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Speaker 1: So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 1: From Mama Maya. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Cascene lu.

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Speaker 2: Ku and I'm Laura Brudnick, and today.

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Speaker 1: We are going through a little bit of and just

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Speaker 1: like that, we are midway through the season. But we

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Speaker 1: have heard you guys, and you wanted a bit of

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Speaker 1: a brutally honest review, but we can't do that yet,

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Speaker 1: so we're just going to do a mid season check in.

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Speaker 2: But first, but first, Sarah Jessica Parker Carrie Bradshaw herself

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Speaker 2: has just been on Watch What Happens Live with Andy

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Speaker 2: Cohen this week and there's a few kind of interesting takeaways.

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Speaker 2: So it was actually really cute because Andy Cohen and

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Speaker 1: I would love to be friends with Andy Cohen.

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Speaker 2: I would honestly not get into such interviewed him once

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Speaker 2: I've come to love him more since I interviewed him. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So Sarah Jesica Parker, she's on the show. It's really cute.

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Speaker 2: They were talking about their love of sex and City

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Speaker 2: also Sarah Jedica Parker is quite careful with a lot

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Speaker 2: if you haven't watched What Happens Live, it can get

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Speaker 2: very messy, Like he asked some big questions. He you know,

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Speaker 2: was nice, but there was one question where he said her,

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Speaker 2: did you ever date Nicholas Cage. Now, this has been

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Speaker 2: a rumor bubbling around for over thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so it started in ninety six when they did

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Speaker 1: I love this so much. Nicholas Cage is so weird

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Speaker 2: No, and especially I mean, I don't know a huge

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Speaker 2: Details we didn't need. I'm so glad we have them.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's just Nicholas Cage. She's a

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Speaker 2: Party, Yes, which is the episode that came out last week,

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Speaker 2: So don't worry if you haven't seen the episode from

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Speaker 1: to really like she should really pat herself on the

430
00:18:48,744 --> 00:18:51,664
Speaker 1: back because after all of that, you know, backlash in

431
00:18:51,704 --> 00:18:54,864
Speaker 1: the first season where people were like, what the hell's

432
00:18:54,904 --> 00:18:57,984
Speaker 1: going on with Kristen Davis, She's really gotten back into

433
00:18:58,024 --> 00:19:00,664
Speaker 1: the groove of it and she is Charlotte, and I

434
00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:03,424
Speaker 1: really enjoy seeing her and Harry and how much they

435
00:19:03,464 --> 00:19:06,584
Speaker 1: love each other. And it's so funny when Miranda goes

436
00:19:06,664 --> 00:19:10,304
Speaker 1: up to Harry at the end and says, oh, you know,

437
00:19:10,384 --> 00:19:13,184
Speaker 1: when the unthinkable happens, Charlotte will be fine. Yeah, that

438
00:19:13,224 --> 00:19:16,744
Speaker 1: was great, such a good like that was so funny.

439
00:19:17,144 --> 00:19:19,784
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's the only kind of maybe

440
00:19:19,824 --> 00:19:21,744
Speaker 2: not retraction because I meant it at the time. The

441
00:19:21,744 --> 00:19:23,464
Speaker 2: only kind of caveat I have to say is like,

442
00:19:23,744 --> 00:19:25,544
Speaker 2: we did like a bit of a critique on the spill,

443
00:19:25,624 --> 00:19:27,264
Speaker 2: and I wrote a piece for Sight when the first

444
00:19:27,264 --> 00:19:30,784
Speaker 2: episode of this season came out, and charlotte storyline was

445
00:19:30,824 --> 00:19:33,504
Speaker 2: the one that just infuriated me. Just feel like it

446
00:19:33,544 --> 00:19:35,464
Speaker 2: felt like in that fause. First few episodes, she was

447
00:19:35,504 --> 00:19:37,344
Speaker 2: in a different show to the rest of the characters.

448
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:39,984
Speaker 2: It felt like they were in this dramani that was

449
00:19:39,984 --> 00:19:41,944
Speaker 2: like a bit sanitized, but they were in one show,

450
00:19:42,144 --> 00:19:44,624
Speaker 2: and she was in this weird, over the top after

451
00:19:44,624 --> 00:19:47,144
Speaker 2: school special of having fights with people in the dog park,

452
00:19:47,424 --> 00:19:48,944
Speaker 2: and I was like, if that's gonna be her story

453
00:19:48,984 --> 00:19:51,344
Speaker 2: this season, I cannot And like, I know people hate

454
00:19:51,424 --> 00:19:54,104
Speaker 2: seeing their kids in the show. I don't mind it.

455
00:19:54,144 --> 00:19:57,144
Speaker 2: I don't love them having their own storylines and side characters.

456
00:19:57,264 --> 00:20:00,024
Speaker 2: I think the amount we've seen Brady this season perfect

457
00:20:00,064 --> 00:20:02,304
Speaker 2: he comes in, aren't Carrie Because as a side note,

458
00:20:02,384 --> 00:20:04,944
Speaker 2: I love her carry interacts with her friend's children. It's

459
00:20:04,984 --> 00:20:07,064
Speaker 2: just I think that's something you never see on screens,

460
00:20:07,144 --> 00:20:09,344
Speaker 2: Like a woman in her fifties who hasn't had children

461
00:20:09,384 --> 00:20:11,744
Speaker 2: but is like that close to her friend's children. I

462
00:20:11,784 --> 00:20:13,664
Speaker 2: think you just don't see that, and it's really beautiful.

463
00:20:13,904 --> 00:20:16,744
Speaker 2: But Lily and Rock having these huge storylines I can't

464
00:20:16,784 --> 00:20:19,584
Speaker 2: deal with. But I think Charlotte having work this season,

465
00:20:19,784 --> 00:20:22,864
Speaker 2: having her own storylines and having these emotional moments with

466
00:20:22,904 --> 00:20:25,024
Speaker 2: Harry and being there for her friends, it's like they've

467
00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:26,664
Speaker 2: turned it around. Is what I'm going to say. Like

468
00:20:26,744 --> 00:20:28,384
Speaker 2: I brought it up and I was angry about it,

469
00:20:28,384 --> 00:20:29,304
Speaker 2: but I have turned it around.

