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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. I want to get into.

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Speaker 3: The PLoP him like great players. It would have been

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Speaker 3: Rod Stewart. You've got to turn out for some of

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Speaker 1: My chief got so bad.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'll be having a great day.

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Speaker 3: Now are you going? By the way, Hey, you here going?

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Speaker 3: You look like you've you've sort of just dragged yourself

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Speaker 3: through a sewer all the time you get home last night.

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Billy Slader Glasshouses, what are you.

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Speaker 3: Talking about, mate? I do I had all my fun

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Speaker 3: in the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was.

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Speaker 4: I was home two am, which isn't pretty.

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Speaker 1: Which isn't that bad?

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Speaker 3: Not too bad. Actually, you look better than I thought

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Speaker 3: you were going to look. Thank you. I appreciate back

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Speaker 3: into compliment. Yeah, we go today, coops tell people who

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Speaker 3: we got.

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Speaker 4: So we've got a very good friend of ours, Chance Burns.

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Speaker 4: Now you probably you're not going to have heard Chance

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Speaker 4: of story before. Some people may have. But he dove

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Speaker 4: into a pool when he was young and became a

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Speaker 4: quad quadriplegic. But a really really good inspiring story, something

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Speaker 4: different than something we've done before. But it's a really

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Speaker 4: good story and a lot of good lessons in it.

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Speaker 3: It's a great story, you know. And the thing about

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Speaker 3: it is what you'll find amazing about this story is

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Speaker 3: that growing up Chance was like had horrific anxiety. And

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Speaker 3: he'll talk about how the accident and the thing that

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Speaker 3: he believed could be the worst possible thing could have

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Speaker 3: happened to him end up actually in a lot of

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Speaker 3: ways saving him. Yeah, and just his outlooks. He's got

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Speaker 3: a superb outlook on life and he's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: You'll enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's very good. You two are very tight.

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Speaker 4: You go down to the beach club quite because he

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Speaker 4: because he is a quadriplegic, but he's actually like he's

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Speaker 4: gotten a lot more mobile and like he can actually

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Speaker 3: Yep. There's been a lot, a lot of hard work

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Speaker 3: and he's got himself to this this stage and he

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Speaker 3: who are enduring similar things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I reckon Coops is going to throw to it.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it. Chance Burns coming up. Chance, have you

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Speaker 3: been brother mad?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Thank you you've been getting out in the water. No,

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Speaker 2: I've only done the one. I just go swimming. But

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Speaker 2: I've done that one with Kai a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 3: When you said, Kai, we're gonna let people know, you know,

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Speaker 3: like going out in the water. You're in pretty safe hands.

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Speaker 3: Is that your nephew, Kay Warner is a professional surfer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're good, even though we got caught in the

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Speaker 2: rip and nearly drowned. Yeah, he did a really good job.

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Speaker 1: How do you go out in the water. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a special board, and that I've just

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Speaker 2: funny thing is, I thought I'll get right back into it,

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Speaker 2: So I'd rather just do things I can do.

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Speaker 4: And I just went out to your car, and I

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Speaker 1: Going to Yeah, I got very lucky.

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Speaker 2: Like when I went back for my license, I had

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Chance, what we're going to talk about here is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been. Yeah, it took me with imposter syndrome,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, made it's funny cheap because already you've defied

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So because the odds are so low, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: You talk about things coming back up because you use

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Speaker 4: is there a possibility where over more time you won't

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think I trained to maintain not I don't

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Speaker 3: So chance, can you tell us all the circumstances and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I went to I came up to sit

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Speaker 2: and then I went through. Oh I did my mum

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Speaker 4: You just said that, Like you're in and out of

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Speaker 4: Remember thinking like did you have any thoughts? Like are

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Speaker 2: No? I don't. I can't remember. I can't remember beings it.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as after the operation. That's when my

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Speaker 3: You said something before and this I hear people say

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Speaker 3: it all the time. That really intrigues me when you

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me what does that? What is that sensation?

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Speaker 2: It's really surreal because I think Mum said it to me,

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Speaker 3: I said, Okay, what what did you What did you think?

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Speaker 2: Well, firstly, it was panic because I'm like, this is

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Speaker 3: Yes, Mighty Bunels, Bunnies, the Myrtle and Cardinal, Cardinal and Myrtle. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well their family, I know, your mum in laws

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Speaker 3: Over Jesus, that's so much for the family to endure,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of I wasn't. I was really close

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Speaker 2: So then I left there thinking I'm not going crazy

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Speaker 3: So chance when you're so running from it. You said,

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Speaker 3: But I suppose then you said the hamster world is

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00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 3: that you get up the next day and it just perpetuates.

438
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,919
Speaker 3: It's like and in fact gets worse.

