1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 S1: Tonight's episode is brought to you by Goodradigbee Distillery. Hard 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,600 S1: to pronounce, easy to drink. Find out more@goodradigbee.com. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,520 S2: If you don't know anything about rugby, don't talk. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,400 S3: Regan drove go from Larkham. 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 S4: Australian dream forward. They've got the advantage. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,400 S2: Worst press conference. Well done boys. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Happy: Hi everyone and welcome to the team's pod for the week. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Happy: I'm happy I'm here with Sally. And Carl's back tonight. Uh, 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Happy: the New Zealanders had a win on the weekend, so 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Happy: the two things could be related. Who knows? Who knows? Uh. Evening, Sally. 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,200 Happy: How was your. How was your weekend, buddy? 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,920 Sully: Yeah, yeah. Good, mate. I've watched, uh, the All Blacks, uh, 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,520 Sully: race to save his job. And, um, what's the Wallabies 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Sully: massive come from behind. And I watched the Aussie girls. Um, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Sully: have I thought they had a wonderful game against England. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Sully: So I've had a big rugby weekend. Awesome. Yeah. Had 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Sully: a lot of fun. 18 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:00,740 Happy: What about you, brother? 19 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:04,580 Karl: Yeah, mate. Um. Look, it's it's been rough lately. I mean, 20 00:01:04,580 --> 00:01:06,860 Karl: I didn't do a lot of the line stuff because 21 00:01:06,860 --> 00:01:09,660 Karl: I thought Keith's, um. He had a lot more in 22 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:12,100 Karl: depth knowledge of the of the English players, so I 23 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,300 Karl: thought he offered more. Um, and work has actually been 24 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:19,100 Karl: a little bit rough this year, but, um, last weekend 25 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:23,300 Karl: was good. Um, I, I was, I was in morning 26 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:25,940 Karl: a little bit after that second Argentinian game with the 27 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:27,699 Karl: All Blacks, which has to be one of the worst 28 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:31,100 Karl: all black games I've ever seen. Um, but they came 29 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,699 Karl: back well last week and, and, and I think for me, 30 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:37,460 Karl: the favourite time of my whole weekend was when the 31 00:01:37,459 --> 00:01:41,580 Karl: Springboks did their midfield lineout and got smashed and I 32 00:01:41,580 --> 00:01:46,500 Karl: just laughed. I just laughed, but um. Yeah. Hey, it's 33 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:49,060 Karl: good to be back guys. I'm looking forward to this weekend. 34 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:52,220 Karl: There's so much going on, it's just fantastic. 35 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:55,140 Happy: Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah. 36 00:01:55,180 --> 00:01:57,260 Sully: It really looked like the All Blacks were had thought 37 00:01:57,260 --> 00:01:59,600 Sully: about that and then, uh, then come around and just 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Sully: messed it up. I laughed, I laughed out loud. 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Karl: Yeah, well, they, um, you know, the thing is, and 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Karl: I understand why the All Black while the Springboks do it, 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Karl: if you do it right, it can set up a 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Karl: midfield maul. Where you where you are doing a maul 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Karl: like you would at a five metre line out and 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,920 Karl: you're able to drive forward. But what they forgot was 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Karl: that it's only a maul if everyone else joins, and 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Karl: if they don't join, it's open play. And yeah, they 47 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Karl: they tried to be a little bit too smart. Um, 48 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Karl: Rassie likes to think of himself as the big innovator 49 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,360 Karl: and um. Yeah fell on their face and like like 50 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Karl: you mate. I laughed out loud when I saw it. 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Sully: Mm. 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Happy: Yeah. The interesting next evolution of that could be just 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,520 Happy: use it almost as a dummy play, uh, and play 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Happy: away from it. If everyone honeypots to the. Yeah. 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Karl: You gotta be careful, though with that though, mate, because 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Karl: you could get into obstruction very easily. 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,859 Happy: Oh yeah. But you know, if the guy has lifted, 58 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:03,380 Happy: then does that remember they did that shift double maul. Uh. 59 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:05,780 Karl: Double throw where that one guy and then threw it 60 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:08,300 Karl: to another guy who got in the front. That that 61 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:10,820 Karl: actually I thought was actually a good move. That was 62 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:12,140 Karl: actually clever. Yeah. 63 00:03:12,180 --> 00:03:14,180 Happy: Yeah, that was real clever. But if they do something 64 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:16,460 Happy: like that then play, you know, use that to play 65 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:18,260 Happy: off to the fly half. It could be really interesting 66 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:22,100 Happy: because you, you've immediately broken up the defensive line. So 67 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:24,020 Happy: I don't know there's still more to go with that 68 00:03:24,020 --> 00:03:25,860 Happy: I think. But uh yeah, I think it was good. 69 00:03:25,980 --> 00:03:31,340 Karl: But I also think, I also think that, um, Erasmus 70 00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:34,820 Karl: likes to likes to show the world that he's an innovator. 71 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:35,700 Happy: And. 72 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:38,860 Karl: And and. Yeah. Good on him. Um. Sorry, mate. I 73 00:03:38,860 --> 00:03:41,500 Karl: still don't forgive him for the way he treated gardener. 74 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:44,140 Karl: And the fact that he lied about the video not 75 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:46,740 Karl: meaning to go online. As far as I'm concerned, he 76 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:50,620 Karl: can fall down dead, and I won't. I won't bloody 77 00:03:50,620 --> 00:03:51,380 Karl: miss him at all. 78 00:03:52,060 --> 00:03:58,800 Happy: Yes, yes. Anyway, um, Just before we get into the, uh, review, 79 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,920 Happy: doing a quick review of the two game of the 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,280 Happy: games on the weekend. Uh, everyone, thanks for your support. Uh, 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Happy: download rate, subscribe and review. If we've earned a tick 82 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Happy: or a or a share or any of that sort 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Happy: of stuff, please do. So it'd be great. Uh, I 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Happy: always say get down to your local club or and 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Happy: buy a beer. A bit hard at the moment in 86 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,280 Happy: the Australian off season. Uh, but some of our northern 87 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Happy: hemisphere listeners do that, um, and just get involved. Uh, 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Happy: it's a good time. Uh, so you are. Are you okay? 89 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,960 Happy: Day today. So, uh, you know, feel free to use 90 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,280 Happy: that as a, as a vehicle to check on, check 91 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,160 Happy: on your friends, um, and check on even people who 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Happy: are acquaintances. Um, right. Let's get into, uh, the reviews. Let's, uh, 93 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Happy: let's do the Australian game. What did you think of 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Happy: the Australia v Argentina round one in Townsville? Sally? 95 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:59,580 Sully: Um, I, I was screaming, take the shot at goal! Yeah, 96 00:04:59,580 --> 00:05:01,900 Sully: I screamed at three times, but no, no, I didn't 97 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:04,659 Sully: really scream it. After you've turned down the first one, 98 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:07,140 Sully: you've got to go all in, I think. But, uh, 99 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:09,500 Sully: I thought we should have played for the draw. I'm 100 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:13,500 Sully: glad we didn't. Um, I think, um, playing for that 101 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:18,740 Sully: win has galvanised hopefully galvanised the players. Um, and given 102 00:05:18,740 --> 00:05:22,540 Sully: them some, some bit more self-belief in themselves because that 103 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:26,380 Sully: was a big win I think. And um, yeah, there's, 104 00:05:26,380 --> 00:05:28,900 Sully: there's problems in the team, I know that. And um, 105 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:34,540 Sully: we've lost so many players to injury over the season, but, um. Yeah, uh, 106 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,739 Sully: Tani Tupou didn't do himself any favors in that first 107 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:41,940 Sully: ten minutes. Um, no, I love the game. I had 108 00:05:41,940 --> 00:05:45,700 Sully: a ball. Yeah. Um, I mean, you can nitpick about things, 109 00:05:45,740 --> 00:05:48,219 Sully: things in here and there, but, uh, I love the attitude. 110 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:52,060 Sully: I think, um, Harry Wilson is turning into one of 111 00:05:52,060 --> 00:05:56,350 Sully: our better captains. Um, I think, uh, the look he 112 00:05:56,350 --> 00:05:59,150 Sully: gave Tony when the ref gave him a talking to, uh, 113 00:05:59,150 --> 00:06:02,590 Sully: would have scared the shit out of most people. So, um. Yeah, 114 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:05,510 Sully: I think, uh, a lot, lot to like about this 115 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:08,789 Sully: season for the Wallabies. And I hope it keeps going. Yeah. 116 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:10,150 Happy: Can't you. 117 00:06:10,510 --> 00:06:13,110 Karl: Yeah. Look, it was a great game. It really was. 118 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:17,350 Karl: I think um, watching watching the Wallabies have that belief 119 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:19,790 Karl: in themselves to keep going and then achieve it was 120 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:24,270 Karl: really cool. Um, I did laugh at at, at Hooper 121 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:27,270 Karl: comments going on about it a bit and thought, mate, 122 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:29,750 Karl: you really haven't got a leg to stand on, mate. 123 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:34,870 Karl: Just shut up. Um, but um, I, I think, um, 124 00:06:34,910 --> 00:06:37,950 Karl: I think the Wallabies are starting to develop in a 125 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:40,589 Karl: really good way. And, and when you look at and 126 00:06:40,589 --> 00:06:43,430 Karl: when you look at what Joe and Cron and some 127 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:45,790 Karl: of the others are doing with the team and giving 128 00:06:45,790 --> 00:06:48,750 Karl: them that self-belief and giving them those skills where they 129 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:51,190 Karl: can get going, I think they're heading in the right direction. 130 00:06:51,190 --> 00:06:53,810 Karl: So yeah, it's been it's been really good. And it 131 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,690 Karl: was a it was a great win. Um, this weekend 132 00:06:56,690 --> 00:06:59,490 Karl: will be interesting. You know, the the ARGs would have 133 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:02,050 Karl: been really hurt by that. Um, they've got their number 134 00:07:02,050 --> 00:07:05,210 Karl: ten back. I think I think I read somewhere that 135 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:07,050 Karl: they've bought their number ten back. The one that was 136 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:10,290 Karl: injured against the All Blacks. Um, and he's a very, 137 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:13,810 Karl: very good player. So I actually think this week might 138 00:07:13,810 --> 00:07:16,770 Karl: be a little bit harder, but hey, good to see. 139 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:17,890 Karl: Really good to see. 140 00:07:19,250 --> 00:07:24,450 Sully: Now, uh, I think Carl. No, it's still, uh. Santiago. Carrara. Carrara. 141 00:07:24,490 --> 00:07:26,370 Karl: Oh, it is, is it okay? I thought he I 142 00:07:26,370 --> 00:07:30,530 Karl: thought it I thought I'd read somewhere that he'd come back, but. Okay. Um, 143 00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:32,890 Karl: because he's very, very good. 144 00:07:33,210 --> 00:07:36,250 Sully: Oh, but Carrara is is no slouch either, so. 145 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:37,210 Karl: No, no, exactly. 