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S4: And welcome to the fifth game of teams for the year.

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S4: and Gold Rugby. Com. Uh, evening, Sully. How you going?

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S5: I'm going. Good, mate. I had a great weekend. Uh, Queen, uh,

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S5: Uh, I love that. Between the between the legs, uh,

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S6: Going very well. As I said. The old pacemakers ticking

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S5: Um, I don't think you really want to put the

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S4: Jordie Barrett there. Billy Proctor and Josh Moorby, uh, quality team,

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S5: Um, we can say whatever we like this week, can't we? Because, uh,

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S5: Yeah. I want to say a couple of things about

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S5: the Waratahs have a problem, uh, with their outside centre in, uh. Uh, suaalii. Um,

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S5: I'm not sure, but, um, this is going to be

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S7: Yep.

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S7: Um.

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S4: Mate. It hurts. It hurts.

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S6: A little. It's it's going to be one of those

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S6: We've seen that in a good few games. But having

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S6: said that, I hope it's a good open game. Amateur.

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S6: A while back I did a thing on green on

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S6: I hate this word enforcer because I think it's a

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S6: reckon he's pretty good. Um, and, uh, we've matched Philip. He's,

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S6: a nice that's a nice pairing. The canes. Um, Callum Harkin,

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S6: Now what I don't know is where Reuben Love is,

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S6: Is. He was talking about him as. As being the canes. Ten. Mm. Um,

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S4: 2 to 4 weeks. Yeah. Uh. Right. Okay.

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S6: So on that basis I'm going I am going to

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S4: Fair enough.

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S4: I'm everyone. He's one of those things. Everyone sort of

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S4: I just wonder whether that's starting to put some miles

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S4: I just wonder whether that that will be the, the,

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S4: And that's probably what's getting the most out of him

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S4: And I think Pete Simon's role in that can't be

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S4: That's what that's kind of the thing that annoys me

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S4: not not into that as much. I'm again, same as you,

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S4: Sally Hertz. I'm going to take the tires just because

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S4: I'm going to go with stars.

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S7: Yeah. Yeah, but.

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S4: Who who can complain about that. Uh, next game along.

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S4: We've got the, uh, Highlanders v the force uh, at

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S4: David Palau, Darby Lancaster, Matt Greeley, Nick Darcy, uh, the

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S4: Argentinian guy Epenesa uh Molina drops to the bench. Uh,

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S4: Will Harris, Harry Robertson, Max Burey and Kurtley Beale with blockers.

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S4: They are as the ref. Uh, cracking game. Highlanders travelling

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S7: Um.

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S6: Two very evenly matched teams again, I reckon. Um, I

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S6: was looking very, very puzzled at the referee. But whether I,

435
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,199
S6: you know, I don't know what goes on in the

436
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,040
S6: front row, but, uh, that could be a possible weak link.

437
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,880
S6: But I'm glad to see that Jeremy Williams is back

438
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,040
S6: in the in the second row where he should be

439
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,600
S6: because that that that gives that gives the force a

440
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,240
S6: really nicely balanced back row. I reckon. Um, champion de

441
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,399
S6: Crespigny is a big lump carrier. Um, Tizzano is there

442
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,480
S6: on the ball merchant and An Aussie who I rate

443
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,760
S6: very highly as well. So that could be that could

444
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,879
S6: be where the games won and lost for me actually

445
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,920
S6: in the back rows.

446
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,719
S7: Mhm.

447
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,840
S6: Um, I fancy the force's chances to be honest, but

448
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,760
S6: not by many.

449
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:35,959
S7: Mm.

450
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760
S6: Ben Donaldson another good game.

451
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,679
S7: Mm.

452
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,080
S6: You know steer them around the park. Could be, could

453
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,560
S6: be good.

454
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,920
S7: Yeah. Yeah.

455
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800
S4: BPA coming back shores up their front row because he's

456
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,240
S4: good scrummaging hooker as well. Um what do you reckon, Sally.

457
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,720
S5: I am going to go with the force. I'm also

458
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,080
S5: very happy to see Jeremy Williams back in the row. Um,

459
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,400
S5: I think he struggled. Not struggled. It's the wrong word,

460
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,760
S5: but he's had to cover for champion de Crespigny. So, um,

461
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560
S5: now that he's back, we can they can start with

462
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,080
S5: their rotations in the second row instead of, like, burning

463
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,120
S5: the guts out of those two second rowers like they

464
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,240
S5: were playing big minutes last year. So now they can, uh,

465
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840
S5: start their rotation in the second row. So that's a

466
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:30,399
S5: good thing. Um. I fancy the, uh, the force for this.

467
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,120
S5: Tell you the truth, um, I'm a little bit worried.

468
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,880
S5: I don't, um, Nathan Hasty. Just. I wish he was

469
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,720
S5: a bit more. A bit more? Is that the word

470
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,159
S5: I'm looking for?

471
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,400
S7: Just more. Yeah, I want.

472
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:46,520
S5: More.

473
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,080
S7: For you.

474
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,400
S5: Um, but, um. Yeah. Um, aside from that, I'm. I'm

475
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,400
S5: pretty happy with how how the rest of them are going.

476
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,440
S5: I love what they're doing. Um, George bridges, um, no. Try.

477
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,239
S5: Last weekend was shocking. Shockingly bad for for an all

478
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040
S5: black to, uh, experience professional.

479
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,000
S7: Yeah, yeah.

480
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600
S5: But, um, besides from that, they went pretty well last week.

481
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,399
S5: The Highlanders. Um, yeah, they're a good side, and they'll

482
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,520
S5: be hard to beat, But I think the force can

483
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,520
S5: do this. So I'm going to go with the force

484
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,040
S5: on this one.

485
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,240
S7: Yeah, yeah.

