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S2: Regan. Drop goal from Larkham.

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S3: Australia great forward. They've got the advantage.

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S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.

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S4: Hi everyone and welcome to the team's pod for the week.

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S4: I'm the happy man. And tonight I'm here with Nutter

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S4: and Sully. This week we'll take a look at the

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S4: Rugby competition. Evening, Sully. How are you going, mate?

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S5: Hey, mate. I'm great. I had a great weekend. Uh,

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S5: we all met up for the Reds versus Waratahs game.

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S5: Had a great night sitting next to Yowie. He was

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S4: How are you coming off the bench tonight?

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S6: Now I'm well. Thank you. Um, I'm. I'm recovering from

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S6: my Welsh connection. Uh, look, that was aided and smoothed

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S5: It was tough viewing wasn't it?

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S6: Um, yeah. And I, I just didn't know where they

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S6: He's like that shot of Adam Jones, uh, standing there like.

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S4: Yeah, it was a funny game. I, you know, I

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S4: it wasn't, They weren't. It was looking at a statistically,

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S4: tell you it's that far apart. It's really weird. No.

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S4: But obviously, you know, everything's I didn't watch the game

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S6: they managed to hold on long enough while France beat

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S6: But I was just stricken for the Welsh.

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S4: Yeah. Okay. Um, everyone, thanks very much for your support.

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S6: God love them. That has gotten used to losing over

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S5: Yeah. Over the next four weeks, they've got drew at

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S5: Mm mm.

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S6: Yeah I think they can beat I think they can

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S5: And the week after that they've got the Chiefs away.

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S5: Yeah I think they've, they've just dropped out of the six.

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S5: it's interesting. I think next four weeks Will will tell

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S5: us where they're at really. But they've started great. They

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S4: Look I I'm going to go I'm going to go

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S4: they're stuck with the Saders but with their B team.

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S4: Let's be let's call it what it was their B team.

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S4: Um yep. For 50 minutes. And that was kind of

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S4: when the Crusaders kicked away. Like they didn't really put

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S4: They led the game for 22 of those 50 odd minutes.

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S4: So they were they were there and thereabouts. And I'd suggest,

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S4: what the force have done. Uh, you know, they scored,

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S4: they scored three and a half points per 22 entry,

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S4: which is not too bad. You know, that's half a

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S4: converted try every time you get into the 22. You know,

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S4: I know Scotland had certainly looked at it at the moment. Um,

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S4: but uh, yeah, that I just think that it was

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S4: an away game. And to your point, I don't think they,

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S4: they sort of said, look, we're going to, you know,

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S4: they didn't quite go with the bin juice, but they

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S4: and the Crusaders at home, who are now, I think

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S4: it's safe to say, a resurgent, got away with them. Um,

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S4: the the the state is. It's interesting. Now, if you

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S4: been excellent as well. Like at in in um in Christchurch.

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S4: And I just wonder if it's, I just wonder it's

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S4: because people think the Crusaders could lose it. They're actually going,

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S4: you know, the Crusader fans because there's actually some jeopardy.

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S4: They're not looking at every game and just going, oh,

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S4: it's going to be a whitewash. It's going to be

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S4: a whitewash. They've sort of gotten they've gotten fat. On winning.

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S4: Last year they went through a starvation diet. And now

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S4: they're sort of you know it's more interesting to go.

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S4: Everyone loves to see your team win, but you want

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S4: to see a comp, you know, you want to see competition.

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S4: And I think that, you know, could be could be

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S4: going to go with the bad games. Okay. Uh, yeah.

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S4: Next one. That's everyone's favorite kicking. Kicking team to kick. Um,

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S4: what do you think, uh, Sally? Bad sign or bad sign?

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S5: Bad sign or bad sign?

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S4: Yeah. No, that was deliberate. Now, bad game or bad sign?

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S4: Was it. Did they and did they play that bad

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S4: against the Reds?

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S5: I think they they definitely lost the forward battle. But um,

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S5: forward pack has been pretty good the whole season. But, um,

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S5: I think that was a wake up call for them.

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S5: And there'll be some and they'll be tempted to try

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S5: and fix a lot of things with their forwards this weekend.

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S5: They did. They did keep up for 20 minutes, 20, 20,

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S5: 30 minutes and then just got blown off the park,

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S5: didn't I? Uh. Um, I don't know. So the next

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S5: four weeks is the Brumbies. Uh, they're at home. Hurricanes away,

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S5: Moana Pasifika away, and the Chiefs at home. So they've

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S5: got a they've also got a tough few weeks ahead.

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S5: Moana Pasifika still a tough side, but um. And the

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S5: hurricanes seem to be on the way back from whatever

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S5: was their early season form. But, um, I don't know,

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S5: there's signs there that there's just not the cohesion that

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S5: you expect. So, um, they're a team that's been thrown together.

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S5: They they lost seven Wallabies in the off season and

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S5: they picked up six Wallabies from the rebels. So there's

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S5: a lot of new people in that squad getting used

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S5: to living in Sydney and and a new system. There's

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S5: a new coaching team. So it's a new system for everyone,

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S5: just not the new players. So I think it's a

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S5: tough one, but I think they will get better as

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S5: the season goes on and and games like the Reds

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S5: will be rarer and rarer. So I think I'm tempted

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S5: to say it was a bad game. As much as

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S5: I'd love it to be a bad sign. I think

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S5: it's a bad game. Your thoughts? Nada.

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S6: I've got to say, Sally, that was one of the

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S6: heard from a Queenslander in my life. Um, I reckon

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S6: it's a bad sign. Uh, okay. And for the reasons

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S6: that you said it was a bad game, I actually

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S6: believe it was a bad sign. New South Wales. New

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S6: South Wales Waratahs couldn't have more of a head start

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S6: than if we actually gave them three point head starts

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S6: at the start of a match. They had the absolute

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S6: pick of two complete super squats. They've got the pick

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S6: of sponsors, they've got the pick of kit, they've got

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S6: the pick of crowd. They've got the pick of stadium,

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S6: they get the pick of TV. Is there anything they

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S6: don't get the pick of? Uh. So for those fellas

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S6: to roll out that disgraceful forward performance that they did

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S6: last week against the Tars, against the Reds, where, you know,

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S6: jogging along beside a driving maul that didn't even bother

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S6: to roll like that wasn't even a rolling maul. That

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S6: maul just said, oh, well, there's no bastard here. We'll

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S6: just go straight ahead while the rest of those blue

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S6: boys just sat back and watched it.

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S5: You just sheared off and took four of them with him. Yeah.

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S6: It was that was one of the most, um, inept, um, uh,

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S6: displays of, I'm tempted to call it cowardice, I really am,

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S6: because there was bugger all guts. There was. There was

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S6: the occasional late shot. There was a bit of. It

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S6: was a bit of niggle. Um, there was the odd elbow.

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S6: There was a few late hits, but there was no

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S6: seriously hard man play. Um, that was coming out of

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S6: those fellows in blue that I saw. Uh, and for

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S6: a side that gets every advantage that could conceivably be

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S6: given to it by Rugby Australia and yet continue to

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S6: underperform in such a manner, I just think they're going

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S6: back to where they always go. And that is, um, really,

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S6: really disappointingly poor. Uh, so I think it's, um. Yeah,

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S6: I think it's a bad sign. Um, I think they're

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S6: headed back to the usual standard, uh, that we get

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S6: out of New South Wales, which is to perennially underperform.

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S5: Okay.

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S4: That's brutal.

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S5: It is.

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S6: Brutal. I don't I don't know what else to say. Um,

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S6: you know, when you look at when you look at

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S6: the class of player they have, when you look at, um,

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S6: I've said enough. I'm just repeating myself. I, I think

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S6: they're headed back to their to their usual form. Um.

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S6: I'm sorry. And I'm sorry, Hoss. I know you'll be

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S6: chewing bloody stones in the background. Um, but I they

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S6: really should have done so much better than that last weekend.

