WEBVTT - A Podcast Feud & Hanging Out With Prince Harry 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.160 Hello, and welcome to Mama Mia out loud. It's what 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.960 women are actually talking about on Wednesday, the fifteenth of April. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.080 I'm hollywayn Right, I'm Amelia Last and I'm Clare Stephen 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:14.319 and I'm giddy, giddy with excitement. I know because one 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:16.400 of the things that's made our agenda today is an 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.520 update on what looks like a royal tour, what tastes 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:21.520 like a royal tour, what smells like a royal tour, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.800 but it's not actually a royal tour. We have some 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.759 insider gossip from the Harry and meghanness of it all. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.360 Plus I've got some very practical advice for how to 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.800 deal with sexist comments on and off the internet. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.960 And we all know that the best kind of gossip 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.720 is podcast gossip. And so there is a viral Alex 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.680 feud and I've developed a PhD in it. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.040 They look exactly the same. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.240 It Alex Squared. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.599 Two people who look the same are having a fight 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.440 about podcasting. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.640 But first we are on day two of Harry and 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.640 Meghan's visit to Australia. It is a royal tour. It 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.160 just is right. It's giving royal tep It's definitely giving 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.640 royal tour. Oh and today I did have a chat 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.000 to our daily news podcast The Quickie about the not 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:14.280 so Royal tour and all the background quick recap. They 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.480 arrived in Melbourne yesterday six thirty am. They were on 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.760 a commercial Quantus flight first class. YEP. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.120 I did hear a little bit of a little bit 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.800 of a tidbit from someone on the flight who said 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:31.280 they were super friendly around the toilet area. There you go. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.440 So they also hang around the toilet area during long 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.039 haul flights because they're flying from LA. How long does 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.760 that take a me e lear fourteen hours? That's a 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.280 long time, right. I assume they're in first class because 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.160 I saw reports that their seat number their seat row 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.840 was three that point the end of the plane. None 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.640 of my business, but I hear that that is first class. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.240 They got changed super fast and went straight to the 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.720 Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne. Megs was wearing a designer dress. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.360 Now in the day that would have sold out a immediately. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.600 Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I haven't seen that, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.240 but she was wearing an Australian dress an Australian designer 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.519 by a designer called Karen g And they went straight 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.480 to the hospital. And when I say I wasn't there, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.560 I definitely wasn't there. But the out louders have been 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.399 sending me so many pictures. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.760 It's so cute, and what kind of things have you 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:20.400 seen in the picture? 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.560 Well, in video, it's so a lot of out loud 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.040 as it turns out, were at the children's hospital yesterday 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.919 for other reasons, like they were working there, or they 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.639 were with their sick children there, or they were visiting 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.680 relatives there. And then suddenly, as if from nowhere, incomes Harry, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.079 incomes Megs. Small talk is on. They are very good 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.679 at that. They are showing all of their small talk prowess. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.800 Harry's been training for that his entire life. And they 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:52.480 everybody said lovely, lovely, How lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely. They 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:53.440 are very good at that. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.400 I liked There was a kid who had a sign 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.040 and Harry said, how long did that take you? And 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.640 the kids said five to six minutes. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.720 And also because they would have been like quick if 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.880 some royal people are coming on some what some royal people, Okay, quick, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.680 we'll make a sight. That's so funny watching them do 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:17.240 that reminds you that that's what Royal's jobs. That's what 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.359 the Royal job is, right. William and Kate are so 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.560 very good at this. You go to a hospital or 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.440 a football club or a whatever, and you make people 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.360 feel good with your small talk and your exceptional beauty. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.919 That's the way that it works today between the two 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.600 of them, they have five events across Melbourne and Canberra. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.880 Then it's Camera and Sydney tomorrow, then it's Sydney for 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.040 the rest of the time. Then it's the Besties event 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.400 to which I am definitely and I cannot stress this 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:49.040 enough not welcome, not invited, not welcome. So fan media right, yes, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.000 so they've done. There's a media ban on that event 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.280 because that is the event where Megan is talking to 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.240 Gemmer O'Neil at the who's the host of her Best 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.160 Life podcast, and it's attracted all of controversy for a 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.800 lot of complicated and quite silly reasons. But it's a 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.600 very it's probably the most Megan forward event, and so 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.400 they're being very tight with their access, which I totally 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:18.159 understand and apparently I even though I am Timu Royal 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.240 correspondent out loud, not not going, but we. