WEBVTT - GAGR's Talking Teams The First Test Team

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<v S1>You don't know anything about rugby. Don't talk.

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<v UU>Gregan. Drop go from Larkham Australian creep forward. They've got

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<v UU>the advantage.

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<v S1>Worst press conference. Well done boys.

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<v S2>Hi everyone and welcome to the Gadget Teams podcast for

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<v S2>the week. I'm the happy man and it's just Sully

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<v S2>with me tonight to go through the first wallaby squad

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<v S2>of the year. Evening, Sully. How are you going?

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<v S3>I'm good mate. How are you? Good, good.

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<v S2>Just a bit of a change to run on a Thursday.

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<v S2>But we waited until the teams were announced so that

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<v S2>we'd have something to talk about. Loving life. Uh, ladies

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<v S2>and gentlemen, thank you very much for your support. It's, uh,

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<v S2>improving nicely week on week. Please, uh, don't forget to download, rate, subscribe,

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<v S2>review on all the platforms we're on YouTube and all

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<v S2>those sorts of things. Uh, tonight's probably just going to

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<v S2>really just drill into the Australia and Wales game. We'll

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<v S2>touch on a few of the other games that are

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<v S2>going on around the world and uh, go for uh,

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<v S2>a bit of a shouting at clouds moment at the end. Sully,

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<v S2>what were you what was your highlight of the week?

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<v S3>Oh, man. It's, uh, it's, uh, rinse and repeat for me, mate. I, uh,

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<v S3>had a had a check in on the Maori, All Blacks, uh, versus, uh,

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<v S3>Eddie Jones's team, and, uh, he got smashed again, so

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<v S3>I'm happy about that again. So I'm, I'm, I'm sad

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<v S3>about Japan. I mean, they don't deserve that, but it's

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<v S3>Eddie Jones and I just don't care anymore. So I'm

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<v S3>over him. He's had done enough to Australian rugby and

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<v S3>the Reds over the years and I'm done. So. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v S2>Schadenfreude is good for the soul, my friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

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<v S2>I just like the, uh. I like the fact that the, uh, team,

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<v S2>the Australian team looks like. And the Australian coaching seems

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<v S2>to be looking like it's run by adults at the moment.

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<v S2>So long may that continue. But we're at that point

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<v S2>of the year where hope and expectation meets reality. We're

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<v S2>about get stuck into the big games so quickly. Let's

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<v S2>run through the team for the for the Australians. We've

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<v S2>got uh. James Slipper, uh, at loosehead Matt Fezler at

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<v S2>uh hooker Taniela Tupou starts at tighthead. Jeremy Williams and

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<v S2>Lukhan Salakaia-loto make up the locking combination. Uh Liam Wright

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<v S2>is at six and captain with Fraser McBryde at seven,

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<v S2>Rob Valentini at eight, Jake Gordon at nine, Nilo Lucio

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<v S2>playing at fly half, Filipo Daugunu and Andrew Kellaway on

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<v S2>the wings. Hunter Paisami and Josh Luke make up the

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<v S2>centres and Tom Wright starts on at fullback. The substitutes

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<v S2>we've got Billy Pollard as a hooker, Isaac Kelly and

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<v S2>Alataua as the props. Angus Blyth, Charlie Kyle make up

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<v S2>the loose trio in the back and Tate McDermott, Tom

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<v S2>Liner and Dylan Peach are the back replacements. What do

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<v S2>you think of the Australian team? Sydney?

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<v S3>Um, yeah, I'm surprised how strong it is, mate. I'm.

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<v S3>I'm a little bit, um, concerned about combinations. Like, we've got, uh,

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<v S3>props from three different clubs. We've got, uh, locks from

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<v S3>two different clubs, you know, back row, um, from two

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<v S3>different clubs, uh, halves from different clubs. Um, as I

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<v S3>was saying to you earlier, the finishing without injuries, the

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<v S3>finishing backline would have a few players or mostly from

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<v S3>from one club. If if everyone stays fit, but just

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<v S3>meshing together quickly in like, what was it been two weeks? Uh,

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<v S3>it might be difficult to get some cohesion there, but

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<v S3>I'm liking it. They all seem to be like form

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<v S3>players playing well. The big surprises like two weeks ago

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<v S3>before the squad was named, would you think Angus Blythe's

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<v S3>name would be on that list?

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<v S2>You could have. Yeah. There's no chance I would, I

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<v S2>would have. He for me, for mine. He's the biggest star.

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<v S2>He's the biggest surprise. If you look at body of

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<v S2>work availability what he's actually done this year. I think

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<v S2>if you asked him, he'd be surprised. Yeah. So he

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<v S2>just I don't think he's done enough. I think there's

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<v S2>there's a whole stack of players who I think have

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<v S2>done more. Uh, so yeah, it's a massive surprise for me.

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<v S2>Massive surprise. I can I can only hope that they're

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<v S2>they're seeing something that I haven't for a number of years. Really.

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<v S3>Well, he's he's, uh. He he looks he physically, he's

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<v S3>got everything that an international lock should have. It's just

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<v S3>an attitude adjustment that. Yeah. So maybe that's happened. Going

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<v S3>in his limited time this season, I thought I could

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<v S3>see a change in him, but that hasn't been enough

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<v S3>time to bed that in for me. So. yeah.

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<v S2>Look, if I'd have, you know, using the term that

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<v S2>I had last week about Cocker's law, if you say

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<v S2>that someone you don't think someone should get the job,

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<v S2>you should name a replacement. I think you'd go Nick Frost,

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<v S2>Darcy Swain. Both would be more able replacements. And that's

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<v S2>coming from a Queenslander. Yeah.

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<v S3>Well, I think Darcy Swain suffers from the same thing

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<v S3>that Angus Bligh's suffers from his little head explosion.

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<v S2>So a little bit, a little bit. But I think

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<v S2>he's limited that last this year. So I and I

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<v S2>think Nick Frost is the sort of has, you know,

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<v S2>some big athletic, high quality second rower that I think

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<v S2>I would probably have on there. And at a pinch

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<v S2>you can throw him at six as well.

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<v S3>So it's I'm surprised not to see him in the

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<v S3>side at all.

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<v S4>Yeah yeah.

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<v S2>Yeah.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>I thought, uh, Jack Gordon was. Was lucky. I'm surprised

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<v S2>to see him.

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<v S3>Yeah. Yeah. He's had a few chances to start in

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<v S3>wallaby teams. And I'm surprised the new coaches, I guess.

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<v S3>But I'm surprised to see him get another chance.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah. Look.

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<v S2>It's very hard to take his form because he was

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<v S2>playing behind a pack that was really suffering a lot,

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<v S2>you know, so the Waratahs really had a difficult year.

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<v S2>Maybe they've they've seen him play, you know seen him

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<v S2>go around at training where he's actually got a bit

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<v S2>of decent ball and, and said well you know what.

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<v S2>He can play a bit flatter. He's probably to be honest,

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<v S2>he's got a bit of a superior kicking game to, um,

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<v S2>Tate McDermott. But I would have thought Nic White would

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<v S2>be in a better place than either of those to,

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<v S2>you know, to be the starter. Uh, I don't I like,

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<v S2>take McDermott off the bench because I think he's got

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<v S2>that capacity to speed the game up if you want to. Well,

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<v S2>the back end, but.

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<v S3>I think you choose Nick white if you want to

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<v S3>play off nine. Mm. Uh, I, they obviously don't want

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<v S3>to pay off nine. They want to play off ten. So.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>Yeah. And potentially they want to give Lucy a bit

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<v S2>of breathing space. Maybe they've gone with Tate on the

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<v S2>bench because of Tom Warner. They maybe they think they

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<v S2>can bring them on as a tandem. Yeah. Uh, really

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<v S2>excited for Liam Wright. He's had a difficult run with injury.

