion Blinda's so she is like 613 00:24:48,464 --> 00:24:51,304 Speaker 2: she comes back with this very change mentality, and she 614 00:24:51,424 --> 00:24:54,104 Speaker 2: was meant to go into like the dining room season on. 615 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:56,184 Speaker 2: They have like a meet cute, then they have sex, 616 00:24:56,184 --> 00:24:58,584 Speaker 2: and that's why she's wearing different outfits and acting differently 617 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,144 Speaker 2: later on, and so it feels a bit abrupt from 618 00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:03,184 Speaker 2: a viewpoint of view, like, oh, she's a whole different person. 619 00:25:03,264 --> 00:25:05,304 Speaker 1: No, I actually thought that that made sense fun. 620 00:25:05,384 --> 00:25:07,064 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so there's little bits like that. There was 621 00:25:07,064 --> 00:25:09,344 Speaker 2: meant to be more in the friendship group. I love that. 622 00:25:09,784 --> 00:25:12,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I loved because this is another thing 623 00:25:12,224 --> 00:25:14,664 Speaker 3: we were speaking about this morning. But like Laura and 624 00:25:14,704 --> 00:25:17,264 Speaker 3: I the entire season both actually thought that it was 625 00:25:17,264 --> 00:25:20,704 Speaker 3: a very accurate representation of female and everyone that was 626 00:25:20,744 --> 00:25:23,544 Speaker 3: going like, oh, it's so toxic, they're awful. 627 00:25:23,784 --> 00:25:26,864 Speaker 1: I was like, my female friendshipships really tough. 628 00:25:26,744 --> 00:25:29,664 Speaker 2: Because this is really accurate. I have been thinking that 629 00:25:29,784 --> 00:25:31,664 Speaker 2: I am a monster the last couple of weeks because 630 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:34,024 Speaker 2: all I'm hearing is like, these women toxic as hell, 631 00:25:34,304 --> 00:25:35,424 Speaker 2: not a time of people. 632 00:25:35,464 --> 00:25:37,704 Speaker 1: Well, they are in some ways just silent women. 633 00:25:37,784 --> 00:25:39,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sitting quite in the corner and being like, 634 00:25:39,344 --> 00:25:41,824 Speaker 2: I don't think they're that bad. No, I think they're actually. 635 00:25:41,624 --> 00:25:44,384 Speaker 3: Quite Literally said to my girlfriends a couple of weeks 636 00:25:44,384 --> 00:25:46,904 Speaker 3: ago dinner, I go because we're talking about how normal 637 00:25:46,944 --> 00:25:48,944 Speaker 3: gossiping is, and. 638 00:25:49,024 --> 00:25:51,664 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll give you guys, enough amos. Sometimes 639 00:25:51,944 --> 00:25:53,744 Speaker 1: just let me know if I'm ever being too boring. 640 00:25:53,904 --> 00:25:55,144 Speaker 2: I think this is something I was saying with my 641 00:25:55,224 --> 00:25:57,184 Speaker 2: close friends the other day, is like, sometimes we can 642 00:25:57,224 --> 00:25:59,544 Speaker 2: point things out to each other, Like I'll say to 643 00:25:59,584 --> 00:26:01,264 Speaker 2: a friend like, oh, this friend did this and this 644 00:26:01,344 --> 00:26:02,944 Speaker 2: and that, But I wouldn't say that to anyone outside 645 00:26:02,944 --> 00:26:05,504 Speaker 2: of our circle because in our circle we're all even 646 00:26:05,544 --> 00:26:07,424 Speaker 2: we know each other. But it's also the things that 647 00:26:07,464 --> 00:26:09,144 Speaker 2: you would say to that person. You would say, but 648 00:26:09,184 --> 00:26:12,384 Speaker 2: you can't defame someone who's in your circle because you 649 