1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,674 --> 00:00:21,593 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop 3 00:00:21,634 --> 00:00:23,754 Speaker 2: culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick. 4 00:00:23,434 --> 00:00:25,394 Speaker 1: And I'm Dana Previs and coming. 5 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:27,914 Speaker 2: Up on the show today. One of our favorite rom coms, 6 00:00:27,914 --> 00:00:29,474 Speaker 2: and I think I can speak to the entire world 7 00:00:29,514 --> 00:00:33,114 Speaker 2: when I say that is getting rebooted, and we have 8 00:00:33,234 --> 00:00:35,354 Speaker 2: some strong opinions on that. I think we might have 9 00:00:35,354 --> 00:00:37,913 Speaker 2: different I think we might things like get brutal and 10 00:00:37,914 --> 00:00:39,633 Speaker 2: you know what, that's just what. That's the energy that 11 00:00:39,714 --> 00:00:42,793 Speaker 2: rom comms bring out in people. Plus their Hannah Montana 12 00:00:42,994 --> 00:00:46,074 Speaker 2: twentieth anniversary special. Am I speaking the language of your people? 13 00:00:46,153 --> 00:00:49,394 Speaker 2: Is I correct? Yes? I have premier last night. There's 14 00:00:49,434 --> 00:00:51,473 Speaker 2: been a lot of feedback, a lot of emotion, a 15 00:00:51,473 --> 00:00:53,233 Speaker 2: lot of behind the scenes news. We're going to get 16 00:00:53,233 --> 00:00:55,834 Speaker 2: into the biggest reveals from that, but first we woke 17 00:00:55,914 --> 00:00:58,394 Speaker 2: up to some very exciting news from Netflix on who 18 00:00:58,434 --> 00:01:01,154 Speaker 2: was going to be starring in the next season of Bridgeton. 19 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:04,994 Speaker 1: I feel like disappointed. Really yeah, I was really hoping 20 00:01:05,034 --> 00:01:06,354 Speaker 1: Eloise was going to be next. 21 00:01:06,394 --> 00:01:08,074 Speaker 2: Oh okay. I feel like at the end of the 22 00:01:08,114 --> 00:01:09,673 Speaker 2: season they were kind of setting it up that it 23 00:01:09,674 --> 00:01:12,234 Speaker 2: could be Eloise, or it could be Francesca, but it 24 00:01:12,394 --> 00:01:15,154 Speaker 2: has to be Francesca because I just feel like the 25 00:01:15,234 --> 00:01:19,434 Speaker 2: momentum from her storyline was so set with her and Mikayla, 26 00:01:19,914 --> 00:01:22,274 Speaker 2: and you just kind of ended on this note at 27 00:01:22,274 --> 00:01:24,154 Speaker 2: the wedding, Like at the final scene of the wedding 28 00:01:24,154 --> 00:01:25,874 Speaker 2: when they say to her, would you ever marry again? 29 00:01:26,234 --> 00:01:28,514 Speaker 2: And she just says, no, I've already had my great love. 30 00:01:28,834 --> 00:01:31,074 Speaker 2: I would never do that again. And we as the audience, 31 00:01:31,154 --> 00:01:33,594 Speaker 2: know that her great love is still coming. We can't 32 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:36,194 Speaker 2: wait three years for that. We're already gonna have to 33 00:01:36,194 --> 00:01:37,394 Speaker 2: wait over a year for this. 34 00:01:37,594 --> 00:01:40,514 Speaker 3: I'm personally invested because I feel very connected to Eloise. 35 00:01:40,554 --> 00:01:42,634 Speaker 3: I feel like she's just seeing everyone around her fall 36 00:01:42,674 --> 00:01:44,594 Speaker 3: in love and I strongly relate to that. 37 00:01:44,794 --> 00:01:46,714 Speaker 2: No, I know, but she doesn't want to be in love, 38 00:01:47,234 --> 00:01:49,154 Speaker 2: and I wish they would be brazen, brave enough to 39 00:01:49,234 --> 00:01:52,354 Speaker 2: let her have No, it's a different thing. She feels 40 00:01:52,354 --> 00:01:54,194 Speaker 2: like marriage is going to and like, part of me 41 00:01:54,394 --> 00:01:56,914 Speaker 2: loves the idea that Eloise is obviously going to find 42 00:01:57,354 --> 00:01:59,834 Speaker 2: someone that she loves, just especially because it's how Netflix 43 00:01:59,834 --> 00:02:02,714 Speaker 2: Bridgeton works, like it's very frothy, but part of me 44 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:04,594 Speaker 2: just wishes that they would find a way to, like 45 00:02:04,674 --> 00:02:07,994 Speaker 2: just let her be a happy spince stuff, let her live. 46 00:02:08,114 --> 00:02:09,754 Speaker 2: But I know that's not the point of the show. 47 00:02:09,834 --> 00:02:12,154 Speaker 2: So yes, there's been a lot of speculation over who 48 00:02:12,234 --> 00:02:14,434 Speaker 2: was going to be the lead of the next season, 49 00:02:14,633 --> 00:02:17,434 Speaker 2: and so Netflix released a statement today saying that it 50 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:20,834 Speaker 2: is Hannah Dodd, who of course plays a Francesca Bridgeton 51 00:02:20,954 --> 00:02:23,874 Speaker 2: or Francesca kil Martin as of the last series, and 52 00:02:23,914 --> 00:02:27,594 Speaker 2: that her love interest will be Michaela played by Masleye Baduza. 53 00:02:28,234 --> 00:02:31,073 Speaker 2: And while Bridgeton has had same sex romances as part 54 00:02:31,074 --> 00:02:33,474 Speaker 2: of the show before, this is the first time it's 55 00:02:33,514 --> 00:02:36,474 Speaker 2: going to be the central storyline which Hannah Dodd has 56 00:02:36,514 --> 00:02:39,194 Speaker 2: come out and said that these sorts of love stories 57 00:02:39,234 --> 00:02:43,034 Speaker 2: have been traditionally excluded from period dramas, but queer people 58 00:02:43,074 --> 00:02:46,474 Speaker 2: have always existed, they will always exist, and they deserve 59 00:02:46,554 --> 00:02:48,154 Speaker 2: a love story like everyone else. 60 00:02:48,914 --> 00:02:50,874 Speaker 3: I do think it is really nice to bring that 61 00:02:50,914 --> 00:02:53,994 Speaker 3: into the Bridgeston world. I think they do diversity really well, 62 00:02:54,074 --> 00:02:57,914 Speaker 3: and you know, showing these communities, so I can see 63 00:02:58,154 --> 00:03:00,834 Speaker 3: why they've gone this direction, and I'm excited for it. 64 00:03:00,874 --> 00:03:01,914 Speaker 1: I think you're really sweet. 65 00:03:01,954 --> 00:03:06,434 Speaker 3: The trailer the teaser that they had, it was so sweet. 66 00:03:06,634 --> 00:03:08,633 Speaker 2: So what we do know is that this season of 67 00:03:08,674 --> 00:03:11,154 Speaker 2: Bridgeton is going to pick up two years after the 68 00:03:11,154 --> 00:03:14,834 Speaker 2: events of this past season, and Francesca has decided to 69 00:03:14,914 --> 00:03:18,394 Speaker 2: re enter the marriage mark for practical reasons because as 70 00:03:18,474 --> 00:03:20,274 Speaker 2: we know, like you know, even as a widow, like 71 00:03:20,314 --> 00:03:22,474 Speaker 2: you have a bit more power and freedom than a spinster, 72 00:03:22,834 --> 00:03:25,754 Speaker 2: but not really like she does need the kind of well, 73 00:03:25,754 --> 00:03:27,234 Speaker 2: the thing is, she still has to be like that 74 00:03:27,314 --> 00:03:29,114 Speaker 2: means she still has to like listen to her brothers, 75 00:03:29,154 --> 00:03:31,234 Speaker 2: or she can't control her own money, or she can't travel, 76 00:03:31,314 --> 00:03:33,474 Speaker 2: or she can't and we know that she wanted children, 77 00:03:33,554 --> 00:03:35,674 Speaker 2: So she decides to re enter the marriage mart as 78 00:03:35,714 --> 00:03:38,474 Speaker 2: more of like a business kind of thing. And then 79 00:03:38,754 --> 00:03:42,914 Speaker 2: Mikayla returns to look after the kill Martin estate after 80 00:03:42,954 --> 00:03:46,714 Speaker 2: Francesca's husband very sadly passed away, and when the two 81 00:03:46,754 --> 00:03:49,794 Speaker 2: women kind of meet again and now that the passing 82 00:03:49,794 --> 00:03:51,994 Speaker 2: of John is like a few years gone, then they 83 00:03:52,034 --> 00:03:53,954 Speaker 2: start to have these feelings for each other. 84 00:03:54,154 --> 00:03:55,874 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a really beautiful story 85 00:03:55,914 --> 00:03:57,674 Speaker 3: and I love that about the world of Bridges and 86 00:03:57,674 --> 00:03:58,914 Speaker 3: how we get to see a little bit of a 87 00:03:58,914 --> 00:04:01,434 Speaker 3: sneak peek of the characters and the direction they're going, 88 00:04:01,834 --> 00:04:04,394 Speaker 3: so you have such a connection by the time the 89 00:04:04,434 --> 00:04:05,794 Speaker 3: next season comes around. 90 00:04:06,354 --> 00:04:09,234 Speaker 2: I'm just so interested of how they're going to make 91 00:04:09,274 --> 00:04:12,634 Speaker 2: this work. I can't picture it in my mind how 92 00:04:12,754 --> 00:04:15,274 Speaker 2: because we know that with Bridgeton, the one thing is 93 00:04:15,314 --> 00:04:17,354 Speaker 2: that they have to have a happy ending. The core 94 00:04:17,433 --> 00:04:19,553 Speaker 2: couple have to get together at the end, and for 95 00:04:19,634 --> 00:04:22,633 Speaker 2: every season so far that has meant that they happily 96 00:04:22,674 --> 00:04:25,074 Speaker 2: get together. They have the big wedding, all their family 97 00:04:25,154 --> 00:04:27,513 Speaker 2: is there, they have their house together, they have children, 98 00:04:27,513 --> 00:04:30,473 Speaker 2: which is everything we know Francesca wants. And I know 99 00:04:30,553 --> 00:04:33,113 Speaker 2: that there was an obstacle with Sophie and Benedict, with her, 100 00:04:33,474 --> 00:04:35,513 Speaker 2: you know, being a servant and not being a noble woman, 101 00:04:35,794 --> 00:04:37,914 Speaker 2: but there was still a world even before they found 102 00:04:37,914 --> 00:04:39,714 Speaker 2: out she had that secret fortune all that sort of stuff. 