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<v S2>And getting getting the captaincy band is is a testament

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<v S2>to his to his work. I do like the fact

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<v S2>that they've, uh, named him just for this test series. Uh,

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<v S2>which basically seems to be a bit of a thing

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<v S2>of your form will have to dictate that you picked

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<v S2>in the team, and then we'll have a series of

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<v S2>captains who will go to on that basis. Uh, yeah.

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<v S2>I must be a.

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<v S3>I absolutely agree with that. I'm. I don't think you

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<v S3>should pick a captain for a year. I think that's

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<v S3>that's just wrong. I think you should have a leadership group.

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<v S3>And if your captain doesn't make the team, you pick

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<v S3>a new captain.

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<v S2>But yeah, the days 35, 40 years ago of guys

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<v S2>being the captain, the coach not even talking to them.

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<v S2>Half time a long gone with modern technology. You know,

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<v S2>people are talking at all times to the players on

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<v S2>the field calling whether to go for posts or do whatever. Ultimately,

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<v S2>that seems to be a bit of a thing. Look, Liam.

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<v S3>Liam. Liam Wright has had injury problems, but they haven't

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<v S3>been similar injuries. And they've all been injuries during matches

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<v S3>and haven't like.

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<v S4>Yes. Yeah.

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<v S3>And having said that, he has played all but 16

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<v S3>minutes of this season. So he's.

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<v S4>Played.

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<v S3>A massive I think it's 1100 and something minutes of

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<v S3>the season. He's played a massive amount of minutes. So

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<v S3>any any worries over injury concerns about Liam Wright this

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<v S3>year or should be just forgotten as far as I'm concerned.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah.

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<v S2>100%. I do like the look of our back three

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<v S2>with Andrew Kellaway, Tom Wright, both the form players in

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<v S2>their position.

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<v S3>Yeah, I wouldn't worry about which one's the fullback. Um, no,

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<v S3>it's as far as I'm concerned, it's a shared role. Yeah. And, um, yeah.

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<v S2>Both have a good kicking game. Can come up into

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<v S2>the line. Yeah. If, if you think about, you know,

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<v S2>using the Irish comparable playing Andrew Kellaway at uh on

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<v S2>the wing is very much like a mack Hansen kind

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<v S2>of role where, you know, you can play a bit

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<v S2>of ball, he can come into second receiver, you can

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<v S2>do a lot of different things. So I expect to

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<v S2>see him in a bit of a roving role. The same.

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<v S4>With.

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<v S3>Luke and Daugunu. I wouldn't worry about which ones are

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<v S3>the winger and which ones? The outside centre either. I

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<v S3>mean they around quite easily.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah.

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<v S2>And congratulations to Filipo Daugunu. He's really he's progressed quite,

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<v S2>quite a lot over the last year and a half. Uh,

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<v S2>I think Brad Thorn struck gold when he put him

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<v S2>at outside centre. Yeah. Through necessity at about 18 months ago. And, uh,

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<v S2>hasn't taken a backward step so can play outside center

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<v S2>can play on the wing. Strong defender. Great over the ball.

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<v S4>Well you could see.

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<v S3>Immediately when when thorn did it, it was like a,

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<v S3>uh it worked instantly. And, uh, I was surprised he

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<v S3>didn't stay there. He. I think he only lasted a

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<v S3>week and he went back to wing because I think

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<v S3>it was fluke who was injured at the time. I

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<v S3>can't remember who it was, but, um. Yeah.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah, but it was, uh.

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<v S3>Yeah. And, uh, I think he's played every game at

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<v S3>outside centre this year. I think it this will be

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<v S3>his first game at the wing this year. Um.

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<v S4>So yeah.

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<v S2>I like the balance of our back row with Liam Wright.

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<v S2>He just gets in and does all the hard work.

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<v S2>You've got Fraser Mcreight with a bit of the all

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<v S2>court game. And then uh, Rob Valentini obviously is a

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<v S2>good run running eight. So I think that gives us

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<v S2>really good options there. Yeah, uh I agree. Yeah, obviously

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<v S2>it's an inexperienced side, but uh, again, I don't think

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<v S2>there's a real natural capacity there for for experience to

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<v S2>come through, given what Eddie did to the team last year. Uh,

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<v S2>robbed it of any, any of its real experience and then, uh,

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<v S2>picked on a lot of the, the wrong people to

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<v S2>be to get, get debutants. So it's a it is

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<v S2>a highly inexperienced team when you think that of the starters,

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<v S2>Taniela Tupou is the got second highest test cap at

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<v S2>50 and a mere 84 behind James Slipper. And then

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<v S2>the next highest is what, 39 for Valentine. So there's

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<v S2>there's not a lot of experience there but there's certainly

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<v S2>a lot of ability.

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<v S4>I don't know.

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<v S3>Um I'm not sure they have they haven't added um,

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<v S3>all the reserves.

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<v S4>Um.

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<v S3>Things for Allan Alaalatoa have a few caps.

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<v S4>He would, he Haywood.

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<v S2>Tate McDermott will have a few, but Dylan Pietsch, Tom liner,

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<v S2>Charlie Cale, Angus Blyth all looking at, uh, and Isaac

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<v S2>Collier all looking at uh, debuts. And Billy Pohlad's got

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<v S2>one test. So not exactly what you'd call an experience

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<v S2>sponsor closes, but it needs must.

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<v S3>And Liam Wright's rights. Never started a, never started a

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<v S3>started a test match. And he's, uh, got the captain's armband.

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<v S4>Yeah, yeah, but to be honest.

0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:25.370
<v S3>Liam Wright's been, uh, captaining teams since junior, you know, age,

0:12:25.370 --> 0:12:29.570
<v S3>age grades, teams. So he's no stranger to that that

0:12:29.570 --> 0:12:30.229
<v S3>role at all.

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<v S2>Yeah. And been he's only 26 and has captained the

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<v S2>Reds for since he's been about 22. Uh, and I

0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.660
<v S2>think I think uh, Brad Thorn installed him as captain

0:12:41.660 --> 0:12:44.840
<v S2>when he, when he first got there. Uh, has done

0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.819
<v S2>a sterling job through difficult and now slightly better times. Yeah.

0:12:49.820 --> 0:12:53.660
<v S2>So yeah, it really, really, really liked the look of

0:12:53.660 --> 0:12:56.510
<v S2>the team. I think I would have had, uh, maybe

0:12:56.510 --> 0:13:00.099
<v S2>Nick Whitestone instead of Jake Gordon, but to be honest,

0:13:00.100 --> 0:13:01.810
<v S2>you got to look through it and say, that's pretty

0:13:01.809 --> 0:13:05.740
<v S2>much on on form. Maybe Darcy Swain or, uh, Nick

0:13:05.740 --> 0:13:09.280
<v S2>Frost instead of Jeremy Williams or, uh, or Angus Blyth.

0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:10.900
<v S4>Uh, yeah.

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<v S3>You got to say, uh, just just because you have

0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.210
<v S3>to say it too many times.

0:13:16.210 --> 0:13:17.470
<v S4>Too many times. There's only one, mate.

0:13:17.620 --> 0:13:19.209
<v S2>Well, there's two technically now with.

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<v S4>Andrew.

0:13:19.450 --> 0:13:19.870
<v S2>Kellaway.

0:13:20.500 --> 0:13:21.699
<v S3>Too many stars, mate.

0:13:22.059 --> 0:13:24.280
<v S2>Too many stars. Two, two, two too many.

0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:25.300
<v S4>Just for me.

0:13:26.230 --> 0:13:28.720
<v S2>Maybe that's the, uh. Maybe that was the thing. They

0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.360
<v S2>they can have no fewer than two in any team.

0:13:31.540 --> 0:13:33.220
<v S2>So they had to they had to pick their two

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<v S2>best ones to, to go from there.

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<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>With the uh let's move on to Wales shall we.

0:13:41.890 --> 0:13:45.280
<v S2>With the Welsh team. Really a big bunch of unknown.

