1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: On scaring Lands Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Paney Show. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight is Australia a welfare state. The data 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: shows more than half of the population is dependent on 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: government payments for their main source of income. The panel 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: will be here to discuss that. The smartest man in 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: any room, Douglas Murray, will join me before the first 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: ad break, and. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: He has illegal immigration and the un on his mind. 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that. Me Horowitz will have 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: the latest from the US. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Including details about Hillary Clinton's psycho emotional problems, and later 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: in the hour, Kins's Schofield we'll tell us why Netflix 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: wants to part ways with Harry and Meghan and LEFTI 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: is Losing It features Trump, deranged Hollywood stars including Alec Baldwin. 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: Seems to me, seems to me, You send me money. 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: But first. 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 3: A report from the Center for Independent Studies has found 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: that more than half of Australian voters are dependent on 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: government payments for their main source of income. This is 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: through public sector wages, welfare benefits or subsidies. The largest 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: part being the ndis the National Disability insurance scheme currently 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: accounts for around fifty two billion CIS. Senior fellow Robert 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: Carling said a culture of dependency and entitlement has taken 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: route in the population and political behavior has become only 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: too willing to accommodate and encourage it in a feedback loop. 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: And the Australian Industry Group is also warning that the 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: jobs data we're seeing is hiding the fact that we're 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: now increasingly dependent on the government to keep the economy afloat. 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: In a media. 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: Release, they said since the pandemic, the labor market has 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: become increasingly driven by to groups the public sector and 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: the non market private industries of health, education and public administration. 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: These industries have seen employment surge by seventeen and forty 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 3: three percent respectively since twenty nineteen. By contrast, the private 36 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: sector has added only nine percent more jobs. Joining me 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: more is for more on this is the panel former 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and founder of Adoni 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: Media Lisa Goddard. Michael, I'll start with you, none of 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: this is desirable. 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: Or indeed sustainable. 42 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: No, it's not sustainable. It's at Robney moment. 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: If you remember back to the campaign where he was 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: involved and warned that it was very hard for him 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: in an election when I think fifty one percent of 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: the American public were relying on some form of benefit. 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: This is unsustainable. This is the point. 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: I mean, debt in Australia at gros deets heading to 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: one point two trillion. It was nine hundred billion when 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: Albanzi came to office, so it's increasing three hundred billion 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: dollars during his two terms. 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: Is completely unsustainable. 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: As the AI Group says, employment is low, unemployment is 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: low only because we're massively increasing jobs in the public sector. 55 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: That's not sustainable. These payments by the government are not sustainable. 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: We have a debt time bomb in this country. But 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: as they do in lots of Western countries, with the 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: demand for public expenditure is greater than the capacity of 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: the government delivered. And it means one thing reader, in Australia, 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: they're going to be tax risers in the next few years. 61 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: But Lisa, what politician is really going to seriously tackle 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: this issue when half the country, half the voters, is 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: dependent on tax pay funds for their main source of income. 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Rudy, you're exactly right. You've got so many males 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: in this country now relying on the government for the 66 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 5: money to feed themselves. So's that actually engineered this if 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: you think about it. We all talk about branch stacking 68 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 5: when it comes to political parties. What the Labor government 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: has managed to do here is pretty much engineer. You're 70 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: an electorate voting branch stacking system where they've got the 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: votes there. People are so reliant on the government now 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: they're not going to turn the back on them because 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: it's the old adage you don't bite the hand that 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: feeds you. So when it comes to election time, they 75 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 5: showing themselves up. 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Now, Parliament is back in session this week and Labor 77 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: is pumping out more cringeworthy social media content. Let's have 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: a look at the PM strolling into Parliament like he's 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: on some sort of a catwalk. Is he instant influencer 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: these days? I do love the music that goes with that. 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 3: And here is the arrest of them. 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: We're in good hands. Well, Lisa, I'll start with you. 83 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Handsome boy has really taken to the Monika. 84 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: That video of him strolling in looking very sharp in 85 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: his suit. 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: What are they thinking? I'm not so sure. 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: When there's so much criticism about the fact that Albanezy 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: can't get a meeting with Trump. But if you're his 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: media managery, social media manager, you really want him out there. 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: In the slow mow motion that you've got in this video. 91 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: He's already acting slow enough according to most people. I 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 5: think we saw it through the campaign leading into the election, 93 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: and the young people they loved what they were doing 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: on social media. But we watch that and it's absolute 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: cringe factor. You're right, and I just don't think that 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: the average OSSI is going to look at that and think, 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: you know what, that's leadership there. 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: It's not working. 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: I don't think. 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: Well, let's move on to more significant issues. Another big 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: win for the Trump administration. The alban Easy government is 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: lifting biosecurity restrictions on American beef imports and an attempt 103 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: to convince Donald Trump to lower its to lower US 104 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: tariffs on Australian products. Michael, the President has even hasn't 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: even met with Anthony alban Easy, and he's already getting 106 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: his way. We're not going into this negotiation form a 107 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: position of strength, are we. 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: No, We've got that embarrassing ambassador Kevin Rudd running around 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: in Washington trying to make himself. 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Busy him look good. 