470
00:20:29,304 --> 00:20:31,064
Speaker 1: I have to see Charlotte the scene where the guy

471
00:20:31,304 --> 00:20:34,024
Speaker 1: tries to offer her cocaine and she's like ah. I

472
00:20:34,064 --> 00:20:36,224
Speaker 1: was like, that is just the most Charlotte reaction.

473
00:20:36,384 --> 00:20:37,944
Speaker 2: And then when she was just dancing on the floor

474
00:20:37,944 --> 00:20:40,424
Speaker 2: and obviously she was only having this espresso martiniz, but

475
00:20:40,464 --> 00:20:42,104
Speaker 2: it made me think of in the early episodes of

476
00:20:42,104 --> 00:20:43,864
Speaker 2: Sex and the City when she gets really drunk and

477
00:20:43,864 --> 00:20:44,704
Speaker 2: they go on the ferry.

478
00:20:45,264 --> 00:20:49,184
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really enjoying Charlotte the last few episodes. It's like,

479
00:20:49,264 --> 00:20:53,904
Speaker 1: very good. You mentioned the fashion before. Yes, do you

480
00:20:53,944 --> 00:20:55,504
Speaker 1: have a favorite at the moment.

481
00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,664
Speaker 2: Carrie, Like, I love carries out fits. I understand some

482
00:20:57,704 --> 00:20:59,664
Speaker 2: people think they haven't been on point and guys, I

483
00:20:59,704 --> 00:21:01,904
Speaker 2: don't know designers and things. I'm just gonna say in

484
00:21:01,944 --> 00:21:04,064
Speaker 2: the first episode when she runs out to post the

485
00:21:04,144 --> 00:21:07,584
Speaker 2: letter and she wears like the glossy pink dress with

486
00:21:07,624 --> 00:21:09,664
Speaker 2: the glossy pink jacket and she's just running off down

487
00:21:09,704 --> 00:21:12,104
Speaker 2: the road, I loved that. I also loved recently when

488
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,344
Speaker 2: they went to lunch. Oh, it's in a recent episode

489
00:21:14,344 --> 00:21:16,624
Speaker 2: when they were talking about at lunch, She's like saying

490
00:21:16,624 --> 00:21:18,624
Speaker 2: she can't take her shoes off, and the guy drops

491
00:21:18,664 --> 00:21:21,104
Speaker 2: the platter and she was like he gets it. And

492
00:21:21,144 --> 00:21:24,024
Speaker 2: she's walking out with Charlotte in that like fitted dress

493
00:21:24,104 --> 00:21:26,904
Speaker 2: over like a flowy white. This is what two fashion,

494
00:21:27,264 --> 00:21:30,264
Speaker 2: very quintessential carry. Okay, So I didn't love her dress

495
00:21:30,264 --> 00:21:31,784
Speaker 2: at Charlotte's birthday. That's all I say.

496
00:21:31,664 --> 00:21:33,784
Speaker 1: About my unexpected winner.

497
00:21:34,024 --> 00:21:34,464
Speaker 2: M hmm.

498
00:21:34,584 --> 00:21:37,304
Speaker 1: I'm not unexpected, but my absolute favorite this season where

499
00:21:37,304 --> 00:21:38,504
Speaker 1: I've been like, oh my god, I really love that

500
00:21:38,544 --> 00:21:40,264
Speaker 1: outfit Lisa Todd Wexley.

501
00:21:40,464 --> 00:21:42,624
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she is immaculately dressed.

502
00:21:42,624 --> 00:21:44,224
Speaker 1: Okay. So I went in like a big deep dive

503
00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:47,144
Speaker 1: w magazine do these great like Sex and the City,

504
00:21:47,224 --> 00:21:48,744
Speaker 1: what each character wore and then.

505
00:21:48,704 --> 00:21:50,344
Speaker 2: They can go shop it or you can be like

506
00:21:50,384 --> 00:21:51,664
Speaker 2: kind afford that kind of what they.

507
00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:54,304
Speaker 1: Do all the links, yeah stuff. So the one that

508
00:21:54,344 --> 00:21:55,864
Speaker 1: like really stuck out to me was you know when

509
00:21:55,904 --> 00:21:58,864
Speaker 1: they're glamping, Oh yeah, and she's wearing that orange like

510
00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:01,624
Speaker 1: tracksuit set. Yeah, with the dad sandals.

511
00:22:01,664 --> 00:22:03,584
Speaker 2: I was like, that outfit is so cool and add

512
00:22:03,624 --> 00:22:04,264
Speaker 2: that two closet.

513
00:22:04,464 --> 00:22:06,304
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't think I'm cool enough to

514
00:22:06,344 --> 00:22:08,384
Speaker 1: pull it off. But I just love how she does

515
00:22:08,424 --> 00:22:10,744
Speaker 1: these bright colors. So those those sands, so I was like,

516
00:22:11,144 --> 00:22:12,704
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not usually into that dad's and I

517
00:22:12,784 --> 00:22:15,064
Speaker 1: was like, those are really cool. They're Dior and they're

518
00:22:15,104 --> 00:22:16,144
Speaker 1: like sixe hundred dollars.

519
00:22:16,384 --> 00:22:17,664
Speaker 2: Yeah, on that show.

520
00:22:17,944 --> 00:22:20,784
Speaker 1: I'm really upset because I can't afford that. But the

521
00:22:20,824 --> 00:22:22,784
Speaker 1: reason I love it just got this. She has to

522
00:22:22,904 --> 00:22:26,584
Speaker 1: me the most out of all of them, the new characters,

523
00:22:26,584 --> 00:22:30,944
Speaker 1: I will say the most like cohesive wardrobe, Like it

524
00:22:31,064 --> 00:22:34,624
Speaker 1: is really beautiful and brightly colored. She's wearing those you

525
00:22:34,624 --> 00:22:36,664
Speaker 1: know what, those big fendy glasses she wears in the

526
00:22:36,744 --> 00:22:38,824
Speaker 1: edit Sweet when she's in the edit sweet, and she's

527
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:42,704
Speaker 1: got those really big glass her hair. She's just so cool. Yeah,

528
00:22:42,744 --> 00:22:45,424
Speaker 1: and I'm just obsessed with her the funeral despite the

529
00:22:45,424 --> 00:22:46,744
Speaker 1: fact that her dad died twice.