0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.540
<v S2>It's a I follow a little bit of northern rugby

0:13:49.630 --> 0:13:54.280
<v S2>and the Welsh. It's a bit hard to follow the URC, uh,

0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.650
<v S2>from down here. We don't really have that a platform

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<v S2>to do. So the, uh Welsh teams, I can tell

0:14:01.150 --> 0:14:04.480
<v S2>you don't haven't been doing well in the URC. Most

0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.780
<v S2>of their team, their uh, their, their squad is picked

0:14:07.780 --> 0:14:11.679
<v S2>from the, from the Welsh teams within the URC, but, uh,

0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.590
<v S2>but some notable names in there. Uh, you've got Tommy Raphael,

0:14:16.620 --> 0:14:20.880
<v S2>who's fantastic, uh, flanker. Gareth Thomas is a well known name.

0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:25.350
<v S2>Liam Williams from Saracens is obviously known to everyone. Uh, Nick,

0:14:25.350 --> 0:14:28.979
<v S2>Nick Tompkins is also known to a lot of people, but, uh,

0:14:28.980 --> 0:14:31.890
<v S2>there's there's not a lot of experience that Christians are

0:14:31.890 --> 0:14:35.880
<v S2>playing at Exeter and is a good player, but in reality,

0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.630
<v S2>it's a pretty. They're probably just as inexperienced as the Australians.

0:14:39.630 --> 0:14:41.340
<v S2>I don't know what their cap number is.

0:14:41.340 --> 0:14:45.600
<v S3>I think it's it's about 15 less than us. We,

0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.030
<v S3>I think we got about 340 caps and there are

0:14:48.030 --> 0:14:51.780
<v S3>about 325 from. Yeah. Memory. Yeah.

0:14:52.290 --> 0:14:52.740
<v S4>Yeah.

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<v S2>Yeah. And if you think Australia's got some poor form

0:14:56.700 --> 0:15:00.450
<v S2>running into it off the World Cup, Wales are if

0:15:00.450 --> 0:15:03.560
<v S2>they are on a seven match losing streak, they lost

0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.860
<v S2>every game in the Six Nations, including to Italy. Obviously

0:15:06.860 --> 0:15:09.500
<v S2>they lost to South Africa a couple of weeks ago

0:15:09.500 --> 0:15:13.610
<v S2>and they lost their quarter final against Argentina. So they're

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<v S2>not exactly coming down here in red hot form. Uh,

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<v S2>listening to a couple of listening and reading to a

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<v S2>couple of things with their captain, they're talking about putting

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<v S2>in a base game. So I think that that's code

0:15:25.250 --> 0:15:26.810
<v S2>for we're going to kick the daylights out of the

0:15:26.810 --> 0:15:32.690
<v S2>ball and defend like anything. Uh, which will be interesting. Uh, look,

0:15:32.690 --> 0:15:35.270
<v S2>the the names that I do know that in that

0:15:35.270 --> 0:15:39.710
<v S2>Welsh squad who are worth looking looking at for them.

0:15:39.710 --> 0:15:42.320
<v S2>Mason Grady is the I think he's the, uh, one

0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.650
<v S2>of the centres. He's a very good player. Needs to

0:15:45.650 --> 0:15:49.010
<v S2>work on his defence a little bit, but is very good. Very.

0:15:49.010 --> 0:15:52.340
<v S2>the big body kind of George North kind of player. Uh,

0:15:52.340 --> 0:15:56.900
<v S2>Tommy Rafael is high quality. He was probably their best

0:15:56.900 --> 0:16:01.310
<v S2>best player during the Six Nations. For those that watch the, uh,

0:16:01.310 --> 0:16:02.540
<v S2>Christians is.

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<v S4>Um, what does.

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<v S3>What position does Tommy Rafael.

0:16:05.540 --> 0:16:05.810
<v S4>Play?

0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.560
<v S2>He's, uh, I think he plays seven. Okay. Seven, six,

0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.890
<v S2>eight kind of player. Um, you know, just that kind

0:16:12.890 --> 0:16:16.390
<v S2>of real hard on ball, tough player who, you know,

0:16:16.390 --> 0:16:21.250
<v S2>just takes a lot of lot of beating, uh, there

0:16:21.250 --> 0:16:25.630
<v S2>obviously then they're without their, uh, their captain from when

0:16:25.630 --> 0:16:28.390
<v S2>they played Australia and gave us a proper flogging at

0:16:28.390 --> 0:16:32.860
<v S2>the World Cup. He's injured. Uh, so, you know, they're.

0:16:32.860 --> 0:16:33.460
<v S4>They're.

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<v S2>They're a team that's certainly in transition, probably even more

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:42.370
<v S2>so than Australia at the moment. Uh, I'm actually expecting

0:16:42.370 --> 0:16:45.670
<v S2>them to play a lot without the ball and try

0:16:45.670 --> 0:16:48.520
<v S2>and work their way back into in and keep the

0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.310
<v S2>game close and hopefully pinch it at the end. That's

0:16:51.310 --> 0:16:54.070
<v S2>my expectations of how they're going to play. Where have

0:16:54.070 --> 0:16:56.170
<v S2>you got any comments about the Welsh team my friend?

0:16:56.290 --> 0:16:59.859
<v S3>No, I'm I'm terribly underprepared for the for the Welsh mate.

0:16:59.860 --> 0:17:02.680
<v S3>I haven't seen them um play. I haven't even seen

0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.190
<v S3>them play against South Africa last week. So I'm just

0:17:06.190 --> 0:17:08.350
<v S3>winging it here, mate. Unfortunately, yes.

0:17:08.950 --> 0:17:10.869
<v S2>Well, for those of us who are a bit old,

0:17:10.869 --> 0:17:13.480
<v S2>you can, uh, certainly feel old by knowing that, uh,

0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.460
<v S2>one of the reserves for the Welsh is a guy

0:17:15.460 --> 0:17:20.110
<v S2>by the name of James Botham. And for context, he's

0:17:20.109 --> 0:17:24.490
<v S2>not Ian Botham's son, he's Ian Botham's grandson. So comes

0:17:24.490 --> 0:17:27.180
<v S2>from good stock. But, uh, you know, you're getting old

0:17:27.180 --> 0:17:29.699
<v S2>when you're watching somebody. When I was growing up, I

0:17:29.700 --> 0:17:35.910
<v S2>liked Ian Botham and his grandsons now playing international rugby. Uh,

0:17:35.910 --> 0:17:37.170
<v S2>so that's, uh.

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.510
<v S3>One thing I did pick up is the only player

0:17:39.510 --> 0:17:43.300
<v S3>left from the team that beat Australia, uh, 40 to

0:17:43.300 --> 0:17:47.220
<v S3>6 in the World Cup was, uh, Liam Williams the

0:17:47.220 --> 0:17:50.760
<v S3>only player still in the team from that game? Yeah.

0:17:51.270 --> 0:17:57.240
<v S3>So it's a major turnover, um, of, uh, players since then. And, uh,

0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.060
<v S3>from what I can hear, what I've heard is Warren

0:18:00.060 --> 0:18:04.860
<v S3>Gatland has been searching for, um, new players like to

0:18:04.859 --> 0:18:09.840
<v S3>take over from, you know, that that, um, that group

0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:14.480
<v S3>of players that took them through that golden era. Yeah. Uh,

0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.590
<v S3>from from his first in as coach. We've just all

0:18:18.619 --> 0:18:20.180
<v S3>got old like the rest of us.

0:18:20.690 --> 0:18:21.260
<v S4>Yeah.

0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.500
<v S2>Look, you've got to gotta take your hat off to

0:18:24.500 --> 0:18:27.770
<v S2>Gatlin for going back to back to the. Well, look,

0:18:27.770 --> 0:18:31.250
<v S2>he's gotten Wells awfully close a couple of times. If

0:18:31.250 --> 0:18:34.790
<v S2>you go back to, you know, 2011, they were basically

0:18:34.790 --> 0:18:38.030
<v S2>a red card away from getting getting to the final.