00:26:12,424 --> 00:26:14,184 Speaker 2: all know each other, whereas I would be telling you 650 00:26:14,384 --> 00:26:16,144 Speaker 2: one of my friends that you don't know, you're only 651 00:26:16,184 --> 00:26:17,904 Speaker 2: getting my side of the story. Do you know what 652 00:26:17,944 --> 00:26:21,384 Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, exactly. The rules are intricate, guys. 653 00:26:21,384 --> 00:26:24,064 Speaker 3: The rules of female friendships are very like that's an 654 00:26:24,184 --> 00:26:27,384 Speaker 3: entire episode within itself. I thought that that whole storyline, 655 00:26:27,384 --> 00:26:28,904 Speaker 3: in the way that they tied it up. I'm really 656 00:26:28,944 --> 00:26:31,184 Speaker 3: glad that that's how he tied it up, and he 657 00:26:31,224 --> 00:26:33,504 Speaker 3: didn't tied up with like them falling out or anything. 658 00:26:33,184 --> 00:26:37,464 Speaker 2: Because I just thought it was so perfectly accurate. Yeah, well, 659 00:26:37,464 --> 00:26:39,744 Speaker 2: everyone thought like this wasn't just a wild fan theory. 660 00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:41,904 Speaker 2: It was a real theory. Everyone thought that their three 661 00:26:41,944 --> 00:26:43,504 Speaker 2: women were going to have a shootout at the end, 662 00:26:43,584 --> 00:26:45,624 Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen. And I was like, that 663 00:26:45,664 --> 00:26:47,864 Speaker 2: would have just been wildly out of character. 664 00:26:47,544 --> 00:26:49,704 Speaker 3: While they out of character and just way too dramatic. 665 00:26:49,784 --> 00:26:53,224 Speaker 3: We're not that dramatic. We have fights, we push each other. 666 00:26:53,104 --> 00:26:55,544 Speaker 2: In the pool. That's probably the most dramatic. Yea, exactly, 667 00:26:55,624 --> 00:26:57,904 Speaker 2: And I thought, like, stupid bitch that And I thought 668 00:26:57,944 --> 00:26:59,904 Speaker 2: coming together at like the end of a girl's trip 669 00:26:59,944 --> 00:27:02,024 Speaker 2: when you've had fights but also had good times and 670 00:27:02,024 --> 00:27:04,464 Speaker 2: then you come back together and everything's fine, Like Mike 671 00:27:04,504 --> 00:27:06,944 Speaker 2: White weirdly gets female friendship, like so. 672 00:27:07,064 --> 00:27:10,024 Speaker 3: Well, he gets female friendships more than people on TikTok 673 00:27:10,624 --> 00:27:13,104 Speaker 3: don't have that place to female friendships get female friendships. 674 00:27:13,104 --> 00:27:15,944 Speaker 3: Because that was so accurate that you could be screaming 675 00:27:15,944 --> 00:27:17,744 Speaker 3: down each other's throat, but then at the end of 676 00:27:17,784 --> 00:27:19,824 Speaker 3: the day, like I adore you more than anyone, and 677 00:27:19,864 --> 00:27:20,904 Speaker 3: I'll always be here for you. 678 00:27:21,144 --> 00:27:23,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, and your history, like having a long history with 679 00:27:23,544 --> 00:27:26,824 Speaker 2: someone will override any kind of bad behavior exactly, just 680 00:27:26,864 --> 00:27:28,784 Speaker 2: maybe not good or bad, but it's realistic. What else 681 00:27:28,784 --> 00:27:29,544 Speaker 2: did you like or not. 682 00:27:29,624 --> 00:27:32,304 Speaker 3: Like Okay, So I found the whole I'm your father twist. 683 00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:35,224 Speaker 3: It was just so obvious and really lazy. I found 684 00:27:35,304 --> 00:27:37,824 Speaker 3: I just like, you know, look at my father. It's 685 00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:40,104 Speaker 3: a tale as old at time. It's boring, seriously, Like, 686 00:27:40,144 --> 00:27:42,144 Speaker 3: I just feel like that could have just been done 687 00:27:42,144 --> 00:27:42,784 Speaker 3: so differently. 