Speaker 1: We acknowledged the traditional custodians of the land. We're recording
Speaker 1: on today, those bloody movie marathons. My god was allowed exactly.
Speaker 1: No one should be allowed to the marathon that's going
Speaker 1: on there? What isn't going on there? I saw some
Speaker 1: stuff yuck exactly. We'll just leave it at that. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to eat, sleep, shit, repeat the podcast all
Speaker 1: about the madness that is motherhood and everything in between.
Speaker 1: I'm Kelly mccaron and I'm key ree Searls. It is
Speaker 1: so good to be back. We've had a little bit
Speaker 1: of deliberation, haven't we kel Well, can I say? It's
Speaker 1: just that it's been quite the kafuffle getting this episode.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just the story of our lives,
Speaker 1: the kerfuffle. I think it's very on brand for mums,
Speaker 1: like we are doing it tough, you know, like last
Speaker 1: week what happened. The kids weren't sick, No, the dog
Speaker 1: started vomiting up blood. And if it's not one thing,
Speaker 1: it's the other. But we did recall with this episode
Speaker 1: last week and my bloody mic didn't wo and it
Speaker 1: was a really good episode. So I really hope that
Speaker 1: we can get the magic back. How we will. We will.
Speaker 1: The first part of the episode will be different because
Speaker 1: it will it's been a few days, so we're going
Speaker 1: to have a different peak and pick probably, But we
Speaker 1: did want to ask you before we got into that,
Speaker 1: whether or not you, as our lovely listeners, are you
Speaker 1: interested in hearing about our picks and pits or are
Speaker 1: you just like, stop being so depressive and floppy, or
Speaker 1: also just we do want to know because I know
Speaker 1: that sometimes I could not care less about the host's
Speaker 1: live yes, lives. Yeah, when I'm listening to a podcast,
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, just get into the topic that
Speaker 1: I'm here for. However, that's I guess where time stamps
Speaker 1: are also helpful. Yeah, exactly, And I think it's a
Speaker 1: really cute way to start off the episode, Like sometimes
Speaker 1: you're going to the same thing as someone who might
Speaker 1: be listening. I get little messages after and I'm like,
Speaker 1: ding dinging, I'm not the only mum who's I'm going
Speaker 1: to doing it done right now or slaying if it's
Speaker 1: a good day. So is your pit different to what
Speaker 1: it was when we last recorded to this episode? I
Speaker 1: would say yes, because I think I was having a
Speaker 1: lot of guilt over the lack of patience. But last
Speaker 1: week I was so exhausted. I just had a really
Speaker 1: full on week of pod record So I had three
Speaker 1: different pod records and all the things that go with it,
Speaker 1: the socials, the preparation, the scripting, all of that. Apart
Speaker 1: from that, yeah, and then I had obviously my content
Speaker 1: creation stuff and it was just a big week of that,
Speaker 1: and so I was exhausted. So even when I typically
Speaker 1: would get my little rest in on my Thursday and
Speaker 1: Friday room nap time, I didn't get that. Oh usually
Speaker 1: up as well. Well, yeah I tried to or I
Speaker 1: rest like I literally watch TV or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm very important. The Friday, I was in shambles
Speaker 1: because we had to pack. We went away for the weekend,
Speaker 1: and it was just a lot the to do list,
Speaker 1: the to do list, and it's often like the mum
Speaker 1: or the primary current in the relationship, if you are
Speaker 1: in a relationship raising kids, it's like they have to
Speaker 1: kind of put all of that admin and stuff together.
Speaker 1: So the Friday for me was really stressful and I
Speaker 1: felt like I wasn't that patient. I was to a
Speaker 1: certain point, but then I'm like, I don't I let
Speaker 1: her sleep for bloody four hours, didn't I you would
Speaker 1: have paid for that that night. Yeah, we're way away though,
Speaker 1: because it didn't matter. That's what I said to myself.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's all right, let's take the hit
Speaker 1: and she can go to bed at ten, which she
Speaker 1: did and it was fine. But my peak was that
Speaker 1: Rue has finally taken a liking to television. I love
Speaker 1: that you've had the most beautiful weekend, Await, but that
Speaker 1: is still your peak of the week. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: TV loving club. It's honestly been so good. She's just
Speaker 1: at the stage now where before she could just kind
Speaker 1: of posh her on around me and blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the time now, when I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready and need to get out the door, the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm late is because I'm having to entertain her
Speaker 1: at the same time. So there would have been no
Speaker 1: way that I would have gotten anything done on that
Speaker 1: Friday morning had I not been able to sit her
Speaker 1: in front of the television and put Snail on the
Speaker 1: whale on for her to want nail in the world.
Speaker 1: That's her favor, isn't it. She gazed and gazed, amazed
Speaker 1: by it. All, and she said the whale. I feel
Speaker 1: so small. She loves Nail while she loves Zog. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I know I've recommended this a bunch of times, but
Speaker 1: ABC IVU, the Julia Donaldson series, it's slow TV. It's
Speaker 1: just like Zazzy approved, Zazi approved, we love as sod
Speaker 1: in the show notes, and I feel okay about it.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like, obviously, I want to just
Speaker 1: always cavey up when we're talking about television. I never
Speaker 1: judge any other parent for what they do. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for that. From my lived experience growing up as
Speaker 1: a TV kid, I just had a different feeling of
Speaker 1: how I wanted to raise ruin the type of television
Speaker 1: I want to give her, And it's slow based on
Speaker 1: what Zazzi recommended, But it just was so good to
Speaker 1: just have her sitting there. I knew she was safe,
Speaker 1: I knew she was entertained, and I run around and educated,
Speaker 1: and I could run around like a headless trip but
Speaker 1: actually get stuff done without trying to come up with
Speaker 1: different games. Yeah, I mean, Lenny tries to help me
Speaker 1: with all those sorts of tasks, but often that's not
Speaker 1: slows you down to it's not helpful. Yeah, he's trying
Speaker 1: to unpack the dishwasher. And then I was like, time
Speaker 1: for TV. But anyway, so I would say, actually that
Speaker 1: my peak is going to alleviate some of the pressure
Speaker 1: that I feel around my pit. It's like television will help.
Speaker 1: So I think in those times where I don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of patience, I might just need a five
Speaker 1: minute break boom sit or a half an hour break.
Speaker 1: I was to say five minutes, yeah, just to find
Speaker 1: the right show exactly. But yeah, I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, on Sunday, we actually sat down
Speaker 1: and watched sing as a family. Everyone in the city
Speaker 1: gets a shot at being a star in our singing competition.
Speaker 1: This staate just about to explode with major piggy power.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so cute. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it was really fun like to sit down, snacks, we
Speaker 1: gave her dinner. We just like photo past u while
Speaker 1: we're doing it and hanging out. But it was really nice,
Speaker 1: like I actually really enjoyed kind of the ritual of
Speaker 1: it and seeing her little face light up with all
Speaker 1: the different things. So, yeah, I'm into TV. She's into TV.