0:18:38.030 --> 0:18:41.870
<v S2>They would have beaten France. Uh, they made the semi

0:18:41.869 --> 0:18:45.410
<v S2>final in Japan. They've they've been a high performing. He's

0:18:45.410 --> 0:18:49.730
<v S2>managed to squeeze that lemon pretty dry. I my biggest

0:18:49.730 --> 0:18:51.649
<v S2>concern is I think they're just a bit light on

0:18:51.650 --> 0:18:56.179
<v S2>cash at the moment. Uh, their under 20s aren't going great.

0:18:56.180 --> 0:19:01.760
<v S2>They're they're sort of struggling at every level. Uh, and

0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.160
<v S2>it's going to be a bit of a push for

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.540
<v S2>them to, to get, uh, get results going forward. But

0:19:09.170 --> 0:19:12.680
<v S2>they'll give a good account of themselves. Yeah. I'm going

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.800
<v S2>to tip Australia by ten points. But look, I would

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.590
<v S2>pick Australia against anyone just because I'm Australian.

0:19:18.590 --> 0:19:20.330
<v S4>So so with.

0:19:20.330 --> 0:19:25.100
<v S3>The limited um, with the limited time together, what game

0:19:25.100 --> 0:19:28.840
<v S3>plan do you think Australia is going to trot out?

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.200
<v S3>Are they going to, you know, uh, try and kick

0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.430
<v S3>their way out and defend and hope for scraps? Or

0:19:36.430 --> 0:19:38.920
<v S3>are they going to try and run the ball and attack?

0:19:38.950 --> 0:19:39.160
<v S4>Look.

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<v S2>I think they'll be smart enough to not try anything

0:19:43.390 --> 0:19:47.320
<v S2>too amazing. I think they'll they'll have worked out a

0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:52.060
<v S2>whole stack of starter plays and they'll be pretty on

0:19:52.060 --> 0:19:55.720
<v S2>point as far as that's concerned. There. I don't think

0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.480
<v S2>they're going to try. I don't expect them to try

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.430
<v S2>and play too much from deep. I think they'll really

0:20:00.430 --> 0:20:02.230
<v S2>just try to work themselves in the right parts of

0:20:02.230 --> 0:20:06.250
<v S2>the field and then go from there. They I think

0:20:06.250 --> 0:20:08.590
<v S2>they'll back their aerial game. Dangun is good in the air.

0:20:08.619 --> 0:20:10.510
<v S2>Callaway is good in the air. Tom Wright's been very

0:20:10.510 --> 0:20:15.010
<v S2>good in the air this year. Uh, look, our back

0:20:15.010 --> 0:20:19.500
<v S2>three I think is is looking pretty solid. The and

0:20:19.500 --> 0:20:22.740
<v S2>I think we can actually we can actually take them

0:20:22.740 --> 0:20:26.370
<v S2>apart up front there there scrums not been going well

0:20:26.670 --> 0:20:31.740
<v S2>and they've actually got a, a more inexperienced scrum coming out.

0:20:31.740 --> 0:20:36.119
<v S2>So as opposed to at the World Cup where they

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:41.490
<v S2>absolutely handed their asses to us, They I believe they'll

0:20:41.490 --> 0:20:44.400
<v S2>they'll struggle at scrum time. This this time around I

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.060
<v S2>would have gone with Alataua starting and Tupo off the bench.

0:20:48.060 --> 0:20:52.109
<v S2>But hey potato, potato. Maybe they're looking at getting 30

0:20:52.109 --> 0:20:54.600
<v S2>30 minutes out of two start or whatever. See how

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.850
<v S2>he's going. Uh, but yeah, I'm going to I'm going

0:20:56.850 --> 0:21:00.060
<v S2>to take Australia by ten. I just think we'll, we'll

0:21:00.060 --> 0:21:02.640
<v S2>have a little bit, bit more going on than they will.

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.280
<v S2>I think they've had a long season, haven't had a

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.150
<v S2>lot of time together. Two weeks ago they played South Africa,

0:21:09.180 --> 0:21:14.580
<v S2>got beaten pretty handily. Uh, yeah I think we and

0:21:14.580 --> 0:21:19.080
<v S2>but that's more hope than reality. We've not seen these

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.660
<v S2>guys together for some time. It's not like we can

0:21:21.660 --> 0:21:24.479
<v S2>point back to last year, last year's World Cup and say, oh,

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.310
<v S2>this is what our game should look like.

0:21:26.310 --> 0:21:27.119
<v S4>Yeah, South.

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.210
<v S3>Africa is a completely different beast to what we put

0:21:29.210 --> 0:21:32.570
<v S3>out like this. You know, like they're all power. And

0:21:32.570 --> 0:21:36.409
<v S3>this is all, um, speed sort of thing, that's all. Yeah.

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.369
<v S2>Yeah. But we're also, you know, we don't know what

0:21:40.369 --> 0:21:42.350
<v S2>Australia is going to look like because they haven't played

0:21:42.350 --> 0:21:47.540
<v S2>together and the coaching team is completely changed. Yeah. And realistically,

0:21:47.540 --> 0:21:50.990
<v S2>I couldn't see any real discernible game plan at any

0:21:50.990 --> 0:21:54.199
<v S2>stage last year for Australia. We really didn't seem to

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.679
<v S2>have a clue of what what they were trying to achieve. Uh,

0:21:57.830 --> 0:22:02.480
<v S2>so no, I'm I'm just reliant on the fact that

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:06.620
<v S2>we've got adults running the show. You know, Laurie Fish

0:22:06.619 --> 0:22:09.740
<v S2>is going to make us good at contact. The Welsh

0:22:09.740 --> 0:22:11.960
<v S2>will be hard on the ground, hard on the ball,

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:16.780
<v S2>on the ground. Uh, my biggest concern is one of

0:22:16.780 --> 0:22:21.220
<v S2>my favorite TMO. Marius Jonker is having a having a crack. Yeah,

0:22:21.220 --> 0:22:26.050
<v S2>he's he's an awful TMO. Maybe it's just a South

0:22:26.050 --> 0:22:33.100
<v S2>African accent, you know check check. So but yeah but

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.290
<v S2>generally I'm excited. You know we're.

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.149
<v S4>Generally excited week of the.

0:22:37.150 --> 0:22:40.060
<v S3>Year. Uh in rugby mate Australia was stern before the

0:22:40.060 --> 0:22:43.720
<v S3>test match. Um. Your natural. I've been writing about it

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:48.640
<v S3>for for the weekend edition. Um, like the the Australian,

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.649
<v S3>the Wallabies could be anything this week. We could be

0:22:50.650 --> 0:22:53.290
<v S3>world beaters. We could we could be winning the cup

0:22:53.290 --> 0:22:55.060
<v S3>in a in a in a month or two. You know,

0:22:55.060 --> 0:22:59.560
<v S3>we could be we could be, um, you know, we

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:01.390
<v S3>could be on our way to winning the World Cup.

0:23:01.390 --> 0:23:03.100
<v S3>You know, this is the best week in the year

0:23:03.100 --> 0:23:04.600
<v S3>because nothing's gone wrong yet.

0:23:04.910 --> 0:23:06.830
<v S4>Yeah, exactly.

0:23:06.950 --> 0:23:10.280
<v S3>New coaches. We've got a new squad. It's. Yeah. And, um,

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.370
<v S3>the natural Australian optimism is in full flight.

0:23:13.850 --> 0:23:14.540
<v S4>Correct.

0:23:14.750 --> 0:23:18.320
<v S3>So, um. Yeah. It's wonderful. It's just like this and

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.810
<v S3>the and the the week before the Super Rugby season

0:23:20.810 --> 0:23:27.050
<v S3>starts is just, um. It's, uh. Nirvana. Yes. Wonderful.

0:23:27.050 --> 0:23:27.500
<v S4>Yeah.