146 00:07:37,530 --> 00:07:40,170 Sully: Those couple of tries that they smashed us with last week. 147 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:40,930 Karl: Um, yeah. 148 00:07:41,490 --> 00:07:42,610 Sully: They were. They were special. 149 00:07:42,650 --> 00:07:46,250 Karl: They'll be really disappointed that they let that last try 150 00:07:46,250 --> 00:07:49,570 Karl: and that they. And they would feel that I think the, 151 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:53,310 Karl: the Argentinians are sitting there feeling that they let Australia 152 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:55,990 Karl: win and they're going to and they're going to try 153 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:57,910 Karl: and double down this week. So I think yeah, it's 154 00:07:57,910 --> 00:07:59,309 Karl: going to be it's going to be a good game, 155 00:07:59,310 --> 00:07:59,990 Karl: that's for sure. 156 00:08:00,510 --> 00:08:00,950 Happy: Yeah. 157 00:08:00,990 --> 00:08:04,070 Sully: It is hard. Like it is like when when you've 158 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:07,910 Sully: got multiple penalties going against you. It is bloody hard. Yeah. 159 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:11,429 Sully: In that ten metre zone, you know, to keep a 160 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:15,190 Sully: team out unless you get them to do something illegal. Yeah. 161 00:08:15,230 --> 00:08:18,989 Karl: Yeah. So yeah, there was a couple of. Yeah. Interesting. 162 00:08:18,990 --> 00:08:20,670 Karl: There was a couple of posts about it in the 163 00:08:20,670 --> 00:08:23,910 Karl: weekend where people are thinking that the referees are giving 164 00:08:23,910 --> 00:08:28,870 Karl: the attacking team too much leeway on the on that 165 00:08:29,150 --> 00:08:33,110 Karl: in that red zone. Um, I, I'm, I'm a sort 166 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:36,350 Karl: of bit conflicted both ways. I think the laws are 167 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:40,189 Karl: actually really clear. And I and I actually think that 168 00:08:40,190 --> 00:08:44,070 Karl: the referees are right, that the defenders, the defenders are 169 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:46,590 Karl: the ones who are pushing the line more than the attackers, 170 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:50,130 Karl: and they're getting pinged for it. So, you know, be better. 171 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:52,770 Karl: You know, you know. You know what the laws are. 172 00:08:52,809 --> 00:08:53,210 Karl: So be. 173 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:55,690 Sully: Better. Simply a couple of offside calls. 174 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:57,010 Karl: Yeah. Yeah. 175 00:08:57,290 --> 00:09:02,170 Sully: Um. And you can't blame players for trying to sneak. 176 00:09:03,010 --> 00:09:06,970 Sully: I know we're talking inches or or feet or. 177 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:11,290 Happy: Yeah, at that point, you are talking inches. Um, I, 178 00:09:11,330 --> 00:09:15,890 Happy: I was the thing that made. And it was upon reflection, 179 00:09:15,890 --> 00:09:18,130 Happy: because I was shouting at the shouting at the TV 180 00:09:18,130 --> 00:09:22,930 Happy: during the game, but upon, upon I, I go full 181 00:09:23,290 --> 00:09:25,449 Happy: caveman mind when I'm watching the game. I've usually got 182 00:09:25,450 --> 00:09:28,450 Happy: to rewatch it to be a bit calmer about it. But, uh, 183 00:09:28,770 --> 00:09:31,809 Happy: upon reflection, the thing that I thought was really cool 184 00:09:31,809 --> 00:09:35,130 Happy: about the game from an Australian perspective was we we 185 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:37,449 Happy: were hammered early on in terms of penalties. You know, 186 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:39,689 Happy: we were gave up. Its the first game this year. 187 00:09:39,690 --> 00:09:42,370 Happy: We've lost the penalty count. Um, we gave up like 188 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:44,809 Happy: 8 or 10, ten penalties. I think it was in 189 00:09:44,809 --> 00:09:48,330 Happy: the first half, 9 or 10. Um, and then managed 190 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:52,270 Happy: to change that around and alter the way we played. 191 00:09:52,309 --> 00:09:54,710 Happy: Whether that was adjustments at half time or whether you 192 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:58,069 Happy: look at how it was going through the game. Uh, 193 00:09:58,309 --> 00:10:01,030 Happy: so we actually adjusted to the referee and, and in 194 00:10:01,030 --> 00:10:04,110 Happy: the last 15 years, when have you been able to 195 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:06,910 Happy: say that about an Australian team? Normally we would get 196 00:10:06,950 --> 00:10:08,990 Happy: on the wrong side of the ref, stay on the 197 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:11,630 Happy: wrong side of the ref and get penalised off the 198 00:10:11,630 --> 00:10:15,070 Happy: park and bitch about it afterwards, which was fine because 199 00:10:15,070 --> 00:10:18,310 Happy: I was bitching about it during the game. But we 200 00:10:18,429 --> 00:10:20,390 Happy: we're now seem to have been able to get into 201 00:10:20,390 --> 00:10:23,710 Happy: a space where either the referees are giving us a 202 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:28,030 Happy: bit more benefit, or we're actually changing our behaviour in 203 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:32,309 Happy: a way that we're not just giving away silly penalties. Um, 204 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:36,230 Happy: and we're, we're, we're, we're actually getting on terms with 205 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:39,070 Happy: the referee. Whereas in the past that hasn't been the case. 206 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:43,550 Happy: It's been a very combative experience for, for for them. 207 00:10:43,550 --> 00:10:46,230 Happy: And as a result, I think that's hurt us on occasion. 208 00:10:46,429 --> 00:10:49,730 Karl: Um, I actually think that a lot of this comes 209 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:53,970 Karl: down to what Sally mentioned earlier about, um, bloody Harry 210 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:58,569 Karl: Wilson stepping up as the captain. I think that the 211 00:10:58,570 --> 00:11:01,930 Karl: way he manages the team as a captain, compared to 212 00:11:01,929 --> 00:11:05,490 Karl: the way Hooper and other people managed in the past, 213 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:09,330 Karl: is actually bringing that clarity and that working with the 214 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:12,370 Karl: referee to get the guys back onside. And I think 215 00:11:12,650 --> 00:11:15,050 Karl: and I think that's probably been one of the best 216 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:19,130 Karl: things that, um, Joe's brought to the team is actually 217 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:22,050 Karl: getting them to actually come down that pathway. 218 00:11:22,650 --> 00:11:27,090 Happy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think they ended up losing 219 00:11:27,090 --> 00:11:30,479 Happy: the penalty count like 1210, but they gave up 9 220 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,770 Happy: or 10 penalties in the first half. So they were 221 00:11:32,770 --> 00:11:36,250 Happy: pretty clean on the in the second half. So that 222 00:11:36,250 --> 00:11:41,170 Happy: kind of in-game adjustments really cool. Uh the two Argentinian 223 00:11:41,170 --> 00:11:44,770 Happy: first phase tries there. Honestly why you watch rugby? That 224 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:46,710 Happy: sort of beautiful Awful execution. 225 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:48,949 Karl: It was, wasn't it? It was just beautiful. It was. 226 00:11:48,950 --> 00:11:53,110 Karl: It was a absolutely beautiful. Um. Yeah. Beautiful. Try. 227 00:11:53,429 --> 00:11:56,590 Happy: Yeah, yeah. The, um. I was talking to someone who 228 00:11:56,590 --> 00:12:00,030 Happy: said he thought the Argentinians may have, uh, targeted Tom 229 00:12:00,030 --> 00:12:02,630 Happy: liner a bit in defence, because when they went down 230 00:12:02,630 --> 00:12:05,350 Happy: the short side, it was directly at liner. And when 231 00:12:05,390 --> 00:12:08,510 Happy: they the next one, they they Australians had moved line 232 00:12:08,510 --> 00:12:10,470 Happy: at the other side and they went down that side 233 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:14,030 Happy: directly at him. So maybe they thought he might have been. 234 00:12:14,309 --> 00:12:16,589 Happy: I don't know, I'm just saying that maybe they thought 235 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:19,390 Happy: he I would, may have been, he may have had 236 00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:22,550 Happy: an um, he may have been short of a run 237 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:24,230 Happy: or short of a read or something like that. 238 00:12:24,270 --> 00:12:26,950 S8: I don't know. I don't don't get me wrong. I, I. 239 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:31,830 Karl: I actually think they're probably 100% correct. If I was 240 00:12:31,830 --> 00:12:35,270 Karl: coaching a team and I was going to say, hey, guys, 241 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:37,990 Karl: the smallest guy on the paddock, I want you to 242 00:12:38,030 --> 00:12:39,390 Karl: charge him with the ball. 243 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:40,150 Happy: Mm. 244 00:12:40,190 --> 00:12:42,750 Karl: And if their forwards aren't looking after him. So you 245 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:44,750 Karl: hurt him. That's on the forwards. 246 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:49,330 Happy: No, I'm saying I'm saying in both of those first 247 00:12:49,330 --> 00:12:52,250 Happy: phase trials, that's where they went. Yeah. Chuck Burrows, when 248 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:55,410 Happy: he ran that line that was directly at line art. 249 00:12:55,410 --> 00:12:59,290 Happy: And then when the second one, um, where they went 250 00:12:59,290 --> 00:13:02,930 Happy: open liner had moved to the other side. Yeah. And 251 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:05,730 Happy: that was just a question of whether they whether they'd 252 00:13:05,730 --> 00:13:09,650 Happy: identified something in his play or identified something in the 253 00:13:09,650 --> 00:13:12,770 Happy: Australians play to that. I just think that that underlined 254 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:16,050 Happy: that Kookaburras run was just you just got to stand 255 00:13:16,050 --> 00:13:18,170 Happy: back and you know. Well played sir. You know. 256 00:13:18,370 --> 00:13:21,250 Karl: Absolutely. Yeah. No it was very good play. 257 00:13:21,490 --> 00:13:24,929 Happy: Yeah. Cracking run. Um and that's what you that's what 258 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:29,090 Happy: you love about it. Yep. Um, what did you think of, uh, 259 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:30,970 Happy: we'll go to the the hometown boy. What did you 260 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:32,370 Happy: think of the New Zealand game? 261 00:13:33,330 --> 00:13:33,770 S8: Um. 262 00:13:34,610 --> 00:13:38,929 Karl: I think, um, I obviously I was happy winning. Beating, beating. 263 00:13:39,210 --> 00:13:44,790 Karl: South Africa's always good. Um, I was, I was pretty 264 00:13:44,830 --> 00:13:47,990 Karl: happy with the way they played, actually. And and the 265 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:51,270 Karl: injury that happened to narrow it early and then they 266 00:13:51,270 --> 00:13:54,030 Karl: brought on Dmac. But what I liked about it was 267 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:58,310 Karl: Dmac stuck to his 15 role and let Bowden Barrett 268 00:13:58,309 --> 00:14:00,829 Karl: play at ten, and he didn't try and do that 269 00:14:00,830 --> 00:14:03,750 Karl: dual playmaker role, which he does so often, which I 270 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:06,470 Karl: actually don't think he's very good at anyway. Um, I 271 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:08,910 Karl: think he's a really good 15 because I think at 272 00:14:08,910 --> 00:14:12,350 Karl: 15 he can see the space developing and then he 273 00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:14,709 Karl: can play to that. But I think when he's jumps 274 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:17,950 Karl: into that playmaker role at ten, I actually think he 275 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:24,150 Karl: struggles to to get there. Um, I think with by 276 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:27,150 Karl: going back to lock where he's a he's a much 277 00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:29,710 Karl: better lock. He's not a six. He's too slow. Um, 278 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:32,790 Karl: I think the All Blacks are heading on the right path. Um, 279 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:35,150 Karl: to be honest, I, I'm, I'm pretty happy with the 280 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:38,270 Karl: way my, my biggest bitch with the All Blacks at 281 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:41,310 Karl: the moment is that I think they still need to 282 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:47,730 Karl: develop a ten teen because Beauden Barrett um d-mac. And 283 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:51,490 Karl: if they bring Richie Mo'unga back, which they're talking about, um, 284 00:14:52,130 --> 00:14:53,610 Karl: they're not the people who are going to take the 285 00:14:53,610 --> 00:14:57,130 Karl: All Blacks forward. So they need to develop a new ten. Um, 286 00:14:57,170 --> 00:15:00,130 Karl: and I and I hope I see loves on the, um, 287 00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:02,730 Karl: on the bench this week. I know they see him 288 00:15:02,730 --> 00:15:04,850 Karl: as a 15, but I'd really love to see him 289 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:07,210 Karl: get a game at ten. But yeah, no, I'm pretty happy. 290 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:09,250 Karl: I think the All Blacks played quite well. I was 291 00:15:09,530 --> 00:15:11,370 Karl: pretty happy with it actually, to be honest. 292 00:15:11,890 --> 00:15:15,970 Happy: Mm. Very good. Mm. Sally your thoughts? 