486
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,440
S4: No, look, I'm, uh, similarly, I'm, I'm going with, with, uh,

487
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600
S4: with the Fauci boys. I'm back on them after them

488
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,159
S4: letting me down for the week, uh, one and two. But, uh,

489
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,080
S4: I'm not all the way back. I'm just. I'm hopeful, but, uh, no,

490
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880
S4: they look, I think they'll they'll benefit from not having

491
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,560
S4: to bounce around. Uh, they've obviously stayed the week in, uh,

492
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,040
S4: in New Zealand so that they haven't had the, have the,

493
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:53,000
S4: had the travel component. Um, and to to Butz's point,

494
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,800
S4: I think if you look at four five, 678 for

495
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,560
S4: the force being William Swain to me to Zeno, and

496
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,399
S4: that's basically an international back five or, you know, in

497
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:13,320
S4: your scrum, uh, and the, the, apart from Dunshea, everyone

498
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,160
S4: else in the, um, in the Highlanders back five are

499
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,960
S4: kind of just guys just, you know, Jimmys and Joes, uh,

500
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,320
S4: with respect that. So you you I feel that the

501
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,240
S4: force could have a could have a bit of a, um,

502
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,520
S4: an advantage there. Uh, and Iowa is a problem. Uh,

503
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600
S4: interesting to hear the Reds talk about how they they

504
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,360
S4: focused on him in attack to try and make him

505
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,800
S4: work a bit more, uh, to try and take him

506
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,160
S4: out of the game in that respect to. Because they

507
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760
S4: were they thought his lateral movement wasn't as strong. Uh,

508
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160
S4: so they were they were actually asking him a lot

509
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800
S4: of questions with their attack. So whether the force actually

510
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,600
S4: take that on and, and, and go down that go

511
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920
S4: down that channel, which can be brave because clearly he's,

512
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200
S4: he's quite good. But if you're making him make those

513
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080
S4: tackling decisions, he can't get over the ball because he's

514
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,719
S4: he is like another back rower in the, in the center. So, uh,

515
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,440
S4: Give me the force. But it's. It would be. It

516
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,080
S4: would be crazy to think that the force would go

517
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,240
S4: two and two for their first four games and lose

518
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
S4: their first two at home. Uh, but I'm I'm here

519
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,920
S4: for it. I think that's, uh, part of the benefit

520
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,600
S4: of the comp this year. Uh, next Saturday game is

521
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,640
S4: the Blues with the Crusaders at Eden Park. Uh, this is.

522
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,760
S7: Going to be they they.

523
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,200
S5: Both love or both hate.

524
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,200
S7: It.

525
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
S4: I think they both love it, but it depends on

526
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280
S4: the it depends who loves it more on the outcome. But, uh,

527
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,120
S4: gotta be considered game of the week. This should be

528
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:56,680
S4: an absolute cracker. Uh, blues have got, uh, turanga. Eklund, Renata. Uh,

529
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,760
S4: the Dalton, Papalii, Hoskins, Sotutu Finlay, Christie Perofeta, Caleb Clarke,

530
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,400
S4: AJ lan zhan Sullivan quality front to back. Uh, but

531
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,630
S4: they got that bum Bowden Barrett coming off the bench

532
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:14,470
S4: for the first time in this year. Uh, singer who

533
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:17,150
S4: I like is in the off the bench as well.

534
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:20,990
S4: Just a quality team going to be the bringing the

535
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:26,670
S4: jumbo package. The crusaders of uh you'd have to suggest

536
00:30:27,310 --> 00:30:31,470
S4: have gone also similarly, uh, interesting to see Tamati Williams

537
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:35,390
S4: got suspended off the last game. He's got a three week.

538
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:42,550
S4: He got a three week suspension. Uh, but we've got, uh, Bauer, Cody. Taylor, Fletcher. Newell, cephalon, Hannah, uh,

539
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:47,110
S4: Ethan Blackett and Christian. Uh, they just look a little.

540
00:30:47,310 --> 00:30:49,670
S4: I'm not sure about their halves quite yet with Hotham

541
00:30:49,670 --> 00:30:53,950
S4: and Hannah, but they just haven't answered all the questions

542
00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:56,750
S4: to the test yet. But, uh, the class outside them

543
00:30:56,790 --> 00:31:02,710
S4: of Reece Havili, Leicester Fainga'anuku and uh, Kamara on the

544
00:31:02,750 --> 00:31:06,270
S4: at the back is pretty darn good obviously Will Jordan

545
00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:10,750
S4: is either being injured or rested. Um, the bench is

546
00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:14,750
S4: a little bit less. Bit. Bit. No name. Uh, Kyle

547
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:18,630
S4: Preston made a big impact when he played last, last year.

548
00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:22,270
S4: But again, the rest of their their replacements are sort

549
00:31:22,270 --> 00:31:26,590
S4: of a bit. Don't know who they are. Um, but

550
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:31,190
S4: probably still gaming around just just based on, um, pedigree

551
00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:34,470
S4: more than anything else. Sally, what are your thoughts, mate?

552
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:39,790
S5: Oh, it's going to be a cracker. Um, uh, you

553
00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:42,230
S5: all know that I have a soft spot for the blues,

554
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:45,950
S5: and that's that's the only thing I'm. I'm basing my

555
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:48,910
S5: prediction on. Uh, blues are at home. Uh, I love

556
00:31:48,910 --> 00:31:54,630
S5: the way they play. Um, I love their coach, so, uh. But, Crusaders,

557
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:58,790
S5: you just can't give him an inch. But, uh, I'm

558
00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:00,110
S5: going to go with the Blues this week.

559
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:02,510
S7: Yeah, I'm I'm I.

560
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:04,630
S4: Know you've got a thing for closers.

561
00:32:05,230 --> 00:32:06,430
S7: Yeah, yeah. Yep.

562
00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:09,950
S5: So, um. I'm waiting. Waiting for the Reds. Bulldozers come

563
00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:14,150
S5: through next year, but, um. But, uh, this is going

564
00:32:14,150 --> 00:32:15,910
S5: to be a cracker. I I'm definitely going to be

565
00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:17,590
S5: sitting down and watching this one. I'm going to I'm

566
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:21,510
S5: going to love every second of it. So, um. Yeah. Um,

567
00:32:21,550 --> 00:32:24,430
S5: I'm going to go look, it's a toss up, but

568
00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:26,670
S5: we said we're going to pick a team. No fence sitting.

569
00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:28,790
S5: So it's the Blue's Clues.

570
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:32,430
S4: So it's the blue's. What about you, Butsey? What do

571
00:32:32,430 --> 00:32:33,390
S4: what do you reckon, mate?

572
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:35,950
S6: Um, I think I'm going with the blues as well,

573
00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:39,710
S6: but again, it should be a really good game between

574
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:44,710
S6: two good sides. Um, I'm interested to see how Hoskins

575
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:48,190
S6: Sotutu goes, purely for the fact he's going to be

576
00:32:48,190 --> 00:32:50,990
S6: playing in the UK in 2027.