Speaker 1: It's helping our household helfs move. Yeah, definitely. I tried
Speaker 1: to get Lenn to watch that show. I was like,
Speaker 1: do you want to watch Ruu's favorite show? Hated it?
Speaker 1: The Snail appeared and he just went no, Well, do
Speaker 1: you know what? I realized, Snail on the Well is
Speaker 1: quite scary, Like they go out in the deep ocean,
Speaker 1: there's like a shark incident and there was just like
Speaker 1: big crashing waves. I'd be interested. I love water things too,
Speaker 1: you would honestly really like it. But on the weekend
Speaker 1: when we went away, we went away two couple friends
Speaker 1: they eat Oh my god. They were like, please do
Speaker 1: not show our children. Well. They wanted to put on
Speaker 1: Pepper Pin I've got a bigger version to pepper Pig
Speaker 1: because everyone says it's really rude, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we shan't be watching that. And that's what our
Speaker 1: little friend wanted to put on. But her mum was like,
Speaker 1: let Annie Ki choose because she knows I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit stricter with what I'm letting Rue watch. Anyway, so
Speaker 1: I put on Snail on the Way, and poor Ava
Speaker 1: she's like in tears because of the scary but so
Speaker 1: I'm like, I did not realize how terrifying my the
Speaker 1: show is, but because Rue read it as a book
Speaker 1: and then saw she wasn't scared. She's not scared at all.
Speaker 1: But AVA was like, what do you mean? And then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's put on Zog and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, let's put on dragons, and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: put on play school, put it on place. Sorry anyway,
Speaker 1: that's really yeah. It just reminded me before I had
Speaker 1: my own child. One year, I was like listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast and it was recommended anyone with kids or
Speaker 1: buying presents for kids. This book is so good. It's
Speaker 1: the perfect thing for all children. I really recommend it.
Speaker 1: I was like, watch me be Auntie of the Year.
Speaker 1: So I ordered a bunch of these books and then
Speaker 1: gifted them to a lot of the children in my life.
Speaker 1: So Christmas which is also very unlike me, very organized,
Speaker 1: but it's basically about this little boy whose brother gets
Speaker 1: hit by a bus and dies and then he gets
Speaker 1: a cat. But like in the book, there's like the
Speaker 1: blood on the ground and it is graphic and just confronting,
Speaker 1: and my friend's trying to tell me politely because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: just seven, So enjoy his little book that Auntie got him.
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, we hit it, we'll throw it out.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's hilarious. We've got to find out
Speaker 1: what the book was. I'll put it in the show
Speaker 1: notes as an unrecommendation. Yeah, yeah, a reverse recommendation. Over
Speaker 1: to you kel what we all let's start with Pitt.
Speaker 1: What was your pit? My pit was that I was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with a brain aneurysm. So I went to get
Speaker 1: an MRI Wednesday, two weeks ago. I was like, I've
Speaker 1: got to have a bloody a mari and whatnot. Anyway,
Speaker 1: went to get the m R. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have actually expect anything to come up. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: make jokes, but you don't think procedure or it's just
Speaker 1: a checklist to make sure you know, which is what
Speaker 1: I told myself, what everyone else told me about it.
Speaker 1: So I had my doctor appointment on the Thursday and
Speaker 1: she was like, clear of this, clear of that, clear
Speaker 1: of that. Now they have found a small suspected brain aneurysm.
Speaker 1: And I burst into tears because growing up with my
Speaker 1: dad as a paramedic, I was like, well, I would
Speaker 1: just hear these horror stories about my dad just going
Speaker 1: to someone with a really piercing headache and they literally
Speaker 1: just dropped dead. Yeah, because their aneurysm burst. My doctor,
Speaker 1: she's so lovely. She was like, no, no, that's because
Speaker 1: it goes undetected and it's huge. Yeah, it does burst.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I might not even be that.
Speaker 1: It could have just been like a dodgy scam. But
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm kind of thinking these machines are
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't think that scans
Speaker 1: it's dodgy. Yeah, But anyway, So I then had to
Speaker 1: go get a ct angiogram, and all of this is
Speaker 1: very terrifying for someone that hates medical stuff. I hate needles.
Speaker 1: They never confined a vein. I had to have this
Speaker 1: giintass canulas shoved in my arm. I'm there by myself
Speaker 1: just sobbing. It was just awful, awful anyway, I think
Speaker 1: it was. Then two days later it was confirmed that
Speaker 1: it's indeed a small brain aneurysm. So I've got to
Speaker 1: go see a neurosurgeon and they have to go to
Speaker 1: a panel and discuss what to do. I guess whether
Speaker 1: or not they just monitor it or if they clamp it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which the idea of being thirty five and having brain
Speaker 1: surgerat I know I'm fine, i know I'm not going
Speaker 1: to die. It's just very confronting and stressful. And especially
Speaker 1: when the receptionist on the phone when I was booking
Speaker 1: to see the neuro search and she was so lovely
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, Kelly, I've got you at
Speaker 1: the top of my pile. Oh Darlan, this is so stressful.
Speaker 1: You're so young, what a big deal? Like she was
Speaker 1: just so lovely. But also then that made me really
Speaker 1: upset because I guess I'm so used to people saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you're fine, you're fine. Yeah, Yeah. She met you at
Speaker 1: your concern and gave you Also, maybe it made me
Speaker 1: more concerned because she was like, this is really serious.
Speaker 1: It's going to have to go to a panel, Like
Speaker 1: you know, you're very young to have this. But sometimes
Speaker 1: it's nice when someone's up front with you, because it's
Speaker 1: like how you said going into the MRI, thinking everyone's
Speaker 1: saying to you, it's just a checklist, we're just checking
Speaker 1: off the list, blah blah blah. Then you're more shocked
Speaker 1: when they find something wrong. Yeah, and I'm falling to
Speaker 1: bit basically, not to say that you know anyone's journey
Speaker 1: or health problem that comes up is you know, more
Speaker 1: serious based on whether you have kids or not. But
Speaker 1: I think as a mum, when something happens to you
Speaker 1: to do with your health, there's an added layer of concern, worry,
Speaker 1: anxiety around. I said to my mum, I was, I
Speaker 1: just don't want to leave Land year and I know
Speaker 1: I won't. I know that I'm fine, but that's just
Speaker 1: obviously my biggest concern because I do not want that
Speaker 1: bloke growing up with just Luke God anyway. So that
Speaker 1: is my pit and my peak is people around me.
Speaker 1: I just love my friends and family and that you
Speaker 1: will meet me where I need you to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you will understand that a sense of humor is
Speaker 1: the only way that I know how to ever get
Speaker 1: through anything. Yeah. So a couple of people that I
Speaker 1: told they were like, well, Firstly, when I told Hannah,
Speaker 1: Hannah was like, oh well, thank god you're not bloody terminal.
Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with the theatrics as you were. And
Speaker 1: then like my girlfriend Emma was like, oh cool, So
Speaker 1: that explains the doc Martins, you know, because girls that
Speaker 1: I play in it, but they were like, oh, how
Speaker 1: did you get con? I was like this, And then
Speaker 1: we're playing and I fell over for the fourth time
Speaker 1: in one game, and then this other girl fell over
Speaker 1: and they were like, what's her excuses? I don't know
Speaker 1: ban aneurysm do they don't. And then even things like
Speaker 1: he's like, good luck this morning because she knew I
Speaker 1: was having a skin and I just sit back like
Speaker 1: one of those hospital selfies where you're like, just sat
Speaker 1: in my little gap with the canula in my arm,
Speaker 1: just like ma'am. That's all. I said that I was scared,
Speaker 1: and he wrote back, Oh, you look really pretty, you
Speaker 1: look really hot, So like I mean, so I think
Speaker 1: just like the people around me. Just good sense of humor,
Speaker 1: being able to make me laugh one d All of
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff is definitely a good peak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before we get into the episode, we are having a
Speaker 1: little break for a couple of weeks between seasons. We
Speaker 1: realized that season three has been going for sixteen episodes.
Speaker 1: That just seems like a little bit too long. I
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't want to get into the OC territory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a twenty six episode. Yeah, it's like the next season.
Speaker 1: And also we're chasing our tails a little bit at
Speaker 1: the moment, and we think that we just want to regroup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have a look at the show. We had our one
Speaker 1: year anniversary a couple of weeks ago. Now, Pari Hippopparie
Speaker 1: was it's just a good time to kind of like
Speaker 1: take check of what's going on, make some changes, and
Speaker 1: then launch into our fourth season. Yeah. Fuck yeah. For
Speaker 1: rear Gyar, I sent through some like the top line
Speaker 1: concepts the other day. I was like, what do you think,
Speaker 1: just knowing that she would be like, oh, I always
Speaker 1: am my content queen. True. True, I'm not always like
Speaker 1: that with you. Sometimes I'm just like, oh god, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: doesn't like my suggestions. No, they're just they're too practical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about ghosts. Yeah, I'm like, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Then on the pod today we are talking all about
Speaker 1: strict rules you had growing up. Key can't relate, He
Speaker 1: can't relate, so I had to outsource my rules. They're
Speaker 1: so funny. Luckily, I've got good friends who care about
Speaker 1: me and we're happy to offer up their trauma for
Speaker 1: me to share. On the postage, I love the niche
Speaker 1: of like childhood trauma that isn't really trauma. No, guys,
Speaker 1: there are actual problems in the world, but it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: we probably have like a little bit of trauma from it,
Speaker 1: but it's not real. It's the sort of stuff you
Speaker 1: work through with your therapist. Didn't have a real fuddle
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, yeah, it's funny because Kelly, you grew
Speaker 1: up in a house that was so strict. It is,
Speaker 1: especially if someone doesn't know me that well, they'll just
Speaker 1: be like, that is so off brand that you had
Speaker 1: a really strict upbringing because I'm a bit of a
Speaker 1: wild bit of gear in some ways, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: likes it if you will. When we met at Chopo,
Speaker 1: if you had to told me half the rules that
Speaker 1: you have growing up, would have been like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's not on brand because I was the
Speaker 1: girl running around drunk with possless chaps and that was
Speaker 1: such a vibe. Though. But I think as people get
Speaker 1: to know me more, I have a fear of authority.
Speaker 1: I get scared, like even asking different people things, and
Speaker 1: I am a stickler, like I do enjoy a rule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do. Actually, even with like lend in the way
Speaker 1: that you kind of do raise him like, you know,
Speaker 1: you can see that you've had a bit of a
Speaker 1: bit of rules in your life. Ye yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: quite strict with the rules that I do have with him,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, which given his two when I enforce them,
Speaker 1: oh my word, it's like I've tortured him. The bottom
Speaker 1: lip came out on the weekend, huge, big fat tears
Speaker 1: running down his face. He was so upset he hit
Speaker 1: me in the face and got in trouble. So they
Speaker 1: should know the hitting is where I draw the line,
Speaker 1: hitting me or hitting anyone else. Even though he thinks
Speaker 1: he's been funny most of the time, it's not. Actually
Speaker 1: the militia. Why do they think they're being funny? It
Speaker 1: is so honestly, it's such a head fuck when they're
Speaker 1: like fully like slapping you and then laughing after it,
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, what kind of a sick joke
Speaker 1: is this? Yeah, your little psychopath. Anyway, we're going a
Speaker 1: bit off topic here. Taught me through your strict upbringing.
Speaker 1: Cal So for context, my dad was one of four boys, yeap,
Speaker 1: and they were so naughty. They were so naughty, like
Speaker 1: he stole his dad's cigarettes at seven, shut up, and
Speaker 1: we'd like go around the corner for a little path
Speaker 1: las seven. It's just like if I look at a
Speaker 1: seven year old now and imagine that, I could not imagine.
Speaker 1: I get cranky at Ashley, seven year old for like
Speaker 1: sneaking off with chocolates and hiding as room and eating chocolates.
Speaker 1: I was like, you left the wrappers in there, Bally,
Speaker 1: how very dare you? Meanwhile, my dad's oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's not even you know, these days the seven year
Speaker 1: olds might be on the vapes a bit of grape
Speaker 1: or light sheep. Back then, they probably didn't even have
Speaker 1: the ment boles or the less aggressive cigarettes. Trying to
Speaker 1: watch you explain cigarettes because you've never smoked, have you?
Speaker 1: I beg your pardon. I have had a cigarette in
Speaker 1: my time, just when you said to the less offensive cigarrettes,
Speaker 1: I have smoked a cigarette before. Okay, sorry, I was
Speaker 1: young once. You just don't strike me as a smoker,
Speaker 1: though not with my father. You know what we had
Speaker 1: in our household in the garage, what a lung? A lung,
Speaker 1: A giant poster of a lung full of all of
Speaker 1: the cancer and stuff that happens when you smoke. He
Speaker 1: was a paramedic, so that makes sense. That was the thing.
Speaker 1: My mom, for context also one day said to me,
Speaker 1: because they won't let me go to a party, and
Speaker 1: she was like, hell, the place that you want to
Speaker 1: go to he found a girl only a little bit
Speaker 1: older than you, passed out, beaten up when they were
Speaker 1: called to the job. So I think it's just it
Speaker 1: was an accumulation of different things. Hey, that is such
Speaker 1: a unique experience though, because you grew up in a
Speaker 1: small town. Your dad's a paramedic, he would be going
Speaker 1: to these parties that these teenagers are out, you know,
Speaker 1: people who have drunk too much. Yeah, in that case,
Speaker 1: so I feel like you just got stitched up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big stitch up there because your grandparents weren't strict at all,
Speaker 1: and your mom well, well she was a well she
Speaker 1: was not there. She dipped out a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Her strictness was so strict that she was like, raise yourself,
Speaker 1: raised yourself, go on, do it, you go. I counted,
Speaker 1: and the only rules that I could remember were two rules.
Speaker 1: Don't cross the road without an adult. This was obviously
Speaker 1: when I was like a child, like you know, primary school.
Speaker 1: I hope it wasn't now or not at the traffic lights.