293 00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:20,450 Sully: Yeah. I was happy with the game. I enjoyed it 294 00:15:20,450 --> 00:15:25,850 Sully: a lot. Um, I think um, the, the big names 295 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:29,570 Sully: for the, for the Springboks don't seem to be stepping 296 00:15:29,570 --> 00:15:32,210 Sully: up like they used to, like Malcolm Marx, Steph Totoy, 297 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:36,650 Sully: Siya Kolisi. Their involvements don't seem to be what they 298 00:15:36,650 --> 00:15:37,330 Sully: used to be. 299 00:15:38,010 --> 00:15:42,070 Karl: Their old mate I. And look I think that's one 300 00:15:42,070 --> 00:15:44,390 Karl: of the problems the Springboks have got at the moment. 301 00:15:44,390 --> 00:15:47,750 Karl: They um you know, they've got they've got a lot 302 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:49,750 Karl: of very good players who have been very good for 303 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:53,430 Karl: a long time. But um, and I think when you 304 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:57,550 Karl: look at the changes resumed for this weekend, um, I 305 00:15:57,550 --> 00:15:59,870 Karl: don't think he minds too much about the win or 306 00:15:59,870 --> 00:16:01,750 Karl: the loss, because I think he thinks that he's got 307 00:16:01,750 --> 00:16:04,350 Karl: enough credibility in the bank that even if he loses 308 00:16:04,350 --> 00:16:07,550 Karl: this weekend, he can keep moving forward. And he's sort 309 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:10,310 Karl: of sitting there and saying, you know, if we win rugby, 310 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:12,230 Karl: the next Rugby World Cup, no one's going to give 311 00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:14,870 Karl: a shit that we lost to New Zealand and Wellington. 312 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:18,950 Karl: And he's quite right. They won't. So, um, I think 313 00:16:18,950 --> 00:16:22,630 Karl: he's absolutely looking to the future. And he's saying I 314 00:16:22,630 --> 00:16:24,870 Karl: need to bring in players that I can develop for 315 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:28,150 Karl: the next Rugby World Cup and good on him. Yeah. 316 00:16:28,990 --> 00:16:32,750 Happy: Yeah. I mean, I only saw the highlights of the game. Uh, 317 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:36,150 Happy: but from my perspective, I looked at it and what I, 318 00:16:36,190 --> 00:16:37,990 Happy: I had a bit of a look at the stats 319 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:41,960 Happy: and uh, the, You know, seemed to be a pretty 320 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,480 Happy: slow old affair. Uh, 0 to 3 three. Second ruck 321 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Happy: speed was for both teams was under 45%. And um, 322 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Happy: the other thing I did notice that, uh, I think 323 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Happy: will make you a bit happier is they had 13 324 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Happy: entries to five against New Zealand. And, uh, on that basis, 325 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,400 Happy: they just didn't execute it potentially as well as they 326 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,040 Happy: could have. So that's you know, again you lose by 327 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Happy: seven points. It's not it's always just going to be 328 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Happy: a couple of little bits and bobs around the place. 329 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Happy: And you know they'll they'll I think they'll look at 330 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Happy: it as something they can address. 331 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Sully: I don't think entries is, is is a, a thing that, 332 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Sully: that the Kiwi teams really care about. 333 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Karl: No, I think I think the Kiwis are happy to 334 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Karl: say yeah cool. Come into our 22 we can defend that. 335 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Karl: We'll wait for your mistake and then we'll take it back. 336 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,600 Happy: Yeah yeah yeah. But the from that perspective, teams that 337 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,060 Happy: have had success about about them have been teams that 338 00:17:42,060 --> 00:17:43,980 Happy: like the Irish a few years ago where they've been 339 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:48,100 Happy: able to, uh, you know, create through short passing in 340 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:51,260 Happy: gain line over that. So it's, um, it's a double 341 00:17:51,260 --> 00:17:55,900 Happy: edged sword. But if someone's coming into your 22, 13 times, uh, generally, 342 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:59,619 Happy: that's not a good sign. You're under a lot of pressure. So, um. 343 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:03,179 Karl: If they're only scoring once or twice out of that 344 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:04,580 Karl: 13 times, who cares? 345 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:07,899 Happy: Oh, yeah, I don't disagree. I don't disagree with that 346 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:10,220 Happy: at all. But, uh, I just look at it as a, 347 00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:13,740 Happy: there's a few there's a few elements in there that, uh, 348 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:17,180 Happy: I think, you know, you would look at and go, yeah, 349 00:18:17,180 --> 00:18:21,580 Happy: I think that's that's going to be fine. Um, it did, uh, 350 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:25,300 Happy: you know, I can't really comment too much about, you know, 351 00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:27,420 Happy: any of the rest of it because I don't think 352 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:30,179 Happy: you get the full spread of the game, watching the 353 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:33,500 Happy: watching the highlight, even the 25 minute highlights, you know. 354 00:18:33,619 --> 00:18:36,140 Karl: No, no, you gotta you gotta watch the game a, 355 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:37,220 Karl: you know. Yeah I. 356 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:39,720 Happy: I particularly a test match. A test match you've got 357 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,399 Happy: to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 358 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Karl: It was interesting actually, I, I, um, I, I was 359 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,639 Karl: out with my wife, so I missed the, um, missed 360 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Karl: the Wallabies game and I, and I came back and 361 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Karl: I watched the 23 minute highlight or whatever that night 362 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Karl: and thought, yeah, that's pretty cool. But then on the 363 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,280 Karl: Sunday I sat down and watched the whole test and 364 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Karl: I actually got a different perspective watching the whole test. 365 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Karl: So I'm with you, mate. What's the whole test? But 366 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Karl: if you want to, if you want to see what 367 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,720 Karl: actually happened in the game, watch the whole test. 368 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,479 Happy: Yeah, I think I think. 369 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Sully: From what. 370 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Happy: Domestic. 371 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Sully: Test? I, I never thought that the All Blacks wouldn't win. 372 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,399 Happy: Yeah. 373 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,200 Sully: Yeah. 374 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,480 Happy: So yeah I mean the, the, the try that was it. 375 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,199 Happy: Jordan scored off the lineout. Um you know that's just 376 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Happy: classic all Black play of identifying a weakness within within 377 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:38,179 Happy: the um within the uh opposition. Yeah. Yeah. And working 378 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,659 Happy: to it. I thought, uh, that's actually one of the 379 00:19:40,660 --> 00:19:43,380 Happy: things the Australians did in the second half in the 380 00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:46,940 Happy: Argentinian game when they went very, very narrow, like almost 381 00:19:46,940 --> 00:19:50,740 Happy: pick and drive they because they identified that the let's 382 00:19:50,740 --> 00:19:55,540 Happy: call him the sea defender, uh, for, for uh, the 383 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:58,139 Happy: All Blacks was shooting up really super. He was the 384 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:02,860 Happy: shooting defender. So they almost played inside him which caused that, 385 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:05,420 Happy: which gave them that front foot ball which generated the 386 00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:08,140 Happy: offside play. So. Yeah. 387 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:08,940 Sully: Yeah. 388 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:13,899 Happy: Mm. Um, what about the Wallaroos game? What did you 389 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:15,820 Happy: think of that that boys. Sally. 390 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:20,979 Sully: Uh, I, I, I was really impressed, um, with the 391 00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:23,940 Sully: attitude of, of the Wallaroos. I, I think they came 392 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:28,940 Sully: out and they said the, the most, the best thing 393 00:20:28,940 --> 00:20:33,940 Sully: we can do to guarantee ourselves a quarter final is win. 394 00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:37,480 Sully: And they I did their damnedest to play like that. 395 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Sully: Like it wasn't even a thought of trying to defend 396 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Sully: 70 something points, that they had to stop the English 397 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Sully: from scoring. It was, let's just let's just give it 398 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,600 Sully: to these guys and and try and win this. And, um, 399 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,920 Sully: obviously it didn't come off because it ended up being 47, 400 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Sully: 40 or something like that. But, um, no, I was 401 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Sully: really impressed, uh, with their first 25 minutes. Um, I 402 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,159 Sully: thought they did well. And all they need to do 403 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Sully: is keep that 25 minutes. I know they. 404 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Karl: Need to make it longer. 405 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,320 Sully: Don't they need to make it longer? 406 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,119 Karl: Yeah. We when you look at, um, when they played 407 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,159 Karl: the the Black Ferns earlier in the year, half time. Great. 408 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,679 Karl: They were looking really good. It was only in the 409 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,840 Karl: second time, second half that it blew out. Um, I 410 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,919 Karl: think that Joe Yap has got the girls going really well. She, 411 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Karl: she's developed them. She's she's increased their skill level. She's 412 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,340 Karl: developed that intensity. Um, um, and for me, for the Wallaroos. 413 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:39,220 Karl: This is this is just the Rugby World Cup. A 414 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:42,140 Karl: little bit early for them. Yeah. So. So what what 415 00:21:42,140 --> 00:21:45,020 Karl: Rugby Australia needs to do now is they need to 416 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:47,660 Karl: take that development that's happened over the last 2 or 417 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:50,500 Karl: 3 years and keep it going, so that in four 418 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:53,700 Karl: years time when they host the Rugby World Cup over 419 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:57,780 Karl: here and they've continued to develop, the girls will be 420 00:21:57,780 --> 00:22:00,659 Karl: able to take that intensity for longer and they'll be 421 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:03,540 Karl: able to hold off longer and they'll be absolutely a 422 00:22:03,540 --> 00:22:07,300 Karl: real threat. I think they're playing exceptionally well. I think 423 00:22:07,340 --> 00:22:09,460 Karl: that the problem at the moment is they just lack 424 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:13,260 Karl: the experience, and there's those little moments that happen when 425 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:17,420 Karl: they get tired that their lack of experience is coming 426 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:20,380 Karl: in and they're making those mistakes that they wouldn't make 427 00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:24,699 Karl: if they were more experienced. And if Rugby Australia keeps 428 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:28,140 Karl: their development going, that's been going for the last two years. 429 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:31,620 Karl: I think that the Wallaroos are going to be absolutely 430 00:22:31,619 --> 00:22:34,600 Karl: awesome at the next Rugby World Cup. I mean, getting 431 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Karl: to the quarter finals in this cup has been fantastic. 432 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Karl: You know, seven, eight months ago when we were watching 433 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480 Karl: some of the games and people were saying, oh, they're 434 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Karl: just going there to make the numbers up. You know, 435 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Karl: they're not going to do any good. They're just making 436 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Karl: the numbers. It's not worth following. And now they're in 437 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,680 Karl: the quarter finals. That's bloody awesome. 