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: You know, Trump has just announced the most amazing deal 112 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: with Japan, extraordinary and really positive for the United States 113 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: of America. I mean, they get massive benefits out of 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: that deal. The Japanese have worked very closely with the 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: Trump administration. In contrast, we've got this lame back ambassador 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: who's a well known critic of Donald Trump personally. We've 117 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 4: got a Prime minister who's a critic of Donald Trump personally. 118 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: Trump and the Americans know all this stuff, which is 119 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: why Australia don't see me doing very well in our negotiations. Okay, 120 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: so we've let American beef back here. Technically it wasn't banned, 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: but there have been no imports because of these biosecurity 122 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: issues with Mexico and Canada. But I think the bigger 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 4: point is Albanese he cannot seem to see it within 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 4: himself to. 125 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Go and meet Trump. 126 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: Now, what he's going to do is meet him with 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 4: the sidelines of some of these conferences because he can't 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: possibly go to the White House. Who knows what would 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: happen in a meeting in the oval off. So no, 130 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: he's he's playing catch up. Australia is falling behind the 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: other it's competitive countries in relation to trade, and you 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: know the signs are not good, reader. 133 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: No, and Michael mentioned the deal with Japan. Lisa. 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: This ban lifting that we've announced comes a day after 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: that deal. It was a significant deal, massive. Japan's going 136 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: to be investing five hundred and fifty billion into the 137 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: US economy. They're going to lift import restrictions in exchange 138 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: for a reduction in US tariffs on Japanese imports. That's 139 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: going to drop from twenty five percent to fifteen percent, Lisa, 140 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: the number of countries doing deals with the US continues 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: to grow. Are we at risk of being left behind? 142 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 6: Well, you're right. 143 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: So Japan manages to get a meeting inside the White 144 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: House and do the deal on the tariffs. The Philippines 145 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 5: have also done the same thing. And I note that Trump, 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: after meeting with the Philippine president at the Oval Office, 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: then said that not only have they done this deal 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: on tariff's, but that he was happily looking forward to 149 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: working with the militarily as well. So if that isn't 150 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: sending a strong signal to the Australian government, Hey, we've 151 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: told you raise your defense spending. 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 7: That has to be a. 153 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: Critical point in meeting with Trump and getting this over 154 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: the line. And now today forgive me for being a 155 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: bit cynical here, but if I'm right, the review into 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 5: the US beef has been what's sitting on the shelves 157 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: for ten years, and now today they suddenly decided to 158 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: come out and say, well, this is a decision we're making. 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: You can't tell me that isn't playing into trying to 160 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: get some sort of deal with with Trump. Because if 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: I'm right, when we've got seven days a week tomorrow 162 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 5: until the deadline, the first of August deadline, so the 163 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: clock is chicking and it's ticking louder every minute when 164 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 5: it comes to trying to get this tariff situation under 165 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: control with the US. 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: Now, before you two go, I've got to get your 167 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: take on the net zero debate. There's a growing coalition 168 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: rising against net zero. West Australia, Queensland, South Australia and 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: n T divisions of the Liberal Party are set to 170 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: formally oppose the policy. 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: The National Party is likely to follow suit. 172 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: Michael Susan Lee needs to make some important policy decisions here. 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: We're seeing her posting embarrassing content on X and picks 174 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: with Julie Bishop on Instagram. Where is the policy where 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: we're going to find out where the Coalition stands on 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: this most crucial issue. 177 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: Well, I'm in favor of the Coalition releasing major policies 178 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: well before an election, not dropping them during the campaign, 179 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: because by then elections are usually lost. Question is whether 180 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: the Coalition wants to have a fight on energy policy 181 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: to environmental policy, which is essentially a Labor Party brand equity. 182 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: It's better that the Coalition fight on tags and economy 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: and work towards a way of providing massive tax cut 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: to the elector there's a central thesis for its election 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 4: campaign in twenty twenty eight and the big question is 186 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: how do you fund that? That should be the central 187 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: challenge for the Coalition I think going forward. Obviously, rural 188 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 4: people are cheesed off, to say the least, because all 189 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: these massive wind housing being built on rural land and 190 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: they've got an absolutely fair point offshore wind. 191 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: It seems to be collapsing in Australia. 192 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: It's more than that, Michael, it's at a cost of 193 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: living crisis. 194 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: Energy is central to that. 195 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: It impacts every household, every business, and as soon as 196 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: the Coalition embraced this madness, they ended up losing two 197 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: elections in fairly comprehensive fashion. 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: I would suggest the Australian wanting to. 199 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: Anyone knew the energy prices of the last election were 200 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: very high and leave us till one easily. 201 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that's quite right. 202 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the coalition was signed up to net zero. 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: The Coalition didn't go into that election prioritizing cost and 204 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: reliability that were signed up to the same madness. So 205 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: if you don't give the Australian people a choice, they're 206 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: going to stick with at least the side that believes 207 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: in this craziness. Michael Croigalisa god Art, we've run out 208 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: of time. Thank you so much for your input tonight. 209 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: Joining me now is the author of groundbreaking works, international 210 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: best sellers, including The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness 211 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: of Crowds, The War on the West, and his latest 212 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: on Democracies and death cults. 213 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray. 214 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: Let's start in the UK where Keir Starmer is talking tough. 215 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: He is going to smash the gangs, He's going to 216 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: stop the illegal immigration crisis. We've heard this talk from 217 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: the PM before. How serious is this policy and how 218 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: likely is it to succeed. 219 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's very unlikely to succeed. 