1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,560 S1: You don't know anything about rugby. Don't talk. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,439 S2: Greg. Drop goal from Larkham. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,400 S3: Australian Greek forward. They've got the advantage. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,440 S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,160 S4: Hi everyone and welcome to the third game of Teams 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,439 S4: Pod for the year. I'm happy and I'm here with 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,600 S4: Sally and Karl tonight. Evening, Sally. How was your week, mate? 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,880 S5: I had a good week, mate. I worked all weekend, 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,560 S5: but I managed to, uh, to watch a few games, and, uh, 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,240 S5: I really appreciated Scotland versus England. What a match. But, uh, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,280 S5: and I and I was just watching Georgia versus the Netherlands, 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,560 S5: and the Georgian guys were running amok. They are such 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 S5: strong people. But, uh. Yeah, I had a great, great 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,120 S5: week so far. 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,680 S4: Yeah. Very good. Karl, how was your week, mate? What 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,920 S4: was your favorite part of it? 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,880 S6: Just another week of work, mate. Um, the rugby was good. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,120 S4: And you were on holidays last week. 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,120 S6: I enjoyed the game. Yeah, I was on holiday last 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,480 S6: week and, um, so working this week and it was 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,490 S6: just normal work, but, um, he enjoyed the holiday, mate. 22 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:08,170 S6: Tasmania was awesome. Um, yeah, I, I had to, um, 23 00:01:08,650 --> 00:01:10,610 S6: miss a lot of the games when I was down there, 24 00:01:10,610 --> 00:01:12,610 S6: but I saw them this weekend and there was some 25 00:01:12,610 --> 00:01:13,330 S6: good rugby. 26 00:01:14,690 --> 00:01:17,410 S4: Yeah, yeah, it's a good country down there, isn't it? 27 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:18,330 S6: Um, it is. 28 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:22,770 S4: Very, very nice. Uh, look, my highlight was obviously, um, 29 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:26,770 S4: seeing Scotland beat England and, uh, shout out to butts. 30 00:01:27,569 --> 00:01:30,650 S4: You owe me a beer. Um, but no, it was 31 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:33,210 S4: it was the perfect thing about the duality of being 32 00:01:33,209 --> 00:01:39,050 S4: a Scottish Scottish supporter because they were absolute, horrifically bad 33 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:44,050 S4: against Italy. Although that game, that performance does look better in, uh, 34 00:01:44,490 --> 00:01:49,330 S4: in retrospect than it, uh, and it did in real time, uh, 35 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:53,290 S4: based on the way they played against uh, played against, uh, 36 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:56,770 S4: the Irish last week. But, uh, no, it was good, good, 37 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:59,090 S4: good games of rugby. I only missed one of the games. 38 00:01:59,140 --> 00:02:03,700 S4: so I'm pretty happy about that. Um, look again everyone, 39 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:06,540 S4: thanks for all your support. Please download, rate, subscribe and review. 40 00:02:06,580 --> 00:02:10,580 S4: If we've earned a like, we really appreciate it. It's certainly, uh, 41 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:14,739 S4: allows us to grow this particular little platform. Uh, as 42 00:02:14,740 --> 00:02:18,740 S4: I say, it's the start of the year. Uh preseason's. Well, in, uh, 43 00:02:18,740 --> 00:02:22,580 S4: play for all your all the clubs around town and, uh, 44 00:02:22,580 --> 00:02:25,020 S4: out in the country. So get down to your local club, 45 00:02:25,419 --> 00:02:28,700 S4: buy a beer, become a member, uh, or volunteer, as 46 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:34,260 S4: I do on occasion. Uh, it's, uh, certainly very, very enjoyable. Um, 47 00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:38,860 S4: for me, I've something that's popped into my Facebook feeds, the, uh, 48 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:42,540 S4: Condamine Cods, which I think is pretty cool. So, uh, 49 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:44,980 S4: and if you've ever been to Condamine, it's a particularly 50 00:02:44,980 --> 00:02:47,620 S4: small town. And it's really cool that they've managed to 51 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:51,380 S4: put together a team for the, for the, for the, uh, 52 00:02:51,419 --> 00:02:54,860 S4: camp out there. Uh, today we're going to do our 53 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:57,500 S4: usual thing. We're going to hit hit on the team's, uh, 54 00:02:58,220 --> 00:03:00,459 S4: a couple of the big moments from last week. Have 55 00:03:00,460 --> 00:03:04,380 S4: a quick discussion around peace around those, uh, and they're 56 00:03:04,419 --> 00:03:06,299 S4: running the teams. Let's get stuck into it, boys. What 57 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:06,780 S4: do you think? 58 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:08,459 S5: Yep. Let's go. 59 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:16,260 S4: Okay. Uh. Biggest moments for you last week, Sully, what 60 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:19,060 S4: were your what were your your big, big talking points. 61 00:03:19,060 --> 00:03:22,700 S4: Big thinking points on, uh, Super Rugby round one. 62 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:28,460 S5: Um, my biggest point was I, I'm, I'm, I'm struggling 63 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,019 S5: to see if I got a predicted a match. Right. 64 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:35,380 S5: Because I was terrible in my pips last week. Um, 65 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:37,540 S5: I was all over the place like the wrong teams 66 00:03:37,540 --> 00:03:39,260 S5: kept winning. So, um. 67 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:42,260 S6: Yeah, I think we all had a bit of that, mate. 68 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:44,540 S5: Yeah, it was a shocker, but, uh. But that's. 69 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:47,980 S4: You did. You did better than me. You took Crusaders, Reds, 70 00:03:48,260 --> 00:03:53,700 S4: Fiji Blues and Brumbies. So you got two. Yeah. Uh, yeah, 71 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:58,870 S4: I got one because I got, I got, I went Crusaders, Reds, Fiji, 72 00:03:59,110 --> 00:04:00,350 S4: Chiefs and force. 73 00:04:00,910 --> 00:04:02,990 S5: That's the beauty of the comp though, isn't it? Like 74 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:07,470 S5: teams have different strategies and some teams start faster, some 75 00:04:07,510 --> 00:04:14,190 S5: teams start slow. So yeah, it's all good. But, um, no. Look, mate, 76 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:16,349 S5: like I said, I, I work two 12 hour shifts 77 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:18,670 S5: over the weekend and I did a lot of sleeping 78 00:04:18,670 --> 00:04:22,270 S5: and my awake time wasn't that, uh, clear. So I 79 00:04:22,270 --> 00:04:26,429 S5: can't really think of a of a big moment. Mm. 80 00:04:28,270 --> 00:04:31,430 S4: Carl, did you what did you enjoy about last weekend? 81 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:34,550 S6: Um, actually, it was, it was, it was good watching 82 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:37,910 S6: the Highlanders win. Actually, I, I enjoyed that game. Um, 83 00:04:39,790 --> 00:04:42,150 S6: I'm not sure whether the Crusaders gave it to them 84 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:46,710 S6: or they won because, uh, Crusaders are notoriously slow starters 85 00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:48,790 S6: at the best of times. So, you know, if you're 86 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:50,430 S6: going to beat them, it's probably going to be early 87 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:54,310 S6: in the season. Um, I found that one of the 88 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:57,280 S6: things I noticed in most of the games was that 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,200 S6: the handling was terrible throughout the whole competition. There were 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,559 S6: so many dropped ball, poor passes, ill directed kicks from 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,719 S6: every team. And and I think, you know, it's that 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,760 S6: that first you can train as much as you want. 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,719 S6: But when you get into the game, things are different. 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,120 S6: And I think that that's all that was. So. So 95 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,000 S6: I expect to see that better. Um, I, I enjoyed watching, um, 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,839 S6: the Highlanders win. Um, I enjoyed watching the Chiefs win. Actually, 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,640 S6: that last try was quite a good try. Um, interestingly, 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 S6: they they shouldn't have won with that other try that 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,920 S6: was called. But that happens. Um, so yeah, you know 100 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,320 S6: the seeing the underdog win was quite good. Um, and 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,200 S6: I must admit the Brumbies impressed me. 102 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,120 S4: Yeah. Yeah I yeah. The um I kind of felt 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,480 S4: with the Highlanders game that they almost, they were almost 104 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,479 S4: a little bit scared to try and win the game 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,919 S4: like they, they kind of didn't quite know what to 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,090 S4: do to, to win it that in the last ten 107 00:05:57,130 --> 00:05:59,410 S4: 15 minutes, when it was really close to it felt 108 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:01,690 S4: like the Crusaders were playing and the Highlanders sort of 109 00:06:01,690 --> 00:06:04,289 S4: went into their shell a little bit like they almost 110 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:06,050 S4: like they didn't expect to be that close. 