438 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Sully: Yeah. 439 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Happy: Correct. 440 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,919 Sully: Yeah. The growth the growth in both our national teams 441 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Sully: is like, you can you can just I mean, it's 442 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,240 Sully: I don't know how to measure it, but you can 443 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Sully: see it. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's wonderful to watch. 444 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,040 Happy: Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. No. And look I, I 445 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,600 Happy: think they'll probably get done by the Canadians in the quarterfinals. 446 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,400 Happy: And I think that still represents a passmark for them 447 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Happy: because the other teams are good. 448 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Karl: Here's my prediction, mate. The Wallaroos are going to be 449 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Karl: leading at half time. 450 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Happy: There you go. Well let's hope you're right. 451 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,480 Karl: The Wallaroos are going to be leading at half time. 452 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,500 Karl: But I don't think they're going to be able to 453 00:23:32,540 --> 00:23:35,100 Karl: keep the intensity up and Canada will come back. That's 454 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,460 Karl: my prediction and I think they've got it in them 455 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:38,899 Karl: absolutely to do that. 456 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,580 Happy: Oh yeah. Absolutely. They have had. 457 00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:44,379 Sully: They do have trouble with Canada and Canada. I'm not 458 00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:46,140 Sully: saying that Canada's not a good side and it's just 459 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:49,859 Sully: something from outside. They are a really good side. Canada. Yeah, 460 00:23:49,859 --> 00:23:52,620 Sully: but I'm not sure that we're there yet that we 461 00:23:52,619 --> 00:23:53,460 Sully: can take them. 462 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:56,859 Karl: No I agree. I as I said, we're two, you know, 463 00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:59,820 Karl: 2 or 3 years away. Um, but but that's the 464 00:23:59,820 --> 00:24:03,540 Karl: experience and the, you know, the, the the way it's gone. 465 00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:07,140 Karl: And let's hope, let's hope Rugby Australia, you know, women's 466 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:11,420 Karl: sport is the fastest growing sport in any sport in 467 00:24:11,420 --> 00:24:14,340 Karl: the world at the moment. Let's get on board team. 468 00:24:14,380 --> 00:24:16,260 Karl: Let's just get on board with us. 469 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:23,300 Happy: Agree? Agree 100%. Um, okay, boys, I think that's enough. 470 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:26,580 Happy: Looking backwards. Let's let's look forwards. 471 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:27,540 Karl: Yes. 472 00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:33,880 Happy: This weekend. Oh. Um, well, we used to play Argentina, uh, 473 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Happy: sold out Allianz. Except for two seats. Because you're not going, mate. No. 474 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,120 Karl: I I've someone came came up to me and they've 475 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,120 Karl: got the ticket so. 476 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,920 Happy: Oh very good. 477 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Karl: It's going to be sold out. 478 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Happy: You haven't, you haven't lost. Lost, haven't let the team down. 479 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,359 Karl: No, no, not at all. 480 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,679 Happy: Yes. Would it be almost worth going to Sydney? Uh, Sally, 481 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,400 Happy: what do you reckon? 482 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Sully: Yeah, as long as it's just a quick trip. In 483 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,399 Sully: and out. 484 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,359 Happy: Yeah. 485 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,040 Sully: Yeah. 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Karl: Don't be so racist, man. You bloody Queensland racist. You're racist. 487 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000 Happy: We're not. We're not racist, mate. We're just superior. 488 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,520 Sully: We're just. We're just two guys from the middle of 489 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Sully: nowhere who can't handle the number of people there. That's it. 490 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,360 Happy: That's it. Just a couple of boys from the country. Um. Okay. Australian. 491 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Karl: If you do ever come down to Sydney, just go 492 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Karl: to the nearest budding, grab a cup of cement and 493 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Karl: harden the fuck up, okay? 494 00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:31,899 Sully: I don't even want to drive there, to tell you 495 00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:32,260 Sully: the truth. 496 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:34,980 Karl: Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't. I don't drive 497 00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:37,860 Karl: in Sydney unless I have to. I use public transport. 498 00:25:37,859 --> 00:25:40,300 Karl: The only time I drive in Sydney is when. When 499 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:42,859 Karl: I'm refereeing and I'm driving to a rugby match because 500 00:25:42,859 --> 00:25:46,100 Karl: there's no public transport anywhere near a rugby ground. Other 501 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,980 Karl: than that, if, if, if I don't have to, there's 502 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:53,820 Karl: absolutely no way I drive because Sydney traffic is really. 503 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:56,140 Happy: You can't you can't drive in the eastern suburbs of 504 00:25:56,140 --> 00:26:02,620 Happy: Sydney so. Well you can where the rugby's playing. Um, okay. 505 00:26:02,619 --> 00:26:06,740 Happy: Australian teams players. And Tina is, uh, loosehead. James Slipper, 506 00:26:06,740 --> 00:26:10,180 Happy: Billy Pollard and Taniela Tupou make up the front row. Uh, 507 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:13,939 Happy: Jeremy Williams and Tom Hooper in for, uh, in the 508 00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:17,379 Happy: second row with Nick Frost getting a well-earned rest. I 509 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:21,619 Happy: think he's played. He only missed 15 minutes of the 510 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:27,420 Happy: championship so far. Uh, Valentini, Fraser Mcreight and Harry Wilson 511 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:29,960 Happy: make up the balance of the front. The balance of 512 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:36,520 Happy: the pack. Uh, at the back. Three. Nick whites at nine. Uh, 513 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,680 Happy: tainted bad starts his second test at, uh, or third. 514 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,760 Happy: Test at, uh, flyhalf. Uh, quite a rise for him, 515 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Happy: considering he couldn't get a gig at the Tigers this year. Uh, 516 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Happy: on the wings, uh, Corey Toole and Max Jorgensen. Hunter 517 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Happy: Paisami gives Len Ikitau a rest at 12, Joseph Suaalii 518 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,959 Happy: is at 13 and Andrew Kellaway is at 15. Uh, 519 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Happy: the bench is made up of Josh Nasser, Angus Bell, 520 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,639 Happy: Zain Lukhan Salakaia-loto, Carlo Tizzano, Tate McDermott, James O'Connor and 521 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Happy: Filipo Daugunu. Uh, for the Argentinians, uh dropped out the 522 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,440 Happy: uh loosehead prop, but we've got Julian Montoya who is 523 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,890 Happy: just so good at uh hooker, uh, Joe Slavi at tighthead. 524 00:27:27,930 --> 00:27:35,730 Happy: Guido Petti. Uh, Pedro Rubio. Juan Gonzalez. Marcos Kremer and 525 00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:41,689 Happy: Joaquin Oviedo, uh, make up the pack. And, uh, Gonzalo 526 00:27:41,730 --> 00:27:48,050 Happy: Garcia at, uh nine. Santiago Carreras at ten, Mateo Carreras 527 00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:52,610 Happy: at 11. Santiago Chocobares. And he is some player at 12, 528 00:27:52,850 --> 00:28:00,410 Happy: Lucio Cinti at 13, uh, Rodrigo is at 14 and 529 00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:05,770 Happy: Juan Cruz Mallia at fullback. The bench is made up 530 00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:09,690 Happy: of Roos Ignacio, who's just there to hold up, stop 531 00:28:09,690 --> 00:28:13,770 Happy: the bench from getting away. I'd suggest with Montoya starting, uh, 532 00:28:14,369 --> 00:28:20,450 Happy: Boris Wenger, Correa makita. Uh, Franco Molina, Pablo Matera drops 533 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:26,990 Happy: to the bench. Uh, Agustin Moyano, Fiat Picardo and Ignacio 534 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:31,510 Happy: Mendy make up the 23. What do you think, Carl? 535 00:28:31,869 --> 00:28:33,189 Happy: It was a close game last week. 536 00:28:33,790 --> 00:28:35,310 Karl: Um, yeah, I think. 537 00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:36,790 Happy: What do you think of the teams first? 538 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:42,750 Karl: Um. Yeah. Interesting teams. Um, I think, um, when I look, 539 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:46,350 Karl: it's good to see slipper back. And hopefully he can, um, 540 00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:50,910 Karl: he can stand up. Um, hopefully. Tupo got his lesson 541 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:54,510 Karl: from the, uh, from the Harry Wilson glare and doesn't 542 00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:56,630 Karl: act like a dickhead this week at the start, so 543 00:28:56,630 --> 00:29:00,670 Karl: that'll be nice. The centres are interesting, I think. Um, 544 00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:07,390 Karl: I think you could tell is is 60 to 70% 545 00:29:07,390 --> 00:29:11,150 Karl: of why Sewell has looked good. And it'll be interesting 546 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:14,910 Karl: to see how Hunter Paisami takes that role and how 547 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:19,230 Karl: those two click together. Um, which which will be which 548 00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:22,830 Karl: will be quite cool. Um, I like Andrew Kellaway as 549 00:29:22,830 --> 00:29:26,330 Karl: a 15. I think he's one of the cleverest, um, 550 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:29,810 Karl: rugby players we actually have in Australia. He. He understands 551 00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:33,850 Karl: rugby and he, he makes really, really good decisions. Um, 552 00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:37,810 Karl: great to see L.s.l back in the game. And hopefully 553 00:29:37,810 --> 00:29:40,130 Karl: he gets a good run and good to see Digunai back, 554 00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:44,690 Karl: which is really cool. Um, Argentina. Really interesting that Matera 555 00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:48,890 Karl: is on the, on the bench. Um, I thought he 556 00:29:48,890 --> 00:29:53,850 Karl: was outstanding last week and, and I think that he 557 00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:56,850 Karl: was a lot of the reason that the Australian, the 558 00:29:56,850 --> 00:30:00,850 Karl: Australian forwards struggled a bit. So it'll be interesting how 559 00:30:00,850 --> 00:30:02,489 Karl: they go with him on the bench and when he 560 00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:06,330 Karl: comes on what impact he makes. Um, look, don't get 561 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,330 Karl: me wrong, Australia can win this. If they get their 562 00:30:09,330 --> 00:30:13,130 Karl: crap together, they can win this. But I think the 563 00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:19,530 Karl: Argentinians almost need this. And whether they're going to step 564 00:30:19,530 --> 00:30:21,770 Karl: up that extra gear and take it is going to 565 00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:26,310 Karl: be interesting. Um, to me, both teams can win this, 566 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:28,110 Karl: and it's going to come down to the bounce of 567 00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:30,670 Karl: the ball and a couple of decisions under pressure that'll 568 00:30:30,670 --> 00:30:31,550 Karl: make the difference. 569 00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:36,470 Happy: Yeah. If you look at the I think dropping material 570 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:38,150 Happy: to the bench is maybe to give them a little 571 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:40,110 Happy: bit more experience than starts at the back end of 572 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:43,430 Happy: the game. Uh, looking at their bench, if you take 573 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:46,150 Happy: out material, they've got 31 caps of experience on the 574 00:30:46,150 --> 00:30:51,790 Happy: bench and he's got 115. Yep. So maybe that's the 575 00:30:51,790 --> 00:30:54,670 Happy: thinking of the reason we didn't we it got away 576 00:30:54,670 --> 00:30:57,190 Happy: from us last week because we just didn't have somebody 577 00:30:57,190 --> 00:31:01,350 Happy: who was a yeah a solid, solid solid player. 