Speaker 1: And I remember when I broke that rule, I've like
Speaker 1: had this guilt for months. I was like sick with it.
Speaker 1: I remember that was the first time that I felt
Speaker 1: what I then would find out later was guilt or
Speaker 1: anxiety movie both for months because you had crossed the
Speaker 1: road not at the lights. Yeah, and without an adult.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, but I was in a really no,
Speaker 1: I actually completely get it. And I told you, and
Speaker 1: I said to the other older kids that I'd crossed
Speaker 1: the road. I was like, what was that saying that
Speaker 1: was on the ad? Look watch see oh look left,
Speaker 1: look right, look left again, whatever it was. And I
Speaker 1: crossed it and said to the big kids, don't worry.
Speaker 1: And then I repeated that saying back. And then I
Speaker 1: had even now second hand embarrassment for myself. I just
Speaker 1: started sweating on your behalf. The other rule I had
Speaker 1: was don't drink soft drink before midday, which seems like
Speaker 1: a valid rule, but I was a teenager. I was
Speaker 1: allowed to do whatever they want. I mean, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: buy me like alcohol or anything, but a lot of
Speaker 1: the time they would like drive me to my friend's
Speaker 1: house and then we would like go to a party
Speaker 1: and like get alcohol. Or there was one time I
Speaker 1: told my grandparents I was staying at say, like Abby's house,
Speaker 1: and we snuck over to this boy's house and like
Speaker 1: drank there. But then the mums found out and they
Speaker 1: came over in the morning. We got into so much trouble,
Speaker 1: but they didn't tell where grandparents because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to worry them. And I was like, yes, so everyone
Speaker 1: got grounded except me. Oh, but your grandparents probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have even grounded you. They would have been like, ah no,
Speaker 1: they would have been really disappointed because they thought I
Speaker 1: was quite cool. Weren't. But I was like, you were
Speaker 1: naughty when I Wasn't it naughty because I didn't have rules.
Speaker 1: That's why as a parent, I think I will be
Speaker 1: quite controlled the fun. It's about like building trusts are
Speaker 1: important learning, Like I understand that rules will be broken,
Speaker 1: but I think that you need you need structure as
Speaker 1: a young adult. And as we talked about in the
Speaker 1: Spoiling episode, boundaries, they're so important at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's for your safety. Like I remember this
Speaker 1: when I art sourced to my girlfriends. You know that
Speaker 1: we got kind of a bit of a convo coming
Speaker 1: up about you know, how strict people's parents were, and
Speaker 1: my girlfriend Steph, I think, who is a shitter. She
Speaker 1: is very supportive in many ways. I think she listens.
Speaker 1: She also has four kids, so who has the time.
Speaker 1: Her mom was the best. She was kind of like
Speaker 1: a second mum to me growing up, well, a first mum. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't Anna, this is our dark human that comes
Speaker 1: out when we're having a silly day. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that the sh is you have to She was awesome
Speaker 1: and that she just would drop us off at parties.
Speaker 1: But she would say, girls, it doesn't matter what time
Speaker 1: of the night or morning wherever you are. If you
Speaker 1: are unsafe, if you don't have a lift home, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, you call me and I will come and
Speaker 1: pick you up. And she said, I don't care if
Speaker 1: you're drunk, you call me and I'll pick you up.
Speaker 1: So it's the best rule. She was the best, Like
Speaker 1: she would pick us up on we'd be sideways, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't get in trouble, but she'd pick us up so
Speaker 1: that we were safe and she would bring us home
Speaker 1: to her house. I love that rule, so it was
Speaker 1: good because you pass out, you pass out somewhere and
Speaker 1: getting someone's card that they've been drinking or exactly, and
Speaker 1: that was her big thing. She didn't want us getting
Speaker 1: into cars with boys who had been drinking. So shout
Speaker 1: out to Janet. But I think sometimes it's like rules
Speaker 1: but giving them. I mean, we'll get to the lady
Speaker 1: when the kids are bloody teenagers. But the healthiest kids
Speaker 1: I saw growing up were the ones that had rules
Speaker 1: but also had a bit of we're given a bit
Speaker 1: of rope. Yeah, Whereas I would say that my parents,
Speaker 1: I was the eldest as well, so I was the
Speaker 1: test run child, A bit of a stitch up, being
Speaker 1: the eldest kid, such a stitch up. I did a
Speaker 1: thing on my own in Instagram months ago where I
Speaker 1: asked people to share their oldest child trauma. Their responses.
Speaker 1: Some of them were actually so bad in terms of
Speaker 1: I can't believe that some parents did stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But the thing about that, which is even more of
Speaker 1: a stitch up with having siblings is actually watching it
Speaker 1: play out in front of your different get away with absolutelyness. Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember we had jen on. Remember when Jen gave
Speaker 1: the example Jen you're shout out to gen. She's our
Speaker 1: little guardian angel with us trying to handle our kids
Speaker 1: in their tantrums. But she said her kind of skills
Speaker 1: and how to navigate tantrums changed over the course of
Speaker 1: her three kids or whatever. And there was at one
Speaker 1: time at the dinner table and her kid was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what got to the naughty corner? And She's like, I
Speaker 1: have changed, And she said the way that I parent
Speaker 1: my fourth kid, who yeah, completely different, the stuff that
Speaker 1: I would watch my siblings get away with. The first
Speaker 1: time my parents found me drunk, they made me get
Speaker 1: up and go to work the next day, even though
Speaker 1: I had been vomiting all night, and they did not
Speaker 1: speak to me. And when I tell you they didn't
Speaker 1: speak to me, I mean they did not speak to me.
Speaker 1: Mom for a week, Dad for a month. They froze
Speaker 1: you out, completely complete. I got chills from her because
Speaker 1: they were so disappointed in me. You ought to know
Speaker 1: what they did the first time. I'm not mad, I'm disappointed.
Speaker 1: It literally fucking worse, isn't it. And I was never
Speaker 1: allowed to go to parties after that. When my brother
Speaker 1: did it, my dad picked him up. Was sending us
Speaker 1: messages going, oh no, your brother's drunk, and he stayed
Speaker 1: up with him all night because he was so afraid
Speaker 1: that he was going to apphixiate on his own vomit.
Speaker 1: And then the next day he got up early to
Speaker 1: cook him a big like bacon and eggs, joking because
Speaker 1: he would have been so hungover. Must be nice, Like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding the sexism? Yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything,
Speaker 1: but you went there. Yeah, well no, because my sister
Speaker 1: got off easy as well. Oh so it wasn't it
Speaker 1: was just a youth. Yeah. I used to love it though,
Speaker 1: because she was such a goodie two shoes compared to me.
Speaker 1: I loved it when she did something naughty, like one
Speaker 1: time she didn't even have a license and she crashed
Speaker 1: a car. What And she told me, I know, And
Speaker 1: I was like, I had the biggest smile because I'm like,
Speaker 1: we better go tell mom and dad. Can I be
Speaker 1: there when you tell them? It's okay, it's okay, everything's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And I'm literally in the next room listening,
Speaker 1: just like yes, yes, yeah, justice for Quel. I've never
Speaker 1: crashed a car without a license. Yeah, only with a license, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: talk me through some of the rules that some of
Speaker 1: the rules. Every single facet of my life there were
Speaker 1: strange rules. And I say strange because they were strange.