111 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:08,650 S6: And I think, um, it's one of the things that 112 00:06:08,650 --> 00:06:12,050 S6: you see a lot, um, teams get into a, into 113 00:06:12,089 --> 00:06:14,730 S6: the in front with a few minutes to go and 114 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:16,730 S6: they try and protect the lead and they change how 115 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:19,289 S6: they play, but actually how they played is what got 116 00:06:19,290 --> 00:06:21,650 S6: them in the lead anyway. So they shouldn't try and 117 00:06:21,650 --> 00:06:24,529 S6: stop that. And I think, um, that's always a mistake 118 00:06:24,529 --> 00:06:25,409 S6: when that happens. 119 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:32,490 S4: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, okay. Um, yeah, I obviously I 120 00:06:32,490 --> 00:06:35,210 S4: watched a bit of the Six Nations as well, and, uh, 121 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:38,370 S4: everyone's seen it. You've you've got to feel sorry for, uh, 122 00:06:38,490 --> 00:06:42,289 S4: Todd Furlong because, um, he's, you know, two time British 123 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:46,450 S4: and Irish Lion played 100 tests, world class proper, you know, 124 00:06:46,490 --> 00:06:48,410 S4: and he, he gets folded up like a deck chair 125 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:51,250 S4: like that. And that's the only thing that so many 126 00:06:51,250 --> 00:06:55,410 S4: people will remember from his entire career, which has been tremendous, 127 00:06:55,570 --> 00:06:59,049 S4: you know, great hands, all that sort of stuff. All gone. 128 00:06:59,089 --> 00:07:01,570 S4: All it'll be is him folded up like a deck 129 00:07:01,570 --> 00:07:07,810 S4: chair proper bc, uh, so that was pretty cool. Uh, 130 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:13,050 S4: let's move it along. Uh, just quickly, we're just going 131 00:07:13,050 --> 00:07:15,330 S4: to play a little game, uh, out of out of 132 00:07:15,330 --> 00:07:18,490 S4: the games of the week in our review. Just a 133 00:07:18,530 --> 00:07:22,010 S4: bit of a bad game and a bad sign. Uh, Sully, 134 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:26,090 S4: I'm going to go with you and first and ask 135 00:07:26,090 --> 00:07:30,130 S4: you the Reds. Was that just a bad game, or 136 00:07:30,130 --> 00:07:31,370 S4: was it a bad sign? 137 00:07:32,930 --> 00:07:36,090 S5: Uh, that's a bad game. Um, I expected them to 138 00:07:36,090 --> 00:07:41,970 S5: start slow, but, um, when you're missing three fly halves 139 00:07:41,970 --> 00:07:48,090 S5: and two halfbacks, um. You got to expect some disruptions 140 00:07:48,090 --> 00:07:50,650 S5: in your team. And I expected them to start slow. 141 00:07:50,650 --> 00:07:56,420 S5: I didn't expect them to get beaten by quite that much, though. But, um. Yeah. 142 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:59,500 S5: And having said that, I thought, uh, Lewis Hirschhorn at 143 00:07:59,500 --> 00:08:03,380 S5: halfback was pretty good. Uh, Harry McCracken. Philip just seemed 144 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:06,380 S5: a little bit hesitant at fly half and didn't run 145 00:08:06,380 --> 00:08:09,340 S5: the game or didn't boss the game as much as 146 00:08:09,340 --> 00:08:12,700 S5: I'd like him to, but, um, the Fords went alright. 147 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:16,380 S5: But yeah, I'd say that's a bad game for me. Yeah. 148 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:19,740 S4: What about you? Uh, Kyle, what do you think? 149 00:08:19,780 --> 00:08:22,140 S6: Um, I don't think you can read too much into 150 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:24,500 S6: the first game for a lot of reasons. Um, as 151 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:28,260 S6: you say, injuries and that. But, um, if it happens again, 152 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,140 S6: it'll start being a bad sign, because is it an 153 00:08:31,140 --> 00:08:34,740 S6: indication that their depth isn't there? And if they haven't 154 00:08:34,740 --> 00:08:36,980 S6: got the depth there, that could be a bad sign. 155 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:40,100 S6: I personally tend to agree, Sally, at this stage we'll 156 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:42,740 S6: call it a bad game. Lots of injuries, bad game. 157 00:08:42,980 --> 00:08:46,260 S6: But if they don't pick it up, then maybe we 158 00:08:46,260 --> 00:08:47,179 S6: need to change. 159 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:53,140 S4: Yeah, yeah, I, um, I'm I'm I'm of a similar view. 160 00:08:53,140 --> 00:08:57,270 S4: I'm just going to go with bad game on that one. It's, uh, they, uh, 161 00:08:57,790 --> 00:08:59,710 S4: up until the last 15 minutes, they were well, in 162 00:08:59,750 --> 00:09:02,949 S4: the game, they were only a score behind. Uh, their 163 00:09:02,950 --> 00:09:06,990 S4: bench obviously didn't didn't have the probably aren't up to 164 00:09:07,030 --> 00:09:10,390 S4: Super Rugby level yet. So that's where they, they suffered 165 00:09:10,390 --> 00:09:15,030 S4: with just that depth. Uh, yeah. Also I and I, 166 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:17,830 S4: you know, I don't know whether it's just me being 167 00:09:17,830 --> 00:09:21,550 S4: read till I'm dead putting, putting my rose colored glasses on, 168 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:25,949 S4: but you wonder whether they've sort of been training them 169 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,910 S4: pretty hard for the start of the season. And having 170 00:09:28,910 --> 00:09:31,429 S4: the boy is kind of they've looked at that as 171 00:09:31,429 --> 00:09:34,230 S4: the freshening freshening up because then they've got a big 172 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:37,150 S4: run of games after that. So maybe they're who knows. 173 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:39,390 S6: I'm you're reaching you're reaching. 174 00:09:39,429 --> 00:09:43,230 S4: I'm I'm hey mate. After losing New South Wales I'm 175 00:09:43,230 --> 00:09:44,710 S4: going to reach all I can. Yeah. 176 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:48,590 S6: Fair. Cool. I don't blame you. But you are reaching. 177 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:52,470 S4: Yeah. Yes. The the light, the light coming through is 178 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:57,760 S4: not the oncoming chain, it is the sunrise. So now let's, uh, 179 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,080 S4: let's let's just go with bad game on that one. Uh, 180 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,880 S4: for me, I thought the 40 boys was a bad sign. And, 181 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,760 S4: you know, I hand on heart, I picked them as 182 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:12,520 S4: a top four contender this year, and they just didn't they? 183 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,199 S4: The Brumbies were just unbelievably, unbelievably good for them. And, uh, 184 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,560 S4: put a put a proper score on them. Uh, bad, 185 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,760 S4: bad sign for me. What do you what do you think, Carl? 186 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:29,280 S6: Um, I think they've got some problems, that's for sure. Um, and, uh, 187 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,400 S6: I find it interesting that that they're. Williams and Swain 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,520 S6: did so well last, last year have been pushed out 189 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,800 S6: because they bought the Argentinian, and, um, and maybe that's 190 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,800 S6: not sinking as well as what, um, Swain and Williams did. 191 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,120 S6: I mean, personally, I thought Swain and Williams were the 192 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,160 S6: two form locks of the whole competition last year. Um, 193 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,280 S6: but I think, you know, losing losing at home that 194 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,640 S6: badly in the first game, um, I think is more 195 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,679 S6: than just a bad game because and it wasn't, you know, 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,959 S6: it wasn't as though the Brumbies were exceptional. They played well, 197 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,199 S6: don't get me wrong. They they played some good rugby. 198 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,079 S6: But I think that, um, the force showed a real 199 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,600 S6: lack of cohesion, a lack of discipline, a lack of, um, 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,680 S6: thinking it was like our plan A is not working. 201 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,720 S6: We haven't got a plan B. Um, so, so I 202 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 S6: think I think I will leave it at a bad 203 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,680 S6: game at this stage because it is the first game. 204 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,920 S6: But like the Reds, if they don't start picking up, 205 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,640 S6: then maybe it is a bad sign. 206 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,800 S4: Yeah it's it's concerning. 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:40,559 S6: Yeah. 208 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,040 S4: It was probably the most concerning game for mine. You 209 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,280 S4: know in in in round one, uh, you know in 210 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,010 S4: your first game of the year, you don't have it 211 00:11:52,050 --> 00:11:54,090 S4: for the force. They don't have the travel excuse. They 212 00:11:54,090 --> 00:11:56,890 S4: don't have any excuse. They come up against the Brumbies 213 00:11:56,890 --> 00:12:00,370 S4: who've just smoked them. And you've got to take your 214 00:12:00,370 --> 00:12:03,530 S4: hats off to the Brumbies. You know they've lost lost 215 00:12:03,530 --> 00:12:07,050 S4: to you. Alito is not playing Lenny has gone overseas. 