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S1: I don't have any of that rugby.

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S2: Don't drop goal from Larkham.

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S3: Australian three or they've got the advantage.

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S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.

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S4: Hi everyone and welcome to the team's pod for the week.

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S4: I'm the happy man back from holidays. I'm here with Carl.

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S4: In spite of the canes losing and Sully tonight uh,

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S4: this week we'll take a look at the round. Round

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S4: the teams for the to the week evening. Sully, how

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S4: are you going?

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S5: I'm good mate. How are you?

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S4: Fantastic. Fantastic. Nice and calm. Week off. How good? Yeah. Carl,

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S4: how are you going, brother?

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S6: Yeah, I'm good mate. I'm still sulking a little bit

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S6: after that. That, um, disgusting game the the canes put

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S6: It's it's it's the way the game goes. And that's

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S4: Oh, mate. Mate, I was getting.

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S5: Excited. Not because of the canes. Because your canes lost,

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S5: but it was upset after upset after upset. And I

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S4: Look, I'm, uh, I was I was zero for three

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S6: Yeah, the the the only reason I got over 50%

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S4: Yeah. It happens.

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S6: Such is life. We. We crack on, and, um, it'll

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S6: be interesting to see how that how it flows as,

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S6: the draw at home in round one. And in round

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S4: You know. And the Blues are in a similar position

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S6: Yeah. Yeah. Whereas you know um and and this is

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S5: Now I'd prefer it if it was a proper home

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S6: And you know there's all the talk about not enough

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S6: just imagine if they did have to keep the game

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S6: I would be all in for that.

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S5: And squad development. Yeah, that's a developing squad. Players more.

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S4: Yeah. Yeah I'd be in for it as well. Uh,

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S4: I'd be I'd be all in for that as well.

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S6: So I'd actually I'd almost, I.

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S6: They kept going. Eh. But but I see where you're

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S6: But you know, the Waratahs would struggle because they'd lose

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S4: Well.

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S6: The.

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S4: Yeah. Well that's the thing. You know peak peak Crusaders

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S6: Did you did you see that thing in the weekend? Where, uh,

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S4: Yeah. There's no interest. No interest like self interest. Yeah. Well, no,

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S4: no interest like self interest. Um, yeah. Yeah. I've got

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S6: He, he does, he does some fantastic coaching things and

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S4: Would be interesting. Like a lot of his key players

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S6: Which Japanese would kick them into touch?

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S4: Which? Which would then be a case of, well, you've

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S6: I actually wonder whether the players would find reasons not

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S4: Well.

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S5: And it just didn't work. We saw the Crusaders are

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S5: It's a bad sign for depth for Queensland, but I

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S6: Sorry, I need to clarify it too mate. Um, to

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S5: Yeah. And funnily enough I thought Blythe, uh, was one

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S4: good play. And uh, and then, you know, the Reds

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S6: Yeah. No, I tend to agree with that. My the

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S4: I think it's a bad sign. But if they. Even

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S4: more composed, then you just go. It was a bad game. Yep. Um,

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S6: Yeah, that's actually an interesting one. Um, I, I am

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S6: more concerned about them thinking it's a bad sign. They, um.

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S6: But it's a bad sign. Going. Going along with what?

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S6: Beauden Barrett had stayed on, they probably would have won

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S6: that's how the Brumbies beat them. The Brumbies beat them

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S6: and in the malls, and they weren't able to counter that.

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S6: And when they weren't able to counter that, they didn't

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S4: Mm. Just just looking at.

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S5: I thought Vern Cotter was, was a pretty clever coach.

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S5: Is he, is he like a one star type guy or.

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S6: I don't know, mate. I don't know enough about the

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S6: guy because he's, you know, he's come from the northern hemisphere,

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S6: where he's done quite well by all accounts. But, um,

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S6: you know, one of the things that when people talk

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S6: about Verne and and to be fair, it's similar with

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S6: Kissin and Larkham to a certain extent is, um, if

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S6: they're such good coaches, where are their trophies?

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S5: Yeah.

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S4: To be fair, to be fair to, to be fair

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S4: to Verne, he's got he's got the Brenner, he's got

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S4: the top 14, which is a pretty hard one to win.

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S6: Yeah.

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S4: Um, and, and you know, I mean, as much as

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S4: I'm a and.

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S6: He got super.

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S4: Lucky.

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S6: Last year, so, you know.

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S4: Yeah. And as much as I'm a welded on, you know,

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S4: welded on Scottish supporter, he didn't have the cattle to

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S4: So um, yeah the blues are I think it's a

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S4: bit of a bad sign. Blues one also there. The

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S4: you've got to pay. Everyone's got to pay that bill. But, um,

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S4: this week they've got no Bud and Barrett. Everyone's going

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S4: to use that as their headline. And no Ricky Riccitelli.

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S4: He's been probably the form hooker of the comp. Um,

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S4: that Sam Derry who was instrumental to them last year.

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S4: He's out for the season and Hoskins Sotutu is suspended.

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S4: So that's probably their four key players from last year

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S6: And he's out.

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S4: Is he out. He's not showing on the list.

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S6: No he's out injured I think, um, he's still out injured. Um,

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S6: I don't think he's in the team. Yeah. Um.

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S4: And you're one of your favorite yuan brothers is, uh,

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S4: bit of that.

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S4: I knew I could get you with that. Um, so. Yeah,

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S4: that's that's where we're at. Like, it's just a, um,

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S4: I think I think there is a bit of strife.

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S6: Dalton Papalii is back. Sorry. My mistake.

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S4: Yeah, yeah. Uh, um, having said that, they're only it's

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S4: they've played four games for a win. They're only, you know,

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S4: in 10th. And you know, so it's the the closeness

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S6: Yeah. Well you know.

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S4: Keep everyone with the chant.

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S6: There's five there's five teams in third place on nine points. Correct.

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S6: So so it's not going to take much to change

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S4: Yeah.

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S5: Yeah I got the Blues with a maximum possible points

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S5: lowest possible maximum points in the out of all the teams.

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S5: As long as my calculations are right. Is that looking good.

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S6: Is that winning all the next games with a bonus point.

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S6: Is it.

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S5: Yep.

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S6: Wow. That's not going to win them the comp is it.

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S4: Yeah.

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S5: No. And actually Waratahs Waratahs a possible 68 because.

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S6: But they won't. They won't get maximum points, mate. They

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S6: haven't hit any hard teams yet, so that's not going

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S5: That's all teams equal mate.

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S4: Yeah that's all teams winning all their games.

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S5: Yeah with a bonus point. Yeah.

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S6: That means we come last. I don't like this chart.

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S6: I don't like this chart at all. Sully. You can

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S6: get rid of it. It's something I hate.

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S4: We'll barely mention it later in the season if it

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S6: Uh, exactly.

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S4: Okay. Game games for the week. Let's, uh, let's let's

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S4: scroll into those, shall we? Yeah. Uh, first game of

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S4: the week is the Highlanders v the Canes at Forsyth Barr. Uh,

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S4: Highlands got Highlanders have got, uh, DeGroot, Jack Taylor, Sally Martell, uh,

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S4: Fabian Holland, Mitch Dunshea, P.K. Howden, Sam Withey, Nikora Broughton,

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S4: uh Nathan Haskell, Tane Robinson, Josh Nareki. Uh Timoci. Taniela. Talia. Caleb.

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S4: I can't get that one. Tanglewood and Saint Gilbert. Um. Canes. Nehemiah. Jacob. Devery. Uh, Mahalia. Uh. Delaney. Gallagher. Shields. Du'plessis. Kirifi. Uh. Peter. Lachie. Cam. Roy. Guard. Harry. Godfrey,

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S4: the listener. Hello. Peter. Jensen. Baden. Sullivan. Uh punivai and

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S4: Reuben Lovett. Fullback. Carl.

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S6: Oh, canes going to tell me, obviously.

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S4: Yeah. It's like last.

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S4: It's in Wellington and it's in the it's the it's

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S4: the first game of the. It's 7:00 in uh, Wellington time.

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S6: I, I actually know it's in Dunedin, mate.

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S5: Um.

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S6: But yeah, I think, um, I actually think the hurricanes,

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S6: despite my one eyed view, actually are a better team.

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S6: And they certainly when you look at the names on

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S6: the on the field, they've got better names everywhere. Um,

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S6: I think the hurricanes are struggling at the moment because

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S6: they they don't understand the game plan. They don't understand

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S6: who's leading the team, they don't understand who's directing the team,

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S6: and they don't understand where they're going because they've got

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S6: four captains, which has got to be one of the

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S6: dumbest decisions that I've ever seen a coach make, ever.

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S6: And I think that to me, you know, four captains,

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S6: that just means I'm sharing the blame for the loss

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S6: through five people right from the start. And you've seen

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S6: where the referee has, you know, he's gone and he's

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S6: talked to he said, we've got you know, I want

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S6: a decision here. So he goes and talks to Du Plessis.

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S6: And Du Plessis says, no, I'm not making that decision

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S6: because that decision is from someone else. And he talks

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S6: to them and he says, no, no, no, that's someone

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S6: else's decision. And and a team needs direction to move forward.

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S6: And they need to have that one player who they

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S6: look to and who they are going to drive them.

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S6: And I think their their problem at the moment is

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S6: that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Um,

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S6: they've still got the players, you know, they've got, you know, they,

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S6: they basically had an all black prop who can't come

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S6: I think, I think the hurricanes have got the players

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S6: hell they're doing. And I'm going to pick them because

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S6: I'll always go with my heart for the hurricanes. But

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S6: I'm very wary about how this will go.

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S4: Sally.

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S5: Well, I think watching the game last week, I think

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S5: the hurricanes went better. Uh, when Roy guard came on.

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S5: And I'm glad he's starting this week. Um, but having

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S5: said that, the hurricanes have been going great. It's a

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S5: hard one for me to pick without, um, a dog

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S5: in the fight.

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S6: Um, it makes it easier to make because you don't

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S5: Well, because I think it's going to be close. I

431
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S5: just think it's going to it's going to be a

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S5: they've got good form. They're playing like a team where

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S5: the hurricanes have been a bit disjointed, I think, and

435
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436
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S5: rate great. I just love watching him play. Um, yeah

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S5: I'm just not sure. Uh, and and having, uh, amua and, uh, splinters.

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S4: Splinters in.

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S6: The.

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S4: Buttocks. Yeah.

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S5: I mean, and Lomax back on the bench. Yeah, it

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S5: Maybe referees, but I'm not saying he's a bad ref.