439
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's we're saying before I don't think

440
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,479
Speaker 2: it's a one one thing, you know. I think I

441
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: had to eat well, I had to exercise a sort

442
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: of like building blocks. I had to do everything right

443
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,040
Speaker 2: to sort of try and get the best. I couldn't

444
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,200
Speaker 2: just go, oh, go and speak to someone and that

445
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 2: will cure it, you know, or but being vulnerable is

446
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: you know, and finally opening up about it was huge,

447
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: you know, being able to you know, just to talk

448
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 2: to someone about it and not to feel like it

449
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: was a weakness. Like I always said, like if I

450
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 2: went into a bar with someone, you know, the stigma

451
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: with it, and if I was standing beside, you know,

452
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone and I go, oh, yeah,

453
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: I broke my neck and they're like, oh my god,

454
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 2: did you break your neck? And but if I said, oh, yeah,

455
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: I've got mental health, it's sort of a different time. Yes, yes,

456
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So like it's so weird,

457
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: like the difference.

458
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. Jus Wallen we had him on

459
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: earlier in the year.

460
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 4: He had a really you know, mental health physical health,

461
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: but he treated it his mentality. But it's it's called

462
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 4: it should be called mental fitness. So fitness where you

463
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 4: can train it, you get strong. You know, mental fitness

464
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 4: is the same thing if you work at it hard,

465
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: Like the more you work at it, the stronger your

466
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 4: mind and stronger your thoughts. Kind of get do you

467
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 4: think that? Do you feel the same over that?

468
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: Like I lived the greatest life you know now, but

469
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: I just had to work on it, and I'm like

470
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 2: all those things that I'd never dealt with it sort

471
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: of now, I'm like, don't even you know, think about.

472
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: When the accent happened? Chance did you was a little

473
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: bit like you went, I knew it like your mass,

474
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: Like I knew it. This was going to be my destiny.

475
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: I knew something was going to happen.

476
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 2: It's funny, even though I was the ultimate concern about everything,

477
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 2: I'm also an optimist with everything. So I was like, no,

478
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: I'll just try and see what I can get back.

479
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: I just wanted to. Yeah. It was sort of like

480
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: I would say. I was lying in bed, going, oh

481
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: that's it. No, next year, I'm going to run that

482
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: city surf And then I thought, actually, I've never wanted

483
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: to run it before. Why would I I'm like it

484
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: maybe change it. So like it's sort of like you,

485
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: I just gave myself different goals.

486
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, the initial recovery. How long we get in hospital

487
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: for chance?

488
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: So I did twelve months. It was really about twelve

489
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: months in Sydney, and then I didn't went to Atlanta

490
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: in Georgia for six months.

491
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 4: So why, George, Like, what was what was the reason

492
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: behind going over there are the best doctors?

493
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: No, so there's no like everyone said, like there's no

494
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: magic snake potion or anything like you know here back

495
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: you know, and this is what eleven years ago that

496
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: now there's like amazing places around Australia. There's one around

497
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: the corner from you guys here, it's a good there's like,

498
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: there's amazing places everywhere now. Then there wasn't, and it

499
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: was sort of like, you know, I got a thirty

500
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars wheelchair and I was like that was going

501
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: to be your life because the likelihood of this is

502
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: not great and they can't give your false hope like

503
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: you're going to get So we just thought, you know what,

504
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: let's just try and get whatever we can. And their

505
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: mentality over there is you know, naturally probably also with

506
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: their health system, they're going to get in a hospital

507
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: for three months and they're trying to get them out

508
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: and there's I was sick as a dog. I couldn't

509
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: have left. So it's like, you train like you're training

510
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: for Olympics. When you got nothing, you like you're training

511
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: for Olympics and see what you can get. So like,

512
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: even when I went there after probably eleven months or

513
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: whatever it was, here, they said, oh, you're behind where

514
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: you should be, even being completely paralyzed. You should be

515
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: able to even just be able to do a few

516
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: more things because it's like you got putt in cotton

517
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: ball here, whereas once again, things have changed since then.

518
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what were the chance? What would the knights like

519
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 3: in hospital?

520
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: Ah?

521
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 2: That was that was the heaviest. As soon as like

522
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: I could distract myself, and I was very lucky my

523
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: sister came in every day and they had shifts, like

524
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: there was always someone with me and that take me,

525
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: you know, to training downstairs or anything. But as soon

526
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: as everyone left and I was just lying, I was

527
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: just a head in a bed and I just had

528
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: a completely paralyzed and I had a little button beside

529
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: my head and if I needed a nurse, I could

530
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: just lean my head to the side. And so that

531
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: was I'm like, what is my life going to be

532
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: like you know what, and I'm not going to be

533
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: like and I said to quite a heavy thing. I

534
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: probably said to my mom, I said, Mom, like, you know,

535
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm not I won't leave like this. I'm not. I

536
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: don't want to be a burden on everyone. And she

537
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: gives a chance to all. I asked for you you

538
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: give it everything for a year and I said, okay,

539
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: I'll do that. I'll give it two years. I think

540
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: it was and I said, yeah, I'll give it everything,

541
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: and that was our agreement.

542
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 4: Wow, your first you know, when you start to get hope.

543
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: I suppose what was your first mental win, whether it

544
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: be physically or mentally, when, because like you said, you

545
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 4: didn't want to live like that, you don't want to

546
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 4: be a burden and everyone else, When did you have

547
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 4: your first physical win where you start to think, well

548
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: I can really beat this.

