1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:16,154 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast. Makeup is 2 00:00:16,194 --> 00:00:17,874 Speaker 1: my therapy in love. 3 00:00:18,154 --> 00:00:20,994 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. 4 00:00:24,434 --> 00:00:27,194 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the podcast for Your Face. 5 00:00:27,274 --> 00:00:29,754 Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camp, I'm Kelly mccaren. 6 00:00:29,994 --> 00:00:32,754 Speaker 3: And it's Monday, which means we're going to be answering 7 00:00:32,874 --> 00:00:37,314 Speaker 3: your amazing, insightful, interesting. 8 00:00:36,833 --> 00:00:39,873 Speaker 1: Beauty curious and you wearing glasses. I am because I'm 9 00:00:39,913 --> 00:00:42,473 Speaker 1: curious George. Today. We will discuss that in a little bit. 10 00:00:42,473 --> 00:00:44,313 Speaker 1: But first, don't you want to know what's happening in 11 00:00:44,314 --> 00:00:44,954 Speaker 1: the world of beauty? 12 00:00:45,034 --> 00:00:45,193 Speaker 4: I do. 13 00:00:45,553 --> 00:00:48,873 Speaker 3: I do, so let's hear what is happening in the 14 00:00:48,913 --> 00:00:49,514 Speaker 3: Beauty Edit. 15 00:00:50,354 --> 00:00:52,114 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Beauty Edit. 16 00:00:52,193 --> 00:00:55,273 Speaker 5: I'm Cass and I'm Molly, and we are here to 17 00:00:55,314 --> 00:00:57,434 Speaker 5: talk about the latest in beauty news. 18 00:00:57,674 --> 00:01:01,993 Speaker 6: This week. Cass, we have bankruptcy. 19 00:01:02,234 --> 00:01:05,474 Speaker 2: We have so much to discuss. If you haven't heard already, 20 00:01:05,834 --> 00:01:08,074 Speaker 2: Dame Pat McGrath. She's kind known as like the mother 21 00:01:08,154 --> 00:01:10,474 Speaker 2: of makeup, and she has her eponymous makeup brand. And 22 00:01:10,474 --> 00:01:13,114 Speaker 2: this is a makeup brand that was very long awaited. 23 00:01:13,194 --> 00:01:14,994 Speaker 2: Everyone was like Pat when he's starting your own make 24 00:01:15,034 --> 00:01:16,794 Speaker 2: cup line, When he's starting her own make cup line 25 00:01:17,074 --> 00:01:19,954 Speaker 2: and she finally did it. And now unfortunately they've just 26 00:01:20,114 --> 00:01:23,474 Speaker 2: filed for a Chapter eleven bankruptcy. So the brand was 27 00:01:23,514 --> 00:01:26,514 Speaker 2: originally scheduled to be auctioned off in like jan but 28 00:01:26,594 --> 00:01:29,594 Speaker 2: this has now changed. It's not closing yet. You can 29 00:01:29,594 --> 00:01:32,274 Speaker 2: still buy it, but they're restructuring because they have over 30 00:01:32,314 --> 00:01:36,394 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars in liabilities, so there's obviously a financial 31 00:01:36,474 --> 00:01:39,994 Speaker 2: issue that's happened over at this brand. It's a unicorn 32 00:01:40,154 --> 00:01:43,674 Speaker 2: like she is probably one of the most she famed 33 00:01:44,154 --> 00:01:44,914 Speaker 2: makeup artists. 34 00:01:44,954 --> 00:01:46,274 Speaker 6: She is according to Vogue. 35 00:01:46,274 --> 00:01:49,594 Speaker 5: In fact, she is the most influential makeup artist that 36 00:01:49,674 --> 00:01:53,354 Speaker 5: ever there was, So she is a British makeup artist. 37 00:01:53,714 --> 00:01:57,434 Speaker 5: She defined runway makeup for over thirty years. So her 38 00:01:57,474 --> 00:02:02,674 Speaker 5: makeup is really overstated, lots of color, textures, accessories on 39 00:02:02,714 --> 00:02:06,994 Speaker 5: the face, you know, rhyanstone, pearls, feathers, that really over 40 00:02:07,234 --> 00:02:10,474 Speaker 5: dramatic makeup as well as really beautiful makeup. But she 41 00:02:10,834 --> 00:02:14,194 Speaker 5: is a true icon. You know, she's worked with the 42 00:02:14,353 --> 00:02:18,233 Speaker 5: likes of Madonna, Sarah, Jessica Parker, Kate Blanchet, Cindy Crawford, 43 00:02:18,354 --> 00:02:22,674 Speaker 5: you name it, and a myriad like every famous model 44 00:02:22,874 --> 00:02:23,754 Speaker 5: has worked with her. 45 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:24,874 Speaker 6: Everyone. 46 00:02:25,434 --> 00:02:28,314 Speaker 5: She was hired by Jorgio Armani in nineteen ninety nine 47 00:02:28,394 --> 00:02:31,434 Speaker 5: to collaborate on a range of cosmetics, and then she 48 00:02:31,474 --> 00:02:35,994 Speaker 5: became the global cosmetics Creative design director for Procter and Gamble. 49 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:39,434 Speaker 6: And apparently she's being paid a million dollars a year. 50 00:02:39,554 --> 00:02:40,594 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I know. 51 00:02:40,914 --> 00:02:42,394 Speaker 6: So, I mean, she's like the mother of me. 52 00:02:42,754 --> 00:02:43,274 Speaker 1: She is. 53 00:02:43,674 --> 00:02:48,513 Speaker 5: Her own products actually debuted with a product called gold One, 54 00:02:48,594 --> 00:02:51,474 Speaker 5: which was like a gold pigment and was sold in 55 00:02:51,554 --> 00:02:52,394 Speaker 5: a sequin pouch. 56 00:02:52,514 --> 00:02:54,594 Speaker 6: It sold out in six minutes. 57 00:02:55,114 --> 00:03:00,073 Speaker 5: So we're talking about someone who is the absolute icon. 58 00:02:59,954 --> 00:03:04,554 Speaker 6: Of makeup and this demise. It is quite sad. 59 00:03:04,354 --> 00:03:06,234 Speaker 2: When you look at the kind of breadth of the 60 00:03:06,234 --> 00:03:08,794 Speaker 2: company over time. They were originally, as you say, the 61 00:03:08,794 --> 00:03:11,674 Speaker 2: industry is golden child. With their Golden pigment, it was 62 00:03:11,754 --> 00:03:15,154 Speaker 2: valued over one billion dollars, not that long ago, not 63 00:03:15,194 --> 00:03:17,914 Speaker 2: that long ago, in twenty eighteen. So it kind of 64 00:03:17,954 --> 00:03:22,353 Speaker 2: proved that these makeup artistry, you know, giants could compete 65 00:03:22,474 --> 00:03:25,794 Speaker 2: with the corporate giants, if you will. It's really hard 66 00:03:25,834 --> 00:03:30,034 Speaker 2: seeing somebody like Pat McGrath's brand struggle when there are 67 00:03:30,074 --> 00:03:32,274 Speaker 2: so many other brands on the market that are absolutely 68 00:03:32,594 --> 00:03:34,914 Speaker 2: raking in And I want to sort of talk about why, 69 00:03:35,074 --> 00:03:36,994 Speaker 2: because I know that you have quite a big theory 70 00:03:36,994 --> 00:03:37,634 Speaker 2: on this mole. 71 00:03:38,194 --> 00:03:38,834 Speaker 6: Well I do. 72 00:03:39,034 --> 00:03:41,234 Speaker 5: I think look, at the end of the day, I 73 00:03:41,274 --> 00:03:46,714 Speaker 5: think we're seeing brands founded from one big person or 74 00:03:46,794 --> 00:03:51,514 Speaker 5: personality that is not necessarily enough to sustain a brand anymore. 75 00:03:52,194 --> 00:03:55,714 Speaker 5: I compare it to something the likes of Kylie Cosmetics 76 00:03:55,994 --> 00:04:00,434 Speaker 5: or Road Right, both of which were founded with huge celebrity. 