216 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:10,809 S4: Tom Wright's injured. That's their four best players from last 217 00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:16,770 S4: year by any real metric. Maybe Tom Hooper's gone. There's 218 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:20,050 S4: five five of their probably top six players. The the 219 00:12:20,050 --> 00:12:22,370 S4: other one who who's still there would be Nick Frost, 220 00:12:22,850 --> 00:12:23,410 S4: but I've. 221 00:12:23,650 --> 00:12:24,530 S6: And Valentino. 222 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:28,090 S4: Valentini. But, uh, yeah. 223 00:12:28,570 --> 00:12:32,090 S6: Yeah, we've still got Lonergan. Um, I thought the their 224 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:35,329 S6: team played really well. It'll be interesting if he if 225 00:12:35,330 --> 00:12:38,090 S6: he keeps playing like that, he'll he'll be pushing for 226 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:40,770 S6: a wallaby slot if he keeps that up because he 227 00:12:40,770 --> 00:12:44,810 S6: made some really good decisions. He kept the backline flowing. 228 00:12:44,809 --> 00:12:47,810 S6: Well he I thought he controlled the game really well. 229 00:12:47,809 --> 00:12:50,940 S6: So if he keeps that up um, he's certainly doing 230 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:53,140 S6: better than what some of the others have done. Yeah. 231 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:57,260 S4: Another good Queensland boy from Townsville, I believe. Uh, Sally, 232 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,780 S4: what do you reckon? Was it just doing? Can you 233 00:12:59,780 --> 00:13:02,140 S4: forgive the forces or are you worried for them? 234 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:05,300 S5: Uh, I think they've got some great players in there. 235 00:13:05,300 --> 00:13:10,100 S5: I think they're just suffering, uh, suffering from, uh, a 236 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:13,660 S5: few turnovers and a and a lack of cohesion. But, uh, 237 00:13:13,660 --> 00:13:15,179 S5: I think they're going to get a lot better as 238 00:13:15,179 --> 00:13:17,980 S5: the season goes on. So I'm willing to give them a, 239 00:13:17,980 --> 00:13:18,900 S5: a bad game. 240 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:22,380 S4: Yeah, I think round one you've got to give everyone the, 241 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:26,660 S4: you know, the benefit of the doubt realistically. But it's 242 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:29,819 S4: they're probably the two the two I think every everyone 243 00:13:29,820 --> 00:13:33,939 S4: else maybe with the the draw would be concerned about 244 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:37,179 S4: uh their performance as well. But I think everyone else 245 00:13:37,179 --> 00:13:42,179 S4: would be pretty, you know, not you know, I think 246 00:13:42,220 --> 00:13:46,460 S4: they'd they'd be not disappointed by their, uh, by their performances. 247 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:49,580 S4: Moana was probably always a bit of a banana skin 248 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:53,390 S4: Opportunity for the draw. Uh, who've now proven that they 249 00:13:53,550 --> 00:13:59,870 S4: don't necessarily win all the time. Churchill Park. So, anyway, it's, uh, 250 00:13:59,910 --> 00:14:03,829 S4: it's certainly only whets the appetite for this week's games. 251 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:08,270 S4: Let's get into them. Uh, and the first one. First 252 00:14:08,270 --> 00:14:10,910 S4: one for the weekend. Uh, the early game for those 253 00:14:10,910 --> 00:14:13,309 S4: who want to get off, get off work early. Uh, 254 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:19,950 S4: the Friday game, uh, the hurricanes versus Moana at Wellington. Uh, 255 00:14:20,270 --> 00:14:25,110 S4: the hurricanes first team for the year, uh, features Xavier Neemia, 256 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:31,230 S4: Asafo Aumua, uh, Hugo Bernardini, who's the Japanese captain? Devan 257 00:14:31,230 --> 00:14:35,950 S4: Flanders I love that name. Um, Peter Lakai. Brandon. Uh, 258 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:40,990 S4: Brett Cameron. Uh, Jordie Barrett playing Baden Sullivan, who I rate. 259 00:14:41,110 --> 00:14:45,150 S4: Josh Morby's good. Uh, on the bench. They've got Roy 260 00:14:45,150 --> 00:14:47,110 S4: guy coming off the bench, just in case you need 261 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:49,960 S4: a little you know, the best The second best halfback 262 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 S4: in the world coming off off to finish off the game, 263 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:58,840 S4: and the Moana boys are pretty settled from last week. 264 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,160 S4: From what I can see, there. 265 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,440 S6: Are five changes made. 266 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,040 S4: Five changes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I guess I better 267 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,760 S4: go through them. They've got, uh, Abraham, Polly, Molly, uh, 268 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,480 S4: they've got a physio. 269 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,160 S6: I need to read them all out, mate. 270 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,080 S4: Yeah. Let's not get too carried away. I think Pellegrini 271 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,680 S4: still playing Glenn. Wahoo. Yeah. The good Brisbane boy he's playing. 272 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,240 S4: Um yeah they're a good team Gus Gardner's the the ref. 273 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,640 S4: Tell me what your canes are up mate. 274 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,800 S6: Because they're the canes. Obviously. Looks like you're going to 275 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,320 S6: tell me the Reds are up because they're the reds. Um, 276 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,920 S6: canes first. First game. 277 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,320 S4: There. Every chance of beating the by this weekend, mate. 278 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,400 S6: Yeah, I think so. I think, um, the canes was 279 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,640 S6: the first game of the weekend. They may come into 280 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,920 S6: it with the same handling issues that every other team 281 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,000 S6: had in that first game when the pressure's on which 282 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,400 S6: which could be an issue. Um, interestingly, Tana, um, talked about, um, 283 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,840 S6: bringing this in because when they played, uh, Perth last 284 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,320 S6: year and went to the red straight afterwards, the distance 285 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,800 S6: and the heat killed the team and, and coming from 286 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,680 S6: Fiji with the distance, the plan was always to change 287 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,000 S6: the players. Um a it'll give it'll, it'll give guys 288 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 S6: a game which they need because deep in the season 289 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 S6: they might need them. And they found that when you 290 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,000 S6: come out of a game like Fiji, with the distance 291 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,800 S6: traveled and the heat and to the cold of Wellington, 292 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,200 S6: the fatigue really kicks in. So it's probably a smart 293 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,960 S6: move by him. Um, look, I think, I think the, um, 294 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,200 S6: canes have got enough to win this. Um, but I 295 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 S6: think that first game of the season, they're going to 296 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,360 S6: struggle like every other team did. So they'll win, but 297 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,160 S6: they'll struggle to get the win. 298 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,120 S4: Tally thoughts? 299 00:16:47,170 --> 00:16:49,770 S5: Uh, yeah. I was going to mention the fatigue because, uh, 300 00:16:49,770 --> 00:16:52,210 S5: a lot of teams struggled after going to Fiji last year. 301 00:16:52,210 --> 00:16:53,730 S5: And I figured my when am I going to do 302 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:56,570 S5: the same, especially after putting in a big effort and 303 00:16:56,570 --> 00:16:58,570 S5: winning up there. But I think, uh, hurricanes are going 304 00:16:58,610 --> 00:17:03,170 S5: to be too good, uh, for the winner this week. 305 00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:06,210 S5: Even with the changes, the hurricanes for me. 306 00:17:06,890 --> 00:17:10,490 S4: Mm. Yeah. It'll be it'll be a cool game to, 307 00:17:11,050 --> 00:17:14,609 S4: to watch. I'm really looking forward to seeing that play 308 00:17:14,609 --> 00:17:20,050 S4: because he's the he's a fairly high highly regarded player 309 00:17:20,050 --> 00:17:22,889 S4: in the Japanese league. So it'll be for me I 310 00:17:22,890 --> 00:17:24,649 S4: want to see how he goes in the Super Rugby. 311 00:17:24,650 --> 00:17:28,050 S4: Just to see I guess to benchmark some of those 312 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:32,690 S4: Japanese players to see whether that's, uh, what that looks like. Uh, 313 00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:36,290 S4: great to see Brad Shields running around. He must be 314 00:17:36,609 --> 00:17:41,530 S4: 3738 by now. I guess he's getting on a bit, uh, 315 00:17:42,490 --> 00:17:45,250 S4: good teams I'll be taking I'll be taking the canes 316 00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:49,580 S4: as well, just because they're at home, Mona. It's just 317 00:17:49,580 --> 00:17:51,460 S4: going to have to prove that they can put, put, 318 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:53,340 S4: put two games together for me. 319 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:57,140 S5: They were they were impressive last week. I thought they 320 00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:57,820 S5: played really well. 321 00:17:57,859 --> 00:18:01,060 S4: They were they were very physical. And maybe that's their 322 00:18:01,060 --> 00:18:04,060 S4: plan is to, you know, do a bit of rotation 323 00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:09,020 S4: and be be a hard, physical team. But, uh, those, uh, 324 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:11,859 S4: Kane boys are pretty, pretty physical and be fitting for 325 00:18:11,859 --> 00:18:14,060 S4: the for the first game of the year, that's for certain. 