Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
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Speaker 3: I am pregnant.
Speaker 4: Welcome to Hello Bump.
Speaker 2: We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and more manageable.
Speaker 4: I'm Grace River.
Speaker 2: I'm pregnant for the first time, and my bump is
Speaker 2: now noticeable.
Speaker 4: I think definitely to me, and.
Speaker 1: I'm out of Himan.
Speaker 3: I'm a former olympian, and I'm a mother of six,
Speaker 3: and I'm now training to be an obstrician, so.
Speaker 1: I get to deliver your babies. It's very, very cool.
Speaker 2: Each episode, Deanna and I will be holding your hand
Speaker 2: week by week through the mysterious, perplexing, and sometimes bumpy
Speaker 2: miracle that is pregnancy.
Speaker 4: Week fifteen, Yanna, what size is our baby? Are we
Speaker 4: still a fruit? Are we in the orchard still?
Speaker 3: I mean, I can call it a pair because that's
Speaker 3: what I've got written down here, But we can change
Speaker 3: to pringles if you like.
Speaker 1: A small cat of pringles is avertising.
Speaker 4: That feels more on brand for what I'm consuming, or a.
Speaker 1: Whiskey glass not what you should be consuming.
Speaker 4: I've got a cassette mixtape because love, that's the size
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if you want to picture it yourself though,
Speaker 3: you can actually hold your fist up, so it's actually
Speaker 3: around similar sizing your fist, huh, like the size of
Speaker 3: a uterus.
Speaker 4: So, and how have they grown this week?
Speaker 3: Importantly this week babies bones in their ears are starting
Speaker 3: to develop, so they might start soon being out of here.
Speaker 3: Now that's when when you say here people, Oh, does
Speaker 3: that mean they can hear my voice? No, they can
Speaker 3: hear what's going on inside your uterus, which is not
Speaker 3: much blood flow, beatn vibration, vibrations. Yeah, so there's not
Speaker 3: you know, soon they will be out here more and
Speaker 3: more and more and more. But at this point they're
Speaker 3: at least starting to work and their little body is
Speaker 3: now starting to catch the size of their head. So
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember from the olt they've done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're starting to look again more human like.
Speaker 2: And they're still but they're quite curled up still still
Speaker 2: curls have an unfilled yet love it No, not yet,
Speaker 2: soon soon soon?
Speaker 4: What hap? What's happening to me? And what is happening
Speaker 4: with our body?
Speaker 3: Well, you know how we talked about that hot glow?
Speaker 3: It should be coming more now. So this is the
Speaker 3: time most women feel the best in their pregnancy because
Speaker 3: most of the nausea is sort of reducing for most
Speaker 3: I know that there's I know there's people shaking their
Speaker 3: heads at me right now and going, that's a load
Speaker 3: of grape yarn because I feel terrible. But for the
Speaker 3: vast majority, that should be improving. You should be feeling
Speaker 3: a bit more energized, and that pregnancy glow should be
Speaker 3: coming in a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Is this normal? Is normal?
Speaker 2: Does everyone get the like your hair stop shedding? Is
Speaker 2: that everyone in pregnancy or.
Speaker 3: Most people, most of us say they're thickened through that
Speaker 3: and then they have that horrible Please be prepared after birth.
Speaker 3: Your your pillow is covered in hairs. All that lovely
Speaker 3: volume you're now creating very promptly decides.
Speaker 1: To fall out when you're when you're postpartum.
Speaker 2: And most women find that quite overwhelming because it does
Speaker 2: feel like they're boarding. But ideally we shed what one
Speaker 2: hundred hairs a day, and you're just not shodding much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I remember it was clumps you brush your
Speaker 3: hair and looked like half my head was coming off,
Speaker 3: And I was better of and for some It actually
Speaker 3: does have sort of an alopecius sort of picture where
Speaker 3: they do lose so much you can notice it. But
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully you're home bonding with your baby through
Speaker 3: that period, but you'll also notice and when we're getting
Speaker 3: ahead of OURSELVESI but a lot of new growth as
Speaker 3: well of hair in pregnancy and then that postpart and
Speaker 3: once it's fallen out, you'll get a lot of that
Speaker 3: new short hair, nice healthy hair to come back again.
