WEBVTT - How Strict Is Too Strict? 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.080 We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land. We're recording 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:11.160 on today, those bloody movie marathons. My god was allowed exactly. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.440 No one should be allowed to the marathon that's going 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.560 on there? What isn't going on there? I saw some 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.640 stuff yuck exactly. We'll just leave it at that. Hello, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.320 and welcome to eat, sleep, shit, repeat the podcast all 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.240 about the madness that is motherhood and everything in between. 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.640 I'm Kelly mccaron and I'm key ree Searls. It is 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.879 so good to be back. We've had a little bit 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.880 of deliberation, haven't we kel Well, can I say? It's 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.839 just that it's been quite the kafuffle getting this episode. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.360 I feel like that's just the story of our lives, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.839 the kerfuffle. I think it's very on brand for mums, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.920 like we are doing it tough, you know, like last 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.040 week what happened. The kids weren't sick, No, the dog 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.040 started vomiting up blood. And if it's not one thing, 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.720 it's the other. But we did recall with this episode 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.360 last week and my bloody mic didn't wo and it 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.640 was a really good episode. So I really hope that 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.720 we can get the magic back. How we will. We will. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.440 The first part of the episode will be different because 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.360 it will it's been a few days, so we're going 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.440 to have a different peak and pick probably, But we 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.039 did want to ask you before we got into that, 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.319 whether or not you, as our lovely listeners, are you 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.160 interested in hearing about our picks and pits or are 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.760 you just like, stop being so depressive and floppy, or 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.200 also just we do want to know because I know 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.120 that sometimes I could not care less about the host's 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.280 live yes, lives. Yeah, when I'm listening to a podcast, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.080 I'm like, shut up, just get into the topic that 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.279 I'm here for. However, that's I guess where time stamps 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.720 are also helpful. Yeah, exactly, And I think it's a 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.560 really cute way to start off the episode, Like sometimes 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.200 you're going to the same thing as someone who might 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.240 be listening. I get little messages after and I'm like, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.520 ding dinging, I'm not the only mum who's I'm going 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.880 to doing it done right now or slaying if it's 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.040 a good day. So is your pit different to what 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.880 it was when we last recorded to this episode? I 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.200 would say yes, because I think I was having a 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.880 lot of guilt over the lack of patience. But last 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.840 week I was so exhausted. I just had a really 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.040 full on week of pod record So I had three 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.200 different pod records and all the things that go with it, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.320 the socials, the preparation, the scripting, all of that. Apart 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.880 from that, yeah, and then I had obviously my content 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.720 creation stuff and it was just a big week of that, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.520 and so I was exhausted. So even when I typically 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.040 would get my little rest in on my Thursday and 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.880 Friday room nap time, I didn't get that. Oh usually 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.200 up as well. Well, yeah I tried to or I 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.280 rest like I literally watch TV or something. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.120 and I'm very important. The Friday, I was in shambles 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.400 because we had to pack. We went away for the weekend, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.640 and it was just a lot the to do list, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.760 the to do list, and it's often like the mum 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.640 or the primary current in the relationship, if you are 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.760 in a relationship raising kids, it's like they have to 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.720 kind of put all of that admin and stuff together. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.920 So the Friday for me was really stressful and I 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:04.720 felt like I wasn't that patient. I was to a 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.320 certain point, but then I'm like, I don't I let 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.160 her sleep for bloody four hours, didn't I you would 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.120 have paid for that that night. Yeah, we're way away though, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.040 because it didn't matter. That's what I said to myself. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.600 I was like, that's all right, let's take the hit 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.079 and she can go to bed at ten, which she 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.160 did and it was fine. But my peak was that 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.720 Rue has finally taken a liking to television. I love 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.200 that you've had the most beautiful weekend, Await, but that 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.200 is still your peak of the week. Welcome to the 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.680 TV loving club. It's honestly been so good. She's just 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.840 at the stage now where before she could just kind 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.000 of posh her on around me and blah blah blah blah. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.880 But a lot of the time now, when I'm getting 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.720 ready and need to get out the door, the reason 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.840 why I'm late is because I'm having to entertain her 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.640 at the same time. So there would have been no 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.920 way that I would have gotten anything done on that 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.080 Friday morning had I not been able to sit her 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.200 in front of the television and put Snail on the 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.040 whale on for her to want nail in the world. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.600 That's her favor, isn't it. She gazed and gazed, amazed 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:06.440 by it. All, and she said the whale. I feel 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.680 so small. She loves Nail while she loves Zog. Honestly, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.360 I know I've recommended this a bunch of times, but 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.440 ABC IVU, the Julia Donaldson series, it's slow TV. It's 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.080 just like Zazzy approved, Zazi approved, we love as sod 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.800 in the show notes, and I feel okay about it. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.680 I think it's just like, obviously, I want to just 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.480 always cavey up when we're talking about television. I never 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.520 judge any other parent for what they do. I'm so 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.960 happy for that. From my lived experience growing up as 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.039 a TV kid, I just had a different feeling of 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.680 how I wanted to raise ruin the type of television 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.320 I want to give her, And it's slow based on 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.960 what Zazzi recommended, But it just was so good to 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.960 just have her sitting there. I knew she was safe, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.200 I knew she was entertained, and I run around and educated, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.919 and I could run around like a headless trip but 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.680 actually get stuff done without trying to come up with 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:55.080 different games. Yeah, I mean, Lenny tries to help me 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.720 with all those sorts of tasks, but often that's not 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.080 slows you down to it's not helpful. Yeah, he's trying 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.839 to unpack the dishwasher. And then I was like, time 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.000 for TV. But anyway, so I would say, actually that 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.800 my peak is going to alleviate some of the pressure 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.039 that I feel around my pit. It's like television will help. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.400 So I think in those times where I don't have 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.640 a lot of patience, I might just need a five 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.000 minute break boom sit or a half an hour break. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.479 I was to say five minutes, yeah, just to find 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.279 the right show exactly. But yeah, I'm really enjoying it. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.080 And you know what, on Sunday, we actually sat down 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.359 and watched sing as a family. Everyone in the city 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.440 gets a shot at being a star in our singing competition. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.120 This staate just about to explode with major piggy power. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.000 Oh my god, that is so cute. And you know what, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.080 it was really fun like to sit down, snacks, we 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.960 gave her dinner. We just like photo past u while 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.760 we're doing it and hanging out. But it was really nice, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.320 like I actually really enjoyed kind of the ritual of 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.400 it and seeing her little face light up with all 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.479 the different things. So, yeah, I'm into TV. She's into TV. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.280 It's helping our household helfs move. Yeah, definitely. I tried 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.360 to get Lenn to watch that show. I was like, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.360 do you want to watch Ruu's favorite show? Hated it? 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.919 The Snail appeared and he just went no, Well, do 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.280 you know what? I realized, Snail on the Well is 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.080 quite scary, Like they go out in the deep ocean, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.919 there's like a shark incident and there was just like 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.600 big crashing waves. I'd be interested. I love water things too, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.640 you would honestly really like it. But on the weekend 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.760 when we went away, we went away two couple friends 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.919 they eat Oh my god. They were like, please do 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.440 not show our children. Well. They wanted to put on 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.360 Pepper Pin I've got a bigger version to pepper Pig 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.559 because everyone says it's really rude, and I'm like, okay, 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.200 well we shan't be watching that. And that's what our 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.560 little friend wanted to put on. But her mum was like, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.640 let Annie Ki choose because she knows I'm a little 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.680 bit stricter with what I'm letting Rue watch. Anyway, so 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.440 I put on Snail on the Way, and poor Ava 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.480 she's like in tears because of the scary but so 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.440 I'm like, I did not realize how terrifying my the 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.159 show is, but because Rue read it as a book 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.000 and then saw she wasn't scared. She's not scared at all. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.599 But AVA was like, what do you mean? And then 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.520 I was like, well, let's put on Zog and everyone 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.160 was like, let's put on dragons, and I'm like, all right, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:08.040 put on play school, put it on place. Sorry anyway, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.440 that's really yeah. It just reminded me before I had 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.840 my own child. One year, I was like listening to 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.400 this podcast and it was recommended anyone with kids or 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.760 buying presents for kids. This book is so good. It's 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.640 the perfect thing for all children. I really recommend it. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.960 I was like, watch me be Auntie of the Year. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.880 So I ordered a bunch of these books and then 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.360 gifted them to a lot of the children in my life. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.120 So Christmas which is also very unlike me, very organized, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.960 but it's basically about this little boy whose brother gets 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.760 hit by a bus and dies and then he gets 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.960 a cat. But like in the book, there's like the 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:54.000 blood on the ground and it is graphic and just confronting, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.360 and my friend's trying to tell me politely because I'm like, oh, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.680 just seven, So enjoy his little book that Auntie got him. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.120 And they're like, no, we hit it, we'll throw it out. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.400 I love that. It's hilarious. We've got to find out 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.600 what the book was. I'll put it in the show 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.840 notes as an unrecommendation. Yeah, yeah, a reverse recommendation. Over 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.120 to you kel what we all let's start with Pitt. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.200 What was your pit? My pit was that I was 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.640 diagnosed with a brain aneurysm. So I went to get 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.000 an MRI Wednesday, two weeks ago. I was like, I've 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:33.560 got to have a bloody a mari and whatnot. Anyway, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.920 went to get the m R. I don't think you 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.960 have actually expect anything to come up. Yeah, you just 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:43.600 make jokes, but you don't think procedure or it's just 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.760 a checklist to make sure you know, which is what 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.120 I told myself, what everyone else told me about it. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.040 So I had my doctor appointment on the Thursday and 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.840 she was like, clear of this, clear of that, clear 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.280 of that. Now they have found a small suspected brain aneurysm. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.360 And I burst into tears because growing up with my 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.640 dad as a paramedic, I was like, well, I would 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.840 just hear these horror stories about my dad just going 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.839 to someone with a really piercing headache and they literally 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.480 just dropped dead. Yeah, because their aneurysm burst. My doctor, 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.320 she's so lovely. She was like, no, no, that's because 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.000 it goes undetected and it's huge. Yeah, it does burst. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.600 And she was like, I might not even be that. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.760 It could have just been like a dodgy scam. But 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.959 in my mind, I'm kind of thinking these machines are 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.880 hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't think that scans 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.600 it's dodgy. Yeah, But anyway, So I then had to 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.000 go get a ct angiogram, and all of this is 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.480 very terrifying for someone that hates medical stuff. I hate needles. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:37.920 They never confined a vein. I had to have this 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.439 giintass canulas shoved in my arm. I'm there by myself 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:47.880 just sobbing. It was just awful, awful anyway, I think 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.560 it was. Then two days later it was confirmed that 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.160 it's indeed a small brain aneurysm. So I've got to 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.480 go see a neurosurgeon and they have to go to 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.520 a panel and discuss what to do. I guess whether 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.000 or not they just monitor it or if they clamp it. Yeah, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.600 which the idea of being thirty five and having brain 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.200 surgerat I know I'm fine, i know I'm not going 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:15.080 to die. It's just very confronting and stressful. And especially 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.680 when the receptionist on the phone when I was booking 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.680 to see the neuro search and she was so lovely 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.400 and she was like, oh, Kelly, I've got you at 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.800 the top of my pile. Oh Darlan, this is so stressful. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.840 You're so young, what a big deal? Like she was 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.160 just so lovely. But also then that made me really 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.760 upset because I guess I'm so used to people saying, oh, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.079 you're fine, you're fine. Yeah, Yeah. She met you at 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.920 your concern and gave you Also, maybe it made me 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.679 more concerned because she was like, this is really serious. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.400 It's going to have to go to a panel, Like 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.400 you know, you're very young to have this. But sometimes 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.400 it's nice when someone's up front with you, because it's 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.720 like how you said going into the MRI, thinking everyone's 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.440 saying to you, it's just a checklist, we're just checking 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.720 off the list, blah blah blah. Then you're more shocked 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.640 when they find something wrong. Yeah, and I'm falling to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.640 bit basically, not to say that you know anyone's journey 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.240 or health problem that comes up is you know, more 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.520 serious based on whether you have kids or not. But 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.280 I think as a mum, when something happens to you 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:15.120 to do with your health, there's an added layer of concern, worry, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.800 anxiety around. I said to my mum, I was, I 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.520 just don't want to leave Land year and I know 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.600 I won't. I know that I'm fine, but that's just 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.480 obviously my biggest concern because I do not want that 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:35.040 bloke growing up with just Luke God anyway. So that 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:40.920 is my pit and my peak is people around me. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.080 I just love my friends and family and that you 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.880 will meet me where I need you to be. Yeah, 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.160 and you will understand that a sense of humor is 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:51.720 the only way that I know how to ever get 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.760 through anything. Yeah. So a couple of people that I 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.640 told they were like, well, Firstly, when I told Hannah, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.120 Hannah was like, oh well, thank god you're not bloody terminal. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.160 I couldn't deal with the theatrics as you were. And 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.720 then like my girlfriend Emma was like, oh cool, So 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:20.080 that explains the doc Martins, you know, because girls that 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:21.600 I play in it, but they were like, oh, how 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.000 did you get con? I was like this, And then 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.960 we're playing and I fell over for the fourth time 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.200 in one game, and then this other girl fell over 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.319 and they were like, what's her excuses? I don't know 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.200 ban aneurysm do they don't. And then even things like 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.280 he's like, good luck this morning because she knew I 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.640 was having a skin and I just sit back like 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.400 one of those hospital selfies where you're like, just sat 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.120 in my little gap with the canula in my arm, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.480 just like ma'am. That's all. I said that I was scared, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.000 and he wrote back, Oh, you look really pretty, you 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:56.960 look really hot, So like I mean, so I think 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.040 just like the people around me. Just good sense of humor, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.760 being able to make me laugh one d All of 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:11.840 that sort of stuff is definitely a good peak. Yeah, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.600 before we get into the episode, we are having a 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.400 little break for a couple of weeks between seasons. We 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.240 realized that season three has been going for sixteen episodes. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.319 That just seems like a little bit too long. I 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.920 don't know, we don't want to get into the OC territory. Yeah, 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.520 it's a twenty six episode. Yeah, it's like the next season. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.920 And also we're chasing our tails a little bit at 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.560 the moment, and we think that we just want to regroup. Yeah, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.640 have a look at the show. We had our one 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.280 year anniversary a couple of weeks ago. Now, Pari Hippopparie 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:38.960 was it's just a good time to kind of like 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.520 take check of what's going on, make some changes, and 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.199 then launch into our fourth season. Yeah. Fuck yeah. For 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.640 rear Gyar, I sent through some like the top line 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.240 concepts the other day. I was like, what do you think, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.600 just knowing that she would be like, oh, I always 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.080 am my content queen. True. True, I'm not always like 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.840 that with you. Sometimes I'm just like, oh god, no, yeah, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.320 doesn't like my suggestions. No, they're just they're too practical. Yeah, 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.200 talk about ghosts. Yeah, I'm like, sure, let's do it. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:15.920 Then on the pod today we are talking all about 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:21.000 strict rules you had growing up. Key can't relate, He 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.760 can't relate, so I had to outsource my rules. They're 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.960 so funny. Luckily, I've got good friends who care about 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.600 me and we're happy to offer up their trauma for 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.720 me to share. On the postage, I love the niche 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.280 of like childhood trauma that isn't really trauma. No, guys, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.760 there are actual problems in the world, but it's just yeah, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.720 we probably have like a little bit of trauma from it, 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.440 but it's not real. It's the sort of stuff you 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.240 work through with your therapist. Didn't have a real fuddle 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.000 of that. Yeah, yeah, it's funny because Kelly, you grew 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.080 up in a house that was so strict. It is, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.080 especially if someone doesn't know me that well, they'll just 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.200 be like, that is so off brand that you had 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.640 a really strict upbringing because I'm a bit of a 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.240 wild bit of gear in some ways, it's like, yeah, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.520 likes it if you will. When we met at Chopo, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.240 if you had to told me half the rules that 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.600 you have growing up, would have been like, yeah, that's 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.720 you know, that's not on brand because I was the 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:15.840 girl running around drunk with possless chaps and that was 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.960 such a vibe. Though. But I think as people get 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.680 to know me more, I have a fear of authority. 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.080 I get scared, like even asking different people things, and 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.280 I am a stickler, like I do enjoy a rule. Yeah, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.640 you do. Actually, even with like lend in the way 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.040 that you kind of do raise him like, you know, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.680 you can see that you've had a bit of a 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.360 bit of rules in your life. Ye yeah, And I'm 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.840 quite strict with the rules that I do have with him, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.960 yeah exactly, which given his two when I enforce them, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.480 oh my word, it's like I've tortured him. The bottom 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.040 lip came out on the weekend, huge, big fat tears 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.960 running down his face. He was so upset he hit 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.200 me in the face and got in trouble. So they 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.840 should know the hitting is where I draw the line, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.360 hitting me or hitting anyone else. Even though he thinks 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.000 he's been funny most of the time, it's not. Actually 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.320 the militia. Why do they think they're being funny? It 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.800 is so honestly, it's such a head fuck when they're 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:08.520 like fully like slapping you and then laughing after it, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.160 And I'm just like, what kind of a sick joke 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.040 is this? Yeah, your little psychopath. Anyway, we're going a 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920 bit off topic here. Taught me through your strict upbringing. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.240 Cal So for context, my dad was one of four boys, yeap, 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:25.400 and they were so naughty. They were so naughty, like 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.280 he stole his dad's cigarettes at seven, shut up, and 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.040 we'd like go around the corner for a little path 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.680 las seven. It's just like if I look at a 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.360 seven year old now and imagine that, I could not imagine. 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.080 I get cranky at Ashley, seven year old for like 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.400 sneaking off with chocolates and hiding as room and eating chocolates. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.120 I was like, you left the wrappers in there, Bally, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:50.080 how very dare you? Meanwhile, my dad's oh yeah, and 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.120 it's not even you know, these days the seven year 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:53.760 olds might be on the vapes a bit of grape 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.720 or light sheep. Back then, they probably didn't even have 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.560 the ment boles or the less aggressive cigarettes. Trying to 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.440 watch you explain cigarettes because you've never smoked, have you? 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.560 I beg your pardon. I have had a cigarette in 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:10.560 my time, just when you said to the less offensive cigarrettes, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.760 I have smoked a cigarette before. Okay, sorry, I was 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.760 young once. You just don't strike me as a smoker, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.880 though not with my father. You know what we had 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.480 in our household in the garage, what a lung? A lung, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.159 A giant poster of a lung full of all of 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.160 the cancer and stuff that happens when you smoke. He 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.240 was a paramedic, so that makes sense. That was the thing. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.720 My mom, for context also one day said to me, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.479 because they won't let me go to a party, and 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.879 she was like, hell, the place that you want to 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.480 go to he found a girl only a little bit 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.640 older than you, passed out, beaten up when they were 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.679 called to the job. So I think it's just it 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.240 was an accumulation of different things. Hey, that is such 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:55.960 a unique experience though, because you grew up in a 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.920 small town. Your dad's a paramedic, he would be going 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.159 to these parties that these teenagers are out, you know, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.600 people who have drunk too much. Yeah, in that case, 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.640 so I feel like you just got stitched up. Yeah, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.439 big stitch up there because your grandparents weren't strict at all, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.800 and your mom well, well she was a well she 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.560 was not there. She dipped out a couple of times. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.760 Her strictness was so strict that she was like, raise yourself, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.600 raised yourself, go on, do it, you go. I counted, 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.400 and the only rules that I could remember were two rules. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.439 Don't cross the road without an adult. This was obviously 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.040 when I was like a child, like you know, primary school. 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.600 I hope it wasn't now or not at the traffic lights. 