549
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: That was sort of There was just so many slow,

550
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: long ones like the first. The very first thing was

551
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: probably I think it might have been about a month

552
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: or two when I looked down and I said, and

553
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: I was sort of I said to my system in touch,

554
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, do my finger just move like a little bit.

555
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: And she goes she was squinting eyes, going no, I

556
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: think so, and then she goes did, and she's jumping

557
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: it down so excited, and I'm like, ah, don't get

558
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: too excited because I was already on too. I want

559
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: another movement, you know. So I and so what I'd

560
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: do is I and I turned it in into really

561
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: small achievable goals, so I didn't so if I could

562
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: move it once, i'd move to try and move it twice.

563
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: I'd all do the same or match it in everything

564
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: I did, and then if another finger move, then I'd

565
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: start playing that game. And then you know, just kept going.

566
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what what is like?

567
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: Because we've had sporting injuries, like I've had an ankle

568
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: injury where you kind of have to slowly rehabilitate it

569
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: and you train the brain that to repair those ligaments

570
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: back together, so it's your ankle strong again. But when

571
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: you say that, like you move, you move your finger

572
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: is a lot of it is a lot of it.

573
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 4: You're connecting that brain to the receptors. Like what exactly

574
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: is the scientific part behind it?

575
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: It's a very good question. They say that. Like I

576
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: was reading books like you know, retraining neural pathways, and

577
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: everyone said, just you know, you've got to think about it.

578
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: But I'd be thinking NonStop and I'm like I'd pass

579
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: out like I was, so i'd pass out a lot.

580
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: But like if I was like, okay, I've got to

581
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: move it twice and I'd pass out. I couldn't. It

582
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: was such because the messages weren't getting through and it

583
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: was just weird thing that I could not connect.

584
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: So what what blocks the message? Like the brain messages?

585
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: So with the my spinal cord, the doctors say probably

586
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: only about ten or fifteen percent of my spinal cords

587
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: not damage. And that's like my doctor when I've gone,

588
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: he goes, he said to you one day, he goes, Oh,

589
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: I think you wanted to tell ten million, he goes,

590
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 2: because the likeli of doing what you do with your

591
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: damage is so I'm like, I'm not going to question it.

592
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: I'll just take it.

593
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

594
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I got very lucky with what I

595
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: can do for the amount of damage. Yeah.

596
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Chance, some other things that you know you don't which

597
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: are minor things will mind are insane And I imagine

598
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: for you that it was really awful. There's a young

599
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 3: guy we've we've done a bit of stuff with up

600
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: in Queensland, young Joseph who had a spinal injury. And

601
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: Joseph he's only a young fellow, but he bet six

602
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: or five, six or six big kid, so the nurses

603
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: really struggled to turn him over and the poor kid

604
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: and saw him was covered in bed stores. Yeah, like

605
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: even just something like that for you was that.

606
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: They're huge setbacks in those early days. Yeah, and people

607
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: go ask, you know, I started walk, you know, like

608
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: you get on a treadmill and you get a harness

609
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: and start walking. They'll break the wrankle and you're like,

610
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: but to repair back from that compared to an able

611
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: bodied person and then you you know, so they're huge

612
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: setbacks that you know, lucky I didn't have any of those.

613
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Mine was just it was a slow burn. But yeah,

614
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: there's all those kind of you know, bedstills are a

615
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: huge thing because you're just lying there like you know,

616
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: you're just getting rolled to get changed and you know,

617
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom. During the night, you're just

618
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: sitting a buzzer going like you know, you're getting rolled

619
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: by the nurse and the nurses eight hours a day.

620
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: Look after amazing.

621
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: It was funny, you know, talking to him at times.

622
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: I almost see him sometimes chance just forget about it,

623
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: if that makes sense. Yeah, he'd like forget for a second.

624
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: I'd see him and he'd laugh, you know.

625
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: At everyone.

626
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: He'd be quite jovial, and then i'd see him the

627
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: mood change again.

628
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: Is that how it is a little bit of chanced

630
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: with their times where and so itself emotionally you're feeling

631
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: feeling really good and then like a realization hits you.

632
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

633
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Look, it's it's funny. Like I think most

634
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: of the time, I was quite upbeat for some reason,

635
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: probably around my family, Like you'd have my dark moments,

636
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, I just sort of wanted to have Like

637
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: I think it was all me. Humor was my probably

638
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: my saving grace. I just love having fun and a joke.

639
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: So I just see everything in riddles from when I

640
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning, like I wake up my

641
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: stays and forget. I'm just save but I'm like, just

642
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: have to walk. I think it's maybe stupid. Is my

643
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: strongest that set was it? Were you?

644
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: How positive were you in that time? Because you are

645
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: like you take the piece out of yourself a lot. Now,

646
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: you know, we've had to be with you, and you're

647
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: always taking the piece out yourself. Back then, even when

648
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: you know you're having your darkest days, you're in hospital,

649
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: you can't move when nurses are coming in and your

650
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: cracking jokes are you're taking the piece out of yourself.