530
00:22:46,944 --> 00:22:49,824
Speaker 2: That's that suit, but I'm sure she'll top both times.

531
00:22:49,904 --> 00:22:53,664
Speaker 1: And the hat. Yeah, that suit is from Victor D'SUSA.

532
00:22:54,424 --> 00:22:54,784
Speaker 2: Love that.

533
00:22:54,904 --> 00:22:58,664
Speaker 1: Just so you know. Leberton Hills red bottoms always, These

534
00:22:58,664 --> 00:23:00,384
Speaker 1: aren't red bottoms, these friends are are.

535
00:23:01,064 --> 00:23:02,864
Speaker 2: I don't say, wow, what are shoe flax? But no,

536
00:23:03,544 --> 00:23:04,384
Speaker 2: I don't have. No.

537
00:23:04,544 --> 00:23:06,584
Speaker 1: I do have a pair of Lubetons, but I did

538
00:23:06,624 --> 00:23:09,784
Speaker 1: not wear them because they're very uncomfortable. Yeah, Luberton does

539
00:23:09,824 --> 00:23:12,144
Speaker 1: not like when fate No is what I've always said.

540
00:23:12,744 --> 00:23:15,904
Speaker 1: His most famous shoes are so kate, which you will

541
00:23:15,904 --> 00:23:18,784
Speaker 1: see a lot in Sex and the City and hats

542
00:23:18,784 --> 00:23:20,664
Speaker 1: off as JP. She knows how to walk it a

543
00:23:20,744 --> 00:23:21,144
Speaker 1: so okate.

544
00:23:21,304 --> 00:23:22,344
Speaker 2: Yes, so there's ok.

545
00:23:22,584 --> 00:23:25,104
Speaker 1: It's this is a bit of law. The so kates,

546
00:23:25,144 --> 00:23:27,664
Speaker 1: which are like there are one hundred and ten mills, right,

547
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,744
Speaker 1: you can buy one hundred and ten one hundred miles,

548
00:23:30,064 --> 00:23:33,944
Speaker 1: so that's either eleven centimeters or ten centimeters. But there's

549
00:23:33,984 --> 00:23:36,264
Speaker 1: a platform on them. So the arch on the so

550
00:23:36,464 --> 00:23:40,024
Speaker 1: kate is so intense that it becomes very difficult to

551
00:23:40,064 --> 00:23:42,944
Speaker 1: walk in. Zendaa also can walk in a so okay. Oh,

552
00:23:42,944 --> 00:23:46,064
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I have tried to wear them multiple

553
00:23:46,104 --> 00:23:50,864
Speaker 1: times their dinner shoes only. But like Lubaton's, are notoriously

554
00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:55,344
Speaker 1: difficult to walk in and very very very uncomfortable. But

555
00:23:55,384 --> 00:23:56,584
Speaker 1: they really really pretty.

556
00:23:57,024 --> 00:23:58,984
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the most important thing. That's what

557
00:23:58,984 --> 00:24:00,584
Speaker 2: I'll say about shoes and human beings.

558
00:24:00,664 --> 00:24:04,304
Speaker 1: So I will say the shoes have been very good.

559
00:24:04,584 --> 00:24:06,984
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you'd expect nothing. Obviously they don't have Patricia

560
00:24:06,984 --> 00:24:09,144
Speaker 2: fil in the mix. The stylus they have now is great,

561
00:24:09,184 --> 00:24:10,184
Speaker 2: and I know that carry.

562
00:24:09,944 --> 00:24:12,944
Speaker 1: You miss Patricia Field, Like there's nothing like Patricia. When

563
00:24:12,984 --> 00:24:14,424
Speaker 1: I lived in New York, I went to the Patricia

564
00:24:14,464 --> 00:24:18,864
Speaker 1: Field Vintage store in Arms, Like this place is incredible.

565
00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:21,024
Speaker 2: She does have an eye. But look, I do love

566
00:24:21,064 --> 00:24:23,184
Speaker 2: when Carrie's fashion is a little bit crazy, Like I

567
00:24:23,184 --> 00:24:24,704
Speaker 2: know she's been getting a lot of shit for that

568
00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:27,744
Speaker 2: huge hat that she wears. I like to know that

569
00:24:27,784 --> 00:24:30,624
Speaker 2: hat appeared on Watch What Happens Live The hat came

570
00:24:30,664 --> 00:24:34,224
Speaker 2: out it was a carthoon and asked SJP questions about

571
00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:36,624
Speaker 2: like who is the worst dressed on the show and

572
00:24:36,624 --> 00:24:39,344
Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. And obviously I think she's

573
00:24:39,344 --> 00:24:42,264
Speaker 2: so aware of the criticism of that. That's what I mean.

574
00:24:42,464 --> 00:24:44,824
Speaker 2: All the cast and the writers and producers of Michael

575
00:24:44,864 --> 00:24:47,984
Speaker 2: Patrick King all seems so very very aware of all

576
00:24:48,144 --> 00:24:50,664
Speaker 2: like different parts of the backlash and things we say.

577
00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:53,224
Speaker 2: And there's certain things that they really weigh in on

578
00:24:53,584 --> 00:24:55,424
Speaker 2: and certain things they not, Like you haven't seen any

579
00:24:55,464 --> 00:24:57,424
Speaker 2: of them coming out about the double death scene with

580
00:24:57,504 --> 00:25:00,224
Speaker 2: Lisa Todd, Wecksley's father or anything like that. But Sarah

581
00:25:00,264 --> 00:25:02,464
Speaker 2: Deeska Parker does not stand for anyone making fun of

582
00:25:02,464 --> 00:25:05,144
Speaker 2: the clothes or say anything bad about the clothes, particularly

583
00:25:05,184 --> 00:25:07,504
Speaker 2: the hat, because she named the designer and said it's

584
00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:10,104
Speaker 2: an incredible piece of art and it's meant to be art.

585
00:25:10,424 --> 00:25:12,624
Speaker 2: That's the spirit in which you should look at it,

586
00:25:12,664 --> 00:25:14,664
Speaker 2: which is exactly what I thought. And of course for

587
00:25:14,704 --> 00:25:17,104
Speaker 2: everyone who' should have gone that hat. Of course Carrie

588
00:25:17,144 --> 00:25:19,904
Speaker 2: would wear that hat. She'd wear it now more than ever.