578 00:31:01,390 --> 00:31:03,910 Karl: But the the problem with that is though, if Australia 579 00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:06,110 Karl: get too big of a lead then that won't matter. 580 00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:07,310 Happy: Oh yeah. 581 00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:10,310 Karl: Look there was a there was a comment. There was 582 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:12,230 Karl: a comment I was reading on the rule the other 583 00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:16,110 Karl: day where someone was saying that, you know, the, the, um, 584 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:19,550 Karl: the last quarter of the game is more important than 585 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:22,250 Karl: the first quarter. And I said, well, not really. If 586 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:24,490 Karl: you score 30 points in the first quarter, the last 587 00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:27,650 Karl: quarter doesn't matter at all. So, you know, I don't 588 00:31:27,650 --> 00:31:30,130 Karl: think that any part of the game is more important 589 00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:32,690 Karl: than any other part of the game. Um, but yeah, 590 00:31:32,690 --> 00:31:35,810 Karl: you're right. Bringing bringing Pablo Matera on at the end 591 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:38,729 Karl: and having that experience, which they didn't have last week, 592 00:31:39,010 --> 00:31:40,570 Karl: it it might make a difference. 593 00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:44,610 Happy: Yeah. Well if they'd have put Oviedo Oviedo on the 594 00:31:44,610 --> 00:31:47,890 Happy: bench and started material eight again, they would have had 595 00:31:47,890 --> 00:31:51,770 Happy: a grand total of like 35, 40 caps on the bench. Yeah. 596 00:31:52,250 --> 00:31:54,370 Karl: And and that's a fair call. Yeah, absolutely. 597 00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:57,050 Happy: It is. It is an important component. It's part of why, 598 00:31:57,410 --> 00:32:00,610 Happy: you know, James O'Connor as a replacement. Ten is such 599 00:32:00,610 --> 00:32:03,130 Happy: a good, good option for Australia at the moment because 600 00:32:03,170 --> 00:32:07,490 Happy: he's he's certainly got the analytical component of his game down. 601 00:32:07,810 --> 00:32:10,330 Happy: Um what do you think Karl. 602 00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:12,210 Sully: No. Me. 603 00:32:12,850 --> 00:32:14,370 Happy: Yeah I'm sorry Sally. 604 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:18,370 Sully: Um, yeah. I'm I'm I'm pretty happy with the side. I, 605 00:32:18,810 --> 00:32:23,550 Sully: I realize that people like, um, Frost and Cattell need 606 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:27,510 Sully: to be rested at some stage, but I just, I 607 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:29,550 Sully: just want them to play every game. I think Frost 608 00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:32,910 Sully: is is is amazing having a fantastic season. He could 609 00:32:32,910 --> 00:32:37,590 Sully: tell my God he's been good. And you know, I 610 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:43,710 Sully: think but I think maybe possibly might have spent more 611 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:48,550 Sully: time with Edmund. Um, in, in the uh, the other team. 612 00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:52,510 Sully: So maybe Hunter's there to to be a familiar face 613 00:32:52,910 --> 00:33:03,230 Sully: for Tun Tun. I wouldn't say tun. His nickname. Tain Edmund. Um, um, but, um, I, 614 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:08,150 Sully: I like I really like how, um, Joe Schmidt is 615 00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:14,190 Sully: willing to give the young flyhalves a go starting games. Uh, 616 00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:17,670 Sully: we've got, uh, James O'Connor there to to guide them 617 00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:19,650 Sully: and talk to them at half time and stuff like that. 618 00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:23,850 Sully: But to me, uh, two years away from a World Cup, 619 00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:26,250 Sully: we've got to put minutes on the field into these 620 00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:30,570 Sully: young fly halves. And I know that Tom Edmund wouldn't 621 00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:36,210 Sully: have been there if Felicio and, um, Donaldson and Liner 622 00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:41,170 Sully: weren't all injured, but just to to say, okay, you're 623 00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:44,410 Sully: the guy you're playing this week and to put him 624 00:33:44,410 --> 00:33:48,250 Sully: in there, I think that's. Yeah. That's great. Um, and 625 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:54,530 Sully: and I wish, um, we'd done it, you know, when, when, when, uh, 626 00:33:54,570 --> 00:33:57,530 Sully: Quade Cooper or or or one of those guys hadn't 627 00:33:57,530 --> 00:34:00,090 Sully: got into their 30s and we were we lost a 628 00:34:00,090 --> 00:34:02,850 Sully: whole generation of fly halves in Australia, sticking with the 629 00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:04,370 Sully: same guys week in, week out. 630 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:07,890 Happy: So yeah. And look, yeah, I 100% agree with you. 631 00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:09,930 Happy: And I think, you know, if you objectively, if you 632 00:34:09,930 --> 00:34:14,250 Happy: look at it two, two years away, uh, O'Connor will 633 00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:16,729 Happy: be 37. He's not going to be your starting fly 634 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:19,430 Happy: half in two years. He's not the answer. Uh, he 635 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:22,190 Happy: might be the, you know, he might be able to 636 00:34:22,390 --> 00:34:24,950 Happy: handle 20 minutes off the bench, which would be really cool. 637 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:27,430 Happy: But he's not going to be the answer in two 638 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:28,270 Happy: years time, is he? 639 00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:29,110 Sully: No. 640 00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:31,710 Happy: As much. As much as I hate. Yeah. 641 00:34:31,989 --> 00:34:34,830 Sully: His attitude when he comes on the field, like he's calm, 642 00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:38,629 Sully: he's laughing, he's having a joke. And it just it 643 00:34:38,630 --> 00:34:42,549 Sully: just brings everyone, like, calms everyone down. And it's a 644 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:51,190 Sully: great attitude. Uh, yeah. Like Carl, I love seeing, uh, lukhan. Salakaia-loto, uh, back. Um, 645 00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:59,150 Sully: I've been I've been happy with Dane, uh, like, maybe 646 00:34:59,150 --> 00:35:02,509 Sully: surviving a bit at tighthead, but. And good defensively. I 647 00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:05,870 Sully: just wish we could get some metres out of him 648 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:10,750 Sully: with the ball in hand. But yeah, that that might come. Um, no. 649 00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:14,270 Sully: I'm reasonably happy with the team that we've got with the, 650 00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:18,890 Sully: with the injuries that we've got. Um, whether we can 651 00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:24,049 Sully: win this game. I mean, I'll be crossing everything I've got. Fingers, toes, eyes. 652 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:25,690 Sully: Maybe not eyes. I'll be a bit hard to watch 653 00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:30,210 Sully: the rugby with my eyes crossed. Um, yeah. Um, but 654 00:35:30,210 --> 00:35:35,450 Sully: I know now that these guys know what the system is, 655 00:35:35,770 --> 00:35:38,810 Sully: know what their role is, and they're going to they're 656 00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:40,450 Sully: going to gel as a team and they're going to 657 00:35:40,450 --> 00:35:42,529 Sully: do the best they can. And that's that's all we 658 00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:44,690 Sully: can really ask of them. Yeah. 659 00:35:44,969 --> 00:35:48,410 Happy: Um, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'll take Australia by, you know, 660 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,969 Happy: 5 to 7 points, much like last week. But uh, 661 00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:58,730 Happy: the I think the most impressive thing since, uh, the loss, 662 00:35:58,770 --> 00:36:01,450 Happy: the loss in the second test to Lions is that 663 00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:03,850 Happy: seems to have set the new benchmark as to the 664 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:06,810 Happy: level that's acceptable to play at. And I can honestly 665 00:36:06,810 --> 00:36:11,290 Happy: say in the last since that game, they haven't played 666 00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:16,270 Happy: any worse than that. Like they've they've their levels, their 667 00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:18,910 Happy: base levels higher, which means they're in games for longer. 668 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:22,029 Sully: Um, I just love that. Like, players have come in, 669 00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:25,750 Sully: like we've lost wingers, we've lost flyers, we've lost others 670 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:27,790 Sully: for you know. 671 00:36:27,830 --> 00:36:28,190 Happy: Mhm. 672 00:36:28,469 --> 00:36:31,670 Sully: Elon is a massive loss. But people have stepped up 673 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:35,230 Sully: and I really love that, that, that, that we can 674 00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:38,069 Sully: do that. And people have come in and realised that 675 00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:41,190 Sully: this is the standard, this is what I have to do. 676 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:45,549 Sully: And uh yeah I'm really impressed. 677 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:49,189 Happy: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, at the start of the year, 678 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:51,430 Happy: you wouldn't have taken odds on Jeremy Williams and Tom 679 00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:54,550 Happy: Hooper being in the second row and being happy with it. 680 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:59,030 Karl: I'm I'm still not 100% happy with that, I don't 681 00:36:59,030 --> 00:37:04,270 Karl: think um, I don't think Hooper. I think Hooper's better 682 00:37:04,270 --> 00:37:05,870 Karl: as a loose forward than he is as a lock, 683 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:10,230 Karl: to be honest. I, I, I actually, to be honest, 684 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:14,029 Karl: I still think that if I was picking locks for Australia, 685 00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:17,080 Karl: I would go to the four slots because I think 686 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,279 Karl: the sum of those two is better than the sum 687 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Karl: of two others, even though individually the others might be better. 688 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Karl: But Swain and Williams were so good for the force, 689 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Karl: they just understood each other. They played so well, they 690 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Karl: knew what was going on. Um, and I, I, I 691 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,879 Karl: don't think Hooper had a very good game last week, 692 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,440 Karl: to be honest. I just don't think he's a lock. 693 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Karl: And I think that putting him at lock makes our 694 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,680 Karl: pack less of a physical threat than what it does 695 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,920 Karl: when he's as loose forward and we've got someone else's lock. 696 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,640 Happy: Yeah, I think that's fair. I don't think, Hooper. I 697 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,400 Happy: don't think that Hooper Williams is a locking partnership against 698 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,600 Happy: the South Africans. No, no, they represent a different challenge. 699 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440 Karl: I don't think you'll see it against the All Blacks either, mate. 700 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,480 Happy: Potentially. Potentially. Although word seems to be around that Skilton 701 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,980 Happy: won't be back, so. But yeah. know, and I think 702 00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:16,420 Happy: that's why they're giving Frost the rest. Yeah. You know, 703 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,660 Happy: they can they take the risk out of it. They say, okay, 704 00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:21,100 Happy: we're going to have frost for the All Blacks because 705 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:23,620 Happy: he can't get injured against the Argentinians because he's not 706 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:25,900 Happy: going to play. Yeah. And we and we think we 707 00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:28,819 Happy: can handle our business. And it will be an it 708 00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:32,540 Happy: will be it'll be a bit of a watershed moment. 709 00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:34,899 Happy: Can they can they pick a team that can just 710 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:38,900 Happy: handle the business against somebody else for with an eye 711 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:43,779 Happy: to a bigger opposition in the future? 