WEBVTT - How To Be More Productive (Without Trying Too Hard)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I'MM with mea podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Bizz, the podcast that skips the

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<v Speaker 2>inspirational quotes and get straight to the stuff that actually works.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is m Vernon, and look, don't tell anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm actually supposed to be in a meeting right

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<v Speaker 2>now instead of here talking to you, which kind of

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<v Speaker 2>makes this episode particularly relevant because we're talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>to be productive without trying too hard. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>those people who make productivity look completely effortless, Well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to actually be stealing their secrets while also making

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<v Speaker 2>it achievable for those of us who don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>wake up at four am every single morning. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>over those lists of ten productivity hacks because it's just

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<v Speaker 2>too much to remember and I end up using absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>none of them. So what I've done is I've asked

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<v Speaker 2>our two career coaches, Michelle Batisbye and Sohurst, to just

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<v Speaker 2>keep it real and give us one game changing productivity

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<v Speaker 2>strategy each that will actually work. Michelle is an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 2>who launched Bumble in Australia and now runs her own startup,

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<v Speaker 2>and So took the leap from Google to launch a

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<v Speaker 2>coaching program for people in their early career era just

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<v Speaker 2>like me. So let's get into it with what you

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<v Speaker 2>struggle with when it comes to those dreaded hacks.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a journal where I write every day, and

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<v Speaker 3>I often make plans to get my life like more

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<v Speaker 3>organized and be more productive. But every time I say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>today's the day I want to do it, or like

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<v Speaker 3>come up with a plan, I ended up not sticking

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<v Speaker 3>to it or just like not following through. So I

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<v Speaker 3>need advice how to make the plan and stick to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it when someone tells me to just plan

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<v Speaker 1>my day ahead and I'll be more productive because the

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<v Speaker 1>plan always seems to change throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 3>So I need productivity tips that actually work for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like everyone's always talking about these amazing

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<v Speaker 4>productivity hacks.

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<v Speaker 3>But honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>balance answering slack messages well actually getting my real work done.

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<v Speaker 4>So today we're saying nope to productivity hacks. We're going simple.

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<v Speaker 4>The vibe is going to be chill. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we need some classical music or something here. By the

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<v Speaker 4>end of this episode, you are going to get the

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<v Speaker 4>one prioritization method that has completely changed Michelle's life and

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<v Speaker 4>how to do it and the single smartest way to

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<v Speaker 4>push back on your manager when they keep piling things

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<v Speaker 4>on your plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, Having a baby just forced me

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<v Speaker 1>to reassess how I approach my working day. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>many people can relate to this, But pre baby, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I could go with the flow. I could

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<v Speaker 1>always pick things up where I left out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I just had more time in my day to

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<v Speaker 1>jump from task to task. But post baby, I've realized

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<v Speaker 1>that the mums, we've got to full time jobs, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we need to ruthlessly prioritize. And that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>hack I'm going to share is all about.

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<v Speaker 4>I follow so many productivity experts. It's kind of part

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<v Speaker 4>of my job to help young people manage their time

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<v Speaker 4>and their energy. I found this interesting thing happened where

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<v Speaker 4>the more productivity hacks I saw, the more overwhelmed I felt,

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<v Speaker 4>and actually the worst I was feeling, it didn't make

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<v Speaker 4>me feel better, it made me feel worse and less productive.

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<v Speaker 4>So the vibe of this episode is actually low effort

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<v Speaker 4>but high impact. So low effort in fact, that we

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<v Speaker 4>only have two points to share.

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<v Speaker 1>No productivity burnout.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, Michelle, I'm so looking forward to hearing your productivity

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<v Speaker 4>method hit us with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm sure we've all heard of Tim Farriss.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an author, an investor, and he has a

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<v Speaker 1>viral book called The Four Hour Workweek, and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stumbled across this method. I actually was gifted a

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<v Speaker 1>productivity planner that I opened one day and had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea it was going to completely change my life. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do recommend looking at this planner as well. If

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<v Speaker 1>this method sounds like it's for you. It's from Intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>Change and it's literally called the Productivity Planner, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gathered a whole bunch of research and kind of spits

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<v Speaker 1>out this new way to approach your day. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really stood out to me was Tim Ferriss's

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<v Speaker 1>method for nailing your to do list. So step one

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<v Speaker 1>of nailing your to do list is actually figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>what the most important thing is. And I think as

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<v Speaker 1>humans we can struggle to achieve this sometimes because we

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<v Speaker 1>get decision paralysis. Apparently psychologically we're not even meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be that good at knowing how to pick the number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. So ask yourself this question and it will

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out for you. So the question is what

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<v Speaker 1>is making me feel most uncomfortable? What have I procrastinated

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<v Speaker 1>on for quite a while. I'm sure we've all got

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to that question, and that's what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start with. That is the most important thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>the follow up question to that is, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what changed my life as a mum, really is if

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<v Speaker 1>this were the only thing I accomplished today, would I

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<v Speaker 1>be satisfied with my day? And will moving this forward

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<v Speaker 1>make all the other to dos seem unimportant?