589
00:25:20,024 --> 00:25:22,784
Speaker 2: That woman has nothing but time and money. And when

590
00:25:22,784 --> 00:25:26,384
Speaker 2: you have unlimited time and money, you start wearing weird hats. Yeah,

591
00:25:26,424 --> 00:25:28,544
Speaker 2: and you've got to find something to fill your time.

592
00:25:28,664 --> 00:25:30,864
Speaker 1: She's becoming an eccentric older woman.

593
00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:32,984
Speaker 2: And I love that for her, perfect because that's what

594
00:25:32,984 --> 00:25:33,624
Speaker 2: she was in her.

595
00:25:33,504 --> 00:25:36,824
Speaker 1: Twenty so upset about this glass, yeah, like that is

596
00:25:36,984 --> 00:25:38,584
Speaker 1: very eccentric older woman behavior.

597
00:25:38,744 --> 00:25:40,064
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I feel like she would have done that

598
00:25:40,104 --> 00:25:41,944
Speaker 2: in her twenties as well, because it has like the rainbow.

599
00:25:41,984 --> 00:25:44,104
Speaker 2: She's very particular about her space and her stuff.

600
00:25:44,504 --> 00:25:47,144
Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't want to eat because of Vogue,

601
00:25:47,224 --> 00:25:49,424
Speaker 1: Like she didn't care that much about her apartment, like

602
00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,504
Speaker 1: in the early seasons. She didn't really care about what

603
00:25:51,544 --> 00:25:52,424
Speaker 1: her apartment looked like.

604
00:25:52,464 --> 00:25:53,984
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she cares about like the value

605
00:25:54,104 --> 00:25:55,944
Speaker 2: or like the cleanliness or anything like that. But I

606
00:25:55,944 --> 00:25:57,784
Speaker 2: think she was it was a story for her, Like

607
00:25:57,824 --> 00:26:01,344
Speaker 2: she's at her soul, she's a diehard romantic. She didn't

608
00:26:01,344 --> 00:26:03,184
Speaker 2: care how much the glass costs. She cared that you

609
00:26:03,464 --> 00:26:06,184
Speaker 2: made a rainbow go into the room. Like in her heart,

610
00:26:06,224 --> 00:26:07,824
Speaker 2: she is a little girl. I love that for her,

611
00:26:07,864 --> 00:26:10,464
Speaker 2: Like she likes pretty sparkly things. Did you think that

612
00:26:10,504 --> 00:26:11,984
Speaker 2: was weird when she saw Miranda naked.

613
00:26:12,184 --> 00:26:12,424
Speaker 3: Yeah.

614
00:26:12,464 --> 00:26:14,584
Speaker 2: But here's the other thing about Carrie. Love that woman

615
00:26:14,664 --> 00:26:18,624
Speaker 2: to death. Like literally prude. She's an absolute prude, right,

616
00:26:18,704 --> 00:26:23,064
Speaker 2: she doesn't like talking about sex, body stuff anything like that.

617
00:26:23,144 --> 00:26:25,104
Speaker 2: Also harve relate. I'm a bit of a prude as well.

618
00:26:25,224 --> 00:26:27,944
Speaker 2: Oh it's yeah, Well, I mean that's fair. But the

619
00:26:28,104 --> 00:26:31,864
Speaker 2: thing is about poo, well, I definitely don't. That's the

620
00:26:31,904 --> 00:26:35,064
Speaker 2: thing that's quintessential Carrie is that all through Sex and

621
00:26:35,104 --> 00:26:37,224
Speaker 2: the City is like she's a sex columnist. But when

622
00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:39,704
Speaker 2: her friends tell her things about sex and she should

623
00:26:39,784 --> 00:26:41,824
Speaker 2: be like, oh great, because she's using them for fodder

624
00:26:41,824 --> 00:26:43,744
Speaker 2: for her column. She should be like, oh, this is

625
00:26:43,744 --> 00:26:45,784
Speaker 2: a great story, so interesting, tell me more about that.

626
00:26:45,824 --> 00:26:48,864
Speaker 2: Because she describes herself as a sexual anthropologist, but she's

627
00:26:49,064 --> 00:26:52,184
Speaker 2: just a very prudish woman at heart. If you watch

628
00:26:52,224 --> 00:26:53,984
Speaker 2: like Sex and the City three, every times her friends

629
00:26:53,984 --> 00:26:56,464
Speaker 2: bring up sex or anything, she's like, oh, don't tell

630
00:26:56,504 --> 00:26:57,904
Speaker 2: me about that. I want to hear about that, even

631
00:26:58,024 --> 00:27:00,224
Speaker 2: like recently in and just like that visit scene where

632
00:27:00,224 --> 00:27:02,424
Speaker 2: Seema comes into her apartment and she was like, oh

633
00:27:02,424 --> 00:27:04,504
Speaker 2: my god, I told him I loved him and he

634
00:27:04,624 --> 00:27:06,824
Speaker 2: was still inside of me, and Carry's like, oh, I'm

635
00:27:06,864 --> 00:27:10,344
Speaker 2: eating and I'm like she literally said the like nicest

636
00:27:10,504 --> 00:27:13,344
Speaker 2: way you could describe sex in like very kind of

637
00:27:14,144 --> 00:27:17,544
Speaker 2: basic terms, and you're saying that you're now put off

638
00:27:17,544 --> 00:27:19,344
Speaker 2: your lunch forever. But that's just carry.

639
00:27:19,464 --> 00:27:21,704
Speaker 1: I think it is carry. I think that's very very legitimate.

640
00:27:21,744 --> 00:27:23,984
Speaker 1: It just made me laugh because it was like, again

641
00:27:24,104 --> 00:27:27,024
Speaker 1: this surrealest comedy. It was this kind of jump scare,

642
00:27:27,104 --> 00:27:31,064
Speaker 1: which it was meant to be, and that classic carry

643
00:27:31,064 --> 00:27:31,824
Speaker 1: phase where she's like.