577
00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:51,390
S7: Mm.

578
00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:52,030
S6: And they're.

579
00:32:52,030 --> 00:32:52,590
S7: Talking about.

580
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:56,750
S6: They're talking about him as a potential number eight for England.

581
00:32:57,390 --> 00:33:00,150
S6: And to be honest, I didn't I don't reckon he

582
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:06,990
S6: did all that much against the Brumbies uh over the weekend. But, um, yeah,

583
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:09,910
S6: it's going to be, uh, it's going to be a

584
00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:12,030
S6: tough going to be a tough game. But I think

585
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:14,270
S6: that I think the Blues are going to, uh, are

586
00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:17,150
S6: going to, are going to do it. But as they say. Right.

587
00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:19,230
S6: The Crusaders off at your peril.

588
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:22,870
S4: Mhm. Mhm. Yeah.

589
00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:24,709
S5: Like for the life of me. Can't see figure out

590
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:28,310
S5: how the All Blacks haven't um locked down Hoskins. Sotutu.

591
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:31,310
S6: You would have thought they would do wouldn't they. Because you, you,

592
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:34,550
S6: you need for every, every position going into the World

593
00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:39,910
S6: Cup you need three I reckon. Three at least. Yeah.

594
00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:44,190
S6: In each position. And last year for the Blues, I

595
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:45,230
S6: thought he was great.

596
00:33:45,910 --> 00:33:47,910
S5: Yeah. But it's a very good player.

597
00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:50,950
S4: Yeah. But in, in the back, you know in the,

598
00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:53,270
S4: in the back of the scrum, the going to the

599
00:33:53,270 --> 00:33:54,750
S4: All Blacks scrum in the back of the scrum they

600
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:59,390
S4: got what CTT um Savea still they've still got to

601
00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:02,390
S4: the severe problem. I mean he's you know he's too

602
00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:05,590
S4: good to play To not play. But is he the

603
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:07,750
S4: best eight. Is he the best seven? Um.

604
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:10,230
S5: Well, he is the best eight and the best seven.

605
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,470
S4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't know if you've noticed,

606
00:34:13,469 --> 00:34:14,950
S4: he's actually quite good at rugby.

607
00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:17,190
S6: Yeah, yeah. He's not bad.

608
00:34:17,670 --> 00:34:20,310
S4: Yeah. So he's probably. Yeah.

609
00:34:20,830 --> 00:34:22,589
S5: It could be the best six if he wanted to.

610
00:34:22,910 --> 00:34:23,350
S5: You know.

611
00:34:23,989 --> 00:34:26,270
S4: I'd tell him to be the best ten and their

612
00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:28,870
S4: best tighthead lock tighthead prop if they needed him to

613
00:34:28,910 --> 00:34:31,430
S4: you know like it's just strikes me as that's the

614
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:34,549
S4: and could probably play on the wing. You know it's

615
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:37,549
S4: just he's just quite good. He's just born to be.

616
00:34:37,790 --> 00:34:41,589
S4: He's just the man. Um as much as it hurts

617
00:34:41,590 --> 00:34:43,910
S4: to say that. But, uh, look, I'm going to take

618
00:34:43,910 --> 00:34:48,910
S4: the saders, the saders, you know, they went they went into,

619
00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:53,069
S4: you know, they went to the Chiefs last week. I

620
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:55,790
S4: had 14 put on them early, haven't taken 50 the

621
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:59,830
S4: week before, and a lesser team would have rolled over.

622
00:34:59,830 --> 00:35:03,030
S4: And then they proceeded to put what, 34 unanswered on

623
00:35:03,070 --> 00:35:08,630
S4: the Chiefs. You know that talks about real. You know I,

624
00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:11,790
S4: I think it's an overused word but you know I

625
00:35:11,830 --> 00:35:14,149
S4: that talks of real culture, real class.

626
00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:17,750
S5: Well it's like it was like 1907 or something and

627
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:22,029
S5: it ended up 40. Yeah. Yeah or something. Yeah.

628
00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:26,430
S4: Yeah yeah. And, and but then you know, they for

629
00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:30,629
S4: some somehow the, they were, they were second best for

630
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:33,750
S4: 35 minutes and managed to go in at half time

631
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:34,470
S4: with a lead.

632
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:35,870
S5: Yeah.

633
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:38,870
S4: And that's what just takes the soul away from another

634
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:43,149
S4: team is you go we've outplayed you all game and

635
00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:47,510
S4: you're still beating us like this. And you know so

636
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:51,589
S4: and even the game like I think even the one

637
00:35:51,590 --> 00:35:53,029
S4: of the games they lost earlier in the year, I

638
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:56,469
S4: think it was round one. They when they lost they

639
00:35:56,469 --> 00:35:59,190
S4: were still trying to play the rugby like the Highlanders

640
00:35:59,230 --> 00:36:01,540
S4: beat them. But it was kind of it was kind

641
00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:04,540
S4: of like a bit of a penalty at the end.

642
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:06,540
S4: It was kind of like the the Crusaders were trying

643
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:11,100
S4: to get further ahead. So yeah, I think that, you know,

644
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:15,180
S4: to quote the boys from the rugby report card, sailors

645
00:36:15,180 --> 00:36:19,820
S4: are going to say they just, you know, step above us.

646
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:24,460
S4: That's my view. But I've been I've been wrong before.

647
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:27,100
S4: I had a terrible tipping round round one. But I,

648
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:33,460
S4: I came back strong last week. Um. Very close run thing.

649
00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:36,379
S4: Next one up is the probably the second, you know,

650
00:36:36,420 --> 00:36:38,859
S4: second best game of the week or depending on your

651
00:36:38,860 --> 00:36:41,500
S4: Australian perspective, the best game of the week. We've got

652
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:45,140
S4: the the Brumbies v the Reds at in Canberra early

653
00:36:45,140 --> 00:36:48,379
S4: in the year. Uh, let's go through both teams in

654
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:53,300
S4: detail because uh, frankly we're in a strange podcast. Um

655
00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:57,180
S4: Brumbies have got slipper Pollard, Rhys van Nick Locky Shaw,

656
00:36:57,219 --> 00:37:14,620
S4: Cayden Neville uh to to Ana. To Alima. Rory. Scott. Charlie. Kael. Ryan. Lonergan. Declan. Meredith. Uh, Corey. Toole, David. Pritchard. Ollie. Sapsford, Andy. Muirhead. Uh, Liam. Bowden. Brake. Shop.