445
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,639
S5: It just doesn't. It doesn't, uh, I don't enjoy the

446
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,570
S5: way he referees, but that's just a personal preference. Um,

447
00:22:33,109 --> 00:22:35,240
S5: I might I'm going to go with the Highlanders, I reckon.

448
00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:37,100
S5: There you go. I'm off the fence.

449
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,140
S6: Well done actually. Um, maybe. Maybe is pretty new. And

450
00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:44,900
S6: I think he's learning, you know, that that jump up,

451
00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:47,750
S6: that jump up's quite big. You know, the the jump

452
00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:49,669
S6: up from the players is big. To jump up for

453
00:22:49,670 --> 00:22:53,810
S6: the referees is just as big. Um, but, uh, I.

454
00:22:53,810 --> 00:22:56,960
S4: Read somewhere this is this is only his second, second

455
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,889
S4: start or something.

456
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,530
S6: Yeah. Second start in Super Rugby. He's been doing well

457
00:23:00,530 --> 00:23:03,530
S6: in NPC and he got given the job because he's

458
00:23:03,530 --> 00:23:06,560
S6: a good referee. Um, I think maybe his first one.

459
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,960
S6: He was a bit overawed because because, you know, you

460
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,000
S6: would be you know, you come up there and all

461
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,890
S6: of a sudden it's your first game and you got

462
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:15,379
S6: the world looking at you and you're, you know, second

463
00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:18,800
S6: guess decisions and things like that. So yeah. Anyway, who

464
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,369
S6: do you reckon.

465
00:23:19,390 --> 00:23:21,550
S4: There, Bill? Any player who takes the steps is the

466
00:23:21,550 --> 00:23:23,890
S4: first thing they notice. How much faster it is? Yeah.

467
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,710
S4: If you're the if you're the referee making 100, you know,

468
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:29,860
S4: 100 decisions a minute. I can only imagine. It's like,

469
00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:32,230
S4: you know, by the end of it you're mentally you'd

470
00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:33,070
S4: be wrecked.

471
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:33,609
S6: Yeah.

472
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,520
S4: You'd be wrecked. And as much as trying to keep

473
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,430
S4: up with it, uh, I will take the landers. I just,

474
00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:42,370
S4: I like I like the style of what they're playing.

475
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,310
S4: I think they're a, um, they're just a well coached side,

476
00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:47,679
S4: and I think they'll they'll get better as the season

477
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:53,410
S4: goes along. Um, and, uh, at the moment. Oh.

478
00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:55,120
S5: Well, I, I just.

479
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,649
S4: I just think.

480
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,980
S5: With my picking, but, uh, but Bill's much better at

481
00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:02,109
S5: picking than I am. So no, I'm not.

482
00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:05,830
S4: No I'm not. But having said that, look, look, let's

483
00:24:05,859 --> 00:24:08,590
S4: let's being real. There are two, two New Zealand teams

484
00:24:08,590 --> 00:24:11,560
S4: who haven't had their bye yet. Uh, and they're sitting

485
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,970
S4: third and fourth respectively. Um, canes have canes. Canes have

486
00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:19,650
S4: played for, uh. sorry. The Highlanders have had their bye.

487
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,550
S4: The canes haven't yet. They've played four. Um. And therefore.

488
00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:27,660
S4: And one. Highlanders are three and three games. Two wins. Uh,

489
00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:31,470
S4: tight loss to the tight loss to the Waratahs. Um,

490
00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:36,270
S4: you know, I, I'm thinking it's, you know, there's an

491
00:24:36,270 --> 00:24:38,310
S4: NFL coach who says you are what your record says

492
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,830
S4: you are. And at the moment, their record says they're

493
00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:44,370
S4: a pretty good team. They don't. The Highlanders don't have

494
00:24:44,369 --> 00:24:47,250
S4: a lot, but that's about as good as their team gets.

495
00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:50,160
S4: But Hurley, who played well the other day, he's out.

496
00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:53,219
S4: Tarver's out. That's a tough one, I guess. Yeah.

497
00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:54,210
S6: Um, he's.

498
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:54,240
S4: A.

499
00:24:54,450 --> 00:24:54,930
S6: Player.

500
00:24:54,930 --> 00:24:57,990
S4: And that Kneepkens is out for another four weeks, so

501
00:24:58,020 --> 00:25:00,480
S4: they they're carrying a couple of losses, but, uh, the

502
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,010
S4: canes losses. Devin Flanders, I rate him. He's a good player. Um,

503
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,770
S4: they missed Cameron. Yeah. Britt. He's a good player. Billy proctor. Um,

504
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:13,920
S4: they've got some. They've got some decent cattle out. So

505
00:25:13,950 --> 00:25:16,750
S4: I'm taking the the landers is just on the basis

506
00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:20,200
S4: that I think their coaching is superior, and I think

507
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:22,510
S4: I've become a real fan of coaching matters.

508
00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:26,110
S6: Yeah. No, that's that's a that's a valid point too. Yeah.

509
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:31,660
S4: Yeah. Next one along. Uh, this will be a really,

510
00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:36,250
S4: really cool game. Uh, Brumbies versus the Drua uh, in

511
00:25:36,250 --> 00:25:43,750
S4: Canberra on Friday 735. Brumbies have got slipper, Pollard, Tyler Frost,

512
00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:47,830
S4: Lachlan Shaw who I haven't heard of, uh, Tom Hooper,

513
00:25:47,859 --> 00:25:52,510
S4: Rory Scott, Charlie Kyle, Ryan Lonergan, Noel Sears back there

514
00:25:52,510 --> 00:25:58,450
S4: to begin for them, Corey Toole, uh, David Folau, Folau, um,

515
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,530
S4: Lenny Dow Andy Muirhead who I really rate Tom. Tom

516
00:26:02,530 --> 00:26:06,580
S4: Wright uh, is there that Declan Meredith is on the bench,

517
00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:09,640
S4: which is good to see. The Drua have got a

518
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280
S4: whole stack of very good players, and I'm not going

519
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,920
S4: to give it too much of a crack apart from

520
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,430
S4: to say that they look pretty strong. The they're bringing

521
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:20,740
S4: that in kind of area off the bench. He's always

522
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:24,430
S4: good for a penalty or two as is Frank Lomani. Uh,

523
00:26:24,430 --> 00:26:26,440
S4: Kuruvilla is coming off the bench. So they're looking to

524
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:31,150
S4: finish strong referees. Jordan way. Uh, Sally, what do you think,

525
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:33,399
S4: puppy killers or the draw?

526
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,139
S5: I'm gonna go with the Brumbies. Uh, Lachlan Shaw played

527
00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:42,940
S5: last week. Man, he went pretty well. I thought, um, yeah.

528
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:48,910
S5: With with, uh, Lolesio and, um, back and Tom Hooper

529
00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:53,469
S5: had a, had a Tom Hooper had a whale of

530
00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:57,459
S5: a game last week. So um. Yeah I'm going to,

531
00:26:57,490 --> 00:27:00,610
S5: I'm going to stick with the, uh, with the Brumbies.

532
00:27:00,609 --> 00:27:03,520
S5: I think they're on a roll. They found their mojo

533
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,210
S5: and know how they want to play. And I think, yeah,

534
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,629
S5: I'm gonna stick with them. Carl. Your thoughts?

535
00:27:11,890 --> 00:27:16,669
S6: Um, I think, um, I think you're only just lost

536
00:27:16,670 --> 00:27:21,350
S6: to the Chiefs, didn't they? By four points, although they

537
00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:22,040
S6: were at home.

538
00:27:22,490 --> 00:27:24,919
S5: The jury have just lost just about everyone, I think.

539
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:30,440
S6: Yeah. Um, and and I think, I think the draw

540
00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:33,890
S6: with respect to what Nutter said next week, they're on

541
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:39,080
S6: the cusp of taking that next step. Um, and maybe

542
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,030
S6: this game will be the one that does it, because

543
00:27:41,030 --> 00:27:43,850
S6: I think that the draw play a style of game

544
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:47,450
S6: that the Brumbies can get sucked into and then struggle

545
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,380
S6: to play. And if they do that, then I think, um,

546
00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:55,580
S6: they might do alright. And and to be honest, just

547
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:58,400
S6: because both of you picked the Highlanders over my canes,

548
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,740
S6: I'm going to pick the draw over the Brumbies. I'm

549
00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:02,540
S6: going to pick the draw to win this one. I

550
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:06,320
S6: think that I think they if they can, if they

551
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,130
S6: can hold the discipline, they can win this game. And

552
00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:13,260
S6: I think with the current coach they've got who understands

553
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:16,830
S6: the discipline issues and has been working on that with them. Um, plus,

554
00:28:16,830 --> 00:28:18,750
S6: of course they won't be traveling to the game in

555
00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:21,570
S6: the back of a, uh, of, of a truck because

556
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:24,150
S6: a bus might turn up. So now I'm, I'm going

557
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,010
S6: to pick the jury here. I think the jury are

558
00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:28,800
S6: due for an away win, and I think they're going

559
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:30,240
S6: to be pushing for this one.

560
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:35,940
S4: Yeah, I'm going to take the Broncos. Uh, again, purely

561
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:39,000
S4: on the face of the draw, having played, they proved

562
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
S4: they can play down the street from Churchill Park, but

563
00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:44,850
S4: until they can prove they can travel, I'm not going

564
00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:49,560
S4: to pick them. Uh, they're, they, you know, even even when.

565
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:54,510
S4: So Churchill Park in Lautoka, even when they went to Suva, uh,

566
00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:57,360
S4: when they played the Brumbies in the first round, they

567
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,810
S4: didn't beat them there. So they've got a fortress and

568
00:29:00,810 --> 00:29:03,270
S4: then everywhere else they, they lose. And until they prove

569
00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:06,030
S4: that that isn't the case, uh, I don't think they

570
00:29:06,030 --> 00:29:09,720
S4: can be trusted away from home. Simple as that. So

571
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,980
S4: I'll take the Brumbies.

572
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:13,380
S6: I also bit of a chicken and an egg thing

573
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:15,600
S6: on that one though, isn't it mate? Until they do it,

574
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,950
S6: they can't do it. Yeah.

575
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:18,690
S4: Well you know again it's.

576
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,410
S6: Yeah. No fear.