644
00:27:31,864 --> 00:27:35,024
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love it. She's that woman is perpetually shocked,

645
00:27:35,064 --> 00:27:38,224
Speaker 2: she's perpetually screaming. She's just like a beautiful little fairy

646
00:27:38,264 --> 00:27:39,864
Speaker 2: that like flits through New York City and we can't

647
00:27:39,864 --> 00:27:42,424
Speaker 2: expect normal things from her. Okay, so that's when Obviously

648
00:27:42,424 --> 00:27:43,864
Speaker 2: we're not doing spoilers for the rest of the season

649
00:27:43,864 --> 00:27:46,224
Speaker 2: because we haven't seen them yet. I did get some screeners.

650
00:27:46,264 --> 00:27:47,744
Speaker 2: I'm not going to watch them because I like to

651
00:27:47,824 --> 00:27:50,024
Speaker 2: experience and just like that with you guys, and I

652
00:27:50,104 --> 00:27:52,224
Speaker 2: like to I put it into people with the people.

653
00:27:52,344 --> 00:27:53,384
Speaker 1: Like to experience with the people.

654
00:27:53,424 --> 00:27:54,904
Speaker 2: I like six people to the people. I don't want

655
00:27:54,904 --> 00:27:56,664
Speaker 2: to hold it in once I've seen it. I also

656
00:27:56,784 --> 00:27:59,144
Speaker 2: dedicate half of a Saturday to like watching it. It's

657
00:27:59,144 --> 00:28:02,184
Speaker 2: a whole thing. So where we're going next, because now

658
00:28:02,184 --> 00:28:04,144
Speaker 2: we're like pretty much midway through the season, they're going

659
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:05,944
Speaker 2: to be building to a big finale. We don't know

660
00:28:05,944 --> 00:28:08,424
Speaker 2: if it's coming back. I really really hope it does.

661
00:28:08,904 --> 00:28:11,144
Speaker 2: We've had a few little hints on the way, and

662
00:28:11,184 --> 00:28:13,424
Speaker 2: one of the big hints about what's gonna happen happened

663
00:28:13,464 --> 00:28:15,864
Speaker 2: on this episode of Watch What Happens Live because Andy

664
00:28:15,904 --> 00:28:19,104
Speaker 2: Cohens says to Sarah Jessica Parker, do you think Aiden

665
00:28:19,144 --> 00:28:21,584
Speaker 2: and carry our endgame? And like they're good friends, so

666
00:28:21,584 --> 00:28:23,344
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he must know how the season ends. I

667
00:28:23,344 --> 00:28:26,144
Speaker 2: don't know, And Sarah Jessica Parker, who's usually so good

668
00:28:26,144 --> 00:28:30,104
Speaker 2: at keeping her cool, pauses and says, wait, which episode's

669
00:28:30,104 --> 00:28:32,784
Speaker 2: airing right now? I mean she also likes to tease

670
00:28:32,784 --> 00:28:34,544
Speaker 2: and like muck around with things. So I don't know,

671
00:28:34,624 --> 00:28:36,904
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying that made me feel like there's

672
00:28:36,904 --> 00:28:39,464
Speaker 2: a breakup coming. Well, I mean, which.

673
00:28:39,304 --> 00:28:42,784
Speaker 1: They haven't introduced Duncan for no reason.

674
00:28:42,904 --> 00:28:45,184
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she's gonna date the hot author, right.

675
00:28:45,184 --> 00:28:47,744
Speaker 1: I mean he made it her mutton stew.

676
00:28:48,024 --> 00:28:50,064
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was hilarious and she had to eat tombs

677
00:28:50,064 --> 00:28:51,704
Speaker 2: for the rest of the week. I'd love someone to

678
00:28:51,744 --> 00:28:53,784
Speaker 2: circle back to the fact that she said marrying Big

679
00:28:53,864 --> 00:28:56,144
Speaker 2: was a mistake and no one's ever brought that up again.

680
00:28:56,464 --> 00:28:59,264
Speaker 2: That the whole of that. Yeah, it's when she gets

681
00:28:59,304 --> 00:29:01,664
Speaker 2: back together with Aiden and she Miranda walking down the

682
00:29:01,704 --> 00:29:05,104
Speaker 2: street and then Carrie goes, this is why you watch

683
00:29:05,144 --> 00:29:06,984
Speaker 2: it three times? Yeah you well, I mean, I don't

684
00:29:06,984 --> 00:29:08,424
Speaker 2: know how you missed this moment. But yeah, well I've

685
00:29:08,424 --> 00:29:11,224
Speaker 2: watched it all than three times because I don't Yeah, oh,

686
00:29:11,304 --> 00:29:13,104
Speaker 2: don't get me started on that. No, you have to

687
00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:14,304
Speaker 2: sit down phone another room.

688
00:29:15,464 --> 00:29:16,184
Speaker 1: That's the point of it.

689
00:29:16,464 --> 00:29:18,704
Speaker 2: I can do it while I'm well, now you've missed

690
00:29:18,704 --> 00:29:21,464
Speaker 2: a huge plot point. Well, because why have you, Laura

691
00:29:21,504 --> 00:29:24,024
Speaker 2: bro exactly. And so they're walking on the street and

692
00:29:24,064 --> 00:29:27,664
Speaker 2: Carrie says Miranda was big, just a big mistake, as

693
00:29:27,784 --> 00:29:30,784
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have picked him over Aiden, and Miranda just

694
00:29:30,824 --> 00:29:32,584
Speaker 2: looks at her sad and they both keep on walking.

695
00:29:32,584 --> 00:29:34,304
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're never going to pick that up again.

696
00:29:34,784 --> 00:29:36,104
Speaker 2: Seems like a pretty huge deal.

697
00:29:36,224 --> 00:29:39,624
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like there is definitely a

698
00:29:39,664 --> 00:29:42,424
Speaker 1: breakup coming between them if she cheats on him again,

699
00:29:42,784 --> 00:29:45,104
Speaker 1: like if they hear her, well I know, but if

700
00:29:45,144 --> 00:29:48,904
Speaker 1: they like actually get back together and she cheats on

701
00:29:48,984 --> 00:29:50,504
Speaker 1: him with the hot other, like I'm going to be

702
00:29:50,544 --> 00:29:52,584
Speaker 1: so pissed at her. She can't do that to him again.