220 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 8: At the moment, he seems to be trumpeting a deal 221 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 8: he's done with French President Emanuel Mancroft for a so 222 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 8: called one in, one out policy. It's not clear to 223 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 8: me or to the British public. I think, why if 224 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 8: hundreds of people are managing to pour in every day 225 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 8: to the UK, you should trumpet a sort of occasionally 226 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 8: you'll get one person back out policy. But the main 227 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 8: thing is this the obsession that the government has with 228 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 8: smashing the gangs. 229 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: It's very typical politicking this. 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 8: It suggests that the problem of illegal migration is simply 231 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 8: that of the people smuggling gangs. 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: And that's very useful for left. 233 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 8: Wing government like Labor, because it presents it as if 234 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 8: as if there's no harm done by the illegal migrant 235 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 8: It is merely the criminal gangs. 236 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: Who bring them into the country who are. 237 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 8: The problem, As if these are like press gangs of 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 8: the Royal Navy in the eighteenth century, sort of rushing 239 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 8: around the streets, gathering migrants from the north of France 240 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 8: and forcing them onto boats to begin a. 241 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: New life in the UK. That isn't the case. So 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: people smuggling gangs. 243 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 8: Are part of the problem, but they're not themselves the problem. 244 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 8: They're just one part of it. The problem is is 245 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 8: that the government wants to put no onus on the 246 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 8: people who knowingly are illegally entering the UK, and that's 247 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 8: because they want to always cling to this idea that 248 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 8: the illegal migrant is always an asylum seeker, somebody with 249 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 8: a legitimate claim to be breaking into the country, and 250 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 8: that simply isn't the case. It's just politicking on their 251 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 8: part and. 252 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: A desire to never blame the people. 253 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 8: Who are actually the ones coming into the country breaking 254 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 8: the law. 255 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: Well, yes, and we're saying more and more sugar put 256 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: on the table. I don't know how you hope to 257 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: stop illegal immigration when you're providing ever greater incentives Douglas, 258 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: including giving landlords in the UK in parts of England 259 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: more favorable terms, including five year full rent agreements if 260 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: they provide housing to asylum seekers. So again that just 261 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: shows you where the policies and the retoric are. 262 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Not matching up. 263 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: And we're seeing some protests and counter protests that clashes happening, 264 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: including outside a full star hotel in East London where 265 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: illegal immigrants will be housed. Here is a Greens counselor 266 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 3: and a protest to having a debate that got rather heated. 267 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 9: There are no safe legal roots for refugees to come 268 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 9: to this country. This is the only way that can 269 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 9: come here. 270 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 6: It's on a boat. 271 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 9: We have a lot of stakes, a lot of stakes 272 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 9: in the conflicts on the climate crisis that causes people 273 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 9: to be refugees and have to come to another country. 274 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 9: They're not choosing to leave their country, their home, their children, 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 9: their parents, children. 276 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: Excuse me, Douglas. The anger is palpable. Their people are 277 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: fed up. They've had years of this from the Tories, 278 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: the supposed Conservatives that govern like labor, and now we've 279 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: got a labor government who seemed to be governing like 280 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: the Greens. 281 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 8: Yes, they're simply forget always who the people are that 282 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 8: they're meant to represent. A member of Parliament in Britain 283 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 8: is not meant to represent the people of the world. 284 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 8: They're meant to represent the people of their constituency and 285 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 8: by extension, the. 286 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: People of the United Kingdom. 287 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 8: They're not meant to be the defense team for everybody 288 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: entering the country illegally. It's just the most preposterous abandonment 289 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 8: of their roles and of their duties. 290 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: It's really quite straightforward. Is the UK is not a 291 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: huge country. 292 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 8: It cannot take in all of the poor and dispossessed 293 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 8: of the world. It couldn't even take in all of 294 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 8: the people in the world who really do have legitimate 295 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 8: asylum claims. It couldn't do it. It couldn't take in all 296 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: of the people who would like to come with legitimate claims. 297 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 8: There's just no way the country would be overrun. But 298 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 8: another left left wing MP in the UK said last 299 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 8: week that the UK should continue this policy of allowing 300 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 8: illegals into the country until it is overwhelmed, until the 301 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 8: point at which the country is overwhelmed, and only then 302 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 8: would the country need to stop. That is, as I say, 303 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 8: that is an absolute abandonment of their duty. It is 304 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: MPs who are literally willing to crash the country with 305 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 8: a policy of allowing. 306 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: In endless numbers of people. 307 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 8: And as I say, the numbers are literally the country 308 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 8: could not take in all of the people who would 309 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 8: like to come with legitimate claims, and it certainly can't 310 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 8: take in all of the people in the world who 311 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 8: would like to come, who also don't have legitimate claims, 312 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 8: who are the vast majority of the people currently arriving. 313 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: Now. 314 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Labor are hoping to hold on to power by lowering 315 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: the voting age. It's estimated they could secure half a 316 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: million more votes at the next election if sixteen and 317 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: seventeen year olds are allowed to vote. What do you 318 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: make of this plan, Douglas? Some argue the voting age 319 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: should be lifted, But should a sixteen year old seventeen 320 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: year old who can't even buy cigarettes, they can't buy alcohol, 321 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: they can't get married, should they be able to vote? 322 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 10: No? 323 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 8: Absolutely not. It's pure as Once again, it's pure politic. 324 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 8: The Labor Party is doing this for two reasons. One 325 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 8: is that they think the optics of it will make 326 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 8: them more attractive to younger voters and secondly, be assumed 327 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 8: that younger voters are going to be in their favor. 328 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: That's not necessarily the case. 329 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 8: It's a very interesting data showing, for instance, that younger 330 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 8: voters dispurportedly by population, are likely to vote for reform 331 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 8: UK Nigel parages party. That would be quite a funny 332 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 8: in the tale when did if that were to happen. 333 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, reach obviously the case that. 334 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 8: If you can't, you know, you're not deemed to be 335 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 8: of an age to buy cigarettes, to buy alcohol, to 336 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 8: be able to marry. 