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.199 And I remember when I broke that rule, I've like 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.199 had this guilt for months. I was like sick with it. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.080 I remember that was the first time that I felt 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.600 what I then would find out later was guilt or 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:48.600 anxiety movie both for months because you had crossed the 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.119 road not at the lights. Yeah, and without an adult. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.080 Oh no, I know, but I was in a really no, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:58.199 I actually completely get it. And I told you, and 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.560 I said to the other older kids that I'd crossed 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.720 the road. I was like, what was that saying that 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:07.040 was on the ad? Look watch see oh look left, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.240 look right, look left again, whatever it was. And I 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.000 crossed it and said to the big kids, don't worry. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.720 And then I repeated that saying back. And then I 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.399 had even now second hand embarrassment for myself. I just 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.920 started sweating on your behalf. The other rule I had 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.440 was don't drink soft drink before midday, which seems like 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.920 a valid rule, but I was a teenager. I was 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.600 allowed to do whatever they want. I mean, they wouldn't 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.480 buy me like alcohol or anything, but a lot of 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.399 the time they would like drive me to my friend's 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.400 house and then we would like go to a party 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.080 and like get alcohol. Or there was one time I 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.280 told my grandparents I was staying at say, like Abby's house, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.679 and we snuck over to this boy's house and like 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.280 drank there. But then the mums found out and they 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.960 came over in the morning. We got into so much trouble, 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.919 but they didn't tell where grandparents because they didn't want 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.960 to worry them. And I was like, yes, so everyone 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.320 got grounded except me. Oh, but your grandparents probably wouldn't 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.400 have even grounded you. They would have been like, ah no, 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.679 they would have been really disappointed because they thought I 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.439 was quite cool. Weren't. But I was like, you were 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.240 naughty when I Wasn't it naughty because I didn't have rules. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.199 That's why as a parent, I think I will be 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.879 quite controlled the fun. It's about like building trusts are 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.320 important learning, Like I understand that rules will be broken, 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.959 but I think that you need you need structure as 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.320 a young adult. And as we talked about in the 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.920 Spoiling episode, boundaries, they're so important at the end of 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.639 the day, it's for your safety. Like I remember this 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.480 when I art sourced to my girlfriends. You know that 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.200 we got kind of a bit of a convo coming 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.320 up about you know, how strict people's parents were, and 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.280 my girlfriend Steph, I think, who is a shitter. She 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.359 is very supportive in many ways. I think she listens. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.000 She also has four kids, so who has the time. 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.639 Her mom was the best. She was kind of like 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.320 a second mum to me growing up, well, a first mum. No, 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.960 I haven't Anna, this is our dark human that comes 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:51.840 out when we're having a silly day. I'm so glad 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:56.600 that the sh is you have to She was awesome 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.480 and that she just would drop us off at parties. 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.520 But she would say, girls, it doesn't matter what time 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.119 of the night or morning wherever you are. If you 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.600 are unsafe, if you don't have a lift home, whatever 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.639 it is, you call me and I will come and 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.399 pick you up. And she said, I don't care if 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.119 you're drunk, you call me and I'll pick you up. 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:15.720 So it's the best rule. She was the best, Like 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.399 she would pick us up on we'd be sideways, we 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.520 wouldn't get in trouble, but she'd pick us up so 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.160 that we were safe and she would bring us home 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.960 to her house. I love that rule, so it was 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.680 good because you pass out, you pass out somewhere and 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.240 getting someone's card that they've been drinking or exactly, and 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:31.920 that was her big thing. She didn't want us getting 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.440 into cars with boys who had been drinking. So shout 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.760 out to Janet. But I think sometimes it's like rules 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.160 but giving them. I mean, we'll get to the lady 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.439 when the kids are bloody teenagers. But the healthiest kids 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.520 I saw growing up were the ones that had rules 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:48.359 but also had a bit of we're given a bit 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.520 of rope. Yeah, Whereas I would say that my parents, 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.159 I was the eldest as well, so I was the 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.440 test run child, A bit of a stitch up, being 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.240 the eldest kid, such a stitch up. I did a 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.280 thing on my own in Instagram months ago where I 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.760 asked people to share their oldest child trauma. Their responses. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.439 Some of them were actually so bad in terms of 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.280 I can't believe that some parents did stuff like that. 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.040 But the thing about that, which is even more of 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.040 a stitch up with having siblings is actually watching it 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.280 play out in front of your different get away with absolutelyness. Oh, 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.520 I remember we had jen on. Remember when Jen gave 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:23.520 the example Jen you're shout out to gen. She's our 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.160 little guardian angel with us trying to handle our kids 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.080 in their tantrums. But she said her kind of skills 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:33.159 and how to navigate tantrums changed over the course of 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.000 her three kids or whatever. And there was at one 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.040 time at the dinner table and her kid was like, oh, 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.320 what got to the naughty corner? And She's like, I 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.760 have changed, And she said the way that I parent 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.280 my fourth kid, who yeah, completely different, the stuff that 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.600 I would watch my siblings get away with. The first 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:52.600 time my parents found me drunk, they made me get 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:54.600 up and go to work the next day, even though 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.399 I had been vomiting all night, and they did not 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.320 speak to me. And when I tell you they didn't 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.159 speak to me, I mean they did not speak to me. 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.840 Mom for a week, Dad for a month. They froze 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.440 you out, completely complete. I got chills from her because 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.520 they were so disappointed in me. You ought to know 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.080 what they did the first time. I'm not mad, I'm disappointed. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.920 It literally fucking worse, isn't it. And I was never 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.520 allowed to go to parties after that. When my brother 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.320 did it, my dad picked him up. Was sending us 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.680 messages going, oh no, your brother's drunk, and he stayed 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.399 up with him all night because he was so afraid 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.439 that he was going to apphixiate on his own vomit. 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.679 And then the next day he got up early to 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.359 cook him a big like bacon and eggs, joking because 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.040 he would have been so hungover. Must be nice, Like, 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:44.240 are you kidding the sexism? Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything, 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.080 but you went there. Yeah, well no, because my sister 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:49.080 got off easy as well. Oh so it wasn't it 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.120 was just a youth. Yeah. I used to love it though, 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.879 because she was such a goodie two shoes compared to me. 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.600 I loved it when she did something naughty, like one 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.639 time she didn't even have a license and she crashed 0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:01.240 a car. What And she told me, I know, And 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.359 I was like, I had the biggest smile because I'm like, 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.440 we better go tell mom and dad. Can I be 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.560 there when you tell them? It's okay, it's okay, everything's 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.760 gonna be fine. And I'm literally in the next room listening, 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:15.160 just like yes, yes, yeah, justice for Quel. I've never 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:22.119 crashed a car without a license. Yeah, only with a license, Okay, Okay, 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.760 talk me through some of the rules that some of 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.680 the rules. Every single facet of my life there were 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.160 strange rules. And I say strange because they were strange. 