577
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,810
S4: You know, as I said, I'm a Scotland supporter. You

578
00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:23,880
S4: know we can win. We can beat anyone. We can

579
00:29:23,910 --> 00:29:26,100
S4: beat anyone at Murrayfield. We can't play down the street

580
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:29,310
S4: from Murrayfield. So it's the draw of the same team

581
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:32,010
S4: at the moment. They just can't. Can't do it away.

582
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:35,550
S4: No they can't they. Absolutely. To be fair they were truly,

583
00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:40,170
S4: truly unlucky against the, the canes and should have beaten them. Yeah.

584
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,370
S4: But um, you know again it's, you know they didn't

585
00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,430
S4: close out a game away from home. So um, you

586
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:50,400
S4: know give me the Brumbies. I think they'll, they'll probably

587
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,920
S4: I think that Brumbies are just on the cusp of

588
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,210
S4: playing some very good rugby. Um, yeah, I think they're

589
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,930
S4: they're just about to break out into some good stuff. Um,

590
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200
S4: you know, they've got, you know, they've got they've got

591
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,360
S4: some good players. Brumbies have got some good players who

592
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
S4: aren't in, you aren't injured and aren't in the 23

593
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:15,700
S4: this week. So yeah, give me the Bronx. Uh, next

594
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:20,560
S4: game along is the Saders v the force at um

595
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,620
S4: in Christchurch. The Crusaders have got Tamati Williams, Codie Taylor,

596
00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:33,940
S4: Fletcher Newell, Scott Barrett, uh, Antonio Sultan, Corey Kellow, Tom Christie,

597
00:30:34,090 --> 00:30:40,660
S4: Christian lowe, Willi Karl Preston is back. Uh, Kamara tan Springer,

598
00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:46,720
S4: David Havili, Braydon Ennor Jordan uh force. They got Marley pill,

599
00:30:46,780 --> 00:30:51,850
S4: Marley Pearce, Brandon Paenga-amosa, Tom Jordan, Jeremy Williams, Darcy Swain,

600
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:56,620
S4: Will Harris, Kane Koteka, Rhys Prinsep, Issak Fines-leleiwasa starts at

601
00:30:56,620 --> 00:31:04,330
S4: nine instead of, um, Nick, uh, helping out the halfback.

602
00:31:04,330 --> 00:31:04,690
S6: White.

603
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:06,080
S4: Nick white, who didn't make it.

604
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,310
S6: Not even in the team.

605
00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:10,100
S4: Not even in the team didn't make the trip. Max Fury,

606
00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:14,060
S4: George Pullman, region Pasitoa. Let's hope he goes well, said Tomkinson.

607
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:21,860
S4: Harry Potter and Matt Greeley, uh, referees competent being Damon Murphy. Um,

608
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:26,540
S4: what do you think, Carl? I think Crusaders by 15.

609
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:31,520
S6: 15 Crusaders. I think they smash the force. The the, um.

610
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:40,820
S6: I'm glad that the force are giving. Um. Isaac finds Lily. Lily? Lily. Sorry.

611
00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:45,020
S6: A game. I think that, um, he needs more game

612
00:31:45,050 --> 00:31:48,260
S6: time to develop because Nick white is going to move on.

613
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:50,810
S6: He's getting older, and one of the problems we have

614
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,900
S6: is when you, you know, you play your old guy

615
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,760
S6: until they go. And the young guy then has to

616
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,700
S6: step up with no experience or limited experience. So I'm

617
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,670
S6: so I'm pretty happy and and I see the reasoning

618
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:05,540
S6: behind cron giving these guys rest. And I think that's

619
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:09,080
S6: that will be good for them and it'll be good

620
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,350
S6: for the team. But later on in the season or

621
00:32:12,350 --> 00:32:14,690
S6: next year, not in this game. And I think the

622
00:32:14,690 --> 00:32:18,260
S6: Crusaders have got a very strong team there at home,

623
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:21,740
S6: and I think that they will win by ten, 15

624
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:22,700
S6: points easily.

625
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,030
S4: So I think this is the easiest one to pick.

626
00:32:26,810 --> 00:32:28,970
S5: I think that's the same. Crusaders are going to win

627
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:39,830
S5: this without without Donaldson, without Tizzano. Um without uh, champion Krasny. Um, no.

628
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:45,470
S5: Hamish Stewart. I mean, one of like. I mean, um,

629
00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:49,700
S5: what's the young fella playing 12 this week? Uh, full

630
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:50,480
S5: of force?

631
00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:53,060
S4: Um, uh, is.

632
00:32:53,090 --> 00:32:53,990
S5: Pasitoa.

633
00:32:54,050 --> 00:32:57,110
S4: George Pullman playing 13? Yeah, yeah.

634
00:32:58,100 --> 00:32:58,520
S6: Yeah.

635
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,100
S5: Did a pretty good fist. Fist at 13 last week,

636
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,720
S5: but he's in it. at um 12. This week?

637
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
S6: Um, no, he's in 13. Oh, sorry.

638
00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:08,760
S4: No. You're correct. He's. Yeah.

639
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:11,400
S6: Yeah, yeah. Pesto's 13.

640
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:11,910
S4: Yeah.

641
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:13,050
S5: No. He's 12.

642
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
S6: No, he's playing 13. He's been put into 13 this week.

643
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:21,960
S4: No he's okay. The 15 is three. Yeah. No. Sally's correct.

644
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:23,580
S4: Get used to it. He's always correct.

645
00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:27,780
S6: Yes. I'll shut up. Sorry. I'm wrong. My mistake. That is.

646
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,940
S6: That is his preferred position.

647
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,850
S5: I thought he was a fly off. But anyway.

648
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,670
S4: Originally, originally it was a fly half. He had a really?

649
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:39,000
S4: He's had a horrible run with injuries. He's. He apparently

650
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,380
S4: had a horrendous, um, broken leg in club footy in Perth, uh,

651
00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:46,800
S4: and has then backed it up with a knee. So

652
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:49,050
S4: apparently he's been hitting the tin pretty hard. So he's

653
00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:50,460
S4: a good solid 12 now.

654
00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:56,910
S5: Anyway, um, I still don't think he's as good as Stuart, so, um.

655
00:33:57,090 --> 00:33:57,450
S6: Yeah.

656
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,400
S5: So he's a step down from Stuart. So I just

657
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,400
S5: think there's too many hurdles that they've put in their

658
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,240
S5: own way, except for champion de Crespigny, who is injured. But, um,

659
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:09,250
S5: I think it's going to be too much of a

660
00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:11,920
S5: hurdle for him to overcome. Same as the Reds last week.

661
00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:18,549
S4: So good start, styles. Make fights. Crusaders will go into

662
00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:21,100
S4: you know they've got a very big big solid forward pack.

663
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:24,940
S4: And the the force have really struggled up front this year.

664
00:34:24,969 --> 00:34:27,610
S4: Although I see that Molly's back. So they'll have a

665
00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:30,160
S4: little bit more coming off the bench than they've had

666
00:34:30,340 --> 00:34:32,830
S4: in the past few weeks. So but yeah.

667
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:36,040
S6: I see peaches interest is injured as well. So they've

668
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,170
S6: got um champion de Crespigny and Peach both injured. And

669
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:43,990
S6: both of them have been really good players for them.

670
00:34:43,989 --> 00:34:45,489
S4: So yeah. Um.

671
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:48,730
S6: Look, I think it's one of those games, you know,

672
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,450
S6: you get the young guys in, um, maybe, maybe thought

673
00:34:52,450 --> 00:34:54,969
S6: it was a hard game to win. Anyway. So let's

674
00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:57,460
S6: use this one to give development players some time and

675
00:34:57,460 --> 00:35:00,920
S6: game time and get the experience. And to be honest,

676
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,010
S6: I don't have a problem with that. I think that, um,

677
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,110
S6: you know, if you think you're not going to win

678
00:35:06,110 --> 00:35:08,509
S6: a game anyway, then yeah, let you let your young

679
00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:11,180
S6: guys have a go, let them get the experience. And,

680
00:35:11,180 --> 00:35:14,270
S6: and then you can, you can use that experience later. And,

681
00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:16,490
S6: and it depends on how you use it and what

682
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:19,609
S6: you do with that experience going forward will be the

683
00:35:19,610 --> 00:35:22,460
S6: real test. And and Kron I think is smart enough

684
00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:24,140
S6: to be able to manage that and do it. So

685
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:27,920
S6: I think it's it's probably not the worst decision he's made,

686
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,350
S6: but I think it's not going to help them this week.

687
00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:31,520
S4: Not exactly.

688
00:35:31,550 --> 00:35:33,739
S5: I think what he's I'm pretty sure what he's done

689
00:35:33,739 --> 00:35:38,090
S5: is rested all his wallaby. Um yeah. Players on the

690
00:35:38,090 --> 00:35:39,050
S5: same weekend.

691
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,469
S4: Yeah.

692
00:35:39,469 --> 00:35:39,680
S5: Yeah.

693
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,230
S6: So so he can have them later on like next

694
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:46,040
S6: week when they play um who they play next week.

695
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,000
S6: I can't remember because it's uh Brumbies. Brumbies have got

696
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,959
S6: the Tigers next week.

697
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:53,660
S4: It'll also it'll also be at home next week as well.

698
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,550
S4: So it's again next week. Yeah.

699
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:55,940
S6: They got the.

700
00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:56,719
S4: Juror. No.

701
00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:59,450
S6: Yeah. Yeah. They got the draw at home, so. Yeah.

702
00:35:59,630 --> 00:36:02,450
S4: Yeah. The other thing is, if you look at the force,

703
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,359
S4: they don't have a huge injury list. But you would

704
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,230
S4: reasonably expect of that injured list. Um, every every one

705
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:10,880
S4: of them, bar one would be a player who you'd

706
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,500
S4: think is starting the season. Harry Johnson-holmes Bayley, Kuenzle, Harry Herbert,

707
00:36:15,530 --> 00:36:18,560
S4: Dylan Peach, Matt Proctor, you know, and they've only got

708
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:20,960
S4: one other guy who I've never heard of who's on

709
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,299
S4: their injured list. So each one of you know. So

710
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:25,670
S4: they've lost, they've got 4 or 5 guys who they

711
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:29,120
S4: haven't selected and then 5 or 6 who would probably

712
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,880
S4: be in their starting team anyway. So it's a it's

713
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,710
S4: going to be a thin game. And for them and

714
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:38,239
S4: I think uh I think fifteens being hopeful. Uh it

715
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,530
S4: could it could get ugly. It could get ugly. Um

716
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,320
S4: because you know you look at the, the, the bench

717
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,710
S4: for the, the side is, you know, uh, haven't heard

718
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:54,140
S4: of one, uh, hooker George Bower said that Dominic Blackadder,

719
00:36:54,140 --> 00:37:02,399
S4: Mitch Drummond, James O'Connor, Levi Muir. It's a pretty solid bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

720
00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:07,320
S4: Next one along, gents. Now, probably my second pick for

721
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,630
S4: game of the week, but, uh, some might hold a

722
00:37:09,630 --> 00:37:14,160
S4: different view. Certainly across the Dutch is, uh, the Chiefs

723
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,890
S4: v the Blues at uh, Waikato Stadium in Hamilton. The

724
00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:25,350
S4: Chiefs have got, uh, Ollie Norris, Brady McAllister, George Dyer. Uh, ah.