103 00:04:39,753 --> 00:04:41,553 Speaker 2: There was still a world where they could be together 104 00:04:41,914 --> 00:04:44,953 Speaker 2: and just not be in society. There's no way in 105 00:04:44,993 --> 00:04:47,794 Speaker 2: the British and world unless they completely go on a 106 00:04:47,794 --> 00:04:51,354 Speaker 2: fantasy track. There's no way that Francesca and Michaela can 107 00:04:51,393 --> 00:04:54,033 Speaker 2: be together, can get married. I'm assuming they'll just have 108 00:04:54,113 --> 00:04:56,113 Speaker 2: them go off and like live in secret together, which 109 00:04:56,113 --> 00:04:57,954 Speaker 2: as long as they're together is perfect. But I'm just 110 00:04:58,034 --> 00:05:00,194 Speaker 2: interested of how they do that fairy tale ending. 111 00:05:00,034 --> 00:05:01,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, how they tied up at a nice bow. 112 00:05:01,674 --> 00:05:05,154 Speaker 3: And I also wonder if audiences are receptive to that, 113 00:05:05,234 --> 00:05:08,714 Speaker 3: like season after season obviously this will be the fifth season, yeah, 114 00:05:08,753 --> 00:05:11,034 Speaker 3: and how that goes in terms of like the audience 115 00:05:11,073 --> 00:05:12,553 Speaker 3: staying on the journey, like do. 116 00:05:12,513 --> 00:05:14,313 Speaker 1: They want to keep seeing a happy ending? 117 00:05:14,674 --> 00:05:16,234 Speaker 3: Maybe this will be like a little bit of a 118 00:05:16,234 --> 00:05:17,873 Speaker 3: shift from what we've seen in the past. 119 00:05:18,313 --> 00:05:20,234 Speaker 2: There's obviously a way they know that they can do 120 00:05:20,313 --> 00:05:23,274 Speaker 2: it to give audiences that fulfillment, but it just can't 121 00:05:23,313 --> 00:05:26,354 Speaker 2: be the way that the other Bridgitton siblings have had 122 00:05:26,393 --> 00:05:28,553 Speaker 2: their love stories end. But I just think for it 123 00:05:28,553 --> 00:05:31,474 Speaker 2: to be a true happy ending, Francesca needs all of 124 00:05:31,474 --> 00:05:33,713 Speaker 2: her family to be at the wedding and to be 125 00:05:33,714 --> 00:05:35,593 Speaker 2: supportive of it, which I'm sure they would, But also 126 00:05:35,674 --> 00:05:38,393 Speaker 2: it's I know that they take some leniency in Bridgington 127 00:05:38,513 --> 00:05:41,553 Speaker 2: with like the time period and which customs they honor 128 00:05:41,594 --> 00:05:44,313 Speaker 2: and which laws they honor, but I'm pretty sure in 129 00:05:44,393 --> 00:05:47,234 Speaker 2: this world of Bridgington, same sex marriage is still like 130 00:05:47,354 --> 00:05:50,993 Speaker 2: not even just frowned upon, but just completely like not allowed, 131 00:05:51,154 --> 00:05:52,674 Speaker 2: especially in like high society. 132 00:05:52,873 --> 00:05:55,393 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen some commentary as well around it, how 133 00:05:55,474 --> 00:05:57,954 Speaker 3: it's going to be like more of a celebration of 134 00:05:57,993 --> 00:06:00,873 Speaker 3: like the queer experience than yeah, the trauma. So I 135 00:06:00,993 --> 00:06:04,313 Speaker 3: wonder if they will be kind of have that conversation 136 00:06:04,553 --> 00:06:08,113 Speaker 3: where it is a controversy within the ton Like you said, 137 00:06:08,193 --> 00:06:10,193 Speaker 3: they're just going to like glaze over it, which I 138 00:06:10,193 --> 00:06:12,033 Speaker 3: don't imagine is possible to do. 139 00:06:12,553 --> 00:06:15,113 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because the thing is you can't have 140 00:06:15,154 --> 00:06:17,113 Speaker 2: a queer couple and then not give them the same 141 00:06:17,513 --> 00:06:20,433 Speaker 2: big romantic TV show happy ending that all the other 142 00:06:20,513 --> 00:06:23,474 Speaker 2: couple's got, Like you can't have it, their ending feel 143 00:06:23,513 --> 00:06:27,993 Speaker 2: like less celebratory. So I'm assuming that the British and 144 00:06:28,034 --> 00:06:30,234 Speaker 2: family will be aware and they'll be accepting and happy, 145 00:06:30,474 --> 00:06:32,833 Speaker 2: and that they'll be away from Michaela and Francesca to 146 00:06:32,914 --> 00:06:36,714 Speaker 2: like live happily together and have a home together without 147 00:06:36,714 --> 00:06:39,594 Speaker 2: it sort of being public knowledge. And Francesca, out of 148 00:06:39,594 --> 00:06:41,073 Speaker 2: all of them, is the one who doesn't like going 149 00:06:41,113 --> 00:06:42,993 Speaker 2: into society and stuff, so she's not going to be 150 00:06:43,154 --> 00:06:44,713 Speaker 2: as upset if like they have to go live in 151 00:06:44,714 --> 00:06:47,674 Speaker 2: the country or go back to the Scotland estate or something. 152 00:06:48,193 --> 00:06:50,193 Speaker 2: So Yeah, I'm interested to see how they do it. 153 00:06:50,234 --> 00:06:52,433 Speaker 2: But I think I'm the most excited for this season. 154 00:06:52,513 --> 00:06:52,873 Speaker 1: Really. 155 00:06:52,993 --> 00:06:55,274 Speaker 2: I think so, just because like it's been such a 156 00:06:55,313 --> 00:06:57,594 Speaker 2: slow bird. Yes, I have no idea how they're going 157 00:06:57,674 --> 00:07:00,273 Speaker 2: to do it. It's gonna like Francesco as a character 158 00:07:00,274 --> 00:07:02,234 Speaker 2: has been through so much and so I just feel 159 00:07:02,274 --> 00:07:04,994 Speaker 2: like the storytelling stakes are higher, yeah, than they've been 160 00:07:05,034 --> 00:07:06,034 Speaker 2: before for this season. 161 00:07:06,113 --> 00:07:08,273 Speaker 3: I was looking some of the comments on the teaser, 162 00:07:08,354 --> 00:07:09,754 Speaker 3: and people are really angry about it. 163 00:07:09,794 --> 00:07:11,754 Speaker 1: They're quite tired of storyline. 164 00:07:12,034 --> 00:07:14,953 Speaker 3: Those whom not watching I'm You are those. 165 00:07:14,794 --> 00:07:17,034 Speaker 2: Who wanted to get in the bin. Obviously, a lot 166 00:07:17,074 --> 00:07:18,914 Speaker 2: of those people were just upset about the gender swap 167 00:07:18,914 --> 00:07:21,794 Speaker 2: because obviously in the book Mikayla is Michael, it is 168 00:07:21,834 --> 00:07:25,074 Speaker 2: a male character, and so they've switched it out with 169 00:07:25,114 --> 00:07:27,154 Speaker 2: the blessing of Julia Quinn, who is the author, and 170 00:07:27,234 --> 00:07:29,153 Speaker 2: I feel like if Julia Quinn and Shonda Rhime's are 171 00:07:29,194 --> 00:07:30,874 Speaker 2: okay with it, then they should be okay with it. 172 00:07:31,474 --> 00:07:33,394 Speaker 2: I just think you've just seen her go through so 173 00:07:33,474 --> 00:07:35,914 Speaker 2: much sadness. Did you see your fall in love? Also, 174 00:07:36,234 --> 00:07:38,393 Speaker 2: she was going to come eventually. The whole premise of 175 00:07:38,393 --> 00:07:41,074 Speaker 2: the show is that each Bridgeton is going to get 176 00:07:41,074 --> 00:07:41,953 Speaker 2: their storylines. 177 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:44,074 Speaker 1: They're going to the merrymart don't worry exactly. 178 00:07:44,114 --> 00:07:45,914 Speaker 2: So we know that like production has started. We don't 179 00:07:45,914 --> 00:07:47,554 Speaker 2: have a date yet. It's going to be at least 180 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:53,714 Speaker 2: a year away, maybe potentially longer. So excited and now 181 00:07:53,794 --> 00:07:57,473 Speaker 2: onto some breaking news that has divided the internet, divided 182 00:07:57,514 --> 00:08:00,114 Speaker 2: the world. Someone divited us. It's divided us. It's divided 183 00:08:00,194 --> 00:08:02,474 Speaker 2: US office like people have picked sides. It's going to 184 00:08:02,554 --> 00:08:05,713 Speaker 2: get ugly out there. Netflix, who I know, I was 185 00:08:05,754 --> 00:08:07,594 Speaker 2: just really happy about but now I've got beef with them. 186 00:08:07,634 --> 00:08:10,514 Speaker 2: Now we've changed toad. Netflix has announced that they are 187 00:08:10,554 --> 00:08:14,394 Speaker 2: doing a reboot of the iconic romantic two thousand and 188 00:08:14,434 --> 00:08:18,674 Speaker 2: four comedy Suddenly thirty or thirteen going on thirty, depending 189 00:08:18,714 --> 00:08:21,074 Speaker 2: on which country, because that movie had was released under 190 00:08:21,074 --> 00:08:21,634 Speaker 2: different name. 191 00:08:21,914 --> 00:08:24,514 Speaker 3: So interesting I think even in New Zealand it was 192 00:08:24,554 --> 00:08:25,273 Speaker 3: thirteen going. 193 00:08:25,154 --> 00:08:28,033 Speaker 2: On thirty, yes, but Australia it was Suddenly thirty, which 194 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:29,474 Speaker 2: is so much the better name. 195 00:08:29,594 --> 00:08:32,113 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's there that we were. 196 00:08:32,074 --> 00:08:34,714 Speaker 2: Raised with, but like, suddenly thirty is better than thirteen 197 00:08:34,754 --> 00:08:37,194 Speaker 2: going on thirty. But to this day it could still 198 00:08:37,234 --> 00:08:39,914 Speaker 2: go either way. People still call it either names, regardless 199 00:08:39,914 --> 00:08:42,554 Speaker 2: of what you call the movie. It was an iconic movie. 200 00:08:42,594 --> 00:08:45,034 Speaker 1: It's a favorite movie. Really, that's your favorite movie, that's 201 00:08:45,034 --> 00:08:45,794 Speaker 1: my favorite movie. 202 00:08:45,914 --> 00:08:48,114 Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's up there for me, like it's 203 00:08:48,154 --> 00:08:49,634 Speaker 2: one of those movies you can just watch over and 204 00:08:49,674 --> 00:08:53,834 Speaker 2: over again. Jennifer Ghana, Mark Ruffalo. I was gonna say 205 00:08:53,994 --> 00:08:56,114 Speaker 2: everyone's seen it, but you know what my knowledge tells 206 00:08:56,114 --> 00:08:57,314 Speaker 2: me of the last couple of years. The more I 207 00:08:57,354 --> 00:08:59,794 Speaker 2: talk about movies is there's so many iconic movies that 208 00:08:59,874 --> 00:09:01,314 Speaker 2: so many people have not seen. 209 00:09:01,434 --> 00:09:02,034 Speaker 1: That's insane. 