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S4: Yeah. Look, they obviously that 22 metre rolling maul try

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S4: or maul try. Let's not call the rolling maul try

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S4: was was an indictment and would have made some very

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S4: painful viewing. Uh, for a, you know, in the review

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S4: on the Monday, particularly with Dan McKellar who prides himself on,

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S4: you know, on that that part of the play. Um,

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S4: they yeah, I. That was pretty, pretty damning. But I'm

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S4: still I'm just tempted to just go, you know what?

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S4: They've they're sitting in fifth. They've played four. They've won three.

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S4: That was one loss. Um, if you I think if

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S4: where they'd be, they'd, they'd have banked it. They are

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S4: coming up, you know. Um, and interesting looking at the

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S4: ladder now. Um, off the top six. Four of those

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S4: teams have played four games, and two of the teams

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S4: have played five games. The bottom six, uh, have almost

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S4: all except for Moana played five games. So although although

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S4: the ladder is very close, it actually could split apart

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S4: a little bit.

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S6: Once the game goes up.

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S4: Yeah, once the games even up and some of those

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S4: teams such as the Highlanders, the Blues, the Drua have

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S4: their bye. They obviously can't pick up points during their bye. So, um,

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S4: I think I'll be back. McKellar to turn it around and.

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S6: Look to that point. Can I make a can I

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S6: make a caveat on that in that I know I

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S6: just absolutely slammed him and slashed him and went to

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S6: town on him. I went to town on him so

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S6: hard because I expect so much more.

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S4: Correct.

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S6: Um, when you look at the quality of that squad

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S6: and look at all the things they've got going for them,

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S6: I think, you know, even so far, is if you

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S6: go and have a look at the injury list, I

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S6: think they've got the shortest injury. I think they've got

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S6: like 5 or 6 fellows on the injury list where

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S6: every other bugger has about, you know, eight, ten, 12. Um, uh,

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S6: so I'm disappointed. And I think it's a bad sign

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S6: because they should be capable of so much more.

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S4: Correct. Yeah. Um, they do have four pretty good ones

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S4: on their on their injured list. Gordon Sully Puccetti and

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S4: Fergus Lee Warner. Uh, Lucas Ripley has played a little

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S4: bit of Super Rugby. He's not a, um. You wouldn't

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S4: call him a super player yet. Um, yeah, but I'm

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S4: with you there. I mean, they have a proper international

408
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S4: front row. Bell. Porecki Tupou. Uh, you know, they are

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S4: proper international quality. Front row. Um, they're they're, um, you know,

410
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S4: they're Lucy's are very good, very, uh, you know, so

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S4: they they they should be better. It is potentially. It

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S4: is a cohesion thing with so many changes. They're quality players,

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S4: but with so many changes you just wonder whether they're

414
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S4: still gelling. Um, they've changed their ten for some reason.

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S4: I don't know why. Um, you know, they're they're sort of. Yeah.

416
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S4: I just I'm just going to go with bad sign.

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S4: A bad game and just hope they can go a

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S4: bit better, I hope. Having said that, I won't be

419
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S4: picking them this weekend. So let's let's hook into the game.

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S4: Shall we, gents? Let's talk to talk to the. Talk

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S4: to the teams. Um, okay. First game for the weekend.

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S4: We've got the Highlanders versus the. Oh, no, that's the

423
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S4: second game. Let's go back, go back, go back. First

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S4: game of the game. We've got Moana Pasifika versus the

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S4: Chiefs at the Navigation home stadium in Hawaii. I think

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S4: that's a great name for a stadium, isn't it? Eddie,

427
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S4: you get home from it. Um. Uh, for Pacifica. Uh,

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S4: no severe this week. Um, they've now got my favorite

429
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S4: Tongan player playing, uh, ten, Patrick Pellegrini. I believe he's

430
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S4: a Shute Shield boy. No, no. Um, Tamani Folau is

431
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S4: a fantastic winger. Playing for them. Playing for them. Um,

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S4: the Chiefs had the week off last week after the

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S4: loss to the drew of the week before, so they'll

434
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S4: be stinging. Um, they've got a really solid bench coming on.

435
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:58,109
S4: Tuku'aho Ratima. Josh. Jacob. Quenton. Tupaea. Uh jahrome. Brown. That's

436
00:23:58,109 --> 00:24:03,420
S4: a pretty strong finishing bench. Um, what do you think, Sally?

437
00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:04,380
S4: Are you going to pick?

438
00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:08,580
S5: I'm going with the I'm going with the ladder leaders,

439
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:12,630
S5: the Chiefs. But, um, uh, Pellegrini, I think he made

440
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:15,770
S5: a big difference for the Pasifika win last week and

441
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:19,520
S5: I think he's a great little player. So, um, I

442
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,139
S5: think they'll, they'll keep up for a while. But I

443
00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:23,840
S5: think the Chiefs are just too well drilled and too big.

444
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,430
S5: Too strong. Um, that's too good a team. I can't

445
00:24:28,430 --> 00:24:31,699
S5: see it going anyway, but the Chiefs by 10 to 15,

446
00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:33,350
S5: I'm thinking for me.

447
00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:36,080
S4: Yeah. No, no.

448
00:24:36,109 --> 00:24:40,460
S6: Your thoughts first versus last. Chiefs hands down could get

449
00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:41,389
S6: really ugly.

450
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:46,040
S4: Yeah agreed agreed. I think, um it could get ugly.

451
00:24:46,340 --> 00:24:50,000
S4: I mean, Mackenzie's back. Um, they've got some, you know,

452
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:52,550
S4: if they if they get to play with the house money,

453
00:24:52,550 --> 00:24:54,859
S4: the Chiefs, there's probably not a better team in the

454
00:24:54,859 --> 00:24:57,020
S4: comp when they when they get a bit of a lead,

455
00:24:57,020 --> 00:25:00,410
S4: they really put you away. Um, I say this from

456
00:25:00,410 --> 00:25:03,379
S4: about four weeks ago, so I think that's probably the

457
00:25:03,380 --> 00:25:06,020
S4: easiest game of the round to pick. Uh, and I'll

458
00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:08,900
S4: take the Chiefs by 15 to 20.

459
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:13,780
S5: Uh, I miss, I miss, uh, Marcus Pile Uh, the

460
00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:15,909
S5: other week is, is his second or third game. I

461
00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:19,510
S5: haven't can't remember him refereeing, but, um, be interesting to

462
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:21,940
S5: have a look at how he goes as well. Yeah.

463
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:28,720
S4: Absolutely. Sunday, 235. Highlanders versus the Reds at Forsyth Barr

464
00:25:28,750 --> 00:25:33,310
S4: in Dunedin. Uh, Highlanders have got the group for Kenny Mahu.

465
00:25:33,970 --> 00:25:42,220
S4: Odin Dunshea with the Vasaki, Broughton, Hastie, Kane Robertson, Timothy Barlow,

466
00:25:42,430 --> 00:25:50,619
S4: Thomas Umaga-jensen, Talia Talia, Caleb Rangatahi and Finn Hurley's back.

467
00:25:50,650 --> 00:25:53,740
S4: He cost me a lot of points in Super in

468
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,850
S4: Fantasy a couple of weeks ago, being a late scratching. Uh,

469
00:25:58,450 --> 00:26:00,700
S4: the Reds have changed a fair bit of their team

470
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:03,550
S4: from last week. They've got the front row for Darcy.

471
00:26:03,580 --> 00:26:08,350
S4: Must have passed his high. Uh asiata. Longo, Josh Cannon,

472
00:26:08,350 --> 00:26:11,820
S4: Angus Blythe in the row. Sarah Uru, John Bryant and

473
00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:15,810
S4: Torrie Wilson are on in the back row. Kehlani Thomas

474
00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:19,139
S4: gets a rare start at halfback. Tom Liner. Tim Ryan,

475
00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:25,380
S4: Hunter Paisami, Filipo Daugunu, Lockie Anderson and Jeremiah Murray. No, no.

476
00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:27,660
S4: Tell me where the Reds are going to win by

477
00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:28,230
S4: how much?