337 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Why should you have the vote? By the way, it's 338 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: very interesting. 339 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 8: In the past week, at least two labor MPs I know, 340 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 8: including people in the government, didn't seem to realize when 341 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 8: interviewed on air, that you're not allowed to marry in 342 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 8: the UK at sixteen, So they don't even know the 343 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 8: laws as they exist, even as they tried to introduce new. 344 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: Laws like this. 345 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: Now let's go to the US and President Donald Trump 346 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be pulling the US out 347 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: of UNESCO, that's the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. 348 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: This decision comes. 349 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: After a ninety day review and Douglas the organization was 350 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: deemed to be anti American, anti Israel, and PRODI, three 351 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: things that the Trump. 352 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: Administration does not like. 353 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: And it's not unprecedented. President Reagan also withdrew the US 354 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: from UNESCO. 355 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: What do you think of this decision? 356 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 8: Yes, I mean the Trump administration doesn't like anti American 357 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 8: international bodies. And that's something which is you would have 358 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 8: thought normally would be quite straightforward, quite obvious, not controversial. 359 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 8: But there are so many people, sadly, who seem to 360 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 8: think that any organization with un in the title must 361 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 8: be angels effectively. 362 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: And that that isn't the case. And there's this. 363 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 8: Fundamental misapprehension at the root of a lot of people's worldview, 364 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 8: which is that because something is an arm of the 365 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: United Nations, it must be doing the Lord's work. And 366 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 8: yet the problem with United Nations now and with its 367 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 8: entities is what it's often been in the case, as 368 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 8: it was in President Reagan's day, that the tilt of 369 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 8: the organization tilts against America, against the Western democracies, because 370 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 8: of the predominance of unfree, undemocratic, and tyrannical countries within 371 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 8: the organization. 372 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't mind. 373 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 8: I want to pretend that the United Nations is the 374 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 8: world's parliament if they want to imagine. 375 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: That, that's one thing. But to imagine, as a result 376 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: that it is what it says. 377 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 8: It is and that its entities are what they claim 378 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 8: to be is just a grotesque category. 379 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Eerr in Esco. 380 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 8: Like so many organizations UNDRA, you and Human Rights Council. 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 8: These are not bodies that represent or further the interests 382 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 8: of the American taxpayer, the American voter, and often. 383 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: Work directly against them. So why exactly. 384 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 8: Should the American taxpayer be funding them? 385 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: It's a very good question. 386 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: It's one I'd be posing to our government right here 387 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 3: in Australia. 388 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: Israel and Syria. 389 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: We know they're resuming dialogue on security matters in the 390 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: wake of deadly sectarian clashes. We're seeing just Douglas horrific 391 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: acts of brutality footage that I can't play. The Druis 392 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: population being targeted, and this footage is simply too graphic, 393 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: too sickening to play. 394 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: What can be done. 395 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 3: To help this community, Douglas and other religious minorities in Syria? 396 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 8: You know, it's absolutely appalling what's been going on in 397 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 8: recent plays in Syria. Noticeable as always the people who've 398 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 8: been completely silent on the matter, who obsessed with anything 399 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 8: that Israel does in region and are totally unbothered when 400 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 8: a jihadist or former Jihardist, if you're take him to 401 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 8: his word, are like the new leader of Syria overseas 402 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 8: a country in which is kind of ethnic strife is 403 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 8: routine and commonplace. 404 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: The Drews are a very small. 405 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 8: Minority in the region, crossing in the roughly in Lebanon, 406 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 8: Israel Syria, and are very beliegued and massacres like that 407 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 8: in recent days. The only country that has done anything 408 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 8: to actually intervene and try to stop is the government 409 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 8: of Israel, who is doing so partly the behest of 410 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 8: own Drew's population. 411 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: The Drews population in Israel. 412 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 8: Include remarkable people, include remarkable heroes serving the army and. 413 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: So on. 414 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 8: But Israel decided to actually step in and try to 415 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 8: prevent some of this ethnic cleansing of the Drus of Syria. 416 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 8: The rest of the world is just sort of sitting by, 417 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 8: either not noticing or just talking about it. And it's 418 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 8: very interesting that, isn't it That once again Israel in 419 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 8: the region alone acts against the threat to a minority 420 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 8: and gets no credit for it, no praise to actual fact. 421 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 8: As we saw in an interview this week with a 422 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 8: former head of the six intelligence services in the US 423 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 8: was interviewed by I think Christian amanpuron CNN, don't even 424 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 8: understand the situation in the region, and don't even believe 425 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 8: that Israel acting and the interests of the Drus minority, 426 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 8: and also don't seem to understand who the Drews minority are. 427 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: It's a really shocking lack of. 428 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 8: Comprehension at very high levels, and of course that means 429 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 8: that there's also a shocking lack of act. 430 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: You're right about that. 431 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: Let's actually just have a quick look at that interview 432 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: refer to, and this is supposed to be an expert 433 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: opining about Israel's motivations in Syria. 434 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 11: I don't actually believe the Israeli line that they are 435 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 11: intervening in southern Syria in order to support the Drews, 436 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 11: as if they have concerns about the Drews. 437 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: The Drews are Arabs and Muslims. 438 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 11: They are a part of the network of ethnic groups 439 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 11: and religious groups inside Syria. What Israel is looking for, 440 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 11: I think is a fragmented Syria, one which is we 441 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 11: can divide it. 442 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: The former head of MI six and he doesn't know 443 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: basic information. 444 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: Douglas, like the Drews are not Muslims. 445 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really shocking, I have to say, really shocking. 446 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 8: There's a sort of presumption people have that figures are 447 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 8: like this, you know, at least know what they're talking about. 