0:23:27.619 --> 0:23:32.850
<v S2>100%. 100%. I look, I just, I we'll all have

0:23:32.850 --> 0:23:34.650
<v S2>a little bit more context next week as to what

0:23:34.650 --> 0:23:36.630
<v S2>we can say that they, they look like and how

0:23:36.630 --> 0:23:38.670
<v S2>they played and who played well and all that sort

0:23:38.670 --> 0:23:41.280
<v S2>of stuff. But ultimately, I think we look at the

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.899
<v S2>Australian team and with the parameters they put around, who

0:23:45.930 --> 0:23:48.960
<v S2>they were going to pick and who they have picked,

0:23:49.410 --> 0:23:53.850
<v S2>they're pretty much on form. There's there's only really two

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.520
<v S2>out of the 23 that I can, I can look

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.830
<v S2>at and go, no, I think they shouldn't be there.

0:23:59.130 --> 0:24:02.310
<v S3>So so I was just looking at the games for

0:24:02.310 --> 0:24:04.560
<v S3>the weekend to see if Japan was playing. See if

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.840
<v S3>I can salvage something from the weekend. No.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:08.940
<v S2>Japan's got Mary all black again, so.

0:24:09.060 --> 0:24:09.540
<v S4>Oh, I'll.

0:24:09.690 --> 0:24:11.490
<v S3>Be I'll be right then. I'll be happy next week.

0:24:11.490 --> 0:24:12.900
<v S4>Yeah. Okay.

0:24:13.170 --> 0:24:15.840
<v S2>So how much are you picking Australia by my friend.

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.850
<v S3>Uh, I'm going to go about like. It's hard to

0:24:19.850 --> 0:24:23.060
<v S3>put a number on it because we've got no form for.

0:24:23.060 --> 0:24:25.730
<v S3>I've got no form, really, for either team. I'm. We

0:24:25.730 --> 0:24:28.310
<v S3>do have form whilst has lost seven in a row.

0:24:29.270 --> 0:24:31.760
<v S3>Australia got no form for because it's a new team,

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.700
<v S3>a new coaching team. We can no this form of

0:24:34.700 --> 0:24:38.090
<v S3>the players individually and it's pretty good I reckon. Like

0:24:38.090 --> 0:24:43.820
<v S3>there's no there's no real duds there. Um, I mean, um,

0:24:44.630 --> 0:24:47.359
<v S3>Angus Blyth was playing all right. Hasn't got a lot

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.280
<v S3>of games on it, but he's a reserve and he's

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:53.030
<v S3>going to be on for half an hour. Um. Tennille. Tupo.

0:24:53.180 --> 0:24:56.780
<v S3>Not the fittest he's ever been. Um, but they're all

0:24:56.780 --> 0:24:59.630
<v S3>playing reasonably and was playing his way into in pretty

0:24:59.630 --> 0:25:03.860
<v S3>good form. He's getting better every week. Um, Jake Gordon

0:25:03.859 --> 0:25:06.230
<v S3>was probably one of the better Waratahs players as much

0:25:06.230 --> 0:25:08.570
<v S3>as we give him crap. So yes, there is good

0:25:08.570 --> 0:25:12.350
<v S3>form individually whether they can meld them quickly into a

0:25:12.350 --> 0:25:16.609
<v S3>team and that works pretty well is another thing. But, um,

0:25:16.609 --> 0:25:19.130
<v S3>you as a as an Aussie, I'm going to back him,

0:25:19.130 --> 0:25:23.180
<v S3>I'm going to say by 10 to 15. So two

0:25:23.180 --> 0:25:27.740
<v S3>tries either converted or unconverted. So 10 to 14. Um

0:25:28.070 --> 0:25:33.850
<v S3>hoping for a smashing, but who knows? Um, that's. Yeah,

0:25:34.330 --> 0:25:37.150
<v S3>but it's a it's a lottery, isn't it?

0:25:37.540 --> 0:25:38.260
<v S4>It is.

0:25:38.260 --> 0:25:45.520
<v S2>It is. Absolutely, absolutely. Look, uh, we'll just quickly touch

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.590
<v S2>on some of the other games for the weekend.

0:25:47.619 --> 0:25:50.170
<v S4>It's a smorgasbord this weekend. It is.

0:25:50.170 --> 0:25:53.230
<v S2>A smorgasbord. Some of which you can see and some

0:25:53.230 --> 0:25:55.720
<v S2>of which you can't. But, uh, for those of you

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.949
<v S2>who've got rugby pass TV, the Australian under 20s are

0:25:59.950 --> 0:26:04.959
<v S2>playing Italy in a at 3 a.m. tomorrow morning. But, uh,

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:08.560
<v S2>do yourself a favor. Get up, turn your socials off, and, uh,

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.080
<v S2>jump on and watch it. Uh, directly after that. It

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.200
<v S2>should be fine. Uh, other games.

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:15.520
<v S4>You know.

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.200
<v S3>Pretty sure you can get that on YouTube.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:18.550
<v S4>Yeah, you can, you can.

0:26:18.550 --> 0:26:20.139
<v S2>They do stream it and I think they link it

0:26:20.140 --> 0:26:22.629
<v S2>through YouTube. But, uh, if you've got the Rugby Pass

0:26:22.630 --> 0:26:24.909
<v S2>TV app, it's actually got a whole stack of content

0:26:24.910 --> 0:26:28.810
<v S2>on there. It's really good resource. And, uh, you can

0:26:28.810 --> 0:26:33.729
<v S2>see some really cool games across the whole of the spectrum. Uh,

0:26:33.730 --> 0:26:40.270
<v S2>the men's internationals this weekend we've got Samoa are playing Italy. The, uh,

0:26:41.140 --> 0:26:43.620
<v S2>should be an interesting game. I've seen the Samoan side.

0:26:43.619 --> 0:26:46.410
<v S2>It's got a fair few names that we recognize. It's

0:26:46.410 --> 0:26:49.650
<v S2>been played in Apia, so that'll be a cracker. Be

0:26:49.650 --> 0:26:52.560
<v S2>a great occasion. Uh, hope to get some footage of

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.490
<v S2>that for my one of the games of the of

0:26:56.490 --> 0:26:58.619
<v S2>the weekend. Georgia v Fiji.

0:26:58.740 --> 0:26:59.400
<v S4>Yeah.

0:27:00.180 --> 0:27:06.359
<v S2>At 2 a.m. on, uh, on, uh, Saturday. It's going

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.600
<v S2>to be played in, uh, in Georgia. That'll be a

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.139
<v S2>cracking game. Real contrast of styles. Most of all, the

0:27:13.140 --> 0:27:16.020
<v S2>Fijians will be in the team. So it'll be a really,

0:27:16.020 --> 0:27:22.830
<v S2>really good game. The USA are playing Romania the and

0:27:22.830 --> 0:27:25.800
<v S2>obviously for our for us the big games for the weekend.

0:27:26.310 --> 0:27:29.790
<v S2>Uh New Zealand are playing England. I'm going to take

0:27:29.790 --> 0:27:32.390
<v S2>New Zealand. What about you, Sally?

0:27:32.630 --> 0:27:36.860
<v S3>Yeah. Anyone? Anyone against England? Yeah. New Zealand, definitely New Zealand. Um,

0:27:36.859 --> 0:27:39.949
<v S3>that'll be so interesting. Um, you know, new coach for

0:27:39.950 --> 0:27:45.290
<v S3>New Zealand. So like, not. Oh, I'm interested to see

0:27:45.290 --> 0:27:51.050
<v S3>how good, how long. Um. Sami Peni Finau last international.

0:27:51.050 --> 0:27:51.409
<v S4>Rugby.

0:27:51.410 --> 0:27:55.250
<v S3>Before he gets his first yellow card. Um or Or

0:27:55.250 --> 0:27:59.240
<v S3>he can go his kamikaze hits. Um, yeah. Like hits. But, um,

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.990
<v S3>that's an interesting team. Um, what was the comment all

0:28:02.990 --> 0:28:07.610
<v S3>Aussie front row for? Yes. But, um, yeah, I think

0:28:07.609 --> 0:28:10.100
<v S3>the All Blacks can get up against England. That's going

0:28:10.100 --> 0:28:11.000
<v S3>to be a good game though.