725
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:31,710
S4: Koy Tupou, VI, Sam Parker, Jahrome Brown, Luke Jacobson, Xavier Rhodes,

726
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:36,960
S4: Damian McKenzie's back there. Okada, Quinn Tupaea, Anton Lienert-Brown and

727
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,759
S4: only Eroni Narawa Sean Stevenson as the starters. The Blues

728
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,430
S4: have got Jordan Lake, Kurt Eklund, uh Tonga Fassi, Patrick Tuipulotu,

729
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:53,100
S4: uh Maguire, Mcwhannell. I don't know who that is. Uh, cam.

730
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:57,600
S4: Came Kristi Jordan Papalii and John Cena. Sam Neill, Harry Plummer,

731
00:37:57,630 --> 00:38:04,469
S4: Caleb Clarke. Uh, Zac Taylor, Ricky Martin and Corey Evans.

732
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,819
S4: Buck is the, uh, is the ref. Sully, are you

733
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:14,730
S4: going for the blue? The blue visor or.

734
00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:18,029
S5: No, mate. I'm going with the Chiefs. Um, Chiefs. I

735
00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:20,009
S5: just think the Blues are too out of form. But

736
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,430
S5: they could click back in any time, I guess. But

737
00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:26,940
S5: but no, I, I'm sticking with, uh, the team that's

738
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:31,380
S5: in form and, um, and playing my cards close to

739
00:38:31,380 --> 00:38:34,800
S5: my chest, but no, um, Chiefs for me by 10

740
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,919
S5: to 15, I'm guessing. But it'll be a tough game. And, um. Yeah.

741
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:44,580
S5: Dalton Perry is back, isn't he? He's been injured. Yeah,

742
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:49,860
S5: he could make a difference. Um. No. Chiefs. I'm sticking.

743
00:38:49,890 --> 00:38:52,089
S5: Sticking to my guns. Carl.

744
00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:53,259
S6: I think.

745
00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:55,150
S5: What do you think of Ben O'Keeffe at the moment?

746
00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:56,140
S5: He's gone.

747
00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:56,440
S4: I think.

748
00:38:56,469 --> 00:38:56,799
S5: I.

749
00:38:57,310 --> 00:38:59,830
S4: I think he's out of form. I think he's a

750
00:38:59,830 --> 00:39:01,390
S4: good ref, but I think he's out of form.

751
00:39:02,110 --> 00:39:06,670
S6: Yeah, I I. I think he's. I think he's being

752
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:10,120
S6: asked to referee a games a little bit differently and

753
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,720
S6: apply the laws different to what he would normally do.

754
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,150
S6: And I think he's struggling to get his head around

755
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:20,860
S6: where Super Rugby want him to apply the laws this year. Um,

756
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:24,040
S6: because the Super Rugby is doing a lot of things that,

757
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,989
S6: that they never did. Like, like if you if you

758
00:39:25,989 --> 00:39:29,770
S6: looked at most of the games last week, um, every

759
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,160
S6: game had players off their feet and from the side. Um,

760
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:36,069
S6: and if the, if the ball was already won, no

761
00:39:36,070 --> 00:39:39,940
S6: one cared. And I think Bok wants to actually stop that,

762
00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:42,280
S6: but is being asked not to, which means he's second

763
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,100
S6: guessing himself at times. Um, but no, he's still a

764
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,570
S6: good ref. I don't have a problem with him. I

765
00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:48,730
S6: don't think he's. He's not going to be the decider

766
00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:52,460
S6: between these games. Um, I think the Chiefs will win

767
00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:55,910
S6: for two reasons. I think they've got they've got a

768
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:58,310
S6: team which is a lot more settled than the Blues.

769
00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:01,070
S6: They've got players who know their game plan, they know

770
00:40:01,070 --> 00:40:02,810
S6: what they want to do and they know where people

771
00:40:02,810 --> 00:40:05,930
S6: are going to be. And even with Damian McKenzie running

772
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:09,500
S6: around and knowing no one, knowing what he wants, where

773
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:13,820
S6: he's going to be, including himself, I think that Quinn

774
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:18,350
S6: Tupaea and Anton Lienert-Brown actually can cover that really well.

775
00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:20,750
S6: And the other reason I think the Chiefs will win

776
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:23,330
S6: is that I think their bench is a lot stronger.

777
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,830
S6: You know Finau, takahe, um, Josh Jacob, who to me

778
00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:31,009
S6: is one of the form number ten in New Zealand

779
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:34,370
S6: at the moment. And I think between him and um

780
00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:38,029
S6: and the hurricane guy uh McGregor is I know it's

781
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:42,260
S6: wrong name. Um, what's the hurricane Godfrey. I think him

782
00:40:42,260 --> 00:40:44,840
S6: and Godfrey are the two form teams in New Zealand

783
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,960
S6: at the moment, and he's going to come on. So

784
00:40:47,989 --> 00:40:51,020
S6: I think the chief will take this. And and in fact,

785
00:40:51,020 --> 00:40:52,970
S6: I actually think the Chiefs are probably going to win

786
00:40:52,969 --> 00:40:55,790
S6: this by about 10 or 10, 15 points. In fact,

787
00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:59,810
S6: I'll say seven plus. Absolutely. Um, I've got, I've.

788
00:40:59,810 --> 00:41:02,630
S5: Got I've got to admit, I was surprised to see

789
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,450
S5: Jacob on the bench and McKenzie at ten.

790
00:41:06,020 --> 00:41:09,860
S6: I think that's because McKenzie Stevenson. Yeah, they wanted to

791
00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:12,710
S6: bring Stevenson back in, and I think that's a mistake.

792
00:41:12,739 --> 00:41:16,370
S6: I think, you know, Damian McKenzie is a really, really

793
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:20,989
S6: good 15 who can play ten, but he's not actually

794
00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:24,620
S6: that good as a ten. Um I think it's super

795
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:28,790
S6: Super Rugby level. He's probably okay and good enough that

796
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:32,359
S6: he can play ten and and and not be too

797
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,880
S6: much of an issue. Um, but I think yeah, I

798
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,180
S6: think you'll see. Jacob. Come on. And McKenzie move to 15,

799
00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,910
S6: which to me is a much better set up for

800
00:41:40,910 --> 00:41:44,330
S6: both of them. Um, but yeah, it'll be interesting to

801
00:41:44,330 --> 00:41:46,650
S6: see how it goes, but I, I can't see the

802
00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:48,420
S6: Chiefs losing this, I really can't.

803
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,040
S4: Yeah. I just think, um, you look at the quality

804
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,420
S4: that the blues have out. Um, you know that's the

805
00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:04,230
S4: real issue. Beauden Barrett, Steely Dan Sullivan, Hoskins Sotutu. Um,

806
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,440
S4: that's some pretty Sam Darry. Like they're never going to

807
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,140
S4: see him again this year, but that's some cool. They're

808
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:14,310
S4: all starters in that team. Yeah, absolutely. So the the

809
00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:19,799
S4: the quality the quality drop for them is is is substantial. Um,

810
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:23,370
S4: you know, Harry Plummer's a fine player, but he's not, uh,

811
00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:27,690
S4: he's not Boden Barrett. Yeah. So, you know, I just

812
00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:32,010
S4: don't see I just don't see a and the blues

813
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:33,779
S4: are at home. You know, I think.

814
00:42:33,810 --> 00:42:37,110
S6: I think, um, I think if, um, Beauden Barrett had

815
00:42:37,110 --> 00:42:39,150
S6: stayed on last week, the Blues would have won.

816
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:41,610
S4: Yeah. I didn't see the game, so I couldn't comment.

817
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,520
S6: Yeah. No, I think absolutely they would have won because

818
00:42:44,530 --> 00:42:48,490
S6: he was the one that gave them their points in

819
00:42:48,489 --> 00:42:51,190
S6: the first half with his play. I thought he had

820
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:53,680
S6: one of the best games at, um, ten that I've

821
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,570
S6: seen him play for a long time in that game.

822
00:42:55,570 --> 00:42:59,290
S6: And I think, um, he's starting to he's starting to

823
00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:01,870
S6: show again. Again. He's a ten who can play 15.

824
00:43:01,870 --> 00:43:04,600
S6: He's not a 15 who can play ten. And, um,

825
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:07,839
S6: that's the real difference, I think, between him and McKenzie. But, um,

826
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:12,759
S6: I thought he played very, very well. So. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately.

827
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,170
S6: And and what I found surprising last week, actually, was

828
00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:20,770
S6: both Clarke and Talia, um, got the ball on the

829
00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:23,680
S6: wing and had to cut back in because they couldn't

830
00:43:23,710 --> 00:43:27,220
S6: outpace the defence, which is a real, you know, you're

831
00:43:27,219 --> 00:43:30,910
S6: a winger. You're not meant to do that. Um, you know,

832
00:43:30,940 --> 00:43:33,549
S6: you're meant to be able to outpace and position yourself

833
00:43:33,550 --> 00:43:36,910
S6: so you can outpace and, you know, maybe maybe they're

834
00:43:36,910 --> 00:43:39,370
S6: not getting position, maybe they're not getting the ball correct

835
00:43:39,370 --> 00:43:41,500
S6: so that they're not getting in that position or something.

836
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,469
S6: But that that to me was quite disappointing in their

837
00:43:44,469 --> 00:43:47,980
S6: game last week. Um, yeah. We'll see what happens.

838
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:50,529
S4: Yep. Yeah. Game of.

839
00:43:50,530 --> 00:43:51,370
S6: The week.

840
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,850
S4: After all of those entrees and a pair of teas.