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:36.480 Like I've always been very weird about meat and texture 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.720 with food. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I had to sit 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.239 at the dining room table and drink my glass of 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:47.120 milk with dinner. And I had to sit there, imagine 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.399 trying to drink like you're already weird about textures, forced 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.439 to eat chunky meat with gristle because we didn't have 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:55.160 that much money, so it's not like they were buying 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.840 primo meat. Yeah yeah, and then finish a glass of 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.560 warm by that point, milk that's been sitting there. Oh, 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.359 that'd be the word. I'd take the gristle over the milk. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.040 D Okay. So we went all to watch any TV 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.760 unless it was the weekend. But even then, on the 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.280 weekend it would be movies. And this was back in 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.600 the day where there was a VCR. Yeah, so they 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.719 would have pre watched the movie. Even PG they might 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.560 pre watch the movie. Wow, okay, I want to cut 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:27.000 out anything. So when you were taping it, you'd pause it. Oh, 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.320 so they'd be taping it as they're watching it. Yes, 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.480 Oh my god. So when you get to watch it 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.200 there you're like, there's chee. I remember there was one 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.399 that I just thought that it was a happy ending, 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.199 and then as an adult, I found out that someone 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.320 had died at the end of this film that they're 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:47.720 just like, cut it out. That person passed away in 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.960 that film. Wait, the doc didn't go to live on 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:55.440 a farm. Yes, sir, so very strict about TV. We're 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.400 allowed to watch the news with mum and dad, which 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.120 seems alarming looking back, like I feel like the news 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.280 so scary. It's also so much worse. But they were like, 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.320 if you're going to watch anything, it's this has to 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.600 be educational. They also knew that as if we would. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.840 And on the weekends even it wasn't like we could 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:12.320 watch South Park or The Simpsons or Home and Away. Nothing. 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.320 Everything was absolutely not It had to be a pre 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.800 approved show or like Nickelodeon. For someone that is like 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.520 has a lot of pop culture references, it's very surprising 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.840 considering there was like decades of pop culture references you 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.640 missed just I have. Like last week I was recording 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.640 for the Spill with Laura Brodneck and she said something 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.400 about Pretty Woman. I'm like, oh, I've never seen it. 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.920 What so I have a lot of pop culture references, 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.520 But I could quote a lot of that film just 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.359 from I've got a really good memory. So even if 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.639 I've just seen little snippets of something, Yeah, actually, like mistake, 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.760 it's huge, Like you would know that from because it's 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.160 so popular from the movie you were on commission, right, Ah, yes, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:58.520 big mistake, big huge Yeah. And I know that whole thing, 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.359 and I know the plot, the general plot. I didn't 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.440 see the movie. Yeah, okay, I mean to be fair, 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.639 a movie about a prostitute being as a kid. As 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.119 a kid, I get that. Probably not allowed to watch it, 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.800 but yeah, so no TV unless it was weirdly pre approved, 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.840 and they would actually enforce it on the weekends by 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:21.800 locking us outdoors in the morning unless it was pouring 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.840 with rain. Locked outside in the morning, we could drink 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.399 from the hose if we were thirsty, stop it, not 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.760 the garden hose, the garden hose, if we were thirsty. 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.720 Who knows what they were doing inside, probably watching probably 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:43.480 ready Simpsons, probably watching the Simpsons and eating all the 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.359 foods that we weren't allowed to eat because they were 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.480 also so strict with junk food, no way. We were 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.760 allowed one can of soft drink on a Friday night, 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.880 and me and my brother Emma never liked soft drink, 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.679 but we'd sit there and like try to savor it 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.600 for as long as possible, yeah, so that the other 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.400 person would then have to watch. I always won. He'd 0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.640 have to like watch me just sip from it afterwards, 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:05.960 and I'd be like, let's have a race to see 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.400 who can drink it the fast, but I just pretend 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.560 and then be like, I'm just still really enjoying my 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:14.080 Coca cola. Yeah, and you know, like one little bowl 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.680 of chips or something. Yeah. Yeah. So we weren't allowed 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.560 any packeted food or those sorts of things. Oh wow. Yeah, 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.960 very strict with food. Not healthy though, it was just 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.879 I guess a budgeting thing, and like I wouldn't say 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.640 the gristly meat at dinner time would be considered healthy. 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.879 Although this was back in the day when that probably was. 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.760 I think it was. I ate a lot of meat 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.520 and three bag a lot of mince with a chewy bit. Yeah, 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.800 you guarantee that our parents or your grandparents, they were 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.080 like if we got a meat pie mashed potato and peas. 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.280 They would be like, this is very healthy. Oh yeah, 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.680 fish fingers, fish fingers, so many fish fingers, so many fish. 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.400 Cheese sauce. Did you ever get cheese sauce? No, I 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:59.280 watched it. It's like milk cheese, milk cheese. It's healthy 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.000 exactly to get that chat, I got to get that 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.120 dairy with the junk food thing. We didn't have McDonald's 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.880 in the town that I grew up here. Yeah, so 0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.840 it would be four birthdays, but it'd be cold because 0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.880 Dad would have to drive to a few towns away 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.800 to actually get it by the time it came back. 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.640 Or occasionally on holidays we might pull into a McDonald's. Yeah, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.120 and we just it was like the jackpot. We were 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:27.200 so excited. Sleepovers were very hit or miss, Like I 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.880 was allowed to go to slumber parties generally, yeah, which 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.200 are honor reflection, they're the bad ones. Yeah, I mean 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.719 we talk a lot about slumber parties and yeah, so 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.320 in high school, they were very selective about whose house 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.560 I could go to, which is kind of rude to 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.480 the other parents if you think about it, well, I 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.080 do think if you're going to say no sleep it 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.200 has to be a blanket rule, otherwise we'll cause some 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.720 friction with the relationships as well. We had to go 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.040 to church every Sunday, and I had to go to 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.479 Sunday school, which I hated with a passion. I hated 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.160 every single thing about it. As someone who I was 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:04.640 very shy, not religious, hated church and all of the 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.320 activities as well. They were so into the activities. So 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.920 I was doing gymnastics, singing, drama, piano, netball, athletics, but 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.280 I had to practice all of them. So Dad would 0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.480 take me to the sports fields and just like make 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.600 me do long jumps over and over and over again, 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.000 and he'd sit there and watch me. He'd lay back 0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.480 and listen as if I was really good while I 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.320 was practicing the piano. I don't think I would have 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.200 been that good, but he'd just enjoying the fruits of 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.960 my labor because obviously all of these activities would have 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.239 cost a lot of money. Like, I just don't know 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.280 why I was doing so many activities all the time, 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.160 because I probably didn't really like doing them that much. 