448 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 8: And yes, I mean he didn't. The Jruis, among other things, 449 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 8: are not Muslims by any means. And and it's it's 450 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 8: just and that lack of knowledge, I suppose leads to 451 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 8: the follow on thing. He believes that that the Israelis, 452 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 8: who will include Drews in their own army, would not 453 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 8: be acting legitimately in defense of the Jewish, the Drew's minority. 454 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: As for the idea that Israel wants. 455 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 8: A fracture of Syria, I mean, this is this is 456 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 8: just pure projection or something like that by the former 457 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 8: head of They don't Israel would like to live. I 458 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 8: assume by beside a peaceful Syria that was well governed, 459 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 8: that had a peace accords with Israel, part of the 460 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 8: Abraham Accords, and so are normalization they do? What a 461 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 8: endless war zone next door to them? Who would we 462 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 8: We've seen what that means in recent years. We've seen 463 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 8: what it means foreign proxies in Syria firing. 464 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Into Israel and so on. 465 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 8: Of course, No, I mean there's just you know, I've 466 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 8: said to you often Rita. You know there's this feeding 467 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 8: in recent years that the adults have left the room, 468 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 8: and that's still true. It is also the case many 469 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 8: of the people who are meant to be adults who 470 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 8: are still. 471 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: In the room turn out not to be fit for purpose. 472 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight. 473 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure. 474 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: Still to come. 475 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing It plus the latest from the US, including 476 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: details about Hillary Clinton's psycho emotional problems. 477 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: Mi Horowitz has the details. 478 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: Welcome back, and it's time for a Lefties Losing It 479 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: and Hollywood is struggling. 480 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 2: To deal with reality. 481 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: The widows, with their wolfed moral compass, are still pining 482 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: for Kamala. Here is Jeff Daniel's star of Dumb and 483 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: Dumber being the dumbest. 484 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 12: I still think about Kamala and how I think she 485 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 12: would have been a good choice. I don't care what 486 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 12: they say, because she would have done what Lincoln did. 487 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 12: Liz Cheney would have been Secretary of State. Tea Yeah, 488 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 12: Teama rivals. Doris Kerns a good one, wrote the book 489 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 12: about it. Less what Lincoln did surrounded himself with the 490 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 12: people who would disagree with him, not the people who would, 491 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 12: you know, take a knee and go Yeah, more tariffs, sir, more, 492 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 12: it's the madness of King George and if and just 493 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 12: the deterioration of the Republican Party. I mean, look, I'm 494 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 12: just an actor. What do I know? 495 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: Not much, Jeff, you don't know much. 496 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 3: And did you say the sympathet ig nods from MSNBC 497 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: anchor Nicole Wallace's Daniel spewed a bunch of nonsense. And 498 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: guess what, it gets crazy out because it seems to 499 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: think the radical left taking over the country is what 500 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: Jesus would want. 501 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 12: The new America that is diverse and treats everyone with 502 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 12: equality and respect and dignity, you know, kind of like 503 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 12: Jesus did. 504 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: Yep, matter than a cut snake. 505 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 3: And yes, Nicole is still nodding along like a bobblehead. 506 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: Let's check on another Trump deranged actor, Alec Baldwin. 507 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: I wonder how he's coping with life these days. 508 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 12: Seemed to me, seemed to me, seems to me, seemed 509 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 12: to me, seemed to me, seem to. 510 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Me, Mummy, seem to me. He seemed to me, Mommy think. 511 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 512 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 10: Now. 513 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Among the many startling revelations of nefarious activity is revealed 514 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: by the release of freshly declassified documents by the Director 515 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: of National Intelligence. 516 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: Is this little jem? 517 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: Turns out the Russians knew that there was something seriously 518 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: wrong with Hillary Clinton, and that's why they preferred her 519 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: to win, not Trump, and the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service 520 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: did not release the information that alleged Clinton was suffering 521 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: from intensified psycho emotional problems, including uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, 522 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: and cheerfulness. 523 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: If only there was a sign. 524 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: Did you talk about mass presidential possibilities of Senator Warren? 525 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 2: Now, having said all this, why aren't I fifty points ahead? 526 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 11: You might ask? 527 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: And apparently Hillary was on heavy tranquilizers too, if only 528 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: there was any evidence of that, perhaps something like what 529 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: we're looking at right now. Now remember this miscreant throwing 530 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: rocks of the vehicles of federal offices as well. There 531 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: is a happy development in this story. 532 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: You're an arrest for assaulting fetal agents. 533 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: Joining me now is documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. 534 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: Army Alpedio Rayana. I think I've pronounced his right name right. 535 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: He fled to Mexico in June after allegedly injuring a 536 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: federal officer and damaging vehicles and he was arrested at 537 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: the US Mexico border earlier today. 538 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, frankly, I wish he stayed in Mexico, but a 539 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 7: second best is having him rode in jail, despite the 540 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 7: fact that the costs that's probably thirty thousand dollars a 541 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: year to incarcerate this animal. Look with as you know, 542 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 7: I was at the AA riots. I covered the Elia riots, 543 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 7: and more importantly, we also have the media covered these riots. 544 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 7: Right He's are a peaceful demonstration. They simply want due process. Bologney, Okay, 545 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: I was there. I asked the question. Not a single 546 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: person there would condemn the violence that went on, why 547 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 7: being they support it. The violence is not a bug, 548 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: it's a feature. Rita. We have to see that this 549 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 7: guy is a hero to the left because the left 550 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 7: has always and continue to lionize violence. Lewis Mangionesi more 551 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 7: recent example of that, and Rita, I also want to 552 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 7: say that I was I was looking prior coming on 553 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 7: and seeing who covered his arrest. Let me tell you see, 554 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 7: An End didn't cover it, MSNBC didn't cover it. The 555 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 7: New York Times did ut covers arrest. Why because it 556 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: highlights the fact that there were violent people at these 557 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 7: quote unquote protests and they didn't want to highlight that 558 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: because they were trying to sweep that all under the rug. 559 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 7: I'm glads in jail. I hope you wrought there for years. Now. 560 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: More good news than New York Post reports. The Trump 561 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: administration has won unprecedented concessions from Columbia University in a 562 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: sweeping settlement with the Ivy League. University paying more than 563 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty million and also pledging to reverse 564 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: racially discriminatory practice. Columbia is also pledging to resolve civil 565 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: rights violations against Jewish students. We've seen all the scenes 566 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: of violence on university campuses, including at Columbia. 