703
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:54,464
Speaker 2: Well, now they had the talk. Apparently there was the

704
00:29:54,504 --> 00:29:57,264
Speaker 2: window of opportunity, but now it's closed. So also, if

705
00:29:57,304 --> 00:29:59,144
Speaker 2: it is going to go into another season, I feel

706
00:29:59,184 --> 00:30:02,224
Speaker 2: like this Aiden thing, they're in, this weird limbo. They've

707
00:30:02,224 --> 00:30:04,544
Speaker 2: given him and his family so much screen time. I

708
00:30:04,544 --> 00:30:06,304
Speaker 2: feel like that will come to a point where maybe

709
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,224
Speaker 2: they'll say, like let's see each other again, Like let's

710
00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:09,704
Speaker 2: not see each other, but maybe we'll catch up in

711
00:30:09,744 --> 00:30:10,864
Speaker 2: a few years and and then she can go on

712
00:30:10,904 --> 00:30:12,944
Speaker 2: to date Duncan. That would be really cute.

713
00:30:13,024 --> 00:30:14,984
Speaker 1: I would like to see Lisa date the hot editor.

714
00:30:15,464 --> 00:30:17,344
Speaker 2: No, I don't want her and Herbert to break.

715
00:30:17,504 --> 00:30:17,544
Speaker 3: No.

716
00:30:17,624 --> 00:30:19,984
Speaker 1: I like Herbert because I also really like Camels.

717
00:30:21,024 --> 00:30:23,104
Speaker 2: You know, when people were like, I can't believe that

718
00:30:23,144 --> 00:30:25,304
Speaker 2: he's singing, I'm like, you don't have that man in

719
00:30:25,304 --> 00:30:26,384
Speaker 2: this show? Would not have him seen?

720
00:30:26,504 --> 00:30:28,184
Speaker 1: No, he's amazing. I do really like him, and I

721
00:30:28,184 --> 00:30:30,144
Speaker 1: think he's a great husband. But the hot.

722
00:30:30,464 --> 00:30:34,344
Speaker 2: Marilyn Nut, No, I don't, I know. I want I

723
00:30:34,424 --> 00:30:36,904
Speaker 2: want someone took up and speaking of hot really quickly

724
00:30:36,944 --> 00:30:38,704
Speaker 2: before I go on to my point that I actually prepped.

725
00:30:38,984 --> 00:30:42,464
Speaker 2: So the gardener hooking up with Sema and singing Betty

726
00:30:42,544 --> 00:30:45,064
Speaker 2: Davis eres the same week that Jojo Si was getting

727
00:30:45,064 --> 00:30:47,824
Speaker 2: canned for singing Betty Davis eye full circle moment. I

728
00:30:47,904 --> 00:30:49,944
Speaker 2: just need everyone to know that's trade from the OC.

729
00:30:50,144 --> 00:30:52,544
Speaker 2: Like people know that, right. You didn't watch the OC.

730
00:30:52,784 --> 00:30:52,904
Speaker 3: Oh?

731
00:30:52,944 --> 00:30:55,144
Speaker 1: Like, no, I didn't watch, but not that closely.

732
00:30:55,504 --> 00:30:58,224
Speaker 2: He's a massive character. So if you watched one of

733
00:30:58,264 --> 00:31:02,024
Speaker 2: the biggest seven, No, no, this is so important. So

734
00:31:02,544 --> 00:31:05,264
Speaker 2: in the OC, Ryan's brother Trey gets out of prison,

735
00:31:05,344 --> 00:31:08,264
Speaker 2: comes to with the family. Yeah, it's a huge, big thing.

736
00:31:08,304 --> 00:31:10,584
Speaker 2: It's it's the whole point of the season. And in

737
00:31:10,624 --> 00:31:14,184
Speaker 2: the end, Marissa because he's beating Ryan up, Trey's gonna

738
00:31:14,264 --> 00:31:18,064
Speaker 2: kill Ryan Marissaye and Marissa shoots him in the back

739
00:31:18,064 --> 00:31:20,944
Speaker 2: and that song plays. It's so great. So when he

740
00:31:21,024 --> 00:31:22,984
Speaker 2: was up at the party in the last episode singing

741
00:31:22,984 --> 00:31:25,984
Speaker 2: Betty Davis eyes, I was like, I'm so glad that

742
00:31:26,064 --> 00:31:28,464
Speaker 2: Trey Atwood after he left on the bus and went away,

743
00:31:28,784 --> 00:31:30,904
Speaker 2: found his feet and he's living New York and he's

744
00:31:30,944 --> 00:31:33,544
Speaker 2: fixing Carry's guard and he's dating singer. I just never

745
00:31:33,584 --> 00:31:35,624
Speaker 2: want to know that he's not he's see yet. Well

746
00:31:35,664 --> 00:31:37,744
Speaker 2: they're having how hot and heavy makeout session and he

747
00:31:37,824 --> 00:31:39,424
Speaker 2: sang to her at karaoke and it was hot. It

748
00:31:39,504 --> 00:31:41,384
Speaker 2: was so hot. I want no other thoughts on that,

749
00:31:41,544 --> 00:31:42,224
Speaker 2: no critique.

750
00:31:42,344 --> 00:31:45,144
Speaker 1: Why being so like man HATI.

751
00:31:45,304 --> 00:31:48,024
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just again, they introduced her as

752
00:31:48,024 --> 00:31:50,664
Speaker 2: a caro man like her. I do like her. I

753
00:31:50,704 --> 00:31:52,864
Speaker 2: love her. I love the actress. I love the character. Yeah,

754
00:31:53,104 --> 00:31:55,584
Speaker 2: sometimes I think people think that she maybe shouldn't want

755
00:31:55,584 --> 00:31:57,024
Speaker 2: love because they're like, she's meant to be this really

756
00:31:57,024 --> 00:31:58,904
Speaker 2: fierce character, and I was like, the whole point of

757
00:31:58,904 --> 00:32:01,984
Speaker 2: having complex characters is they're not these stereo cookie cut

758
00:32:02,024 --> 00:32:03,704
Speaker 2: of people like she's a fierce woman and she wears

759
00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:06,024
Speaker 2: animal prints, she doesn't need a man. She might be

760
00:32:06,064 --> 00:32:08,024
Speaker 2: all those things and desperately want to fall in love

761
00:32:08,144 --> 00:32:08,744
Speaker 2: like I feel.