657
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:20,380
S4: Uh alatini. McPherson, Luke. Reimer, Clayton. Thorne, Tony and Hudson.

658
00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:23,859
S4: Crichton on the bench for the mighty Reds. We've got, uh,

659
00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:29,700
S4: Aidan Ross, Josh Nasser, Xangongo Josh Canham, Lukhan Salakaia-loto. Joe Fraser. Mcreight.

660
00:37:29,739 --> 00:37:35,620
S4: Harry Wilson, Louis Watson, Carter. Gordon, Filipo Daugunu. Isaac. Henry's starting, uh,

661
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:39,420
S4: with Hunter. He's got an injury. Josh fluke, Lucky Anderson,

662
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:45,180
S4: Josh Campbell, um, Richard, George Blake and Toomaga-allen come off

663
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:51,500
S4: the bench with Sarah Uru, um Hla-a2, Kalani Thomas, Henry McLauchlan,

664
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:56,140
S4: Phillips and Trayvon Pritchard also on the bench. Pritchard v Pritchard.

665
00:37:56,140 --> 00:38:00,940
S4: They're both Queensland boys, uh, referee Angus Gardner, I'm going

666
00:38:00,940 --> 00:38:03,100
S4: to go with the voice of reason being. But first

667
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,460
S4: because I think I know where Sally might go with

668
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:05,900
S4: this one.

669
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:08,420
S5: Are you going to be surprised?

670
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:12,460
S6: Well, again, I'll tell you what. This is probably one

671
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:15,140
S6: of the best. I know we've had some good rugby

672
00:38:15,340 --> 00:38:18,180
S6: last weekend, but I reckon this this weekend could be

673
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:21,259
S6: better in terms of, um, in terms of the match

674
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:24,500
S6: ups we've got, because this could be another an absolute

675
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:30,260
S6: cracking game. Um, very even up front. Um, I'll be

676
00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:35,060
S6: interested to see the battle between, um, Shaw and old

677
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:41,460
S6: man Neville and, um, Josh cannon and, uh, salakaia-loto. Um,

678
00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:47,460
S6: the back rows. They're all very. They're very even as well. Charlie.

679
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:52,820
S6: Kel's playing like a house on fire. Um, Joe Brown

680
00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:59,100
S6: putting a damn good shift last. weekend. Harry Wilson as well. Right. That's.

681
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:03,219
S6: They're classy players. And, um, I reckon we could be

682
00:39:03,219 --> 00:39:05,620
S6: in for another treat. So I should be sitting in

683
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,700
S6: front of the TV with a few beers, but, um,

684
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,219
S6: I want to. I want to see, um, Jimmy slips

685
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:17,700
S6: be set up with another try by Kayden Neville because

686
00:39:18,060 --> 00:39:20,100
S6: he's like, he's been given a new lease of life.

687
00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,219
S6: You know, he's been playing 55 minutes of really good

688
00:39:24,219 --> 00:39:26,540
S6: rugby for an old bloke. He's not doing too bad.

689
00:39:28,380 --> 00:39:31,540
S6: So I'm going to go for the good old Reds.

690
00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:36,219
S4: Welcome. Welcome aboard mate. Welcome aboard.

691
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:38,940
S6: Well they are. I've picked them for my team this

692
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:39,540
S6: season anyway.

693
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:42,940
S4: Yeah. Sally, I have a feeling you're going to go

694
00:39:42,940 --> 00:39:43,980
S4: against them this week.

695
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:45,460
S5: Yeah, I'm going to go with the Brumbies because I

696
00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:48,140
S5: don't I don't think the Reds can do them. Um

697
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:51,060
S5: I don't think it's even up front. I don't think

698
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,940
S5: our front rowers as good as their front row. Um Um.

699
00:39:55,380 --> 00:39:57,500
S5: Second rows. I think we've got it. Back row. We've

700
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:01,140
S5: got it. But, um, Declan Meredith and Ryan Lonergan have

701
00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:03,140
S5: been setting the world on fire as far as I'm concerned.

702
00:40:03,140 --> 00:40:07,779
S5: So they've got I think they've got us in the halves. Um, yeah,

703
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:10,819
S5: it's going to be. It could be even or or

704
00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:13,820
S5: the Brumbies might just overpower us because they're just sat

705
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:17,940
S5: well oiled and, um, just everyone knows their role and

706
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:20,060
S5: what they're going to do. So it's a tough one.

707
00:40:20,060 --> 00:40:23,739
S5: But I'm going with the Brumbies mate I that's I'm

708
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:29,340
S5: disappointed with the props for the Reds this year. Um

709
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:33,580
S5: so and our scrum and our line hasn't been great.

710
00:40:33,580 --> 00:40:37,500
S5: So um yeah I'm looking forward to it getting better.

711
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,380
S5: But this week I think the Brumbies are going to

712
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:39,780
S5: do us.

713
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:47,739
S4: Yes. Well mate I'm I'm like my heart obviously read

714
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:51,020
S4: till I'm dead but same as yourself. But I, I

715
00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:53,020
S4: am actually going to go the same way this week.

716
00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:55,340
S4: I think the I was super impressed with how the

717
00:40:55,340 --> 00:40:59,859
S4: Brumbies found a way last week. Uh, they were on

718
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:02,340
S4: their off week, I think. You know, I'd love to

719
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:05,220
S4: think the Reds could be two and two, but similar

720
00:41:05,219 --> 00:41:09,899
S4: to you I'm my. My big concern is the the

721
00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:12,620
S4: backup front row for the Reds I think is is

722
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:15,060
S4: a concern, which means I think they're going to have

723
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:18,259
S4: to rely on on Aidan Ross and saying, I'm going

724
00:41:18,260 --> 00:41:21,899
S4: to go a bit deep. Uh, Tim Allen is is

725
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:25,580
S4: still a good player. Uh, but he's, you know, I

726
00:41:25,580 --> 00:41:29,900
S4: think he's, he's, he's that old professional who's showing the,

727
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,580
S4: you know, the younger guys how to play. Um, bearing

728
00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:35,500
S4: in mind he's coming on, he's been a loose head

729
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,739
S4: his whole career and he's coming on at reserve tighthead.