210 00:09:02,154 --> 00:09:04,114 Speaker 2: And so if you haven't seen it one, go watch 211 00:09:04,194 --> 00:09:07,874 Speaker 2: it because it's incredible. But Jennifer Ghana stars Jenna. She's 212 00:09:07,914 --> 00:09:10,674 Speaker 2: this young girl like trying to infiltrate like the mean, 213 00:09:10,914 --> 00:09:13,034 Speaker 2: you know, girls at school, and she wishes to be 214 00:09:13,114 --> 00:09:16,074 Speaker 2: thirty because she sees this magazine article that's thirty flirty 215 00:09:16,074 --> 00:09:19,754 Speaker 2: and thriving, and so a little bit of magic happens, 216 00:09:19,794 --> 00:09:21,674 Speaker 2: which we love, a rom coom with magic. And then 217 00:09:21,714 --> 00:09:24,274 Speaker 2: suddenly the thirteen year old wakes up in the body 218 00:09:24,274 --> 00:09:26,274 Speaker 2: of a thirty year old, which is Jennifer Garner, and 219 00:09:26,314 --> 00:09:28,914 Speaker 2: she's got her dream live, she's got her hot but 220 00:09:29,034 --> 00:09:31,634 Speaker 2: weird boyfriend she's got a beautiful New York apartment. She 221 00:09:31,754 --> 00:09:34,474 Speaker 2: works the magazine she's obsessed with as a kid, but 222 00:09:34,594 --> 00:09:37,154 Speaker 2: she's lost herself and she lost her best friend played 223 00:09:37,154 --> 00:09:39,274 Speaker 2: by Mark Ruffalo, and then they get together, which is 224 00:09:39,314 --> 00:09:41,194 Speaker 2: slightly problematic when you start to think about it. The 225 00:09:41,234 --> 00:09:44,714 Speaker 2: fact that you know what rom coms of the late 226 00:09:44,794 --> 00:09:47,034 Speaker 2: nineties and early two thousands taught us not to think, 227 00:09:47,434 --> 00:09:49,074 Speaker 2: and I love that, and I think, bring that's the 228 00:09:49,114 --> 00:09:51,274 Speaker 2: point when you look at movies now bring it back. 229 00:09:51,354 --> 00:09:52,953 Speaker 1: Yeah, why I think so much? 230 00:09:52,954 --> 00:09:55,834 Speaker 2: You just need to suspend sometimes disbelief and just go 231 00:09:55,994 --> 00:09:58,434 Speaker 2: into the world of the movie. And they never really 232 00:09:58,514 --> 00:10:01,034 Speaker 2: they don't have sex or anything. No, until she's an adult. 233 00:10:01,114 --> 00:10:02,514 Speaker 2: She goes back to being an adult later on. 234 00:10:03,034 --> 00:10:05,074 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think there's anything explicit. 235 00:10:05,514 --> 00:10:07,874 Speaker 2: It's no, no, no, that's something. It's a very pig almost 236 00:10:07,914 --> 00:10:11,194 Speaker 2: a g movie. So that was an iconic movie. Jennifer 237 00:10:11,234 --> 00:10:13,354 Speaker 2: Ganna started it, and it was such a big hit 238 00:10:13,434 --> 00:10:15,674 Speaker 2: at the time, and even though it followed all of 239 00:10:15,674 --> 00:10:18,634 Speaker 2: the really iconic rom com tropes, it kind of carved 240 00:10:18,634 --> 00:10:20,954 Speaker 2: out a space because you've got the iconic dance scene 241 00:10:20,994 --> 00:10:23,833 Speaker 2: to the Michael Jackson song. I remember reading it inter 242 00:10:23,914 --> 00:10:26,034 Speaker 2: you the director and him saying that they didn't have 243 00:10:26,114 --> 00:10:28,634 Speaker 2: any of those makeover fashion scenes in the movie, and 244 00:10:28,674 --> 00:10:30,714 Speaker 2: the studio their one note when they saw like the 245 00:10:30,794 --> 00:10:33,074 Speaker 2: rough draft of Suddenly thirty was like, you've got to 246 00:10:33,074 --> 00:10:35,834 Speaker 2: have a makeover scene. We cannot sell this movie without 247 00:10:35,834 --> 00:10:38,514 Speaker 2: a makeover scene. The trailer will die without it. So 248 00:10:38,514 --> 00:10:40,594 Speaker 2: that's why she has the makeover scene. And it's just 249 00:10:40,634 --> 00:10:41,234 Speaker 2: so perfect. 250 00:10:41,714 --> 00:10:43,874 Speaker 3: I love so many things about that movie, and I 251 00:10:43,914 --> 00:10:48,674 Speaker 3: feel like it's particularly important to me that it's returning because. 252 00:10:48,514 --> 00:10:52,514 Speaker 2: I'm actually durning thirty really so how springness and what 253 00:10:52,594 --> 00:10:56,274 Speaker 2: you need to do that? I say, you could just 254 00:10:56,354 --> 00:10:58,594 Speaker 2: go watch the original. Yeah, okay, So what we know 255 00:10:58,594 --> 00:11:01,514 Speaker 2: about this new movie is it's coming to Netflix. That's 256 00:11:01,514 --> 00:11:04,154 Speaker 2: already a slight red flag for me. And then it's 257 00:11:04,154 --> 00:11:07,914 Speaker 2: starring Emily Bata, who I do love from my Lady Jane. 258 00:11:07,994 --> 00:11:09,954 Speaker 2: She was great and I feel like that's her like 259 00:11:09,994 --> 00:11:12,554 Speaker 2: best and breakout role. She also did People We Meet 260 00:11:12,594 --> 00:11:14,874 Speaker 2: on Vacation and she was quite good in that. I 261 00:11:14,874 --> 00:11:17,114 Speaker 2: have my own issues with that movie. And then Logan 262 00:11:17,194 --> 00:11:19,674 Speaker 2: Lehman The Perks of being a Wallflower, but I think 263 00:11:19,674 --> 00:11:21,874 Speaker 2: most people would know him from the Percy Jackson series. 264 00:11:22,114 --> 00:11:23,874 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a good casting. 265 00:11:23,954 --> 00:11:26,274 Speaker 3: I can see like Weather of Goree Weather, but again, 266 00:11:26,474 --> 00:11:30,234 Speaker 3: big roles to fill. I absolutely love Jennifer Garda and 267 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:33,074 Speaker 3: Mark Ruffalo in the original and the chemistry that they 268 00:11:33,114 --> 00:11:36,714 Speaker 3: have on screen, So I am nervous. I do have 269 00:11:36,794 --> 00:11:41,674 Speaker 3: apprehension about it being watered down into this straight Netflix. 270 00:11:41,874 --> 00:11:43,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's my beef. And can I tell you 271 00:11:43,794 --> 00:11:45,994 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Suddenly thirty reboot, who I 272 00:11:45,994 --> 00:11:49,714 Speaker 2: had the most beef with, Yes, Jennifer Garnah. Really she's 273 00:11:49,754 --> 00:11:53,314 Speaker 2: executive producing, and I cannot I know that, Like it's 274 00:11:53,314 --> 00:11:57,074 Speaker 2: her legacy and it's her storyline, and I hope that 275 00:11:57,154 --> 00:11:59,314 Speaker 2: her involvement means it's going to be great. 276 00:11:59,354 --> 00:12:02,034 Speaker 1: That's how I felt. I fear reassured by her slapper 277 00:12:02,074 --> 00:12:02,874 Speaker 1: her name on it. 278 00:12:02,834 --> 00:12:05,074 Speaker 2: But I just think, like, do we need this reboot? 279 00:12:05,834 --> 00:12:08,434 Speaker 2: I want more rom coms in the world more than 280 00:12:08,474 --> 00:12:10,594 Speaker 2: anything else. I would take at this stage better rom 281 00:12:10,594 --> 00:12:12,874 Speaker 2: coms over finding a boyfriend myself. Like that's how high 282 00:12:12,994 --> 00:12:15,674 Speaker 2: the stakes are. You're passionate. I'm so passionate about it. 283 00:12:15,674 --> 00:12:17,874 Speaker 2: But I just don't know if like a watered down 284 00:12:17,954 --> 00:12:20,714 Speaker 2: Netflix version and also like, obviously we don't have any 285 00:12:21,114 --> 00:12:24,634 Speaker 2: information about like the plot or the characters or anything 286 00:12:24,674 --> 00:12:26,554 Speaker 2: like that, apart from the fact that it's rebooting the 287 00:12:26,594 --> 00:12:30,114 Speaker 2: original and the two stars and that Jennifer Garner's involved. 288 00:12:30,834 --> 00:12:32,554 Speaker 2: But is it just going to be like a step 289 00:12:32,594 --> 00:12:34,394 Speaker 2: for step repeat. What's the point of that. 290 00:12:34,634 --> 00:12:36,754 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's one hundred percent necessary, but 291 00:12:36,834 --> 00:12:39,354 Speaker 3: I will be watching it. Oh no, I'm wat watching 292 00:12:39,354 --> 00:12:41,314 Speaker 3: it again and again. Probably not, and I'm probably gonna 293 00:12:41,314 --> 00:12:42,914 Speaker 3: watch it and go, wow, I really feel like watching 294 00:12:42,954 --> 00:12:43,833 Speaker 3: the original now. 295 00:12:43,954 --> 00:12:46,274 Speaker 2: That is my issue is are they just using the 296 00:12:46,394 --> 00:12:49,834 Speaker 2: ip for for a quick Friday night flip fix? Because 297 00:12:49,834 --> 00:12:52,754 Speaker 2: we know that Netflix drops new movies and TV shows, 298 00:12:52,794 --> 00:12:55,194 Speaker 2: so they get that algorithm hit on a Friday. And 299 00:12:55,274 --> 00:12:58,994 Speaker 2: I just don't want my personal movie legacy used for that. 300 00:12:59,234 --> 00:13:01,714 Speaker 2: And if they've got all these great people behind the scenes, 301 00:13:01,714 --> 00:13:04,274 Speaker 2: and there's great cast and Jennifer Ganna is involved, why 302 00:13:04,314 --> 00:13:06,874 Speaker 2: not make a new rom com? Yeah for sure? Why 303 00:13:07,274 --> 00:13:09,034 Speaker 2: use that same name and just slap it on a 304 00:13:09,114 --> 00:13:09,794 Speaker 2: lesser version? 305 00:13:10,234 --> 00:13:11,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting as well. 306 00:13:11,394 --> 00:13:13,634 Speaker 3: I guess the film came out in two thousand and four, 307 00:13:13,874 --> 00:13:16,154 Speaker 3: so we are two decades on. I know we had 308 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:17,954 Speaker 3: a little bit of a discussion in the office. Is 309 00:13:17,994 --> 00:13:19,394 Speaker 3: it too soon to bring it back? 310 00:13:19,874 --> 00:13:20,114 Speaker 1: For me? 311 00:13:20,234 --> 00:13:22,554 Speaker 3: That feels like a lifetime ago, because I was literally 312 00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:25,714 Speaker 3: eight years old when it came out. So I'm excited 313 00:13:25,754 --> 00:13:28,034 Speaker 3: to see it, and I can see how maybe it 314 00:13:28,034 --> 00:13:32,154 Speaker 3: will bring the film to a new generation who haven't 315 00:13:32,154 --> 00:13:33,034 Speaker 3: seen the original. 