0:28:11.450 --> 0:28:12.500
<v S4>Yeah, yeah.

0:28:12.500 --> 0:28:13.969
<v S2>No, I said that just to get a rise out

0:28:13.970 --> 0:28:14.990
<v S2>of Carl, but, uh.

0:28:15.260 --> 0:28:16.460
<v S4>It didn't really work. Yeah.

0:28:16.940 --> 0:28:21.230
<v S2>Apparently Codie Taylor's first junior club was Logan in Brisbane. Um,

0:28:21.410 --> 0:28:25.580
<v S2>Logan boy. Tyrel. Tyrel Lomax obviously is from Canberra. And, uh, Ethan.

0:28:25.580 --> 0:28:27.230
<v S2>The group was born on the Gold Coast. So there

0:28:27.230 --> 0:28:30.950
<v S2>you go. Um, now I look, I, I like New Zealand.

0:28:30.980 --> 0:28:34.700
<v S2>They let's be let's be honest, they're it's a very

0:28:34.700 --> 0:28:38.030
<v S2>good looking team. Hoskins. Sotutu didn't get it. Didn't make

0:28:38.030 --> 0:28:41.540
<v S2>the squad. I have no idea how, but, uh. And

0:28:41.540 --> 0:28:44.200
<v S2>he could well be Super Rugby player of the year. Yeah,

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:49.240
<v S2>the good team all throughout the English fancy themselves. They

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.370
<v S2>really do. Listening to a few of the English podcasts

0:28:51.370 --> 0:28:54.040
<v S2>this week and some of their media, they, they sort

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.980
<v S2>of think they've got a good, good shot at winning. Look,

0:28:56.980 --> 0:29:00.820
<v S2>I think reality's going to bite them. When don't they

0:29:00.820 --> 0:29:03.100
<v S2>really do have a high expectation of what they should

0:29:03.100 --> 0:29:05.830
<v S2>be doing. But yeah, I'm I don't think.

0:29:05.980 --> 0:29:08.560
<v S3>They're still telling us that they were the better team

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.100
<v S3>in the ashes. Um, last year was it last year

0:29:12.910 --> 0:29:17.920
<v S3>with the baseball when, um, both. We got, um, stumped,

0:29:18.190 --> 0:29:20.980
<v S3>which was the anniversary last week or something. Yeah. So

0:29:20.980 --> 0:29:24.580
<v S3>they're saying that they they flogged us. So they're still

0:29:24.580 --> 0:29:27.970
<v S3>even in hindsight, they're the better side as far as they're.

0:29:28.270 --> 0:29:29.260
<v S4>So yeah.

0:29:30.430 --> 0:29:33.150
<v S2>Anyway, we'll see what happens on the weekend, obviously. Uh,

0:29:33.150 --> 0:29:38.490
<v S2>then that's the game before the Australia Wales game. Then

0:29:38.490 --> 0:29:41.880
<v S2>immediately after about the same time, Japan will be playing

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.420
<v S2>the Maori All Black again. So. So they'll be hoping

0:29:45.420 --> 0:29:48.450
<v S2>for another 5050 gap on them again.

0:29:49.350 --> 0:29:54.720
<v S3>They personally. Yeah. Especially if the, the uh yeah. If

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.330
<v S3>the worst happens anyway, it go. Yeah.

0:29:57.780 --> 0:29:58.770
<v S4>Uh, South.

0:29:58.770 --> 0:30:02.130
<v S2>Africa are playing Ireland. This will be a good this

0:30:02.130 --> 0:30:04.590
<v S2>would be a cracking game. This this will be worth

0:30:04.590 --> 0:30:06.630
<v S2>getting up at 1:00 in the morning to have a

0:30:06.630 --> 0:30:11.190
<v S2>look at. I, um, Ireland have won I think the

0:30:11.190 --> 0:30:15.780
<v S2>last 2 or 3 against South Africa. Um, they've won

0:30:15.780 --> 0:30:17.459
<v S2>like five out of the last six, but like the

0:30:17.460 --> 0:30:21.120
<v S2>last six games apparently have all been less than a score. Uh,

0:30:21.210 --> 0:30:23.880
<v S2>the Spurs are up for it. You can really tell

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.930
<v S2>some of the commentary. They've really been trying to build

0:30:27.930 --> 0:30:31.860
<v S2>some beef with Island. Uh, you know, some of the

0:30:31.860 --> 0:30:35.280
<v S2>commentary is just absolutely crazy, you know? Oh, well, you know,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.260
<v S2>getting upset because they said to them after they beat

0:30:37.260 --> 0:30:39.480
<v S2>them in the pool stages, we'll see you in the final.

0:30:39.900 --> 0:30:43.710
<v S2>How is that something that you should be thinking is derogatory? Um,

0:30:43.740 --> 0:30:46.040
<v S2>you know, or because you think you're going to beat

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.960
<v S2>the All Blacks? They only lost by a point to

0:30:48.650 --> 0:30:51.920
<v S2>point or two points to the All Blacks. So no, it's, uh,

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.060
<v S2>South Africa are a weird mob. I'm probably going to

0:30:56.060 --> 0:30:58.490
<v S2>take Ireland in this game. I think they're they're good.

0:30:58.490 --> 0:31:01.400
<v S2>They're missing the they're missing their halfback. They've got a

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.740
<v S2>few players out injured and one's going to the, uh,

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.530
<v S2>going to the, uh, Olympics.

0:31:07.370 --> 0:31:10.820
<v S3>Oh, I don't know, mate. It's that, uh, it's the altitude.

0:31:10.820 --> 0:31:12.470
<v S3>And it's in South Africa.

0:31:12.650 --> 0:31:12.980
<v S4>Okay.

0:31:12.980 --> 0:31:16.190
<v S2>Glasgow in the USA said seemed to prove that altitude

0:31:16.190 --> 0:31:16.910
<v S2>didn't matter.

0:31:17.090 --> 0:31:17.630
<v S4>Okay.

0:31:18.230 --> 0:31:18.620
<v S2>Yeah.

0:31:19.250 --> 0:31:21.350
<v S3>But that was robbed, mate. They were robbed.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.570
<v S4>They were robbed? Yes.

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.709
<v S2>Yeah. Look, it'll be it'll be a cracking game and, um,

0:31:27.710 --> 0:31:32.840
<v S2>it'll be next level physicality that one. Argentina are playing

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.250
<v S2>The French don't know which French team is going to

0:31:36.250 --> 0:31:38.140
<v S2>turn up. Apparently they've sent out the bunch of kids

0:31:38.140 --> 0:31:42.730
<v S2>to Argentina. Now DuPont, obviously all of their top 13

0:31:42.730 --> 0:31:45.430
<v S2>players were playing in the final last week, so I

0:31:45.430 --> 0:31:47.230
<v S2>don't know what that French team will look like. They

0:31:47.230 --> 0:31:51.700
<v S2>generally don't tour well in their off season. Uh, and

0:31:51.700 --> 0:31:52.840
<v S2>then Chile are playing Hong.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:53.620
<v S4>Kong.

0:31:53.740 --> 0:31:57.580
<v S2>And Canada are playing Scotland. So plenty of uh, plenty

0:31:57.580 --> 0:31:58.780
<v S2>of games this weekend.