730
00:41:39,219 --> 00:41:44,220
S4: So you know so 37 he's transitioning to tighthead. Um

731
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,340
S4: you know George George Blake is is a hooker prop

732
00:41:48,340 --> 00:41:51,299
S4: which generally means you you know you're not quite good

733
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,620
S4: enough to be a hooker, and you're not quite good

734
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:55,740
S4: enough to be a prop. Um, it could be nice.

735
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,900
S4: Good player and all that sort of stuff. So just. Yeah,

736
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:01,859
S4: I just worry about that. Blake shop is is is

737
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:06,060
S4: a good player. He's a good player. Um, yeah. I

738
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:08,260
S4: just think I'm with you. I think they may edge

739
00:42:08,260 --> 00:42:13,379
S4: us up front. Um, loss of, uh, is a is

740
00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:17,300
S4: a blow. I don't get me wrong, Isaac Henry two,

741
00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:20,180
S4: three years ago was he was he was going to

742
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:22,700
S4: be a wallaby. He's had a horrendous run with injuries.

743
00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:25,940
S4: And I can only hope that's behind him now. Like he's,

744
00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:29,299
S4: you know, had a really, really, really bad knee. Then

745
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:33,540
S4: he's done another knee. Um, and he's just, you know,

746
00:42:33,739 --> 00:42:37,380
S4: but when he just before he did his last big injury,

747
00:42:37,540 --> 00:42:41,419
S4: he'd basically taken his job off him. Yeah. Uh, and people.

748
00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:43,700
S5: Were saying hunt Hunter who. Yeah.

749
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:49,090
S4: Correct. Uh, so you know, but but you wonder for

750
00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:52,689
S4: a 412 whether that's kind of, you know, you get

751
00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:55,010
S4: 2 or 3, you know, couple of bad knee injuries.

752
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:57,410
S4: And they weren't they weren't, you know, one of them

753
00:42:57,410 --> 00:43:01,250
S4: was like a patella, like he broke his patella or something.

754
00:43:01,250 --> 00:43:03,770
S4: And he did that kick or it was really bad.

755
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:06,770
S4: So I can only hope he's going to be the

756
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:09,890
S4: Isaac Henry who was, who was at that level. Um,

757
00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:13,090
S4: and not, you know, still coming back.

758
00:43:13,730 --> 00:43:16,290
S5: Uh, he played the end. He played against the Lions though,

759
00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:16,810
S5: didn't he?

760
00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:19,450
S4: He did play against the Lions. So he's had he's

761
00:43:19,450 --> 00:43:19,890
S4: had off.

762
00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:21,290
S5: For a while. Yeah.

763
00:43:21,610 --> 00:43:24,530
S4: Yeah. And he hasn't been listed as injured at any stage.

764
00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:28,050
S4: So I can only hope that after a really good,

765
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:32,689
S4: you know, rehab recovery that he's back and playing at

766
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:33,210
S4: a level.

767
00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:37,210
S5: Um tell you who was really good to see last

768
00:43:37,210 --> 00:43:40,930
S5: week was Josh fluke and talk about rugby brains.

769
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:41,890
S4: Yeah.

770
00:43:42,530 --> 00:43:45,010
S5: Not the most physically gifted guy in the world, but

771
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:48,410
S5: really good brain. Josh Fluke is an impressive rugby player.

772
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,570
S4: Yeah. And it's hard to like has really good timing

773
00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:54,810
S4: with his with his tackles. Like that's that's the thing

774
00:43:54,810 --> 00:43:57,930
S4: he hits and sticks really really well. So yeah I

775
00:43:58,090 --> 00:44:00,690
S4: look I like the Queensland team Carter Gordon with the

776
00:44:00,690 --> 00:44:03,450
S4: run under his belt I think we're on. And Gordon

777
00:44:03,969 --> 00:44:09,609
S4: sort of match better than Virtanen McLaughlin Phillips because I

778
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:13,770
S4: think Thomas and McLaughlin Phillips would work well because Thomas

779
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:16,530
S4: at this level is more of a passing halfback. McLaughlin

780
00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:18,690
S4: Phillips more of a runner, which is more of a

781
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:21,690
S4: run first guy. So you know, so that kind of

782
00:44:21,730 --> 00:44:24,890
S4: is the balance component. Uh, I see where the Reds

783
00:44:25,610 --> 00:44:27,730
S4: Tom line is still listed as injured. So that's what

784
00:44:27,730 --> 00:44:33,410
S4: it is. Um, yeah. I'm regretfully going to take the Brumbies.

785
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:35,569
S4: Mostly it'll be close and mostly because they're at home.

786
00:44:35,570 --> 00:44:37,690
S4: But I just think the last 20 they'll finish a

787
00:44:37,690 --> 00:44:42,730
S4: bit stronger. So yeah that's what that's where I'm at.

788
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:47,130
S5: Um see. So the sign had went with the Reds

789
00:44:47,330 --> 00:44:49,890
S5: and the two red supporters went with the Brumbies. Have

790
00:44:49,890 --> 00:44:50,969
S5: we got that? Yeah.

791
00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:53,730
S4: Yeah. Well the Johnny come Johnny come lately the red

792
00:44:53,730 --> 00:44:58,250
S4: supporters has gone stuck true. And frankly I hope he's right.

793
00:44:58,850 --> 00:44:59,250
S5: Yeah.

794
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:01,930
S6: Well actually you know from what you've listening to your

795
00:45:01,930 --> 00:45:05,970
S6: discussion I see where you're coming from, you know, so, uh, I'm, I'm,

796
00:45:05,969 --> 00:45:08,250
S6: I'm going to I'm still going to go with the Reds,

797
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,209
S6: but it's going to be a be a hard game

798
00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:12,210
S6: for them to win. Hard game.

799
00:45:12,610 --> 00:45:16,610
S4: Yeah. And look and honestly you know like the Brumbies

800
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:19,009
S4: are easy to support as a Reds fan because basically

801
00:45:19,010 --> 00:45:23,410
S4: they're the you know the act pinkos because slipper slippers

802
00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:28,490
S4: are a Queenslander van Nick's of Queenslander. Tua Lima's a Queenslander.