651
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: One, Yeah, it's all that stone is giving me material. Yeah,

652
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: because I'm flacking. But yeah, I think do you know

653
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: what the nurses were great? That's what they were. They're

654
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: they're rude and naughty and do you know what you

655
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: just have jokes and laugh and yeah, I think it would. Yeah,

656
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: you just I don't know. The way I saw it is.

657
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I didn't take it too seriously. I thought it is

658
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: what it is. I can't change it. So that's what

659
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: it is.

660
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: There's a trait. I just thought of something there. I

661
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: just want to quiz you on this. There's a trait

662
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: that the boy's mother, my wife Patricia, has in the

663
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: fact that right at them, and I think it's a

664
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: female trait is very pragmatic. It's like the worst thing

665
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: can happen, right Honestly, the house could be on fire

666
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: and then she'll turn to me and go, did you

667
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: impact the dish or were there times that your mom

668
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: would come in and just be fussing around and you're going,

669
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: what the hell?

670
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: It was insane, Like my mom's like she's so smart,

671
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: but she's also eccentric. So I'd come I'd wake up

672
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: and I'd have things stuck to my fingers, trying to

673
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: like cotton buds, and she'd take things around me. She

674
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: was trying to fix me like it was. It was

675
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: it was. We just laughed because it was so ridiculous.

676
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, so like and she looked after like she

677
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: took me to American and I'm lying in bed and

678
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: she'd come in and it's just just so fast and erratic.

679
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: And she'd come in with like ten tablets in the

680
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: morning and I'm completely paralyzed and just throw them in

681
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: my mouth and I'm like swallowing, And then I see

682
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: her running back at me and she's got a hand

683
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: in my mouth because she's given me all my nighttime

684
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: sleeping tablets and she's got a hand down my throat

685
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: trying to get them out if so before I go

686
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: to the gym. But it was just this craziness all

687
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: do so I can be entertained.

688
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: That just spoke a little question for me, has anyone

689
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: ever asked you something, whether it be they're not realizing

690
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: you know you're quadriplegic, or they just forget, and then

691
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: you have to kind of remind them all, like you know,

692
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm quadriplegic, Like I can't do that.

693
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose like the one I the only time

694
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: I suppose I get it is my partner to say, well,

695
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 2: spot and I think they say oh that. People come

696
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: past and they go you're younger, and you go like,

697
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: and it's it's probably weird to bring this up because

698
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, ninety nine nine ninety percent of people are amazing,

699
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: But every now and then you get someone get really

700
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: angry with you, Like and the lady came past, she goes,

701
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: you can't part there, and I said, oh, I've got

702
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: a stick at there. She goes, well, you can't part there.

703
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I'm a quadriplegic, and goes, yeah, sure

704
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: you are, and I'm like oh, and I just sort

705
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: of put my hands up like we like because you

706
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: can tell that my hands don't work properly. And she ows,

707
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: if anything, you'd be a paraplegic. I said, will you

708
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: giving me a diagnosia? But that's so rare, Like you know,

709
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: like I think friends will just ask, you know, like

710
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: they don't they don't have any filter, you know, so

711
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: I tell stories. You know. They were going, oh, can

712
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: you get an direction? You know, like two things, and

713
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, if I couldn't, you know, that'd be

714
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: really embarrassing the conversation. But what happened is I was

715
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: cruising down the hallway in my wheelchair. I can only

716
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: move one hand. I still this arm still didn't move,

717
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: and I had a catheter coming out from my and

718
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm going pasting. A guy in a wheelchair coming the

719
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: other way and goes having any wins and I said, oh,

720
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: my leg actually worked today, And I moved my leg

721
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: a little bit, but it pulled on the catheter and

722
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: the next minute I get an erection. So this is

723
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: probably about four months later, and I was so embarrassed.

724
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a great moment, but a really

725
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: embarrassing moment. Same because I can't even cover myself and

726
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm like okay then, and so I just took off down.

727
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: The hall way sure run out.

728
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, So like I think people like early days,

729
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: you know, I had friends ring and I was completely paradised,

730
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: can you get up? And I'm like that's their first question.

731
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's a weird one.

732
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I've got a mate leaves up

733
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: in the goal coat. The same thing happened at his

734
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: eighteenth birthday. Dove into a pool and he's quad pleasing

735
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: now in a chair. He has a twenty four to

736
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: seven care, but he is the same as you, great

737
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: sense of humor, takes a piece out of himself.

738
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: But because he's.

739
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: Got a care with him all the time, and he's

740
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: just one of his mate, one of his mates is

741
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: his care, so they'll and he loves a drink, loves

742
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: a good time, so he'll and he's on all the

743
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: dating apps, so he'll he'll pull a girl on the

744
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: dating apps and the girls will come around. But because

745
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: he obviously can't move like he.

746
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: His care will lay him on the bed. No care

747
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: lays him on the bed. And he's big.

748
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: His big thing is obviously four plate because he like

749
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 4: that's his thing. So the care will be sort of

750
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: in the room with him, and the girl will just

751
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: kind of come in and just engage in full play

752
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: with him, and the care has to kind of sit

753
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: there just in case he needs help being rolled over

754
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: or anything like.