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Just 722 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,960 S1: head to Goodradigbee to place your order. And here's a 723 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,560 S1: special offer for green and gold rugby fans. Use code G, 724 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,520 S1: G20 at checkout for 20% off. Or click the link 725 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,680 S1: in the episode description. Goodradigbee. That's good. Rah! Dig. Be 726 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,360 S1: hard to pronounce. Real easy to drink. And remember, drink responsibly. 727 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,319 Karl: Obviously. Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong, I as 728 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,839 Karl: soon as it's Wallabies against All Blacks, I'm going to 729 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,560 Karl: switch my head around and you guys are all going 730 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,799 Karl: to hate me. But that's just the way. 731 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,480 Happy: That's okay. 732 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Sully: I was just having a chuckle at all the ways 733 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920 Sully: you were chucking out the Wallabies a second ago. I 734 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,000 Sully: think two weeks time. We're not going to hear any wheeze. 735 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,680 Happy: Well, you're about to hear a few more wheeze now 736 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,160 Happy: because this. Let's get into the next game. Uh, All 737 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:13,940 Happy: Blacks v South Africa. The New Zealand team from one 738 00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:19,060 Happy: thru is Ethan de Groot, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Tyrel Lomax, Scott Barrett, 739 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,420 Happy: Tupou VI, Simon Parker, Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi, Noah Hotham, 740 00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:27,940 Happy: Beauden Barrett, Leroy Carter at 11, Jordie Barrett at 12, 741 00:40:27,980 --> 00:40:31,340 Happy: Billy Proctor at 13, Will Jordan at 14, Daniel McKenzie 742 00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:38,020 Happy: at 15 with the bench of Brodie McAlister, Tamaiti Williams, Fletcher. Newell. Interesting. 743 00:40:38,219 --> 00:40:42,900 Happy: Fabian Holland, Du'plessis Kirifi, Finlay, Christie, Tupou Vaa'i Reuben Love 744 00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:52,940 Happy: are the South African team is. Malcolm Marx, Thomas du Toit, Ryan. Ruan, Ngugi. 745 00:40:53,219 --> 00:40:57,820 Happy: See Kolisi at six Pieter-Steph du Toit at seven. Uh, 746 00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:01,340 Happy: that's not how they play in South Africa. Uh, Jasper 747 00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:07,819 Happy: Visa at eight, Kobus Reinhardt at nine, Sacha Mngomezulu at ten. 748 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:12,080 Happy: Ethan Hooker at 11. Damien, villains and Cain and Moody 749 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,200 Happy: make up the centres. Cheslin Kolbe on one wing and 750 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:22,080 Happy: a fairly fussy is the fullback. The replacements are Marius 751 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:30,240 Happy: van der Merwe, Jan Hendrik Vessels, Wilco Louw, RG Snyman, 752 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:38,520 Happy: Kwagga Smith, Grant Williams, Manie Libbok and Andre Esterhuizen. Tell 753 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,840 Happy: me why your All Blacks are going to win, Carl. Um, 754 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,240 Happy: and you can't just go, oh, because we're in New Zealand, 755 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,680 Happy: you've got to provide an answer. 756 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:54,040 Karl: I think, um, I think I think the South Africans 757 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,000 Karl: are going to lack a little bit of cohesion in 758 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279 Karl: this game because they've made so many changes, and I 759 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,440 Karl: think that's going to hurt them. Um, I think some 760 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000 Karl: of the changes they've made are actually quite good. Some 761 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,940 Karl: of the players they've brought in, um, and their two centers, 762 00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:14,260 Karl: for example. I think they're actually faster and quicker than 763 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:17,739 Karl: the guys they replace, but I think they lack that cohesion, 764 00:42:17,739 --> 00:42:20,700 Karl: and I think that that might cost them. Um, I'm 765 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:25,339 Karl: actually really happy with the New Zealand team. I think that, um, 766 00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:29,739 Karl: we've now got six front row, six props who could 767 00:42:29,739 --> 00:42:33,020 Karl: all step up and start. I think we've got, um, 768 00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:38,620 Karl: we've got probably four locks. Any fool could start and, 769 00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:40,700 Karl: and I think that even even with our loose forwards, 770 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:44,180 Karl: I think we're finally starting to settle on the loose 771 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:49,899 Karl: forwards that are actually are actually complementing the game that that, uh, 772 00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:53,779 Karl: razor wants to play. So, um, I think I think 773 00:42:53,780 --> 00:42:57,379 Karl: New Zealand will win. Um, I, I think that the 774 00:42:57,380 --> 00:43:01,020 Karl: Australians have got the ability. I'm sorry. The, the, um, 775 00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:05,299 Karl: Boks have got the ability to just bring something out 776 00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:07,439 Karl: of the pot that will threaten them. But I don't 777 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,520 Karl: think they're going to have the cohesion to see it 778 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,280 Karl: through for the 80 minutes. Too many changes too quickly 779 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,760 Karl: for me. 780 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,800 Happy: Karl thoughts whether it's actually going to be fair in 781 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,279 Happy: Wellington on the weekend. 782 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,080 Karl: Well yeah, it's Wellington. So you know that just means 783 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,480 Karl: it's not horizontal. 784 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:31,080 Happy: Yeah. Well it's is what is it. Saturday. It's like 785 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,640 Happy: cloudy with a chance of, uh, extreme, uh, extreme weather, 786 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,240 Happy: I guess. 787 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,759 Karl: Yeah. That means so that means that. Yeah. You got to. 788 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Happy: Remember. 789 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,760 Karl: What you call extreme weather over here in New Zealand. 790 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,360 Karl: They say. Yeah, it's not even there. So, yeah. 791 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,200 Sully: Um, I think, uh, Malcolm Marx is is is bloody 792 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,520 Sully: lucky to keep his spot in that side. Uh, Cobus Rinehart, uh, 793 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,640 Sully: I think they've gone. He's a he's a grumpy little, uh, halfback. 794 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,960 Sully: And I think, uh, they, they've gone for a bit 795 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,540 Sully: more aggro there, I think, uh, I'm not as confident 796 00:44:08,540 --> 00:44:11,100 Sully: about the Senate pairing as Carl is. I think there 797 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,060 Sully: was nothing wrong. I think it was one of their 798 00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:17,300 Sully: strong points that the, um, the last weeks, uh, Senate 799 00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:21,020 Sully: pairing and and I'm not sure why they, um, well, 800 00:44:21,020 --> 00:44:25,819 Sully: they got changed. Um, but, um, who played fullback last week? 801 00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:26,580 Sully: The old fella. 802 00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:31,140 Happy: Yeah. No, he, um. Willie le Roux. 803 00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:34,140 Sully: Willie le Roux. Yeah. So. And, um, I think that's 804 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:37,620 Sully: a good change. Uh, fussy at fullback is. He's a 805 00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:41,900 Sully: bloody exciting player. So, uh, we'll see how that goes. But, yeah, 806 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:46,340 Sully: I don't think. I don't think this is as strong 807 00:44:46,380 --> 00:44:48,940 Sully: a all black Springbok team as it was last week. 808 00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:51,620 Sully: I'm with Karl with the All Blacks. Um, that's looking 809 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:54,660 Sully: like a bloody good side. Uh, they seem to be 810 00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:57,819 Sully: settling on a back row. They just gotta find a 811 00:44:57,860 --> 00:45:02,819 Sully: permanent guy at six. Um, and Simon Parker might be 812 00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:04,500 Sully: the guy for that. You never know, but, um. 813 00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:06,439 Karl: Yeah, well, if he, if if he keeps playing like 814 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,239 Karl: he did last week, I think he will be the 815 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,000 Karl: guy at it. Um, they tried VI, but he was. 816 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,760 Karl: He's a lock, and he's a really, really good lock. And, 817 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,320 Karl: you know, there's one of the things that annoys me. 818 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,080 Karl: And I see a lot of coaches doing it. You know, 819 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,120 Karl: we want players who can play in multiple positions. I 820 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,960 Karl: personally don't agree with that. I think that almost every 821 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,920 Karl: position in a in a rugby field is specialist. You know, 822 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,360 Karl: you had a guy like Ben Smith who could play 823 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,399 Karl: equally at wing or fullback, and now everyone says, oh, well, look, 824 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,799 Karl: he can do it so everyone can do it. But 825 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,520 Karl: actually they can't, you know, um, you got a guy 826 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,719 Karl: like Callaway. Callaway. Callaway to me is a really good 827 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,680 Karl: fullback who can play wing, but he's not as good 828 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,160 Karl: a winger as he is a fullback. 829 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,319 Sully: No, I don't think he has the out and out 830 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,920 Sully: pace to be. 831 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,040 Karl: Yeah. And and and I, I actually think that um, 832 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,360 Karl: the idea you know even things like Dmac playing 15 833 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,940 Karl: or 10 personally I think he's a very good 15, 834 00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:08,380 Karl: but I think he really struggles at ten. So I'm 835 00:46:08,380 --> 00:46:13,700 Karl: I'm not a fan of players that swap between these positions. 836 00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:16,900 Karl: I think that I would rather have the specialist best 837 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,900 Karl: player in that position, and I think we're starting to 838 00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:22,140 Karl: go down that path a lot more, which is good. 839 00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:23,020 Sully: Yeah. 840 00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:28,180 Happy: Yeah. Look, I think, um, I think the back three 841 00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:32,939 Happy: is pretty interchangeable. Um, 11 1415 you can sort of, 842 00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:36,739 Happy: you know, be be a bit, be a bit like 843 00:46:36,739 --> 00:46:39,980 Happy: that and maybe, you know, really good six sevens and 844 00:46:39,980 --> 00:46:42,819 Happy: eights can move, move between them. But you've got to 845 00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:46,140 Happy: be at the severe level to do that, you know. 846 00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:48,580 Happy: And he just happens to be very good at rugby. 847 00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:52,300 Sully: Who's at the Ardie Savea level besides. Yeah. 848 00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:52,940 Karl: Besides. 