316 00:13:33,794 --> 00:13:35,554 Speaker 2: I just the thing is, maybe I'll just have to 317 00:13:35,554 --> 00:13:37,554 Speaker 2: reserve some of my judgment, even though I know I 318 00:13:37,634 --> 00:13:40,154 Speaker 2: just went really hard at Jennifer Gana there, reserve some 319 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:42,474 Speaker 2: of my judgment until I see what the synopsis is. 320 00:13:42,594 --> 00:13:44,994 Speaker 2: Because there's been a lot of classic rom coms that 321 00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:49,074 Speaker 2: get remade and reimagined, like She's All That becomes He's 322 00:13:49,154 --> 00:13:50,994 Speaker 2: All That, which I don't agree with that that was 323 00:13:51,034 --> 00:13:53,914 Speaker 2: a terrible movie, but at least they did something different 324 00:13:53,954 --> 00:13:55,914 Speaker 2: with it, like a little bit of a twist, whereas 325 00:13:55,994 --> 00:13:58,874 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much different this is going to be. 326 00:13:59,634 --> 00:14:01,314 Speaker 2: And also I just think that we need to go 327 00:14:01,394 --> 00:14:04,394 Speaker 2: back to making rom coms like making them like their 328 00:14:04,394 --> 00:14:06,994 Speaker 2: Oscar movies, which is how old school rom coms used 329 00:14:06,994 --> 00:14:09,354 Speaker 2: to be made. You got the two biggest stars in 330 00:14:09,394 --> 00:14:11,874 Speaker 2: the world, and no shade to Emily and Logan, but 331 00:14:11,914 --> 00:14:15,674 Speaker 2: they're not movie stars. They're both great. No no, no, they're not. 332 00:14:15,874 --> 00:14:18,954 Speaker 2: Like you need to get like top tier actors to 333 00:14:20,274 --> 00:14:22,314 Speaker 2: Oh my god, if that boy wants to get his 334 00:14:22,514 --> 00:14:24,714 Speaker 2: like vibe back, then he needs to do a rom com. 335 00:14:24,914 --> 00:14:27,754 Speaker 2: But you need, yes, you need like Oscar Worthy winning 336 00:14:28,154 --> 00:14:30,834 Speaker 2: movie stars, and you need to get like the top 337 00:14:30,874 --> 00:14:34,114 Speaker 2: top tier screenwriters, and you need the budget. And again 338 00:14:34,194 --> 00:14:36,594 Speaker 2: not that like Netflix doesn't have budget. They do, but 339 00:14:36,634 --> 00:14:39,194 Speaker 2: they are not going to shoot this like a big 340 00:14:39,554 --> 00:14:41,994 Speaker 2: studio release. Yes, we need to go back to shooting 341 00:14:42,114 --> 00:14:43,914 Speaker 2: rom coms like we shoot a Marvel, we go to. 342 00:14:43,954 --> 00:14:46,674 Speaker 3: The movies and watch an amazing rom com. Yes, we 343 00:14:46,754 --> 00:14:47,994 Speaker 3: just don't have that experience. 344 00:14:47,994 --> 00:14:50,394 Speaker 2: And I just think that people have forgotten how hard 345 00:14:50,434 --> 00:14:52,154 Speaker 2: they are to make and how much time and care 346 00:14:52,234 --> 00:14:54,314 Speaker 2: goes into them. I don't know if you watched last 347 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:57,554 Speaker 2: year Kate Hudson did the Variety Actors on Actors series 348 00:14:57,594 --> 00:15:00,634 Speaker 2: with Jeremy Allen White from The Bear, who also does 349 00:15:00,714 --> 00:15:02,394 Speaker 2: movies as well, and so they were chatting about that 350 00:15:02,794 --> 00:15:05,234 Speaker 2: and Kate Hudson says, would you ever do a rom com? 351 00:15:05,274 --> 00:15:06,794 Speaker 2: And he kind of gets really cute sy with it, 352 00:15:06,834 --> 00:15:08,594 Speaker 2: and she it was like, oh, yeah, it looks so 353 00:15:08,794 --> 00:15:11,514 Speaker 2: fun maybe one day and like she just gets so 354 00:15:11,594 --> 00:15:14,394 Speaker 2: serious and she says, it's a lot harder than it looks. 355 00:15:14,434 --> 00:15:15,994 Speaker 2: It's a lot harder than you think. A lot of 356 00:15:15,994 --> 00:15:17,474 Speaker 2: work needs to go into it. And I was like, 357 00:15:17,994 --> 00:15:20,674 Speaker 2: preach woman that the craft has been lost exactly, the 358 00:15:20,754 --> 00:15:24,674 Speaker 2: craft has been lost, and we it's just this weird 359 00:15:24,714 --> 00:15:26,834 Speaker 2: disconnect and Hollywood, I wish I coul get some executives 360 00:15:26,834 --> 00:15:29,754 Speaker 2: on the phone, because we know people are desperate for 361 00:15:29,874 --> 00:15:32,874 Speaker 2: rom coms. That's why they keep dressing up all of 362 00:15:32,914 --> 00:15:36,834 Speaker 2: these drama movies as rom coms, like The Materialists, Yes 363 00:15:36,914 --> 00:15:37,554 Speaker 2: to trick people. 364 00:15:37,594 --> 00:15:39,194 Speaker 1: God could not call that rom com? 365 00:15:39,274 --> 00:15:40,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was. It was marketed as a rock 366 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:43,314 Speaker 2: com and people went and saw it because they were like, oh. 367 00:15:43,074 --> 00:15:46,034 Speaker 3: I was misled when I watched Yeah, and that strange experience. 368 00:15:46,034 --> 00:15:47,674 Speaker 2: It was such a good movie. I really liked it. 369 00:15:47,714 --> 00:15:49,794 Speaker 2: But I also think that people who were upset with 370 00:15:49,874 --> 00:15:52,714 Speaker 2: it when expecting it to be something different. So we 371 00:15:52,754 --> 00:15:55,314 Speaker 2: know that people really want rom coms, but studios won't 372 00:15:55,354 --> 00:15:58,234 Speaker 2: make them, or they'll just make these straight to Netflix releases. 373 00:15:58,674 --> 00:16:01,554 Speaker 2: They won't do the big studio treatment. Even though just 374 00:16:01,554 --> 00:16:03,954 Speaker 2: think about anyone with you with Sydney Swinging Glen Powell. 375 00:16:04,034 --> 00:16:06,434 Speaker 2: That's not a great movie, but it made so much money. 376 00:16:06,274 --> 00:16:08,034 Speaker 1: Because people just go back and watch it again. 377 00:16:08,194 --> 00:16:10,954 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean I've watched it many times. It's 378 00:16:10,954 --> 00:16:12,874 Speaker 2: the perfect kind of like Friday night movie. I also 379 00:16:12,914 --> 00:16:14,434 Speaker 2: want to like a work trip on it. I wanted 380 00:16:14,434 --> 00:16:15,714 Speaker 2: to work for a few year ago on a cruise 381 00:16:15,754 --> 00:16:17,314 Speaker 2: and I was like the only movie you could watch 382 00:16:17,314 --> 00:16:19,194 Speaker 2: in the cruise room. So I would get back every 383 00:16:19,274 --> 00:16:20,954 Speaker 2: night from like my like little day trip and just 384 00:16:20,994 --> 00:16:21,714 Speaker 2: watch that movie. 385 00:16:21,754 --> 00:16:22,954 Speaker 1: Do you like it because it's in Sydney. 386 00:16:23,034 --> 00:16:24,434 Speaker 2: No, I don't like it at all. It's not a 387 00:16:24,434 --> 00:16:26,514 Speaker 2: good movie, but it's just watchable. It was like the 388 00:16:26,554 --> 00:16:30,074 Speaker 2: one you have some contry ideas it was the best option, 389 00:16:30,274 --> 00:16:32,434 Speaker 2: but like at least maybe you'll love Suddenly thirty the 390 00:16:32,514 --> 00:16:35,074 Speaker 2: Road Book, maybe at least with anyone, but you They 391 00:16:35,074 --> 00:16:37,714 Speaker 2: took a bit of a swing with like having a 392 00:16:37,794 --> 00:16:40,274 Speaker 2: high budget, and obviously you can make a good movie 393 00:16:40,314 --> 00:16:42,154 Speaker 2: without money, but what I mean is the attention to 394 00:16:42,194 --> 00:16:44,274 Speaker 2: detail of like knowing that it's going to cost as 395 00:16:44,354 --> 00:16:47,034 Speaker 2: much as a drama or a action movie to make, 396 00:16:47,074 --> 00:16:49,074 Speaker 2: and it had two movie stars, and at least they 397 00:16:49,154 --> 00:16:51,234 Speaker 2: tried to make it something. 398 00:16:51,354 --> 00:16:55,354 Speaker 3: I wonder if actors and actresses want to star in 399 00:16:55,474 --> 00:16:58,314 Speaker 3: rom comms because there is that conversation and like, are 400 00:16:58,354 --> 00:16:59,954 Speaker 3: they looking down on it. 401 00:16:59,834 --> 00:17:01,634 Speaker 1: Like maybe feel like that's below me. 402 00:17:02,034 --> 00:17:05,273 Speaker 2: I actually think potentially yes, because it sort of sits 403 00:17:05,314 --> 00:17:08,434 Speaker 2: outside that whole like safety of doing like a blockbuster 404 00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:10,994 Speaker 2: or a big ip or something like that. And it's 405 00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,874 Speaker 2: also not going to be on the awards circle or 406 00:17:12,954 --> 00:17:15,474 Speaker 2: correctly acclaim, so it sits in this weird place in 407 00:17:15,514 --> 00:17:18,314 Speaker 2: the middle. And I think a lot of actors, potentially yes, 408 00:17:18,554 --> 00:17:21,513 Speaker 2: don't see that as a smart career move. But as 409 00:17:21,514 --> 00:17:23,394 Speaker 2: we've seen with anyone but you that made so much 410 00:17:23,474 --> 00:17:26,273 Speaker 2: money at the box office, if it's marketed ride it 411 00:17:26,314 --> 00:17:26,754 Speaker 2: can be. 412 00:17:27,474 --> 00:17:30,033 Speaker 1: You just have to fake a whole relationship. 413 00:17:30,114 --> 00:17:33,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I'm on board with. I just think, find 414 00:17:33,794 --> 00:17:37,194 Speaker 2: two great movie stars with chemistry, two beautiful people, two 415 00:17:37,194 --> 00:17:39,034 Speaker 2: beautiful people, it's all we want. Whack him in a 416 00:17:39,114 --> 00:17:41,674 Speaker 2: rom com written by and a claim screenwriter, and let's 417 00:17:41,674 --> 00:17:44,513 Speaker 2: just see what we'll be there. But anyway, suddenly thirty 418 00:17:44,554 --> 00:17:46,674 Speaker 2: it's going into production. I don't want to be a naysayer, but. 419 00:17:46,634 --> 00:17:47,634 Speaker 3: I just it. 420 00:17:47,634 --> 00:17:52,034 Speaker 2: It just feels cheap, feels cheap and tawdry, and you 421 00:17:52,074 --> 00:17:54,834 Speaker 2: will watch it, but I mean, I'll at least watch 422 00:17:54,834 --> 00:17:57,394 Speaker 2: it once. I mean, should have made a TV series. 