803
00:45:28,690 --> 00:45:36,610
S4: Um Declan Meredith's from Townsville. He's from Queensland. Cayden Pritchard's

804
00:45:36,610 --> 00:45:39,370
S4: a Queenslander Andy Muirhead's a Queenslander. So you know like

805
00:45:40,090 --> 00:45:45,049
S4: it's basically supporting your home team anyway. Well But you

806
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:48,650
S4: know the two you know of of the of the

807
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:52,890
S4: Brumbies coaching. You've got um Larkham who's obviously from down there,

808
00:45:52,930 --> 00:45:55,730
S4: you're Ben Mowen who's a Queenslander. You got uh Rob.

809
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:59,770
S4: See also Queenslander. So you know so it's we're not

810
00:45:59,770 --> 00:46:08,609
S4: even really crossing the fence that badly. Um, anyway, that's uh,

811
00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:14,330
S4: that's where we're at, mate. Uh. Let's just touch on

812
00:46:14,330 --> 00:46:19,130
S4: one thing. Your last chance, uh, last chance for the night, boys.

813
00:46:19,130 --> 00:46:21,529
S4: Shouting at clouds. Anything that annoyed you. Anything you want

814
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:23,930
S4: to get off your chest. I'll go first, if you like.

815
00:46:23,930 --> 00:46:27,250
S4: I'll give you a moment to ruminate upon it. Um,

816
00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:33,009
S4: the Reds early in the year. Don't you know? I know,

817
00:46:33,010 --> 00:46:35,810
S4: I know Super Rugby's got to do the do the scheduling.

818
00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:39,970
S4: But we have daylight saving up here. So I managed

819
00:46:39,969 --> 00:46:44,009
S4: to get to the game last week, But with East

820
00:46:44,010 --> 00:46:47,810
S4: coast non-elite time, it means it's a six foot 635

821
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:51,489
S4: kick off in Queensland at Queensland time. So if you're

822
00:46:51,489 --> 00:46:55,930
S4: going to have us playing at the 635 slot, make

823
00:46:55,930 --> 00:47:00,770
S4: it Saturday or wait until after Easter when everyone's, you know,

824
00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:03,730
S4: in Australia on the eastern seaboard is on the same

825
00:47:03,730 --> 00:47:08,850
S4: time because trying to get to Suncorp on for 635

826
00:47:08,890 --> 00:47:12,610
S4: kick off on a Friday night is very tough. And

827
00:47:12,610 --> 00:47:15,009
S4: if you don't live in Brisbane, which I know some

828
00:47:15,010 --> 00:47:18,330
S4: of us don't who want to make the game, it's

829
00:47:18,330 --> 00:47:19,410
S4: just too hard.

830
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:22,610
S5: Yeah, we don't do it anymore. Yeah. Too hard.

831
00:47:23,210 --> 00:47:26,730
S4: Yeah, well, I know you're an hour away or an

832
00:47:26,730 --> 00:47:27,530
S4: hour and a bit away.

833
00:47:27,850 --> 00:47:29,730
S5: On a good run. Yeah.

834
00:47:30,610 --> 00:47:34,410
S4: And frankly, you know, on a Friday night, there's no

835
00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:35,090
S4: good run.

836
00:47:35,850 --> 00:47:36,170
S5: Mm.

837
00:47:36,290 --> 00:47:39,770
S4: So you just can't get to the game. So I mean,

838
00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:42,450
S4: they finally they had a crowd of 13,000, which I

839
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:45,049
S4: thought was quite strong for a Highlanders game because they're

840
00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:50,370
S4: not a terrifically supported, um, New Zealand team. Uh, but

841
00:47:51,130 --> 00:47:52,890
S4: they're not doing themselves any favors.

842
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:54,130
S5: No, they're.

843
00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:59,530
S4: Not, you know, they're, they're in game experience was excellent. The, uh,

844
00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:02,810
S4: pre-match entertainment was good. They do a good job of

845
00:48:02,810 --> 00:48:05,810
S4: all of that. But a 635 kick off is just

846
00:48:05,810 --> 00:48:11,410
S4: too early. Uh, I will say this. The the I

847
00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:13,569
S4: had a bit of a look at the demographic of

848
00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:16,969
S4: people who were at the game, and there was a

849
00:48:16,969 --> 00:48:20,090
S4: huge amount of people who were under 30 and a

850
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:23,330
S4: lot of people who were 20 to 30. So whether

851
00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:25,810
S4: that's people who are getting on board, whether that's just

852
00:48:26,690 --> 00:48:28,810
S4: rugby supporters or people who are going out on a

853
00:48:28,810 --> 00:48:31,810
S4: Friday night, I don't know. But, um, there was a

854
00:48:31,810 --> 00:48:33,730
S4: lot of people in that 20 to 30 age group

855
00:48:33,730 --> 00:48:35,490
S4: who were at that game and had a good time,

856
00:48:35,969 --> 00:48:38,410
S4: so I reckon probably half the crowd.

857
00:48:39,010 --> 00:48:39,450
S5: Yeah.

858
00:48:39,489 --> 00:48:43,370
S4: So, um, which was cool to see. But that's my.

859
00:48:43,410 --> 00:48:45,930
S4: That's my little bleak. Everything else about it was was

860
00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:46,530
S4: pretty cool.

861
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:48,250
S5: Okay.

862
00:48:48,250 --> 00:48:49,969
S4: What do you reckon, Sally? What did you. What are

863
00:48:49,969 --> 00:48:50,730
S4: you annoyed about?

864
00:48:51,010 --> 00:48:53,129
S5: Oh, I'm going to take advantage of of butts being

865
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:55,330
S5: on the podcast and bring up a pet hate of

866
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:58,210
S5: ours is, um, banking in the line outs.

867
00:48:58,250 --> 00:49:00,450
S6: Bloody line out, you bastard! Yes.

868
00:49:00,850 --> 00:49:03,170
S5: Well, we can both talk about it, mate, but yeah,

869
00:49:03,450 --> 00:49:05,850
S5: you're not allowed to leave the line out before the

870
00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:09,330
S5: ball leaves the hooker's hand. No. And, like, twice last

871
00:49:09,330 --> 00:49:12,530
S5: weekend and the weekend before in internationals and Super Rugby,

872
00:49:12,969 --> 00:49:16,930
S5: the balls leaving the bloody, um, hooker's hand. And there's

873
00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:21,810
S5: three people playing halfback. It's just getting ridiculous.