478
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,560
S6: Uh, yeah. I'm sorry, they're not, uh. I'm back in

479
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,570
S6: the clan on this one. Um, even allowing for the

480
00:26:36,570 --> 00:26:39,090
S6: travel factor in the home field advantage and whatever else,

481
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:44,760
S6: have a look at that Queensland injury list. Uh, no fares. Uh,

482
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,910
S6: no Mick, right? No Liam Wright? No Josh fluke. Um, yeah,

483
00:26:50,940 --> 00:26:56,400
S6: I can keep going. Um, yeah. There it. The Reds

484
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,510
S6: would have to be strong to beat the clan, and

485
00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:03,000
S6: they're not going to be away from home with that

486
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,139
S6: injury list. And they'll also, even though these guys are

487
00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:09,330
S6: supposed to be professional, we still have to call it

488
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,870
S6: what it is. There will be the the flat, the

489
00:27:12,869 --> 00:27:16,080
S6: flattening effect, the bounce. After such a big week weekend

490
00:27:16,109 --> 00:27:19,890
S6: last weekend against the tarts. Um, so yeah, I'm. I'm

491
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:21,330
S6: back in the clan on this one, lads.

492
00:27:24,270 --> 00:27:25,290
S5: How could he, darling?

493
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,700
S4: Tell me why he's wrong.

494
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,260
S5: I'm not sure if he is, actually, but I'm. I'm

495
00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:33,450
S5: going to back the Reds. Um, that is a big

496
00:27:33,450 --> 00:27:40,530
S5: injuries list, but I'm buoyed by Lukhan Salakaia-loto being back.

497
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,160
S5: I know that, um, Brian and Brian are great back

498
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,190
S5: rowers and are happy to have him there. Kalani Thomas

499
00:27:47,220 --> 00:27:51,000
S5: has really improved with his time in, um, New Zealand

500
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,600
S5: last year. I think he's a much better halfback. Uh,

501
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,660
S5: when he came back than when he left. Um, I

502
00:27:57,660 --> 00:27:59,670
S5: think the Reds are still a chance, but yes, it's

503
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240
S5: it's going to be a tough trip, I think. But, um,

504
00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:07,020
S5: I think they're they're a chance. They've still got a

505
00:28:07,020 --> 00:28:09,980
S5: good back row. Good second row. Good front row. It's the.

506
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:13,340
S5: It's the same back line for two weeks in a row,

507
00:28:13,369 --> 00:28:18,109
S5: which I don't think we've been able to do all year. So.

508
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,369
S5: So there you know, there is some there is some

509
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,409
S5: hope there. But as a Reds fan, I'm, um, I'm

510
00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:31,130
S5: going to pick the Reds, but I'm not confident. How

511
00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:32,150
S5: about you? Happy.

512
00:28:33,050 --> 00:28:35,689
S4: Mate? I am taking the Reds and I'm taking it

513
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:40,760
S4: with a with a sense of belief. Um, I think, um,

514
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:45,110
S4: Nongora is a vastly improved tighthead. Uh, Massimo de Luis

515
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:49,040
S4: is also a vastly improved from last year. Um, Luke

516
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,770
S4: comes back, I think up front. That's a very good

517
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:55,760
S4: forward pack. Uh, Josh Cannon's been playing very well. His

518
00:28:56,030 --> 00:29:00,680
S4: his line, his running of a lineout is, is really good. Uh,

519
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,580
S4: and he's just got a tremendous amount of athleticism about him. I,

520
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:07,990
S4: I really rate great colony. Thomas's parties worked very hard

521
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:12,850
S4: on that. Um, my biggest concern is in the back line, um,

522
00:29:13,810 --> 00:29:19,120
S4: particularly the back line replacements that, uh, Greg Pacquiao is

523
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,810
S4: only very, very new into it, just, you know, out

524
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,540
S4: out there. But, um, Murray is makes Tom, uh, Tom

525
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:31,959
S4: Wright like a, um, a steady player at times. You know,

526
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:34,420
S4: his chip and Chase try last week was the thing

527
00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:38,950
S4: of beauty. Um, but he's dropped a couple of absolute citizen,

528
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:42,700
S4: made some a couple of boneheaded calls. So, you know,

529
00:29:42,730 --> 00:29:46,840
S4: hopefully he's he's learned he's on an upward trajectory.

530
00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:48,370
S5: Um, that.

531
00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:48,610
S4: That.

532
00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:51,790
S5: Tom Chase was a thing of beauty. And it probably

533
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:54,610
S5: should have been brought up as a highlight because he

534
00:29:54,610 --> 00:29:57,700
S5: recognized that there was no fullback there and tipped. Yeah.

535
00:29:57,850 --> 00:30:01,330
S5: Tipped in behind. And that that's great vision. It needs

536
00:30:01,330 --> 00:30:02,920
S5: to be mentioned. Yeah.

537
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:06,340
S4: And and to his point, New South Wales should have

538
00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:08,410
S4: been a smarter team than that to recognize that there

539
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,310
S4: is off.

540
00:30:09,490 --> 00:30:12,610
S6: And that's it. It was it was a beautiful play,

541
00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:15,340
S6: but it should never have bloody well happened.

542
00:30:15,550 --> 00:30:16,210
S4: Yes.

543
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,150
S6: And I'm not talking about Kellaway getting his binning. I'm

544
00:30:19,180 --> 00:30:24,370
S6: talking about professional footballers falling into a two man pendulum

545
00:30:24,370 --> 00:30:26,320
S6: swing in the back field because, you know, you're short

546
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,140
S6: one of your back three. Like, come on, guys, this

547
00:30:29,140 --> 00:30:32,350
S6: is what you do for a living, lads, isn't it? Yeah.

548
00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:36,190
S4: Yeah. And even, um, even the French at the moment,

549
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:38,950
S4: they're all, they're operating on having 14 in the front

550
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:42,640
S4: line because their fullback is so good. They're backing him

551
00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:46,540
S4: to cover the space. Um, but yeah, he that's that

552
00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:48,850
S4: space should never have been there. But recognition that it

553
00:30:48,850 --> 00:30:50,650
S4: was there and making the play.

554
00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:51,580
S6: Absolutely.

555
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,610
S4: Considering he'd had a tough week the week before against

556
00:30:54,610 --> 00:30:59,380
S4: the Crusaders. Um, to have the, I guess, the minerals

557
00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:02,880
S4: to decide. No, it's on and having, I guess, the

558
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,970
S4: coaches backing to say if you see it, take it.

559
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:11,010
S4: Good on him. Yeah. Um, yeah. I for a rare occasion,

560
00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:12,540
S4: I think we're going down there. I think we'll, I

561
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:15,990
S4: think we can beat them up. Up front. Um, John

562
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:18,660
S4: Bryant is a good player. Like, he played half a

563
00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:22,350
S4: dozen games last year, and he's only young. He's 21.

564
00:31:22,350 --> 00:31:26,880
S4: Just just graduated out of the under 20s. So he's

565
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,370
S4: a good player. Can play six or 7 or 8.

566
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:32,969
S5: He's a very different player than Fraser McBride though isn't he.

567
00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:38,580
S4: Yeah, but but honestly there's he. Fraser McBride in my

568
00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:42,420
S4: view is the best linking um flanker in the world

569
00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:46,320
S4: like 12th turnover and you know finding space going forward.

570
00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:49,200
S6: Um I have to think about that.

571
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:51,300
S4: Well name me a better one.

572
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:53,580
S6: Yeah I know, yeah. So I was just thinking I'd

573
00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:57,420
S6: have to. Yeah, it's funny because it.

574
00:31:57,420 --> 00:31:59,490
S4: Still does a lot of the tough stuff, but you know,

575
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:00,060
S4: and he.

576
00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:00,470
S6: And I know.

577
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,880
S4: He's not over the ball. Like, not many people were, but, um.

578
00:32:04,910 --> 00:32:06,050
S6: No. He's been.