326 00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:18,860 S4: Having watched everyone play last week, uh, for me, I 327 00:18:18,980 --> 00:18:25,620 S4: guess I'd take the Kane's probably by ten. I think. Uh, 328 00:18:25,660 --> 00:18:28,859 S4: second game, but also on a Friday night so that 329 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:35,139 S4: the stars are backing up at home twice on a Friday. Uh, versus, uh, Fiji. 330 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:38,979 S4: The stars are Tom Lambert, Ethan Diamonds, Dan Bowen and 331 00:18:38,980 --> 00:18:46,750 S4: Matt Phillip. Amateur. Halaholo. Gamble. Samu. Gordon. Crichton. Jorgensen, Joey Walton, 332 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:50,990 S4: Jessica Sicily, Harry Potter and James Henderson, who played well 333 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:59,550 S4: last week. Uh, the Drewer are, um. They've got Josh Armstrong, 334 00:19:00,030 --> 00:19:03,870 S4: they got Frank Lemanis playing. He's starting, uh, so they're 335 00:19:03,869 --> 00:19:07,350 S4: a good team again. They got Fines-leleiwasa coming off the bench. 336 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:10,830 S4: Nice team mate is playing on for them as well. 337 00:19:11,910 --> 00:19:12,669 S6: Yeah. Six. 338 00:19:13,790 --> 00:19:17,950 S4: Yeah. Six changes, but, uh, still a pretty solid looking team. 339 00:19:19,550 --> 00:19:20,550 S4: What do you reckon, Karl? 340 00:19:23,470 --> 00:19:24,910 S6: Oh, me. Sorry. I thought you were going to. Sally. 341 00:19:25,310 --> 00:19:27,470 S4: No, no. Let's go, let's go. Sorry, sorry. 342 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:29,910 S5: Okay. I thought the tyres were really impressive last week, 343 00:19:29,910 --> 00:19:31,990 S5: and they were impressive in their trial matches, but the 344 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:37,790 S5: Drua were not impressive. Uh, they made a lot of mistakes, and, um, 345 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:41,510 S5: they didn't seem to really have a plan. So I 346 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:47,109 S5: think especially for this one. Yeah, yeah. 347 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:52,750 S6: Yeah. Interestingly, you know, um, played last five games, three 348 00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:55,390 S6: to the towers, two to the towers have all won 349 00:19:55,390 --> 00:19:57,389 S6: at home. Drew of all won at home. This one's 350 00:19:57,390 --> 00:20:00,389 S6: at home. I think it's going to be four two. Um, 351 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:06,230 S6: I think that, um, the drua, the Drua have said 352 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:10,830 S6: that their challenge this year is to win away from home. Um, and, 353 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:15,149 S6: and the six changes they've made, they've, they've brought in some, um, 354 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:18,710 S6: pretty good players who, um, you know, under 20 products 355 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:21,990 S6: and everything who are, who are giving it the go. And, 356 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:24,629 S6: and I think that I think they will try I 357 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:28,430 S6: think they will offer a bit of a challenge. Um, 358 00:20:28,590 --> 00:20:30,750 S6: but yeah, no, I think I think the Waratahs will 359 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:34,470 S6: have this one. I, I can't see them losing, um, 360 00:20:34,510 --> 00:20:37,350 S6: to the, um, to the drua not at home. If 361 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:40,109 S6: they're playing in Fiji, they might, but not at home. 362 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:47,160 S4: Yeah. I Uh, like the, um, again. Um, I feel 363 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,960 S4: like I'm just swimming with the tide, which I don't 364 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,680 S4: normally like to do, but, uh, I can't, I can't 365 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 S4: see can't go past the tires. They. Their performance last 366 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,000 S4: week was very strong. They were consistent throughout the whole game. Uh, 367 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,440 S4: their bench was very good. I felt, uh, Deborah gives 368 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,200 S4: them some, gives them some real direction late in the game. 369 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720 S4: So if it and he's got a big boot on him, 370 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,560 S4: you know he's just an older head. So he's good. 371 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,600 S4: He's he's in that position. Uh that Moana Anu who 372 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 S4: came over from the Crusaders is on the bench this week, 373 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,240 S4: so it'll be good to see him get his first 374 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,480 S4: run and see how he goes. Uh, Nick Berry's the ref, 375 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,800 S4: so I don't think that necessarily favors either team. The, uh, 376 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,280 S4: you know, I think the the tires are pretty, pretty 377 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,359 S4: good for two for two and potentially top of the table. 378 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,080 S4: Still after two weeks they'll be. 379 00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:44,690 S6: Hustle be unbearable. 380 00:21:45,130 --> 00:21:48,010 S4: Mate. He always is. But they'll be looking to stop 381 00:21:48,010 --> 00:21:53,250 S4: the count now and call it a season if that happens. Uh, 382 00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:58,970 S4: third game for the weekend is the Highlanders v the 383 00:21:58,970 --> 00:22:01,810 S4: Chiefs at Forsyth Barr. So the Highlanders to get to 384 00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:05,689 S4: double up at home again. Uh, they've got, uh, the 385 00:22:05,690 --> 00:22:10,770 S4: Highlanders team looks pretty good with the group starting Mitch Dunshee, 386 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:18,290 S4: Sean Withey uh, Cam Miller, uh, Reuben Lowe, Tanguy toy 387 00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:23,090 S4: and uh, that ratermann kneepkens which I one day I'll 388 00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:27,570 S4: get his name right. Uh, interesting to see Ryan Pasitoa 389 00:22:27,609 --> 00:22:30,170 S4: getting a, uh, a run down there at, uh, in 390 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:35,570 S4: Highlanders country. Uh, former force and Australian under 20 player. 391 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:41,370 S4: The Chiefs, they look pretty solid with, uh, Samisoni Taukei'aho 392 00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:46,180 S4: George Dwyer. Tupou VI, who played well last week, was, uh. 393 00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:50,660 S4: Sounds like, uh, fortunate to get that try. Jerome Brown, 394 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:57,460 S4: former Brumby. Is there, uh, still no sign of, um, 395 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:02,820 S4: Damian McKenzie? So he's, uh, is he injured or do 396 00:23:02,820 --> 00:23:04,060 S4: you know, do you know Karl? 397 00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:05,300 S6: Uh, he's just had. 398 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:05,379 S4: A. 399 00:23:06,020 --> 00:23:09,500 S6: He's he's he's had a well he hasn't. No, his 400 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:11,940 S6: wife's had a baby and and I think he's taking 401 00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:16,300 S6: some time off for that. Um, I think he's, he's 402 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,540 S6: not on the injury list anyway. Uh, yeah. 403 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:23,060 S4: But he's look good with Quentin Tupaia as well. You know, 404 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:26,500 S4: they they're just a solid team, front to back. Uh, 405 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:30,500 S4: probably a little disappointed in how they played last week. 406 00:23:31,260 --> 00:23:34,460 S4: They just didn't seem like they were the chiefs of old. 407 00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:38,020 S4: You know, they just didn't quite click. They normally go 408 00:23:38,020 --> 00:23:43,379 S4: through the gears pretty well. Angus. Moby's the ref. Uh, Kyle, 409 00:23:43,420 --> 00:23:44,780 S4: what do you think about this one, mate? 410 00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:47,260 S6: Um, yeah, I think I think this is going to 411 00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,500 S6: be closer than people think. And in fact, I think 412 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,300 S6: the Highlander will take this there at home. Um, they've 413 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:55,219 S6: had less, less disruption, although they they have had the 414 00:23:55,220 --> 00:24:03,180 S6: problem where they've lost their, their major, um, major prop because, um, his, uh, 415 00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:04,820 S6: his son was killed. 416 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:05,660 S4: Um, yeah. 417 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:09,220 S6: So which is really sad. And, and he's obviously taking 418 00:24:09,260 --> 00:24:13,780 S6: time off, uh, to, to look after that. So that'll 419 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:15,500 S6: be a bit of a letdown. But they're going to 420 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:19,379 S6: start with the Groot. And I think that, um, at 421 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:23,300 S6: home after beating the Crusaders, I think they might have 422 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:26,619 S6: it in them to, to do it. I thought that 423 00:24:26,619 --> 00:24:29,540 S6: the try they got where they passed the ball through 424 00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:34,540 S6: almost the whole backline and went like 60, 70m. Um, 425 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:36,660 S6: I thought that was a pretty good try. It was 426 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:39,660 S6: certainly better than anything the Chiefs managed to put together. 