423 00:17:57,554 --> 00:17:59,034 Speaker 1: I would have liked a serious I would have watched. 424 00:17:59,914 --> 00:18:02,114 Speaker 1: Maybe if it was going to roll out as a series. 425 00:18:02,154 --> 00:18:04,234 Speaker 3: I think that could be interesting because there's room for 426 00:18:04,314 --> 00:18:07,714 Speaker 3: like a bit more creative license. But I think if 427 00:18:07,714 --> 00:18:09,634 Speaker 3: they're not just doing like Agender swoop for something. Yeah, 428 00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:10,714 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how they're. 429 00:18:10,514 --> 00:18:12,154 Speaker 2: Going to make it. It just needs to be something new. 430 00:18:12,194 --> 00:18:15,394 Speaker 2: But look, we'll reserve judgment for the suddenly thirty Netflix movie, 431 00:18:15,434 --> 00:18:19,234 Speaker 2: but my hopes they are not high. 432 00:18:19,234 --> 00:18:22,354 Speaker 3: Happy anniversary for all of those who celebrate. 433 00:18:22,554 --> 00:18:24,273 Speaker 2: Did you practice out of the mirror before you came here? 434 00:18:24,314 --> 00:18:26,394 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. I've been talking about it all week. 435 00:18:26,514 --> 00:18:28,634 Speaker 3: I've had that prepped, locked and loaded. I have a 436 00:18:28,634 --> 00:18:33,234 Speaker 3: group chat at the moment dedicated to the Hanamon Tanna. 437 00:18:32,074 --> 00:18:34,273 Speaker 2: And I knew this was coming, and I knew there 438 00:18:34,274 --> 00:18:36,194 Speaker 2: was a huge, huge fantom for it and all that 439 00:18:36,234 --> 00:18:37,554 Speaker 2: sort of thing. So I was on board, but I 440 00:18:37,594 --> 00:18:41,273 Speaker 2: didn't realize exactly. No, I am, I just I'm not. 441 00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:44,114 Speaker 2: I didn't grow up watching Hannamon Tanna, but I appreciate 442 00:18:44,114 --> 00:18:46,754 Speaker 2: the legacy, and I love Miley Cyrus, so I'm on board. 443 00:18:46,794 --> 00:18:48,354 Speaker 2: I didn't realize what a big deal it was until 444 00:18:48,354 --> 00:18:50,514 Speaker 2: the other day in the office. Disney sent this thing 445 00:18:50,554 --> 00:18:52,794 Speaker 2: out being exactly what time it was going to drop 446 00:18:52,794 --> 00:18:55,114 Speaker 2: an every day group chat, and I read it out. 447 00:18:55,154 --> 00:18:57,474 Speaker 2: Everyone the office sarted like screaming, and I said, oh 448 00:18:57,514 --> 00:18:59,434 Speaker 2: my god, this is more intense than I imagined. 449 00:18:59,634 --> 00:19:00,994 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole thing. 450 00:19:01,194 --> 00:19:04,513 Speaker 3: So the Hanimon Tanna twentieth Anniversary Special came out on 451 00:19:04,554 --> 00:19:07,634 Speaker 3: Disney last night. I had my clock set, so I 452 00:19:07,674 --> 00:19:11,354 Speaker 3: was ready to go, locked and loaded. Now, the fact 453 00:19:11,394 --> 00:19:14,834 Speaker 3: that one of my favorite childhood shows is returning for 454 00:19:14,914 --> 00:19:17,513 Speaker 3: its twentieth anniversary is sending me into a little bit 455 00:19:17,514 --> 00:19:19,234 Speaker 3: of a spiral because I can't believe. 456 00:19:18,994 --> 00:19:20,714 Speaker 1: That much time has passed. 457 00:19:21,074 --> 00:19:24,354 Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, there's a huge fandom behind this show, 458 00:19:24,434 --> 00:19:27,914 Speaker 3: so there was a lot of expectation, hopes, and dreams, 459 00:19:28,314 --> 00:19:30,154 Speaker 3: and we'll have a little bit of a dive into 460 00:19:30,194 --> 00:19:33,874 Speaker 3: what it delivered. I think, firstly, it's notable to look 461 00:19:33,914 --> 00:19:35,994 Speaker 3: at how it came to life. You know, you'd think 462 00:19:36,234 --> 00:19:38,513 Speaker 3: that Disney had enough time to prepare for this. It 463 00:19:38,554 --> 00:19:42,073 Speaker 3: was one of the biggest shows in the whole Disney franchise, 464 00:19:42,194 --> 00:19:44,234 Speaker 3: I would say, one of their most successful. 465 00:19:44,314 --> 00:19:44,834 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 466 00:19:44,914 --> 00:19:47,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think they'd be preparing for this, but it 467 00:19:47,154 --> 00:19:47,594 Speaker 1: turns out. 468 00:19:47,634 --> 00:19:50,793 Speaker 3: You know, Miley Cyrus has shared how she was campaigning 469 00:19:50,834 --> 00:19:53,154 Speaker 3: for this and she like willed it into existence. 470 00:19:53,394 --> 00:19:55,234 Speaker 1: She'd be on red carpets and interviews. 471 00:19:55,274 --> 00:19:56,914 Speaker 3: People would ask her, what's coming you She'd be like, 472 00:19:56,954 --> 00:19:59,914 Speaker 3: we're planning something, guys, something is coming for Hannah Montanna. 473 00:20:00,194 --> 00:20:03,313 Speaker 3: And eventually that kicked the Disney execs into gear and 474 00:20:03,354 --> 00:20:06,434 Speaker 3: that is how the special actually came to life. 475 00:20:06,794 --> 00:20:08,834 Speaker 2: Wow, so one of the Disney like because you know, 476 00:20:08,914 --> 00:20:11,474 Speaker 2: we know they love money so much, so so much. 477 00:20:11,714 --> 00:20:13,914 Speaker 2: It's one that they weren't like five years ahead of time, 478 00:20:14,034 --> 00:20:16,114 Speaker 2: like trying to get something off the ground for that 479 00:20:16,234 --> 00:20:18,514 Speaker 2: like big cash grab, trying to get her to come 480 00:20:18,554 --> 00:20:20,914 Speaker 2: back and do like a reboot series or a movie 481 00:20:20,994 --> 00:20:23,634 Speaker 2: or something that I know this isn't It wasn't that, 482 00:20:23,674 --> 00:20:25,434 Speaker 2: but I can imagine they would just be throwing money 483 00:20:25,434 --> 00:20:27,314 Speaker 2: at that legacy be damned. 484 00:20:27,554 --> 00:20:29,273 Speaker 3: For sure, And I think that's what a lot of 485 00:20:29,274 --> 00:20:30,914 Speaker 3: the fans would have wanted. I feel like a lot 486 00:20:30,914 --> 00:20:33,594 Speaker 3: of people were vying for, you know, a comeback episode 487 00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:36,874 Speaker 3: or a movie. What we got in this special featured 488 00:20:36,874 --> 00:20:39,034 Speaker 3: an interview with Alex Cooper, the host of the Call 489 00:20:39,074 --> 00:20:42,074 Speaker 3: Her Daddy podcast, and they chat through some of Hannah's 490 00:20:42,194 --> 00:20:45,114 Speaker 3: most memorable moments, They look at memorabilia, we have some 491 00:20:45,514 --> 00:20:49,914 Speaker 3: interesting guest star appearances as well. So it's not exactly 492 00:20:49,954 --> 00:20:52,234 Speaker 3: what I really expected from it, but I think it 493 00:20:52,274 --> 00:20:54,314 Speaker 3: is because I'm so personally invested, Like I just wanted 494 00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:54,793 Speaker 3: a little bit. 495 00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:56,793 Speaker 2: It was more so like the Friends ringing that we 496 00:20:56,834 --> 00:20:58,834 Speaker 2: had years ago, where everyone wanted them to come back 497 00:20:58,874 --> 00:21:01,313 Speaker 2: and play those characters. They were like, we can't do that. 498 00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:03,154 Speaker 2: I think that was the right choice, so instead they 499 00:21:03,194 --> 00:21:06,114 Speaker 2: just had more of a celebration, which I think potentially 500 00:21:06,274 --> 00:21:08,954 Speaker 2: for Hannah. I mean, I mean, I think it would 501 00:21:08,954 --> 00:21:10,554 Speaker 2: have been much easier to bring that back as more 502 00:21:10,594 --> 00:21:13,074 Speaker 2: of like a scripted show than Friends. But I do 503 00:21:13,114 --> 00:21:15,914 Speaker 2: think it was probably the best choice. Otherwise I would 504 00:21:15,914 --> 00:21:17,194 Speaker 2: have had to do this whole thing of like what 505 00:21:17,354 --> 00:21:19,353 Speaker 2: is she doing now? And also to have tension, you 506 00:21:19,354 --> 00:21:20,874 Speaker 2: have to kind of ruin there. This is the thing 507 00:21:20,914 --> 00:21:23,194 Speaker 2: about so many of my favorite shows have been rebooed 508 00:21:23,234 --> 00:21:24,994 Speaker 2: and have come back. The issue with that is that 509 00:21:25,034 --> 00:21:27,914 Speaker 2: you have to ruin the characters' lives and have tension 510 00:21:28,034 --> 00:21:30,954 Speaker 2: in order to make the show work. So like you 511 00:21:30,994 --> 00:21:32,754 Speaker 2: just know that Hannah Montana would have been like down 512 00:21:32,754 --> 00:21:34,194 Speaker 2: and out careers over That. 513 00:21:34,434 --> 00:21:36,513 Speaker 3: Made me feel better. Yeah, I've been at a different 514 00:21:36,554 --> 00:21:37,594 Speaker 3: mindset today. 515 00:21:38,034 --> 00:21:40,674 Speaker 2: What did you think about Alex Cooper's hosting part of it? 516 00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,234 Speaker 2: Because I thought it was interesting because obviously Miley Cyrus 517 00:21:43,314 --> 00:21:46,154 Speaker 2: was the first big celebrity guest on calla Daddy after 518 00:21:46,194 --> 00:21:48,793 Speaker 2: the whole like that podcast, like the two hosts split up, 519 00:21:48,834 --> 00:21:52,474 Speaker 2: and then Alex Cooper launched it solo and Miley was 520 00:21:52,554 --> 00:21:54,434 Speaker 2: the first big guest that kind of propelled her and 521 00:21:54,474 --> 00:21:56,954 Speaker 2: too where she is now as a celebrity interviewer. And 522 00:21:56,994 --> 00:22:00,274 Speaker 2: I was watching the video from inside the premiere where 523 00:22:00,394 --> 00:22:03,234 Speaker 2: Miley was introducing Alex and she was like, this girl 524 00:22:03,954 --> 00:22:05,794 Speaker 2: came to my house and interviewed me. Then all of 525 00:22:05,794 --> 00:22:08,394 Speaker 2: a sudden, she got some money, moves in next door, 526 00:22:08,434 --> 00:22:10,554 Speaker 2: pretend she doesn't know I live there, even though she 527 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:12,834 Speaker 2: did know, And now we're doing this together, so the 528 00:22:12,954 --> 00:22:14,674 Speaker 2: obviously we're friends now, which is interesting. 