841
00:43:55,330 --> 00:43:58,180
S4: We're we're into them. We're into the main. The meat,

842
00:43:58,180 --> 00:44:01,629
S4: the real. We're into the tomahawk steak. The main. The

843
00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:05,709
S4: main game. The real game. Uh, Reds v the Tigers

844
00:44:05,739 --> 00:44:12,549
S4: at Lang Park on 730 on Saturday. Couple of us

845
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:14,410
S4: are going to be there, so be nice to meet

846
00:44:14,410 --> 00:44:18,520
S4: each other in person. Catch up, have a few beers. Mhm. Uh,

847
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:24,700
S4: Reds uh team is Fergus Faisla, Josh Canham Ryan Smith

848
00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:29,109
S4: Sarah is back from injury. Fraser McRae. Harry Wilson. Uh,

849
00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:32,710
S4: Tate McDermott. Tom liner. Tim Ryan. Hunter Paisami is back

850
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:39,190
S4: from suspension. Filipo Daugunu, Lockie Anderson and Jeremiah Murray. Uh,

851
00:44:39,219 --> 00:44:44,480
S4: the Tars, Stars Angus Bell, di Parigi, Taniela Tupou, Hugh Sinclair,

852
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,120
S4: Ben Grant, Rob Leota, Charlie Gamble, Lafayette Taylor, Tina Uh,

853
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,760
S4: Teddy Wilson, Lawson Crichton, Max Jorgensen, Joey Walton, Henry O'Donnell,

854
00:44:55,790 --> 00:45:01,549
S4: Tristan Riley, Andrew Kellaway and unfortunately, I'm going to be

855
00:45:01,550 --> 00:45:05,750
S4: shouting at the worst referee in Super Rugby, James Doleman. Uh.

856
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:09,410
S5: Karl Drought last week mate.

857
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:14,450
S4: Yeah I know the win streak is over. Uh, unbelievable.

858
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,620
S4: I only took 25 games for a non Kiwi team

859
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:21,590
S4: to beat a Kiwi team with him in charge. Well done.

860
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:25,609
S4: That's some work. Uh, Karl, tell me why my Reds

861
00:45:25,610 --> 00:45:26,779
S4: are going to win this game.

862
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:31,310
S6: Um, I'm. I'm speaking on behalf of the entire New Zealand.

863
00:45:31,340 --> 00:45:32,180
S6: Who cares?

864
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,350
S4: Um.

865
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,049
S6: You know, planes.

866
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:38,989
S4: Fly, planes go back every hour, mate. Feel free to

867
00:45:38,989 --> 00:45:39,380
S4: jump on.

868
00:45:39,590 --> 00:45:44,239
S6: Yeah, yeah. No. Hang on. Um, it'll be interesting. I think, um,

869
00:45:45,110 --> 00:45:47,900
S6: that the Thais have been able to win ugly this year,

870
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,540
S6: which is something that they haven't done for a long time.

871
00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:54,230
S6: But in saying that this is their first test of

872
00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:59,210
S6: the year, you know, of, uh, even even despite, you know,

873
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,250
S6: some of the games they've had. This is their first

874
00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:04,640
S6: real test of the year. And, um, I think to

875
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,040
S6: be honest, I think they'll probably come up short. Um,

876
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:10,790
S6: they've got a good first front row. Um, they've got

877
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:13,610
S6: a couple of good backs. Although, um, I'm not sure

878
00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:16,760
S6: how Teddy Wilson or. Sorry. Uh, Crichton will go. Crichton

879
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,270
S6: will go. Um, no. Sorry. There's Teddy Wilson. Not sure

880
00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:26,930
S6: how he'll go. Um, but. And the reads to me

881
00:46:26,930 --> 00:46:31,219
S6: are just a lot more settled. And, um, I'm not

882
00:46:31,219 --> 00:46:34,160
S6: that concerned about Hunter Paisami. To be honest, I think

883
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,370
S6: he's a player who is hugely Usually overrated with this

884
00:46:38,370 --> 00:46:42,330
S6: huge expectation that he was always showing heaps of potential

885
00:46:42,330 --> 00:46:45,870
S6: that's never actually developed or been on the field for

886
00:46:45,870 --> 00:46:49,380
S6: anyone to actually notice at any time. Um, so I

887
00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:52,320
S6: don't really don't really care about him being back and

888
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,879
S6: not being back. And in fact, I think the team

889
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,310
S6: might actually be weaker with him back in it. I don't,

890
00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,100
S6: I don't I don't think he actually offers as much

891
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,610
S6: as what a lot of people thinks he think he offers. Um,

892
00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:05,910
S6: the big thing for the Reds this week is what

893
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:09,149
S6: game do they play and how do they step up

894
00:47:09,150 --> 00:47:11,820
S6: from all the mistakes they made last week? And if

895
00:47:11,820 --> 00:47:15,150
S6: they do that, then I think they'll win comfortably. But

896
00:47:15,150 --> 00:47:18,120
S6: if they keep trying to play that helter skelter game

897
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,879
S6: and they keep trying to push things which aren't on,

898
00:47:20,910 --> 00:47:25,650
S6: then I think they might struggle. Um, and with James

899
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:28,980
S6: Dallman refereeing and I and I know, I, I know

900
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:31,170
S6: a lot of you guys don't like him, um, for

901
00:47:31,170 --> 00:47:35,400
S6: a lot of reasons. I'm sure. James James Doleman James

902
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,160
S6: Doleman is a referee who, if the ball is available,

903
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:40,990
S6: he doesn't give a shit what people does. Just get

904
00:47:40,989 --> 00:47:43,750
S6: the ball out and play. And if and if one

905
00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:46,120
S6: of if one of the captains or one of the

906
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,540
S6: teams adapts to that better than the other team, then

907
00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:52,900
S6: I think that could be a deciding factor in this game. So.

908
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:54,910
S6: So to me, I think the Reds will win. I

909
00:47:54,910 --> 00:47:56,980
S6: think they're at home. I think they've got enough going

910
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:59,290
S6: for them. I think after last week they've got a

911
00:47:59,350 --> 00:48:01,510
S6: they've got a line in the sand that they need

912
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:04,030
S6: to put down and cover. So I think they'll probably

913
00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:07,270
S6: do that. And I think Chris is smart enough coach

914
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:09,910
S6: to be able to get that out of them. Um,

915
00:48:10,270 --> 00:48:12,730
S6: but but I think they need to make some changes.

916
00:48:12,730 --> 00:48:15,370
S6: And if they're not careful, the Waratahs could come back

917
00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:19,120
S6: at them. Um, interestingly, I think if the Waratahs win,

918
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,070
S6: it'll be really close. But if the Reds win, I

919
00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:24,460
S6: think they'll win quite comfortably. So I'm going to say

920
00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:29,170
S6: the the Reds by 12 plus Sally.

921
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,880
S5: Uh now the Reds are going to win. Yeah. Um.

922
00:48:35,469 --> 00:48:37,780
S5: so the red, the Reds are better. Uh, got a

923
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,900
S5: better back. Five in the forwards. They got a better halves.

924
00:48:41,050 --> 00:48:47,410
S5: They got better centers. Um, and older heads. So, no,

925
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,130
S5: I think the Reds, if they keep their heads and

926
00:48:51,130 --> 00:48:53,410
S5: they cut down on those silly passes, the Reds should

927
00:48:53,410 --> 00:48:58,990
S5: have this just by not getting sucked into the hype

928
00:48:58,989 --> 00:49:02,560
S5: of the festival of hate and doing stupid shit as

929
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,630
S5: we Festival of hate as what we used to call

930
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:06,430
S5: it back in the day. Because there will be high

931
00:49:06,460 --> 00:49:09,790
S5: ball through the week in Queensland, there will be lunches

932
00:49:09,790 --> 00:49:12,340
S5: and there will be all the old fellas coming out

933
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:14,560
S5: telling their stories. But if they can stay away from

934
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,210
S5: that and keep their heads. Um, the Reds will win this.

935
00:49:19,210 --> 00:49:24,370
S5: But it's a game that both teams love playing and

936
00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:28,540
S5: both sets of, um, former greats. So if that's what

937
00:49:28,540 --> 00:49:34,160
S5: you want to call them. Foggies love hyping up And, um, yeah,

938
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:39,050
S5: it'll be a big week for a lot of people. So, uh. Enjoy, fellas.

939
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,340
S5: But the Reds will win.

940
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:45,980
S4: Look, it's.

941
00:49:46,010 --> 00:49:47,600
S6: My heart is saying.

942
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:54,200
S4: Look, um, obviously, obviously, I'm going to take the Reds.

943
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:59,990
S4: Just couldn't. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't, but, um, they.

944
00:50:00,140 --> 00:50:02,750
S4: It's interesting what you said about, uh, dom and wanting

945
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:06,470
S4: speed of ball. Uh, if if that's what he wants,

946
00:50:06,469 --> 00:50:09,500
S4: then the Reds, I think, benefit more from that. Uh,

947
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:11,840
S4: because they do want to play a high paced game.

948
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:16,969
S4: The AI based on, you know, based on if you

949
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:19,969
S4: looking at the ends for the Reds being Tom liner

950
00:50:20,210 --> 00:50:26,450
S4: by Sammy, um. And unfortunately Liam Wright's injured his shoulder again.

951
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,259
S4: That's a really bad one. Uh, but I think if

952
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:32,880
S4: you look at it, timeline, it provides that direction that

953
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,900
S4: probably HMP didn't have last week where he wanted to

954
00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:40,080
S4: play at the same tempo as Tate, McDermott and the

955
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,150
S4: guys outside him. So that's where it got a bit

956
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:47,700
S4: helter skelter. Um, Tomlin is not the flashiest, um, fly

957
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:50,460
S4: half in the world. Very English obviously, because that's where

958
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:53,100
S4: he grew up. Um type of fly half. So he,

959
00:50:53,130 --> 00:50:56,219
S4: he provides the calm head, the direction, the big the exit,

960
00:50:56,219 --> 00:50:58,919
S4: all that stuff. That probably is quite important for this

961
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,390
S4: team at the moment. Um, so for me, I just

962
00:51:03,390 --> 00:51:05,580
S4: think the ceiling for the Reds at the moment is

963
00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:09,420
S4: a little bit higher than the ceiling for the, the Waratahs. Uh,

964
00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,450
S4: so even with my head, I think the the Reds

965
00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:15,990
S4: will win this game. And I think it'll be I

966
00:51:15,989 --> 00:51:18,330
S4: think it's 7 to 10. I think it's 7 to 10.