427 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:41,869 S6: So yeah, I'm going to I'm going to go against 428 00:24:41,869 --> 00:24:43,669 S6: the grain here and, and I'm going to back the 429 00:24:43,670 --> 00:24:44,950 S6: Highlanders this weekend. 430 00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:50,070 S5: Well, it's not that much about the game against the grain, mate, 431 00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:52,910 S5: because I'm, um, I'm predicting the same thing. I think 432 00:24:52,910 --> 00:24:55,950 S5: the Highlanders can win this. Um, both teams had great 433 00:24:55,950 --> 00:25:00,110 S5: wins last week. Um, what? Hard fought wins. But I think, uh, 434 00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:04,629 S5: without Damian McKenzie and Cortez Ratima, um, the Chiefs are 435 00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:06,909 S5: a bit vulnerable. And, uh. Yeah, I'm going to. I'm 436 00:25:06,910 --> 00:25:08,070 S5: going to go with the Highlanders. 437 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:12,949 S4: Yeah. Uh, yeah, I'm going to take the Chiefs in 438 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:16,710 S4: this one. I just think that they're too good a team. 439 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,230 S4: They they're not a team that's going to be. Uh oh. 440 00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:26,790 S4: And two at the end of two, two weeks, uh, they, uh. Yeah. 441 00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:30,710 S4: And that's just. Yeah. Got I mean the Highlanders played 442 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:33,830 S4: well last week. So you know, they they really sort of, uh. 443 00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:34,950 S5: Won last. 444 00:25:35,150 --> 00:25:35,510 S4: Night. 445 00:25:36,190 --> 00:25:38,990 S5: Did they won last night. 446 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:42,680 S6: I beat. 447 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,520 S4: The blues. Sorry, my Alzheimer's is kicking in. Um, it 448 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,440 S4: was close, though. 449 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,160 S5: It was. 450 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,879 S6: It was close. It was very close. 451 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760 S4: Yeah. My apologies. 452 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,360 S5: 19 to 15. 453 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,120 S4: 19 to 15. There you go. Okay, well, I'm still 454 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,840 S4: going for the Chiefs. Uh, yeah. Because. Because they had 455 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:11,199 S4: a good win last week. No, I just no, I, um, um, 456 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,000 S4: missed that one up a little bit. No. Yeah. I 457 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,639 S4: just like the Chiefs. I think they're, they're, they're a 458 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320 S4: really good team with Quentin Tupaia in their team. It's 459 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,879 S4: gives them some real, real steam. Uh, but they didn't 460 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,240 S4: run through the gears last week like they like to. 461 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,399 S4: And you wonder whether that is a Damian McKenzie thing. 462 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:37,439 S4: Next one along, uh, the force v the Blues. Uh, 463 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,530 S4: in Perth. The force are Tom Robertson, Ben Brandon Paenga-amosa, 464 00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:48,169 S4: Harry Johnson-holmes, Franco Molina, Darcy Swain, Jeremy Williams, Carlo Tizzano, 465 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:53,770 S4: Nathan Hastie, Ben Donaldson, Bayley Kuenzle, Hamish Stuart, George Bridge, 466 00:26:54,170 --> 00:27:01,330 S4: uh David and Matt Greely and got a solid bench 467 00:27:01,330 --> 00:27:07,890 S4: that includes Fury. And Kane. Koteka. The Blues have got 468 00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:14,530 S4: fussy Tua Slater Langen Bashir Anton Singers gets a start. 469 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:19,210 S4: He was on the bench last week. Dalton Papalii, Hoskins Sotutu, Finlay, Christie, 470 00:27:20,170 --> 00:27:25,810 S4: Caleb Clark, AJ Lam, Cole Forbes Sutherland and again got 471 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:33,609 S4: a solid bench that includes Kurt Eklund and OFA Tu'ungafasi. Damon. 472 00:27:33,650 --> 00:27:37,369 S4: Damon Murphy is the ref. Salley. 473 00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:45,420 S5: Thoughts Uh. Yeah, I think the blues. Blues have traveled 474 00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:49,500 S5: a fair distance. The force didn't look great last week. 475 00:27:49,619 --> 00:27:53,340 S5: Before the Blues got the travel against them. But they 476 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,980 S5: had a narrow loss. Um, and looked pretty good. So 477 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,180 S5: I'm going to go with the blues. Um, it's a 478 00:27:59,180 --> 00:28:02,420 S5: it's a hard trip across to Western Australia, but I 479 00:28:02,420 --> 00:28:04,180 S5: think they can do it. So I'm going to take 480 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:05,139 S5: the blues in this one. 481 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:10,740 S4: Mm. Carl. Your thoughts? 482 00:28:11,619 --> 00:28:17,100 S6: Um, yeah, I think, um, I think the the force 483 00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:20,740 S6: are making a mistake breaking up Swaine and Williams as locks. Um, 484 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,859 S6: they've still got Williams in there. He's playing six. Um, 485 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:28,140 S6: but I'm not sure that's actually going to help their 486 00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:31,620 S6: contest in the rucks as much. Um, and I think 487 00:28:31,619 --> 00:28:34,820 S6: that the loose forwards that the Blues are bringing over 488 00:28:34,859 --> 00:28:37,180 S6: are going to be a lot stronger, even even with 489 00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:39,980 S6: Tizzano there, who I think is one of the best 490 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:43,140 S6: sevens in world rugby at the moment. Um, I think 491 00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:47,100 S6: that I'm going to back the Blues. Um, I get 492 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,820 S6: the travel. Um, personally, with all the travel I've done 493 00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:53,260 S6: over the years, and these guys are living in business 494 00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:56,180 S6: class with plenty of days beforehand. I don't think it's 495 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:59,020 S6: quite the issue. Some people say it is, and sometimes 496 00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:02,260 S6: I think it's more of a, um, an excuse than 497 00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:04,820 S6: anything else. But I think when you look at the blues, 498 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:07,900 S6: the look at the the hard game they had against the, um, 499 00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:14,020 S6: against the Chiefs, considering how the force went against the Brumbies, 500 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,980 S6: I think the Blues will take this. 501 00:29:17,860 --> 00:29:22,300 S4: Um, yeah. It's interesting. The Blues are going with basically 502 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:26,180 S4: two sevens and the force are kind of going with 503 00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:29,460 S4: one fetcher being colored, as I know, because Ian Williams, 504 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:32,340 S4: you wouldn't necessarily call them Fetchers. No. 505 00:29:32,620 --> 00:29:33,700 S6: No, neither of them are. 506 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:38,110 S4: Yeah. Singer and Papa Lee are both Fetches. So that's 507 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:44,750 S4: going going to be provide an interesting point of difference. Uh, 508 00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:51,190 S4: I just wonder whether the force have gone with a 509 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:54,390 S4: beefier pack, because that's what they expect out of the Blues. 510 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:57,790 S4: They expect a bit more confrontation, a bit more of 511 00:29:57,790 --> 00:30:00,390 S4: a confrontational component. And and look, they want to be 512 00:30:00,390 --> 00:30:00,830 S4: in it. 513 00:30:00,870 --> 00:30:03,630 S6: Absolutely. And that and that's how the the Blues play. 514 00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:04,390 S6: You know they. 515 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:05,830 S4: Yeah they play pretty. 516 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:09,870 S6: Vern Cotter um when when he took the Blues to 517 00:30:09,910 --> 00:30:13,830 S6: the to the Championship, it was based on a really 518 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:17,830 S6: powerful forward pack beating everyone else up on the ground 519 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:21,670 S6: and then releasing it out. But the game itself was 520 00:30:21,670 --> 00:30:24,270 S6: pretty tight. Um, and I don't think that's going to 521 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:27,430 S6: change too much. So, um, I think they'll bust up 522 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:30,430 S6: the middle. I think they've got the strength. Um, it. 523 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:35,030 S6: I don't rate Christie that much, um, as a halfback, 524 00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:38,840 S6: because I think that meat and potatoes wise, his passing 525 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800 S6: is not up to the standard needed in international level. 