529 00:22:14,714 --> 00:22:15,954 Speaker 3: I feel like Alex is a little bit of a 530 00:22:15,954 --> 00:22:18,033 Speaker 3: super fan, so I love you had the opportunity to 531 00:22:17,994 --> 00:22:18,874 Speaker 3: do well exactly. 532 00:22:18,994 --> 00:22:20,634 Speaker 2: I know she gets she cops a lot of flak 533 00:22:20,674 --> 00:22:23,034 Speaker 2: for being a bad interviewer, and like, my thoughts on 534 00:22:23,074 --> 00:22:24,914 Speaker 2: that for another day. If she's not great, but she 535 00:22:25,034 --> 00:22:27,194 Speaker 2: is a super fan, so she was the right person 536 00:22:27,194 --> 00:22:27,513 Speaker 2: to do it. 537 00:22:27,594 --> 00:22:30,194 Speaker 3: I think she's the right age she's a fan. I 538 00:22:30,234 --> 00:22:33,834 Speaker 3: think the questions were very she didn't dig that deep. 539 00:22:33,914 --> 00:22:34,474 Speaker 1: I didn't think we. 540 00:22:34,514 --> 00:22:37,594 Speaker 3: Got anything out of the interview that we maybe didn't 541 00:22:37,634 --> 00:22:40,914 Speaker 3: already have. There wasn't too much beyond that. The interviews 542 00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:43,834 Speaker 3: kind of segue into these different moments within the show. 543 00:22:43,954 --> 00:22:46,514 Speaker 3: We have a moment with her mom, like looking through 544 00:22:46,554 --> 00:22:49,353 Speaker 3: the set and the closet, looking at memorabilia, and then 545 00:22:49,394 --> 00:22:51,634 Speaker 3: we have these guest star appearances. 546 00:22:51,714 --> 00:22:52,914 Speaker 1: So I have some thoughts. 547 00:22:52,994 --> 00:22:56,914 Speaker 3: Okay, tell me, why is Chapelone here? I just can't 548 00:22:56,914 --> 00:22:59,914 Speaker 3: figure out why Chapelon is here. Again, I think she's 549 00:22:59,954 --> 00:23:02,954 Speaker 3: giving super fan It is giving a little like we're 550 00:23:02,954 --> 00:23:05,154 Speaker 3: making a wish, We're making wish come true for child. 551 00:23:05,394 --> 00:23:07,754 Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't hit any emotion because, as I said, 552 00:23:07,754 --> 00:23:09,714 Speaker 2: I'm so aware of the nostalgia and stuff, and I 553 00:23:09,754 --> 00:23:12,114 Speaker 2: watched it, I was feeling emotion just I guess like 554 00:23:12,114 --> 00:23:14,033 Speaker 2: the passage of time what the show meant for people. 555 00:23:14,074 --> 00:23:17,034 Speaker 2: I thought, like the bits the passage of time is 556 00:23:17,194 --> 00:23:19,394 Speaker 2: that'll get you every time if you think about it 557 00:23:19,394 --> 00:23:22,154 Speaker 2: too hard. I thought her and her mum, Tish, who 558 00:23:22,314 --> 00:23:23,874 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of because that woman has lived a 559 00:23:23,874 --> 00:23:26,313 Speaker 2: wildlife and I love the headlines that she makes. I 560 00:23:26,354 --> 00:23:28,354 Speaker 2: loved them going through the closet and pulling out the 561 00:23:28,354 --> 00:23:31,714 Speaker 2: clothes and Miley's pulling out the outfit she hated wearing 562 00:23:31,714 --> 00:23:33,874 Speaker 2: as Hannah Montana, and she was like, you can tell 563 00:23:33,914 --> 00:23:36,553 Speaker 2: when Disney shopped and she holds up those sparkly pants 564 00:23:36,554 --> 00:23:39,234 Speaker 2: with the leopard with the zebra top, and then she's 565 00:23:39,234 --> 00:23:41,234 Speaker 2: like and then when Tiss shopped, because Tish was like 566 00:23:41,274 --> 00:23:43,474 Speaker 2: buying clothes for the fly. 567 00:23:43,634 --> 00:23:43,874 Speaker 3: Yeah. 568 00:23:43,914 --> 00:23:45,634 Speaker 2: And also when they try to get the closet to 569 00:23:45,714 --> 00:23:47,553 Speaker 2: spin and it doesn't spin and Tis She's like, it's 570 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,434 Speaker 2: not going to work, and Miley's like, I mean it's 571 00:23:49,474 --> 00:23:51,394 Speaker 2: twenty years old, give it a second. And I was like, 572 00:23:51,394 --> 00:23:53,354 Speaker 2: oh my god, that's the closet from the show. 573 00:23:53,594 --> 00:23:53,874 Speaker 3: Yeah. 574 00:23:54,114 --> 00:23:54,914 Speaker 2: Oh that was kid. 575 00:23:55,114 --> 00:23:57,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like for like the set. 576 00:23:57,354 --> 00:24:00,234 Speaker 3: I think they got it in great detail, so that 577 00:24:00,354 --> 00:24:01,234 Speaker 3: is really satisfying. 578 00:24:01,554 --> 00:24:02,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, the cheer. 579 00:24:02,314 --> 00:24:04,474 Speaker 2: Stuff didn't hit as much as I mean, I guess 580 00:24:04,514 --> 00:24:06,754 Speaker 2: that she wasn't. She didn't know Miley then, like someone 581 00:24:06,754 --> 00:24:08,554 Speaker 2: like a stile in a Gomez or something. I think 582 00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:10,554 Speaker 2: she was meant to be there as like Miley at 583 00:24:10,554 --> 00:24:13,594 Speaker 2: the time, or like Hannah Montana was the ultimate pop 584 00:24:13,634 --> 00:24:17,274 Speaker 2: princess and now Chapel Roone is like the ultimate pop princess. 585 00:24:17,634 --> 00:24:19,434 Speaker 3: I feel like it's an interesting choice, and I wonder 586 00:24:19,514 --> 00:24:22,154 Speaker 3: if there were other options, like in the lineup, because 587 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,313 Speaker 3: for me, it would have made more sense to have 588 00:24:24,394 --> 00:24:26,634 Speaker 3: someone who came through that Disney machine, like you've. 589 00:24:26,474 --> 00:24:27,714 Speaker 1: Got Sabrina Carpenter. 590 00:24:28,474 --> 00:24:32,354 Speaker 3: I'm sure they all have very busy schedules, but just 591 00:24:32,514 --> 00:24:34,274 Speaker 3: an hour of your time, Yeah. 592 00:24:34,114 --> 00:24:36,834 Speaker 2: I do know. I don't know if maybe the idea 593 00:24:36,834 --> 00:24:38,914 Speaker 2: in the meeting was that Miley loves her and looks 594 00:24:38,954 --> 00:24:41,074 Speaker 2: up to her, and like maybe Chapel was like, oh yeah, 595 00:24:41,074 --> 00:24:43,434 Speaker 2: I was. I was raised on Hannah Montana, and then 596 00:24:43,474 --> 00:24:45,834 Speaker 2: that didn't come across in the segment. I when I 597 00:24:45,874 --> 00:24:49,474 Speaker 2: really watch that shit exactly, that's it's Yeah, it's wild 598 00:24:49,554 --> 00:24:51,513 Speaker 2: to think of, But I also thought, would we be 599 00:24:51,554 --> 00:24:55,514 Speaker 2: looking at that segment differently if the huge Chapel Rone 600 00:24:55,554 --> 00:24:58,354 Speaker 2: made a child cry she hates children and her fans 601 00:24:58,474 --> 00:25:01,114 Speaker 2: rhetoric wasn't out this week, the timing, which they couldn't 602 00:25:01,114 --> 00:25:02,674 Speaker 2: have predicted it. It's just bad timing. 603 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:05,234 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I think it is interesting and that has 604 00:25:05,314 --> 00:25:08,954 Speaker 3: left a lot of people like uneasy, like seeing her 605 00:25:09,114 --> 00:25:11,834 Speaker 3: on screens. I honestly zoned out a little bit in 606 00:25:11,914 --> 00:25:14,114 Speaker 3: that park. I just I just wanted to bring it 607 00:25:14,114 --> 00:25:16,114 Speaker 3: back to Miley. I really think she carried it and 608 00:25:16,114 --> 00:25:18,834 Speaker 3: it was interesting to see also Biller Ray Cyrus. 609 00:25:18,754 --> 00:25:21,874 Speaker 2: Oh, do you think of that because they've had the 610 00:25:21,914 --> 00:25:26,674 Speaker 2: most tumultuous that whole family has tumultuous relationship on a journey, 611 00:25:26,754 --> 00:25:28,954 Speaker 2: and they've been on the outs right, Yeah, like they 612 00:25:28,954 --> 00:25:32,513 Speaker 2: have gone through periods of time of not speaking. She 613 00:25:32,634 --> 00:25:35,033 Speaker 2: didn't thank him when she won her Grammy, and it 614 00:25:35,074 --> 00:25:37,553 Speaker 2: was very pointed because she was like, she thanked so 615 00:25:37,594 --> 00:25:39,273 Speaker 2: many people and then she said, and that's all I 616 00:25:39,314 --> 00:25:41,634 Speaker 2: thanked everyone. It was so pointed that she didn't thank him. 617 00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,194 Speaker 2: Do you think that they're in an okay place now? 618 00:25:44,274 --> 00:25:45,754 Speaker 2: Or do you think they held it together for the 619 00:25:45,834 --> 00:25:47,994 Speaker 2: cameras because they knew what it would mean for the 620 00:25:48,034 --> 00:25:50,033 Speaker 2: audience to see them back on that set together. 621 00:25:50,554 --> 00:25:52,793 Speaker 1: There has been that strange it between them both. 622 00:25:53,154 --> 00:25:55,874 Speaker 3: Last year, Miley did come out publicly to say, you know, 623 00:25:56,234 --> 00:25:58,274 Speaker 3: a bit of water under the bridge, they've. 624 00:25:58,274 --> 00:25:59,474 Speaker 1: Made peace with each other. 