967
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,880
S4: It could it could blow out in a bit bit

968
00:51:20,910 --> 00:51:23,610
S4: bit bigger than that I think the Reds are uh

969
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,260
S4: will be specials to this game.

970
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:29,819
S6: Hey. For the Reds with Henry, Henry and Flook.

971
00:51:30,330 --> 00:51:30,779
S4: Yeah.

972
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,040
S6: Henry. Henry's a 12 and flux of 13, isn't he?

973
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:36,089
S4: That's correct. Yeah.

974
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,840
S6: Yeah. And to me, that's the weakness that the Reds

975
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,050
S6: have got at the moment. Yeah. Um, I'm, as I've mentioned,

976
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,719
S6: I don't rate Hunter Paisami that much. I think he's

977
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,620
S6: a little bit overrated. And I didn't think he had

978
00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:52,890
S6: a good game at centre last week. He. He reminded

979
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:56,070
S6: me a lot of Rico Iranian that he I yoani

980
00:51:56,070 --> 00:51:59,819
S6: that he, um, he doesn't know when to pass and

981
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:00,960
S6: when not to.

982
00:52:01,110 --> 00:52:01,590
S4: Yeah.

983
00:52:01,620 --> 00:52:04,649
S6: And and which is, which is fair because you're a

984
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:08,190
S6: wing coming into the centre. So. So I think, um,

985
00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:10,950
S6: that could be an issue. I like Andrew Kellaway. I

986
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:13,859
S6: thought Kellaway had an exceptional game last week. I thought

987
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:15,930
S6: it was his best game of fullback, that I've seen

988
00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:19,020
S6: him play this year. And I think that with the

989
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:23,129
S6: pressure off of him from some of the bullshit that's

990
00:52:23,130 --> 00:52:25,950
S6: going on, which must piss him off so much and

991
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:28,000
S6: he can actually just be there and play his game?

992
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,570
S6: I think he's he's actually a very good 15. Um,

993
00:52:31,570 --> 00:52:34,330
S6: but yeah, I still I still think the Reds will

994
00:52:34,330 --> 00:52:36,670
S6: win this game. Yeah, um I can't Kellaway.

995
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:39,490
S4: Kellaway is the kind of player that like a Conrad

996
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:42,399
S4: Smith to use the New Zealand example, that you really

997
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,600
S4: notice it when he's not there.

998
00:52:43,630 --> 00:52:46,210
S6: Yeah. He's he he. The thing is he's a smart

999
00:52:46,210 --> 00:52:49,870
S6: guy who makes smart decisions. Rugby. Smart rugby decisions, you know.

1000
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:52,900
S4: Doesn't, you know, doesn't mean all the metrics in terms

1001
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:55,330
S4: of athleticism and all that sort of stuff, but just

1002
00:52:55,330 --> 00:52:57,910
S4: really good at rugby. Yeah. Um, yeah.

1003
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,420
S5: Talking about fullbacks, uh, I'd be much more happy if

1004
00:53:01,420 --> 00:53:02,859
S5: Jock Campbell was back.

1005
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:04,660
S4: Yeah. Correct that. Uh, yeah.

1006
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,969
S5: I am a bit of a murray's doing a job

1007
00:53:06,969 --> 00:53:09,670
S5: for us, but he's not a fullback. Yeah. No.

1008
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:14,739
S4: No, he's, um, he's, uh, he's a he's been he's

1009
00:53:14,739 --> 00:53:17,439
S4: had a spotty start, but he's been pretty much again,

1010
00:53:17,469 --> 00:53:19,930
S4: the if you look at last week they were pretty

1011
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:24,130
S4: very inexperienced coming up against you know Havili and you

1012
00:53:24,130 --> 00:53:26,870
S4: know Jordan and seven separate races is not going to

1013
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:29,359
S4: be an easy task when you you know, it's all right.

1014
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:31,640
S4: It's all right if one guy's in there and he's

1015
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,040
S4: young and inexperienced, but when everyone's inexperienced, you know, 10

1016
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,779
S4: to 15 are inexperienced and they're up against those guys,

1017
00:53:38,810 --> 00:53:42,410
S4: you know, who are genuine world class players, um, that's

1018
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:43,790
S4: going to be a tough day at the office. If

1019
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:46,669
S4: you're one one guy out there, then you can maybe

1020
00:53:46,670 --> 00:53:48,770
S4: be covered up and be told where to go a bit.

1021
00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:52,370
S4: But when everyone everyone's got the same experience level.

1022
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:54,710
S6: It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see where the

1023
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:58,220
S6: mckellar's got the smarts to take advantage of that. Um,

1024
00:53:58,460 --> 00:53:59,480
S6: you know. Yeah.

1025
00:53:59,510 --> 00:54:02,540
S4: Um, I'll push back. I'll push back on me a bit.

1026
00:54:02,540 --> 00:54:05,569
S4: I think his biggest issue is he plays the game

1027
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,620
S4: quite physical, but he's not a big player like he's not.

1028
00:54:09,739 --> 00:54:12,590
S4: You know, if he he plays the game like ma'a Nonu,

1029
00:54:12,590 --> 00:54:15,529
S4: but he's ma'a Nonu like like he's just. He's 90

1030
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,580
S4: kilos Manon. He's 110. So that's kind of that's kind

1031
00:54:19,580 --> 00:54:22,640
S4: of the big thing. He plays physically but does everything.

1032
00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:24,590
S4: He's got good short game, all that sort of stuff.

1033
00:54:24,590 --> 00:54:27,140
S4: But when he goes to that next level at tests,

1034
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:30,350
S4: he's probably just not quite big enough to maintain that,

1035
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:33,709
S4: that style of play. Whereas at this level, he looks good. Um,

1036
00:54:33,739 --> 00:54:37,310
S4: that's my view. But Isaac Henry, step.

1037
00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:40,129
S5: Up from a guy who played two games.

1038
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:40,730
S4: Correct?

1039
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,310
S6: Yeah. No, no, I agree that he's got he's got

1040
00:54:43,340 --> 00:54:45,319
S6: the he's got the knowledge. I just yeah.

1041
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,000
S4: Um, and I agree.

1042
00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:50,540
S5: No, no. Um, not putting a slight on Dre at all,

1043
00:54:50,540 --> 00:54:53,180
S5: but he's at the beginning of his career and he's still. Yeah.

1044
00:54:53,180 --> 00:54:54,290
S4: So yeah.

1045
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,140
S6: Yeah. Although I'd, I'd question a guy who's not big

1046
00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:59,180
S6: enough to play that game and keep playing that game.

1047
00:54:59,180 --> 00:55:00,979
S6: And he's not big enough. Maybe he needs to sort

1048
00:55:01,010 --> 00:55:02,150
S6: out how he plays.

1049
00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:06,530
S4: Yeah. But again, he's you know he's he's good enough

1050
00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:08,930
S4: to play at you know he he plays very well

1051
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:12,950
S4: at this level. Um and and and he's just, and he's,

1052
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,380
S4: you know, to use you know, as much as I

1053
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:19,250
S4: hate quoting Eddie Jones, he's not a test match animal. Um,

1054
00:55:19,340 --> 00:55:21,530
S4: so he's he's very good in defence and he's a

1055
00:55:21,530 --> 00:55:22,770
S4: good ball playing and all that stuff.

1056
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,620
S5: And he has developed his game. He's, he's he's bought

1057
00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:27,509
S5: a passing. He's bought a kick in. Yeah.

1058
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,610
S4: Yeah. Absolutely absolutely.

1059
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,000
S5: As you said my on my highlight.

1060
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:37,259
S4: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And and you know he was he

1061
00:55:37,260 --> 00:55:40,830
S4: was until his injury last year Isaac Henry was probably

1062
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:43,890
S4: supplanting him in the Reds back line. Yeah. He was

1063
00:55:43,890 --> 00:55:45,719
S4: playing some really good footy and then did his.

1064
00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:49,020
S6: Yeah I was um I was really disappointed to hear

1065
00:55:49,020 --> 00:55:53,009
S6: about Henry injury because I in those games he played

1066
00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:55,380
S6: last year, I rated him I rated him as almost

1067
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:59,400
S6: the best, the best second five eight in in Australia. Um,

1068
00:55:59,430 --> 00:56:01,980
S6: leading up into those first few games, he was playing

1069
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:05,130
S6: really well. Yeah. Again, he's not a big boy. He's

1070
00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:07,980
S6: not a big crash player. But he played smart rugby well.

1071
00:56:08,010 --> 00:56:10,950
S4: He is a big boy. But no he.

1072
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:11,129
S6: He.

1073
00:56:11,489 --> 00:56:13,470
S4: He is but yeah yeah he's he's a big boy.

1074
00:56:13,469 --> 00:56:17,340
S4: He's just you know um he's just he's built and

1075
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:20,400
S4: he's strong and he's all those things, uh, probably not

1076
00:56:20,410 --> 00:56:23,799
S4: as fat through the ass as, say, a Polynesian guy,

1077
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,500
S4: but he's strong. Big, strong guy.

1078
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:28,390
S6: Man through the ass.

1079
00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:29,830
S4: Well, that's.

1080
00:56:29,890 --> 00:56:30,250
S6: Just.

1081
00:56:30,340 --> 00:56:32,440
S4: The way it works. Yeah.

1082
00:56:32,830 --> 00:56:34,930
S5: I'm not going to take that personally because I'm Melanesian,

1083
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,220
S5: not Polynesian. So.

1084
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:42,430
S4: Right. Yes. Um, yeah. Look, I just think the, um. Yeah,

1085
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:45,700
S4: the the Reds this weekend, and it's drying in Brisbane

1086
00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:50,650
S4: as well. So the the storm's gone. Um, it'll be a,

1087
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:53,560
S4: it'll be a hopefully a dry day, but look, just,

1088
00:56:53,590 --> 00:56:58,360
S4: you know, the cyclone's all gone. Um, Lang Park drains

1089
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,140
S4: really well, so it'll be a it'll be ready to roll.

1090
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:09,310
S4: Ready to roll? Um. Okay, gents. Last section shouting at clouds.

1091
00:57:09,310 --> 00:57:12,370
S4: Is anything bugging you at the moment, Sally? Anything you

1092
00:57:12,370 --> 00:57:13,540
S4: want to get off your chest.

1093
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,240
S5: Oh, cop me on the hop again. I should think

1094
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,260
S5: about these things before we.

1095
00:57:17,290 --> 00:57:18,730
S4: We do it every week, mate. It shouldn't.

1096
00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:18,940
S5: Be.