526 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,640 S6: But at this level, his passing is certainly adequate, and 527 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,200 S6: his defense and his and his sniping runs are very, 528 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,080 S6: very good. So, um, and I think he suits the 529 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,640 S6: Blues game better than he suited the All Blacks game, 530 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,040 S6: which was part of his problem. But yeah, um, Ben 531 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,440 S6: Carter will will bully them. That's what he does. 532 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,600 S4: Um, yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm going to take the forces 533 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:14,480 S4: just because I, I just think they they probably showed 534 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,400 S4: a little bit of inexperience last week. Came out pretty, 535 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,480 S4: pretty hard and just ran out of puff. And it 536 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,920 S4: got the game got away from him. Uh, it's a, um, 537 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,840 S4: it's an afternoon game, which I think it will be 538 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,959 S4: over there. It'll be an afternoon game over there, so 539 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 S4: could well be a hot day. So it could be. 540 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:40,330 S6: 1935, although. Is that I've got 735 game eastern time. 541 00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:42,970 S4: Yeah. East coast elite time. 542 00:31:43,690 --> 00:31:45,010 S5: So that's like 4:00. 543 00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:48,370 S4: Yeah, that's 4:00 game there. So it's. 544 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:48,850 S6: Okay. 545 00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:50,290 S4: Yeah. Late afternoon game. 546 00:31:50,370 --> 00:31:50,729 S6: Yep. 547 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:56,450 S4: Uh, and, you know, late afternoon in February in Perth 548 00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,209 S4: is not something. Well, I don't run much anyway, but 549 00:31:59,570 --> 00:32:01,330 S4: it's not something I really want to be doing. 550 00:32:01,570 --> 00:32:02,050 S6: Yeah. 551 00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:07,970 S4: So and maybe, you know, that could that could be 552 00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:10,410 S4: a way in for the for you boys, but, um. Yeah, 553 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:12,330 S4: I'm going to take them just because I think they, 554 00:32:12,850 --> 00:32:16,650 S4: they're probably what might have been a bit overegged last week. 555 00:32:17,530 --> 00:32:23,570 S4: So settle into the season now. Last game of the week. Uh, 556 00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:26,010 S4: and this is the game of the weekend. No doubt. 557 00:32:26,650 --> 00:32:31,930 S4: The Crusaders for the Brumbies in Christchurch. Uh, still in 558 00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:36,810 S4: the old stadium, isn't it? Yeah. Apollo projects. That's still 559 00:32:36,810 --> 00:32:37,810 S4: the old stadium, boys. 560 00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:40,690 S6: Uh, no, the new one, I think. Oh. Hold on. 561 00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:41,450 S6: Where are they playing? 562 00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:43,490 S5: Apollo Stadium. 563 00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:45,650 S6: Uh, yeah, it's the new one. They're playing at the 564 00:32:45,650 --> 00:32:46,370 S6: new stadium. 565 00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:49,690 S4: Okay. And that'll be the opening of the new stadium. 566 00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:53,010 S6: Yeah. Yeah, it will be, too, I think. Look, don't 567 00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:55,730 S6: get me. I might have got this wrong. I will, 568 00:32:55,730 --> 00:32:57,250 S6: I will look into it and see. 569 00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:02,050 S4: Yeah. Yeah. Well, you look, I'll, I'll go through the, uh, 570 00:33:02,050 --> 00:33:04,170 S4: the teams for the, for the game of the week. 571 00:33:04,570 --> 00:33:08,810 S4: The Crusaders have gone with the experience package of Finlay Brewers. 572 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:13,650 S4: George Bell. Fletcher Newell. Uh, so furlong Jamie Hannah, Tom Gordon, 573 00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:19,530 S4: they got Blackadder, Christina Norton, Rihanna, Stevie Reece, David. Harvey, 574 00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:24,530 S4: Brayden Chaffey, hockey and Will Jordan. Uh, and then they've 575 00:33:24,530 --> 00:33:27,450 S4: got Cody. You know, when you run out of that, 576 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:30,410 S4: you've got Cody Taylor coming off the bench with Tony 577 00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:37,190 S4: Williams and Leicester Fainga'anuku is the features the Brumbies 1 578 00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:40,260 S4: to 15. Congratulations to James Slipper. I believe this is 579 00:33:40,260 --> 00:33:41,980 S4: his 200th game of Super Rugby. 580 00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:43,780 S6: Yeah awesome isn't it? 581 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,340 S4: Oh mate, you know what a what a guy, what 582 00:33:46,380 --> 00:33:49,980 S4: a warrior. Uh, Billy Pollard, Reece van. Nick. Locky Shaw, 583 00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:53,500 S4: Cayden Neville, Rob valetini, Rory Scott, Charlie Kale who has 584 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:56,300 S4: had a whale of a game last week Ryan Lonergan, 585 00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,980 S4: Declan Meredith, Corey Toole, David Galloway, Caden Pritchard, Ollie Sapsford 586 00:34:00,980 --> 00:34:05,260 S4: and Andy Muirhead. Uh, on the bench you've got Tane Edmed, 587 00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,540 S4: Hudson Crichton, you've got Blake Sharp, Luke Reimer and Ben O'Keeffe. 588 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:14,740 S4: Is the, uh, is the ref Sully, what do you think, mate? 589 00:34:14,739 --> 00:34:16,700 S4: This is game of the weekend, no doubt. 590 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:18,940 S5: And it's it's going to be a. 591 00:34:18,980 --> 00:34:22,660 S4: We'll be interesting because the last time they played it was, 592 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:27,580 S4: to say the least, quite controversial. So I don't think 593 00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:31,700 S4: that really feeds into a new season, but it's certainly there. 594 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:36,069 S5: Uh, yeah I think I think Apollo Project's stadium is 595 00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:38,549 S5: the old one. I it is. Yeah. I thought they 596 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:40,310 S5: were in the new stadium for this whole season, but 597 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:41,150 S5: I must have got that wrong. 598 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:43,870 S6: They're in the new. They start again against the Warriors. 599 00:34:43,910 --> 00:34:45,910 S6: The opening game at the new stadium is when they 600 00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:47,989 S6: play the Waratahs on the 24th of April. 601 00:34:48,469 --> 00:34:54,270 S5: Okay, so, uh, they're in the old stadium. Um. Oh, wow. 602 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:55,190 S5: That obviously. 603 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:55,710 S6: We're there. 604 00:34:56,110 --> 00:35:02,430 S5: Yeah, but so is Canberra. So, um. Yeah. Look, I 605 00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:04,390 S5: had them in the new stadium for some reason, and 606 00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:06,150 S5: I thought that would be enough to get the Crusaders 607 00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:09,590 S5: over the line, but now I'm not so sure. So 608 00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:13,270 S5: I really I'm still going to go with Crusaders because 609 00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:15,149 S5: that was my gut to start with. So I'm going 610 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:16,710 S5: to stick with them. But it's going to be a 611 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:21,029 S5: cracker of a game. The Brumbies just started like they 612 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:23,590 S5: never stopped. Basically, the systems were in place and it 613 00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:27,870 S5: looked great. Um, but the Crusaders are back. They're the 614 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:30,070 S5: the champions. So I'm going to go with the Crusaders 615 00:35:30,070 --> 00:35:33,319 S5: on this one. I know they're slow starters, but go 616 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,319 S5: with my initial initial thoughts and stick with it. So, Carl, 617 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,120 S5: what's your thoughts? 618 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,200 S6: Um, yeah. I think the Crusaders at home will take this. 619 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,359 S6: I think that, um, I think they've got. I actually 620 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,839 S6: just think they've got the team to do it, to 621 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080 S6: be honest, I, I like, although I do like the 622 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,440 S6: Brumbies and if, if they kick on the way they 623 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,319 S6: did I think they'll do well I, I'm not sure 624 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,000 S6: from 12 out there as strong as what they are 625 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,920 S6: from 1 to 12. Um and, and whilst whilst they've 626 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,520 S6: got um Slipper and Pollard going. Well um I thought 627 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,920 S6: Shaw played well. Valentini I don't think has hit his 628 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,359 S6: um has, has hit his tracks yet. Um, as much 629 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,680 S6: as what he wants to um, Charlie Carl was absolutely 630 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,720 S6: fantastic last year. Uh, last weekend. And if he is 631 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,560 S6: definitely a danger man. Um, but I think that after 632 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,770 S6: losing to the Highlanders and at home for their first 633 00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:36,330 S6: game of the season at home. I think the Crusaders 634 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:37,450 S6: will just have too much. 635 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:44,169 S4: Yeah, yeah, I'm torn. I'm torn on this one. Um. 636 00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:50,370 S4: Dan O'Keefe likes it. Likes a contest on the floor. 