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.880 I wasn't really allowed to do stuff or go to 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.760 parties or like I was bullied in primary school, so 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.360 it wasn't invited to that much, and then in high 0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.400 school I wasn't allowed. And I also lived really far 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.920 from the school I went to. That's right. Yeah, so 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.160 I couldn't just be like, oh, let's go to the 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.960 mall or let's go do this all it had to 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.080 be a pre plant. Yeah, okay, so yeah, we just 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:05.800 got locked outside. We were very creative. I think that's 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.080 why you're so crafty. I always say this. I think 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:09.640 that's a really good thing that's coming out of it. 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.680 You're an amazing reader and you're super crafty, Like you 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.400 can keep yourself very entertained. Oh, I could entertain myself. 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.520 If there was an apocalypse and I was the last 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.120 woman on Earth, I would be fine. I would entertain 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.320 myself to the dawn of time. That's the thing, right. 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.720 This is also why I have such an aversion to 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.680 TV or having TV being so big, is because the 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.200 main way in which I can get myself to calm 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:33.920 down and rest is by watching TV. Because I watch 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:35.640 so much of it. Growing up, I had a TV 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.240 in my room always, which is horrifying to me. On reflection, 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.280 do you have one in your room now? No? I 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.640 have a rule like, no TV in my room because 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.960 I want that to be very separate, like the living 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.880 room is watching and sex or sleep. But I do 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.200 get just like, actually, I'm so full of shit. I 0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:52.640 lie in my bed all the time. I do work, 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.800 but I do like going to a hotel when there's 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.600 a TV in the room, but then it's a luxury 0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:00.200 in trees. Yeah, but see, I think definitely the kind 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.040 of rules you have as a child enforce how self 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.560 sufficient you are as an adult. With my dad being 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.880 such an angry man, no showers at nighttime after a 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.400 certain time because of the pipes. They could have woken 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.960 him up. But he always told me that if I 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.920 dared get my belly button pierced, that he would get 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.960 players and rip it out, And I genuinely was fearful 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.280 about that, which is so unhinged. Did you get your 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.320 belly button pair of size? Yes? I was like, I'm 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.320 pretty sure. And then I couldn't keep it a secret 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.520 because I just couldn't keep it at you. That's why 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.840 I am. Yeah, the fear of authority couldn't keep it 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.720 a secret. And of course he didn't rip it out 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.200 of my belly button with pliers. He just like glared 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.280 at me and then maybe didn't speak to me for 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.120 a day. That's the thing though, as like what that 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.680 teaches me is like saying things like that it's bad 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.840 because they're probably going to do it anyway, and then 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.080 when they realized that the consequence that you said you 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.680 were going to implement that you don't. For instance, I 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.320 was petrified of my mum about the crossing the road thing, 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.400 and I had all of the guilt around it for 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.320 months and when I finally blurted out one day, like 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.440 I crossed the road without an adult and not at 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.720 a crossing and her response was, oh, that's fine, and 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.000 I was like, oh, so I can do it, so 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.080 there's no consequence, Like that was a big hard moment 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:14.760 for me, like as a kid, like, oh, there's actually 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.520 not really any even for my two rules. Yea, even 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.040 for my two rules. And I also think like it's 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.560 once again coming back to boundaries but also having open communication, 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.800 Like I mean, I will just say absolutely no tattoos 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.160 until you're eighteen at least. If you really want a piercing, 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.200 I mean, let me know and I'll take you to 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.000 get it if you really want, because piercing don't bother me. 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.040 Your body. Yeah, they close up, and honestly, you'll probably 0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.960 be a lot more lenient with tattoos because you've got them. No, 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.720 I'll definitely have the eighteen, and I'd like to go 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.920 just so I feel like, let him get anything really aggressive. Well, 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.880 I just feel like everyone says this in their first time. 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.560 They are so scared because it's such a scary environment. 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.920 And tattoo artists are always like, go biggers because you 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.720 don't want to get it, like retouch later on blah 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.440 blah blah. And then you're like, oh, okay, and then 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.520 you end up getting something, your first tattoo ends up 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.839 being bigger than you wanted, and you're just like hate 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.240 not hate it. But I think like it's really important 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.000 to go with someone and have a friend be like, no, No, 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.120 that's what she wants. She's been thinking about it for 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.040 a year and a half. That's the size she wants it, 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.000 that's the color she wants it. Do it how she 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.399 wants cannot be a split decision either. I mean, really 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.919 like one guy said to me, this one on my arm, 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.560 where is it? It's thin? But he said to me, 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.000 I can't go any thinner than that. Have you seen 0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.640 this one. Yeah, clearly he wasn't very good at his job. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.360 He thought that that's what looked best. So like, I 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:38.759 think that's the thing. Is like I want to go 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.879 with rue if she wants to get something so that 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.440 she doesn't get talked into getting something shit that she 0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.719 doesn't want. That's massive, you know, big old tramp stamp. Yeah, 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.880 they're actually back in so obay. Yeah right tro. I 0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.600 don't know if this comes across as laced with judgment, 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.320 because I genuinely don't mean it to. Yeah, if Lenny 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.000 wants a tattoo, I'm gonna be filthy. Really I made 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.160 that skin. Yeah, but that's their I made him the 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.600 biggest piece of advice or something that I was like 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.600 so into recently as my girlfriend Sarah, Sarah, she is 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.719 a massive shitter. She was like, I love my dad 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.960 so much because he always said I am raising you 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.600 to let you go off into the world, and it's like, 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:20.719 I'm raising you to do the things that you want 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.680 to do and make the decisions that make you happy. 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:28.359 I wow, does we dare he go and get something 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.879 on it? It doesn't mean that you get control over 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.920 anything in his life. He is growing into a person 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.600 you are going to shape him in a certain way, 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.839 but then it's his life to lead hands down. How 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.920 many times over the next couple of decades are you 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.799 going to have to talk me off the ledge? Oh, 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.960 I've got enough self awareness? Really struggle with that because 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.040 a big part of me does think of him as mine, 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.680 I know. And I think even with boys and mums, 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.319 I think there's a little bit of an added thing 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.920 when people talk about like nightmare mother in law's. I 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:06.719 think we could already get guilty guilty about your holidays 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.440 with me, Lenny, A stupid girl friend, A boyfriend's not coming. 0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.560 I can't stand them. I'm taking you. I'll pay for 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.239 your tickets, not them. I would love to go on 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.160 holiday with my kids. I know they went to Cullen. 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.439 She's the editor I think of like l Australia. Now. 