755
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: Care puts him on top and he just puts his

756
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: Blotbot just pushed his but.

757
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: Because he's because he's such a funny dude, and like

758
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: he just he just with it. Yeah, he just goes

759
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: with it and he just he just pulls so many

760
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: girls because he's quick with Yeah, he's hilarious.

761
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: Been already so shy early days.

762
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: Chance. So you've fought a battle on to fronts. Yep,

763
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: you've had the you've had the mental challenge with anxiety,

764
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: and you had you know, the worst of you know,

765
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: a physical challenges with quadriplegia. What's worse.

766
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: It's funny. I never want to take light of, you know,

767
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: what I've gone through with it, Like it's been horrendous,

768
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: but I don't really think about it. But I remember

769
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: the twenty something years of anxiety of running. That was harder,

770
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: I think personally, And I don't want to take away

771
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: from other people who have gone through being a quadriplegic,

772
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: but to me, that was, you know, that was harder.

773
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: The mental game was harder.

774
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: In an absurd way, would you say that the accident

775
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: in some ways may have saved your life.

776
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite an interesting one. I'm like, well, it

777
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: made me get the best out of myself. I will

778
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: say that, like it changed you know a lot of ways.

779
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: I looked at things and did things, and I slowed down.

780
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: I wasn't running, I couln't run anymore, so I slowed down.

781
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: I dealt within and yeah, probably, yeah, I do agree.

782
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: I think I got a lot better out of myself.

783
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: Since what what changed in your perspective to life and

784
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: like your mindset? What caused that change? Like obviously the

785
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: accident caused helped you face your fears, but what exact

786
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: thing inside you the perspective changed?

787
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: I think, Look, I probably is gratitude. Like it said,

788
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: sounds like I now look at everything like when I

789
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: was in the hospital for in my arm moved and

790
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: someone else's didn't. I'm like, oh, I do want to

791
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: show off and go online's moving because we're all we're

792
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: all moving at different places. But I think I just

793
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: wake up every day going look, I know there'll be

794
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 2: so many people who'd want to be in my shoes.

795
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't sit there and think of these shoes. I

796
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: used to be able to do all the things I

797
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: used to be able to do.

798
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: So.

799
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I say that gratitude is probably my biggest

800
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: equalizer of with those things. But I wouldn't want to

801
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: go back to.

802
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: Like I do.

803
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: Wouldn't want to go back to either start. But yeah,

804
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: that things are also age. I think, you know, I

805
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to go back to the twenties. I think

806
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: I was an idiot.

807
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: It is as you get older, I think life gets better.

808
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: You get older time you understand things more totally. You

809
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: do actually understand yourself and you're able to put certain

810
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: things in perspective, which when you're younger you can't do totally.

811
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: I'd say twenties and thirties, yeah, I think now I

812
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: think I get you know, my forties I gave the

813
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: best out of myself.

814
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: What are relationships chance? Did you know oftentimes you have

815
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 3: friends or people that are there for the good times

816
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: and sort of slowly disappear in the bad. We all,

817
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: did it affect your relationships at all?

818
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: I think, you know, like, I've never really looked at that.

819
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: Someone asked me and go, I did you know people leave?

820
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, I never looked at it that.

821
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: I suppose sometimes you know, you had friends that you

822
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: were the person who calls more and then I didn't

823
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: because I was sick, and so you sort of drifted apart.

824
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: That was just them.

825
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: You know. Some people are callers, some people aren't. Like

826
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: I remember bringing a guy and I'm like, actually, I've

827
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: never heard of him in five years, and I rang

828
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: him and he goes, oh, do you know it's my birthday?

829
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: And we just chatted and he never even mentioned about

830
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: me being quadriplegic. And I was like, oh, that's interesting,

831
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: and you know, like good on him. You know, it's,

832
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: as I say, he doesn't have to fight my battle.

833
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: So I thought it was quite funny.

834
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: Chance, mate, how you going, mate, I've got I've got

835
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: this ingrad. Know how you're doing, mate? Your life now?

836
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: Like your daughter Twiggy, who's just a powerhouse.

837
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell's Twiggy now she's fourteen. Yeah yeah, so yeah,

838
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: she was two and a half. But like it was

839
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: like she just wanted to care for me. It was

840
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: amazing and yeah she's yeah, it was. It was so cool.

841
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: Like I'd find her, like even at five, I'd find

842
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: her in the laundry doing the laundry. They're not hopping

843
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: the card and taking to school and she'd put a

844
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: coffee in. You know, it's six and seven. Don't worry,

845
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: it's changed now she's you're right, but yeah, it was amazing.

846
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: She just wanted to look after me. And I always thought, oh,

847
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: if I had a boy, would've been able to keep up,

848
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 2: you know, like that's so it was sort of, yeah,

849
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: that's been my my everything, and I sort of I

850
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: suppose it's made me be able to focus less on myself,

851
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: and I go, I just want to give her a

852
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 2: good life.