579
00:32:06,410 --> 00:32:09,380
S4: Yeah, but that ball in, you know, transition ball and

580
00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:13,310
S4: link play, you got to go back a long way

581
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:15,320
S4: to think of someone who's who's better.

582
00:32:15,740 --> 00:32:18,800
S6: Yeah that's right. The benchmark in terms of the linking

583
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,350
S6: back rower who could do it all and link you

584
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:25,310
S6: know the benchmark will always be Smith. Correct. Um, in

585
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:29,450
S6: terms of, you know, the single best ball stealer I

586
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:34,160
S6: think I'll ever see in my life, hands down. Pocock. Mm. Um,

587
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:38,450
S6: but just in terms of open sides at the moment,

588
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,580
S6: who can link? I'm not coming up with a better one. Not.

589
00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:45,950
S6: Not for an open side who can link. I'm not

590
00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:46,880
S6: coming up with a better one.

591
00:32:46,910 --> 00:32:50,960
S4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I'm taking the Reds. Let's move

592
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400
S4: on to the next game. Um, the Blues and the Crusaders.

593
00:32:55,610 --> 00:32:57,980
S4: This is going to be a cracker, to be honest. Yeah,

594
00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:03,490
S4: Blues need this hard. And it's at Eden Park. Um,

595
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,700
S4: they've also got a little bit of the injury curse, but, uh,

596
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:10,540
S4: their team is, uh, Pusi Tua Kurt Eklund because Rick

597
00:33:10,660 --> 00:33:15,910
S4: Kelly is out. Uh, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu. Uh, Josh burger,

598
00:33:15,970 --> 00:33:21,580
S4: cam Christie, Dalton papalii. Hoskins Sotutu back from injury Sam Nock,

599
00:33:22,030 --> 00:33:28,750
S4: uh Stephen Perofeta, Caleb Clarke, Xavier Talei, Rica McCullough and

600
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:34,720
S4: Corey Evans. The site is Tamati Williams, Codie Taylor, Samuel uh,

601
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:41,230
S4: Scott Barrett, Antonio Salazar. Often you get that right. I'll

602
00:33:41,230 --> 00:33:45,700
S4: think about that next week. Cullen. Grace, Tom Christie, Christian Lowry,

603
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:53,590
S4: Karl Preston. Uh takamaru. Sarah Savage, David Bailey, Dallas McLeod,

604
00:33:53,620 --> 00:34:02,590
S4: Jay Funaki, and Will Jordan. Um, referees. My favorite, James Dahlman. The.

605
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
S4: What do you think? Selling game of the round? Probably.

606
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,570
S5: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a cracker. Um, just

607
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:17,590
S5: looking through the injuries. Uh, Ethan Blackadder has gone. Um. Quinten.

608
00:34:17,590 --> 00:34:24,820
S5: Strange out. Noah Hotham out. Oh, no. Both back. Sorry. Um.

609
00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:30,670
S5: Crusaders are quietly just snuck into second place, haven't they?

610
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:34,210
S5: Like it's just. Yeah, we just had that one year

611
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:36,670
S5: without them. Yeah. And it was. We all had a

612
00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:38,950
S5: bit of fun and now they're back annoying the crap

613
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:48,760
S5: out of us again. Um, the blues have struggled. They've got, um. Yeah, mate,

614
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,640
S5: I think I'm going with the Crusaders. Even with Hoskins

615
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:57,720
S5: Sotutu back, uh, which makes their forward pack a lot better. Um,

616
00:34:58,650 --> 00:35:01,740
S5: I think Crusaders are just in red hot form, and

617
00:35:01,739 --> 00:35:06,060
S5: they're going to roll over the top of them. Yep.

618
00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:07,290
S5: Crusaders for me?

619
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:10,320
S4: Yeah. Not at Eden Park. What do you think.

620
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:16,380
S6: Crewe? Uh, second plays ninth. Um, so therefore, the crew,

621
00:35:16,410 --> 00:35:18,570
S6: if you have a look at, uh, at the Blues

622
00:35:18,570 --> 00:35:21,210
S6: injury list, you've got a dozen guys there, of which

623
00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:23,610
S6: ten would be walk up starters for just about any

624
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:26,910
S6: other side in the competition. So they've got serious firepower

625
00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:31,170
S6: not playing. Um, yeah. The crew are just going to

626
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:35,250
S6: get better and better from this point. Uh, I'm actually.

627
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,890
S6: I can't even believe I'm saying this. I'm going to

628
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,310
S6: enjoy watching the ruthlessness of which they're going to play

629
00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:43,739
S6: the rest of the season. They're going to be something to,

630
00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:46,319
S6: you know, put aside your personal preferences, just sit back

631
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,609
S6: and watch them. They're going to be great to watch

632
00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:51,120
S6: for the rest of the year. Um, so. Yep. Crewe. Mm.

633
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:56,390
S4: Yeah, it's going to be it's the blues are going

634
00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:59,750
S4: to come out and be absolutely snorting fire because this

635
00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:03,500
S4: is an inflection game for them. They've got, they've they

636
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,140
S4: haven't had their bye. So they're five and one. If

637
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:08,360
S4: they lose this they're six and one. And I'm tipping

638
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,969
S4: I am tipping the Crusaders as well. But six and

639
00:36:10,969 --> 00:36:15,770
S4: one suddenly they'll be sitting in ninth. But potentially they

640
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:18,830
S4: could be sitting in ninth already a couple of games

641
00:36:18,830 --> 00:36:22,339
S4: out with their bye to come. So suddenly it starts

642
00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:24,500
S4: to get a little bit more pressure on them to

643
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:27,319
S4: just try and make the six, let alone, you know,

644
00:36:27,350 --> 00:36:30,230
S4: getting home finals and all those sorts of things. They're

645
00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:34,610
S4: sort of they're sitting a fair way back. Um, this

646
00:36:34,610 --> 00:36:37,970
S4: will be this will be a game that they, they

647
00:36:37,969 --> 00:36:41,029
S4: absolutely need. And I think they'll come out giving it

648
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:45,020
S4: absolutely everything, as you'd expect. But, um, yeah, I just

649
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:48,620
S4: think the, the Crusaders are back into, you know, doing

650
00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:52,780
S4: SATA things, you know, um, that matter. Springer scored five

651
00:36:52,810 --> 00:36:55,000
S4: tries last week. They've stuck him back on the bench.

652
00:36:55,450 --> 00:36:55,719
S6: Mm.

653
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,440
S5: Yeah.

654
00:36:56,469 --> 00:37:00,400
S4: Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, mate. You're still back on the bench. Like.

655
00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:02,830
S4: Well done. Congratulations.

656
00:37:03,010 --> 00:37:05,650
S5: I think the Blues have got the biggest injury injury

657
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:08,830
S5: list in the whole comp, I think. Like, they got like,

658
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:15,670
S5: Zarn Sullivan, Beauden Barrett, um, funaki riccitelli toga toga fassi,

659
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:19,090
S5: Sam Darry, AJ lam. Like, there's some big names in

660
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,359
S5: there on the injury list. It's massive. Yeah. Yeah.

661
00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:24,070
S6: And quality too. Yeah.

662
00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:27,939
S4: Yeah. And that's that's that's my thing with injuries. You

663
00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:31,000
S4: you look for them being in a cluster of position.

664
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,760
S4: So you know, you lose all your centres or whatever

665
00:37:33,790 --> 00:37:36,189
S4: or where you, you look down them and you go,

666
00:37:36,219 --> 00:37:39,400
S4: I recognize all of those names, you know. Yeah. Or

667
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,600
S4: being or being very good rugby players. Uh, and when you,

668
00:37:43,630 --> 00:37:45,460
S4: when you do that, then you know that you're starting

669
00:37:45,489 --> 00:37:47,950
S4: to get into the, the back end of the squad,

670
00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:50,680
S4: you know, things start to get a bit a bit tougher.