849 00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:54,260 Happy: Yeah. 850 00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:58,020 Karl: Yeah he's a machine isn't he. 851 00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:02,100 Happy: Yeah yeah yeah. Look um, you know, I would argue 852 00:47:02,140 --> 00:47:05,080 Happy: like a Bobby Valentini can play six, 6 or 8, 853 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,160 Happy: but he can't play seven. So there's just, you know, 854 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,399 Happy: there's only one of him to be. He's one of one, 855 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,040 Happy: to be fair. 856 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,520 Karl: And to be fair to that, a lot of this 857 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,919 Karl: comes down to how the coach wants those players to play. Yeah. 858 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,759 Karl: You know, um, if if you want to play a 859 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,560 Karl: number eight like Kieran Read, then Valentini wouldn't be able 860 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,359 Karl: to do it. Yeah. Whereas a six. So a lot 861 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,719 Karl: of it comes down to how you want them to play. Yeah. Um, I, I, 862 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,360 Karl: I think that I, I, I even think there's a 863 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,840 Karl: big difference between 14 and 11 and four and five. 864 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759 Karl: I think they all have differences in the game where 865 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,759 Karl: if you get an expert in it, they're going to 866 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,840 Karl: be better than trying to have someone cover both. Yeah. 867 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,279 Happy: Yeah. You're you're a tighthead lock man. Yeah yeah yeah. 868 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,920 Happy: And I, I don't disagree with you in that respect. 869 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,200 Happy: There's there's elements to some of the positions where they 870 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,440 Happy: just don't translate. 871 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,760 Karl: Yeah absolutely. 872 00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:01,730 Happy: They just don't. 873 00:48:01,969 --> 00:48:05,850 Sully: Look at, uh, the Tom Hooper as an example. So 874 00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:09,730 Sully: people say he's a five, six, seven, eight, and, uh. 875 00:48:10,370 --> 00:48:11,410 Karl: I don't see that. 876 00:48:11,930 --> 00:48:14,009 Sully: Mm. No, but people say it, so. 877 00:48:14,050 --> 00:48:14,490 Happy: Yeah. 878 00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:17,089 Sully: Um, and I don't I don't agree with it. I 879 00:48:17,090 --> 00:48:19,970 Sully: have seen him play seven, but not for a while. 880 00:48:19,969 --> 00:48:23,450 Sully: And he wasn't 123 kilos or something. I think he 881 00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:27,930 Sully: claims he when he did it. So. Yeah. Yeah. 882 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:31,450 Happy: Yeah. And look, I, I think, um, you know, he, 883 00:48:31,489 --> 00:48:36,250 Happy: he's a, he's a very good six. Um, and sometimes 884 00:48:36,570 --> 00:48:38,210 Happy: you get, you sort of get a bit in love 885 00:48:38,210 --> 00:48:41,969 Happy: with it, uh, in love with a player like that, uh, going. Oh, 886 00:48:41,969 --> 00:48:45,730 Happy: he can, because he can do some of those other things. 887 00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:47,569 Happy: You sort of go, okay, well, I just want him 888 00:48:47,570 --> 00:48:49,610 Happy: on the field rather than. 889 00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:53,489 Sully: I'd rather. I'd rather he was A46 instead of A56. 890 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:54,610 Happy: Mhm. 891 00:48:54,810 --> 00:48:56,129 Sully: If you're going to put him in the second row 892 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:58,810 Sully: I don't think I'd, I, I'd rather have him at 893 00:48:58,850 --> 00:49:02,310 Sully: loosehead lock headlock, then tight headlock, but that's. That seems 894 00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:04,310 Sully: to be where he's going. So. Yes. 895 00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:07,550 Happy: Yes. Well, we're disappearing down some rabbit holes. 896 00:49:08,350 --> 00:49:12,469 Sully: So I'm going down to, um, two technical paths. 897 00:49:12,989 --> 00:49:19,189 Happy: Yes, indeed. Technical indeed. Um, what? What do you think 898 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:21,070 Happy: the result of? This one's going to be, my friend. 899 00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:29,669 Sully: Um, I think, um, Bodie Barrett, um, on his old 900 00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:32,270 Sully: home ground. Uh, I've seen him play some wonderful games 901 00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:34,630 Sully: in Wellington. So, uh, I'm going to go with the 902 00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:38,550 Sully: All Blacks. Um, you know, part of me and I 903 00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:42,710 Sully: really don't back the All Blacks because Aussie Kiwi thing. 904 00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:45,750 Sully: But part of me would love the, um, part of 905 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:48,230 Sully: me would love the box to get up and, uh, 906 00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:50,870 Sully: Australia to win and go into the go into the, 907 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:53,870 Sully: the um, the two matches against New Zealand with, with 908 00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:56,510 Sully: a lead in the points that would, that would just 909 00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:59,290 Sully: make me chuffed. But uh, no, I want the Kiwis 910 00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:04,009 Sully: to win. So. So are Kiwis by about the same 911 00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:05,930 Sully: I think about seven. Let's see. 912 00:50:06,850 --> 00:50:08,570 Karl: Now. Kiwis by 13. 913 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:09,530 Sully: Yeah. 914 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:14,450 Happy: Yeah I think um I think it's going to be close, 915 00:50:14,450 --> 00:50:16,969 Happy: but I think there's only one team that can win 916 00:50:16,969 --> 00:50:19,690 Happy: it by 13, which is New Zealand. I don't think 917 00:50:19,770 --> 00:50:24,649 Happy: uh I don't, I don't see the Safa as being 918 00:50:24,650 --> 00:50:26,489 Happy: the kind of team that can blow another team off 919 00:50:26,489 --> 00:50:29,129 Happy: the park at the moment. They just seem to be 920 00:50:29,650 --> 00:50:30,250 Happy: a little, um. 921 00:50:31,290 --> 00:50:34,090 Sully: Yeah, do it in the scrum. But, uh, they line 922 00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:38,410 Sully: it is not dominant. And, um, I don't think they're, 923 00:50:38,450 --> 00:50:40,890 Sully: they're playing to lose is dominant at the moment. So. 924 00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:46,609 Happy: Yeah. Yeah. So look I um yeah I, I will 925 00:50:46,610 --> 00:50:50,890 Happy: pick New Zealand by not very much. I think it'll, it'll, 926 00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:53,450 Happy: it'll just be that kind of close grind out game 927 00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:58,190 Happy: again that uh Nick I'm really is the is the 928 00:50:58,190 --> 00:51:01,070 Happy: ref this weekend. And he he showed in the um 929 00:51:01,350 --> 00:51:03,830 Happy: in the line when he refereed the lines that he's 930 00:51:03,830 --> 00:51:06,069 Happy: probably in the top 4 or 5 referees in the 931 00:51:06,070 --> 00:51:09,469 Happy: world at the moment. Uh, so he seems to like 932 00:51:09,469 --> 00:51:13,950 Happy: a nice, clean, relatively quick game, which, uh, I don't 933 00:51:13,950 --> 00:51:18,589 Happy: think suits the South Africans. Uh, so I'm going to 934 00:51:18,590 --> 00:51:24,109 Happy: take New Zealand in this one. Uh, just thought we 935 00:51:24,110 --> 00:51:27,270 Happy: might scoot on and touch on a couple of other, uh, 936 00:51:27,310 --> 00:51:31,470 Happy: bits and pieces going on. Obviously, the Wallaroos are taking on, uh, 937 00:51:31,550 --> 00:51:37,350 Happy: Canadian women over the weekend in the quarterfinals. Um, after 938 00:51:37,350 --> 00:51:41,270 Happy: a brave showing against against England. Do you. What do 939 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:44,509 Happy: you think, Brent? Um, Carl, do you think they got 940 00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:44,910 Happy: a shot? 941 00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:45,910 Karl: Um. 942 00:51:46,310 --> 00:51:48,710 Happy: Puncher's chance, or is it just going to be a 943 00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:49,870 Happy: bridge too far? You think? 944 00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:53,470 Karl: Okay, I said it earlier, so my my pick is 945 00:51:53,469 --> 00:51:56,190 Karl: that the Wallaroos are going to be ahead at at 946 00:51:56,290 --> 00:51:59,490 Karl: half time. Yeah, but they're not going to be able 947 00:51:59,489 --> 00:52:02,009 Karl: to sustain it for the whole match. And Canadians will 948 00:52:02,010 --> 00:52:04,529 Karl: come through at the end. I think I think the 949 00:52:04,570 --> 00:52:10,210 Karl: wallaby the the Wallaroos lack the experience to be able 950 00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:14,089 Karl: to sustain what they do for that, like they did 951 00:52:14,090 --> 00:52:17,730 Karl: for the first 25 minutes against, um, the against the, 952 00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:21,370 Karl: the English team. I think they just lack the experience 953 00:52:21,370 --> 00:52:24,050 Karl: to know how to sustain that for the whole match 954 00:52:24,050 --> 00:52:27,890 Karl: at the moment. So, so to me, um, they've got 955 00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:31,489 Karl: some incredible players who are playing really, really good rugby 956 00:52:31,850 --> 00:52:33,730 Karl: and I think that they're going to be ahead at 957 00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:36,770 Karl: half time, but they won't be able to sustain it. 958 00:52:36,770 --> 00:52:38,010 Karl: That's what mine is. 959 00:52:38,650 --> 00:52:40,090 Happy: Yeah. Sorry. 960 00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:44,410 Sully: Yeah I agree with Carl. I think, um, while the 961 00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:48,489 Sully: Wallaroos are a better team than the last time they played, uh, Canada, 962 00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:53,890 Sully: I don't think they've developed enough. Um, felt enough to 963 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:59,509 Sully: take the wind. The wind. But you know, there always 964 00:52:59,510 --> 00:53:01,310 Sully: a chance there in the game, there on the field. 965 00:53:01,310 --> 00:53:05,230 Sully: They can win. And I hope they just go for it. Um, no. 966 00:53:05,230 --> 00:53:08,110 Sully: No hesitation. Just go for it. Um, I gotta say, 967 00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:09,989 Sully: I gotta learn her name. I love the I love 968 00:53:09,989 --> 00:53:13,549 Sully: the halfback for the Wallaroos. I think she's fantastic. But yeah, 969 00:53:13,550 --> 00:53:16,470 Sully: I haven't I haven't taken bothered to learn her name 970 00:53:16,469 --> 00:53:21,549 Sully: quite yet, which is pretty, pretty rude of me, but. Yeah. Um. Yeah, 971 00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:24,910 Sully: I think this will be our last game, unfortunately. But 972 00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:27,230 Sully: I'm ready for it. I'm ready for them to win. 973 00:53:27,230 --> 00:53:30,630 Sully: So come on, the Wallaroos. I'm keen as hell. 974 00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:33,509 Happy: Yeah. You know, I, um, I'd love to see them 975 00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:36,670 Happy: get up by, um, I do, I do like the 976 00:53:36,670 --> 00:53:40,069 Happy: way the Canadian treat their women's rugby. They very much 977 00:53:40,070 --> 00:53:44,430 Happy: treated on an equal footing. Uh, but obviously, you know, 978 00:53:44,469 --> 00:53:47,550 Happy: I want I want the Australians to get up. Um, 979 00:53:48,430 --> 00:53:50,550 Happy: but that's my heart. My head tells me. I think 980 00:53:50,590 --> 00:53:54,370 Happy: this is this is where they'll get to. And, uh, frankly, 981 00:53:54,890 --> 00:53:56,770 Happy: if you'd asked me at the start of the tournament, 982 00:53:56,770 --> 00:53:59,649 Happy: would quarterfinal be acceptable? I think it would have been. 983 00:53:59,650 --> 00:54:03,129 Happy: Getting out of that pool was tough. Um, and yeah, 984 00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:05,810 Happy: they got out of that pool in in the end, 985 00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:09,850 Happy: you'd have to say comfortably, uh, in terms of the 986 00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:10,850 Happy: points differential. 987 00:54:11,489 --> 00:54:15,970 Karl: I only only because America didn't beat Samoa by enough. 988 00:54:15,969 --> 00:54:18,770 Karl: So I wouldn't say it was comfortable. I'd say it 989 00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:21,489 Karl: was more lucky than comfortable. But hey, they got there. 990 00:54:21,530 --> 00:54:23,450 Karl: That's all that counts. At the end of the, you know, 991 00:54:23,489 --> 00:54:25,810 Karl: in ten years time, people look back and say, yes, 992 00:54:25,810 --> 00:54:27,609 Karl: they got out of the pool. So how they got 993 00:54:27,610 --> 00:54:28,930 Karl: out doesn't really matter. 994 00:54:29,530 --> 00:54:33,130 Happy: Throughout the year. And he took it like a champion. Um. 995 00:54:35,969 --> 00:54:39,650 Happy: And other games on this weekend. We got the, the, uh, 996 00:54:40,450 --> 00:54:45,530 Happy: the um, Brumbies in the, uh, Super Rugby or super 997 00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:48,810 Happy: AU or Australian AU, whatever you want to call it. Um, 998 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:53,710 Happy: a couple of the Super Rugby guys and a few 999 00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:58,310 Happy: clubbies getting into both the Waratahs and the force. Uh, 1000 00:54:58,630 --> 00:55:02,350 Happy: both teams are out there fairly decent. Matt Phillips is 1001 00:55:02,350 --> 00:55:06,270 Happy: playing amateur heroes, getting a run, so it's serving a 1002 00:55:06,270 --> 00:55:10,870 Happy: good purpose in terms of the guys who are just 1003 00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:14,190 Happy: on the outside looking in. From the Wallabies perspective, getting 1004 00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:16,790 Happy: them a run and also getting it, getting a bit 1005 00:55:16,790 --> 00:55:22,350 Happy: of a run into, uh, into, um, some potential potential 1006 00:55:22,469 --> 00:55:28,469 Happy: guys for next year. Um, the, the force have got 1007 00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:34,190 Happy: Darcy Swain playing. He's captaining their team. Um, George Pullman's playing, uh, 1008 00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:37,710 Happy: Matt Greely's having a run. So that's really cool. Uh, 1009 00:55:39,590 --> 00:55:41,870 Happy: in terms of, uh, Brisbane guys to look out for, 1010 00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:44,310 Happy: for those of us who are from Brisbane, uh, there's 1011 00:55:44,310 --> 00:55:48,310 Happy: a club called Bradley Kuhn who's um, from University of 1012 00:55:48,310 --> 00:55:50,830 Happy: Queensland and formerly, of course, he's having a run for 1013 00:55:50,830 --> 00:55:55,130 Happy: the force. Uh, for the Reds. Aidan, Ross and I 1014 00:55:55,610 --> 00:55:57,090 Happy: are having a run, so that's good to see, because 1015 00:55:57,090 --> 00:55:59,930 Happy: they'll be, uh, pretty much two of their starting props 1016 00:55:59,930 --> 00:56:04,730 Happy: next year. Um, Joe Breuil, Kalani Thomas, Henry McLaughlin, Phillips 1017 00:56:04,730 --> 00:56:08,649 Happy: all having a go. Um, couple of clubbies to look 1018 00:56:08,650 --> 00:56:12,570 Happy: out for as, uh, Theo Fleury and Kellen Herbert. Uh, 1019 00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:17,250 Happy: note for you, Kyle Cohen was the former, uh, New 1020 00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:21,730 Happy: Zealand under 20s captain back in the day. Uh, the. 1021 00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:26,129 Happy: But he's a born and raised on the Gold Coast. Um, 1022 00:56:26,489 --> 00:56:28,650 Happy: and there's, you know, a few boys that you recognize 1023 00:56:28,650 --> 00:56:34,529 Happy: from the Brumbies being Reece Vanek. Uh, Declan. Meredith. Ollie. Sapsford. Hudson. Crichton. 