853
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: And you look at you look at like kids turning

854
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: points in kids life. I imagine when Twiggy is older

855
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: and she you know, maybe she's doing a podcast and

856
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 4: they're asking turning point in your life.

857
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: Like that would be a huge I suppose it forced.

858
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: Her to grow up a lot, like a lot in

859
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: terms of no kid at that age was probably you know,

860
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: doing the laundry, like you said, being proactive and getting

861
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: their old man a coffee like that. That's a huge

862
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: thing for a seven eight year old to be doing.

863
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like and they say kids are so resilient,

864
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: like she just thinks nothing of it. Like she got

865
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: on a podcast and you go, yeah, she wouldn't because yeah,

866
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: she doesn't even think I'm just saying well, she she

867
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: treats like she walks into the kitchen and dacks me,

868
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: you know, and thinks it's funny. By the time I

869
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: turn around, there's no one there, and I'm like, I'm

870
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: so annoyed, but I find it funny at the same time,

871
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: Like she just treats me. Like I think friends were like, oh,

872
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: what do I say to him? Like when I go

873
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: in like and I'm like, and I remember my mom

874
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: go oh, people were scared to talk, don't know what

875
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: to say to you. And I'm like, and I'm like,

876
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: I'm the same person. I've just broken my neck, you know,

877
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: like where's tweet? I was just the same person after

878
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: after ten minutes.

879
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: Did you find that?

880
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Really?

881
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Was that?

882
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: Was that something that's hard when you know people treat

883
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 4: do people try to treat you differently initially after the action,

884
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: like and you notice that, Well, I.

885
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: Think they didn't, like I heard later on like they

886
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: were like, you know, I even my mom said today,

887
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: like my uncle goes, he was building my house and

888
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: I was thinking of something and he goes, oh, couldn't

889
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: have happened to a better person. And I'm like, oh,

890
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: but he means just because of my attitude, He gaves,

891
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: you're a clown. You just make the because all I

892
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: did was joke about it all the time.

893
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: That doesn't come out right.

894
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: But he also and mom said, this morning, she goes, yeah,

895
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: he said, oh, I don't know if I'll be able

896
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: to speak with him, And she goes, he's still the

897
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: same person. Yeah, yeah, wow, because it was his of

898
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I think, you know, if someone's

899
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: you know, or had a stroke, and I'm like, it's

900
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: my fear of going and speaking to them, put them

901
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: under pressure of how they if it's too much pressure

902
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: of them talking to me, And I think that's we project.

903
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Well that's what I suppose. That's what people do.

904
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I see it all the time, and

905
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: it's at a funeral or something like that. Somebody's someone

906
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: close to someone's passed away and you go up to

907
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: them and yet you know, you.

908
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: Want to be lighthearted with someone. You don't want to

909
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: treat them.

910
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: But it could be your best mate and your best

911
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: last and your best mate wants for you to come

912
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: and go mate, sorry, mate, you know, sorry.

913
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Treat you different. The best thing you can do is

914
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: go out and take the piss out.

915
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: But it is hard. I remember once going to the

916
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: hospital and seeing someone who is an associate, wasn't close

917
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: mate against and you know, very very sick, not well,

918
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: and better go into the nursery. How's he going? She goes, Oh,

919
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: he's not good. You know he's not good. He's a

920
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: really bad friend of mine. Okay, okay, she goes, when

921
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: you go in there, you best you don't say how

922
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: are you or how you going? Like that, and I'm okay,

923
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: no worries. So without thinking, I walked in the room

924
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: and I sort of just looked at them and went, yeah, right,

925
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't know how to start the conversation.

926
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: Aw yeah, I think I liked it the more people

927
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: were real with me, like it's just coming and do

928
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: you know what? You know? Like i'd have a joke

929
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: about like I got out of work, you know, and

930
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: I you know, so yeah, I think, but it is hard.

931
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: It's sort of what we sometimes it's our fear of

932
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: what they're going to, putting them under pressure.

933
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: Chance I quickly ask you sorry, inspiration for it, like

934
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: I I know Dad's probably the same. I love listening

935
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: to music, like before a game. Regular I used to

936
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: love listening to music to kind of a bit of

937
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 4: inspiration when you were going through your rehab process. Was

938
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: there whether it be a person, a movie or a song, Like,

939
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: was there something that you really looked at for inspiration?

940
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. I only watched Comment so I just

941
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: I think I've watched every comedy and I will just

942
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: watch things on repeat and sort of and I still

943
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: do today, like even to sleep, like if I can't

944
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: sleep because I get a lot of neuropathic pain, so

945
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't sleep that well. So I'll even put on

946
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: things in just mindles like that Seinfeld. I would have

947
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: watched maybe three million times over and iver I've just

948
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: watched it go to sleep every night, or Arrested Development

949
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: or just anything that's humor. That's that was my thing.

950
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I just make them put on shows,

951
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: just because I couldn't do anything that'd set them up

952
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: the laptop in front of me before I went to

953
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 2: bed every night, and I just fall asleep to watching humor.

954
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: I just wanted to live in in front.