671
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:56,350
S4: You know, you look at you look at the relative benches. Um, like,

672
00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:59,920
S4: apart from Christy and Harry Plummer are the only two

673
00:38:00,219 --> 00:38:03,790
S4: bench players of the Blues that I know. And then

674
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:07,900
S4: on the replacements for the, um, uh, for the sides,

675
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:11,740
S4: you've got Quinton Bower, Quinton Strange, uh, Noah Houghton, who

676
00:38:11,739 --> 00:38:14,620
S4: we all know, James O'Connor, we all know, and some

677
00:38:14,620 --> 00:38:18,489
S4: bloke who scored five tries last week. So you know

678
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,620
S4: that I think that they'll just have a bit too

679
00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:21,160
S4: much for them.

680
00:38:21,850 --> 00:38:22,750
S6: Yeah, that'll be right.

681
00:38:23,230 --> 00:38:25,660
S4: Next one along. I think we all know where nutters

682
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:31,509
S4: going with this one. The the tars v the Brums uh,

683
00:38:31,510 --> 00:38:35,920
S4: in Sydney, uh Waratahs have named a very strong team,

684
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,150
S4: being Angus Bell, David Porecki, Taniela Tupou, Hugh Sinclair, Ben Grant,

685
00:38:40,180 --> 00:38:46,120
S4: Rob gamble, Langi Gleeson, Teddy Wilson, Lawson Crichton, Mac Jorgensen,

686
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,000
S4: Joey Walton, William Henry O'Donnell, Christopher Riley, and Andrew Kellaway.

687
00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,030
S4: Isaac Caleb comes back to the bench, which is nice

688
00:38:54,030 --> 00:38:56,880
S4: to see. I'll be interested to see how he goes. Um,

689
00:38:56,910 --> 00:39:01,620
S4: the Brumbies are rolling out the big squad this week. Uh,

690
00:39:01,650 --> 00:39:05,370
S4: James Slipper, Billy Pollard, Allan Alaalatoa, Nick Frost, Cade Neville,

691
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,910
S4: Tom Hooper, Luke Graham and Rob Valentini returns from injury

692
00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:13,950
S4: Ryan Lonergan, Noah SEO, Corey Toole, Ollie Sapsford, Andy Muirhead

693
00:39:13,950 --> 00:39:18,870
S4: and Tom Wright off the bench. Locky Lonergan, Blake shop,

694
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:25,320
S4: Toica uh Lachlan Shaw, Rory Scott, Harrison Goddard, Jack Debreceni

695
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:31,920
S4: and Austin Anderson and Bok is the ref. Just before

696
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200
S4: I ask you the question, you you watched a lot

697
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:36,360
S4: of watch a lot of rugby now do you think

698
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,940
S4: box out of out of form at the moment. Not

699
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:40,440
S4: saying he's a bad ref, I just feel he's a

700
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,910
S4: bit he's not quite there.

701
00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:47,509
S6: Yeah. Um. Interesting question. Um.

702
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,870
S4: Because referees obviously go through form.

703
00:39:51,710 --> 00:39:56,150
S6: Yeah. Of course. Um, I've never been a fan of

704
00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:59,450
S6: Ben O'Keeffe. Uh, so I sort of have to be

705
00:39:59,450 --> 00:40:01,310
S6: careful that I don't say. Well, the bloke never has

706
00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:06,980
S6: good form. Um, the, um, the breakdown will be a mess, uh,

707
00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:12,319
S6: which will favour the donkeys. So I'm sort of happy. Um, yeah.

708
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,580
S6: He's he's a I don't know if he's out of

709
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:18,380
S6: form or if I just don't think much of him

710
00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:21,080
S6: as a referee. Uh, which I know is probably a

711
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,330
S6: cruel thing to say, but I don't see him as

712
00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:27,020
S6: playing the deciding factor this week. I'll put it that way. Mm.

713
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,800
S4: Okay. Um, and tell me, why are you picking the Brumbies? Uh,

714
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,000
S4: apart from being a fan.

715
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:38,509
S6: The front rows will cancel each other out the. Because

716
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:41,900
S6: they're both very good front rowers, but for very different reasons. Uh,

717
00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:46,160
S6: the Brumbies have better locks. They have smarter locks. The, um.

718
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:50,630
S6: I would pick the donkey back row over the water

719
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:53,960
S6: back row, and they've got a much more settled back line.

720
00:40:54,050 --> 00:41:00,140
S6: The issue, I think, for the Waratahs will actually be emotional. Um,

721
00:41:00,170 --> 00:41:04,100
S6: guys like Tupou and guys like Langi, Gleeson and guys

722
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:07,160
S6: like Leota are going to come out and try and

723
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,400
S6: smash bricks out of grandstands, like they're really going to

724
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:16,310
S6: come out looking for blood, and that's going to undo them. Um, uh,

725
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,460
S6: I think there's some emotional immaturity issues there that will

726
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:27,080
S6: need to be very closely managed by the Waratahs coaching staff,

727
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,700
S6: or else their enthusiasm is going to be over enthusiasm

728
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,239
S6: and bring themselves unstuck. Even leaving aside the fact that

729
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,040
S6: I just think the Brumbies are a better side and

730
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,960
S6: will beat them anyway. Yeah.

731
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:43,210
S4: That's an interesting point because those guys, particularly some of

732
00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:46,540
S4: those type forwards, will they? Let's be honest, their coach

733
00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:47,920
S4: called them soft last week.

734
00:41:47,950 --> 00:41:48,549
S6: Yep.

735
00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:50,080
S4: He actually called them soft.

736
00:41:50,110 --> 00:41:51,190
S6: And they were.

737
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:55,360
S4: Yeah. So the natural reaction to that is to overreact,

738
00:41:55,390 --> 00:41:56,950
S4: be a bit overreact for the next game.

739
00:41:56,980 --> 00:41:59,290
S6: Right. They're going to play. Who's going to swing too

740
00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:00,370
S6: far the other way.

741
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,800
S4: Yeah yeah. So yeah you absolutely excellent point. Keeping a

742
00:42:05,830 --> 00:42:07,899
S4: lid on things is going to be tough for them.

743
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,719
S6: Yeah it's it's it's not going to be hard to

744
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:12,489
S6: get these blokes up for a game. What's going to

745
00:42:12,489 --> 00:42:14,230
S6: be hard is keeping them on a leash.

746
00:42:14,650 --> 00:42:20,529
S4: Yes. Yeah. Correct. And yeah the there's a lot of

747
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:23,469
S4: experience in the in the Brumbies front row to sort

748
00:42:23,469 --> 00:42:26,259
S4: of to, to give them a bit of a wind.

749
00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:28,120
S6: That's it. So the donkeys are just going to go

750
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,620
S6: out there and give a couple of shots in the

751
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:32,080
S6: kidneys and slide a few fingers under a few ribs.

752
00:42:32,110 --> 00:42:34,420
S6: They're going to pull plenty of penalties out of them.

753
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,930
S6: Um no bang a few three pointers, set up a buffer,

754
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:39,880
S6: and then and then we'll just start to maul a

755
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,870
S6: few line outs and see how they go against that mall. Mm.

756
00:42:44,250 --> 00:42:45,510
S4: Sally. Your thoughts?

757
00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:51,060
S5: Uh, yeah. This this is the Brumbies big gun pack,

758
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:53,790
S5: isn't it? It's a heavy pack. They roll out against

759
00:42:53,790 --> 00:42:56,910
S5: the Blues and the. And the bigger teams. They put

760
00:42:56,940 --> 00:42:59,670
S5: Neville and and Frost in the second row together and

761
00:42:59,670 --> 00:43:03,660
S5: Hooper at blindside. So they got three big boppers in that.

762
00:43:03,690 --> 00:43:08,940
S5: In that four pack they're basically three second rowers. Um mate.

763
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:14,310
S5: Uh they're either equal or better all across the park

764
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:17,250
S5: as far as I'm concerned. So for me yeah it's

765
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:20,340
S5: a Brumbies win. Even even traveling down the highway to

766
00:43:20,370 --> 00:43:24,989
S5: to Sydney it's a Brumbies win. Uh they're to me

767
00:43:24,989 --> 00:43:30,299
S5: their um their bench looks better. Yeah I'm happy to

768
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:31,920
S5: pick the Brumbies on this one. I couldn't give you

769
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,060
S5: a number say about ten. Well it could go the

770
00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:38,989
S5: same way as the Reds game last week. See how

771
00:43:38,989 --> 00:43:42,020
S5: it goes. Yeah, but I agree with another with that.