688 00:27:43,224 --> 00:27:46,064 Speaker 1: And why did that weedy little predator come back to life? 689 00:27:46,424 --> 00:27:50,064 Speaker 2: No? Yeah, so Lachlan the youngest son who made his 690 00:27:50,304 --> 00:27:53,024 Speaker 2: drink in the dirty blender. Have you seen those articles 691 00:27:53,024 --> 00:27:55,624 Speaker 2: and memes at Shade being like, sorry, if you use 692 00:27:55,664 --> 00:27:58,424 Speaker 2: a dirty blender off the counter, that's you to die. 693 00:27:58,464 --> 00:28:00,464 Speaker 2: But probably that's a discussed You could have just died 694 00:28:00,504 --> 00:28:01,224 Speaker 2: from bacteria. 695 00:28:01,384 --> 00:28:04,344 Speaker 1: Literally E col I can kill it even if there. 696 00:28:04,264 --> 00:28:06,864 Speaker 2: Wasn't a poisonous fruit in there. Yeah, I know that. 697 00:28:06,984 --> 00:28:10,184 Speaker 2: People like, I'm so glad Lachland and died. No little 698 00:28:10,704 --> 00:28:13,184 Speaker 2: he has the most character development out. So the Ratliff 699 00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,904 Speaker 2: sibling is like the first shot of them we see 700 00:28:14,944 --> 00:28:17,264 Speaker 2: on the boat and it's like Saxon's like just sitting 701 00:28:17,384 --> 00:28:19,824 Speaker 2: up looking all like he's in charge, Piper's in the 702 00:28:19,824 --> 00:28:23,184 Speaker 2: middle looking all like pure, and Lachlan's looking all nervous. 703 00:28:23,224 --> 00:28:25,424 Speaker 2: And the last shot we see of them is Saxon 704 00:28:25,544 --> 00:28:28,504 Speaker 2: head down reading a book, Piper like looking very kind 705 00:28:28,544 --> 00:28:31,544 Speaker 2: of resolved and like she's leaning in smart yeah, leaning 706 00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:34,064 Speaker 2: into a rich girl narrative. And then Lachlan's just kind 707 00:28:34,064 --> 00:28:36,704 Speaker 2: of sitting back like he's kind. He's come out as 708 00:28:36,704 --> 00:28:39,064 Speaker 2: like the top sibling. Weirdly, so they all had like 709 00:28:39,224 --> 00:28:40,424 Speaker 2: different character arcs. 710 00:28:40,464 --> 00:28:43,304 Speaker 1: I loved Saxon's ark like, I loved his development. 711 00:28:43,304 --> 00:28:44,424 Speaker 2: I always felt sorry for him. 712 00:28:44,424 --> 00:28:47,224 Speaker 3: I don't know why, because he was prayed upon by 713 00:28:47,224 --> 00:28:47,704 Speaker 3: his predis. 714 00:28:49,864 --> 00:28:52,264 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I don't know if that incest storyline, 715 00:28:52,304 --> 00:28:54,504 Speaker 2: like it was obviously interesting, but I felt like maybe 716 00:28:54,624 --> 00:28:56,344 Speaker 2: didn't even have a point anything felt at the end 717 00:28:56,344 --> 00:28:59,264 Speaker 2: it was there for shock value. Not only it didn't 718 00:28:59,264 --> 00:29:02,024 Speaker 2: like change anything in their family except that it got 719 00:29:02,104 --> 00:29:04,384 Speaker 2: Lachlan to say that he's a people pleaser in his family, 720 00:29:04,424 --> 00:29:06,224 Speaker 2: a narcissist. But I feel like that needed. 721 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:08,144 Speaker 3: You know what, I know, lots of people pleases, none 722 00:29:08,144 --> 00:29:09,224 Speaker 3: of them are jacking off their brother. 