77 00:04:00,834 --> 00:04:06,114 Speaker 5: Kylie Cosmetics obviously Kylie Jenner, Massive road Hailey Baber. But 78 00:04:06,634 --> 00:04:09,514 Speaker 5: if you look at both of those brands, they have 79 00:04:09,674 --> 00:04:11,234 Speaker 5: been created off the back of. 80 00:04:11,394 --> 00:04:12,634 Speaker 6: A consumer demand. 81 00:04:13,034 --> 00:04:17,034 Speaker 5: B They've then evolved with social media, with trends, They've 82 00:04:17,074 --> 00:04:20,433 Speaker 5: become viral. Each of their products has had a viral moment, 83 00:04:20,873 --> 00:04:27,034 Speaker 5: So they've really evolved beyond just being makeup into iconic 84 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:30,753 Speaker 5: brands that kind of almost have their own celebrity life 85 00:04:30,753 --> 00:04:32,834 Speaker 5: of their own. I think that's probably the difference is 86 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:38,113 Speaker 5: Pat McGrath Labs is founded on Pat's own expertise as 87 00:04:38,113 --> 00:04:41,594 Speaker 5: a makeup artist, which is incredible and no one can 88 00:04:41,633 --> 00:04:44,234 Speaker 5: possibly deny that she will live on like she is 89 00:04:44,274 --> 00:04:47,873 Speaker 5: an icon. Her inclusivity and beauty is something that cannot 90 00:04:47,914 --> 00:04:48,794 Speaker 5: be understated. 91 00:04:49,154 --> 00:04:51,874 Speaker 6: But I think while she will live on, I. 92 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:53,914 Speaker 5: Think the idea of a brand being founded on a 93 00:04:53,953 --> 00:04:56,953 Speaker 5: person and that being enough to sustain it, it just 94 00:04:57,034 --> 00:04:57,993 Speaker 5: that is not the case anything. 95 00:04:58,034 --> 00:04:59,873 Speaker 2: It doesn't really translate anyone. I love what you said 96 00:04:59,873 --> 00:05:02,914 Speaker 2: about the viral energy of Road and Kaylie, and I 97 00:05:02,953 --> 00:05:05,154 Speaker 2: think we also need to touch on price point because 98 00:05:05,433 --> 00:05:09,113 Speaker 2: abs haatmcgrath's brand is very, very expensive in comparison to 99 00:05:09,193 --> 00:05:11,633 Speaker 2: something like Road or Kylie, which are a lot more accessible. 100 00:05:11,633 --> 00:05:13,113 Speaker 2: And I do think we need to talk about the 101 00:05:13,113 --> 00:05:15,193 Speaker 2: fact that, you know, many of us are struggling with 102 00:05:15,234 --> 00:05:18,073 Speaker 2: money at the moment, with the finances, so that definitely 103 00:05:18,073 --> 00:05:18,873 Speaker 2: plays into it. 104 00:05:18,993 --> 00:05:21,993 Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, a Patmogra palette is one hundred and 105 00:05:22,034 --> 00:05:22,713 Speaker 5: twenty eight dollars. 106 00:05:22,753 --> 00:05:23,313 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 107 00:05:23,354 --> 00:05:25,714 Speaker 2: And you can see like she's over at Ysel now 108 00:05:25,753 --> 00:05:27,873 Speaker 2: doing a bunch of stuff with their Labutee line and 109 00:05:27,914 --> 00:05:30,794 Speaker 2: that's like two hundred and fifty or ninety dollars for 110 00:05:30,953 --> 00:05:32,794 Speaker 2: a tube flipsticks. 111 00:05:32,274 --> 00:05:35,034 Speaker 6: So exactly. Look, but that's a very different market. 112 00:05:35,073 --> 00:05:37,993 Speaker 2: It's such a different market, and I think that is 113 00:05:38,034 --> 00:05:40,513 Speaker 2: also the hard thing here is that there's a much 114 00:05:40,553 --> 00:05:44,073 Speaker 2: bigger market for that more affordable price point. But obviously 115 00:05:44,154 --> 00:05:46,113 Speaker 2: if you're a huge patmograth fan like us, you can 116 00:05:46,154 --> 00:05:49,754 Speaker 2: still buy your favorite items ads for Alta, you know, 117 00:05:49,794 --> 00:05:51,954 Speaker 2: all those sorts of stores alter if you're in America, 118 00:05:52,113 --> 00:05:54,633 Speaker 2: So if you're in Australia, definitely a sad moment for 119 00:05:54,753 --> 00:05:57,073 Speaker 2: fans of the brand. So a really interesting point to 120 00:05:57,113 --> 00:05:59,354 Speaker 2: note about brands that go bankrupt is it doesn't mean 121 00:05:59,393 --> 00:06:02,153 Speaker 2: it's the end of the line. So Arim Beauty which 122 00:06:02,274 --> 00:06:05,753 Speaker 2: is now helmed by Ariana Grande that fell into bankruptcy 123 00:06:05,794 --> 00:06:07,753 Speaker 2: and then she bought the company, made it into what 124 00:06:07,794 --> 00:06:09,474 Speaker 2: it is now and they're doing wicked collapse and all 125 00:06:09,513 --> 00:06:13,314 Speaker 2: these amazing things. So hopefully this is not the actual 126 00:06:13,513 --> 00:06:15,794 Speaker 2: end for Pat McGrath. There may be a buyer or 127 00:06:15,873 --> 00:06:18,354 Speaker 2: some sort of situation where they can work out the 128 00:06:18,393 --> 00:06:20,674 Speaker 2: financial side. And I personally would love to see that 129 00:06:20,794 --> 00:06:22,794 Speaker 2: because these are amazing products. 130 00:06:22,873 --> 00:06:23,313 Speaker 3: These are the. 131 00:06:23,313 --> 00:06:25,674 Speaker 2: Best in the bierz and yeah, I would love to 132 00:06:25,674 --> 00:06:26,474 Speaker 2: see that continue. 133 00:06:26,594 --> 00:06:30,394 Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to move on to Victoria Beckham. We 134 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:31,794 Speaker 6: do my favorite topic at the BH. 135 00:06:31,914 --> 00:06:33,113 Speaker 2: Oh god, I need to talk about this. 136 00:06:33,433 --> 00:06:35,793 Speaker 5: I know, okay, guys, but don't worry. We're not talking 137 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:39,194 Speaker 5: about Beckham and the family feud. We're talking about Victoria 138 00:06:39,234 --> 00:06:40,513 Speaker 5: Beckham's hair. 139 00:06:41,474 --> 00:06:43,433 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the photos. She was 140 00:06:43,513 --> 00:06:46,633 Speaker 2: leaving her hotel after the hawk Coture Spring Summer show 141 00:06:48,393 --> 00:06:51,993 Speaker 2: Paras Starling, and she was wearing a very Parisian hair 142 00:06:52,034 --> 00:06:55,273 Speaker 2: look that we call ballyage, which basically means to sweep 143 00:06:55,354 --> 00:06:57,753 Speaker 2: or paint and is when you free hand your bleach 144 00:06:57,873 --> 00:06:59,753 Speaker 2: and usually it's used on the ends of the hair. 145 00:07:00,034 --> 00:07:02,993 Speaker 2: You'll probably know it as kind of like a Boho aesthetic. 146 00:07:03,234 --> 00:07:06,594 Speaker 2: We've seen balleage a lot over the years, also on Vbait. 147 00:07:07,354 --> 00:07:10,274 Speaker 2: She's done it before, but this is a very twenty 148 00:07:10,314 --> 00:07:14,634 Speaker 2: sixteen take on ballyards. It was it's quite, it's ombre. 