WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 12 June 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:07.960 Late Welcome to the Late Debase. Good evening and welcome 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:08.640 to the program. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.240 I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Stora and Joe Hildebrand. Well, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.320 get the fighter jets ready, that's what Joe Biden reckons 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:17.520 you'll need if you want to take him on. Personally, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.000 I think a feather would probably do the job. But 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.560 we'll tell you why that is later in the show, 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.599 when we get to the papers, we'll tell you about 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.760 the school that spent one hundred thousand dollars on a 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.400 robot dog. I know it costs a lot to buy 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.400 a pure bred dog, but one hundred k seems a 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.559 bit steep to me. And green activists have actually managed 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.839 to make the new portrait of King Charles look better. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.240 We'll show you what it looks like now. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.800 But first, if you were a chicken hearing all the 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.680 news about bird flu over the last few days, you 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.560 may well be reacting. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.280 Something like this. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.360 Let's go. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:03.880 Now. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.520 Apparently the big problem here is that if you have 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.160 chickens in your backyard, you are the real threat. Now 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.680 we know that there are only five outbreaks currently in 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.640 Victoria of bird flu. They have been contained, thousands of 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:26.319 chickens have been killed a million chickens, well, a millionaires thousands, 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:26.720 is it not? 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.240 There are thousands In a minute a million. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.240 Chickens. At least ten chickens have been killed. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.480 Genocide is being perpetrated upon the chickens in order to 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.839 stop the proliferation of bird flu. If you have chickens 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.000 in your backyard in Victoria, or at least across vast 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.520 swaths of the place, you've been told to keep them 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.240 either in a shed or a cage, and there are 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.560 heavy penalties if you. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:53.280 Don't do so. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.760 But one researcher from Queensland seas, just as if you 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.600 thought you know bird flu didn't sound scary enough, this. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:07.040 Is COVID with wings. This is a particular searcher, Dr Mason. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:08.120 He says. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.800 If we consider this like COVID, where we enforced nationwide 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.880 lockdowns to try and contain the spread, this is much 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.520 the same, except all it takes is one infected bird 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.400 to fly the virus from. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.320 A backyard to a chicken farm. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.240 Well, doctor Matt Mason, I have no doubt that it 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.480 could well move between someone's backyard and a chicken farm. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.560 But seriously, it only exists in Victoria. We're not talking 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.840 about the entirety of the country. This is a researcher 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.320 in Queensland talking to the Career Mail, where there. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:47.160 Is no bird flu. Look, I know it's bad. Million 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:48.280 chickens are being killed. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.440 Liz Great, got dozens of chickens. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.520 You've got, You've got Coals. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.360 Has of course restricted the sale of eggs everywhere except 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:58.880 w Way. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.359 Why w Way. I don't know. Maybe they'd buy so. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.600 Many eggs over there, But the egg industry has said 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.320 there is no shortage of eggs. There is nothing to 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.679 worry about. So you pile all this stuff on top 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.440 of each other. It's covid with wings. You know we're 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.680 going to have egg shortages. It's the toilet paper of 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.520 the chicken world. It leads people to think that this 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.040 is some great thing that's going to kill everyone. That's 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.800 going to be the end of chickens in Australia. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:24.760 It's not really that bad. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.120 Yeah, we're going for another hell scare. We're playing the 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.640 fearpool and now now it's bird flu. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.000 It's the latest thing. Everyone get on it. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.400 Meanwhile, only four percent of our twenty one million egg 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.280 laying hens has been affected. Everyone calmed down. It was 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:46.560 only picked up on five farms. That's where the million 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.440 chickens got excommunicated by the way went to chicken Heaven. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.640 The one strain was found on four farms. Another different 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.720 strain was found on the fifth farm. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.480 But the acts that. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.960 This guy's now suggesting that backyard farms could be some 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.240 kind of carriers. If anything, if you've got a few 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.160 choks in your backyard, you're the least likely to have 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.840 a chook with avian flu that's going to fly to 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.480 a farm and infect those guys. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.359 To your chickens in the first place, because you can 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.440 make the farm they've got chickens coming in left, right, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:21.839 et cetera. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:26.960 Indeed, hence they've had doubt chicken flo So the fact 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.040 that this is even being suggested, I hate anything that 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.599 points to any kind of limitations on people who want 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.719 to grow their own food or in this case, just 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.120 have a few eggs hatched in the backyard. Have written 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.400 not well, not hatched, but harvested from the backyard, from 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.520 a few chooks in the backyard. And if that's where 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.440 this ends up going, I will blow my stack. We 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:55.160 already know that Agriculture Victoria has shut down these smaller 0:04:55.200 --> 0:05:00.480 suppliers and that does get me furious. Surf Coast eggs 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.719 have been taken off the shelves, and how's this letter 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.720 from West Eggs, who are a small family owned business. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:13.000 Eggs are their life. They're sent out this letter to 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.560 all their customers saying, look, please bear with us agriculturists. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.000 Victoria have shut us down. We can't have any eggs 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.200 leave our property. This is extremely distressing to us because 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.599 eggs are our income. We still have a business to run, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.400 a family to feed, staff to pay. This is what 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.880 gets me fired up about these things, because fine, the 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.880 massive farms, yes, test everyone kill a million birds if 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.760 you have to do what you need to do to 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:50.200 contain the thing. But these smaller suppliers, these family, little 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:55.120 farms now being shut down, it just looks like we're 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.599 we're doing the same that we did back in nineteen 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:02.359 ninety where it's like we I guess the question is 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.000 is this really about health or is it about obliterating 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.680 the little guys, because again, the little guys haven't been 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.760 implicated in this in order to help the big guys. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.719 I don't think they're talking about chicken run where the 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.479 chickens actually fly out and go there saying like any 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.720 other bird, because this I don't think this just infects chickens. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:25.680 Does it affect all bird? 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:25.920 Yeah? 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.520 Sure, so any other bird could pick it up in 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.520 a chicken farm and a chicken coop in a backyard 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.320 and then fly to chi. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.240 Far more likely picks it up at the chicken farm 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.600 brings it to your chickens. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.359 In your backyard. Like, how if you've got four. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.040 Chickens in your backyard that you've had for the last 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.400 two years, how are your chickens going to get bird 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.960 flu unless someone brings it from another place, most likely 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:48.360 a farm. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.839 You're going to say, China, where. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:52.680 Could well be? 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.000 Don't forget the guys. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.200 Humans at least you can control you can, well, you 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.120 can control their behavior if you're a fashionst dictorial state. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.120 But humans can't control their baby. So you can talk 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:04.760 with humans, You can reason with humans and say, all right, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.040 don't do this. Might be a good idea not to 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.640 do that. I, as you know, we're right on the 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.360 front line saying that COVID restrictions were excessive and wrong 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.120 and not based in science. All that has since been 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.080 proven true. But we can't really tell birds what to do. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.760 So surely there does have to be some kind of like, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.240 if you don't want it spreading everywhere, you do have 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:24.360 to have some kind of restriction. 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.720 But they've already got the restriction. In Victoria, if you 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.160 have chickens in your backyard, you are required now to 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.920 keep them either in a cage so they cannot wander, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:33.920 or in a shed. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.520 They've already put the restriction in. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.560 That cage has to be rated a four star. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.680 Energy right, it must have cooling, an insulation, and it 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.920 has to be draft proofed. Our the story we're talking 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.120 about last night in Victoria where they're imposing this on landlords. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.200 But still, what is it any business or any problem 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.160 of a person who's got chickens in the backyard. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.520 Oh you know, you might be the one that causes 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.280 the outbreak. It's got nothing to do with you. If 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.560 the chickens come in from somewhere else, you problem. 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.800 Oh well, I suppose, yes, that is true. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.760 But I'm just saying that I'm not particularly across Avian 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.560 veterinary science, whereas I am across human behavior, because I've 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.920 done it pretty much every bad thing that any human 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.720 being can do, plus all good ones. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.640 Hang on, what is should we can we go through 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.320 the list here alphabetically. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:30.239 You know, but I suppose, like, okay, I remember covering 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.120 the equine flu, right, and that was when I first 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.240 got to know Peter of Landers, and he did amazing 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.720 things to help the keep the horse racing industry going 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.440 while quarantining these other horses. And again this is I reckon, 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.560 this is where he learned his straps to keep the 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.840 NRL going when COVID came. Just saying, maybe you don't 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.840 want the entire like even with the eggs r us guys, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.000 I don't know if you want, you know, if this 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.320 could shut down the entire egg farming industry, is it 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.680 not worth having some quarantine? 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.200 I mean I don't actually can into a copyhouse kids. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.600 They've done in the bigger farms where it is required. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.960 I'm just saying, why crack down on the little guys, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.199 and why is this flogging Queensland now? Talking about backyard 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.240 chickens being. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:19.640 The chickens and your backyard, you're going to unleash it 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.199 on the rest of the world, and indeed in Victoria, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.720 I mean, I mean all the way from Victoria. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.720 I don't think chickens can fly that mate. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:28.880 Anyway to the UK. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.400 Now where last week, Faraj had a banana milkshake shoved 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:38.880 in his face. This week some dude has chucked chunks 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.599 of cemented him while he's in the middle of campaigning. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:56.880 Check it out. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:05.520 But in signature forage fashion, he soon took to Twitter 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.079 to let everyone know he was not cowed. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.839 I'm not a softy. You know you can say what 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.760 you've bullomen like to me. Do you start chucking smant 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.840 at me or stuck chucking stones at me? It's very, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:22.079 very different, and this is a willful attempt, second time 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.080 in a week. In a way, it's a wilful attempt 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.280 to stop me taking part in this general election and 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.800 that is just plain wrong at every level. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.680 The man's got a country to save and he's not 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.160 backing down. Here's one of the many reasons that he 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.880 does indeed have a country to save. As we know, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.640 immigration is out of control in the UK, as it 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:47.040 seems to be across the West, and this is one 0:10:47.040 --> 0:11:00.000 of many scenes unfolding on London streets all too regularly. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.160 It was terrified the boys had to be rescued by 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:08.479 the police of bobbles and eggs rained down on them. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.680 This enraged Muslim mob continued to hold a rally, saying 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.160 all manner of unsavory things, including the fact that since 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.480 they're not afraid of death, no one's ever going to 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.480 stand in their way, because to them death is the 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.520 beginning of life, and therefore they are indestructible and they 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.079 are here to assert their dominance. I'll tell you who's 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.120 having absolutely none of that. Should she get in Now 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.680 that mccron has called a snap election in France, here's 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.200 Le Penn talking to one of the many parties she's 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:48.120 had since having such an incredible win at the European 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.720 Parliament elections last weekend. Here's what she's promising if when 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.360 France goes to the polls next month, she's elected as president, 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:58.400 So that pen. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:08.400 S elbos de fronsell come dont unrison in soul for 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:16.160 garritur de cose kao avacuiology total give la mar de 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:27.640 conseil lepinas you know, only avecdiology. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.600 Lets you have the. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:37.599 Tradition the nationality experts le corseki adoptorology. Let me you 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:41.800 have that cod cad you the only tribunal opinion le 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:48.599 lois exists in Cifi. The exappl que ab moi president 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:57.240 say luis applica sof abian not dle mus get fer 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.599 me the pleasure do an expersave. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.800 There's association. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.920 Wouldn't you give your front teeth? Wouldn't you sever a 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.599 limb just to have one or two? God, maybe a 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.760 handful of leaders who are happy to talk like that, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:23.160 brave enough to talk like that on our national stage 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.520 here in Australia and simply say there are certain ideologies 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.559 that are uncompatible with ours and from now on we 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.280 are not having a bar of it. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.920 And of course there's been no appetite whatsoever to go after, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.760 certainly with the full force of the law that we 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.040 actually have in this country. Reach isn't whatever in light 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.480 of October seven. And you know what a great language 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.160 is the French. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.240 Like, oh my god, you serious like throwing up. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.920 Awful stand I know you hate I know you hate 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.120 the French, and I know you hate La. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.360 The French make Grete wine and Grete cheese and great food. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.520 Otherwise they're very free. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.080 Over there, and they've got a great But it's the reason, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.720 the reason you have people like people like lapin coming 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:18.280 to the fore. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.120 And of course Farage is doing so well, and I 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.840 Suspectable will do well with his Reform Party in the UK. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.600 You know, people going around throwing some meents at him, 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.000 and all it does is embolden him and make him 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:32.720 look better. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.440 It makes him look more. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.560 Popular, because if you've got to go after this, and 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.680 this is what you've been talking about, you the left 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.800 keeps doing themselves over by demonizing these people so hard 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.640 for things that are legitimate concerns amongst the population. The 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.720 people go, well, God, if these dickheads hate him so much, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.360 then I'm going to vote for him. And that's what 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.760 you saw broadly across the EU with the European elections, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.560 and over in Germany with the a FD party, which 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.200 is one of the right wing parties that did well 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.480 out of the EU election. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:08.840 They've actually had an uptick in the youth vote. The 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:14.280 a f D party in Germany. Leeds not make from 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.200 ros I. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:15.760 Think we should. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.960 You can't say that if you say I FD is 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:25.640 not seriously very hard Nazis. They're extremely far right party 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:32.720 and not not like compliment a right fine, yep, no, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.520 go for it, like acting more youth fantastic? 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.160 What you know about the f a f D that 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.200 make them raging Nazis, the. 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.880 A f D are an extremely, extremely, extremely unpleasant bunch 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:46.560 of people. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:46.440 But. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:56.040 Around some of those other much much darker historically. 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.280 Okay, let's for a minute then, except your premise, they're 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.960 a very nasty bunch of people. Why do you think 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.960 there has been a ten percent increase in the youth 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.160 vote for such a nasty bunch of people. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.440 Sorry, Lizzie, you okay, over, slowly, slowly die now. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.640 The reaction you have had across Europe is because no 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.239 one has taken any notice of legitimate concerns about immigration, 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.160 the cost of living, the standard of living, et cetera. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.240 That's why you have a rise in the vote for 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.200 these parties. It's why you get a ten percent rise 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.200 in the youth vote. Where across the world it's generally 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.680 acknowledged that young people quite greeny and left wing, and 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.960 you've had somewhat of a change in that because people 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.320 are seeing what's happening around them. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.960 No one's taken it seriously. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.640 I think there's a big difference between the sort of 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.080 values that these parties have and their their history, what 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:53.560 they are based in, how they were formed. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:58.520 Well, let's talk about them now. As the referring to history. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.880 Joe like, what want to talk about them now? 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:01.120 Now? 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.639 The party? The party? Now, I'll tell you about what 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.800 A former member says that now. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.439 God's waiting room. He's been a member of the party 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:14.880 for most of his life. 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.720 And he's like, what does it become? 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.200 You're not even going to take the work member. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.800 For you have said that the a f D Party 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:31.080 as a whole historically has been raging Nazi radical right. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.240 They have very very about the anti immigration to. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:41.640 Day that is obviously pushing against the radical leftists currently 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.040 in power because they've had enough of it, not because 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.080 they're Nazis, not because they radical. 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:47.680 White right wing. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.159 They need an air. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:52.159 Problem that has taken the. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.520 IFD are not like Donald Trump, They're not like Nigel Farage. 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.960 They are not like the other populist parties that have 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.480 sprung up more recently in other country. The A f 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.119 D are a nasty bunch of really bad people. 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:10.720 Illustration of what you are talking about modern day illustrating, not. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:11.800 Modern day illustration. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.320 People can go and look into it if they want, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.200 but I'm just saying, for the sake of this show 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.359 and for the sake of your fine reputations, I wouldn't 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.800 be praising a f D as a bunch of freedom 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.200 fighters and a bunch of wonderful I don't think neither 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:25.800 of them did that. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.680 But even if you accept the premise as I said before, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.600 that there are a nasty bunch of people, there's a 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.800 reason that you would have a rise in that vote, 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.040 and it's because no one takes. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.240 And it is because of the left that. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.320 People get pushed to that level, because no one else 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:42.400 takes them seriously. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.920 Yeah, no, absolutely, there are a reason why people go 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.840 to Well, I'm not young, so the left. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.720 My people, My people are moderate centrists who are to 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.160 the right of the left spectrum, not the same people 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.160 by the sort of people who are driving the youth 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.600 into the arm of AfD, and certainly not the people 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.480 who are in AfD themselves. But look, we all know 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:06.399 that young people do stupid things. We all know that 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:07.720 people generally, if they feel. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:08.919 So they're only voting for the. 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:14.359 People feel different, disenfranchised by the government they've got, they 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.760 are going to seek out other alternatives, and particularly if 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.400 you're young, you'll go to the alternative that speaks most 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.240 directly to you, that seems to have the simplest Ideas 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.119 I was a student socialist when I was. When I 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.480 was a teenager and a UNI student, that was idiotic. 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.280 That was young, That was dumbest because I didn't know 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.680 any better. I got older and I learned young people 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.760 do stupid things. They have often very naive and simplistic 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.000 political ideologies and naive and simplistic politics. And then hopefully 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:41.560 you grow older and you grow out of it and 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.239 you become more sensible. As Winston Churchill said, if you're 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.879 not a socialist at eighteen, you have no heart. If 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:48.800 you're still a socialist at fifty, you have no head. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:53.440 Well, I'm heartless, hardcaring, heartless individual. I've got one theory 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.639 actually as to why the AfD vote may have surged 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.520 among you. Take a look at one of the MPs 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.719 that was elected in the EU elections. Have we got 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.080 the photograph here? We may or may not have the 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:06.159 photo doesn't look like. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.440 Yeah, there we go. If you're a young man in Germany, 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:10.480 as if. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.959 You would not vote for her, I reckon, that's why 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:14.760 the a FD vote has gone up. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.280 She's single handedly done the good. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:18.080 What their position is on the. 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.280 S S, I'll come on. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:27.280 Joe the lot, Joe, Joe, Joe, guys, Joe, I know 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.440 where you're going with this. They expelled the who made 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.480 the comments, who made whether there were certain members of 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.000 the s S who were not criminals. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.640 They expelled him. What do you want them to do? Say, oh, yeah, 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.160 we love you spell question. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.040 The question is why I was there in the first place. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.119 The question is there are idiots in the Labor Party 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:46.480 as well? 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:51.800 That party Glass Houses should. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.440 Not one in the Labor Party who's an apologist for 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:55.160 the SS. 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:56.679 Well, there are people in the Labor Party who are 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.159 apologists for the slaughter of Jews? Does that mean the 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.080 entire Labor Party he believes in the slaughter. 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.960 Of Slightly different being, I don't think just for the 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:05.760 slaughter of I. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.560 Think there are They have accused Israel of war crimes 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:13.000 and genocide. Their names are head Edge, used it and 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.960 an r Le just to name two. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.719 I think that's slightly I think that is slightly different. 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.360 I think you will defend them regardless. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.560 I think that's lamenting. 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.320 But lamenting the deaths of Palestinians is not the same 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:29.280 as saying, hey, not everyone in the SS was a 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:30.400 bad We're not talking. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.200 About lamenting the deaths everyone ought to be lamenting the 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:37.159 deaths we're talking about accusing Israel for simply trying to 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.080 get their hostages back doing what they must, while her 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.560 Muss uses their own people as human shields. Israel could 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.639 have done this without killing anybody, but no, they've been 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.439