637 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:55,489 S4: If if I was if I was the Brumbies, I 638 00:36:55,489 --> 00:36:58,129 S4: probably would have wanted to start with Reimer, because he's 639 00:36:58,130 --> 00:37:01,170 S4: just he's probably, you know, one of the best players 640 00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:05,530 S4: on the ground. Uh, I think in Australia really him 641 00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:10,049 S4: you know, obviously there's Mcwright and Tizzano and he, he's 642 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:15,650 S4: probably the next best over the ball. Uh. Yeah. I'm, 643 00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:17,770 S4: I'm going to I'm going to go with the Brumbies. 644 00:37:17,770 --> 00:37:20,690 S4: I just, I just again I just do like them. 645 00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:24,370 S4: They really impressed me last week. They've won me back 646 00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:31,290 S4: over again the the saders it's always I mean It's 647 00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:33,609 S4: it's folly to bet against them. But if you're going 648 00:37:33,610 --> 00:37:35,169 S4: to do it early in the year, it's the time 649 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:39,049 S4: to do so. So yeah, give me the give me 650 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:42,850 S4: the status. But it's give me the Brumbies but not 651 00:37:42,850 --> 00:37:47,730 S4: by much. It'll be a squeaky, squeaky one. But uh, 652 00:37:47,969 --> 00:37:52,370 S4: you know it's yeah I, I, I like the, I 653 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:54,489 S4: like what the Brumbies did last week. I only saw 654 00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:57,850 S4: the highlights but it looked their highlights looked pretty solid. 655 00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:03,450 S4: And the Crusaders were probably were playing better opposition. But 656 00:38:03,489 --> 00:38:09,370 S4: did did look to struggle a fair bit through that game. Yeah. Anyway, 657 00:38:10,210 --> 00:38:18,050 S4: um there we go, boys. That's us through the games again. Yeah. Uh, the. 658 00:38:20,969 --> 00:38:24,850 S4: I'm going to reprise one of our favorite things from 659 00:38:24,850 --> 00:38:27,489 S4: last year. Uh, have you got anything you want to 660 00:38:27,489 --> 00:38:33,339 S4: share at the clouds about, uh, Sally. Are you still 661 00:38:33,340 --> 00:38:35,180 S4: full of the positivity of a new year? 662 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,819 S5: Oh, no. I just saw that we were deciding games by, um, 663 00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:43,580 S5: ten minutes of, uh, uh, super point, and I hate 664 00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:47,220 S5: super point. And, um, I can't see the problem unless 665 00:38:47,219 --> 00:38:49,980 S5: it's a final. You can have a draw. You don't 666 00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:54,859 S5: need to avoid draws. So. Yeah, that's I hate it. 667 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,339 S5: I'm not always going to hate it. I know I'm old, but, uh, 668 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:03,140 S5: it sucks. The first point wins. First point wins. Well, 669 00:39:03,180 --> 00:39:05,340 S5: you know, we could just do the whole game like that. 670 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:07,979 S5: First point wins and we just knock it off after 671 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:11,660 S5: two minutes or whatever. Now it's stupid. 672 00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:15,900 S6: I tend to agree with you, mate. I, I think 673 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:21,779 S6: that during the season, um, because because as they go, 674 00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:24,980 S6: as they go through the season, if, if a team draws, 675 00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:28,900 S6: it actually has an effect on the whole table. And 676 00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:31,109 S6: if a the team's not good enough to win, then 677 00:39:31,110 --> 00:39:33,549 S6: they're not good enough to win. And and the draw 678 00:39:33,590 --> 00:39:36,149 S6: should stand. You've got 80 minutes. You play the draw, 679 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,830 S6: and if you don't win that, then I do agree 680 00:39:38,830 --> 00:39:41,270 S6: that when it comes to knockout, that that it's a 681 00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:42,910 S6: good time to bring it in because you do need 682 00:39:42,910 --> 00:39:45,950 S6: a winner. But but during the season, if you get 683 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:49,629 S6: a team that has four draws, which means they don't 684 00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:54,470 S6: make the finals, well, you know, rather than this again, 685 00:39:54,510 --> 00:39:57,390 S6: I agree with you. This, you know, first point wins crap. 686 00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:59,230 S6: Just be better during the game. 687 00:39:59,950 --> 00:40:03,590 S4: Yeah, yeah. It's a solution to a problem that doesn't 688 00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:04,910 S4: really exist because there's only. 689 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,029 S6: I know exactly. 690 00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:08,790 S4: One, maybe two draws throughout the whole whole season. 691 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:09,950 S6: Yeah. 692 00:40:10,350 --> 00:40:14,630 S4: Because because of the scoring system, you know, seven, five 693 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:18,270 S4: and three. It's kind of you know, it just makes 694 00:40:18,469 --> 00:40:22,390 S4: it's pretty hard to get a 20, you know, 24 overall. 695 00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:23,430 S6: Kind of. Yeah. Exactly. 696 00:40:23,469 --> 00:40:26,589 S4: It's it's a tough thing to for it to manufacture. 697 00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:29,240 S4: So you're creating a problem an answer to a problem 698 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,719 S4: that isn't doesn't exist. 699 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,040 S6: I agree and and you know, I, I actually think it's, 700 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,760 S6: it's part of the issue where you've got Super Rugby 701 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,680 S6: based over here where they're all worried about what league does. 702 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,480 S6: And so they're trying to copy league. And I, I 703 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,320 S6: think that's a huge issue. You know it's like um 704 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,520 S6: it's like the CEO of Super Rugby came out and said, 705 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,439 S6: you know he's glad South Africa is not part of 706 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:01,600 S6: Super Rugby anymore, which to me is an utter, utter 707 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,080 S6: tupid comment to make. You know, both Australia and New 708 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,480 S6: Zealand are suffering because South Africa is not part of 709 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,480 S6: Super Rugby. And certainly as a fan, I'm suffering because 710 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,040 S6: I used to love those games and and I think 711 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,399 S6: that our rugby is suffering because of it. And when 712 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,680 S6: you've got the CEO making a stupid statement like that 713 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,479 S6: and then looking at what's happening to league and trying 714 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,000 S6: to copy that because they've got this deadly fear of that. 715 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200 S6: They have to compete with league and everything. I think 716 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,360 S6: that's a lot of the problem. 717 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,839 S5: Well, Lee's got the problem because it's all about gambling. 718 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,480 S6: Like, yeah. 719 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,200 S5: People complain when there's draws because gambling. But yeah. 720 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,000 S6: Exactly. 721 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,520 S5: Who gives a fuck about canvas correct. 722 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,280 S6: Yeah I, I agree with you. It it's and you 723 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,200 S6: banged it on the head so. Well there um happy 724 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,759 S6: you know it it's a solution to a problem that 725 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,960 S6: doesn't exist. Yeah. Made by stupid people who don't understand rugby. 726 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,040 S4: Yeah, yeah. I, um, my little bit of a rant 727 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,239 S4: this week is, uh, all the all the guys from 728 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,920 S4: the northern hemisphere who were bemoaning the fact of a 729 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,520 S4: 20 minute red card was a bad idea. And, you know, 730 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,920 S4: going down the wrong path and all these sorts of things, 731 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,680 S4: and they're the same English supporters who go, well, you know, 732 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,719 S4: the 20 minute red card for, uh, Harry Arundel on 733 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,290 S4: the weekend saved the game. So, you So it's the 734 00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:31,930 S4: it's exactly the same people who are going to bemoan 735 00:42:31,930 --> 00:42:35,969 S4: any changes that Super Rugby have made. Uh, who then 736 00:42:35,969 --> 00:42:38,970 S4: take them on and go, oh, that's actually a good idea. 737 00:42:39,330 --> 00:42:40,570 S4: Maybe we can evolve. 