1097
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:19,840
S4: A surprise.

1098
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,150
S5: I was angry last night.

1099
00:57:22,450 --> 00:57:25,120
S4: I'll swing over to Karl. What do you think? What? What?

1100
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:26,440
S4: Anything on your goat, Karl.

1101
00:57:27,070 --> 00:57:31,030
S6: Um, I think, um, my my shouting at the clouds actually,

1102
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:35,410
S6: is is is France and the French coach, they they

1103
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:39,400
S6: want a good game. They all we heard about was

1104
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,540
S6: that frigging injury to DuPont with all their whingeing and moaning.

1105
00:57:43,570 --> 00:57:47,590
S6: It was looked at by it was reviewed on the field.

1106
00:57:47,710 --> 00:57:48,010
S4: Mm.

1107
00:57:48,070 --> 00:57:53,050
S6: The TMO, the ers and the referee all looked at

1108
00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:55,090
S6: and said no there was nothing in there. It was

1109
00:57:55,090 --> 00:57:58,660
S6: an accident. It was a rugby accident which happens after

1110
00:57:58,660 --> 00:58:02,410
S6: the match. He then calls up and cites him. It

1111
00:58:02,410 --> 00:58:05,740
S6: gets looked at again and the same result comes up.

1112
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:09,520
S6: And so now he's going on social media, going on

1113
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,550
S6: and on about it. You know, you're a good team,

1114
00:58:12,550 --> 00:58:15,190
S6: you're a good coach, you've got a good team. But

1115
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:19,040
S6: you're starting to turn into a South African coach. Stop

1116
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,220
S6: your frigging whingeing, you bloody wanker.

1117
00:58:22,610 --> 00:58:24,410
S5: And by the looks of it, it was pretty innocuous,

1118
00:58:24,590 --> 00:58:25,010
S5: wasn't it?

1119
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,120
S4: Yeah. It was. Oh, no.

1120
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:30,110
S6: Look, he fell on his leg. Absolutely. DuPont went down

1121
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:32,480
S6: and his foot slid out, and the guy fell on it.

1122
00:58:32,510 --> 00:58:36,350
S6: You know, his foot slid out because he didn't. I

1123
00:58:36,350 --> 00:58:39,560
S6: don't know whether he had proper springs or those plastic

1124
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,110
S6: things or whatever. Whatever the reason. But his foot slid

1125
00:58:42,110 --> 00:58:43,730
S6: out and the guy fell on it and he got injured.

1126
00:58:43,730 --> 00:58:45,800
S6: And it's a bad injury and I feel for the guy.

1127
00:58:45,830 --> 00:58:48,410
S6: You know, he's a brilliant player and I wouldn't wish

1128
00:58:48,410 --> 00:58:51,350
S6: that injury on anything. But the way his coach is

1129
00:58:51,350 --> 00:58:54,830
S6: carried on. I really hope Scotland beat him this week

1130
00:58:54,830 --> 00:58:57,800
S6: just because of the way he's carried on after the match.

1131
00:58:57,830 --> 00:59:00,620
S6: I don't think it'll happen, but God, I wish it would.

1132
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,280
S5: Thank you. If Scotland win by 103 points, they can

1133
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,510
S5: still win the Six Nations.

1134
00:59:06,350 --> 00:59:07,760
S4: You're saying there's a chance, boys?

1135
00:59:07,790 --> 00:59:08,900
S7: There's a chance.

1136
00:59:09,470 --> 00:59:12,440
S6: It should be interesting with. I actually think the game

1137
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:14,360
S6: of the week is going to be Italy versus Ireland.

1138
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,520
S6: Because I actually would not be surprised to see Italy

1139
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,070
S6: beat Ireland this week. Italy are at home. They're a

1140
00:59:20,070 --> 00:59:25,500
S6: different team at home. And and Ireland, they they have

1141
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,720
S6: so many troubles in their game at the moment. They

1142
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,720
S6: don't know what the hell they're doing. I think Ireland

1143
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,020
S6: probably will win, but I won't be surprised if Italy does.

1144
00:59:34,290 --> 00:59:34,590
S7: Yeah.

1145
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:38,850
S4: The um. Yeah. In the, in the Six Nations I

1146
00:59:38,850 --> 00:59:43,290
S4: think the, the real game is Wales v England. Um because.

1147
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,840
S6: Wales. Yeah. And and in Wales.

1148
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:49,560
S4: Yeah. And it's in Wales. But it does just show

1149
00:59:49,590 --> 00:59:52,020
S4: you know when we were bagging the shit out of

1150
00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:54,150
S4: Australia and we're bagging this, you know, the shit out

1151
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:57,570
S4: of the Welsh. Um, the difference between being good and

1152
00:59:57,570 --> 01:00:01,140
S4: being average, uh, is not that great. I mean, Wales

1153
01:00:01,140 --> 01:00:03,570
S4: have put in since Gatland's gone. You could say it's

1154
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,850
S4: a dead cat bounce, but they put in some really

1155
01:00:05,850 --> 01:00:10,380
S4: good efforts and lost both games. But you know they

1156
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:15,480
S4: performed completely differently. So again coaching matters. Yeah, but it's.

1157
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,910
S4: But it's that thing of you're not that far away

1158
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:21,180
S4: from being garbage, and you're not that far away from

1159
01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:23,010
S4: being right at the top table again.

1160
01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:24,060
S6: But like drew.

1161
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,850
S4: Yeah, a bit like a bit like the drew. A

1162
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:28,020
S4: bit like. So yeah.

1163
01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:30,600
S6: Like the Kane's actually at the moment. But there you go. Yeah.

1164
01:00:30,990 --> 01:00:31,710
S6: Yeah yeah.

1165
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:35,640
S4: The with the DuPont one. Apparently players are being taught

1166
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:39,000
S4: now um you don't clean out head on, try to

1167
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:42,120
S4: clean out slightly so that you don't hit hit the head,

1168
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:44,430
S4: you know. So you're going more for the you're going

1169
01:00:44,430 --> 01:00:47,340
S4: more for the shoulder. And that's what's happened. It's basically

1170
01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:49,890
S4: gone through there. Slid down the side. Someone's come in

1171
01:00:49,890 --> 01:00:53,760
S4: over the top. And um you know and Porter's come

1172
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,280
S4: in behind him. DuPont was in a good position for

1173
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,560
S4: the Jackal, but with the way it all sort of

1174
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,440
S4: collapsed in him. Yeah, he got done. Um, yeah.

1175
01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:05,430
S5: Uh, well, that's a natural progression from from the head

1176
01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:07,950
S5: high and people over there and not being able to

1177
01:01:07,980 --> 01:01:10,650
S5: take them face to face on and getting and people's

1178
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,160
S5: people getting suspended for head I and that situation that

1179
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,860
S5: to come from the a bit from the side. And

1180
01:01:18,250 --> 01:01:21,820
S5: it's a consequence of the of the actions of world Rugby.

1181
01:01:21,850 --> 01:01:24,580
S6: I think um, and I think the issue for me

1182
01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:30,700
S6: on all this is that, you know, it's a bit like, um, with,

1183
01:01:30,700 --> 01:01:34,420
S6: with Dolman and his refereeing, you know, the scrums, the

1184
01:01:34,420 --> 01:01:38,140
S6: rucks being one, there is nothing the opposition team is

1185
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:40,419
S6: going to do charging in. That's going to win them

1186
01:01:40,420 --> 01:01:44,350
S6: the ball. So why do it? What are you achieving.

1187
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,650
S6: You know. Yeah. And I know it's a timing thing

1188
01:01:47,650 --> 01:01:50,980
S6: and I understand that. And and you see enough times

1189
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:53,140
S6: when they do come in because they time it right.

1190
01:01:53,140 --> 01:01:55,240
S6: And they have the right bodies that you know, you

1191
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,310
S6: saw the Crusaders push the Reds off the ball a

1192
01:01:57,310 --> 01:01:59,350
S6: couple of times last week in fact, saw the the

1193
01:01:59,350 --> 01:02:02,410
S6: Reds blow the Crusaders away because they timed it right.

1194
01:02:02,410 --> 01:02:05,740
S6: So when you time it right it works. But there's

1195
01:02:05,740 --> 01:02:08,590
S6: that second where you haven't timed it right. You're not

1196
01:02:08,590 --> 01:02:10,570
S6: going to win. There's nothing you're going to do that's

1197
01:02:10,570 --> 01:02:12,160
S6: going to get the ball back. All you're going to

1198
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,060
S6: do is crash into someone. What are you achieving? Why

1199
01:02:16,060 --> 01:02:18,880
S6: would you do it? And I and I think that

1200
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,200
S6: that's part of where the game needs to start developing,

1201
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,170
S6: where these players need to start understanding. There's nothing I

1202
01:02:26,170 --> 01:02:29,200
S6: can do to win that charging in. All I'm going

1203
01:02:29,230 --> 01:02:32,170
S6: to do is hurt myself or hurt someone else. Stop

1204
01:02:32,170 --> 01:02:34,450
S6: doing it and look at the next play and get

1205
01:02:34,450 --> 01:02:36,040
S6: my timing better next time.

1206
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,130
S4: Yeah, my my view is that the there should be

1207
01:02:39,130 --> 01:02:42,520
S4: more responsibility placed on the cleaners to maintain their feet

1208
01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:45,730
S4: because you see it time and time again. You know,

1209
01:02:45,730 --> 01:02:48,040
S4: if a guy guy, you know, and you hear the

1210
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,890
S4: referee say, oh, you pulled out like, you know, pulled

1211
01:02:50,890 --> 01:02:53,650
S4: out of the ruck, well, the cleaner should still have

1212
01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:57,550
S4: responsibility to maintain his feet. You see, you see particularly

1213
01:02:57,550 --> 01:02:59,950
S4: and it's it's not a community level. But at the

1214
01:02:59,950 --> 01:03:03,400
S4: higher level you see guys literally they're flying into rucks. Yeah.

1215
01:03:03,430 --> 01:03:05,920
S4: Completely off their feet. And if the guy jumps out

1216
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,690
S4: of the way, what's he supposed to do? Stand there

1217
01:03:07,690 --> 01:03:10,850
S4: and get melted. Like if he gets out of the way,

1218
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,430
S4: the ref goes, oh, you pulled away. It's like, well

1219
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:16,580
S4: he didn't he didn't maintain his feet. He should have

1220
01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:18,590
S4: to maintain, which would mean he'd have to have a

1221
01:03:18,590 --> 01:03:21,350
S4: slower like they talk about it being an airplane takeoff.