625 00:25:59,994 --> 00:26:02,514 Speaker 3: She had her song come out where there's some lyrics 626 00:26:02,554 --> 00:26:05,714 Speaker 3: dedicated to him about you know how she'll always love him. 627 00:26:06,154 --> 00:26:08,674 Speaker 3: So they've had that moment already in the public eye. 628 00:26:08,834 --> 00:26:11,954 Speaker 3: But it would be a convenient time for it to 629 00:26:11,994 --> 00:26:15,274 Speaker 3: happen before this kind of schedule was in the work. Yeah, 630 00:26:15,314 --> 00:26:18,634 Speaker 3: because now looking at the timeline, this is probably into 631 00:26:18,794 --> 00:26:21,754 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, around when this would have been Wheels 632 00:26:21,794 --> 00:26:24,793 Speaker 3: in motions. So it does feel like a little bit 633 00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:28,114 Speaker 3: of a front and I think watching the special, it 634 00:26:28,154 --> 00:26:31,154 Speaker 3: does feel a little bit more like a Cyrus reunion. 635 00:26:31,754 --> 00:26:36,394 Speaker 2: Yeah's so part of that show, her family. But I 636 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:38,234 Speaker 2: guess it has been difficult because we had that whole 637 00:26:38,274 --> 00:26:40,674 Speaker 2: thing where the Cyrus kids split down the middle, and 638 00:26:40,714 --> 00:26:43,154 Speaker 2: like very publicly a few years ago, a bunch of 639 00:26:43,154 --> 00:26:45,434 Speaker 2: them supported Tit and a bunch of them supported Billy. 640 00:26:45,874 --> 00:26:48,634 Speaker 2: And then I think also with Billy Ray Cyrus getting 641 00:26:48,674 --> 00:26:52,234 Speaker 2: divorced from his much much younger ex wife, I think 642 00:26:52,274 --> 00:26:54,394 Speaker 2: they met and then they met on the set. Yeah, 643 00:26:54,394 --> 00:26:56,314 Speaker 2: when she was a child, and then she's made a 644 00:26:56,354 --> 00:26:59,194 Speaker 2: lot of allegations around like domestic abuse and stuff and everything. 645 00:26:59,234 --> 00:27:03,114 Speaker 2: So I feel like Miley Cyrus couldn't, you know, publicly 646 00:27:03,234 --> 00:27:06,154 Speaker 2: support her father without addressing that more so, it's been 647 00:27:06,194 --> 00:27:06,994 Speaker 2: a messy situation. 648 00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:09,874 Speaker 3: I think it was nice to see them on set together, 649 00:27:09,954 --> 00:27:11,674 Speaker 3: like he was such a big part of the show, 650 00:27:12,114 --> 00:27:13,434 Speaker 3: and getting a little bit. 651 00:27:13,394 --> 00:27:15,914 Speaker 1: Of an insight into experience being cast on the show. 652 00:27:15,994 --> 00:27:19,474 Speaker 3: You know, they moved over from La just a young girl, 653 00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:22,793 Speaker 3: and I think there's a really cute, powerful story in 654 00:27:22,834 --> 00:27:24,754 Speaker 3: that and in how much the family backed it and 655 00:27:24,794 --> 00:27:27,954 Speaker 3: then being able to take on like that experience together 656 00:27:28,154 --> 00:27:30,874 Speaker 3: with him on the show, and then Tish being so 657 00:27:31,034 --> 00:27:33,034 Speaker 3: involved and always on set, And I think that's part 658 00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:35,954 Speaker 3: of the reason why Miley has stayed so grounded, because 659 00:27:35,994 --> 00:27:39,234 Speaker 3: her parents were so involved and across everything that happened 660 00:27:39,274 --> 00:27:41,714 Speaker 3: on set. You know, that's not the same experience for 661 00:27:41,754 --> 00:27:45,074 Speaker 3: a lot of other people, you know, the Colodian Kids, Yeah, 662 00:27:45,314 --> 00:27:48,154 Speaker 3: documentary that came out, it's been a very different story. 663 00:27:48,194 --> 00:27:50,954 Speaker 3: So I think that's like a really important part of 664 00:27:50,994 --> 00:27:52,554 Speaker 3: like the person that. 665 00:27:52,954 --> 00:27:53,754 Speaker 1: She is today. 666 00:27:53,914 --> 00:27:56,674 Speaker 3: And also something else that I thought was interesting was 667 00:27:56,994 --> 00:28:00,314 Speaker 3: there was a conversation with the former Disney Channel president 668 00:28:00,474 --> 00:28:03,994 Speaker 3: Gary Marsh and he speaks about how Disney had a 669 00:28:04,114 --> 00:28:07,914 Speaker 3: very clear vision to turn this fictional pop stuff into 670 00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:10,914 Speaker 3: a real life global sensation, which is exactly what of 671 00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:13,954 Speaker 3: course it happened with Miley, So to know that that 672 00:28:14,154 --> 00:28:17,273 Speaker 3: was already in play from when they cast her like 673 00:28:17,274 --> 00:28:20,754 Speaker 3: that was always the vision for her. Such an interesting 674 00:28:20,834 --> 00:28:22,714 Speaker 3: look at you know how that machine works? 675 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:26,194 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Were there any little reveals that you was 676 00:28:26,274 --> 00:28:30,234 Speaker 2: like a hardcore Miley Hannah Disney fan. Was the Dylan 677 00:28:30,314 --> 00:28:32,474 Speaker 2: Sprowse thing the biggest thing? And was that a big reveal? 678 00:28:32,554 --> 00:28:34,114 Speaker 2: I kind of thought that was like a known thing. 679 00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:37,034 Speaker 3: I think he's actually come out on an interview before 680 00:28:37,034 --> 00:28:37,674 Speaker 3: saying they were dating. 681 00:28:37,714 --> 00:28:39,634 Speaker 1: I think I was shocked because they show a picture 682 00:28:39,674 --> 00:28:40,474 Speaker 1: on screen. 683 00:28:40,234 --> 00:28:41,634 Speaker 2: That pitch It sent me over the edge. 684 00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:44,074 Speaker 1: We're the same age, I doodled it. 685 00:28:44,274 --> 00:28:46,714 Speaker 2: She's so much older than h eight, she. 686 00:28:46,634 --> 00:28:48,994 Speaker 3: Looks fifteen, and I thought, let's take that picture up 687 00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:50,954 Speaker 3: the screen. I think they were just very at first. 688 00:28:50,954 --> 00:28:53,314 Speaker 2: It was like a bit like oh secret, like cute 689 00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:55,994 Speaker 2: little first love on the Disney Channel. But then they 690 00:28:55,994 --> 00:28:57,874 Speaker 2: showed the photo and she looked like his big sister 691 00:28:58,394 --> 00:29:00,354 Speaker 2: her like the big sister having to look after his 692 00:29:00,434 --> 00:29:02,754 Speaker 2: little brother. And then she was like yeah, and Cole 693 00:29:02,794 --> 00:29:05,034 Speaker 2: would come to so I get two two price one 694 00:29:05,154 --> 00:29:07,634 Speaker 2: when we go to the sushi place, and I was like, Jesus, 695 00:29:07,634 --> 00:29:09,954 Speaker 2: I love this. I love her. Yeah, I love her. 696 00:29:10,034 --> 00:29:10,754 Speaker 1: She's so great. 697 00:29:10,994 --> 00:29:12,594 Speaker 3: The other thing that I loved And I think this 698 00:29:12,714 --> 00:29:16,234 Speaker 3: is such obviously relatable as a teenage experience to want 699 00:29:16,234 --> 00:29:18,274 Speaker 3: to be around your boyfriend, but as. 700 00:29:18,114 --> 00:29:20,954 Speaker 1: A Disney star, what does that look like? When she 701 00:29:21,074 --> 00:29:21,554 Speaker 1: was going on. 702 00:29:21,554 --> 00:29:24,434 Speaker 3: The Best of Both Worlds World tour, she said she 703 00:29:24,434 --> 00:29:26,754 Speaker 3: would only agree if her boyfriend could come along. 704 00:29:27,314 --> 00:29:28,554 Speaker 1: Her boyfriend is Nick Jonas. 705 00:29:28,594 --> 00:29:30,914 Speaker 2: They say, sure, cute, he can. 706 00:29:30,794 --> 00:29:34,034 Speaker 1: Come if the Jonah's brothers open, And that's how it played. 707 00:29:34,394 --> 00:29:37,074 Speaker 2: The Jonahs's brothers were thrilled about that. Yeah, that's how 708 00:29:37,074 --> 00:29:38,874 Speaker 2: they got famed. That's how I got famous, right, Yeah, 709 00:29:38,874 --> 00:29:41,314 Speaker 2: I think so, Oh my god, those Jonah's brothers are 710 00:29:41,354 --> 00:29:42,394 Speaker 2: responsible for so much. 711 00:29:42,434 --> 00:29:45,194 Speaker 1: Law I know, they get up to a lot, They're busy. 712 00:29:45,114 --> 00:29:45,714 Speaker 2: A lot happening. 713 00:29:45,754 --> 00:29:45,954 Speaker 3: Yeah. 714 00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:48,754 Speaker 2: What did you think of Selena Gomez coming onto the set? 715 00:29:49,314 --> 00:29:51,274 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I didn't realize that she had, like she 716 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:52,794 Speaker 2: guest starred on her Montana. Right. 717 00:29:53,034 --> 00:29:56,114 Speaker 3: Yes, so Selena Gomez does start in a couple of 718 00:29:56,234 --> 00:29:58,674 Speaker 3: episodes in the early days of Or. 719 00:29:58,754 --> 00:30:00,794 Speaker 2: She did that. Like Disney was working her like a 720 00:30:00,914 --> 00:30:02,834 Speaker 2: dog at that stage. They was putting her in every 721 00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:03,874 Speaker 2: She was in everything. 722 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:06,514 Speaker 1: So they were rivals. She was a pop star competitor, 723 00:30:07,234 --> 00:30:07,994 Speaker 1: so there was. 724 00:30:08,074 --> 00:30:10,594 Speaker 2: A sorry, make that movie now with them as adult 725 00:30:10,834 --> 00:30:12,634 Speaker 2: I would watch the shit out of that. I would 726 00:30:12,674 --> 00:30:13,354 Speaker 2: watch that. 727 00:30:13,354 --> 00:30:15,794 Speaker 3: Disney if you listen, we need to will it into 728 00:30:15,834 --> 00:30:18,914 Speaker 3: the yes station and we'll take Morley's word on that because. 