738 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:42,450 S5: Is this a great idea? 739 00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:46,689 S4: Yeah, exactly. So look. Extra time. Bad idea. I think 740 00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:49,330 S4: we can. We all agree we can shelve that. But 741 00:42:49,330 --> 00:42:51,930 S4: things like the 20 minute red card. And I did 742 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:55,890 S4: enjoy watching the referees make the decisions on the weekend. Again, 743 00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:58,290 S4: you don't necessarily have to agree with them, but when 744 00:42:58,290 --> 00:43:00,450 S4: they make one and you move on, it's kind of 745 00:43:00,730 --> 00:43:03,610 S4: takes it takes the heat away from it. You saw 746 00:43:03,610 --> 00:43:06,930 S4: in the Ireland game where they spent, you know, 20, 747 00:43:06,969 --> 00:43:10,089 S4: you know what, two minutes looking to see whether the 748 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:13,250 S4: Italian guy had made a forward pass. Yeah. And you 749 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:13,649 S4: know it was. 750 00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:15,570 S5: It might take two minutes. It wasn't. 751 00:43:16,330 --> 00:43:16,730 S4: Mm. 752 00:43:16,969 --> 00:43:20,410 S5: It never went backwards at any point. You see as 753 00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:22,810 S5: soon as he's leaving his hands it was going forward 754 00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:24,370 S5: at an angle to the sideline. 755 00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:24,770 S4: Yeah. 756 00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:26,500 S5: I don't know what the I don't know what the 757 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:27,500 S5: whole argument is about. 758 00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,020 S4: But but I guess. 759 00:43:29,180 --> 00:43:34,820 S6: It's just the same as every argument in in rugby. 760 00:43:34,860 --> 00:43:38,220 S6: And that is when it's your team and you're supporting them, 761 00:43:38,219 --> 00:43:39,500 S6: you see things differently. 762 00:43:39,620 --> 00:43:41,220 S7: Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. 763 00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:45,100 S6: To be fair there were a lot of passes in 764 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:47,460 S6: different games that looked worse that will let go. And 765 00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:50,060 S6: I think that's and I think that's the bit that 766 00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:53,420 S6: really that really led to it. It's like well you 767 00:43:53,420 --> 00:43:56,339 S6: know and and they weren't quite the same but they 768 00:43:56,340 --> 00:43:58,419 S6: looked similar. And it's well how come that one went 769 00:43:58,420 --> 00:43:59,260 S6: and this one didn't. 770 00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:02,340 S5: And but that's someone else makes a mistake. Doesn't mean 771 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:05,500 S5: that your ref made the same mistake. It means their 772 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:07,540 S5: ref made a worse mistake. 773 00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:08,940 S6: Yeah, exactly. 774 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,580 S5: Like you're not just because it got away. Someone got 775 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:15,700 S5: away with it in a different, um, circumstance. Doesn't mean 776 00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:17,580 S5: that your decision was wrong. 777 00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:19,180 S6: No. Exactly. 778 00:44:20,580 --> 00:44:20,980 S7: Yeah. 779 00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:24,020 S4: Yeah, I just I just think it's it's such a 780 00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:28,509 S4: subjective thing, I, I recall. You know, um, one one 781 00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:31,790 S4: of my favorite ones was, um, again, this is the 782 00:44:31,790 --> 00:44:35,150 S4: red supporter in me coming out, but, um, the a 783 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,509 S4: few years back, the Reds played the Highlanders and the 784 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:40,549 S4: cross when they did the crossover thing in Covid and 785 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:44,550 S4: the because the forward pass is such a subjective thing, 786 00:44:45,070 --> 00:44:49,750 S4: the commentators were explaining for the two minutes that they 787 00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:52,310 S4: took to disallow the red stripe how it wasn't a 788 00:44:52,310 --> 00:44:54,950 S4: forward pass. And no, this try is going to stand. 789 00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:57,589 S4: And then the TMO is going, oh, it's forward pass. 790 00:44:57,590 --> 00:45:00,430 S4: And it's like, oh well you know. Yeah. Oh well 791 00:45:00,469 --> 00:45:02,350 S4: so bad. Yeah. On we go. 792 00:45:02,910 --> 00:45:04,710 S5: What happened to ten years ago. We were going to 793 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:07,830 S5: get a little bit of electronics inside our footballs to 794 00:45:07,870 --> 00:45:10,110 S5: fix that weren't we. Yeah. What happened to that. 795 00:45:10,469 --> 00:45:10,830 S7: Yeah. 796 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:13,629 S6: The, the the problem with that is that, um, the 797 00:45:13,630 --> 00:45:18,550 S6: electronics in the, in the ball doesn't actually show with 798 00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:21,750 S6: enough fidelity whether the ball was thrown forward out of 799 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:24,550 S6: the hands or not. So when does it actually start 800 00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:27,790 S6: going forward? And you know, if you throw, if you're running, 801 00:45:27,790 --> 00:45:30,189 S6: you throw a straight pass. As soon as it leaves 802 00:45:30,190 --> 00:45:33,430 S6: your hand, it starts going forward. Yeah. Even if you 803 00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:34,310 S6: throw straight. 804 00:45:34,469 --> 00:45:34,870 S7: Yeah. 805 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,989 S6: So so what what they found out was that it 806 00:45:37,989 --> 00:45:41,430 S6: actually there was not enough, um, there not enough accuracy 807 00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:43,790 S6: in the, in the measurements for them to be able 808 00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:44,590 S6: to use it. 809 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:45,189 S7: Yeah. Yeah. 810 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:47,950 S5: That's that's unfortunate. That would have taken a whole that 811 00:45:47,950 --> 00:45:50,430 S5: would have got rid of half the internet, rugby, internet. 812 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:53,069 S6: No it wouldn't, it just would have, just would have 813 00:45:53,110 --> 00:45:54,750 S6: meant they would have looked for something else to find 814 00:45:54,750 --> 00:45:56,350 S6: out about mates. Yeah. 815 00:45:58,270 --> 00:45:59,870 S4: Well, if you want, if you want to see the 816 00:45:59,870 --> 00:46:02,870 S4: scary part of the, uh, rugby internet, jump on some 817 00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:05,350 S4: of the South African commenters. Oh, my God, they're weird. 818 00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:05,830 S7: Um. 819 00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:10,230 S4: Yeah, we. But anyway, um. Well, gents, I think that's 820 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:15,469 S4: about us for tonight. Uh, we're again. It's, uh, week two, 821 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:18,750 S4: so aren't we? You know, we're certainly looking forward to it. Uh, 822 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:21,910 S4: third week of the of the Six Nations. For those who, uh, 823 00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:26,120 S4: have that particular bent, don't need to sleep during the weekend. Uh, 824 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,200 S4: Scotland got Wales, so fingers crossed they can lose that 825 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,320 S4: one quite easily. That's the way they play. 826 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,360 S5: Well, it's not England so you know. 827 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,520 S4: Yeah, I know we're we're reverting back to the mean 828 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,640 S4: which is, which is average at best sometimes. But that's the, 829 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,920 S4: that's the joys of being a Scotland supporter. Um, everyone 830 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,359 S4: thanks for your support. If you've gotten this far, if 831 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560 S4: we've earned a tick or a like or a follow 832 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,640 S4: or anything like that, please do. So, uh, jump on, 833 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,240 S4: send us a send us a message. If you disagree 834 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,560 S4: with something we've said or anything we've done vehemently, we 835 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,279 S4: do enjoy that. Um, get down to your local club. 836 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,480 S4: As I say before, buy a beer, become a member. Uh, 837 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,360 S4: and thanks very much for now. See you boys. 838 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,680 S7: See you guys. See you mate. 839 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,080 S1: You don't know anything about rugby. Don't talk. 840 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000 S2: Gregor. Drop goal from Larkham. 841 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,160 S3: Australian Greek forward. They've got the. 842 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,880 S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.