1222
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:24,410
S4: He if he if he was worried about the guy

1223
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,020
S4: not being there when he arrived, he would actually have

1224
01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:29,750
S4: to approach it a little bit slower, which would mean that,

1225
01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:32,660
S4: you know, again, he it would make that that space

1226
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:33,710
S4: a safer place.

1227
01:03:33,740 --> 01:03:37,010
S6: A lot of, a lot of these issues like, like that, um,

1228
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,730
S6: like the um, caterpillar and these other things have, um,

1229
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,770
S6: have actually come from northern hemisphere rugby where the referees have, um,

1230
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,710
S6: they're a lot more in the dolman. If they're, if

1231
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:51,860
S6: they're ruck or the contest has been won, then all

1232
01:03:51,860 --> 01:03:54,140
S6: those other things don't have a material effect. So I'm

1233
01:03:54,140 --> 01:03:56,510
S6: not going to worry about them. You know, like, you know,

1234
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:59,630
S6: a halfback walking down halfway down a caterpillar and being

1235
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:02,330
S6: two feet offside, putting his hand in and pushing the

1236
01:04:02,330 --> 01:04:06,330
S6: ball back. So there's about four laws that he's broken Oh,

1237
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,330
S6: and the referee view is that, well, it's not having

1238
01:04:09,330 --> 01:04:13,470
S6: a material effect on the game because the other team

1239
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:15,810
S6: can't win it from that position. So let's just let

1240
01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:17,670
S6: him do it, get the ball out, because it's actually

1241
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:21,120
S6: getting the ball out faster so they can start playing it.

1242
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,220
S6: And unfortunately that's gone that that swing has gone a

1243
01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:28,470
S6: little bit too far. And there's a whole lot of

1244
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:33,060
S6: things happening now where, you know, players should be pinged,

1245
01:04:33,060 --> 01:04:36,689
S6: but the referees are getting away with it. And and

1246
01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:39,450
S6: now it's spreading out around the world because, you know,

1247
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,210
S6: people are seeing it happen in the northern hemisphere in

1248
01:04:42,210 --> 01:04:45,390
S6: the club and um, internationals up there. So they're doing

1249
01:04:45,390 --> 01:04:48,000
S6: it down here and you're getting the referees from up

1250
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,720
S6: north coming down to referee the games down here. So

1251
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,670
S6: the smart coaches are saying, well this is what he

1252
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:55,830
S6: lets get away with up north. So let's do that

1253
01:04:55,830 --> 01:04:59,310
S6: down here. And then people down here are seeing it.

1254
01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:01,950
S6: And then guys are taking it into Super Rugby. And

1255
01:05:01,950 --> 01:05:04,200
S6: the referees there going well you know these top class

1256
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,720
S6: referees are allowing it. So I should allow it to

1257
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,450
S6: and and yeah it's it's changing the way the game

1258
01:05:09,450 --> 01:05:14,010
S6: is refereed to a certain extent. Um, which some of

1259
01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:15,900
S6: it I think is good. Some of it I think

1260
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:19,530
S6: is bad. I, I, I like that the ball is

1261
01:05:19,530 --> 01:05:21,570
S6: in play more and it's getting out there and people

1262
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,350
S6: are using it. But I think that, um, there are

1263
01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:28,200
S6: people who should be punished, who aren't getting punished, and

1264
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,230
S6: they're getting away with too much. And, and to me, that's,

1265
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:35,010
S6: that's something I don't like that much. Um, but.

1266
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:35,790
S7: What what do you.

1267
01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:38,100
S5: Think's going through a forward's head when he's in that

1268
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:41,910
S5: caterpillar and he thinks, oh, there's the ball. I could

1269
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:44,370
S5: probably move that with my foot, but I might just

1270
01:05:44,370 --> 01:05:48,060
S5: stand here statically while the halfback does it with his hand.

1271
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:48,690
S7: He's thinking.

1272
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,670
S6: I'm going to have a rest. Why should I do anything?

1273
01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:51,930
S7: I can do some frigging.

1274
01:05:51,930 --> 01:05:53,280
S6: Work for once in his life.

1275
01:05:54,750 --> 01:05:55,170
S7: There you go.

1276
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,939
S5: I had a think, um. I want to urge. This

1277
01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:01,380
S5: is my shouting at clouds. I want to urge the

1278
01:06:01,380 --> 01:06:06,340
S5: reds To just tell us in the injury list that

1279
01:06:06,340 --> 01:06:09,400
S5: everyone puts out. So ten teams every week put out

1280
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:12,730
S5: an injury list and say what the injury is and

1281
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,700
S5: an estimate of how long it is. And one team

1282
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:18,190
S5: just puts out a list with nothing else on it

1283
01:06:18,220 --> 01:06:21,340
S5: with just some names. So if that team who is

1284
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:24,100
S5: the Reds could just add a little bit more information,

1285
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:27,730
S5: that'd be great. Thanks. Yeah. Because because us fans would

1286
01:06:27,730 --> 01:06:28,780
S5: love to.

1287
01:06:29,140 --> 01:06:29,470
S7: Yeah.

1288
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:30,400
S6: Fair cool mate.

1289
01:06:31,870 --> 01:06:32,350
S7: Yeah.

1290
01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:32,830
S4: Mhm.

1291
01:06:33,010 --> 01:06:35,170
S5: So there you go. There's a sailing at clouds. Give

1292
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,880
S5: me long enough. Give me a couple of hours and

1293
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,870
S5: I can think of something.

1294
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:41,500
S7: Yeah. Very good, very good.

1295
01:06:41,830 --> 01:06:43,570
S4: I'm full of the joys of life at the moment,

1296
01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:45,280
S4: so I'm not going to even shout out anything.

1297
01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:46,210
S7: Uh.

1298
01:06:47,050 --> 01:06:48,070
S4: Thought I had something to share.

1299
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:48,220
S7: Oh.

1300
01:06:48,220 --> 01:06:49,870
S5: We can. Hong Kong will do that to you.

1301
01:06:50,380 --> 01:06:52,030
S4: Oh, mate, I thought I had something to shout out,

1302
01:06:52,030 --> 01:06:54,580
S4: but actually, I'll tell you what I was annoyed at.

1303
01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:57,940
S4: And I may have called someone a nasty word, uh,

1304
01:06:57,940 --> 01:07:01,669
S4: on the weekend when DuPont got injured to that point. Um,

1305
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:05,030
S4: I would say that I, um, I, uh, at a

1306
01:07:05,030 --> 01:07:07,040
S4: bar and there was a whole stack of Irish there

1307
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,850
S4: and a few French people, and it's all good banter. And, um,

1308
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,490
S4: some of the Irish people actually cheered when the punt

1309
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,510
S4: got injured and were doing the crybaby noises like, miss

1310
01:07:17,540 --> 01:07:21,200
S4: me with that? Like, that is, that's the biggest wankery

1311
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,890
S4: and bullshit. And I still get pissed off at, um, uh,

1312
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:27,230
S4: the New Zealanders when they when they cheered, when Quade

1313
01:07:27,230 --> 01:07:29,840
S4: Cooper did his knee at Eden Park and the waterfall,

1314
01:07:29,870 --> 01:07:32,510
S4: that sort of stuff. Missed me with that. Like, I'm

1315
01:07:32,510 --> 01:07:34,610
S4: all for a good, hard, physical game, but I don't

1316
01:07:34,610 --> 01:07:36,770
S4: want to see people. I'd never want to see a

1317
01:07:36,770 --> 01:07:39,680
S4: guy get hurt, and I never want to see a, um,

1318
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,740
S4: someone cheering when that happens, you know, grow.

1319
01:07:42,740 --> 01:07:43,160
S7: Up.

1320
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:45,620
S4: That that really gets my fucking.

1321
01:07:45,650 --> 01:07:46,010
S7: My.

1322
01:07:46,310 --> 01:07:47,030
S4: Shit going.

1323
01:07:47,060 --> 01:07:48,890
S7: Like, cool, man.

1324
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,980
S4: Yeah. I was ready to start. I had just enough

1325
01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:55,580
S4: alcohol to be ready to start taking a swing like that's.

1326
01:07:57,740 --> 01:07:58,430
S4: So big.

1327
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,120
S6: Man.

1328
01:07:59,150 --> 01:08:00,470
S4: Fucking Yeah, I know.

1329
01:08:00,710 --> 01:08:02,540
S6: If you ever get like that, remind me so I

1330
01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:03,890
S6: can get the hell out of your way. Because I

1331
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:05,390
S6: don't want to be hurt by you. Happy?

1332
01:08:05,420 --> 01:08:11,570
S4: Yeah, perfectly fine, mate, because I cannot fight for shit. Hey. Jeez.

1333
01:08:11,570 --> 01:08:13,640
S5: I'm glad you didn't get a Waratahs fan on the night.

1334
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:14,780
S5: How good would that have been?

1335
01:08:14,930 --> 01:08:20,930
S4: Oh, I know, I know. Um. Where does that leave us?

1336
01:08:21,170 --> 01:08:22,969
S4: Are we all done for the day? I think we.

1337
01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:24,350
S6: Are. My friend, I think we are.

1338
01:08:24,380 --> 01:08:27,049
S4: Yeah. Um, if you're still listening to this drivel, thank

1339
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,950
S4: you very much. We appreciate it. Uh, again, download. Give

1340
01:08:30,979 --> 01:08:32,689
S4: us a give us a five star rating. We do

1341
01:08:32,689 --> 01:08:35,750
S4: need it. We want to keep growing the growing the

1342
01:08:35,750 --> 01:08:39,080
S4: show for what it can be. And, um, I'll see

1343
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,610
S4: you boys next week. Bye for now.

1344
01:08:40,790 --> 01:08:41,510
S5: Hey the Reds.

1345
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:44,810
S6: Good luck today, guys. Good luck on Sunday, guys.

1346
01:08:45,050 --> 01:08:45,830
S4: Up the Reds.

1347
01:08:46,010 --> 01:08:46,640
S5: Catch us later.

1348
01:08:46,670 --> 01:08:48,710
S6: Yeah, up their ass. No, I didn't mean that.

1349
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:51,320
S1: You don't know anything about rugby.

1350
01:08:51,350 --> 01:08:55,370
S2: Don't drop go from Larkham, Australian creeper.

1351
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,689
S3: They've got the advantage.

1352
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,790
S1: Worst press conference. Well done boys.