149 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:16,234 Speaker 2: It is so. 150 00:07:16,834 --> 00:07:19,634 Speaker 5: Just if you haven't seen the pictures, she's gone back 151 00:07:19,634 --> 00:07:23,234 Speaker 5: to her quite dark, very very dark, really like chocolatey 152 00:07:23,794 --> 00:07:26,234 Speaker 5: and then almost like bleached ends. 153 00:07:26,393 --> 00:07:29,674 Speaker 6: It's very top deck, but reverse top deck. 154 00:07:29,754 --> 00:07:32,674 Speaker 5: But I mean, look, I think Posh can carry it 155 00:07:32,674 --> 00:07:33,034 Speaker 5: it off. 156 00:07:33,034 --> 00:07:35,434 Speaker 2: Oh she looks amazing. And I think that this is 157 00:07:35,554 --> 00:07:37,834 Speaker 2: the thing that needs to be flagged, is that if 158 00:07:37,834 --> 00:07:40,354 Speaker 2: she's wearing it, come next year, we're all going to 159 00:07:40,393 --> 00:07:43,034 Speaker 2: be wearing it too. The twenty sixteen trend has absolutely 160 00:07:43,114 --> 00:07:45,994 Speaker 2: taken off on TikTok, with everybody sharing photos of their 161 00:07:46,034 --> 00:07:48,514 Speaker 2: outfits and their style in twenty sixteen, and maybe this 162 00:07:48,634 --> 00:07:50,474 Speaker 2: is just a beautiful renaissance. 163 00:07:50,674 --> 00:07:54,154 Speaker 5: What we can say is that quiet, luxury, old money 164 00:07:54,953 --> 00:07:56,393 Speaker 5: definitely is around, but. 165 00:07:56,314 --> 00:07:58,834 Speaker 6: This is a little bit, This is a bolder look. 166 00:07:59,074 --> 00:08:00,794 Speaker 5: So the next thing I want to talk about is 167 00:08:00,834 --> 00:08:03,794 Speaker 5: still on hair, and this is something that could apply 168 00:08:03,914 --> 00:08:06,394 Speaker 5: to anyone that decided to bleach their ends, and that 169 00:08:06,634 --> 00:08:10,914 Speaker 5: is is going off on our for you page is 170 00:08:10,953 --> 00:08:12,233 Speaker 5: the Abby Young. 171 00:08:12,393 --> 00:08:13,914 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with this woman, by the way, and I 172 00:08:13,953 --> 00:08:16,074 Speaker 2: totally actually buy into a lot of what she says. 173 00:08:16,234 --> 00:08:18,074 Speaker 6: Now we'll get into that in a second. Me too, 174 00:08:18,354 --> 00:08:19,994 Speaker 6: but I am a little skeptical. 175 00:08:20,194 --> 00:08:23,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's pros and cons, but I mean, I'll share 176 00:08:23,034 --> 00:08:25,914 Speaker 2: a little personal anecdote here, which is way back when 177 00:08:25,914 --> 00:08:29,634 Speaker 2: you remember everybody was avoiding silicones and going for really 178 00:08:29,714 --> 00:08:31,674 Speaker 2: natural hair care. I did the same, and I've never 179 00:08:31,674 --> 00:08:35,154 Speaker 2: seen my hair so brittle or breakable. I think that 180 00:08:35,434 --> 00:08:39,834 Speaker 2: her view that silicones and these sorts of products exist 181 00:08:39,914 --> 00:08:43,114 Speaker 2: for a reason is kind of true. I've spoken to 182 00:08:43,114 --> 00:08:45,074 Speaker 2: a few hairdressers pro and con obviously don't want to 183 00:08:45,074 --> 00:08:48,274 Speaker 2: be covering your hair in plastic. But going back to 184 00:08:48,354 --> 00:08:50,754 Speaker 2: these supermarket shampoos that have these products in them, I've 185 00:08:50,794 --> 00:08:53,954 Speaker 2: actually seen a huge improvement in the quality and strength 186 00:08:53,994 --> 00:08:55,354 Speaker 2: of my hair. My hair is very long. 187 00:08:55,634 --> 00:08:57,634 Speaker 1: So I am sort of. 188 00:08:57,514 --> 00:09:00,634 Speaker 6: On her side honestly describing. Yeah, I'm gonna subscribe, okay. 189 00:09:00,674 --> 00:09:04,114 Speaker 5: So to set the scene, Abby Young is essentially she's 190 00:09:04,154 --> 00:09:07,034 Speaker 5: a TikTok influencer with incredible hair. 191 00:09:07,434 --> 00:09:10,674 Speaker 2: She is, and she's also a trichologist, which is essentially 192 00:09:10,754 --> 00:09:13,074 Speaker 2: like an expert in hair health and the way that 193 00:09:13,114 --> 00:09:15,994 Speaker 2: your hair grows and knowing like the science which in 194 00:09:15,994 --> 00:09:19,474 Speaker 2: your hair. She got into that after I think, yeah, 195 00:09:19,634 --> 00:09:21,794 Speaker 2: she was already a hair influencer, and then I think 196 00:09:21,834 --> 00:09:24,434 Speaker 2: she was like, let me go get the actual science 197 00:09:24,434 --> 00:09:26,074 Speaker 2: on this, which I love a girlipop who's about the 198 00:09:26,114 --> 00:09:27,754 Speaker 2: science because we want to make sure that the things 199 00:09:27,794 --> 00:09:29,314 Speaker 2: are putting on our body and our hair works. 200 00:09:29,514 --> 00:09:30,914 Speaker 6: So I do appreciate that. 201 00:09:31,354 --> 00:09:34,154 Speaker 5: I'm like here too, maybe alber come when in row, 202 00:09:34,354 --> 00:09:37,314 Speaker 5: When in row. So what she does she has an 203 00:09:37,354 --> 00:09:41,274 Speaker 5: eleven step method and she talks you through each step 204 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:44,514 Speaker 5: to have the best hair you can possibly have. 205 00:09:44,874 --> 00:09:48,434 Speaker 6: So let's talk through these steps. They are quite involved. 206 00:09:48,434 --> 00:09:49,314 Speaker 1: They're quite involved. 207 00:09:49,354 --> 00:09:52,074 Speaker 5: So the Abby Young hair method is a pre wash 208 00:09:52,194 --> 00:09:54,953 Speaker 5: oil or a mask of some sort on the mid 209 00:09:55,034 --> 00:09:57,634 Speaker 5: links and ends, but you can also put that into 210 00:09:57,674 --> 00:09:58,234 Speaker 5: your roots. 211 00:09:58,314 --> 00:10:00,394 Speaker 6: If you're not an early. 212 00:10:00,234 --> 00:10:06,634 Speaker 5: Girl shampoo the scalp only double cleans, then condition midlengths 213 00:10:06,674 --> 00:10:10,834 Speaker 5: to wins, not the scalp specifically for her, a hair 214 00:10:10,914 --> 00:10:14,634 Speaker 5: mask after the conditioner, a leave in treatment on damp hair, 215 00:10:14,754 --> 00:10:17,834 Speaker 5: and then a heat protectant before styling. Yes, what this 216 00:10:17,914 --> 00:10:21,394 Speaker 5: harks back to is the eleven step skin routine we've 217 00:10:21,434 --> 00:10:23,833 Speaker 5: all been falling into since, like I don't know, in 218 00:10:23,874 --> 00:10:27,314 Speaker 5: the last few years, especially since the rise of K beauty. 219 00:10:26,994 --> 00:10:29,714 Speaker 2: But for hair, yes, and you know what I actually 220 00:10:29,714 --> 00:10:32,394 Speaker 2: do back this. I don't think that a shampoo conditioner 221 00:10:32,594 --> 00:10:34,834 Speaker 2: is enough of your hair, especially if it's long or dry. 222 00:10:35,074 --> 00:10:36,954 Speaker 2: There's a lot of curation that you can do and 223 00:10:36,994 --> 00:10:39,234 Speaker 2: it's routine to make it right for you, which is great, 224 00:10:39,594 --> 00:10:41,714 Speaker 2: But it is quite excessive, isn't. 225 00:10:41,554 --> 00:10:43,714 Speaker 6: That's a lot. Eleven steps is a lot. 226 00:10:43,594 --> 00:10:46,474 Speaker 2: And it is expensive, but the products themselves are not 227 00:10:46,714 --> 00:10:49,834 Speaker 2: like eighty dollars each, Yes, so it is a little 228 00:10:49,834 --> 00:10:52,274 Speaker 2: bit more accessible in that way, and that's it for 229 00:10:52,274 --> 00:10:54,394 Speaker 2: your beauty edit this week. Now onto the show. 230 00:10:55,794 --> 00:10:58,034 Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but wonder asked me anything. 