772
00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:45,290
S5: With those guys getting singled out last weekend for being soft.

773
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,109
S5: There'll be some guys out there too, because Liotta was

774
00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:52,430
S5: was quiet. Tupo was quiet. Yeah. Gleason came off the

775
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:55,970
S5: bench last week, so he was already already came on

776
00:43:55,969 --> 00:43:59,300
S5: when the Rock was had snuck in. But, uh, I

777
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:04,640
S5: think the Waratahs are going to travel. Just, just they're

778
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,940
S5: just going to have trouble with the halves and whether

779
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:11,209
S5: they're running at the moment and um, and the full

780
00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:13,190
S5: back's just not going to aim up. Yeah.

781
00:44:13,219 --> 00:44:17,600
S4: Yeah yeah I'm going to take I will take the Brumbies. Uh,

782
00:44:17,810 --> 00:44:20,360
S4: this is also a very important game for them, because

783
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:24,620
S4: they are one of only two teams in the, uh,

784
00:44:25,460 --> 00:44:29,600
S4: in the top six who've played five. So if they,

785
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,270
S4: they've still got their bike to go. So they, you know,

786
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:37,040
S4: they've still got that natural no point week coming up. uh,

787
00:44:37,489 --> 00:44:39,710
S4: but I just think the Brumbies will have too much

788
00:44:39,739 --> 00:44:44,000
S4: for them. And circling right back to the bad game.

789
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,410
S4: Bad side thing. The Brumbies are a winning culture. They

790
00:44:48,410 --> 00:44:52,640
S4: know how to win. The Brumbies you know are the

791
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,759
S4: Australian you know crusader like you know they they know

792
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,620
S4: how to win. They don't quite manage to get the

793
00:44:57,620 --> 00:45:00,410
S4: final thing done. But if you're a Brumbies fan you

794
00:45:00,410 --> 00:45:03,589
S4: know that your team has a history of going out

795
00:45:03,590 --> 00:45:09,680
S4: and not screwing it up. Um, as a Queensland fan,

796
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:15,050
S4: I cannot relate to that. But, uh. But, um, yeah,

797
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:17,569
S4: that's just I just think they'll they'll just have a

798
00:45:17,570 --> 00:45:21,590
S4: little bit too much polish. Uh, they're they're, you know,

799
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:25,520
S4: Len Ikitau is in some form, uh, Andy Muirhead is

800
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,259
S4: a tremendous Super Rugby player. Uh oh. I've always wondered

801
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:34,040
S4: why he never really got a chance in the gold jersey. Um,

802
00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:36,399
S4: I don't know why. I just think he. It's because

803
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,330
S4: he doesn't look like, you know, a Greek Adonis. He

804
00:45:40,330 --> 00:45:42,009
S4: kind of looks a bit like a mack Hansen, if

805
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,150
S4: you're going to use the use that term. Um, very

806
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:47,230
S4: good rugby player, but.

807
00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:49,030
S5: I reckon if he. He got rid of the man

808
00:45:49,060 --> 00:45:53,170
S5: bun and put on a scrum cap, he'd be a wallaby.

809
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,960
S4: He'd be a wallaby. Yeah. There you go. You heard

810
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,830
S4: it here first.

811
00:45:56,860 --> 00:46:03,310
S6: I reckon we're stuck. Is he? He's not big or fast.

812
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:04,150
S4: Yeah.

813
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,610
S6: So there's there's a number of blokes who are quicker

814
00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:08,200
S6: than him, and there are plenty of blokes who are

815
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,120
S6: bigger than him, so he doesn't really own one of

816
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,480
S6: those two things. Um. The one I'm disappointed for. The

817
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,480
S6: one I feel really sorry for, both for him, but

818
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,880
S6: also for Australian rugby fans, particularly with the British and

819
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,120
S6: Irish Lions. Coming up is Bloody Charlie Cahill is back

820
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,480
S6: on the long term injured list. Yeah. Um, with that

821
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,020
S6: back issue, I'm really disappointed for him. Uh, and I'm

822
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,810
S6: selfishly disappointed for us because, jeez, he's been playing some

823
00:46:31,810 --> 00:46:33,030
S6: good footy. I think.

824
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:38,580
S4: He has. He absolutely has. He's, um. Yeah. And a bat,

825
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:40,770
S4: like they took him off last week. Just saying it

826
00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:43,350
S4: was a back spasm. And now he's just, you know,

827
00:46:43,380 --> 00:46:45,780
S4: he's back at some point in the future. They haven't

828
00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:50,280
S4: specified a time, a date or time. So, um, you

829
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,070
S4: can only hope that's not something debilitating that could shorten

830
00:46:53,070 --> 00:46:54,930
S4: your career or do that sort of stuff.

831
00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:57,870
S5: But but they have said long term though, haven't they?

832
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:58,739
S4: Yeah. They have said.

833
00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:03,180
S6: On the on the Super Rugby side in the long term.

834
00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:07,770
S4: Yeah. Yeah. So so we're all we're all in agreement.

835
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,190
S4: It's it's pretty simple. Um the Brumbies are going to

836
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:16,350
S4: win just because they are. Um this is also a

837
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,110
S4: sneaky good really good game for the week. The last

838
00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:22,890
S4: one Western force v the draw in Perth. Uh the

839
00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:25,950
S4: force Ryan Cox and Nick Dolly, Todd Robertson, Jeremy Williams,

840
00:47:25,980 --> 00:47:30,120
S4: Darcy Swain, will Harris, Carlo Tizzano, Nick champion, the back.

841
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:34,009
S4: Nick white, What then? Donald's back. Dylan is back and

842
00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:39,500
S4: Stuart's back, said Tomkinson. Harry Potter, Matt Greeley, um, my

843
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:41,780
S4: favorite prop for the year so far. Marley Pearce is

844
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:46,430
S4: on the bench. Um, he's been awesome for certain. I

845
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:48,410
S4: don't know if you guys play fantasy. He's one of

846
00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:49,880
S4: the best props in fantasy.

847
00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:53,120
S6: All right. Okay. He would be, actually. Yeah.

848
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:55,250
S4: He gets you great points. They obviously go to him

849
00:47:55,250 --> 00:48:00,050
S4: a lot for runs. Um, the, um, draw of playing

850
00:48:00,050 --> 00:48:06,230
S4: in kind of era, uh, which is for him, can

851
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:11,210
S4: always go either way with him. Caleb Munster, starting at ten. Uh,

852
00:48:11,450 --> 00:48:18,020
S4: draw at fullback. Um, putting out a fairly strong team.

853
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:24,140
S4: Nick Berry's the ref. Um, coach Sully, what are you thinking?

854
00:48:25,610 --> 00:48:30,350
S5: I think you should name all those draw players. No. No, seriously. Um.

855
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:32,210
S4: Okay.

856
00:48:33,739 --> 00:48:34,069
S5: No, no.

857
00:48:34,610 --> 00:48:35,390
S4: No. Just get.

858
00:48:35,390 --> 00:48:36,469
S6: Away. Stop!

859
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080
S4: Hey, I could get most of the way through that.

860
00:48:39,110 --> 00:48:41,120
S6: We get we're going to have an international incident if

861
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,260
S6: you keep going. Stop.

862
00:48:42,860 --> 00:48:43,160
S4: Uh.