Speaker 1: Like I've always been very weird about meat and texture
Speaker 1: with food. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I had to sit
Speaker 1: at the dining room table and drink my glass of
Speaker 1: milk with dinner. And I had to sit there, imagine
Speaker 1: trying to drink like you're already weird about textures, forced
Speaker 1: to eat chunky meat with gristle because we didn't have
Speaker 1: that much money, so it's not like they were buying
Speaker 1: primo meat. Yeah yeah, and then finish a glass of
Speaker 1: warm by that point, milk that's been sitting there. Oh,
Speaker 1: that'd be the word. I'd take the gristle over the milk.
Speaker 1: D Okay. So we went all to watch any TV
Speaker 1: unless it was the weekend. But even then, on the
Speaker 1: weekend it would be movies. And this was back in
Speaker 1: the day where there was a VCR. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: would have pre watched the movie. Even PG they might
Speaker 1: pre watch the movie. Wow, okay, I want to cut
Speaker 1: out anything. So when you were taping it, you'd pause it. Oh,
Speaker 1: so they'd be taping it as they're watching it. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So when you get to watch it
Speaker 1: there you're like, there's chee. I remember there was one
Speaker 1: that I just thought that it was a happy ending,
Speaker 1: and then as an adult, I found out that someone
Speaker 1: had died at the end of this film that they're
Speaker 1: just like, cut it out. That person passed away in
Speaker 1: that film. Wait, the doc didn't go to live on
Speaker 1: a farm. Yes, sir, so very strict about TV. We're
Speaker 1: allowed to watch the news with mum and dad, which
Speaker 1: seems alarming looking back, like I feel like the news
Speaker 1: so scary. It's also so much worse. But they were like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to watch anything, it's this has to
Speaker 1: be educational. They also knew that as if we would.
Speaker 1: And on the weekends even it wasn't like we could
Speaker 1: watch South Park or The Simpsons or Home and Away. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Everything was absolutely not It had to be a pre
Speaker 1: approved show or like Nickelodeon. For someone that is like
Speaker 1: has a lot of pop culture references, it's very surprising
Speaker 1: considering there was like decades of pop culture references you
Speaker 1: missed just I have. Like last week I was recording
Speaker 1: for the Spill with Laura Brodneck and she said something
Speaker 1: about Pretty Woman. I'm like, oh, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: What so I have a lot of pop culture references,
Speaker 1: But I could quote a lot of that film just
Speaker 1: from I've got a really good memory. So even if
Speaker 1: I've just seen little snippets of something, Yeah, actually, like mistake,
Speaker 1: it's huge, Like you would know that from because it's
Speaker 1: so popular from the movie you were on commission, right, Ah, yes,
Speaker 1: big mistake, big huge Yeah. And I know that whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I know the plot, the general plot. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the movie. Yeah, okay, I mean to be fair,
Speaker 1: a movie about a prostitute being as a kid. As
Speaker 1: a kid, I get that. Probably not allowed to watch it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so no TV unless it was weirdly pre approved,
Speaker 1: and they would actually enforce it on the weekends by
Speaker 1: locking us outdoors in the morning unless it was pouring
Speaker 1: with rain. Locked outside in the morning, we could drink
Speaker 1: from the hose if we were thirsty, stop it, not
Speaker 1: the garden hose, the garden hose, if we were thirsty.
Speaker 1: Who knows what they were doing inside, probably watching probably
Speaker 1: ready Simpsons, probably watching the Simpsons and eating all the
Speaker 1: foods that we weren't allowed to eat because they were
Speaker 1: also so strict with junk food, no way. We were
Speaker 1: allowed one can of soft drink on a Friday night,
Speaker 1: and me and my brother Emma never liked soft drink,
Speaker 1: but we'd sit there and like try to savor it
Speaker 1: for as long as possible, yeah, so that the other
Speaker 1: person would then have to watch. I always won. He'd
Speaker 1: have to like watch me just sip from it afterwards,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, let's have a race to see
Speaker 1: who can drink it the fast, but I just pretend
Speaker 1: and then be like, I'm just still really enjoying my
Speaker 1: Coca cola. Yeah, and you know, like one little bowl
Speaker 1: of chips or something. Yeah. Yeah. So we weren't allowed
Speaker 1: any packeted food or those sorts of things. Oh wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very strict with food. Not healthy though, it was just
Speaker 1: I guess a budgeting thing, and like I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: the gristly meat at dinner time would be considered healthy.
Speaker 1: Although this was back in the day when that probably was.
Speaker 1: I think it was. I ate a lot of meat
Speaker 1: and three bag a lot of mince with a chewy bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guarantee that our parents or your grandparents, they were
Speaker 1: like if we got a meat pie mashed potato and peas.
Speaker 1: They would be like, this is very healthy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: fish fingers, fish fingers, so many fish fingers, so many fish.
Speaker 1: Cheese sauce. Did you ever get cheese sauce? No, I
Speaker 1: watched it. It's like milk cheese, milk cheese. It's healthy
Speaker 1: exactly to get that chat, I got to get that
Speaker 1: dairy with the junk food thing. We didn't have McDonald's
Speaker 1: in the town that I grew up here. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it would be four birthdays, but it'd be cold because
Speaker 1: Dad would have to drive to a few towns away
Speaker 1: to actually get it by the time it came back.
Speaker 1: Or occasionally on holidays we might pull into a McDonald's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we just it was like the jackpot. We were
Speaker 1: so excited. Sleepovers were very hit or miss, Like I
Speaker 1: was allowed to go to slumber parties generally, yeah, which
Speaker 1: are honor reflection, they're the bad ones. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about slumber parties and yeah, so
Speaker 1: in high school, they were very selective about whose house
Speaker 1: I could go to, which is kind of rude to
Speaker 1: the other parents if you think about it, well, I
Speaker 1: do think if you're going to say no sleep it
Speaker 1: has to be a blanket rule, otherwise we'll cause some
Speaker 1: friction with the relationships as well. We had to go
Speaker 1: to church every Sunday, and I had to go to
Speaker 1: Sunday school, which I hated with a passion. I hated
Speaker 1: every single thing about it. As someone who I was
Speaker 1: very shy, not religious, hated church and all of the
Speaker 1: activities as well. They were so into the activities. So
Speaker 1: I was doing gymnastics, singing, drama, piano, netball, athletics, but
Speaker 1: I had to practice all of them. So Dad would
Speaker 1: take me to the sports fields and just like make
Speaker 1: me do long jumps over and over and over again,
Speaker 1: and he'd sit there and watch me. He'd lay back
Speaker 1: and listen as if I was really good while I
Speaker 1: was practicing the piano. I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: been that good, but he'd just enjoying the fruits of
Speaker 1: my labor because obviously all of these activities would have
Speaker 1: cost a lot of money. Like, I just don't know
Speaker 1: why I was doing so many activities all the time,
Speaker 1: because I probably didn't really like doing them that much.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really allowed to do stuff or go to
Speaker 1: parties or like I was bullied in primary school, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't invited to that much, and then in high
Speaker 1: school I wasn't allowed. And I also lived really far
Speaker 1: from the school I went to. That's right. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I couldn't just be like, oh, let's go to the
Speaker 1: mall or let's go do this all it had to
Speaker 1: be a pre plant. Yeah, okay, so yeah, we just
Speaker 1: got locked outside. We were very creative. I think that's
Speaker 1: why you're so crafty. I always say this. I think
Speaker 1: that's a really good thing that's coming out of it.