567 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: Army. 568 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: This is huge, two hundred and twenty million dollars settlement. 569 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: It's going to send a strong message. 570 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 13: Yeah. 571 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 7: Look, it's not nothing, that's for sure. Columb University has 572 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 7: a nearly fifteen billion dollar endowment, which is larger than 573 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 7: in one hundred and twenty countries foreign currency reserves. Will 574 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 7: it break them no? We will it make them think 575 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 7: twice before they allow Jews to be harassed on campus. Yeah, 576 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 7: I think it will. Look these people want the Jewish 577 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 7: Studies department to be part of the history department. That's 578 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 7: their goal. Let's make no mistake about it. And what 579 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 7: will change their behavior? Reader, it's money, Okay, That's what 580 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 7: the world goes round. And that's what makes these universities 581 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 7: and their fat cat administrators roll in the money and 582 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 7: allow them to hire all the DA people DEI people 583 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 7: that they have this money. Does the money does change behavior? 584 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 7: Look Columbia University, their donations are down thirty percent over 585 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 7: the last two years. And by the way, if a 586 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 7: single Jewish donor gives any of these universities acting the 587 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: way they are a single dollar, they should be ashamed 588 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 7: of themselves. Look, I think it will have an effect. 589 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 7: They're when sweeping changes at the Trump administration forced them 590 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 7: to do, not just the money they had to force 591 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 7: the change. They're hiring practices, the way they discipline people. 592 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 7: Will it stick. I don't know. Time will tell, but 593 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 7: I'll tell you this, it's a massive win for the president. 594 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 7: I think it's a massive win for decorum on university 595 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 7: campuses across the country. 596 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: Sticking with that, more huge news, the Director of National 597 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: Intelligence Tulsea Gabbard has referred Barack Obama to the FBI 598 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: and DOJ for prosecution any of this. 599 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 10: New information implicates former President Obama in criminal behavior. We 600 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 10: have referred and will continue to refer all of these 601 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 10: documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to 602 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 10: investigate the criminal implications of. 603 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: This For even the evidence of Obama. 604 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 10: Correct The evidence that we have found and that we 605 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 10: have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing 606 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 10: of this intelligence assessment. Are multiple pieces of evidence and 607 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 10: intelligence that confirm that fact. 608 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: Ami am I overcooking things that she's referring it. She says, 609 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: the evidence is clear. Are we going to see a 610 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: former president? We've seen it already, I guess with Donald Trump. 611 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: But are we going to see a former president under investigation, 612 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: facing charges and proving that no one is above the law. 613 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 7: Look, we are two things gonna be true at once. Right, 614 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 7: There's no question that the Obama administration was looking for 615 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 7: a rationale to tie Trump with the Russians, obviously spectacularly 616 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 7: failed at that. And there's no question that they had 617 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 7: illegal PHISO wards that were tapping people illegally. There's no 618 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 7: question that they use The fake Steele dossier is the 619 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 7: basis for this behavior. Having said that not a fan 620 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 7: of this. I got to be honest. Look, it comes across, 621 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 7: first of all, is petulant. So these things tend to 622 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 7: boomerang around to back to you. I mean, just at 623 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 7: the Democrats. Democrats were trying to file charges, specious trust 624 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 7: charges against against Trump, and now it's now we're doing 625 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 7: it to them. So I don't think this is this 626 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 7: is helpful for our public, to be totally honest and 627 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 7: whether or not you've been facing charges. Look, Trump, the 628 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 7: United States Supreme Court decision last year gave wide ranging 629 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 7: immunity to the president to president, not just President Trump, 630 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 7: but all presidents. So no, I actually don't think any 631 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 7: charges will be filed. I don't think you will be prosecuted. 632 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 7: A lot of that's because of the Supreme Court decision 633 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 7: of Trump the United States. 634 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: I don't think presidential immunity extends to manufacturing a plot 635 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: to undermine the term of your successor, because that's precisely 636 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 3: what happened. You said they failed at it. I'd argue 637 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: that were very successful. They were talking about Russian collusion 638 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: for three four years. It completely undermined Donald Trump's first term. 639 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 3: And there's a great many Americans to this day, many 640 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: Democrats who believe Russia interfered with US elections, that they 641 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: hacked the elections. 642 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: That's what we were. 643 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 3: Told, and it was entirely manufactured the evidence they had 644 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: said otherwise. And in that short period between Trump winning 645 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: and his inauguration, they cooked up this plot army. 646 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, how can that. 647 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: Go without consequences? How can this bit uncovered exposed? It's 648 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: good to have transparency, but surely the next step is 649 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: people need to pay a price for this. 650 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 651 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 7: Look, I say it fell because A Trump won the election, 652 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 7: and b it's been exposed as a hoax. Right, Russi 653 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 7: Russi Russia was a hoax. No, we should allow us 654 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 7: to go unpunished, and there are a lot of people 655 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 7: who I think should and will be punished for it. 656 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 7: I'm just saying that, from what I read and understand, Trump, 657 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 7: the US gives wide ranging community and this may in 658 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 7: fact fall within that as well. 659 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: See I disagree there, but we'll move on. We'll discuss 660 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: this more, I'm sure in the coming ways weeks. 