955
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: I drew the line at Adam Sandler. Life can't get

956
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: any worse.

957
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: Hang on a second, imagine that it just rolls into

958
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: Jack and Jill and.

959
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: Please change.

960
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: Chance. Now you're doing a lot of motivational We're looking

961
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: to do some motivational work, a lot of talks. When

962
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: people go to hear you speak, what are they going

963
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 3: to hear?

964
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully, like I try and get a message across

965
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: I like, I think you know, the injury holds weight

966
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: to some people like and going, oh he's gone through that.

967
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: But just to open people's mind to you know, mental

968
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: health and to say, look, these are you know, the

969
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: skill sets I've learned along the way to help deal

970
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: with these things, you know, from speaking with people to

971
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: you know, it's endless amount And once again, it's not

972
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: the same for everyone because we all will suffer differently,

973
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: so it's not a one trick pointent. But you can

974
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: sort of like I can guide them in you know,

975
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: things that I've researched and been taught.

976
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: Well, say, say I'm a sport, like a sporting team,

977
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: a school. I imagine you know, schools and sporting teams

978
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: and different sort of businesses would be interested if they're

979
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: looking to get you in to do talks. Where would

980
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: they how would they go about finding you?

981
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm on Instagram or on my website, So yeah,

982
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: what's the what's the website? Chance Burns dot com dot

983
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: at you, Oh, that's original.

984
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: I Cooper's is www dot heman dot com dot.

985
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: Au is it? Hey?

986
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you as well. Pain wise, is

987
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: there a lot of people in your position? What's the

988
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 4: what's the medicine routine? Like now like in the modern

989
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: day now after.

990
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: It's still a I think a juggling act for a

991
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 2: lot of people. Like I get so from my elbows down,

992
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: I get to like my hands on a grill getting

993
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: burnt off, like and I always I used to look

994
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: down to see if my skin was melting off. But

995
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: I get that down my legs and in my groin

996
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: and stuff, and it goes depending on where that can

997
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: be worse. And you know, I used to be on

998
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of different drugs and I've tried,

999
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: but I got to the stage where you know, I

1000
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: was in pain with all of them. But I was

1001
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: just I could just look at a wall. I sort

1002
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: of doped down the whole time. So I'm like now

1003
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: just rather just I'm like, I just have nothing. And

1004
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: when it's bad, yeah, I won't I have a you know,

1005
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: I might not sleep for two nights straight and I

1006
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: watch a lot of movies and walk around the house

1007
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: and do things. But I feel like I can manage

1008
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: it better. And I'm like, yeah, I'm just at least

1009
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: I'm not doping for twiggy the rest of the time,

1010
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: like by just having so many drugs. So I haven't

1011
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: found something that really works yet. Yeah, if you know,

1012
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: it used to be I used to have a couple

1013
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: of drinks if it was really bad and think if

1014
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: that would help it. Yeah, I feel like nothing does it?

1015
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: Sort of, I can get your some autricious speed if

1016
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: you want a myth or Uncle Joey's medicinal marijuana.

1017
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: Have you tried that?

1018
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: Have you had to crack the medicinal marijuana?

1019
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? I tried. I tried it originally, like and I

1020
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: didn't notice any different. You know, I know that I tried,

1021
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: you know, the one with the THHC in it, which

1022
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: I felt like, you know what, It gave me a

1023
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: mental break for a little bit, but I didn't give

1024
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: me a pain break. If anything, it heightened because you

1025
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: know you can heighten, you know, your pains, So so yeah,

1026
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: it was sort of like, yeah, it sort of gave

1027
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: me a little bit of a break just for like

1028
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: an hour or two mentally like from my for my pain,

1029
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: but then the rest of the night it was probably

1030
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: more intense. You're right, so yeah, yeah, can I can?

1031
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 4: I quickly just is there any Is there any pranks

1032
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: you've ever pulled on anyone? Obviously, like you you spoke

1033
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: about the material that it's opened up for you to

1034
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: take the piece out of others and yourself. It's it's

1035
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: it's it's untapped. There's so much you can go into it.

1036
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: Have you ever pulled a prank on someone?

1037
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: No, Well, I used to do it Mike Roles and

1038
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: he yeah, he's got two prosthetics and his plays golf

1039
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: off like one or two. He's a freak. Yeah, but

1040
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: we used to do skits together. But like I remember

1041
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: like the first time I could put on socks and

1042
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: I because I had we had some fashion stores and

1043
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: I went in there once to show off to the

1044
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: girls that after four years, I put on socks one

1045
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: day and I walk in and he's standing. Then I'm like,

1046
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: he's just ruined myself. Like I can't show off about

1047
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: putting socks and he doesn't ever feed but yeah, I

1048
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just like it is endless. I think

1049
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: probably daily there's something ridiculous. I think mainly with Twiggy.

1050
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: She probably gets she doesn't find them funny though.

1051
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we do a menu of questions that?

1052
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you could be one athlete of all time

1053
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: you're an AFL man, who would it be?

1054
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah at the moment, could be Curno or probably a

1055
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: Slater Kelly Slater, Oh.