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:23.680 Want it on the record that if you were there, 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.520 you would just be there as a fan. I would 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.320 like you wouldn't even be trying to get gossip. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.680 I would be bringing my flower sprinkles for a signature. Exactly, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.880 That's what I would be. Actually, that's probably not the 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.480 right thing to do. Will you sign my giants? 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:40.400 No? 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.840 Please, somebody remove this woman from the room. I've got 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.800 a dilemma about this. Actually, is this school holidays? I 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.640 don't live in Sydney. We know this, right. Do I 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.960 just go home as normal? Or do I creepily hang 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.159 around Sydney for the next few days in case I 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.320 bump into them at the beach. Or do I go 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.480 and hang out with my children? What's what's what's the 0:04:58.480 --> 0:04:59.400 better use of my time? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.880 This up earlier and I've been thinking a lot about it, 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.920 and my advice to you is you should go home 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.560 and be with your children, and if there is an opportunity, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:07.480 don't worry. I'll be there. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:09.200 That's fair. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.000 I leave nearby. I'm ready to step in if you needed. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.800 I have to ask, do you feel like any does 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.279 any part of you feel a bit weird about the 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.960 sort of like Royal tour but not Royal Tour of 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.920 at all because it's like for profit royal Yah. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.200 Well, is that a little I want to know what 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.200 you think about this, right, because my take on this 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.160 watching them, because nobody really knew what to expect a 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.320 lot of apart from the best of the event and 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.760 a couple of other things that have popped up, the 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.279 itinerary of this trip has been kept very closely held. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.680 And what was apparent yesterday when they landed and went 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.920 straight to the hospital is that this was very much 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.800 like the Royal tour they did in twenty eighteen, which 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.400 we talked about on Monday. That tour was seen as 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.480 one of the catalysts for everything going wrong because they 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.440 were so good at it, that Pacific tour that the 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.400 other Royals got jealous. That is not speculation. That is 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.920 in Harry's book. That is in spare. He says, seeing Meghan, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.480 new to the family, do such a good job upset 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.200 everybody and it started the bad blood. The thing that's 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:20.680 really interesting is they are now doing exactly what they 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.920 wanted to do when they were trying to negotiate the exit. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.200 So there was this thing called the Sandringham Summit in 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.160 I think it was twenty twenty. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.160 We wanted to collaborate with the Queen. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:35.280 Yes, and they wanted the Queen collap Yes collab hash 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.160 tag Lizzy collapse. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.920 Bluesy x Meghan. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:44.440 That's exactly right. They wanted to literally do that. To 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:50.400 amplify reach, they proposed a sort of half in, half 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.360 out arrangement, which was that they got to be royal, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.720 but they got to live in America and they got 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.640 to also pursue private business deals. Now the Queen was like, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.440 that is not what's going to happen, and that is 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.960 all on the record. Also in Spare. The thing is 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.599 that is exactly what they're doing. So in a way, 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.640 this is watching them do this and watching them sprinkle 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.720 their star power around and you know, ride the waves 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:18.280 of the criticism and whatever. It's ballsy. They are just going, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.640 I know that we're not officially on a royal tour, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.600 because the point of a royal tour, in case you're wondering, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.120 you're like, what is this is It supposed to be 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.680 about tightening relations between the monarchy and therefore Britain and 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.120 whichever host country. So that's the purpose of it. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.240 For instance, Charles and Camilla are headed to Washington, DC 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:37.600 soon on such a. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.640 Tour exactly, So what is the point of a semi 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:47.360 royal tour? Who are we tightening bounds between? What are 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:48.640 we tightening ties? 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:48.720 Like? 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.720 What am I trying to go there? 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.960 We're amplifying brand, That's what we're doing. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.440 So that's really interesting because they are doing exactly what 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.120 they wanted to do, semi royal, semi shining spotlight on 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.880 charities and causes they care about, semi making money feelings. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.920 That's why I feel weird about it. Look, I think 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.480 there has been a lot of as usual with Meghan 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.600 sexist and racist commentary around her visit. I read an 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.480 article on the weekend in the Australian Press I won't 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.800 mention where which said that Harry and Meghan are using 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:22.840 Australia as an ATM. And I didn't love that formulation 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.200 because really that's what's called making a living. And I 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.360 don't have a problem with people trying to make a living. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.240 But I guess I do feel weird about They must 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.720 think it's weird that they're sort of touring the world, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.600 going to hospitals, spreading joy, but on behalf of who 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.000 and to what ends. I guess the reason they're going 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.600 to the hospital. To spread joy is both to spread 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.040 joy but also to eventually sell more flower sprinkles. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.360 Right, well, here's the thing. I think this is just 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.640 such evidence of the fact that it takes very little 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.960 to make Australia feel special, and it's because we are 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.680 so far away and we feel a little bit neglected 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.000 by the world sometimes. And so I saw that headline 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:12.520 that you're referencing, and my first response was very like, no, no, no, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.199 I don't agree with that, and just very cynical. And 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:16.760 I'm like, come on, we need some joy. There's a 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.520 lot happening in the world. We need some joy. But 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.760 the fact that now that Harry and Megan are here, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.920 I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I'm so obsessed. 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.720 I getting so much joy and. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.120 I know I've had it. That's what some of the 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.120 out louders who sent me pictures from the hospital and 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.439 stuff said, is like, I mean, I know we said 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.160 this about everything now. The world is hard, everything's bad news. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.760 This just seemed nice. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.360 And she's wearing lovely clothes and lovely shoes and Harry 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.400 and Harry and his small talk and it's all so 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.160 gorgeous and we get all the little tidbins. We love. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.679 I love that our newspapers right now are saturated with 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.040 photos of everyday people who have had minuscule interactions with them. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.839 And that's the news, and that's exactly what happened last 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.800 But Australia's always had this funny thing of we really 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.400 I think we I think we lose it a little 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:12.360 bit about celebrities and fame because we are so far 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.520 away and we're not used to it. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.440 It's interesting anyway, we do have as as I've said, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.960 I may hang around Sydney just in case I get 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.520 to bump into Harry at the Harbor or around Couldgie. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.480 I used to live there. Surely I could give them 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:26.920 some tips about where to get coffee. 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.160 Anyway, I'm picturing you walking around Cougee in a trench 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.040 coat with sunglasses, ready. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.520 To produce my flower sprinkles at any moment. But someone 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.400 who had a legit close encounter with Prince Harry this 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.800 morning is Mamma Mere's associate editor, Amy Clark. You might 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.120 have heard us sometimes on New Beauty. She's excellent in 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.040 every way. She lives in Melbourne. She went to the 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.800 November event this morning where Harry was appearing at the 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.480 Western Bulldogs football club, and of course we have to 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.839 call it aget all the gossip, Amy Clark, you have 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.320 just been in the same room as Prince Harry, us 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.079 I have what does he smell like? 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.160 I was only two seats away from Prince Harry, but 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.840 unfortunately I wasn't able to get a whiff who shape, but. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.560 It was there was definitely some aura in the room 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:16.360 when he walked in. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.360 Did he seem to like? No? 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.520 But what was really actually very surprising was just how 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.160 low key the entire thing was, you know, very little security. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.240 Came in from a side. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.959 Entrance, kind of gave a wave, said hard as some kids, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.400 you know, said hello to a baby, and then just. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.480 Really sat down and was like hey, everyone, like so chill? 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.839 Were people acting normal? Like I wouldn't have acted normal 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:48.199 if I was sitting where you were sitting. I think 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.840 I would have hollered. I would have done a bit. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.560 I would have got some tips of how to say 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.559 hello to babies, because royals are really good at that. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:01.480 So we actually weren't allowed to film or take photos. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:06.120 I was only two seats away and he oh, sorry, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.679 I completely forgot what your question was. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.839 My question was. My question was like, what did you do? 