231 00:10:58,114 --> 00:10:59,234 Speaker 6: You ask many questions. 232 00:11:00,914 --> 00:11:04,554 Speaker 3: So first up, we've got a question from Virginia. That's 233 00:11:04,594 --> 00:11:06,514 Speaker 3: why you just said my sister's name is Virginia. I 234 00:11:06,554 --> 00:11:08,474 Speaker 3: was like, what are you just telling me a random fact? Anyway, 235 00:11:08,554 --> 00:11:11,994 Speaker 3: Virginia has asked, not sisterly, this is the year I 236 00:11:12,034 --> 00:11:14,754 Speaker 3: plan to style my hair more than once every three months. 237 00:11:14,834 --> 00:11:17,953 Speaker 3: It's what i'd call medium length and pretty straight. I 238 00:11:17,994 --> 00:11:20,074 Speaker 3: think it has a slight wave or maybe it's just 239 00:11:20,114 --> 00:11:23,074 Speaker 3: a bit of frizz. Do you have any fairly fast hairstyles? 240 00:11:23,114 --> 00:11:25,074 Speaker 3: I can try all methods that will help me leave 241 00:11:25,114 --> 00:11:27,074 Speaker 3: the house not hitting my hair. That won't take forty 242 00:11:27,074 --> 00:11:29,794 Speaker 3: five minutes. Thanks, lovely ladies. Can I just say thank 243 00:11:29,834 --> 00:11:31,953 Speaker 3: heavens because when I first read this question, I oversely 244 00:11:31,994 --> 00:11:35,274 Speaker 3: didn't read it properly, and I thought she said like, 245 00:11:35,354 --> 00:11:37,234 Speaker 3: won't take more than forty five minutes, And I was like, 246 00:11:37,674 --> 00:11:41,554 Speaker 3: I could do, like if a hairstyle ever took me 247 00:11:41,594 --> 00:11:42,434 Speaker 3: forty five minutes. 248 00:11:42,674 --> 00:11:45,794 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, Virginia. We can help you, but to 249 00:11:45,914 --> 00:11:48,554 Speaker 1: a degree. I mean, if it was that simple to 250 00:11:48,594 --> 00:11:51,234 Speaker 1: have like the most flawless hair in three minutes. Everyone 251 00:11:51,234 --> 00:11:53,074 Speaker 1: would It depends on your hair type, which I've give 252 00:11:53,074 --> 00:11:55,794 Speaker 1: it a s info. Yeah, I disagree. I actually disagree. 253 00:11:55,834 --> 00:11:58,354 Speaker 3: I think that you're forgetting about your hair treatment that 254 00:11:58,354 --> 00:12:00,034 Speaker 3: you've had a few times that you bang on about. 255 00:12:00,194 --> 00:12:03,754 Speaker 1: Well, mind's fully grown out now, I agree, But she 256 00:12:03,834 --> 00:12:06,394 Speaker 1: says she's got relatively straight hair, bit of wave, bit 257 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:08,874 Speaker 1: of frizz. On your expectations, it's still not going to 258 00:12:08,914 --> 00:12:11,394 Speaker 1: look like a bouncy blowout, but it won't have that, 259 00:12:11,594 --> 00:12:11,754 Speaker 1: but it. 260 00:12:11,714 --> 00:12:14,714 Speaker 3: Won't look like my hair in its natural state is 261 00:12:14,874 --> 00:12:17,714 Speaker 3: a wooly lion's Maine thing, just awful. 262 00:12:17,834 --> 00:12:18,594 Speaker 1: No, I didn't mean that. 263 00:12:18,634 --> 00:12:20,994 Speaker 3: I mean, no, it is true so that I would 264 00:12:20,994 --> 00:12:23,154 Speaker 3: benefit a lot from that treatment. 265 00:12:23,194 --> 00:12:25,754 Speaker 1: If I made the appointment, I'll take you because I 266 00:12:25,754 --> 00:12:26,953 Speaker 1: need to get mine done again. 267 00:12:26,714 --> 00:12:28,754 Speaker 3: Because then I would be able to wake up and 268 00:12:28,794 --> 00:12:30,234 Speaker 3: it would just be a lot more effortless. 269 00:12:30,274 --> 00:12:32,833 Speaker 1: Totally, so something like that. I did think of that. 270 00:12:33,314 --> 00:12:35,234 Speaker 1: I mean, I think she sounds like she's got lovely hair. 271 00:12:35,234 --> 00:12:39,994 Speaker 1: I just think, firstly, like I said, expectations, because if 272 00:12:40,194 --> 00:12:43,434 Speaker 1: everything that's super fast and amazing, we'd always supermodels. Not really, 273 00:12:43,474 --> 00:12:44,634 Speaker 1: but you know, what I mean, But I do have 274 00:12:44,674 --> 00:12:48,874 Speaker 1: a few ideas. I love a slick back hairstyle, but 275 00:12:48,954 --> 00:12:50,954 Speaker 1: for me, it's always better if I'm like if I'm 276 00:12:50,954 --> 00:12:52,714 Speaker 1: at the beach, I does don't care of like beach holiday, 277 00:12:52,714 --> 00:12:56,394 Speaker 1: but if I'm going somewhere that's like casual but not coastal. 278 00:12:57,034 --> 00:12:59,834 Speaker 1: I like the center part because it feels more purposeful. 279 00:13:00,234 --> 00:13:01,874 Speaker 1: Normally I would do an earring with the center part, 280 00:13:01,914 --> 00:13:04,074 Speaker 1: and then it just feels like whole vibe. Yeah, but 281 00:13:04,274 --> 00:13:06,154 Speaker 1: see my roots need doing so then that's a whole 282 00:13:06,194 --> 00:13:09,114 Speaker 1: nother And I have the world's weadst hairlines, so I 283 00:13:09,114 --> 00:13:12,434 Speaker 1: don't often do this on parts. Just try different part. 284 00:13:12,554 --> 00:13:15,074 Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy, but just switch it up 285 00:13:15,394 --> 00:13:17,874 Speaker 1: because oftentimes as well, your hair will get oily in 286 00:13:17,914 --> 00:13:20,354 Speaker 1: the place you normally part it, so just try something different. 287 00:13:20,354 --> 00:13:23,274 Speaker 1: And also because the hair hasn't there's a scientific way 288 00:13:23,274 --> 00:13:24,594 Speaker 1: to explain this, but I don't know how, but because 289 00:13:24,594 --> 00:13:26,874 Speaker 1: they hasn't laid that way, it'll naturally be like whoo, 290 00:13:26,914 --> 00:13:30,674 Speaker 1: would be a bit more volumeless. Yes, another option? Can 291 00:13:30,714 --> 00:13:32,314 Speaker 1: you do it on the go? The reason I asked 292 00:13:32,314 --> 00:13:34,794 Speaker 1: that is I heard Amy Clark talking about doing her 293 00:13:35,034 --> 00:13:37,274 Speaker 1: makeup on the bus, and I'm wondering, if you're driving 294 00:13:37,314 --> 00:13:41,274 Speaker 1: a vehicle, if you're commuting, if you can somehow do 295 00:13:41,354 --> 00:13:43,954 Speaker 1: a little bit on the go. I do safely. So 296 00:13:43,994 --> 00:13:48,234 Speaker 1: I have a few heatless cordless heath tools, as we know, 297 00:13:48,314 --> 00:13:51,874 Speaker 1: MYDHD cordless that I then gave to Tiagan. Then I 298 00:13:51,954 --> 00:13:54,994 Speaker 1: bought the kmart run Here's a journey. So there's a 299 00:13:54,994 --> 00:13:56,994 Speaker 1: few that I actually think are really great, depending on 300 00:13:56,994 --> 00:13:59,434 Speaker 1: what you want to do. There's this tiny, tiny one. 301 00:13:59,594 --> 00:14:03,713 Speaker 1: It looks like really little, like a little disk and 302 00:14:03,754 --> 00:14:05,914 Speaker 