661 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm interested in your reasoning for this data. 662 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: We're seeing a mass exodus from states like California, close 663 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: to seven hundred thousand people have left California since twenty 664 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: twenty three. They've moved to states like Florida, Tennessee, Texas, 665 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: Army and some of the reasons, obviously are economic, lower taxes, 666 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: perhaps less crime, but other other underlying issues that we're 667 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: not detecting here. Why do you think the reason for 668 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 3: this is same phenomenon is happening from New York people 669 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: leaving and going to those red states. 670 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 7: Look when Mo'm Donni and nusso say, hey, where are 671 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 7: they gonna go? 672 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: Uh? 673 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, bro, we see where they're gonna go. They're gonna 674 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 7: go to Texas, They're gonna go to Tennessee, They're gonna 675 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 7: go to Florida, and they have obviously, look an advantage 676 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 7: of there's a lot of advantage having money. Money is 677 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 7: a good thing, right. One of the advantages it gives 678 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 7: you mobility. You could pick up and you can leave. 679 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 7: You're not tied to one place. Look, I'll tell you 680 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 7: a quick story about why people are leaving. Like I 681 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 7: own a property in Los Angeles. I'm a former California 682 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 7: Los Angelino and I want the entire push for the 683 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 7: city is for higher density and housing. They want to 684 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 7: take single family homes and they want to convert them 685 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 7: to apartment building. So of course I want to do that. 686 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 7: It's more profitable for me to tear down the single 687 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 7: family home that I rent and build an apartment building. 688 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 7: But they make it so difficult for me to do 689 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 7: what they want me to do because they want me 690 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 7: to create higher density, but they don't want to make money. 691 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 7: They want to put me through the ringer. They want 692 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 7: to have put me through two years of regulations and 693 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 7: expense to do it. And guess what, I'm not doing 694 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 7: it because it's not worth it. 695 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: Well, that is the problem. 696 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's also a problem of a one party state, 697 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 3: isn't it. The Democrats just rule supreme across California, across 698 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: the major cities, and their policies are radical, and all 699 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 3: they've done, despite supposedly pushing for a greater equity, is to. 700 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: Have a greater gap between the rich and poor. 701 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 3: And it's not I think just the uber ritual leaving 702 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: states like California. 703 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: In New York Army, I think a lot of people. 704 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 3: Struggling to live, struggling to pay their bills, are also 705 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: looking elsewhere for a better life. 706 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 7: No question about it. Why would you want. If you look, 707 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 7: if you're trying to get by and your of course 708 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 7: from the middle class, right, why are you going to 709 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 7: How could you afford or want to spend five thousand 710 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 7: dollars a month in rent in Los Angeles, right, and 711 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 7: not even like in a great place Los Angeles, when 712 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 7: you can move to Texas in Houston and Dallas and 713 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 7: literally pay two thousand dollars a month for the same place, 714 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 7: it doesn't make sense. And of course, yes, you don't 715 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 7: have to be rich to have mobility. You just need 716 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 7: an ability to find a job somewhere else. And thank 717 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 7: god this country allows for people to move around they 718 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 7: want to, and they're find themselves saving money and having 719 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 7: a better quality of life, not just economically, but for 720 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 7: quality of life in terms of crime, right and in 721 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 7: terms of dirt and homelessness. All they're making that move 722 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 7: because life is just easier and better in alive these 723 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 7: red states. 724 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 725 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 3: And you know what, as long as they don't take 726 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: their voting habits with them to these red states, it's 727 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: all good. 728 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 2: Let them go where they want to go. Am harwaits, 729 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight. 730 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 7: Where's your pleasure still to come? 731 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 8: Why? 732 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: Netflix? Wants to part ways with Harry and Meghan. 733 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: Kinsey Skyfield is up next welcome back. 734 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 3: Joining me now is celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, 735 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 3: Meghan and Harry's one hundred million dollar Netflix deal is 736 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: set to expire in September, and the deal won't be 737 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: renewed by the streaming giant. 738 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: Tell me more. 739 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 7: Yeah. 740 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 13: Netflix has been quick to shoot down Sussex related gossip 741 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 13: for the past, so I think it speaks volumes that 742 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 13: they haven't denied this story. A source said that Prince 743 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 13: Harry and Meghan Markle just aren't as influential are valuable 744 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 13: as they used to be, and Netflix got their pound 745 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 13: of flesh through the original docu series where the Sussexes 746 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 13: tear apart the British royal family, but everything since that 747 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 13: has been an analytical failure and Netflix is expected to 748 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 13: release With Love Meghan season two, which was recorded back 749 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 13: to back with season one, and quietly allow the contract 750 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 13: to expire. No hard feelings and open to working with 751 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 13: the couple again if they can provide a home run concept, 752 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 13: but they won't be on the payroll anymore. 753 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 2: Now. 754 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 3: French President Emmanuel mccron and his wife Brigitte, suing Candace 755 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 3: Owens for claiming that Brigitte is sacredly a man who 756 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 3: transitioned or identifies as a woman. 757 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 2: Kinsey, this story is wild. 758 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: It is. 759 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 13: Candace appears unfazed by the situation, with a source telling 760 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 13: TMZ she has no intention of staying silent. In fact, 761 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 13: she's reportedly directly invited the Macrons to challenge her statements. 762 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 6: On her podcast You Know. As background. 763 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 13: Bridget mccron filed a defamation suit in twenty twenty one 764 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 13: against two influencers who claimed she was born male. Although 765 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 13: the court initially ruled in her favor and ordered compensation, 766 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 13: the Paris Court of Appeals overturned that decision this month. 767 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 13: It's evidence is one of the Macrons. It remains deeply 768 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 13: emotional when it comes to them. They remain deeply emotional 769 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 13: about it, and they're invested in this. 770 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: I think discovery is going to be fascinating and just 771 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 3: the entire relationship between Brigitte and Emmanuel, never mind the 772 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: genders to me, is highly questionable because she met him 773 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 3: when she was I think thirty nine. She was a teacher, 774 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: He was a fifteen year old student. 