762
00:32:08,544 --> 00:32:11,344
Speaker 1: Like glad to Like I hate that matchmaker thing where

763
00:32:11,344 --> 00:32:13,664
Speaker 1: they were trying oh like that storyline that was great, No,

764
00:32:13,744 --> 00:32:15,224
Speaker 1: but I didn't like that the fact that she was

765
00:32:15,264 --> 00:32:17,344
Speaker 1: like the matchmaker was trying to tell saman to like

766
00:32:17,664 --> 00:32:18,704
Speaker 1: pull it, oh.

767
00:32:18,584 --> 00:32:20,264
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was being too much. But I think

768
00:32:20,264 --> 00:32:21,584
Speaker 2: that was the whole point where that she was like,

769
00:32:21,624 --> 00:32:23,464
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bean more than that. So they're just our

770
00:32:23,544 --> 00:32:25,904
Speaker 2: random thoughts on what's happening the season, which is I

771
00:32:25,904 --> 00:32:28,144
Speaker 2: hope what you guys wanted. But I would say I've

772
00:32:28,184 --> 00:32:30,744
Speaker 2: still seen a lot of people saying, when are we're

773
00:32:30,744 --> 00:32:33,344
Speaker 2: getting a Samantha cameo? When is she coming back? Because

774
00:32:33,344 --> 00:32:35,024
Speaker 2: obviously we have one at the end of last season.

775
00:32:35,264 --> 00:32:36,824
Speaker 2: But that was a huge thing with like the head

776
00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:40,064
Speaker 2: of HBO calling her directly, and Kim Cotrell only did

777
00:32:40,104 --> 00:32:42,144
Speaker 2: it if she could still be very much in control,

778
00:32:42,184 --> 00:32:45,184
Speaker 2: so she got to pick how she filmed. She said,

779
00:32:45,184 --> 00:32:47,664
Speaker 2: I'll only do it if Pat Fields comes back and

780
00:32:47,744 --> 00:32:50,744
Speaker 2: dresses specifically me, when she wouldn't dress the main women

781
00:32:50,784 --> 00:32:52,824
Speaker 2: in the cast, only if, like when she did the

782
00:32:52,824 --> 00:32:55,144
Speaker 2: phone call, that Sarah Jessica Parker wasn't on the other

783
00:32:55,224 --> 00:32:57,824
Speaker 2: end of it, so that all happens. So everyone's been really.

784
00:32:57,544 --> 00:32:59,544
Speaker 1: Asking, well, she was there in text.

785
00:32:59,904 --> 00:33:01,504
Speaker 2: That's a hard thing too, is like a lot of

786
00:33:01,504 --> 00:33:04,984
Speaker 2: people are saying, don't ask the actresses about it because

787
00:33:05,064 --> 00:33:08,224
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have to keep commenting on Kim Katrell, which

788
00:33:08,264 --> 00:33:11,024
Speaker 2: I do agree to an extent, especially so Jessica Parker,

789
00:33:11,024 --> 00:33:13,424
Speaker 2: because she's not going to say anything at this stage.

790
00:33:13,504 --> 00:33:15,584
Speaker 2: She's not gonna say anything bad about King Control. She's

791
00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:17,304
Speaker 2: kept her mouth shut for years and years and years,

792
00:33:17,304 --> 00:33:18,824
Speaker 2: like she's not going to do it now, especially when

793
00:33:18,824 --> 00:33:21,904
Speaker 2: she's doing all this press. But the actresses keep getting

794
00:33:21,944 --> 00:33:25,584
Speaker 2: asked about Kim Cantrell, about Samantha coming back, and it's

795
00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:28,744
Speaker 2: so interesting because it's the only big line of questioning

796
00:33:29,104 --> 00:33:32,384
Speaker 2: that they completely shut down. They don't want to be

797
00:33:32,464 --> 00:33:35,544
Speaker 2: asked it. And also they're going back and rewriting history

798
00:33:35,864 --> 00:33:38,944
Speaker 2: by saying that Samantha was not in their official group,

799
00:33:39,264 --> 00:33:41,264
Speaker 2: like this interview that was done during the press run.

800
00:33:41,424 --> 00:33:43,864
Speaker 3: Even in the past, I don't feel that Charlotte really

801
00:33:43,904 --> 00:33:46,344
Speaker 3: relied on Samantha that much for support.

802
00:33:46,544 --> 00:33:49,784
Speaker 4: We see Carrie and Samantha testing a lot this season

803
00:33:49,984 --> 00:33:52,664
Speaker 4: and in past seasons. Do you hope, as I do,

804
00:33:52,824 --> 00:33:56,544
Speaker 4: that Miranda and Samantha are testing this season and maybe

805
00:33:56,664 --> 00:33:59,104
Speaker 4: Miranda is reaching out to Samantha for some insight and

806
00:33:59,224 --> 00:34:02,504
Speaker 4: to support as she explores her sexuality.

807
00:34:03,584 --> 00:34:10,664
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't. And in the beginning especially, sometimes

808
00:34:10,704 --> 00:34:13,184
Speaker 3: they have these funny episodes that I'm looking back on

809
00:34:13,264 --> 00:34:15,264
Speaker 3: now with the podcast where I take care of Samantha,

810
00:34:15,264 --> 00:34:16,504
Speaker 3: which is fascinating.

811
00:34:16,864 --> 00:34:17,704
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like.

812
00:34:17,744 --> 00:34:20,464
Speaker 3: Charlotte really relied on Samantha that much, So I don't

813
00:34:20,664 --> 00:34:22,384
Speaker 3: know if she'd reach out to her, but I do

814
00:34:22,464 --> 00:34:23,064
Speaker 3: think she'd.

815
00:34:22,864 --> 00:34:23,624
Speaker 2: Be friendly with her.

816
00:34:23,704 --> 00:34:26,944
Speaker 3: You know. I don't think she has any any particular

817
00:34:27,184 --> 00:34:29,344
Speaker 3: issues or problems, you know, with her.

818
00:34:29,744 --> 00:34:30,264
Speaker 2: Do you know what?