1: it's just got like a domey prongs that heat up 303 00:14:05,954 --> 00:14:08,354 Speaker 1: and so it's literally just a kind of like comb down. 304 00:14:08,394 --> 00:14:12,554 Speaker 1: The fuzz showays it's phenomenal. Yeah, that's so cool. Yes, 305 00:14:12,634 --> 00:14:15,434 Speaker 1: there's heaps on Amazon, so jump in Amazon Australia and 306 00:14:15,434 --> 00:14:18,874 Speaker 1: then search four stars or higher and you'll see all 307 00:14:18,914 --> 00:14:21,034 Speaker 1: the reviews. God, I love reading Amazon reviews because is 308 00:14:21,074 --> 00:14:23,874 Speaker 1: so much so funny. Yes, and then I've also got 309 00:14:23,874 --> 00:14:25,474 Speaker 1: a Lady Jane one that I got at price Line 310 00:14:25,554 --> 00:14:28,514 Speaker 1: probably three years ago that's still going strong. So because 311 00:14:28,554 --> 00:14:31,234 Speaker 1: I can sort of mostly air dry, I'll do that. 312 00:14:31,474 --> 00:14:34,114 Speaker 1: And then if I'm a passenger, no problem, I'll do 313 00:14:34,154 --> 00:14:36,434 Speaker 1: that if I'm driving, I usually do it at my location, 314 00:14:37,074 --> 00:14:39,234 Speaker 1: like at my girls Christmas, not try my GHD in 315 00:14:39,234 --> 00:14:44,514 Speaker 1: my bag. Have you tried an air dry bum or 316 00:14:44,834 --> 00:14:48,474 Speaker 1: Seerum my friend Virginia. They're really bloody good if you've 317 00:14:48,514 --> 00:14:50,914 Speaker 1: got your hair tight where it's you know, got a 318 00:14:50,914 --> 00:14:52,754 Speaker 1: bit of a wave, bit of texture, but a little 319 00:14:52,754 --> 00:14:54,634 Speaker 1: bit of frizzer as well. They're so good for that. 320 00:14:54,674 --> 00:14:56,874 Speaker 1: If you're really curly and coily and want, you know, 321 00:14:57,154 --> 00:15:00,674 Speaker 1: really uniform curls. I'm not sure. My two favorites, well, 322 00:15:00,714 --> 00:15:03,274 Speaker 1: my favorites really expensive, the R and co cool when 323 00:15:03,514 --> 00:15:07,234 Speaker 1: pH perfect air dry cream, It's phenomenal every time I 324 00:15:07,274 --> 00:15:08,434 Speaker 1: put it in my hair, and I know it kind 325 00:15:08,434 --> 00:15:10,234 Speaker 1: of helps with my hair type. But people go, wow, 326 00:15:10,634 --> 00:15:12,754 Speaker 1: how do you get those undone waves? And I'm like, literally, 327 00:15:12,794 --> 00:15:14,914 Speaker 1: get out of shower and put that on. Orbait does 328 00:15:14,954 --> 00:15:17,514 Speaker 1: a really good one and the other one that's affordable 329 00:15:17,554 --> 00:15:19,754 Speaker 1: and great. Two of my girlfriends with the best hair 330 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:23,354 Speaker 1: swear by it is the John Frieda air dry Waves. 331 00:15:22,794 --> 00:15:26,034 Speaker 3: Oh I know, well, I was wondering if she's ever 332 00:15:26,114 --> 00:15:27,394 Speaker 3: tried heatless curls. 333 00:15:27,674 --> 00:15:31,514 Speaker 1: So you're not a fan. My hair hasn't been long enough, 334 00:15:31,554 --> 00:15:32,434 Speaker 1: it's getting there now. 335 00:15:32,794 --> 00:15:35,394 Speaker 3: Heatless curls will only work if your hair is longer 336 00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:36,234 Speaker 3: than your shoulders and. 337 00:15:36,154 --> 00:15:37,994 Speaker 1: Where she's saying medium to me, that could be there 338 00:15:38,074 --> 00:15:40,874 Speaker 1: or there. Could you fit a heatless curl in now? Yes? 339 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:42,674 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't because I would look like Shirley Temple. 340 00:15:42,714 --> 00:15:45,274 Speaker 1: Well. Yes, remember before Christmas I tried something. 341 00:15:44,994 --> 00:15:49,834 Speaker 3: With so I would definitely if your hair's like longer 342 00:15:50,154 --> 00:15:53,394 Speaker 3: medium to like on the longer side of medium, try 343 00:15:53,514 --> 00:15:55,514 Speaker 3: heatless curls because then you can sleep in it and 344 00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:58,034 Speaker 3: it is five minutes and they actually look really good 345 00:15:58,034 --> 00:15:59,714 Speaker 3: if you once you get the knack of bed. 346 00:16:00,434 --> 00:16:02,754 Speaker 1: I love bell crows, like around the haircrabbit. 347 00:16:03,154 --> 00:16:07,434 Speaker 3: I love braids. I always do braids. It's just lesson. 348 00:16:07,514 --> 00:16:09,034 Speaker 3: It looks like you've put way more effort in. It 349 00:16:09,034 --> 00:16:10,354 Speaker 3: takes a couple of minutes after you get the hang 350 00:16:10,394 --> 00:16:13,874 Speaker 3: of it. A practice makes perfect hairstyle. You told us 351 00:16:13,914 --> 00:16:17,874 Speaker 3: that that it's on my list. The twisty, the twisty twist, 352 00:16:18,114 --> 00:16:18,674 Speaker 3: the twisting. 353 00:16:18,994 --> 00:16:21,274 Speaker 1: Now with your hair this link I sure killed. In fact, 354 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:22,834 Speaker 1: would you like me to do it? Yes, because I 355 00:16:22,874 --> 00:16:24,914 Speaker 1: need to know now my hair is getting longer. You're 356 00:16:24,914 --> 00:16:26,754 Speaker 1: can have to watch on YouTube everybody, because this is 357 00:16:26,874 --> 00:16:30,594 Speaker 1: very visual. A few moments later, anyone could do it. 358 00:16:30,674 --> 00:16:31,754 Speaker 1: Does that look good? Or yes? 359 00:16:32,474 --> 00:16:34,274 Speaker 3: Literally just you have to watch it on YouTube. I 360 00:16:34,274 --> 00:16:36,834 Speaker 3: cannot describe it. You just grab the front so she. 361 00:16:36,834 --> 00:16:39,594 Speaker 1: Can twist it part and she's twisted one side of 362 00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:40,594 Speaker 1: the front. 363 00:16:40,314 --> 00:16:43,554 Speaker 3: Bit and then you just tie it into the back 364 00:16:43,594 --> 00:16:45,634 Speaker 3: and you know what, Actually, if you do have the 365 00:16:45,714 --> 00:16:49,474 Speaker 3: shorter side of medium hair, and for anyone else, wait 366 00:16:49,874 --> 00:16:51,394 Speaker 3: till our beauty hack, I will show her to do 367 00:16:51,434 --> 00:16:53,114 Speaker 3: a bun because with short hair it's really hard. 368 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:56,114 Speaker 1: I know. May I ask before you finish that, do 369 00:16:56,154 --> 00:16:57,594 Speaker 1: you pin that hair elastick? 