863
00:48:45,110 --> 00:48:47,600
S5: Uh, force of the Scotland of Australia, aren't they? Like

864
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:51,440
S5: they grow an arm and a leg when they're in,

865
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,049
S5: when they're at home. So, um, and and it's a

866
00:48:54,050 --> 00:48:57,020
S5: good team. It's, it's they've got their, they got their

867
00:48:57,020 --> 00:49:01,160
S5: guys back from their rest week. Um, it's it's probably

868
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,120
S5: just about their best run on side. I don't know

869
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,830
S5: who's really missing from that. Uh, and the Drua don't

870
00:49:09,860 --> 00:49:14,270
S5: travel well, traditionally. I think they're going a bit better

871
00:49:14,270 --> 00:49:17,750
S5: this year, but they're still not winning away. So I

872
00:49:17,750 --> 00:49:19,880
S5: think the trip over to Western Australia is going to

873
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,640
S5: be too far for them. And the force should take this,

874
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,090
S5: and I think they'll probably take it reasonably easily. But

875
00:49:26,090 --> 00:49:30,730
S5: it's hard to say which endure. Turns up they could

876
00:49:30,730 --> 00:49:34,510
S5: have a blinder. You never know. But I think it's

877
00:49:34,510 --> 00:49:36,220
S5: either going to be close or blow out to the

878
00:49:36,219 --> 00:49:37,270
S5: force for me.

879
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:41,200
S4: Now, what are you thinking, my friend?

880
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,219
S6: Uh, it's going to be 31 degrees with low humidity

881
00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:49,900
S6: and not much wind, so it's going to be pretty warm. Uh,

882
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:52,780
S6: but it's going to be a lovely day. There won't

883
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:55,330
S6: be any heavy rain. It won't, you know, turn to

884
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,239
S6: slush and or be really, really humid. Which would play

885
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,490
S6: to the druids, uh, advantage. So taking that out of it,

886
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:09,279
S6: Druids can't travel. Um, the forces need a good win

887
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,090
S6: after what they took emotionally last weekend. They're putting out

888
00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:18,160
S6: a really strong side. Um, uh, and particularly when you

889
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,030
S6: look at their, um, when you look, you know, through their,

890
00:50:22,210 --> 00:50:26,010
S6: through their back line, through their centers of Ducky Donaldson,

891
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,400
S6: Jamie Stewart. Um, you know how Harry Potter running around

892
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,570
S6: out there, Matt Greeley? Uh, yeah. Dylan, push back on there. Um, yeah.

893
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,550
S6: The force is needed there at home. The weather will

894
00:50:35,580 --> 00:50:39,060
S6: be right. Uh, and the druids can't travel, so the

895
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:43,169
S6: magicians can't travel. The poor buggers. So. Yeah. Force is up. Mm.

896
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:49,320
S4: Yeah, I, I said last week, uh, that, uh, the

897
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,790
S4: Druids can't win down the street from Churchill Park, and

898
00:50:53,790 --> 00:50:56,580
S4: I stand by that statement. I also said that until

899
00:50:56,580 --> 00:50:58,860
S4: they prove that they can, I won't pick them. And

900
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:01,260
S4: for no other reason than that I'll be picking the force.

901
00:51:01,260 --> 00:51:04,170
S4: So I think the force are, you know, a substantially

902
00:51:04,170 --> 00:51:07,200
S4: better team at home, uh, or with the team they're

903
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,290
S4: putting out this week. I don't I think I wasn't

904
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,380
S4: as disappointed as it could have been with what they

905
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:16,110
S4: put out last week with the, uh, put on the

906
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:19,110
S4: park with the ciders. I thought they battled manfully. It

907
00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:23,340
S4: was a good sign. Um, yeah. I just think the.

908
00:51:23,340 --> 00:51:27,160
S4: The forces are, uh, are a good are a good

909
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,790
S4: team and obviously a much better team at home. Um,

910
00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:34,960
S4: to your point. Nice day. Yeah, I just I just

911
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,930
S4: can't see the can't see the draw doing anything spectacular.

912
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,830
S4: They just don't seem to have that capacity. Uh, away from, uh,

913
00:51:41,830 --> 00:51:45,460
S4: away from Fiji. Well, they still do spectacular things. I

914
00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:48,610
S4: just don't think they do the hard things away. Um,

915
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,670
S4: that's that's where I'm at with it. Okay. Well, we're

916
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:59,230
S4: through all the games, gents. In reasonably good time. Uh,

917
00:51:59,260 --> 00:52:01,750
S4: now's the time to gird your loins and have a

918
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:04,690
S4: bit of a shout at the clouds. What do you.

919
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,540
S4: What bugged you? What annoyed you? What pissed you off?

920
00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:12,190
S4: What got you on your goat this week? Sally, go.

921
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:15,969
S5: Okay, I'm going to do something a bit different. Um,

922
00:52:16,989 --> 00:52:20,020
S5: this week I had my fifth colonoscopy because I have

923
00:52:20,020 --> 00:52:24,530
S5: a family history of cancer in the pipeworks. So it

924
00:52:24,530 --> 00:52:28,460
S5: pisses me off that guys don't look after their health. Mate,

925
00:52:28,460 --> 00:52:31,100
S5: go out there, go get some blood tests, get your

926
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:34,910
S5: PSA read, make sure you're all right. Because I've lost

927
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:40,100
S5: two uncles to bowel cancer. Prostate cancer? My father's had

928
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:44,480
S5: prostate cancer. It's everywhere. Guys, go and get checked. Um,

929
00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:46,520
S5: you don't have to. It's a simple blood test to

930
00:52:46,550 --> 00:52:49,279
S5: start off with. And if the results come back crazy,

931
00:52:49,610 --> 00:52:52,340
S5: then you have to. Then you should go get the

932
00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:59,810
S5: get the the the filming in the pipework. But, um. Yeah,

933
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,870
S5: that's what I get angry about. People dying when they

934
00:53:02,870 --> 00:53:06,860
S5: don't have to. So seriously, go out and get yourself checked, guys.

935
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,690
S4: Hundred percent. I don't think anyone could say anything negative

936
00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:19,310
S4: about that. Now, did anything annoy you, rugby wise or otherwise,

937
00:53:19,310 --> 00:53:19,729
S4: this week?

938
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:23,920
S6: Yeah. Rugby was. I'm still processing what Sally said.

939
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,219
S5: Look.

940
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:28,240
S6: Fantastic. Um. Fantastic message. It just took me by surprise.

941
00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:31,870
S6: You're completely right. Um, look, in terms of a rugby thing,

942
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,330
S6: I am a bit of clouds. I'm a bit aggravated,

943
00:53:34,330 --> 00:53:38,259
S6: which I'm sure surprises a lot of people. Um, we

944
00:53:38,260 --> 00:53:45,040
S6: have a law in rugby. Uh, law 9.7. C. No

945
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,830
S6: player may do anything that may lead the match officials

946
00:53:47,830 --> 00:53:51,220
S6: to consider that an opponent has committed an infringement. I

947
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:55,089
S6: am sick to bloody death of the diving that I'm

948
00:53:55,090 --> 00:54:00,010
S6: seeing at the moment. Um, uh, for me, um, this

949
00:54:00,010 --> 00:54:05,410
S6: goes back a long way, but just in recent memory. Um, 2021, um,

950
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,580
S6: captain of France, Anthony Jelonch. Uh, and his dive, uh,

951
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:13,120
S6: to Marika Koroibete to get him carded. Um, even World

952
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,839
S6: Rugby came out after that and said that was a dive. Uh, 2023,

953
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:20,700
S6: you've got Jack Reilly. Ireland's Jack Crowley's now infamous dive

954
00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:24,629
S6: against Argentina that got Matias Moroni carded. Uh, two weeks

955
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:30,540
S6: ago we saw um Ex-france international Romain Briatte from Stade,

956
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:33,750
S6: France Francais, uh, take his, you know, over the top

957
00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:37,350
S6: theatrical effort uh, to get will uh Will Skelton red

958
00:54:37,350 --> 00:54:42,510
S6: carded uh long week. Last weekend we saw uh Fijian

959
00:54:42,510 --> 00:54:47,730
S6: player um uh Logan Amartey uh actually run five meters

960
00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:52,890
S6: past Tom Wright. He took four paces past Tom Wright, uh,

961
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:56,910
S6: before he commenced his dying swan routine. Um, uh, to

962
00:54:56,940 --> 00:55:01,890
S6: get right um, uh, in trouble with the boss. Um,

963
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,010
S6: I'm well and truly jack of it. Uh, and I

964
00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:07,260
S6: think World Rugby needs to really step in and do

965
00:55:07,260 --> 00:55:10,440
S6: something about this. At the same time, though, I'm also

966
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,220
S6: conscious that I'm also equally as tired as watching every

967
00:55:14,250 --> 00:55:17,009
S6: captain and just about every player on both sides, particularly

968
00:55:17,010 --> 00:55:19,650
S6: in the Six Nations. Go up and protest to the

969
00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:24,750
S6: referee about every blade of grass that turned against them.