1056
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Charlie Curner.

1057
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: Is that yeah?

1058
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that your team? Yeah, Carton New Carton Blues.

1059
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's just I have no friends, you know,

1060
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 2: they say he's probably just one of the nicest guys ever.

1061
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: And I like his skills are just insane.

1062
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: So like Carlton, you've had really have had some bad

1063
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: luck in your life.

1064
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: We have, we have.

1065
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: We're having a good year, I think the second Wow, Yeah.

1066
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 3: It's been a long time, hasn't it. I remember growing

1067
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: up watching watching Why World of Sports, it was almost

1068
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: like there were two certainties. They showed the AFL Grand Final,

1069
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: it was almost all always Collingwood Carlton, And when they

1070
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: showed the All Island Final and the hurling, it was

1071
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: always Tipperary versus killed Camp.

1072
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: All right, what about your favorite song of all time? Chance?

1073
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh, do you know i'd probably respute at the moment?

1074
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: Baronym baronym woll Yeah, I think I played it at

1075
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: your party.

1076
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I think it just gets I don't

1077
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: know why. And I heard they were just out here recently,

1078
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: which I wish. When it's all it just gets you going.

1079
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: So I've been rocking that in the car.

1080
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: How do you go? How do you go at party?

1081
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: Because I remember you at that party you were obviously

1082
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: you had your walking stick and you were just sort

1083
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: of bopping a lock in the back corner. How do

1084
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: you How do you go at parties when everyone's up

1085
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: dancing and that?

1086
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: How do you go?

1087
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, do you know what? I always think if

1088
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: I got invited to a wedding, now i'd be and

1089
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: I went up on the you know, to go for

1090
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: a dance. People go, oh, that's so cute, where before

1091
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: they were gone, he has no rhythm, get off. So

1092
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: I think nearly it's a positive now, But yeah, i'd

1093
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: look at ears or I went to going away on Sunday.

1094
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 2: But after I'm there for us there for probably announce something.

1095
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: But I lose my voice because I can't project from

1096
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: my belly. So by the end I was sort of

1097
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: talking like this, So I sort of left, you know,

1098
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: went home. Yeah. But yeah, so, but I don't know,

1099
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: I just love it. I just you know, I just think.

1100
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't even think about what I can't do. I

1101
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: just think, oh, this is fun.

1102
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. What about your favorite movie of all time?

1103
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Super Bad? Oh?

1104
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: Well good, they got Jack out of his seat. I

1105
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: watched it again the other night, just like it actually

1106
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: gets better every time.

1107
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Goal.

1108
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: It's one of the most quotable movie like this, you

1109
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: forget there's so many quotes in it that every time

1110
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: you rewatch it there's a there's something you didn't even notice,

1111
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: Like I love the guy who when when Mick love

1112
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 4: And gets arrested and Jonah Hill and Michael sa are

1113
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: out the front discussing how they're going to get our goal,

1114
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: and the guy that reverses over Jonah Hill because I

1115
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: didn't even and see you mans.

1116
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: In other movie's Actually he's done, he's done.

1117
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done a heaps of He's just a big

1118
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: TV show.

1119
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: You got to do the song? Got to do the

1120
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: song again with the guys at the party and they're

1121
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: all coked up.

1122
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: With Michael Sarah singing the most awkward moment.

1123
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: You're Jimmy's cousin.

1124
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 3: It is so funny.

1125
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: That's Champagne.

1126
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

1127
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: That was Jack from the Jack Forgots.

1128
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1129
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Okay, last question for your chance.

1130
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: This is I don't know how this one's going to

1131
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: go down. This Would you rather be dropped in the

1132
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: middle of the desert or in the middle of the ocean.

1133
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: I'd go ocean.

1134
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, why it's pretty.

1135
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 2: Actually a weird one. When I can't really sima, I think, yeah,

1136
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: just I just hate also, well not all quadaplegics. But

1137
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: I don't sweat a lot below my injury, so you're overheat,

1138
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: so you can't climatize. So when you don't sweat, you

1139
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 2: can't cool down because your body can't therm a regular Yeah,

1140
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: it just doesn't hasn't. Yeah, So I don't feel like

1141
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: I don't feel temperature for my neck down like hot

1142
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: or cold, so I can burn myself, but you can.

1143
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: And I don't feel sharp, so you can run your

1144
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: finger down me, and I can feel that if I

1145
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: close my eyes, but you can run a knife and

1146
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: cut me open. And I can't feel it.

1147
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: Really could be quite bad. Just have a smoke and it.

1148
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Just exactly tell you're on a superhero chance.

1149
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: That was awesome, mate, You really appreciate your time. Just

1150
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: one more time for people that are going to look out.

1151
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: You're going to reach out to you for a talk

1152
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: or anything.

1153
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,960
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1154
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: You okay and Instagram as well.

1155
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, chance Burns, Chances Bars, yeah cut, anyone from Carton

1156
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: Blues is watching, Yeah, get a chance down there exactly.

1157
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, your cheap bastards.

1158
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Chances coming on

1159
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Four