370 00:16:57,794 --> 00:16:59,754 Speaker 3: How do you keep it back with a bun? Or 371 00:16:59,794 --> 00:17:00,914 Speaker 3: you can pin it but with a bun? 372 00:17:01,114 --> 00:17:02,514 Speaker 1: What do you mean how do you hold the bun 373 00:17:02,834 --> 00:17:05,194 Speaker 1: with the hair? Tye? Okay good. I love how that 374 00:17:05,194 --> 00:17:07,914 Speaker 1: turned into a lesson for me. One more thing that 375 00:17:07,994 --> 00:17:10,273 Speaker 1: I used to think was really dag into last year 376 00:17:10,354 --> 00:17:12,634 Speaker 1: and now I love it. Half up, half down. Let 377 00:17:12,714 --> 00:17:14,994 Speaker 1: us know how you go Virginia particularly, I reckon try 378 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:19,154 Speaker 1: the air dry products because they're so good and just 379 00:17:19,234 --> 00:17:27,874 Speaker 1: go with the slip like I have to agree. Next up, 380 00:17:27,874 --> 00:17:31,074 Speaker 1: we've got a question from Audrey. She asked, Hi, ladies, 381 00:17:31,154 --> 00:17:33,474 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the show. It's my favorite 382 00:17:33,514 --> 00:17:37,194 Speaker 1: podcast and I always learn so much. Wow yay. My 383 00:17:37,394 --> 00:17:40,954 Speaker 1: question is can you recommend tips or products to achieve 384 00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:45,354 Speaker 1: that French girl effortless just kissed lip look. I have 385 00:17:45,474 --> 00:17:48,313 Speaker 1: tried jelly cheek and lip stains, however fine that the 386 00:17:48,354 --> 00:17:50,914 Speaker 1: finish is not even and the product sticks to the 387 00:17:50,994 --> 00:17:53,634 Speaker 1: dry parts. Have you got advice on how to prep 388 00:17:53,674 --> 00:17:55,914 Speaker 1: the lips or products that just work? Do you know what? 389 00:17:55,994 --> 00:17:57,594 Speaker 3: I have a theory, and it might be a little 390 00:17:57,634 --> 00:18:01,553 Speaker 3: bit controversial. I don't think that this looks good on 391 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:05,234 Speaker 3: that many people. I think it's very editorial. I think 392 00:18:05,274 --> 00:18:09,994 Speaker 3: it looks beautiful in beautiful like Vogue shoots, where the 393 00:18:10,034 --> 00:18:13,513 Speaker 3: makeup artist has carefully made sure that it's really even, 394 00:18:13,834 --> 00:18:17,033 Speaker 3: and that just like bitten into a cherry, the model 395 00:18:17,034 --> 00:18:19,674 Speaker 3: always has quite full lips, a really fully they're also 396 00:18:19,994 --> 00:18:23,954 Speaker 3: like nineteen years old, so everything's plump and shaken right 397 00:18:23,994 --> 00:18:24,793 Speaker 3: to the border. 398 00:18:24,554 --> 00:18:26,314 Speaker 1: So it doesn't look like you actually just lay a cherry, 399 00:18:26,354 --> 00:18:27,394 Speaker 1: but exactly. 400 00:18:27,554 --> 00:18:30,194 Speaker 3: It's very carefully done. When it looks like it looks 401 00:18:30,234 --> 00:18:31,914 Speaker 3: so effortless, but it's so careful. 402 00:18:31,954 --> 00:18:33,834 Speaker 1: But I wonder if she kind of wants what you've 403 00:18:33,834 --> 00:18:37,234 Speaker 1: got today, which is like just a blurreded like a 404 00:18:37,274 --> 00:18:39,833 Speaker 1: lip color, but a blurred edge. But like, no, I 405 00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:41,674 Speaker 1: don't know the mirror. 406 00:18:41,874 --> 00:18:45,114 Speaker 3: You cannot see very well even with your glasses on, 407 00:18:45,154 --> 00:18:47,914 Speaker 3: because if you looked at my lips closely, it's not blurred, 408 00:18:47,994 --> 00:18:51,954 Speaker 3: it's feathered out. It's so worn off it looks awful 409 00:18:52,074 --> 00:18:53,634 Speaker 3: and it's stuck in the dry bits. 410 00:18:53,714 --> 00:18:55,194 Speaker 1: Okay, well I can't see the dry bits, but I 411 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:57,634 Speaker 1: think she wants that smoogy smadge like she's been pashing. 412 00:18:58,114 --> 00:19:00,914 Speaker 3: So just put your lipstick on and then let it 413 00:19:00,954 --> 00:19:01,314 Speaker 3: wear off. 414 00:19:01,394 --> 00:19:03,793 Speaker 1: Hey, that's not very nice, but as a non a 415 00:19:03,834 --> 00:19:06,274 Speaker 1: lip person, that's kind of what I was going to say. 416 00:19:06,434 --> 00:19:09,234 Speaker 1: I just I very rarely wear lip color because it's 417 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:11,314 Speaker 1: too high maintenance. You've got to either have a precise 418 00:19:11,394 --> 00:19:13,314 Speaker 1: line or it wears off it falls in your dry 419 00:19:13,354 --> 00:19:17,354 Speaker 1: bits or whatever. So I just don't like it. But secondly, 420 00:19:17,794 --> 00:19:21,554 Speaker 1: I accidentally did this over the break thinking well, influenced 421 00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:25,793 Speaker 1: by you the Hilary Home vinyl stay blah blah. I 422 00:19:25,874 --> 00:19:27,793 Speaker 1: just didn't put enough one because I'm scared, and I 423 00:19:27,994 --> 00:19:30,434 Speaker 1: kind of created a bit of a lip stain. Oh, 424 00:19:30,754 --> 00:19:33,594 Speaker 1: but it wasn't matt obviously because they're shiny, but it's stayed. 425 00:19:33,994 --> 00:19:36,114 Speaker 3: It's not going to stay all day, But that was 426 00:19:36,234 --> 00:19:39,114 Speaker 3: kind of cool. I think that the cover girl blur. 427 00:19:39,314 --> 00:19:42,994 Speaker 3: We love these products. This sort of gives you that 428 00:19:43,394 --> 00:19:47,834 Speaker 3: really blur, like worn in matte but not dry, and 429 00:19:47,914 --> 00:19:49,914 Speaker 3: you can retouch with a mirror. 430 00:19:50,274 --> 00:19:50,834 Speaker 1: You don't need. 431 00:19:50,954 --> 00:19:54,513 Speaker 3: It's like a bomb, but it's lipstick. You don't need lipliner. 432 00:19:54,674 --> 00:19:59,034 Speaker 3: You don't like that. It is the easiest lipstick to use, Yes, 433 00:19:59,234 --> 00:20:02,594 Speaker 3: so that gives a very similar effect. I would say 434 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:06,514 Speaker 3: that what you're probably going for also lip blushings. 435 00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:09,074 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think she wants a lip stain that luft? Like? 436 00:20:09,114 --> 00:20:10,274 Speaker 1: Is she looking for longevity? 437 00:20:10,474 --> 00:20:10,513 Speaker 5: No? 438 00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:13,474 Speaker 3: I think she wants that French girl effortless like blurry. 439 00:20:13,554 --> 00:20:15,514 Speaker 1: Okay, oh we can do that with lots of things. 440 00:20:15,554 --> 00:20:17,674 Speaker 1: You just got to touch it up all the time. Yeah, 441 00:20:17,714 --> 00:20:19,434 Speaker 1: And I just don't I don't know. 442 00:20:19,554 --> 00:20:21,194 Speaker 3: I think that it's one of those things that just 443 00:20:21,194 --> 00:20:23,514 Speaker 3: looks better when you see it in a professional photoshoot, 444 00:20:23,554 --> 00:20:25,754 Speaker 3: when it's been worked on for five hours. Like, I 445 00:20:25,794 --> 00:20:28,793 Speaker 3: don't think that anyone ever walks down the street and goes, WHOA, 446 00:20:28,834 --> 00:20:33,834 Speaker 3: I really love that effortless, like just bitten from like, yeah, 447 00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:35,554 Speaker 3: that would be you'd actually be like, oh, it looks 448 00:20:35,554 --> 00:20:37,994 Speaker 3: really lived in, but you really need to fix it up. 449 00:20:38,434 --> 00:20:42,034 Speaker 1: The other week I recommended that Revlon Jewy cheek blush. 