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.279 She does this thing it's called like twelve z E's. 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.720 So she's got three boys and every time they turn twelve, 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.920 she does a one on one holiday with them and 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.680 it's like they's Jewish? Is that for their bar mitzvah? No, 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.240 I don't think she's Jewish. Oh okay, that's really cute. 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.439 But I thought that was really cute. It's like a 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.520 ride of passage kind of thing, and she's like, we 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.680 get a hotel room together, and she's just like, it's 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:41.200 that last time before they like turn into a teenage boy. 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.120 And I thought that was really like weld enough to 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:44.839 really froth on that sort of thing. Yeah, and it's 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.239 a really cool memory, right, I really love that too. Okay, 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.280 we've gone on a massive tangent. Should we talk about 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.840 the rules keys friends had, the ones I had to outsource? Okay, 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.480 So Chuckles said that he was forced to have a 0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:01.160 nap every Sunday afternoon, which I think is out standing. Sorry, 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.280 he did say that, like he didn't really it was resleep, 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.200 but it was like forced to rest, which I actually 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:09.600 do appreciate. I really think I'm gonna implement that because 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.640 I think that rest is so important. Yeah, but also 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.560 it's just like I need to rest sometimes. I want 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.480 to lie on my phone for an hour. Yeah, exactly, 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.360 I need to quote unquote rest. No alcohol in high school, 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.160 and if they didn't have any alcohol throughout the whole 0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.080 of high school, they got whatever car they wanted. And 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.640 she did it. That's genius. She did it, and she 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.080 was really good at high school like she focused on 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.360 her grade. She would go to the parties, but she 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:38.000 would not be one of the ones that were shrunk. Honestly, 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.640 I do like this rule. I love that. But I 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.600 was thinking about this to other day. I don't know 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.319 if we'll have to worry about that because they're saying 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.399 that the newer generations they don't party or they don't 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.319 drink alcohol. Boring anyway, no dances till grade ten, which 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:57.720 I think is warranted. No discos, are you joking? Seedy 0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:03.480 stuff goes down at those dances. Oh oh goodness, A disco? Okay, Hell, 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.959 I'm gonna say that. You going up in a small town, 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.719 maybe your discos were a little bit more PG than 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.239 the ones that were happening, and the ones that I 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:10.920 was going to, some of them were a bit dodge. 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.480 But you can't miss out on the disco. It's well 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.080 you looked forward to. Well, I think primary school discos 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.560 are different. I'm talking high school, like grade eight, grade nine. 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.080 Oh yeah. The other thing was like those bloody movie marathons. 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:26.120 My girlfriend was allowed exactly, No one should be allowed 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.680 to movie marathon. What's going on there? What isn't going 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.480 on there? I saw some stuff. Fuck exactly. We'll just 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.200 leave it at that. This one's really funny and niche 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.520 because my friend's dad had to get up really early 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.040 on the morning for work, so no one was allowed 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.359 to call the house after five pm. Because dad used 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.239 to have to get up so early for work. I 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.520 remember him losing his mind for people calling quote unquote 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.880 so late and it would be five point fifteen pm. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.279 The other one that my girlfriend said was like no 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.040 TV during the week and then on the weekends it 0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.879 was strictly ABC a boring channel. If you will, Oh 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.239 my god, singer shout out to the ABC. Though I'm 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.640 not boring and they're not. They own Bluey did they not? 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.400 So true? Show your snail show. The other one that 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.840 I thought was pretty funny is that my parents always 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.920 wanted to drop me off and pick me up from everywhere, 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.719 and they rarely let me go with someone else, so 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.080 like even if a friend's mum was driving her to 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:25.080 the same place. Not great for carbon emission. Yeah, this 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.000 was like the early two thousands. Yeah, well it wasn't 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.520 It was a live environment was fine. Yeah, yeah, climate 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.560 change was a myth. Now I actually did do something 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.800 because I felt bad. I thought oh, I'm not dropping 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.000 the ball because you know, I had a fucked up upbringing. 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.279 I'm not really bringing anything to the table because I 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.240 was like, well, I could go a list of fifty rules, 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:46.960 and I don't want to talk a whole episodes. So 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.840 I thought, all right, I had a chat with Charlie 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.360 and we came up with some rules that we're going 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.360 to have for RU. I love this so much. Okay, perfect, 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.799 So I make fun of some of them if I 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.160 need to. Yeah, but remember I'm sensitive. So if you 0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:03.160 feel my energy change, layoff. Oh okay, miss, you're in 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.880 the hospital. Hey, you look pretty. I was trying to 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:10.279 bring up your spirit. No, I'm not sensitive. Can't handle sensitivity, 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.760 can't you can't. Okay. So we've decided definitely no television 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.560 during the week unless it's something as a family. Can 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.279 I just say I think that that's probably because they 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.239 look at me and think she's so well adjusted and 0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.600 smart and successful. I'm not gonna lie. All of my 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:27.239 friends who are like we weren't allowed to watch TV 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:31.480 during the week. I was like, oh, I can tell weird. No, 0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.960 they're all big readers. Ah, yes, because that's what else 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.120 do you do? I don't know if they puzzles, but 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.360 some of them might be. I did many a crossword 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.319 on the weekend in sudoku, actually sadku. See what I mean? 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.560 This is like very flex stuff I want real to have. 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.520 So we're going to prioritize like music, reading, homework, and 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.600 also rest. Rest is a big one that we want 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.200 to prioritize. So once she's at school, she can't leave 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.480 the dinner table until she tells us something that she's 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.920 learned that day, so to encourage reflection, but also conversation 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.759 at the dinner table as like a conversation starter. That 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.040 was actually Charlie's wants shout out to my very husband. 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.600 But I can just imagine now today I learned that 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:13.200 I really hate this tradition. Do won't say that, but 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.080 imagine if you've had a big, annoying day, she's going 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.799 to have to at least be able to have one 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.920 pass a week. No, absolutely not. We're at the dinner 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.960 table or a family, we're having a conversation about what 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.759 you've learned in school today. Charlie made up this one, 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.200 which I was kind of like, this is aggressive, but 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.600 then I was kind of like, huh, it finishes quite nicely, 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.600 pay her to read and once she saves a little, 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.960 teach her the value of money and how to invest. 