970
00:55:25,350 --> 00:55:28,650
S6: So I'm getting really tired of the playacting and the

971
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:33,390
S6: crying out and the garbage. Um, I'm actually to the

972
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:37,980
S6: point where I would even consider taking a leaf out

973
00:55:37,980 --> 00:55:44,160
S6: of the Mungo's book and allowing a captain's challenge. Uh,

974
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:49,650
S6: I would allow probably one or maybe one per half, uh,

975
00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:52,259
S6: where a captain may walk up to a referee and

976
00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:57,000
S6: request a review of a foul play situation. And that's that.

977
00:55:57,030 --> 00:56:02,100
S6: If there is any comment, any whine, any whinge, any. Oh, sir,

978
00:56:02,130 --> 00:56:04,770
S6: any throwing of the arms in the air or theatrical

979
00:56:04,770 --> 00:56:07,410
S6: diving left, right or center by anyone else from that

980
00:56:07,410 --> 00:56:12,090
S6: point forward card the bugger. Get rid of them. Because

981
00:56:12,090 --> 00:56:14,930
S6: this is soccer garbage that does not belong in our

982
00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:19,550
S6: game and I'm seeing too much of it. Anyway, that's my.

983
00:56:20,570 --> 00:56:24,980
S4: Book. Um, in response to that, I think that's that's fair.

984
00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:27,440
S4: I think the the Super Rugby seem to be doing it. Okay.

985
00:56:27,469 --> 00:56:29,299
S4: I mean, there was a there was a high tackle

986
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:34,100
S4: in the game, uh, between the canes and the Highlanders

987
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,290
S4: that was missed right at the end and it was

988
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:40,279
S4: pretty clear high tackle. But, uh, they explained it that

989
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,739
S4: the TMO didn't think that it rose to the level

990
00:56:42,739 --> 00:56:46,190
S4: of a yellow card, and therefore it was just play on. I,

991
00:56:46,219 --> 00:56:49,580
S4: I'm kind of, you know, a little bit and I

992
00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:51,350
S4: know it can never happen again, but I'm kind of

993
00:56:51,350 --> 00:56:55,040
S4: nostalgic and that's why I love watching community games is

994
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,370
S4: because the referee makes a decision good, bad or indifferent.

995
00:56:58,460 --> 00:56:59,690
S4: And it's play on.

996
00:56:59,810 --> 00:57:02,120
S6: Six, five, eight, four, six, five, eight. Get on with it.

997
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:06,380
S4: Yeah. Correct. And and look, I've seen some absolute hell

998
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:09,830
S4: as at community level. But you know what recently sets

999
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:12,320
S4: the scrum. He does whatever he does. And the game

1000
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,140
S4: just moves on. And because the game moves on, you're

1001
00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:18,190
S4: not constantly going back and rehashing all this stuff. Yeah.

1002
00:57:18,220 --> 00:57:22,420
S4: And it stops the diving. You know, people are always going, oh, so,

1003
00:57:22,450 --> 00:57:24,400
S4: you know, like I was I'm over the ball or

1004
00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:26,950
S4: making appealing when they think their team is on it.

1005
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:32,020
S4: But um, there's generally just this flow. Uh, and that's

1006
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:34,660
S4: what I'm enjoying about Super Rugby this year. They just

1007
00:57:34,690 --> 00:57:39,220
S4: they're getting through the game and they're just making it run. Uh,

1008
00:57:39,460 --> 00:57:42,370
S4: I did think, you know, Nick Nick Phipps did overegg

1009
00:57:42,370 --> 00:57:45,730
S4: it a bit by saying that European teams wouldn't, you know,

1010
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,880
S4: wouldn't handle Super Rugby at the moment. But he's got

1011
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,980
S4: a point that if they came down at the moment

1012
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:53,500
S4: before they got fit, they'd get run off the park

1013
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:55,030
S4: with the current speed of the game.

1014
00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:55,600
S6: Yeah that's.

1015
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,110
S4: Right. We'll make it interesting with the British and Irish Lions,

1016
00:57:59,110 --> 00:58:01,630
S4: because I think they're going to try and bring a

1017
00:58:01,630 --> 00:58:05,530
S4: big pack and forget how to tie their shoelaces and

1018
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,170
S4: to try to slow the ball down at every opportunity.

1019
00:58:08,170 --> 00:58:11,010
S4: So I think if the Australians can make that quick.

1020
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,970
S4: I think they've got a real shot of beating the bills. Um,

1021
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,760
S4: but yeah, I think it's a point well made. None

1022
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,550
S4: of this right from, you know, I remember when Stuart

1023
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:24,090
S4: Hogg took that horrendous dive and, you know, Nigel Owens

1024
00:58:24,090 --> 00:58:26,850
S4: told him it wasn't soccer. Uh, I think we need

1025
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,320
S4: to live a bit more by that.

1026
00:58:28,830 --> 00:58:32,550
S6: Um, yeah. And there is a law about this. There

1027
00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:37,110
S6: is law 970. Um, so it's not as though the

1028
00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:39,360
S6: referee can do whatever he likes anyway, under 658. But

1029
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,270
S6: there is a specific law about this. So guys, apply

1030
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:47,460
S6: the law. Um, worn short arm, long arm card. Get

1031
00:58:47,490 --> 00:58:48,810
S6: on with it. Mm.

1032
00:58:50,310 --> 00:58:55,440
S4: Absolutely, absolutely. Um, I didn't have any shouting at clouds.

1033
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,020
S4: I just, I got down and watched a trial at

1034
00:58:58,050 --> 00:59:02,010
S4: my club on the weekend. Just had a nice day.

1035
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,700
S4: Nice sunny day. Nice cold beer. Watched some boys running

1036
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:09,210
S4: around in the park. How? How good. So then followed

1037
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:11,490
S4: that up with the Reds game, followed it up with

1038
00:59:11,490 --> 00:59:16,530
S4: another game. Yeah. Just good. Good to be watching code

1039
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,660
S4: as much as you can. Uh, not getting too excited. Uh,

1040
00:59:21,690 --> 00:59:23,190
S4: anything else, gents?

1041
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:25,020
S5: No, I'm all done.

1042
00:59:25,650 --> 00:59:30,240
S4: You're all done. Okay. Well, once again, if you're still listening,

1043
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,320
S4: thank you very much. Uh, download rate. Subscribe. Review. We

1044
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,230
S4: love it all. Um, everyone's listening to all the, you know,

1045
00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:39,720
S4: we we do have some good numbers. We're enjoying the

1046
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,990
S4: amount of people who listen and and and interact with

1047
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:45,900
S4: the pod. Uh, if we could earn your, uh, a

1048
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:50,250
S4: like and comment, we'd certainly appreciate it. Uh, and that's

1049
00:59:50,250 --> 00:59:53,730
S4: us for now. Okay. Well, thanks for coming off the bench, mate.

1050
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,870
S4: We'll see you next time.

1051
00:59:55,050 --> 00:59:55,530
S6: See you later.

1052
00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:56,850
S5: Yep. See you later.

1053
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:57,660
S4: See you.

1054
00:59:58,140 --> 01:00:00,120
S1: You don't know anything about rugby. Don't talk.

1055
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,030
S2: Cregan drop go from Larkham.

1056
01:00:03,210 --> 01:00:06,030
S3: Australian three forward. They've got the advantage.

1057
01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:07,980
S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.