Speaker 4: It's like everything is terrible, everything is normal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well your nails get really nice and strong now,
Speaker 3: so they usually get lots longer and stronger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got that. I do have.
Speaker 2: I want to know about food, coffee, tea. I'm not
Speaker 2: a massive coffee person anyway, because it affects me quite
Speaker 2: in an anxious way. But in terms of tea, like
Speaker 2: I look up how many cups of tea can I have?
Speaker 2: The Internet says only two hundred milligrams of caffeine, And
Speaker 2: then I was like, oh, but a cup is like
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty milligrams, but that's not a full
Speaker 2: cup of caffeine. Like, what's the breakdown of coffee and
Speaker 2: tea and how many you can have and.
Speaker 3: Look, I remember this is all guidelines and it's really
Speaker 3: interesting because the rams, which the college I am starting under,
Speaker 3: will give you very specific do not eat soft cheeses, eat,
Speaker 3: do not drink coffee, stop your alcohol, because that's what
Speaker 3: the guidelines say, The guidelines and the research says, don't
Speaker 3: have these things because we know it can have well
Speaker 3: actually it's what we don't know it does to the baby,
Speaker 3: So it could have a potential what we call triatogenic,
Speaker 3: which means problem for the baby and cause problems with
Speaker 3: its growth or its brain development. So the restrictions of
Speaker 3: the guidelines are there to guide you on what you do.
Speaker 3: We also live in different countries like for example, soft cheeses.
Speaker 3: In Australia, all of our cheese, if you buy it
Speaker 3: from Allies, for example, is pasteurize. You can actually turn
Speaker 3: the cheese over and you can see that it says
Speaker 3: pasteurized milk. And that was the main concern in the
Speaker 3: past is that the processing of that cheese wasn't safe
Speaker 3: enough that salmonella, for example, one of the biggest concerns
Speaker 3: we have, could be in the cheese. You subsequently eat
Speaker 3: it and then it could cause pretty catastrophic problems for
Speaker 3: the pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Caffeine. As you said, maximum two hundred. You have done
Speaker 1: your research.
Speaker 3: But a shot, for example, only has eighty milligrams of
Speaker 3: caffeine in it, So theoretically you could have two shots of.
Speaker 1: Little tiny shots of coffee and you'd be okay.
Speaker 3: Tea varies, black cheese can be sometimes eighty. Sometimes there
Speaker 3: are only fifteen or extme millograms, so it kind of
Speaker 3: depends what you're taking. Weirdly, instant coffee can have up
Speaker 3: to one hundred and fifty milligrams of caffeine, so I
Speaker 3: would have thought, yeah, I would have thought, like a
Speaker 3: shot from the cop like from barrista, is going to
Speaker 3: have more.
Speaker 1: It depends.
Speaker 3: So the hard part is I think, if you limit
Speaker 3: yourself to one coffee a day because you like it
Speaker 3: and it helps your mood and you feel nice, go
Speaker 3: for it. But again, guys, that's just me. If you're
Speaker 3: obstetrition or someone has specifically said stay away from it
Speaker 3: things for example, if you have a racing heart and
Speaker 3: or a reason why you might want want to have
Speaker 3: your coffee, then don't. But remember these are all guidelines.
Speaker 3: There's heaps of great resources online. My college has a
Speaker 3: good one. You go on Raandsco. They've got lots of
Speaker 3: options for pregnancy to have a look at, and you
Speaker 3: decide what's right for you. And I bet your obstetrican
Speaker 3: will be different from the one on there, because mine
Speaker 3: said eat whatever you watch like.
Speaker 1: He was so, yeah, he was so.