729 00:30:18,674 --> 00:30:20,154 Speaker 2: I show that little clip and I say this, like, 730 00:30:20,194 --> 00:30:21,874 Speaker 2: this is hard to pour. They had such good enemy 731 00:30:21,914 --> 00:30:24,274 Speaker 2: chemistry on screen, like I so believed it. 732 00:30:24,274 --> 00:30:25,674 Speaker 1: It probably was kind of real. 733 00:30:25,794 --> 00:30:29,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt bad when Selena's like she was like, 734 00:30:29,314 --> 00:30:31,074 Speaker 2: I'm fifteen. I just wanted to be pretty, which I 735 00:30:31,074 --> 00:30:33,194 Speaker 2: totally understand. And they put her in a weird costume 736 00:30:33,194 --> 00:30:34,954 Speaker 2: and looked her outside and she was like and she 737 00:30:34,994 --> 00:30:36,194 Speaker 2: takes everything so personally. 738 00:30:36,514 --> 00:30:38,954 Speaker 3: So interesting though, because when you're just watching, like as 739 00:30:38,954 --> 00:30:40,394 Speaker 3: if you were as a kid, you would never think 740 00:30:40,394 --> 00:30:41,674 Speaker 3: Selena Gomez looks so ugly. 741 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:43,834 Speaker 1: Here, You're just like, how fuck do you? I love you? 742 00:30:43,874 --> 00:30:46,714 Speaker 3: And I think you're amazing, But yeah, I would love 743 00:30:46,754 --> 00:30:48,474 Speaker 3: to see them come back in something. I thought it's 744 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:51,794 Speaker 3: interesting to see, Like whenever I see Selena Gomez these 745 00:30:51,834 --> 00:30:54,314 Speaker 3: days in interviews, I just I wonder what's happened. 746 00:30:54,794 --> 00:30:57,234 Speaker 1: She seems so different from it. It's just such a. 747 00:30:57,274 --> 00:30:59,514 Speaker 2: I've always thought this was Selena. And the thing is 748 00:30:59,554 --> 00:31:02,074 Speaker 2: she has so much. Everyone she works with seems to 749 00:31:02,354 --> 00:31:06,034 Speaker 2: love her, Her fans love her no matter what. She's 750 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,314 Speaker 2: so happily married, she's on a hit TV show, she's 751 00:31:09,354 --> 00:31:13,114 Speaker 2: being nominated for awards, she works with Meryl Streep, and 752 00:31:13,194 --> 00:31:15,874 Speaker 2: she's just such a sadness around her. And that's it 753 00:31:15,914 --> 00:31:19,274 Speaker 2: came through on the Hannah Montana special when she and 754 00:31:19,354 --> 00:31:22,674 Speaker 2: Miley Sarah's sitting on the couch in flat conversation. Yeah, 755 00:31:22,714 --> 00:31:24,874 Speaker 2: I mean I did find it kind of emotional because 756 00:31:24,874 --> 00:31:26,874 Speaker 2: they there's so much history between them. I thought the 757 00:31:26,874 --> 00:31:28,994 Speaker 2: sweetest moment was when they walked away from the camera 758 00:31:29,034 --> 00:31:31,234 Speaker 2: and they walked off set and the camera followed them 759 00:31:31,234 --> 00:31:34,314 Speaker 2: and they had that big hug like away from the set, 760 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:36,914 Speaker 2: which I found really beautiful and like, just like all 761 00:31:36,954 --> 00:31:38,554 Speaker 2: these girls have been through so much, I know. 762 00:31:39,554 --> 00:31:42,074 Speaker 1: Even if they weren't on the same path the whole time. 763 00:31:42,114 --> 00:31:45,514 Speaker 3: I feel they had such separate careers. Yeah, there's so 764 00:31:45,634 --> 00:31:47,154 Speaker 3: much that you can relate because. 765 00:31:46,914 --> 00:31:48,194 Speaker 2: It's been through so much together. 766 00:31:48,234 --> 00:31:50,554 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a moment that Miley says she gets quite 767 00:31:50,594 --> 00:31:53,194 Speaker 3: lonely because there's no one she can really share her 768 00:31:53,234 --> 00:31:55,954 Speaker 3: experience with because there aren't many people that have ever 769 00:31:56,154 --> 00:31:57,674 Speaker 3: been on the same path as her. So I can 770 00:31:57,714 --> 00:32:00,474 Speaker 3: imagine they would have a really special connection, which is 771 00:32:00,474 --> 00:32:02,074 Speaker 3: sweet to see on the screen. 772 00:32:02,514 --> 00:32:04,914 Speaker 2: Love that. Yeah, so didn't live up to your expectations 773 00:32:04,954 --> 00:32:05,714 Speaker 2: as a super fan. 774 00:32:05,954 --> 00:32:07,314 Speaker 3: When I first watched it, I was like, this is 775 00:32:07,394 --> 00:32:10,794 Speaker 3: everything I needed. I love Miley Cyrus. She's an icon. 776 00:32:11,034 --> 00:32:13,474 Speaker 3: Everything she does is amazing. But now that I've really 777 00:32:13,554 --> 00:32:16,074 Speaker 3: sat with it, I've sat with it, I've thought about it. 778 00:32:16,474 --> 00:32:18,434 Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit anticlimactic for me. 779 00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:19,874 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair enough. 780 00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:22,754 Speaker 3: Yeah, which I think that could just be what happens 781 00:32:22,754 --> 00:32:24,754 Speaker 3: when your favorite shows are revived. 782 00:32:24,794 --> 00:32:26,514 Speaker 2: And I feel like you needed to be at the 783 00:32:26,554 --> 00:32:29,554 Speaker 2: taping of the live bill. Everything I've read, I was 784 00:32:29,594 --> 00:32:31,994 Speaker 2: reading journalists account from like people mag and stuff who 785 00:32:31,994 --> 00:32:35,114 Speaker 2: were in there. Yes, and she was like in full 786 00:32:35,194 --> 00:32:38,434 Speaker 2: like old school Miley Hannah mode with the crowd and stuff. 787 00:32:38,474 --> 00:32:40,194 Speaker 1: Apparently she did three takes of each song. 788 00:32:40,314 --> 00:32:42,794 Speaker 2: Three takes of each is what I need, yeah, exactly, 789 00:32:43,594 --> 00:32:45,354 Speaker 2: and she was like giving a little teasers about her 790 00:32:45,594 --> 00:32:47,314 Speaker 2: all the stuff that got cut from the actual thing, 791 00:32:47,514 --> 00:32:50,674 Speaker 2: teases about her outfit. Apparently, like they told everyone like 792 00:32:50,714 --> 00:32:53,234 Speaker 2: to do the iconic Hannah chant at the end, and 793 00:32:53,274 --> 00:32:55,674 Speaker 2: the crowd changed it to Miley to show like we're 794 00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:57,594 Speaker 2: here for you, and she got really emotional and all 795 00:32:57,634 --> 00:32:59,434 Speaker 2: these things. But there was so much more of that 796 00:32:59,434 --> 00:33:00,314 Speaker 2: we didn't see. 797 00:33:00,514 --> 00:33:03,514 Speaker 1: I would sell a lung to have attended that concert. 798 00:33:03,554 --> 00:33:06,394 Speaker 2: It's interesting when they show the audience everyone's crying and sobbing, 799 00:33:06,394 --> 00:33:08,634 Speaker 2: which is exactly how I would be. And apparently they 800 00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:10,874 Speaker 2: had to wait outside for hours and hours in the sun. 801 00:33:11,194 --> 00:33:13,114 Speaker 2: They finally got moved inside, like they had. The fans 802 00:33:13,154 --> 00:33:15,194 Speaker 2: who went to the live taping had the worst day, 803 00:33:15,514 --> 00:33:17,354 Speaker 2: but they look like the happiest people in the world 804 00:33:17,434 --> 00:33:22,834 Speaker 2: because apparently what happened at the tap exactly. They're delirious. No, 805 00:33:23,034 --> 00:33:26,754 Speaker 2: because apparently the taping was like such a special experience. 806 00:33:26,794 --> 00:33:28,794 Speaker 2: I think it kind of came across but maybe not enough. 807 00:33:28,834 --> 00:33:30,514 Speaker 3: And I heard it was in the studio so on 808 00:33:30,514 --> 00:33:33,434 Speaker 3: one side, you got the stage and then the set, 809 00:33:33,554 --> 00:33:37,834 Speaker 3: which is the recreation of the Hannah Montana's house, was 810 00:33:37,834 --> 00:33:39,674 Speaker 3: on the other side. So I think that would be 811 00:33:39,714 --> 00:33:42,434 Speaker 3: like amazing as well. I think a tour would have 812 00:33:42,474 --> 00:33:44,834 Speaker 3: been so great. I would have loved a special that 813 00:33:44,954 --> 00:33:47,834 Speaker 3: was just following like a tour rather than the sit 814 00:33:47,874 --> 00:33:48,834 Speaker 3: down with Alex Cooper. 815 00:33:48,874 --> 00:33:52,034 Speaker 1: I think that would have been really special. But hey, 816 00:33:52,074 --> 00:33:53,914 Speaker 1: maybe we'll be here for the fiftieth anniversary. 817 00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:57,394 Speaker 2: Maybe we hope, so I would love to see that. 818 00:33:57,434 --> 00:33:59,034 Speaker 2: You know, they're just planning it. So we have some 819 00:33:59,114 --> 00:34:01,714 Speaker 2: notes on the Hannah Montana reunion, but overall. 820 00:34:01,674 --> 00:34:05,954 Speaker 1: Overall, thanks so much for listening to The Spill today. 821 00:34:06,034 --> 00:34:08,634 Speaker 3: If you want more, over to our YouTube channel for 822 00:34:08,794 --> 00:34:12,114 Speaker 3: exclusive behind the scenes content. Link is in the show notes, 823 00:34:12,594 --> 00:34:14,913 Speaker 3: and make sure you catch Maths tonight because I'll be 824 00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:17,594 Speaker 3: back with Laura tomorrow recapping all of the drama and 825 00:34:17,634 --> 00:34:20,154 Speaker 3: diving into the juiciest moments that happened on the show 826 00:34:20,274 --> 00:34:23,314 Speaker 3: over this week. The Spill is produced by Minish Iswarn, 827 00:34:23,394 --> 00:34:26,393 Speaker 3: with audio production by Scott Stronik and video production by 828 00:34:26,434 --> 00:34:27,234 Speaker 3: Michael Keane. 829 00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:40,034 Speaker 2: Bye Bye l Mamma. Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of 830 00:34:40,074 --> 00:34:42,954 Speaker 2: the land we have recorded this podcast on the Gatigor 831 00:34:43,034 --> 00:34:46,154 Speaker 2: people of the orination. We pay our respects to their 832 00:34:46,154 --> 00:34:49,114 Speaker 2: elders past and present, and extend that respect to all 833 00:34:49,154 --> 00:34:51,354 Speaker 2: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.