0:31:58.870 --> 0:32:00.760
<v S4>That is a crap. Yeah.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.450
<v S3>And yeah. Like those those, uh, the Kiwis in England

0:32:04.450 --> 0:32:07.690
<v S3>and uh, Springboks and uh, Ireland are just that's the

0:32:07.690 --> 0:32:10.570
<v S3>cream of the crop and that, uh, Fiji game. I

0:32:10.570 --> 0:32:11.920
<v S3>reckon that'll be a cracker too.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.580
<v S2>Yeah. Me too, me too. I'm, uh, an investigate how

0:32:15.580 --> 0:32:17.830
<v S2>I can watch that. Because I think that will be

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:22.180
<v S2>a really interesting game. Yeah. Georgians Jordan's playing at home.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:23.650
<v S3>I wonder what the temperature is going to be like

0:32:23.650 --> 0:32:25.870
<v S3>in Georgia this time of year. I'm not sure what

0:32:25.870 --> 0:32:26.320
<v S3>it'll be.

0:32:26.350 --> 0:32:30.010
<v S2>I have to find out it. From my understanding of Georgia,

0:32:30.010 --> 0:32:33.460
<v S2>it's either one of two things. Really, really hot or really,

0:32:33.460 --> 0:32:34.660
<v S2>really cold.

0:32:34.690 --> 0:32:38.710
<v S4>Yeah, well, you have to think it's hot. Yeah.

0:32:39.430 --> 0:32:41.170
<v S2>Yeah. This time of year, you'd have to expect it

0:32:41.170 --> 0:32:45.190
<v S2>would be really hot. So. Yeah. So that's what we

0:32:45.190 --> 0:32:48.720
<v S2>think of the, uh, the weekend. Uh, anything on your

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:49.770
<v S2>mind that you want to have a bit of a

0:32:49.770 --> 0:32:51.780
<v S2>rant about at the moment, Sally or.

0:32:51.780 --> 0:32:55.380
<v S3>Oh, no, I'm just all all wrapped up in, um.

0:32:56.430 --> 0:32:58.410
<v S3>I'm all wrapped up in the build up to this, uh,

0:32:58.410 --> 0:33:02.850
<v S3>test match. I'm. I'm just loving it. I'm checking the forums, like,

0:33:02.850 --> 0:33:05.700
<v S3>every half hour just to see what people are saying.

0:33:05.700 --> 0:33:10.180
<v S3>And I've been. So I was excited to see the

0:33:10.540 --> 0:33:13.060
<v S3>the squad. I was excited to see the team or

0:33:13.060 --> 0:33:15.940
<v S3>the speculation of the team. Yeah, okay, I'm going to

0:33:15.940 --> 0:33:18.880
<v S3>have a rant about one thing I'm sick about. I'm

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.420
<v S3>I want the team to be released. Like I want

0:33:22.420 --> 0:33:25.180
<v S3>to sit and wait for the team to be released.

0:33:25.690 --> 0:33:28.810
<v S3>At the time. I don't want it to be leaked. Uh,

0:33:29.020 --> 0:33:31.870
<v S3>you know, I don't want all such and such is

0:33:31.870 --> 0:33:34.610
<v S3>going to be captain or. Or this guy is going

0:33:34.610 --> 0:33:37.250
<v S3>to be the halfback. I just want I don't want

0:33:37.250 --> 0:33:39.860
<v S3>little bits and pieces to be leaked. I just want

0:33:39.860 --> 0:33:43.040
<v S3>the team to be released. And I think that just

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.850
<v S3>builds the tension more than just all these little leaks, like, um,

0:33:47.390 --> 0:33:50.960
<v S3>I basically filling in for you for the Thursday news

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.950
<v S3>this morning, I was I was able to put together

0:33:54.950 --> 0:33:59.570
<v S3>20 of the 23 players in the right positions today

0:33:59.570 --> 0:34:02.870
<v S3>from all the leaks, and that takes a bit of

0:34:02.870 --> 0:34:05.810
<v S3>the I mean, some people love it. For me, it

0:34:05.810 --> 0:34:08.420
<v S3>took a bit of the fun out of it. Yeah. No,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.020
<v S3>I would prefer just to wait till I don't know

0:34:12.020 --> 0:34:13.969
<v S3>when it came out 12:00 today was it.

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:15.560
<v S4>Yeah, something like that.

0:34:15.980 --> 0:34:19.339
<v S3>And the team to come out and be surprised. I

0:34:19.340 --> 0:34:22.399
<v S3>would love that. So yeah. RA some of us would

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.680
<v S3>just like to tend to come out without the leaks.

0:34:24.980 --> 0:34:25.640
<v S3>Thank you.

0:34:26.630 --> 0:34:26.870
<v S4>Yeah.

0:34:27.500 --> 0:34:30.230
<v S2>Yeah, I, I couldn't agree more. That was going to

0:34:30.230 --> 0:34:33.950
<v S2>be my, my little shout at the moment it's I

0:34:33.950 --> 0:34:35.900
<v S2>just yeah I'd like it to be a bit of

0:34:35.900 --> 0:34:38.330
<v S2>a sense of occasion. Even if they whether they choose

0:34:38.330 --> 0:34:40.730
<v S2>to announce it on the Tuesday do it early to

0:34:40.730 --> 0:34:43.370
<v S2>try and build it. This is who the team is.

0:34:43.370 --> 0:34:45.650
<v S2>But I don't want it. I don't want a drip feed.

0:34:45.650 --> 0:34:49.330
<v S2>I don't like it, I, I think they should do the,

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.970
<v S2>you know, do the Elon Musk thing and like different

0:34:51.969 --> 0:34:55.210
<v S2>things to different people and see, see or tell different

0:34:55.210 --> 0:34:58.180
<v S2>things to different people, whoever they think is, you know,

0:34:58.300 --> 0:35:02.290
<v S2>getting getting backhanders from Christy Doran and, and find out

0:35:02.290 --> 0:35:05.440
<v S2>who who's actually doing what and then go, right, fellas,

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.920
<v S2>you know, this is who we're you're you're the leaker.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:09.880
<v S2>You're out.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.640
<v S3>I'm I just assumed that they knew who they were

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.180
<v S3>leaking it to. Then it was done on purpose. I'm not.

0:35:16.180 --> 0:35:18.640
<v S3>I don't think they're there. I mean, I don't think

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.810
<v S3>they're accidental leaks. No, it's part of their their, um, strategy.

0:35:22.810 --> 0:35:24.250
<v S4>But if if.

0:35:24.250 --> 0:35:28.240
<v S2>It's a strategy, it's annoying me. If it's accidental, they

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.210
<v S2>need to find out who it is and and bullet them.

0:35:31.210 --> 0:35:32.980
<v S4>But. Yeah. No, the build up.

0:35:32.980 --> 0:35:36.270
<v S3>To this test, the first, uh, test in July. I

0:35:36.270 --> 0:35:39.090
<v S3>just love it. I love it like the speculation on

0:35:39.090 --> 0:35:41.430
<v S3>who's going to be in the squad. Just. And then

0:35:41.430 --> 0:35:44.460
<v S3>when the squad is announced and then when like even

0:35:44.460 --> 0:35:48.000
<v S3>when it was trimmed and, and even the speculation are when, uh,

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:53.820
<v S3>Ryan Smith got cut, um, we still don't know. You know,

0:35:53.820 --> 0:35:57.720
<v S3>why Ryan Smith got cut from the team? Um, and

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.480
<v S3>then the teams announced on the build up to the

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.680
<v S3>team and people picking their their first test team. And

0:36:05.340 --> 0:36:10.080
<v S3>nearly everyone, no one picked that test team. Yeah. I mean,

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.779
<v S3>and and, um. Yeah, I just love the build up

0:36:12.780 --> 0:36:14.910
<v S3>for the first test. So that's what's been on my

0:36:14.910 --> 0:36:16.320
<v S3>mind mostly this week.

0:36:16.620 --> 0:36:17.069
<v S4>Yeah.

0:36:18.090 --> 0:36:22.830
<v S3>And yeah. So my rant is the leaks for the

0:36:22.830 --> 0:36:25.770
<v S3>build up to the first test for the test team.

0:36:25.770 --> 0:36:27.960
<v S3>Just spoil it a little bit for me.

0:36:28.530 --> 0:36:29.220
<v S4>Agreed.