450 00:20:42,194 --> 00:20:43,714 Speaker 1: The other day I used too much and I put 451 00:20:43,714 --> 00:20:45,674 Speaker 1: it on my lips. It was very subtle, but it 452 00:20:45,714 --> 00:20:47,954 Speaker 1: was great. It has a gimmer in it though, but 453 00:20:48,034 --> 00:20:50,754 Speaker 1: it just I don't know, I'm just trying to help her. No, 454 00:20:51,074 --> 00:20:53,754 Speaker 1: it did look as a non lip person. Yeah, it 455 00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:54,554 Speaker 1: was a good texture. 456 00:20:54,714 --> 00:20:59,034 Speaker 3: I love if you've got a good texture with cheek products, 457 00:20:59,074 --> 00:21:01,234 Speaker 3: like adding a little bit of leftover to onto your 458 00:21:01,234 --> 00:21:02,034 Speaker 3: lips is just. 459 00:21:04,074 --> 00:21:06,994 Speaker 1: Yeah. But the atal very helpful. 460 00:21:07,514 --> 00:21:11,634 Speaker 3: Well, No, I think it's because the expectations for the 461 00:21:11,714 --> 00:21:12,874 Speaker 3: French girl. 462 00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:14,234 Speaker 1: I know the look. 463 00:21:14,754 --> 00:21:17,074 Speaker 3: Well I assume that I think I know the look 464 00:21:17,114 --> 00:21:20,474 Speaker 3: that she's referring to, and it is just so editorial 465 00:21:21,074 --> 00:21:23,114 Speaker 3: that even though it looks effortless, it's not. 466 00:21:23,194 --> 00:21:25,354 Speaker 1: At all, or it looks good for half an hour 467 00:21:25,514 --> 00:21:28,313 Speaker 1: and then it's yeah, it looks just messy. Yeah, So 468 00:21:28,394 --> 00:21:31,314 Speaker 1: I think it's more about just more lived in lip, 469 00:21:31,314 --> 00:21:33,594 Speaker 1: in which case it's just how it wears to the day. 470 00:21:33,754 --> 00:21:36,914 Speaker 1: Korean makeup brands kind of do that sort of just 471 00:21:36,994 --> 00:21:38,034 Speaker 1: bit and blurry edge. 472 00:21:38,074 --> 00:21:41,034 Speaker 3: So maybe head to a W Cosmetics. But then it's 473 00:21:41,114 --> 00:21:42,914 Speaker 3: the same, like it's going to look good for a 474 00:21:42,914 --> 00:21:43,354 Speaker 3: little while. 475 00:21:43,434 --> 00:21:45,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're telling you that you don't like what 476 00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:46,074 Speaker 1: she wants. 477 00:21:46,114 --> 00:21:49,273 Speaker 3: She wants it, I'm simply telling I don't think it's 478 00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:52,474 Speaker 3: a realistic goal in the real world, and there's not 479 00:21:52,554 --> 00:21:54,874 Speaker 3: a huge amount of options compared to like high shine 480 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,554 Speaker 3: lip gloss or lip oils all along where matte lipsticks 481 00:21:57,554 --> 00:22:00,914 Speaker 3: because they're far more popular because I guess people feel 482 00:22:00,954 --> 00:22:02,714 Speaker 3: they look better. But I also don't think that this 483 00:22:02,914 --> 00:22:03,874 Speaker 3: is her fault. 484 00:22:03,994 --> 00:22:05,434 Speaker 1: It's because it's like. 485 00:22:05,914 --> 00:22:10,593 Speaker 3: Sold to us exact and people have this gorgeous like 486 00:22:11,274 --> 00:22:12,754 Speaker 3: but it's actually not ethelis at all. 487 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:14,594 Speaker 1: Probably that face app you know you can do that 488 00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,634 Speaker 1: on the exactly. It's also probably a filter. 489 00:22:16,834 --> 00:22:17,034 Speaker 4: Yeah. 490 00:22:17,314 --> 00:22:20,394 Speaker 1: Anyway, we probably didn't help you. But what I would 491 00:22:20,434 --> 00:22:21,874 Speaker 1: do first, I mean, I know you love the look 492 00:22:22,114 --> 00:22:24,034 Speaker 1: and those ones dried out. Just get some of your 493 00:22:24,074 --> 00:22:27,034 Speaker 1: like satin not super hydrating juicy lipsticks, but just play 494 00:22:27,034 --> 00:22:29,834 Speaker 1: around with texture. Even back when I was a little girl, 495 00:22:29,874 --> 00:22:31,954 Speaker 1: I used to add a tiny bit of translucent to 496 00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:35,354 Speaker 1: like one of my creamy ellipsticks and just like, yeah, 497 00:22:35,514 --> 00:22:38,394 Speaker 1: play around with what you've got and how it goes 498 00:22:38,434 --> 00:22:48,033 Speaker 1: throughout the day. Already, my friend, we both have beauty 499 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,273 Speaker 1: bites hair related we do. 500 00:22:50,474 --> 00:22:52,674 Speaker 3: I'm very into playing with my hair at the moment. Okay, 501 00:22:52,754 --> 00:22:54,194 Speaker 3: I've got to get a hair type for one, so 502 00:22:54,314 --> 00:22:56,314 Speaker 3: you go first. Well, you know how, I'm a giver. 503 00:22:56,714 --> 00:23:01,033 Speaker 1: Yes, When I went to Queensland for New Year's I 504 00:23:01,154 --> 00:23:06,754 Speaker 1: packed seventy five thousand sunscreens, a hair mask, some bugs, 505 00:23:06,754 --> 00:23:09,754 Speaker 1: brain on els, and then my hair was so filthy 506 00:23:09,794 --> 00:23:11,594 Speaker 1: and we'd like go swimming all dayments to mint creegs, 507 00:23:11,914 --> 00:23:13,354 Speaker 1: and we want to just go out to dinner. I mean, 508 00:23:13,394 --> 00:23:16,434 Speaker 1: who cares? But I just wanted to do a slicked hairstyle. 509 00:23:17,034 --> 00:23:19,314 Speaker 1: I didn't want to waste my hair mask anymore because 510 00:23:19,314 --> 00:23:20,874 Speaker 1: I've been using it when I was going swimming and 511 00:23:20,914 --> 00:23:22,954 Speaker 1: I just wanted really slipped, so I had. I'm not 512 00:23:22,994 --> 00:23:27,434 Speaker 1: recommending these as sunscreen, TGA. I'm not recommending them as sunscreen, 513 00:23:27,474 --> 00:23:29,754 Speaker 1: but I had these two in my bag. One's called 514 00:23:29,794 --> 00:23:32,794 Speaker 1: a bib Quick Sunstick Protected BI it's be a fifty 515 00:23:32,834 --> 00:23:36,754 Speaker 1: pus and the other one is Beauty of Josilene Matt sunstick. 516 00:23:37,674 --> 00:23:39,154 Speaker 1: I use this one, but you can probably use both. 517 00:23:39,154 --> 00:23:41,074 Speaker 1: I just pulled out this morning and it's literally like 518 00:23:41,154 --> 00:23:43,714 Speaker 1: hair gel. And then the next day, well, what are 519 00:23:43,754 --> 00:23:47,834 Speaker 1: you doing? You just go UV protector. Yes, and it's 520 00:23:47,874 --> 00:23:50,434 Speaker 1: so deuicy and delicious. Well not really, Oh my god, 521 00:23:50,674 --> 00:23:52,834 Speaker 1: I know, so cool. I haven't tried that other one 522 00:23:52,874 --> 00:23:54,793 Speaker 1: because it's mad and it's really good for flyaways. So 523 00:23:54,834 --> 00:23:57,634 Speaker 1: if you are kind of out, because it will protect 524 00:23:57,634 --> 00:23:59,434 Speaker 1: your hair. You can even do a special thing down 525 00:23:59,474 --> 00:24:02,194 Speaker 1: your scalp. Yeah, because what's the difference between that and 526 00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:02,914 Speaker 1: hair gel? 527 00:24:03,114 --> 00:24:05,674 Speaker 3: Well, I think hair gel has like staying power and 528 00:24:05,674 --> 00:24:08,154 Speaker 3: it makes it well yeah, but you literally don't need it. 529 00:24:08,194 --> 00:24:09,314 Speaker 1: You just need it to smooth. 