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<v Speaker 4>Ah? So good? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to be the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 1>just I love ticking it off, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so much more quantity over quality. And then I became

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<v Speaker 1>a mum and realized I just wasn't really getting anything done,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I was stumbling. And this question of

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the only thing I get done today,

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<v Speaker 1>will I feel good? Is such a game changer because

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<v Speaker 1>you just feel so accomplished and most uncomfortable ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being most important and you're actually getting through the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>shit that you'd be procrastinating on. The kind of follow

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<v Speaker 1>up step to this is make sure you're writing it down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, write your to do list and rank it

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<v Speaker 1>based on those questions. But never give yourself more than

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<v Speaker 1>three to five things to get done in a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not going to happen. But you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you just get that one thing done, the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just on to number two and you're still feeling great.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Michelle, can you actually just tell me those steps again?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're going to get a pen and paper and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to answer the question, what is making me

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<v Speaker 1>feel most uncomfortable? What have I procrastinated on for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time? Then you're going to follow up with if

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<v Speaker 1>this were the only thing I accomplished today, would I

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<v Speaker 1>be satisfied with my day? That is your number one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're starting with, and then you might still

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<v Speaker 1>have other things on your list, but you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to commit to any more than three to five for

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<v Speaker 1>a day.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I want to stop recording and just

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<v Speaker 4>go on actually start my day again and use this

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<v Speaker 4>what Ben, Michelle, what do you think changed in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of like the types of tasks that you found you

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<v Speaker 4>used to do and fill your day with to what

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<v Speaker 4>you actually work on now what's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you've got that big thing that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>work on, it can be hard to focus on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So something I do, like a take on this that

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<v Speaker 1>I've added is I almost gamify it. I guess how

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<v Speaker 1>many thirty minute blocks is this going to take me,

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<v Speaker 1>And let's say I pick three, I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take me an hour and a half. I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>racing against my estimate, and it makes completing it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit funner because I'm like, oh, am, I on

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<v Speaker 1>the money here with how long I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take me to achieve this task.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, you're crazy. That part stresses me out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm definitely not doing that. But I think the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I love about this is this is a confession,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I've been really struggling with this lately. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in this season of my life where I've pivoted my

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<v Speaker 4>career from a marketer to now a TikTok creator and

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<v Speaker 4>a coach, and it's completely different. And you know, anyone

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<v Speaker 4>listening you might be able to relate because it's like

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<v Speaker 4>your job is kind of changing often, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I used to be way better at this

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<v Speaker 4>and now I'm really struggling. So I've had days where

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<v Speaker 4>I feel paralyzed by what I'm meant to be doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just get in and start. I'm not procrastinating, like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working really hard. I'm putting in these big blocks

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<v Speaker 4>of time, but at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel frustrated and overwhelmed, and I think it comes from

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not actually making progress on things. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that I'm picking up here is don't just

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<v Speaker 4>open your laptop and start working on things. Don't just

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<v Speaker 4>open your laptop and start checking your emails. It's actually

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<v Speaker 4>really forcing yourself. And this is just my sign and

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<v Speaker 4>me reminding myself, really forcing yourself to spend twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 4>minutes properly prioritizing your day and asking yourself those questions.

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<v Speaker 4>And the one that I think just really hit me,

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<v Speaker 4>e Michelle, is if I do this one thing, will

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<v Speaker 4>I feel satisfied, Because like, that's what's been missing from

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<v Speaker 4>my days and I've been feeling everyone So maybe other

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<v Speaker 4>people can relate to that. I really I want to

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<v Speaker 4>try it. It's not that there's not a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>other good stuff on your to do this. There's that

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<v Speaker 4>really good quote by the habit expert James Clear, who

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people will have heard of, and the

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<v Speaker 4>quote is, the most dangerous things on your to do

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<v Speaker 4>list are the things that are a good use of

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<v Speaker 4>your time, but not a great use of your time.

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<v Speaker 4>There's lots of really good things to do, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually just trying to pick the ones that are going

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<v Speaker 4>to move the needle. So, yeah, this is your sign,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone listening, This is your sign. I love that, Michelle,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, we're going to change your brain chemistry by explaining

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<v Speaker 1>why doing less is actually so hard, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to share a killer script for saying no to your

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<v Speaker 1>manager in a way that means they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>hate you. Okay, So we've shared my favorite productivity tip

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<v Speaker 1>method not a hack now, so if I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear yours, hit us with it.