Speaker 1: You're an amazing reader and you're super crafty, Like you
Speaker 1: can keep yourself very entertained. Oh, I could entertain myself.
Speaker 1: If there was an apocalypse and I was the last
Speaker 1: woman on Earth, I would be fine. I would entertain
Speaker 1: myself to the dawn of time. That's the thing, right.
Speaker 1: This is also why I have such an aversion to
Speaker 1: TV or having TV being so big, is because the
Speaker 1: main way in which I can get myself to calm
Speaker 1: down and rest is by watching TV. Because I watch
Speaker 1: so much of it. Growing up, I had a TV
Speaker 1: in my room always, which is horrifying to me. On reflection,
Speaker 1: do you have one in your room now? No? I
Speaker 1: have a rule like, no TV in my room because
Speaker 1: I want that to be very separate, like the living
Speaker 1: room is watching and sex or sleep. But I do
Speaker 1: get just like, actually, I'm so full of shit. I
Speaker 1: lie in my bed all the time. I do work,
Speaker 1: but I do like going to a hotel when there's
Speaker 1: a TV in the room, but then it's a luxury
Speaker 1: in trees. Yeah, but see, I think definitely the kind
Speaker 1: of rules you have as a child enforce how self
Speaker 1: sufficient you are as an adult. With my dad being
Speaker 1: such an angry man, no showers at nighttime after a
Speaker 1: certain time because of the pipes. They could have woken
Speaker 1: him up. But he always told me that if I
Speaker 1: dared get my belly button pierced, that he would get
Speaker 1: players and rip it out, And I genuinely was fearful
Speaker 1: about that, which is so unhinged. Did you get your
Speaker 1: belly button pair of size? Yes? I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure. And then I couldn't keep it a secret
Speaker 1: because I just couldn't keep it at you. That's why
Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, the fear of authority couldn't keep it
Speaker 1: a secret. And of course he didn't rip it out
Speaker 1: of my belly button with pliers. He just like glared
Speaker 1: at me and then maybe didn't speak to me for
Speaker 1: a day. That's the thing though, as like what that
Speaker 1: teaches me is like saying things like that it's bad
Speaker 1: because they're probably going to do it anyway, and then
Speaker 1: when they realized that the consequence that you said you
Speaker 1: were going to implement that you don't. For instance, I
Speaker 1: was petrified of my mum about the crossing the road thing,
Speaker 1: and I had all of the guilt around it for
Speaker 1: months and when I finally blurted out one day, like
Speaker 1: I crossed the road without an adult and not at
Speaker 1: a crossing and her response was, oh, that's fine, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so I can do it, so
Speaker 1: there's no consequence, Like that was a big hard moment
Speaker 1: for me, like as a kid, like, oh, there's actually
Speaker 1: not really any even for my two rules. Yea, even
Speaker 1: for my two rules. And I also think like it's
Speaker 1: once again coming back to boundaries but also having open communication,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I will just say absolutely no tattoos
Speaker 1: until you're eighteen at least. If you really want a piercing,
Speaker 1: I mean, let me know and I'll take you to
Speaker 1: get it if you really want, because piercing don't bother me.
Speaker 1: Your body. Yeah, they close up, and honestly, you'll probably
Speaker 1: be a lot more lenient with tattoos because you've got them. No,
Speaker 1: I'll definitely have the eighteen, and I'd like to go
Speaker 1: just so I feel like, let him get anything really aggressive. Well,
Speaker 1: I just feel like everyone says this in their first time.
Speaker 1: They are so scared because it's such a scary environment.
Speaker 1: And tattoo artists are always like, go biggers because you
Speaker 1: don't want to get it, like retouch later on blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then you're like, oh, okay, and then
Speaker 1: you end up getting something, your first tattoo ends up
Speaker 1: being bigger than you wanted, and you're just like hate
Speaker 1: not hate it. But I think like it's really important
Speaker 1: to go with someone and have a friend be like, no, No,
Speaker 1: that's what she wants. She's been thinking about it for
Speaker 1: a year and a half. That's the size she wants it,
Speaker 1: that's the color she wants it. Do it how she
Speaker 1: wants cannot be a split decision either. I mean, really
Speaker 1: like one guy said to me, this one on my arm,
Speaker 1: where is it? It's thin? But he said to me,
Speaker 1: I can't go any thinner than that. Have you seen
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, clearly he wasn't very good at his job.
Speaker 1: He thought that that's what looked best. So like, I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. Is like I want to go
Speaker 1: with rue if she wants to get something so that
Speaker 1: she doesn't get talked into getting something shit that she
Speaker 1: doesn't want. That's massive, you know, big old tramp stamp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're actually back in so obay. Yeah right tro. I
Speaker 1: don't know if this comes across as laced with judgment,
Speaker 1: because I genuinely don't mean it to. Yeah, if Lenny
Speaker 1: wants a tattoo, I'm gonna be filthy. Really I made
Speaker 1: that skin. Yeah, but that's their I made him the
Speaker 1: biggest piece of advice or something that I was like
Speaker 1: so into recently as my girlfriend Sarah, Sarah, she is
Speaker 1: a massive shitter. She was like, I love my dad
Speaker 1: so much because he always said I am raising you
Speaker 1: to let you go off into the world, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm raising you to do the things that you want
Speaker 1: to do and make the decisions that make you happy.
Speaker 1: I wow, does we dare he go and get something
Speaker 1: on it? It doesn't mean that you get control over
Speaker 1: anything in his life. He is growing into a person
Speaker 1: you are going to shape him in a certain way,
Speaker 1: but then it's his life to lead hands down. How
Speaker 1: many times over the next couple of decades are you
Speaker 1: going to have to talk me off the ledge? Oh,
Speaker 1: I've got enough self awareness? Really struggle with that because
Speaker 1: a big part of me does think of him as mine,
Speaker 1: I know. And I think even with boys and mums,
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of an added thing
Speaker 1: when people talk about like nightmare mother in law's. I
Speaker 1: think we could already get guilty guilty about your holidays
Speaker 1: with me, Lenny, A stupid girl friend, A boyfriend's not coming.
Speaker 1: I can't stand them. I'm taking you. I'll pay for
Speaker 1: your tickets, not them. I would love to go on
Speaker 1: holiday with my kids. I know they went to Cullen.
Speaker 1: She's the editor I think of like l Australia. Now.