Speaker 3: He'd been an obstrition for thirty forty years, my first one.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't care about eating cheeses. You
Speaker 3: can eat your eggs, just don't eat raw fish.
Speaker 2: I'm like, on this same train of thought, why are
Speaker 2: baths like illegal.
Speaker 1: Overheating?
Speaker 3: So your a little one inside can't regulate its own
Speaker 3: body temperature. It relies on you to do that. So
Speaker 3: you feel nice and hot and warm and really enjoy
Speaker 3: the hot, hot bath, and they just get too hot inside.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's basically if you can imagine if
Speaker 3: you set yourself in the sun and basically didn't have
Speaker 3: an ability to get out of that heat. And so
Speaker 3: we say, look, lukewarm, bards are usually so hot. Showers
Speaker 3: are fine, but just keep an eye on your temperature.
Speaker 3: I might share a little anecdote here. So I was
Speaker 3: training through the Olympics for my first pregnancy, running very
Speaker 3: hard and we use rectoral temperature because we knew that
Speaker 3: was close to the training, so I would train. I
Speaker 3: didn't even monitor my heart beat, which is what a
Speaker 3: lot of athletes did. I actually monitored my internal body temperature,
Speaker 3: which is disgusting and growth, but it allowed me to
Speaker 3: actually make sure I wasn't overheating. So we'd check oral
Speaker 3: and rectoral temperature to make sure my body wasn't overheating.
Speaker 3: That's how important temperature is to the growing baby.
Speaker 4: Is the ten minute rule a safe for all?
Speaker 2: My little anecdote is that I did go to Japan, yeah,
Speaker 2: in my second trimester, and there's Onsen's there, and I
Speaker 2: did go in them for ten minutes, and then I
Speaker 2: came out after that because of not because I was like,
Speaker 2: the Internet told me that it's okay, it's Google. I
Speaker 2: know now I feel like I'm confessing to you, but
Speaker 2: that is a time limit safe.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm probably not experienced enough to be able
Speaker 3: to I haven't done research in that space, but to me,
Speaker 3: just as a mother to you, I can't see how
Speaker 3: that'd be a concern because ten minutes is not going
Speaker 3: to give time for everything to heat up. And I
Speaker 3: mean I've reason to be in Japan as well, and
Speaker 3: the on sense were lovely and warm, but they weren't
Speaker 3: boiling hot. I didn't get out your skin's nott red,
Speaker 3: So he's one of the things to look at. Ten
Speaker 3: minutes is such a short period of time. And if
Speaker 3: it was Japan in December, you then go out in
Speaker 3: the cold, so I think you probably reregulated your body
Speaker 3: temperature pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I came out and I was like, I've had
Speaker 4: showers hotter than that. It's fine. I remember all those.
Speaker 3: People that didn't even know they were pregnant this stage,
Speaker 3: we're all having hot barts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we need to just give ourselves
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bloke.
Speaker 2: There lots of doos and dons. But speaking of doos
Speaker 2: and dons, what can we do.
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I think at this point is a wonderful time to
Speaker 3: engage in a pregnancy massage. On that note, you love
Speaker 3: your feet massages, but a nice professional one outside of
Speaker 3: the home who specializes in pregnancy you can also be
Speaker 3: really good for that aching back that's like starting to
Speaker 3: start kicking in soon too a little bit.
Speaker 4: My key take, that's a great one.
Speaker 2: My toolkit for this week is putting vitamins into a smoothie.
Speaker 4: Yes, so you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Swallow them sometimes if it depending on if your gag reflex,
Speaker 2: whatever is happening to you. But also mixing that with
Speaker 2: a bit of protein powder so you're staying full for longer.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine not having had high premises like you.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine when those pills regurgitate on you, because
Speaker 3: I don't like that at the best of time, learn
Speaker 3: if you feel nauseous. So I think that's that's a
Speaker 3: lovely takeaway. Yeah, yeah, I'll give that to some.
Speaker 1: Of my patients.
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