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<v Speaker 4>So my one thing is very simple, do less, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's actually very hard to do. And I've been obsessed

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<v Speaker 4>with this question for a really long time. Why the

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<v Speaker 4>hell is it actually so hard to do less? And

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<v Speaker 4>why do we keep piling things onto our plate all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. So let's get a little science y because

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<v Speaker 4>I think it actually really helps to understand the why

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<v Speaker 4>behind the behaviors, and that's what actually creates behavior change

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<v Speaker 4>for you. So this is an amazing study I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to share. It's from Professor Leedy Klott from the University

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<v Speaker 4>of Virginia and Heed this pioneering research into why it

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<v Speaker 4>is that we have a tendency to keep adding before

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<v Speaker 4>taking things away. So it's this amazing study. What they

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<v Speaker 4>did is they gave people a ridiculous travel itinery for Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the words that they used was it was

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately designed to be obnoxious. It had fourteen different things

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<v Speaker 4>you could do across a single day. There was only

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<v Speaker 4>a one hour break even just getting around all the

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<v Speaker 4>different things meant there was two hours of travel time.

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<v Speaker 4>And it had this sort of drag and drop menu

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<v Speaker 4>for people so they could rearrange things. And they asked

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<v Speaker 4>participants just this one question, so what would make this

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<v Speaker 4>itinery better? Seventy five percent of people added more shit

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<v Speaker 4>and only twenty five percent of people actually removed things

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<v Speaker 4>from the itinery. So Professor Lady klots I mentioned he

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<v Speaker 4>wrote a book Cloud Subtract, and in that book he

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<v Speaker 4>calls it edition bias, as humans were actually hardwired to

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<v Speaker 4>want to add and keep things, and it is so

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<v Speaker 4>difficult for us to call things. So if you look

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<v Speaker 4>at that, then Michelle in like apply that to a

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<v Speaker 4>work context, right, it makes so much sense. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>adding things, you've got something to show, but subtracting things

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<v Speaker 4>you sort of don't. So imagine you're coming in new

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<v Speaker 4>to a role, you really want to show that you've

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<v Speaker 4>made your mark. It's so easy to be like, look

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<v Speaker 4>at all these new initiatives that I've added, But subtracting

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<v Speaker 4>things actually takes tons of work. It takes like tough

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<v Speaker 4>conversations and negotiating and saying no, but there's not a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to show for it at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>So in my decade plus working at Google, the only

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<v Speaker 4>time that I ever saw teams that were properly smashing

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<v Speaker 4>it and like they were just doing amazing work and

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<v Speaker 4>the whole team was really happy. To the point where

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, what is actually going on with that team,

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<v Speaker 4>Like why are they so good? The only thing that

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<v Speaker 4>was going on is that they were the team that

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<v Speaker 4>was actually able to start properly saying no to things

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<v Speaker 4>and they were just focusing on a few big things.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this so much. And I was gonna ask,

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<v Speaker 1>You've been an exec at Google, and so I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you would have had exposure to epic leadership courses.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this comes down to your manager and

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<v Speaker 1>the best leaders not making their teams feel like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more and more and more is what the business is after,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I feel like as an employee, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>more inclined to want to go to your manager and

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<v Speaker 1>look at all these things I've done. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this needs to be something that you're working out

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<v Speaker 1>as of the relationship in the team. Like we actually

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<v Speaker 1>pride ourselves on focusing on like the top one percent

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever of things that are going to move the

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<v Speaker 1>needle here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, but here's the interesting thing. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people think it's up to my manager to prioritize

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<v Speaker 4>my work for me, and it's actually not. It's everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>responsibility to protect not just their focus, but to protect

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<v Speaker 4>the focus of their whole team by pushing back and

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<v Speaker 4>saying no. So this is sort of the whole point

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<v Speaker 4>of the thing that I'm going to share with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's bring it back to our gen z and millennial

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<v Speaker 4>friends listening today. You're sitting there thinking so how do

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<v Speaker 4>I actually do less? How do I say no? And

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<v Speaker 4>how do I push back? So internalize this. People are

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<v Speaker 4>going to keep piling work on top of you until

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<v Speaker 4>you can't take it anymore. It's not that they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to hurt you. It's just human nature. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it is harder when you're more junior because you've just

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<v Speaker 4>got all this stuff coming down and you're not in

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<v Speaker 4>that position to sort of be pushing back in and

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<v Speaker 4>making big decisions. So learning to protect your focus and

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<v Speaker 4>push back is like top three core skills that you

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<v Speaker 4>need to learn, and it is extremely hard. But come

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<v Speaker 4>with me. I'm going to give you one really simple

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<v Speaker 4>thing that you can start doing today that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>help you. So that is saying no to your manager

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<v Speaker 4>with respect. And here's the secret. You might actually be

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<v Speaker 4>better placed to make decisions about certain things than your