530 00:24:09,474 --> 00:24:12,754 Speaker 6: Yes, good right, mcguy by. 531 00:24:12,834 --> 00:24:13,234 Speaker 4: I know. 532 00:24:13,874 --> 00:24:15,914 Speaker 1: And then if you're going out at nighttime and you 533 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:17,754 Speaker 1: just want a bit of a shimmer, like your legs 534 00:24:17,754 --> 00:24:19,874 Speaker 1: to shine in the nightclub, like I got to nightclubs, 535 00:24:19,994 --> 00:24:21,274 Speaker 1: you just run it down your shin. 536 00:24:21,554 --> 00:24:24,714 Speaker 3: Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. Two for the price of one. There 537 00:24:24,714 --> 00:24:27,834 Speaker 3: dot three for the price of one. What are you 538 00:24:27,874 --> 00:24:31,314 Speaker 3: gonna teach us? Well, I need to mcguiva my seat, oh, 539 00:24:31,514 --> 00:24:33,914 Speaker 3: because I feel like This is definitely one for YouTube. 540 00:24:33,674 --> 00:24:35,714 Speaker 1: Show and tell. Okay, I will try and describe what 541 00:24:35,794 --> 00:24:37,754 Speaker 1: Kelly's doing. Okay, she's about to lie down on the 542 00:24:37,794 --> 00:24:40,834 Speaker 1: chair and mcguy bring my my. Oh okay, she's now 543 00:24:40,874 --> 00:24:43,074 Speaker 1: got the back to the camera because she's going to 544 00:24:43,114 --> 00:24:44,794 Speaker 1: try and show it. Do or got the money from 545 00:24:44,834 --> 00:24:47,273 Speaker 1: the back my mouth? Yeah? Why don't I explain it? 546 00:24:47,474 --> 00:24:47,754 Speaker 6: Well? 547 00:24:48,074 --> 00:24:52,754 Speaker 3: Explain for short hair, it is so hard to do 548 00:24:52,794 --> 00:24:54,833 Speaker 3: a bun without getting little spindlies down. 549 00:24:55,074 --> 00:24:57,394 Speaker 1: I still have a mullet and my hair is longer 550 00:24:57,394 --> 00:24:57,834 Speaker 1: than yours. 551 00:24:57,874 --> 00:24:58,594 Speaker 6: Now I've hacked. 552 00:24:58,634 --> 00:25:02,154 Speaker 1: It drives me insane. Oh what, okay, I can't describe. 553 00:25:02,154 --> 00:25:02,914 Speaker 1: I've got a patent. 554 00:25:03,114 --> 00:25:06,234 Speaker 3: You do a half up, half down, except mainly half five. Yeah, 555 00:25:06,234 --> 00:25:08,034 Speaker 3: it's two thirds up bottom yep. 556 00:25:08,114 --> 00:25:10,434 Speaker 1: And then you do further down than the crown, but 557 00:25:10,514 --> 00:25:11,154 Speaker 1: not the nape. 558 00:25:11,274 --> 00:25:12,954 Speaker 3: You do like a little what's it call when you 559 00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:15,394 Speaker 3: do like a little half bun thing, you like a loopy, 560 00:25:15,594 --> 00:25:17,474 Speaker 3: like a loopy, I don't know, you're doing a pony tap. 561 00:25:17,514 --> 00:25:21,674 Speaker 3: But then at the end you loop the hair tye. Yes, okay, 562 00:25:21,794 --> 00:25:24,314 Speaker 3: so it does require one hair tie. 563 00:25:24,994 --> 00:25:26,874 Speaker 1: It's just very on the fly, isn't it? Hang on? 564 00:25:28,274 --> 00:25:28,474 Speaker 4: Oh? 565 00:25:28,554 --> 00:25:30,794 Speaker 1: No, I see. I'm so I don't have it. I'm 566 00:25:30,834 --> 00:25:33,314 Speaker 1: so close to just needing one. Sorry, No, don't worry 567 00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:35,314 Speaker 1: about it. Then I will just show you, because I 568 00:25:35,354 --> 00:25:37,834 Speaker 1: will show you with one side. Okay, good, then you 569 00:25:37,874 --> 00:25:40,354 Speaker 1: get it. Everyone must watch what is down the. 570 00:25:40,314 --> 00:25:44,114 Speaker 3: Bottom, leftover hair, the really short hairs that usually just 571 00:25:44,194 --> 00:25:45,474 Speaker 3: end up coming out like a mule. 572 00:25:45,514 --> 00:25:49,314 Speaker 1: Like pippylong stockings, pigtails. But just the use of your. 573 00:25:49,234 --> 00:25:51,914 Speaker 3: Neck, you wrap half of your hair around the bun 574 00:25:52,154 --> 00:25:54,194 Speaker 3: that wouldn't work for me and pin it into place, 575 00:25:54,714 --> 00:25:57,314 Speaker 3: and then you do the other half and then pin 576 00:25:57,434 --> 00:26:00,874 Speaker 3: that into place. I must find but you can see 577 00:26:00,914 --> 00:26:01,313 Speaker 3: what I mean. 578 00:26:01,354 --> 00:26:04,033 Speaker 1: I'm just holding it into place, okay, And it looks 579 00:26:04,154 --> 00:26:06,554 Speaker 1: like like an effortless but it's a bun. 580 00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:08,514 Speaker 3: And it is not the sort of bun that people 581 00:26:08,554 --> 00:26:11,154 Speaker 3: think that they can do when they've got short hair, 582 00:26:11,514 --> 00:26:12,754 Speaker 3: because you end up with little bits. 583 00:26:12,754 --> 00:26:14,554 Speaker 1: Because I've only been able to do the loopy loop 584 00:26:14,634 --> 00:26:17,513 Speaker 1: thing for ages. Yep, that was very cool. Did you 585 00:26:17,514 --> 00:26:17,914 Speaker 1: invent that? 586 00:26:18,794 --> 00:26:21,954 Speaker 3: No? Oh, I saw it on one of the apps. 587 00:26:23,874 --> 00:26:25,594 Speaker 1: I can't wait for them to make this clip into 588 00:26:25,634 --> 00:26:26,394 Speaker 1: a social. 589 00:26:26,514 --> 00:26:28,114 Speaker 6: Look at me and my George. 590 00:26:28,194 --> 00:26:31,034 Speaker 1: I know that was very cool. Well, on that note, 591 00:26:31,034 --> 00:26:35,394 Speaker 1: that was a very hairy episode. Oh, we will be 592 00:26:35,434 --> 00:26:38,874 Speaker 1: back on Friday to tell you about four fabulous things each. 593 00:26:39,314 --> 00:26:41,194 Speaker 3: We will and in the meantime you can find us 594 00:26:41,234 --> 00:26:42,274 Speaker 3: on TikTok and. 595 00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:44,874 Speaker 1: You can see Kelly tomorrow and here Kelly tomorrow. 596 00:26:44,714 --> 00:26:48,434 Speaker 3: You can where I'll be interviewing someone fabulous for the formula. 597 00:26:48,434 --> 00:26:50,314 Speaker 1: I've had a very good street Lely sad by the counter. 598 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:52,874 Speaker 1: Oh Chef's kiss amazing, See soon. 599 00:26:52,794 --> 00:27:04,354 Speaker 4: Ubies, Bye, Mommy. 600 00:27:04,474 --> 00:27:06,994 Speaker 3: Acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We have recorded 601 00:27:06,994 --> 00:27:09,674 Speaker 3: this podcast on the Gadigal people of the Euron nation. 602 00:27:10,314 --> 00:27:13,354 Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present, 603 00:27:13,874 --> 00:27:17,674 Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander cultures.