874
00:49:22,330 --> 00:49:25,090
S6: So there was one incident in one of the games.

875
00:49:25,090 --> 00:49:28,250
S6: I forget where it was there. I think it was

876
00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:32,770
S6: the actual three players stood out of the line out.

877
00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:35,930
S6: There was a mix up on the call and they

878
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:40,800
S6: were standing there for like ten 15 seconds. And the balls.

879
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,080
S6: The hook is thinking, what the bloody hell's going on?

880
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,799
S6: It is. It's turning. It's turning the game into a

881
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,319
S6: lottery as far as I'm concerned.

882
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,600
S5: And I'm willing to let it go when they when

883
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,880
S5: they move around in top position, that's actually illegal before

884
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,680
S5: the ball is thrown. I'm willing to let that go.

885
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,040
S6: I thought the actual moving around to actually move to,

886
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,440
S6: to move into a position to catch the ball was legal.

887
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,400
S6: But what they were doing, where they just drop out

888
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,440
S6: two blokes back to make that second bank is totally illegal.

889
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,600
S6: Always has been. Yeah, and.

890
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,040
S5: All teams do it. I'm not sure buts about about

891
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,560
S5: the swapping positions because. Because we're old and I might

892
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,080
S5: have missed that change of law, but, uh, the banking

893
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,040
S5: is definitely illegal and it's not hard to spot.

894
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,440
S6: It's not. And all this. You know, they talk about, um,

895
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,479
S6: letting the game flow and things like that. But that

896
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,960
S6: is one incident where if you're playing in the team's

897
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960
S6: red zone, you get a penalty and you're five metres

898
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,120
S6: from their line. You have got a distinct advantage of

899
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,160
S6: scoring a try.

900
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,160
S5: Yep.

901
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,799
S6: And yeah, I can I can go along to we

902
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,759
S6: can we can talk about that. So we're blue in

903
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,759
S6: the face. Nothing will change.

904
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,480
S5: Well it doesn't mean nothing needs to change except applying

905
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,040
S5: the law as it already is. Yeah.

906
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,800
S6: Oh, yeah. And actually doing it so that they get

907
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,800
S6: the tie once or twice, they got the timing just

908
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,600
S6: about right where the ball left the the hooker's hands.

909
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,959
S6: And they were moving into that position. And that looked

910
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,320
S6: fine to me. But when it's so bloody obvious. Yeah. Anyway.

911
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,960
S5: Yeah yeah.

912
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,279
S4: Yeah. Be anxious for the. It'll be interesting to see

913
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,640
S4: whether Angus Gardner polices it at all this week, because

914
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,000
S4: the Brumbies have gotten away with a couple of fairly

915
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,480
S4: blatant ones in the last few weeks, uh, where, you know,

916
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,840
S4: even even, um, Morgan Turinui was pointing it out. So

917
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,919
S4: I wonder whether either they'll the Brumbies will be self

918
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,400
S4: correcting because they seem to be smart enough coaching, a

919
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,120
S4: smart enough coaching group that they would, or whether Angus

920
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,800
S4: Gardner will, uh, will uh, have a go at them. But, um,

921
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,120
S4: I don't know that, uh, the Brumbies will have the

922
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,080
S4: best repartee with Angus Gardner after last week. I think

923
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,520
S4: they were a bit bit annoyed with him. Yes. Uh,

924
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,839
S4: at various times, which is probably understandable. He certainly had

925
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,080
S4: the slide rule out on a couple of lineout throws,

926
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,840
S4: that's for sure.

927
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,000
S5: Yeah, I feel, I feel after looking at Halfback's feed

928
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,480
S5: of scrum, I feel really sorry for hookers throwing a

929
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:40,880
S5: line out. So, I mean, it's just it's just ridiculous. But, um. Yeah, yeah.

930
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,080
S4: Look, it's. Yeah. Hookers trying to line it. It's a

931
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,399
S4: repeatable skill. They shouldn't. They shouldn't be fucking it up

932
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,560
S4: or that when they do, they should be doing it

933
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,319
S4: only occasionally. So. But sometimes.

934
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,320
S5: Sometimes hookers can learn and halfbacks can't.

935
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,839
S4: Yeah. Well, clearly hook hookers. Hookers, hookers are in the,

936
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,760
S4: in the, in the scrum and halfbacks are in the backs.

937
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:09,000
S4: I shouldn't have to say more. Uh, worrying boys. Have

938
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,480
S4: we done? Yep, yep. All good. Uh, again.

939
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,960
S5: We can talk about how I feel about the hit

940
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,720
S5: in the scrum.

941
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,200
S4: Yeah, exactly. And, uh, next week we can say how

942
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,520
S4: how we apologize to the Reds because they got up

943
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,040
S4: and overcame our, uh, our doubt of them. I look

944
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,640
S4: forward to it. And, yes.

945
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,239
S6: Saying goodbye, saying goodbye to Steve Borthwick after England lose

946
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:32,800
S6: to Italy.

947
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,600
S4: Well that'll be that'll be a big thing. I'm, I'm,

948
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,880
S4: I'm tipping the Italians for that game and I actually

949
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,239
S4: believe the Italians can win it.

950
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,320
S6: So do I. Yeah, so do I. I reckon that

951
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,440
S6: on paper I reckon they're a better side.

952
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,160
S4: Are England at home or away.

953
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,040
S6: They're away.

954
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,360
S5: Oh yeah. That's that is. Look, it is a ballsy

955
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,000
S5: move to change 12 of your starting team when your

956
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,480
S5: job's basically on the line, isn't it, against the rampaging,

957
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,520
S5: rampaging Italy?

958
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,880
S6: Sorry, I don't think it is. I reckon they've picked.

959
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,120
S6: He was. He's been picked to take England to Rugby

960
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,040
S6: World Cup for a kick off. No other Premiership coach

961
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,440
S6: would take the job.

962
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,600
S4: Um.

963
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,360
S6: Even when it was, you know, and there's nothing available

964
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,439
S6: at the moment because they're all changed within the Rugby

965
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,320
S6: World Cups over.

966
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,880
S4: Yeah. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to say something

967
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:33,240
S4: that that'll probably trigger trigger a bit in that. Uh, England.