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<v Speaker 4>manager because you are closer to the work. You're the

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<v Speaker 4>person on the tools that you're the person in the details,

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<v Speaker 4>and you actually know how long things take, how much time,

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<v Speaker 4>and how much effort tasks actually take, and your manager

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't always know that. So it's not like they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to overload you with tasks it's just that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have that information. So it's sort of your responsibility and

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<v Speaker 4>it's in your power to push back. But it is

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<v Speaker 4>really difficult. So you know, has this ever happened to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Your manager says this should take about twenty minutes. It

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<v Speaker 4>should be easy, right, and in your head you're thinking

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<v Speaker 4>like that actually takes two to three hours. But then

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<v Speaker 4>out loud you're like, no, worries, I can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>What you want to do instead is you want to

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<v Speaker 4>position it as a trade off. And that's the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like the ideas and tasking your manager is

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<v Speaker 4>giving you are bad. It's just that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of other things in your plate and everything, in a

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<v Speaker 4>way is a trade off. So this script I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to share. It's from a global work expert and entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name is wes Ko. I don't want to give

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<v Speaker 4>her credit. She's brilliant and this is her favorite way

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<v Speaker 4>to say no to a manager. And of course we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to include this in the bus newsletter this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready, michell?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually can't wait for this.

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<v Speaker 4>So imagine your manager has just like throwed another bloody

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<v Speaker 4>idea or task at you, so thanks for the idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I've added it to my list quick heads up. A

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<v Speaker 4>task like this usually takes two to three hours. We

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<v Speaker 4>had talked about prioritizing this other task because it was

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<v Speaker 4>going to help us hit this big goal of block.

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<v Speaker 4>I can refocus on the new task, but we'll probably

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<v Speaker 4>need to make some trade offs, and you drop those in,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, some other things that you're going to delay.

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<v Speaker 4>My recommendation is that I work on the new task

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<v Speaker 4>after the other task is done. Let me know if

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<v Speaker 4>that sounds good or if you're thinking about it differently.

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<v Speaker 4>And that last point is really important because you are

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<v Speaker 4>showing respect to your manager. You know more details about

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<v Speaker 4>the time and effort, but they might be more exposed

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<v Speaker 4>to some of those conversations within your leadership or other

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<v Speaker 4>types of priorities. So if they say, well, actually, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I do see it differently, you do need to respect

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<v Speaker 4>them and it's a conversation. But this is a way

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<v Speaker 4>to do it that's going to make you feel good

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not going to feel like you're saying I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that so much. I feel like that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help so many people. I love this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>protecting your focus wording, and I feel like this will

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<v Speaker 1>protect people who are in the firing line of a

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<v Speaker 1>pile on manager and like actually almost reverse coach that

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<v Speaker 1>manager and then the managers who get this beautiful easy conversations.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, So I love that point. I think if

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<v Speaker 4>you're someone who is, you know, more junior in your career,

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<v Speaker 4>have uput empathy for your manager. They're not trying to

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<v Speaker 4>hurt you. It's just that they often don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>long things take. And then if you're a manager, be

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<v Speaker 4>considerate about what you're throwing your team and also start

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<v Speaker 4>celebrating them for pushing back and saying no to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the spirit of this episode, we've got one

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<v Speaker 1>action point each Mine is to nail your to do list.

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<v Speaker 1>Start every day by asking yourself the question what is

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<v Speaker 1>making me feel most uncomfortable? And will I feel satisfied

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the only thing I get done today?

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<v Speaker 4>And number two, protect your focus and get comfortable having

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<v Speaker 4>no style conversations. Grab the script in the bus newsletter

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<v Speaker 4>this week. So I'm going to leave you with a

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<v Speaker 4>quote from Google's productivity advisor Laura may and Martin saying

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<v Speaker 4>no good things makes room for great things, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots to take out of that. Something that completely changed

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<v Speaker 2>my perspective on task management was I thing that Michelle said.

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<v Speaker 2>She said that the most dangerous items on your to

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<v Speaker 2>do list are the ones that are a good use

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<v Speaker 2>of your time but not a great use of your time.

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<v Speaker 2>I immediately started rewriting my to do list while listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this episode, which, yes, I know sounds ironic, but

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you I'm going to tackle it the minute

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<v Speaker 2>that this episode ends. I'm stealing inspo from that exact quote.

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<v Speaker 2>If you enjoy today's episode of BIZ, we popped everything

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<v Speaker 2>you need in our free newsletter, including those step by

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<v Speaker 2>step guides for both productivity game changes we talked about today.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find a link to that in our show

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<v Speaker 2>notes and heads up. Our Biz Inbox episode drops this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>where we solve all your career dilemmas and until then,

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<v Speaker 2>go forth and do less the better.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye.

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