775 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: Now that in itself is just. 776 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, troubling, but it's kind of never really talked about 777 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 3: in any sort of critical way. Let's talk about Ellen DeGeneres. 778 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: She fled America she couldn't live in Trump's America, but 779 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 3: she's now hinting that she'd like to revive her TV 780 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 3: career because she's bored. She's living in England with wife 781 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 3: Portia de Rossi and Kinsey. They want something to do. 782 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 3: I can understand why they'd be bored. 783 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 6: Yes, I love this headline. 784 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 13: Ellen DeGeneres is planting a career back after getting a 785 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 13: bit bored watching chickens in England. As we now know, 786 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 13: it turned out that be kind was just a catchphrase, 787 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 13: not a character trait for Ellen, and Hollywood took note. 788 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 13: I don't feel sorry for her, but I feel kind 789 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 13: of sorry for the chickens. 790 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 2: You feel sorry for the chickens. 791 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 3: I'm sure those chickens are very pamper, you would hope. 792 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 3: So now Donald Trump is predicting that Jimmy Kimmel and 793 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: Jimmy Fallon are going to be the next lot of 794 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 3: late night TV hosts who get the boot, following the 795 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 3: acting of Stephen Colbert's The Late show Kinsey. 796 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: He really is having fun with this. 797 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 3: I've got to say, the unhinged reaction to Colbert Sacking, 798 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 3: the meltdown, the conspiracy theories, it's the funniest thing that 799 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 3: that show has produced in well many years. 800 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. 801 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 13: I will never forgive Stephen for his behavior towards Catherine, 802 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 13: Princess of Wales and the weeks leading up to her 803 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 13: cancer diagnosis. 804 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 6: He made cruel jokes about. 805 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 13: Her and her and her family at their expense while 806 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 13: gleefully hosting Prince Harry on his show Mess with Kate, 807 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 13: Meet Your Fate. I know it's about something bigger than that, 808 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 13: but at the end of the day, I would like 809 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 13: to just call it getting markeled. It seems like everyone 810 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 13: that has sided with Harry and Meghan have felt spectacularly 811 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 13: or had drama come their way. Hello to Tyer, Harry, 812 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 13: James Gordon, Joe Biden. The list is pretty long yet lonely, 813 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 13: and I think that these are all people that chose 814 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 13: to side with the wrong side of history and paid 815 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 13: for it. 816 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: You make a good point there, and even Oprah you 817 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 3: could add to that list. Of course, she's still fabulously rich, 818 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 3: but her public standing she used to be universally universally loved, 819 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 3: and now the negative reaction to her is so strong. 820 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's all down to that Harry 821 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: and Megan nonsense that she was involved in, but it 822 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: didn't help. Now, doctor Salvador Plencia has pled guilty to 823 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 3: four counts of distributing ketamine in connection with friend star 824 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: Matthew Perry's death. 825 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: Kinsey, what more can you tell me about this? 826 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 7: Well? 827 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 13: He now faces up to ten years per count in 828 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 13: federal prison when he's sentenced on December third, and while 829 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 13: he remains free on bond for now, his attorney says 830 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 13: he plans to voluntarily surrender his medical license within the 831 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 13: next thirty to forty five days. According to federal prosecutors, 832 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 13: this is the same doctor who allegedly marked Matthew Perry 833 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 13: in a message, writing I wonder how much this moron 834 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 13: will pay for the ketamine? 835 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 6: So goodbye? I mean good. This guy's a piece of work. 836 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh yes. Now. 837 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 3: Singer Michael Tate from Christian bands The Newsboys and DC 838 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 3: Talk has sent the Christian music industry into a tow spin, 839 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 3: with growing numbers of sexual abuse allegations being leveled again. 840 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 2: Sim Kinsey I've. 841 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 3: Got to say, I've never heard of this dude until today, 842 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 3: but apparently it's a big star Rita. 843 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 13: I have a picture of him in my kitchen that 844 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 13: I have to take down now. I'm like thirteen years 845 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 13: old and my eyeballs are popping out of my head. 846 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,479 Speaker 13: I'm so excited to meet him. I've been to over 847 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 13: twenty of his concerts. He has over fifty yes, over 848 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 13: fifty top top hits, multiple Grammys. You know, was campaigned 849 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 13: throughout Donald Trump's last election, along with Trump praying for 850 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 13: him on the stage. This guy is so high profile 851 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 13: in the Christian music scene. This is the new me too, 852 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 13: this is the new Diddy. All of these accusations are 853 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 13: absolutely devastating to his fan base. And yeah, I mean, 854 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 13: I'm shocked that this story hasn't blown up more considering 855 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 13: what a huge star he is in this scene. 856 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 2: Interesting. 857 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 3: I've got to say, I did not know about him 858 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: until today, until this story came up. Before You Go 859 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 3: content creator Andrew Callahan has claimed that George Cloudy played 860 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: a huge part in Jack Black breaking up his band 861 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:07,280 Speaker 3: Tenacious D after the guitarist Cayl Gas made a shocking 862 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: on stage wish in Australia. It was in fact in Sydney, 863 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 3: saying I hope that I miss Trump next time after 864 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 3: that assassination attempt. Tell me about this. This came out 865 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: during that Hunter Biden interview. 866 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, this is what I was going to say, this 867 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 13: allegation service during the f bomb laced Hunter Biden interview 868 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 13: that did the unemployed former drug addict no favors. At 869 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 13: one point, Hunter hypothetically discusses how he would handle things 870 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 13: if he were president, to. 871 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 6: Which I say, God help us all. 872 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 13: Look, I don't know what edibles and mood enhancers were 873 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 13: served at the craft service table for this particular interview, 874 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 13: but it was messy and not well researched, so I 875 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 13: give it little to no credibility or validity. 876 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 6: I know we don't like George Clooney. 877 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,720 Speaker 13: But I'm also like, does he really have any power 878 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 13: over tenacious D? 879 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 880 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 3: I get you there, And it was the interviewer who 881 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 3: who told that story, so it wasn't even Hunter. 882 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was a wild interview. 883 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 3: Three hours Kinsiscofield, thank you so much for your time, 884 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have tonight. I'll see 885 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 3: you tomorrow night at nine pm. For lefties losing it up. Next, 886 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 3: it's Newsnight,