1024 00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:36,770 Happy: So there's a few boys in there who you. Who 1025 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:39,850 Happy: you know and love. So be worth getting down to. Uh, 1026 00:56:40,450 --> 00:56:46,010 Happy: I believe the Waratahs game is at manly. Uh, Manly 1027 00:56:46,010 --> 00:56:49,250 Happy: Rugby Union Club. And the Reds, of course, will be 1028 00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:54,550 Happy: playing out of Ballymore. Uh, what are your thoughts, Sally? 1029 00:56:54,550 --> 00:56:56,189 Happy: Who do you think will win each of those games? 1030 00:56:56,190 --> 00:56:57,590 Happy: You've had a look at both teams. 1031 00:56:57,830 --> 00:57:03,110 Sully: I think the Waratahs, uh, look good on paper. Um, uh, 1032 00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:07,990 Sully: just interesting on your thoughts. Like Isaac is is a reserve, uh, 1033 00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:12,030 Sully: loosehead in that game for the Waratahs. Like he was a. 1034 00:57:14,190 --> 00:57:17,310 Sully: Starter for the rebels. Nearly like fully on. And now 1035 00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:20,350 Sully: since Waratahs he's a flower getting the start. What do 1036 00:57:20,350 --> 00:57:21,270 Sully: you think's happened there. 1037 00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:23,430 S9: Uh I don't. 1038 00:57:23,470 --> 00:57:27,190 Happy: Know. It's um look it could be. It could be injury, 1039 00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:29,790 Happy: could be loss of form, could be just. He's not 1040 00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:32,910 Happy: coalescing with, uh, Dan McKellar as the coach. 1041 00:57:33,310 --> 00:57:33,630 Sully: Yeah. 1042 00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:36,590 Happy: And sometimes, sometimes it just happens with some players that, 1043 00:57:37,070 --> 00:57:41,670 Happy: you know, obviously taint Edmonton McKellar didn't work well together. Um, 1044 00:57:43,310 --> 00:57:44,910 Happy: McKellar I think will be in a little bit of 1045 00:57:44,910 --> 00:57:49,210 Happy: pressure next year because there's been for the for the 1046 00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:51,250 Happy: quality of the squad that the Tigers have got. They 1047 00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:54,250 Happy: certainly underperformed. Get away with that year one. But you 1048 00:57:54,250 --> 00:57:55,890 Happy: worry about it for you know if you can't get 1049 00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:58,690 Happy: some consistency into the year two he could be on 1050 00:57:58,730 --> 00:58:00,330 Happy: the on the hot seat a bit. 1051 00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:04,770 Sully: Um I wonder if Brumbies coaches are like uh, Crusaders 1052 00:58:04,770 --> 00:58:07,410 Sully: coaches that, uh, once you take them out of that, 1053 00:58:08,650 --> 00:58:11,450 Sully: out of that system that they don't quite do as well. 1054 00:58:12,370 --> 00:58:15,850 Happy: Very nice, very nice. Um. 1055 00:58:16,650 --> 00:58:19,610 Sully: Yeah. But I read breadsall, uh, flogged the Brumbies mate 1056 00:58:19,610 --> 00:58:22,090 Sully: like they always do. Brumbies. 1057 00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:28,090 Karl: Um, I must admit, I, I don't know enough about 1058 00:58:28,090 --> 00:58:30,370 Karl: all the different players to have too much. I, I 1059 00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:33,810 Karl: just think that for me, it's just really good to 1060 00:58:33,850 --> 00:58:37,970 Karl: see that Australia has brought something in that is giving 1061 00:58:37,970 --> 00:58:43,130 Karl: these guys, um, both the people who are playing Super 1062 00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:46,490 Karl: Rugby already, but also those club players that are stepping up, 1063 00:58:46,850 --> 00:58:49,420 Karl: they're giving them that next level rugby so that they're 1064 00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:52,660 Karl: gaining experience so that when they or if they do 1065 00:58:52,660 --> 00:58:54,860 Karl: have to step up to the next level, they've actually 1066 00:58:54,860 --> 00:58:57,700 Karl: got some experience before they get there. So I think 1067 00:58:57,740 --> 00:59:00,460 Karl: it's great. I think it's absolutely great. 1068 00:59:00,980 --> 00:59:04,340 Sully: I'm pretty keen, um, to watch a bit of Pacquiao 1069 00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:08,820 Sully: as well, because I think he is like the a future, um, 1070 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:11,780 Sully: long term Reds inside centre. So it'll be interesting to 1071 00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:14,940 Sully: see how he develops in the next, I don't know, 1072 00:59:14,980 --> 00:59:19,740 Sully: 12 months maybe. Yeah. I think he's already putting pressure on, um, 1073 00:59:20,820 --> 00:59:21,420 Sully: by Sammy. 1074 00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:26,660 Happy: Sammy. Yeah, yeah. Look. And, uh, similarly with Isaac Henry, 1075 00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:28,340 Happy: you hope he gets a bit of a run because 1076 00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:30,100 Happy: he's had a horrendous game with injury. 1077 00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:33,020 Sully: He's played club rugby, hasn't he though. 1078 00:59:33,460 --> 00:59:35,860 Happy: Yeah he did, he did. He played a few games 1079 00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:40,020 Happy: early on mid-season, came back, got injured again, then came 1080 00:59:40,020 --> 00:59:42,260 Happy: back again, then managed to get a run for the 1081 00:59:42,260 --> 00:59:44,820 Happy: Reds right at the back end of Super Rugby. Yeah. 1082 00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:50,440 Happy: So He's. You can only hope. You can only hope. Um, 1083 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,080 Happy: you know, there's a few. Good. I mean, obviously, being Queenslander, 1084 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,560 Happy: there's a few few more names I recognize in the, uh, 1085 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,000 Happy: in the Reds team who are, uh, who are good, 1086 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,920 Happy: good players coming up, uh, you know, Will Cartwright's a 1087 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,040 Happy: good player. They've got him as a half back. He 1088 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,000 Happy: played on the wing for brothers in the grand final. Uh, 1089 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,480 Happy: scored three tries, got some real wheels about him, but, 1090 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,280 Happy: you know, he's, um. And Xavier Ruben's in the same boat. Really, 1091 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,040 Happy: really good player. Um. 1092 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,400 Sully: I think seriously, seriously, I was joking about the Reds 1093 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,280 Sully: flogging them before, but, um, I reckon that's going to 1094 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,840 Sully: be a pretty good match up. There's some. 1095 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:31,840 Happy: That's going to be tasty. 1096 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:32,480 Sully: There. 1097 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,720 Happy: Yeah, it's going to be tasty. I think it's good 1098 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,080 Happy: to see from, from a, from a red supporter. You 1099 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,040 Happy: it's good to see that team recognise a lot of 1100 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,760 Happy: players and go they've they've got the four guys who 1101 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,580 Happy: they put on secondment over to the Italian club. 1102 01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,020 Sully: Oh they're back, are they? 1103 01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:54,740 Happy: Oh they're away. Yeah. Yeah. So that's uh, Ciara broil 1104 01:00:54,740 --> 01:00:56,780 Happy: watch on. And one other. 1105 01:00:57,180 --> 01:00:57,700 Sully: Yeah. 1106 01:00:57,740 --> 01:00:58,500 Happy: Have gone over. 1107 01:00:58,940 --> 01:00:59,380 Sully: Fluke. 1108 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:02,780 Happy: Yeah. Oh, no. Fluke. Flukes in the Australian team. 1109 01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:04,180 Sully: Yeah, but he was one of the ones that was 1110 01:01:04,180 --> 01:01:04,500 Sully: supposed to. 1111 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:06,820 Happy: Yeah, he was one of them. So to to think 1112 01:01:06,820 --> 01:01:10,060 Happy: that you've you've got four players out of that team 1113 01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:13,060 Happy: and you look at it and you go that's actually 1114 01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:14,780 Happy: still a pretty good team. Mhm. 1115 01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:15,900 S9: Um yeah. 1116 01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:19,060 Happy: So pretty happy with that. Looking forward to it. Uh 1117 01:01:19,420 --> 01:01:22,180 Happy: I'm won't get to that game but I enjoy. 1118 01:01:22,180 --> 01:01:24,580 Sully: These games, these games televised or. 1119 01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:25,540 Happy: They're on. 1120 01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:26,660 Karl: Stan. Stan, mate. 1121 01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:27,580 S9: Yeah. Yeah. Cool. 1122 01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:31,500 Happy: So good play. Fair play to Stan. Our overlords. All 1123 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:35,820 Happy: hail Stan! Um, so they're they're, uh. They're doing the 1124 01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:37,060 Happy: right thing. So good on them. 1125 01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:39,180 Sully: Yep. Nice. 1126 01:01:39,740 --> 01:01:41,860 S9: Um, okay. 1127 01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:43,100 Happy: I think that's us, boys. 1128 01:01:43,140 --> 01:01:44,000 S9: What do you think? Yeah. 1129 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,080 Karl: Yeah, that'll do man. That's good. Hey, it was good. 1130 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,600 Sully: I've had enough of listening to us. 1131 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,800 Karl: Yeah, people are saying. Fuck's sake, can these three shut 1132 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,520 Karl: the hell up? 1133 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,040 S9: Oh, look. 1134 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,720 Happy: Well, as I'm going to say again to everyone, thanks 1135 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,800 Happy: for all your support. Download rate. Subscribe. Review. We really 1136 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,400 Happy: enjoy it. Um, you know, special shout out to all 1137 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,480 Happy: of our, uh, all of our overseas listeners. I love 1138 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,040 Happy: looking at the, uh, the analytics and and it's awesome 1139 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,760 Happy: to think that, you know, we've got people who are 1140 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,640 Happy: listening in North America in the, in, uh, all those 1141 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,280 Happy: sorts of places. I wonder. 1142 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,480 S9: If they. 1143 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,480 Karl: Can understand us. 1144 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,200 Happy: Mate. I wonder, I wonder about like this. I will 1145 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,640 Happy: just highlight a couple just so that. Because if they 1146 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,920 Happy: if they are listening, shout out to you guys. You 1147 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,560 Happy: we we love the fact that you're on board. But 1148 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,720 Happy: there's a, there's five dudes in Poland who listen to us, um, 1149 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,280 Happy: and there's a couple of guys in, in, in Sweden 1150 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:49,340 Happy: and Uganda. So. It's pretty cool. So it's all the Australian. 1151 01:02:49,340 --> 01:02:49,660 Karl: Guys. 1152 01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:51,740 Happy: All the Irish people who are all over the world. 1153 01:02:51,740 --> 01:02:54,540 Happy: We we love, we love. You are listening to us. 1154 01:02:54,580 --> 01:02:55,820 Karl: Absolutely. 1155 01:02:56,180 --> 01:02:59,780 Happy: Hey. So okay, fellas, everyone. 1156 01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:00,460 Karl: I mean. 1157 01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:01,140 Sully: Yeah. 1158 01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:05,460 S2: If you don't know anything about rugby, don't talk. 1159 01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:08,380 S3: Regan drop go from Larkham. 1160 01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:11,260 S4: Australian forward. 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