968
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560
S4: England have turned into the new Scotland. They can win

969
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,160
S4: in Twickenham, but they can't win down the street from Twickenham.

970
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,239
S6: Well, they can't even. They can't even win in bloody Twickenham.

971
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,000
S4: Yeah.

972
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,440
S5: So they're the Fiji of the Fijian drua of the

973
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,200
S5: Northern hemisphere.

974
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,520
S4: Oh yes.

975
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,160
S6: Yeah.

976
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,719
S4: Well if they lose to Italy it will be it

977
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,480
S4: will be panic stations because you know everyone trumpets. They

978
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,000
S4: had 12 in a row, which is cool. But all

979
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,120
S4: the other games have been at all. The hard games

980
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,600
S4: have been at home and, and a few of the

981
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,160
S4: away games were against, you know, Argentina. See frankly so

982
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,720
S4: you know.

983
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,359
S6: And some of the, some of the, some of the,

984
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,320
S6: some of the winning home games were decided decidedly lucky,

985
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,200
S6: like the Scottish game, for example, when they were three

986
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,200
S6: tries to one down and they managed to win by

987
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,920
S6: one point.

988
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,600
S4: Yeah.

989
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,040
S6: You know.

990
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,239
S4: So with the Toji hanging around, hanging around the kick

991
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:32,469
S4: and the, um, telling him to kick it. Yeah. That one. And, uh. Anyway. Yeah. And, uh,

992
00:55:32,469 --> 00:55:35,189
S4: Marcus Smith hit a drop at the after after the,

993
00:55:35,230 --> 00:55:38,470
S4: you know, the 82nd minute to beat the Irish. Um,

994
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:42,590
S4: but hey, you'd rather win win close one close ones

995
00:55:42,590 --> 00:55:48,070
S4: than those with style. Yeah, yeah. No. But, um, look, I,

996
00:55:48,070 --> 00:55:51,070
S4: I'm tipping the Italians this week. I reckon they're they're specials.

997
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:53,110
S6: I reckon they'll get up for this one.

998
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:57,030
S4: Yeah, I don't think I don't. My heart says Scotland

999
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:59,470
S4: will win, but my head says the French will get up.

1000
00:56:00,430 --> 00:56:03,350
S4: But yeah, I think it'll be close. Scottish will put

1001
00:56:03,350 --> 00:56:06,149
S4: on a good performance, but, uh, you know, it'll, uh.

1002
00:56:06,790 --> 00:56:11,029
S4: That French team looks something else. Um, looks something else,

1003
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:11,549
S4: doesn't it?

1004
00:56:12,110 --> 00:56:15,190
S6: And I think the Irish will, uh, take the Welsh

1005
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:16,030
S6: as well, so.

1006
00:56:16,550 --> 00:56:22,830
S4: Yeah. Yeah. Bloody, um. Something wrong that Bilbray has scored

1007
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:26,550
S4: 12 try 12 six nation tries in eight games.

1008
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:31,350
S6: Oh, he's. I hate to use I hate using the

1009
00:56:31,350 --> 00:56:34,150
S6: term world class, but he is world class.

1010
00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:35,710
S4: Yeah, yeah, 100%.

1011
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:38,870
S5: Is it interesting how things go around in roundabouts, like

1012
00:56:38,910 --> 00:56:41,950
S5: we've had years of these big, powerful wingers and now

1013
00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:45,830
S5: the best wingers in the world are these little, um, um,

1014
00:56:45,870 --> 00:56:50,670
S5: amazingly skilled guys. Yeah, yeah. Um, who just go round

1015
00:56:50,670 --> 00:56:52,750
S5: under through, uh, over.

1016
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:56,710
S4: And it's funny because. Yeah. And it's funny because in the,

1017
00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:59,350
S4: in the age of the contestable box kick, you'd think

1018
00:56:59,390 --> 00:57:02,350
S4: the taller winger would be the, you know, would be

1019
00:57:02,350 --> 00:57:05,430
S4: your plan, but it's, it tends to be the little guy. Yeah.

1020
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:07,510
S4: Seems to be you know, little guys are the best wingers,

1021
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:12,070
S4: you know. Um, yeah. It's it's, it's and that's why,

1022
00:57:12,430 --> 00:57:15,230
S4: that's why to get into the weeds. That's why I

1023
00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:17,430
S4: think they why do they mess up. Don't mess around

1024
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:20,030
S4: with the laws so much because it cycles in and

1025
00:57:20,030 --> 00:57:22,710
S4: out of things, you know, like it'll cycle towards really

1026
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:26,510
S4: big powerful players and then you know it moves back

1027
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:30,270
S4: into non powerful players you know or non power players

1028
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:33,870
S4: in fast players. And you know it'll it'll move too

1029
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:36,390
S4: fast into the in far into the fast player stuff.

1030
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:39,470
S4: And then you'll get the big guys come along again. Yeah.

1031
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:44,070
S5: So yeah the big fast skilful guy and he'll just

1032
00:57:44,110 --> 00:57:45,990
S5: stop everything. Yeah yeah.

1033
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:47,910
S4: And his name's Jonah Lomu.

1034
00:57:48,430 --> 00:57:48,750
S5: Yeah.

1035
00:57:49,630 --> 00:57:54,950
S4: Yeah. Uh, look, everyone, if you're still listening, congratulations. Thanks

1036
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:58,070
S4: for all your support. Download rate. Subscribe, review on all

1037
00:57:58,070 --> 00:58:00,150
S4: your platforms. Get down to your local club, buy a beer,

1038
00:58:00,190 --> 00:58:02,750
S4: become a member, do all the good things. And, uh,

1039
00:58:03,070 --> 00:58:05,470
S4: but thanks for stepping in. And, uh, hope your recovery

1040
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:06,390
S4: goes well, mate.

1041
00:58:06,430 --> 00:58:07,470
S6: Always a pleasure.

1042
00:58:07,950 --> 00:58:10,750
S4: Yeah, Sally, we'll see you next week.

1043
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:11,310
S5: See you.

1044
00:58:11,310 --> 00:58:12,030
S4: Later. For now.

1045
00:58:13,550 --> 00:58:15,229
S1: If you know anything about rugby Dan.

1046
00:58:15,830 --> 00:58:18,510
S2: Regan drop goal from Larkham.

1047
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:21,470
S3: Australian dream forward. They've got the advantage.

1048
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:23,430
S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.