Speaker 1: She does this thing it's called like twelve z E's.
Speaker 1: So she's got three boys and every time they turn twelve,
Speaker 1: she does a one on one holiday with them and
Speaker 1: it's like they's Jewish? Is that for their bar mitzvah? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think she's Jewish. Oh okay, that's really cute.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was really cute. It's like a
Speaker 1: ride of passage kind of thing, and she's like, we
Speaker 1: get a hotel room together, and she's just like, it's
Speaker 1: that last time before they like turn into a teenage boy.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really like weld enough to
Speaker 1: really froth on that sort of thing. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: a really cool memory, right, I really love that too. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've gone on a massive tangent. Should we talk about
Speaker 1: the rules keys friends had, the ones I had to outsource? Okay,
Speaker 1: So Chuckles said that he was forced to have a
Speaker 1: nap every Sunday afternoon, which I think is out standing. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he did say that, like he didn't really it was resleep,
Speaker 1: but it was like forced to rest, which I actually
Speaker 1: do appreciate. I really think I'm gonna implement that because
Speaker 1: I think that rest is so important. Yeah, but also
Speaker 1: it's just like I need to rest sometimes. I want
Speaker 1: to lie on my phone for an hour. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I need to quote unquote rest. No alcohol in high school,
Speaker 1: and if they didn't have any alcohol throughout the whole
Speaker 1: of high school, they got whatever car they wanted. And
Speaker 1: she did it. That's genius. She did it, and she
Speaker 1: was really good at high school like she focused on
Speaker 1: her grade. She would go to the parties, but she
Speaker 1: would not be one of the ones that were shrunk. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I do like this rule. I love that. But I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this to other day. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we'll have to worry about that because they're saying
Speaker 1: that the newer generations they don't party or they don't
Speaker 1: drink alcohol. Boring anyway, no dances till grade ten, which
Speaker 1: I think is warranted. No discos, are you joking? Seedy
Speaker 1: stuff goes down at those dances. Oh oh goodness, A disco? Okay, Hell,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that. You going up in a small town,
Speaker 1: maybe your discos were a little bit more PG than
Speaker 1: the ones that were happening, and the ones that I
Speaker 1: was going to, some of them were a bit dodge.
Speaker 1: But you can't miss out on the disco. It's well
Speaker 1: you looked forward to. Well, I think primary school discos
Speaker 1: are different. I'm talking high school, like grade eight, grade nine.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The other thing was like those bloody movie marathons.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend was allowed exactly, No one should be allowed
Speaker 1: to movie marathon. What's going on there? What isn't going
Speaker 1: on there? I saw some stuff. Fuck exactly. We'll just
Speaker 1: leave it at that. This one's really funny and niche
Speaker 1: because my friend's dad had to get up really early
Speaker 1: on the morning for work, so no one was allowed
Speaker 1: to call the house after five pm. Because dad used
Speaker 1: to have to get up so early for work. I
Speaker 1: remember him losing his mind for people calling quote unquote
Speaker 1: so late and it would be five point fifteen pm.
Speaker 1: The other one that my girlfriend said was like no
Speaker 1: TV during the week and then on the weekends it
Speaker 1: was strictly ABC a boring channel. If you will, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, singer shout out to the ABC. Though I'm
Speaker 1: not boring and they're not. They own Bluey did they not?
Speaker 1: So true? Show your snail show. The other one that
Speaker 1: I thought was pretty funny is that my parents always
Speaker 1: wanted to drop me off and pick me up from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and they rarely let me go with someone else, so
Speaker 1: like even if a friend's mum was driving her to
Speaker 1: the same place. Not great for carbon emission. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: was like the early two thousands. Yeah, well it wasn't
Speaker 1: It was a live environment was fine. Yeah, yeah, climate
Speaker 1: change was a myth. Now I actually did do something
Speaker 1: because I felt bad. I thought oh, I'm not dropping
Speaker 1: the ball because you know, I had a fucked up upbringing.
Speaker 1: I'm not really bringing anything to the table because I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I could go a list of fifty rules,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk a whole episodes. So
Speaker 1: I thought, all right, I had a chat with Charlie
Speaker 1: and we came up with some rules that we're going
Speaker 1: to have for RU. I love this so much. Okay, perfect,
Speaker 1: So I make fun of some of them if I
Speaker 1: need to. Yeah, but remember I'm sensitive. So if you
Speaker 1: feel my energy change, layoff. Oh okay, miss, you're in
Speaker 1: the hospital. Hey, you look pretty. I was trying to
Speaker 1: bring up your spirit. No, I'm not sensitive. Can't handle sensitivity,
Speaker 1: can't you can't. Okay. So we've decided definitely no television
Speaker 1: during the week unless it's something as a family. Can
Speaker 1: I just say I think that that's probably because they
Speaker 1: look at me and think she's so well adjusted and
Speaker 1: smart and successful. I'm not gonna lie. All of my
Speaker 1: friends who are like we weren't allowed to watch TV
Speaker 1: during the week. I was like, oh, I can tell weird. No,
Speaker 1: they're all big readers. Ah, yes, because that's what else
Speaker 1: do you do? I don't know if they puzzles, but
Speaker 1: some of them might be. I did many a crossword
Speaker 1: on the weekend in sudoku, actually sadku. See what I mean?
Speaker 1: This is like very flex stuff I want real to have.
Speaker 1: So we're going to prioritize like music, reading, homework, and
Speaker 1: also rest. Rest is a big one that we want
Speaker 1: to prioritize. So once she's at school, she can't leave
Speaker 1: the dinner table until she tells us something that she's
Speaker 1: learned that day, so to encourage reflection, but also conversation
Speaker 1: at the dinner table as like a conversation starter. That
Speaker 1: was actually Charlie's wants shout out to my very husband.
Speaker 1: But I can just imagine now today I learned that
Speaker 1: I really hate this tradition. Do won't say that, but
Speaker 1: imagine if you've had a big, annoying day, she's going
Speaker 1: to have to at least be able to have one
Speaker 1: pass a week. No, absolutely not. We're at the dinner
Speaker 1: table or a family, we're having a conversation about what
Speaker 1: you've learned in school today. Charlie made up this one,
Speaker 1: which I was kind of like, this is aggressive, but
Speaker 1: then I was kind of like, huh, it finishes quite nicely,
Speaker 1: pay her to read and once she saves a little,
Speaker 1: teach her the value of money and how to invest.
Speaker 1: Love that so much. I thought it was quite cool
Speaker 1: that we're making her read, because no one cared about
Speaker 1: it if I read or not, so it's taking me
Speaker 1: ages to get into reading. I think it's really important
Speaker 1: to be well read anyway, and also teaching her how
Speaker 1: to use money, because that's the biggest thing I feel
Speaker 1: like as an adult, being kind of like financially illiterate. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's really difficult, So I'm really excited for her. She's
Speaker 1: going to do, I know a lot more than I
Speaker 1: did anyway. I'm going to have her cook one night
Speaker 1: a week. I'll help, of course, I'm not just going
Speaker 1: to throw her into the kitchen. You're going to be
Speaker 1: like chopping for a stir, right exactly, but just to
Speaker 1: kind of help her build those skills that I don't
Speaker 1: even really think I had, Like I've started to cook
Speaker 1: now that I'm a mum because I've had to. But
Speaker 1: I think that creating that environment and having her own
Speaker 1: something each week will be really cute and maybe if
Speaker 1: she likes it, it'll flourish. This one I loved Charlie again,
Speaker 1: he's really good at these. The three hobby rule, one
Speaker 1: to keep fit, one to keep you creative, and one
Speaker 1: to make your money. I love that so right, it's
Speaker 1: super cute. I had lots of hobbies to make me money.