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:38.000 Love that so much. I thought it was quite cool 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.480 that we're making her read, because no one cared about 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:41.719 it if I read or not, so it's taking me 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.960 ages to get into reading. I think it's really important 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.759 to be well read anyway, and also teaching her how 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.719 to use money, because that's the biggest thing I feel 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:52.080 like as an adult, being kind of like financially illiterate. Yes, 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.919 it's really difficult, So I'm really excited for her. She's 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.400 going to do, I know a lot more than I 0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.839 did anyway. I'm going to have her cook one night 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:00.920 a week. I'll help, of course, I'm not just going 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.960 to throw her into the kitchen. You're going to be 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.840 like chopping for a stir, right exactly, but just to 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.600 kind of help her build those skills that I don't 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.080 even really think I had, Like I've started to cook 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.520 now that I'm a mum because I've had to. But 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.040 I think that creating that environment and having her own 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.160 something each week will be really cute and maybe if 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:23.000 she likes it, it'll flourish. This one I loved Charlie again, 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.919 he's really good at these. The three hobby rule, one 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.399 to keep fit, one to keep you creative, and one 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.600 to make your money. I love that so right, it's 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.520 super cute. I had lots of hobbies to make me money. 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.920 I used to steal people's flowers and sell them back 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.520 to them. I had lemonade stands and such. Yeah, you 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.240 did a lot. You were a hustler, an entrepreneur alas 0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.239 that never continued. Hello, what are we doing right now? 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.400 Ye're not hustler CEOs of our own life hands. Okay, 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.520 So never leave the house without saying I love you, 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.880 which is something Charlie and I always do, because you 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.200 never know what's going to happen. You want to make 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:58.520 sure that you say you love each other. And no sleepovers. 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.959 We're certainly at the life's stage where they're too young. 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.120 They are too young. If we go for sleepovers, I 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.560 go as well. That's even just a thing at the moment, 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.840 because it'll be like, oh, Luke's out with the boys. 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.400 Maybe I'll just go to my sister's house for a 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.279 sleep Yeah, yeah, you know. If my girlfriends have quite 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.200 far away, I'll obviously then take Lan and will stay 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.160 the night. Yeah, so true, so true. So sleepovers are 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.120 kind of like for both of us. We build slumber 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.560 party all my girlfriends and said, we all live in apartments, 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.120 there's not really any room for us now have sleepovers. 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.320 But I usually would just walk home, like I'll do dinner, bath, 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.640 and then like rude just goes home in it. Yeah, 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.120 Jim Jams, that's what I do too most of the time. 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.520 Like if it's just someone around here, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.080 I do think that that's potentially because there's so many 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.160 things to discuss that have come out over the past year, 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.560 and it's definitely a very interesting topic. I think that 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:51.680 I will have the same rule, which is unfortunate because 0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.200 I hated the rule growing up. I think it's just 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.200 like you might trust the parents of a kid, but 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:01.239 you don't know who they trust to come into there. 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.680 He don't know the family, friends, you don't know the uncle, 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.640 you don't know the cousins. Yeah, so I think friends. Yeah, 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.319 it's a conversation that's honestly come up so much, which 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.680 is interesting giving our kids at two. But I know 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.920 about all the mums are reading the same things, you know. 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.319 I think there was a viral Instagram posts probably within 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.200 the last year, where a girl hadn't been allowed to 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.120 go to sleepovers her whole life. So for her eighteenth birthday, 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.879 she had a sleepover and her girlfriends all said like, hey, 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.200 what was the reason that you weren't allowed to have 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.120 the sleepover? And she said, oh, it was because my 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.960 dad was sexually abused at a sleepover when he was 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.160 a kid, and he kind of had that rule. And 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.320 then what ended up happening is like a large majority 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.040 of the girls who were at the sleepover revealed that 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.000 they had actually been sexually assaulted in some way or 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.560 had some kind of sexual experience in some way at 0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.600 a sleepover, and so she was kind of like, wow, 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:55.080 Like I thought this was a really strict rule for 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.040 a very good reason, but like how common is that? Yeah, 0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.080 and she realized it was actually quite common. So so 0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.879 it was a big discussion. I mean, we're way off 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.200 from that, as you mentioned, Kell, but like it was 0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.239 a for a couple of weeks it was going off 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.040 in the group chat about like and it's so which 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.000 we just always talk about because we also just think 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.880 it's really interesting. Yeah, and some of my greatest memories 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.040 are at sleepovers and can so it's a hard rule 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.000 and things where you learn. Ye, let us know what 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.879 rules you had growing up. We actually had so many 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.600 funny shitter submissions that I had a chance to read, 0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.479 but I'll pop them on socials. My favorite one, though, 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.319 I just know from the top of my head, was 0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.400 someone had their best family friends. They made their children 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.440 like everyone in the household had to pooh before they 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.760 went to better about which I'm just like the logistics, 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.279 it just completely wild. So the other one was if 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.160 you had soup, you couldn't have water. You couldn't have 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:47.280 a water, or you couldn't have a beverage with your meal. Yeah, 0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.560 there's so many funny ones, so pop them up and 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:59.000 you can add your funny ones and share away. And 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.440 it's recommendation time. I'm Kelly mccaren. What have you got 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.879 for us? My recommendation is for anyone in the same 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.600 boat as me who child is going through a I 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:14.000 hate getting dressed stage rough gold is doing the same. Honestly, manic. 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.320 It is so wild, It is so upsetting in the morning, 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.200 and I'm just so sick of it. So I've come 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.000 up with a really good hack. Oh tell me, tell 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.439 me what I do at nighttime? Now is I put 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.920 him in his daycare clothes. This was a tip I 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.480 gave you episode ages ago about loll I think it 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.960 was about saving time or something. I think maybe I 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.719 was probably like, I don't want him to go to 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.960 daycare in his pajamas, and to be fair, I do 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.160 like him to look nice, so I wouldn't do this 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.680 on just a normal day. But I've realized I do 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:42.759 not care what he looks like at daycare. No, so 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.200 a tracksuit set with a singlet under the top, and 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.759 then obviously he's got a puffer in his bag. If 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.160 they're going outside and it gets cold, all I have 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.040 to do is pull the pants down a little bit 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:56.439 and the pulley off the pull up, and then under 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.320 that I've got like just an average nappy. Take that off, 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.439 chuck that over my shoulder, pull the pull up back 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.480 up and the pants so nothing actually ever has to 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.440 come off. He does screen through that, but it's a 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.520 lot bigger than actually getting dressed. That is so good 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.920 cal and he's nice and cozy because you know how 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:15.080 like such a first world problem. But in winter it's 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.480 so cold in the morning to get dressed. Oh I know, 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.600 I know, and if you have a shower in the morning, 0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:21.000 you're like, oh, I never want to get out, I 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:22.960 never want to get out, so nice and cozy just 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.400 to be able to keep your clothes on. Yeah. Great. 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.880 Thank you so much for joining us today. A reminder 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:32.200 that we are going to be taking the next couple 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.960 of weeks off to focus on season four. We're going 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.719 to come back bigger and better than ever. Don't forget, though, 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.640 to share the pod with other people so we can 0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.720 extend our group of lovely shitters and rate and review, 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.680 rate and review. 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