723 00:29:09,344 --> 00:29:12,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, of well that's true. But also 724 00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:15,064 Speaker 2: I felt like what you're saying with the Victoria arc 725 00:29:15,144 --> 00:29:17,424 Speaker 2: with Parker Posi, who was incredible in the role. But 726 00:29:17,544 --> 00:29:19,824 Speaker 2: I did feel like I know bits of her scenes 727 00:29:19,864 --> 00:29:21,704 Speaker 2: got cut, but I think just maybe that she was 728 00:29:21,784 --> 00:29:25,184 Speaker 2: overwritten in some way because they were really building up 729 00:29:25,184 --> 00:29:28,584 Speaker 2: this idea that she she was involved, if she had something, 730 00:29:28,624 --> 00:29:30,344 Speaker 2: and like, what was that whole scene with her and Kate? 731 00:29:30,464 --> 00:29:31,784 Speaker 2: Was that just to show that she doesn't you know 732 00:29:31,784 --> 00:29:32,704 Speaker 2: the scene that day she's. 733 00:29:32,544 --> 00:29:34,504 Speaker 1: A little bit rude but not really rude. 734 00:29:34,384 --> 00:29:35,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, it made no sense. 735 00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:37,944 Speaker 1: And why was she speaking in Taie at the start 736 00:29:38,264 --> 00:29:39,784 Speaker 1: as well? Like why do you know Thay? 737 00:29:40,104 --> 00:29:42,944 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were all of these like little signs that 738 00:29:43,064 --> 00:29:46,704 Speaker 3: she knew more than she was letting on. Yeah, and anyway, 739 00:29:46,824 --> 00:29:49,144 Speaker 3: we can go into more of that on the Friday 740 00:29:49,184 --> 00:29:51,504 Speaker 3: episode because there are just there are so many things that. 741 00:29:51,464 --> 00:29:54,504 Speaker 2: Are so very overall. You know, this is a great show. 742 00:29:54,544 --> 00:29:55,584 Speaker 1: It was a great finale. 743 00:29:55,704 --> 00:29:58,624 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly. And also again so many people getting 744 00:29:58,624 --> 00:30:00,944 Speaker 2: frustrated with spoilers and things. But I think also that's 745 00:30:00,984 --> 00:30:04,144 Speaker 2: the price we pay for having this show that becomes 746 00:30:04,224 --> 00:30:07,744 Speaker 2: part of our lives and like going back into this monoculture. 747 00:30:07,104 --> 00:30:08,824 Speaker 1: Of just don't go on social watch the. 748 00:30:08,784 --> 00:30:11,184 Speaker 2: Same show on the same night. That's it. 749 00:30:11,184 --> 00:30:13,424 Speaker 3: It's part of it good, and it's part of why 750 00:30:13,784 --> 00:30:16,464 Speaker 3: we enjoy it so much because part of it is 751 00:30:16,464 --> 00:30:18,384 Speaker 3: watching it, and part of it is dissecting it with 752 00:30:18,544 --> 00:30:21,304 Speaker 3: exactly So if you don't want spoilers, stay of social 753 00:30:21,304 --> 00:30:22,784 Speaker 3: media until you've watched It's pretty simple. 754 00:30:23,024 --> 00:30:25,824 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for listening today's episode The Spill, 755 00:30:25,864 --> 00:30:28,064 Speaker 2: and if you love listening to our podcast, please leave 756 00:30:28,144 --> 00:30:30,864 Speaker 2: us a review on Apple or Spotify. We read all 757 00:30:30,904 --> 00:30:32,384 Speaker 2: of them and let us know what you want us 758 00:30:32,384 --> 00:30:34,944 Speaker 2: to be covering on the podcast. The Spill is produced 759 00:30:34,984 --> 00:30:37,544 Speaker 2: by Ned Green with sound production by Scott Stronik and 760 00:30:37,584 --> 00:30:39,544 Speaker 2: we'll see you back here on your podcast feed at 761 00:30:39,544 --> 00:30:40,624 Speaker 2: three pm tomorrow. 762 00:30:40,744 --> 00:30:43,064 Speaker 1: Bye bye, bye 763 00:30:46,464 --> 00:30:46,584 Speaker 2: Lan