0:36:29.370 --> 0:36:32.339
<v S2>It feels like it should be a sense of occasion. Yeah.

0:36:32.790 --> 0:36:36.930
<v S2>You know, the the the team should be. Particularly this

0:36:36.930 --> 0:36:40.799
<v S2>one because it's it's a clean slate. It's not like

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.919
<v S2>you're looking at it going, oh, well, you know, who

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.640
<v S2>are you kind of in the past. You know you've

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.520
<v S2>kind of been going, okay, we know roughly what 10

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.239
<v S2>or 12 of the team are. Maybe they're going to

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.370
<v S2>change around a little bit on the outside, but you

0:36:55.370 --> 0:36:59.240
<v S2>sort of had a clue. Whereas this this really is

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.930
<v S2>a clean slate. He could have picked if he, you know,

0:37:02.930 --> 0:37:06.470
<v S2>had the opportunity and picked 15 debutants and pretty much

0:37:06.469 --> 0:37:09.380
<v S2>everyone would go, well, it's it is a clean slate.

0:37:09.380 --> 0:37:13.430
<v S2>You can start again. Yeah. Uh, look, win, lose or draw,

0:37:13.430 --> 0:37:16.310
<v S2>I just hope there's, uh, a fair amount of goodwill

0:37:16.310 --> 0:37:21.950
<v S2>that's retained towards, um, Joe Schmidt. Like it's taken an

0:37:21.950 --> 0:37:24.110
<v S2>excavator and a lot of digging to get to where

0:37:24.110 --> 0:37:28.880
<v S2>Australia Australian rugby is at the moment. I feel like

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.820
<v S2>this is, you know, let's be a little bit patient

0:37:31.820 --> 0:37:34.190
<v S2>about how we're going to dig out, uh, start climbing

0:37:34.190 --> 0:37:35.060
<v S2>our way out of it.

0:37:35.330 --> 0:37:36.900
<v S4>Yeah. well, look.

0:37:36.900 --> 0:37:41.670
<v S3>Looking at the team, like, besides Frost and Swain, who

0:37:41.700 --> 0:37:44.279
<v S3>who would you have in there besides those two?

0:37:45.030 --> 0:37:46.680
<v S4>Yeah, I mean, I'd.

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.009
<v S2>I'd Nick Ward instead of Jake Gordon.

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:55.440
<v S3>Yeah. And, um, maybe Hodgeman instead of Kalia.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.200
<v S4>Yeah. Yeah, that's probably fair.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.730
<v S2>But it's probably fair from that.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:06.040
<v S3>And Donaldson maybe I don't know. I mean, Donaldson say

0:38:06.250 --> 0:38:07.150
<v S3>a few tests.

0:38:07.450 --> 0:38:08.710
<v S4>Yeah, yeah.

0:38:08.830 --> 0:38:12.130
<v S2>If, uh, I probably could have. I could have lived

0:38:12.130 --> 0:38:16.030
<v S2>with Donaldson on the bench as opposed to Tom liner, because,

0:38:16.030 --> 0:38:18.640
<v S2>to be honest, if Tom liner, if Tom one of

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.210
<v S2>our centres go down, we're we're moving. You know you've

0:38:22.210 --> 0:38:23.950
<v S2>got to means you've got to move to new new

0:38:23.950 --> 0:38:29.049
<v S2>in and you know, so you've kind of got to shuffle. Yeah. Uh,

0:38:29.050 --> 0:38:33.340
<v S2>whereas Tom liner really can't play inside centre. So, you know,

0:38:33.340 --> 0:38:36.130
<v S2>if Hunter Paisami goes down who fills his spot, you know.

0:38:36.130 --> 0:38:39.250
<v S2>So there's there doesn't Donaldson you could argue you could,

0:38:39.250 --> 0:38:43.060
<v S2>could fill a fair bit of, uh, capacity in that backline. Yeah. Uh,

0:38:43.090 --> 0:38:47.290
<v S2>I think they're getting Tom liner to go to sort

0:38:47.290 --> 0:38:48.640
<v S2>of give him a bit of a taste, see if

0:38:48.660 --> 0:38:52.469
<v S2>he's up to it. Yeah, it'll be interesting if it

0:38:52.469 --> 0:38:54.870
<v S2>if it's tight in the lot. It'll take a fair

0:38:54.870 --> 0:38:58.230
<v S2>bit of fair bit of bravery if it's tight with

0:38:58.230 --> 0:39:01.350
<v S2>ten to go or 20 to go to go. Right.

0:39:01.350 --> 0:39:05.580
<v S2>We're going to put Angus Blyth, debutant Charlie Kyle, debutant

0:39:05.610 --> 0:39:08.430
<v S2>Tom line and debutant Dylan Peach, debutant on on.

0:39:08.430 --> 0:39:08.549
<v S4>The.

0:39:08.550 --> 0:39:12.600
<v S2>Field it. That's going to take some stones.

0:39:13.380 --> 0:39:16.410
<v S4>Yeah. Oh look, I just.

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.660
<v S3>I, we kind of glossed over uh, before Tom. Right.

0:39:21.660 --> 0:39:26.160
<v S3>I really think he's taken a major steps forward this

0:39:26.340 --> 0:39:30.089
<v S3>this season. I think his games come a long way

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.630
<v S3>from last year. I think he's I think he's been fantastic.

0:39:34.170 --> 0:39:37.689
<v S3>So I think him and Andrew Callaway are and, uh,

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:43.390
<v S3>are going to, are going to be great in the backfield. Yeah.

0:39:43.780 --> 0:39:44.140
<v S4>You know.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.620
<v S2>Tom Roy always had a good head explosion in him

0:39:47.620 --> 0:39:50.739
<v S2>of doing something utterly stupid. And if you do that

0:39:50.739 --> 0:39:54.310
<v S2>at 15, it generally costs you seven points.

0:39:54.310 --> 0:39:55.419
<v S4>Yeah. Like those little.

0:39:55.420 --> 0:39:57.520
<v S2>But he seems to have eradicated that from his game.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.859
<v S2>And good luck. Good luck to him. Yeah. He's a

0:39:59.860 --> 0:40:03.950
<v S2>bloody good rugby player now. Yep. Who can come into

0:40:03.950 --> 0:40:08.810
<v S2>second receiver who can. So and he in reality he

0:40:08.810 --> 0:40:11.989
<v S2>has in reality they've got three options at second receiver.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.569
<v S3>He has played inside centre before.

0:40:14.870 --> 0:40:15.500
<v S4>Just quite.

0:40:15.950 --> 0:40:17.210
<v S3>A long time ago though.

0:40:17.570 --> 0:40:20.360
<v S4>Yeah. Mm. Yeah.

0:40:20.450 --> 0:40:24.320
<v S2>No it's all good. All good. Anything else to throw

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:25.729
<v S2>in the in the pot, Mike?

0:40:26.300 --> 0:40:27.919
<v S3>Uh, no, that's me mate.

0:40:28.580 --> 0:40:29.870
<v S4>Okay, well.

0:40:30.170 --> 0:40:31.069
<v S2>Once again.

0:40:31.070 --> 0:40:33.620
<v S3>I think we. I think we've done much better without Carl.

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:34.430
<v S4>Yeah.

0:40:34.910 --> 0:40:37.100
<v S2>It's always better without Kiwis. I think he'd want to

0:40:37.100 --> 0:40:38.509
<v S2>talk about the All Blacks too much.

0:40:38.510 --> 0:40:40.100
<v S3>I think we can dump him and.

0:40:41.210 --> 0:40:41.900
<v S4>Give him the brush.

0:40:43.130 --> 0:40:45.950
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0:41:05.050 --> 0:41:07.029
<v S1>You don't know anything about rugby. Don't talk.

0:41:07.210 --> 0:41:12.009
<v UU>Gregan drop go from Larkham Australian great forward. They've got

0:41:12.010 --> 0:41:12.850
<v UU>the advantage.

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<v S1>Worst press conference. Well done boys.