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.880 Like he came out and did you lose it? Yes, yes, 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:17.360 I mean. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.679 Losing my ship because I can hardly speak right now. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:25.439 But everyone was very nonchalant about the Prince harriness of it. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.040 I think actually there was more fanfare for the Wiggles. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:34.400 The Wiggles were in attended Wiggles, including the Hot Wiggles. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:40.000 John he was there, Yes, John very excited. 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.960 Okay, because I guess it's a good comparison because you've 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.520 got Lockie and John Wiggle there as well. Did Harry 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.480 compared to them, compared to other people in the room. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.679 Does he have presence? Does he have riz? 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.440 It's gotta have riz, right, Amy. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.000 He certainly has a He certainly has a presence, very 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.319 like RelA acted in his way of speaking. He was 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.959 kind of dressed, you know, dressed very casually, just a 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:15.360 skinn a black skinny jean. Yeah, like a faded black skinny, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:16.120 no rips. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.120 But I don't think kind of like. 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.120 Faded black skinny. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:22.640 Yeah. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.880 No, he's just a dad, guys, He's just a dad. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.839 They're talking about, you know, you know the struggles of 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.320 fatherhood and early mental health, which was the whole reason 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.040 why you know, he was there was to talk about. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.640 With the mon Vember Institute. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.080 But yeah, I would say he. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:42.840 Does have riz. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:44.679 Did he say anything good? 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.160 He said a few really great things paraphrasing because obviously 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.280 we weren't allowed or untranscribed. But he did talk a 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.200 little bit about the advice that his therapist gave him 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.880 before becoming a father. So he was told that, you know, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.160 you've got to be aware of how you're feeling because 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.640 the baby is born and it's all very exciting, but 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.680 after that, the days, the weeks, the months where you're. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.839 Going to be sitting there going like what do I do? 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.360 What can I do? 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:17.240 And his help he said if he couldn't help Archie, 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:18.160 he would be. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.760 Helping Mum over offering. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.280 You know, that was kind of the best advice that 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.720 he got from Carabous. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.120 Can I just interrupt? Did he say mom or mom? 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:27.400 That's kind of important. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:34.120 He's still very British, very like mum mummy. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:37.880 No. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.480 He also spoke about that he spoke a lot about 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.200 mental health, as the royals often do. But interestingly I 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.840 thought that he said and his words, actually he says, 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.080 the more shit that he gets about speaking about mental 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.280 health and being open. The more it just makes him 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.880 want to speak more, so he will not be He 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.960 will not stop talking about you know, vulnerability, mental health, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.480 you know, talking to your male friends, all of that jazz. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.680 That's why he knows who Brene Brown is. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.640 Yes, he quoted, he quoted. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:13.360 I didn't. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:14.760 I don't know what quote it was. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.400 I mean, I'm sure she's got She's got many fabulous quotes. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.920 But he quoted Brene Brown. He's they're talking about therapy. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.080 He also was at pains to point out to the 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.520 room that you know, yes we're talking about men's mental 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.800 health and early fatherhood, but that you. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.720 Know, women are women are awesome. 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.640 Though that was the quote, Okay, women are awesome. Did 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.360 he go outside and kick the footy around? 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.640 Of us? Seen that he did? 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.640 Can the Prince kick an AFL ball? He can? 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:45.600 He can kick? 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:47.920 He did not come to her. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.040 No, he did a bit of a clanger that went 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.000 far over the small child's head, and he turned. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.880 Around and looked a bit cheepish about that, but he 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:58.440 mastered the. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:07.400 Child. Remember when Harry has gone in for a high tackle. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.880 No, no tackling. It was all very kind of rudimentary skills. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.680 I heard he might have got upstaged by some other 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.800 celebrities who were there though, correct. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.000 So while Harry was kicking the footy, we had an 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.640 incredible acoustic performance by the Wiggles that was going on 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.120 that was drawing a lot of attention, specifically Hot Wiggle. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:29.680 That's the John Pierre John. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:30.440 Yeah, Hot John. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.880 And also he was competing with the actual Western Bulldogs 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.160 football players, so. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:36.080 It was a tough gig. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:43.360 The arms on those boys, yes, not the shorts about that, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:44.800 not of my business. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.280 No Wiggles Wiggles arms were covered, can confirm right. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.880 So basically Harry spent the morning getting upstaged by Wiggles. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.360 That is the headline here. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.840 Something I love about Australian culture is that are we 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.240 pressed by the royals a little bit? Who were more 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:03.960 impressed by the Wiggle. 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.879 Yeah, the Wiggles. I have one more question. Did people 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:09.800 bow to him? 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:11.200 No? 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.120 No bowing now and shaking handshaking shaking? 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:17.320 He yes. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.680 He was referred to and was referred to throughout as 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.680 the Duke, not to be confused with another. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.520 Duke that we love in pop culture, of course, Bridgington. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.800 But to the Duke, the Duke, the Duke. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.080 So very much, still have has the royal vibe Brigidon. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.000 Whole thing has probably given dukes more riz than. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.440 They have sound sexy amy. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.440 That's an exceptional account of your royal morning. Thank you, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.320 Thank you for going there for someone. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:47.879 Had to do it, happy to do it. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.359 Love your work as always, So yeah bye. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.240 In a moment. Not everyone on the internet approves of 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.600 women kicking goals, and so we're going to talk about 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.400 what to do about it. A milestone for Australian women 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.440 this week. Susan Coyle is the new Chief of the Army. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.159 She is the first woman to lead a branch of 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.520 the defense force. She's fifty five. She joined the Army 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.159 Reserve as a soldier in nineteen eighty seven and she 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.080 moved up the ranks from there. When I was reading 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.080 about this appointment, I was kind of shocked to learn. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.960 Up until fairly recently, it was very difficult for a 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.439 woman to ever imagine getting into any kind of senior 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.960 role in the army. Apparently in the nineteen fifties women 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.880 had to leave service in the Women's Army Corps when 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.399 they got married, and then later that got changed to 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.480 when they were pregnant. I loved what Jennifer Parker, who's 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.080 a defense and national security expert, had to say about 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.280 this in a newspaper op ed this week. She wrote, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.320 the appointment of Australia's first female service chief is not 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.840 just about one individual, but the cumulative effect of those 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.040 who were constrained by policy, limited by expectation, or passed 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.040 over despite their capability, And then she said it is 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.359 in many respects over jew Holly, I know you mentioned 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.400 to me that we have a number of out louders 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.480 who serve in the Australian Defense Force and we thank 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.359 them all for their service, and I hope that they're 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.360 taking joy and pride in this, just as the rest 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.240 of Australia should be. So. Susan Coyle is a trailblazer, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.400 but she's also really uniquely qualified for the role. She's 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.800 the first service chief to come from a leadership role 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.359 which involves emerging technology. Is like space and cyber and 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.639 lots of complicated things that Australia needs to be on 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.560 top of. So she's very much an army chief for 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.320 the future. But then that's why I guess I was 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:41.160 so distressed when you told me, Holly that not everyone 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.359 on the Internet is pleased about this appointment. 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.120 No, this is one of the reasons why we're talking 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.080 about this is because an out louder and I'm going 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:53.240 to respect her privacy beyond the group, beyond our Outlouders 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.119 group by not naming her. But she posted in the 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.760 out Louders group this, I'm going to read out what 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.040 the post said. It said. I have to be honest, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.119 I'm genuinely shocked. I wasn't prepared for what I've been 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.920 seeing across social media and I can't scroll past it 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:10.440 anymore without saying something. The volume of sex is degrading 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.440 and just plain inappropriate. Comments directed at the Lieutenant General 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.679 Susan Coyle has been staggering, hundreds and hundreds of them. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.880 And it's not just men, it's women too. That part 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.960 has hit me harder than I expected. This is a 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.640 woman who has worked her way to the very top 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.399 of a field and that has never been made easy 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.000 for us. And rather than pausing to acknowledge what that takes, 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.040 the years to sacrifice the performance, people are tearing her 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.920 apart for being there, for doing her job. I work 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.520