Speaker 1: I used to steal people's flowers and sell them back
Speaker 1: to them. I had lemonade stands and such. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: did a lot. You were a hustler, an entrepreneur alas
Speaker 1: that never continued. Hello, what are we doing right now?
Speaker 1: Ye're not hustler CEOs of our own life hands. Okay,
Speaker 1: So never leave the house without saying I love you,
Speaker 1: which is something Charlie and I always do, because you
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. You want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you say you love each other. And no sleepovers.
Speaker 1: We're certainly at the life's stage where they're too young.
Speaker 1: They are too young. If we go for sleepovers, I
Speaker 1: go as well. That's even just a thing at the moment,
Speaker 1: because it'll be like, oh, Luke's out with the boys.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll just go to my sister's house for a
Speaker 1: sleep Yeah, yeah, you know. If my girlfriends have quite
Speaker 1: far away, I'll obviously then take Lan and will stay
Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, so true, so true. So sleepovers are
Speaker 1: kind of like for both of us. We build slumber
Speaker 1: party all my girlfriends and said, we all live in apartments,
Speaker 1: there's not really any room for us now have sleepovers.
Speaker 1: But I usually would just walk home, like I'll do dinner, bath,
Speaker 1: and then like rude just goes home in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jim Jams, that's what I do too most of the time.
Speaker 1: Like if it's just someone around here, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think that that's potentially because there's so many
Speaker 1: things to discuss that have come out over the past year,
Speaker 1: and it's definitely a very interesting topic. I think that
Speaker 1: I will have the same rule, which is unfortunate because
Speaker 1: I hated the rule growing up. I think it's just
Speaker 1: like you might trust the parents of a kid, but
Speaker 1: you don't know who they trust to come into there.
Speaker 1: He don't know the family, friends, you don't know the uncle,
Speaker 1: you don't know the cousins. Yeah, so I think friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a conversation that's honestly come up so much, which
Speaker 1: is interesting giving our kids at two. But I know
Speaker 1: about all the mums are reading the same things, you know.
Speaker 1: I think there was a viral Instagram posts probably within
Speaker 1: the last year, where a girl hadn't been allowed to
Speaker 1: go to sleepovers her whole life. So for her eighteenth birthday,
Speaker 1: she had a sleepover and her girlfriends all said like, hey,
Speaker 1: what was the reason that you weren't allowed to have
Speaker 1: the sleepover? And she said, oh, it was because my
Speaker 1: dad was sexually abused at a sleepover when he was
Speaker 1: a kid, and he kind of had that rule. And
Speaker 1: then what ended up happening is like a large majority
Speaker 1: of the girls who were at the sleepover revealed that
Speaker 1: they had actually been sexually assaulted in some way or
Speaker 1: had some kind of sexual experience in some way at
Speaker 1: a sleepover, and so she was kind of like, wow,
Speaker 1: Like I thought this was a really strict rule for
Speaker 1: a very good reason, but like how common is that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she realized it was actually quite common. So so
Speaker 1: it was a big discussion. I mean, we're way off
Speaker 1: from that, as you mentioned, Kell, but like it was
Speaker 1: a for a couple of weeks it was going off
Speaker 1: in the group chat about like and it's so which
Speaker 1: we just always talk about because we also just think
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. Yeah, and some of my greatest memories
Speaker 1: are at sleepovers and can so it's a hard rule
Speaker 1: and things where you learn. Ye, let us know what
Speaker 1: rules you had growing up. We actually had so many
Speaker 1: funny shitter submissions that I had a chance to read,
Speaker 1: but I'll pop them on socials. My favorite one, though,
Speaker 1: I just know from the top of my head, was
Speaker 1: someone had their best family friends. They made their children
Speaker 1: like everyone in the household had to pooh before they
Speaker 1: went to better about which I'm just like the logistics,
Speaker 1: it just completely wild. So the other one was if
Speaker 1: you had soup, you couldn't have water. You couldn't have
Speaker 1: a water, or you couldn't have a beverage with your meal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so many funny ones, so pop them up and
Speaker 1: you can add your funny ones and share away. And
Speaker 1: it's recommendation time. I'm Kelly mccaren. What have you got
Speaker 1: for us? My recommendation is for anyone in the same
Speaker 1: boat as me who child is going through a I
Speaker 1: hate getting dressed stage rough gold is doing the same. Honestly, manic.
Speaker 1: It is so wild, It is so upsetting in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm just so sick of it. So I've come
Speaker 1: up with a really good hack. Oh tell me, tell
Speaker 1: me what I do at nighttime? Now is I put
Speaker 1: him in his daycare clothes. This was a tip I
Speaker 1: gave you episode ages ago about loll I think it
Speaker 1: was about saving time or something. I think maybe I
Speaker 1: was probably like, I don't want him to go to
Speaker 1: daycare in his pajamas, and to be fair, I do
Speaker 1: like him to look nice, so I wouldn't do this
Speaker 1: on just a normal day. But I've realized I do
Speaker 1: not care what he looks like at daycare. No, so
Speaker 1: a tracksuit set with a singlet under the top, and
Speaker 1: then obviously he's got a puffer in his bag. If
Speaker 1: they're going outside and it gets cold, all I have
Speaker 1: to do is pull the pants down a little bit
Speaker 1: and the pulley off the pull up, and then under
Speaker 1: that I've got like just an average nappy. Take that off,
Speaker 1: chuck that over my shoulder, pull the pull up back
Speaker 1: up and the pants so nothing actually ever has to
Speaker 1: come off. He does screen through that, but it's a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than actually getting dressed. That is so good
Speaker 1: cal and he's nice and cozy because you know how
Speaker 1: like such a first world problem. But in winter it's
Speaker 1: so cold in the morning to get dressed. Oh I know,
Speaker 1: I know, and if you have a shower in the morning,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I never want to get out, I
Speaker 1: never want to get out, so nice and cozy just
Speaker 1: to be able to keep your clothes on. Yeah. Great.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today. A reminder
Speaker 1: that we are going to be taking the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks off to focus on season four. We're going
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Speaker 1: goes off the little group. We're just asking questions. We're
Speaker 1: helping each other struggle through. A great place to be
Speaker 1: it really is. This episode was produced by myself, Key Reese,
Speaker 1: and Kelly mccaren with audio production by the lovely Madeline Joanna.
Speaker 1: We'll see you in a couple of weeks, Shitters. We
Speaker 1: love you. Bye.