819
00:34:30,304 --> 00:34:33,024
Speaker 1: I actually think this is valid because out of all

820
00:34:33,064 --> 00:34:36,064
Speaker 1: of them, Miranda and Samantha had the least sort of

821
00:34:36,384 --> 00:34:39,264
Speaker 1: relationship together apart from a time when Marita gave birth

822
00:34:39,264 --> 00:34:41,424
Speaker 1: and Samantha came over and too. The Vibrator on Lady

823
00:34:41,464 --> 00:34:43,704
Speaker 1: when he was a baby. Yes, they weren't ever really

824
00:34:43,744 --> 00:34:44,944
Speaker 1: like super super close.

825
00:34:45,064 --> 00:34:46,944
Speaker 2: Yes they were, Okay, that's what people are saying.

826
00:34:46,984 --> 00:34:51,304
Speaker 1: No were Miranda specifically.

827
00:34:51,864 --> 00:34:54,624
Speaker 2: They were all close. They were four of them were close,

828
00:34:54,664 --> 00:34:56,184
Speaker 2: but in terms of we see them in scenes with

829
00:34:56,344 --> 00:34:58,024
Speaker 2: carry more, but they are like they were like a

830
00:34:58,064 --> 00:35:00,784
Speaker 2: four group of best friends. So what is Kristin Davis

831
00:35:00,824 --> 00:35:03,864
Speaker 2: doing saying that Samantha and Charlotte didn't have that much

832
00:35:03,864 --> 00:35:04,784
Speaker 2: to do with each other.

833
00:35:04,904 --> 00:35:07,144
Speaker 1: But you can be in a group of girlfriends and

834
00:35:07,184 --> 00:35:09,384
Speaker 1: have a group of four and there will always be

835
00:35:09,424 --> 00:35:12,624
Speaker 1: ones that are closer to others, right, So you know.

836
00:35:12,664 --> 00:35:14,264
Speaker 2: I not I yeah, I understand that, but I'm just

837
00:35:14,304 --> 00:35:16,984
Speaker 2: saying that that was never this fors theme. Like the

838
00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:21,104
Speaker 2: inference was that they were all very very close, like

839
00:35:21,144 --> 00:35:22,664
Speaker 2: the four of them, And yes, we often see them

840
00:35:22,664 --> 00:35:24,664
Speaker 2: in their shots with Carrie because she's the main character.

841
00:35:24,984 --> 00:35:26,904
Speaker 2: But it just felt very weird of Kristen Davis to

842
00:35:27,024 --> 00:35:29,024
Speaker 2: just it just not weird, like she's allowed to say

843
00:35:29,024 --> 00:35:30,744
Speaker 2: what she wants. But and she has gone back and

844
00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:32,704
Speaker 2: watched the show, where is Sara Jusca Parker hasn't? So

845
00:35:32,744 --> 00:35:35,584
Speaker 2: if anyone's across what's happening because christ and Davis hosts

846
00:35:35,584 --> 00:35:37,384
Speaker 2: a podcast now where she looks back at the show,

847
00:35:37,744 --> 00:35:39,504
Speaker 2: so I feel like it's fresh in her mind. I

848
00:35:39,544 --> 00:35:42,544
Speaker 2: just don't understand why she's rewriting history. And they could

849
00:35:42,544 --> 00:35:44,264
Speaker 2: have just kind of shrug that question of I don't

850
00:35:44,304 --> 00:35:46,624
Speaker 2: know that she is just I actually disagree with you here,

851
00:35:46,664 --> 00:35:48,304
Speaker 2: But I just feel like feels very pointed of her

852
00:35:48,304 --> 00:35:50,944
Speaker 2: to say that, because whether she believes or not, she

853
00:35:51,064 --> 00:35:53,184
Speaker 2: knew it would definitely get picked up. She knew that

854
00:35:53,224 --> 00:35:54,864
Speaker 2: it was like kind of drawing a line in the

855
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Speaker 2: sand between from everything we know, Kristen Davis and Cynthia

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Speaker 2: Nixon are still friendly with Kim Kachrall, especially Cynthia Nixon,

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Speaker 2: like they've had a few like online pleasantries and things.

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Speaker 2: But it was very much to me like kind of

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Speaker 2: drawing a line in the sand to say, I don't

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Speaker 2: even think that Samantha was really friends with the girls

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Speaker 2: and not with Charlotte. No, they wouldn't really be talking

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Speaker 2: or anything like that. And then for Cynthia to like

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Speaker 2: she's shut down that question so intensely.

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Speaker 1: Because she's over answering questions about King Patrol.

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Speaker 2: Because there's been some backlash to that clip. That's why

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Speaker 2: I've seen it, because it's got fans really divided. Like

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Speaker 2: some people are like angry at the journalists being stop

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Speaker 2: asking them and like stop bringing this up, and you're trying.

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Speaker 1: To put she's exasperated, like and they said, no, leave

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Speaker 1: it alone.

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Speaker 2: Also, just in the defense of the interview because I'm

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Speaker 2: always on the interviewer site, is that they have put

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Speaker 2: Samantha's text as part of the story and so it's

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Speaker 2: part of the story. You have to ask it. I

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Speaker 2: just thought it was really interesting of like a how

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Speaker 2: they're trying to rewrite history and be how they are

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Speaker 2: so quick to shut that down from all the crazy

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Speaker 2: things they get asked on these press tours that they

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Speaker 2: just want this conversation gone. Well, so we're not getting

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Speaker 2: a Samantha cameo, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see, we'll see what happens. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we will either, but let's see what happens

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Speaker 1: with Aiden and Carry and then we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: a full brutally on its review.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the sear And even with all

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Speaker 2: my criticism kind of say, I freaking love this show.

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Speaker 2: I love we do I love that it exists. I

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Speaker 2: love everything about it. I watch every episode five times.

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Speaker 2: I just want that all the record.

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Speaker 1: This my critique of Miranda.

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Speaker 2: Was not watching a show. Is that you also critique it.

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Speaker 2: I have criticus of the original Sex and the City too,

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm just concerned for Miranda.

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Speaker 2: I understand that where's your backbone?

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Speaker 1: Girl? Like I want to see my Miranda again.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she's coming. She's coming. Well, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for listening to The Spill today. Please come

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Speaker 2: let us know what you think of them, just like that,

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Speaker 1: Would like someone to discuss with me and agree with

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Speaker 1: me on Miranda.

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