1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: I get a team. It's Craig Anthony Harpret's the You Project. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I hope you're bloody fantastic. It's six o five in 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: the PM in the thriving metropolis of Melbourne, down the 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: bottom of Australia. And as you know we have this 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: show goes now into are you sitting down? Are you ready? 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: This show goes into about ninety countries and we have 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: people from all over the world who, for whatever reason, 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: choose to tune in. So thank you to all you people. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: And I chat. I would say at least three or 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: four times a week I chat to someone who isn't 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: in Australia, and today I'm doing exactly that. His name 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: is doctor Carlos Davidovich. Did I get that right? 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: Doc? P perfect? 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: And where are you? Tell my audience where you are? 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: I'm in Madrid, Spain right now? 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: You're in Madrid. I thought you said I'm in my dream, 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: so I said, what a great place to be. 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, that happens all the time. 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Now, could you tell my crew? I'll try to speak slowly. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Is the Australian accent hard for you? 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Depends? No, I can't understand you. 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I'll try it well, that's we're probably about equal in 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: terms of understanding each other, although you, I think you're 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: probably easier to understand the me. Tell my audience a 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: little bit about your background and who you are, doc, 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: if you would, and what you do. 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Jess in a nutshell, I mean born and raised 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 3: in Argentina. I'm originally from Argentina. I'm MD, medical doctor. 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: I work as medical doctor and also I was an 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: executive in business in pharmaceutical, mainly in biotech, so quiet 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: niche area. In one moment, I decided to move to 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: Europe for personal reasons, not for work, and I had 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: to reinvent it myself absolutely and I ended doing what 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing today. 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm executive coach. 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: I work with companies very practical way, and what I 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: do is to bring I would say practical tips coming 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: from neuroscience. 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't talk about science. 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: I talk about I would say human behavior with the 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: support of neuroscience and that how that works in organizations 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: and business. 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: So what I do is try to bring common topics. 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: Could be feedback, could be a growth mindset, could be 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: the process of changing the brain. And then to share 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: I would say the most accurate and possible practical tips 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: on how to deal with that in an organization. As 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: you know, Craig, the issues in organization is not about 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: the technicality, it's not about the products. It's about how 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 3: people relates with people could be your team, or could 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: be your clients or customers. But in the end, it's 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: about human behavior and that is what happened. That's my 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: specialization to say, to say it in a way, and 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: I work now here, but I was living seven years 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: in Canada. I work with the rest of Europe Asia 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: now from my home, and that is another I would. 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Say positive side effect of the pandemic. I mean now 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: we can work from home and all over the world 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: and people accept it. 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: So that's what I do coaching, and I give a 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: lot of talk and lectures. I would say, more of 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: the election workshops or different topics applying neuroscience in organization. 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: That's what I do. 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean? I think one of 65 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the things that everyone has in common, whether it's at 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: work or at home, whether it's personal or professional doc 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: is that if not everyone, nearly everyone wants to be 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a better version of themselves. You know, whether that's mentally, emotionally, physiologically, 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, health, business, career. What do you think some 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: of the and I know there's a diverse cross section 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: of reasons, but what are some of the bigger barriers 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: that get in the way of us and our possibilities, 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: us and our potential us and the hard performance version 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: of us. 75 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: It's an excellent question. 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: And Okay, in the next four hours I will expell you. 77 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, get comfortable. This could take a while. 78 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: So let me think just a few seconds. 79 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: I will say that the main barrier and I will 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: go I will say cliche is the main barrier is ourselves. 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: It's I coach many, many, many, many people, and where 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: you can find is this. I like to use the 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 3: metaphor many of us due to the way we deal 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: with ourselves, the way we criticize ourselves so much. 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: We go through life at the end doing what we 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: want to do. 87 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: But it's like the metaphor is like walking with a 88 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: backpack full of stones, so it takes so much energy. 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: And my work always is to help people to at 90 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: least to take some stones out of the backpack. And 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: going back to your question, the key point is again 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: I will say another cliche is how much do you 93 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: understand yourself, how much you listen to your inner narrative 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: and you can identify the different characters that we have inside. 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: I like to present this. I have a metaphor of multiple. 96 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: Brains, so different brains. In the end we will work 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: as one. Okay, I mean they are all intertwined. But 98 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: it's about we have different voices inside all of us, 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: and we are healthy. 100 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: It's not schizophrenia, so this is normal. 101 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: Question always with my clients is hey, let's identify which 102 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: of your inner voice are you giving too much power? 103 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: For instance, is the one that is criticized your inner critic? 104 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: How much power will you give to your inner critic, 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: because a little bit. 106 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Is okay, because we'll push you to move forward when 107 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: what is too much will frize you and you will 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: stop doing. 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: So. What is your level of feeling of guilt? 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 3: Because I like to explain that, for instance, guilt and 111 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: responsibility is a polarity. 112 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: They are the two extreams of the same line. 113 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: What I want to say is what you want to 114 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: say is, hey, man, if you feel guilt, I cannot 115 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: avoid that. 116 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: You will feel guilt if your level of guiltness is. 117 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: Too high, But move as soon as possible to the 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: responsibility side. Most of them, they have a completely opposite 119 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: emotional impact. I feel guilt is a negative emotion. I 120 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: don't want to move I don't want to make a 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: mistake again. If I feel responsible means I can do it, 122 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: and definitely I will be more productive. 123 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Makes sense, correct, Yeah, hundred percent. I feel like sometimes, Doc, 124 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: there's a bit of space between self loathing and self awareness. 125 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, self awareness is I could do better, I 126 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: got that wrong. I know what I did wrong. I'm 127 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: going to make a different decision or take a different path, 128 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: embrace the new behavior, ask a better question, whatever, Whereas 129 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: self loathing is I'm an idiot, I always get this wrong. 130 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm always you know that, blah blah. I think the 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: difference for me, the challenge over the years, because I 132 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: can have a tendency to beat myself up, right, is 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: to recognize what I did wrong, acknowledge it, but not 134 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: immerse myself in self loathing. 135 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, But this is the way to hold 136 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: yourself back. And like I told you before, if you can, 137 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: I like to say, can we delete this inner critic voice? 138 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: Maybe not? 139 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 3: Can we control and manage that voice? The answer is yes, 140 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: it's huge. Yes, Yes, in my personal experience, because I 141 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: also have that voice inside. I learned through years, through years, 142 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: I learned how to deal with it. First of all, 143 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: conclusion number one, that inner critic voice that you call 144 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: self loading is not your friend, is not playing at 145 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: your side. 146 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pulling you down. 147 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: Yes, So at the moment you can second concept, this 148 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: inner critic voice is not you. 149 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: I like to define it's a virus that got into 150 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: you when you were very young, when you're very very, 151 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: very very young. This is this is a relationship, the. 152 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Combination of family environment plus your own personality. It's a combination. 153 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: So it's not blaming the outside. It's a combination. That 154 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: combination allows you to let these virus to get into you, 155 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: this inner critic and will stay with you the rest 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: of your life in post or syndrome. Call it whatever 157 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: you want. At the moment you understand that is not 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: helping you, then you can start doing something. In my 159 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: personal right, I will say, what I learned is how 160 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: to download. 161 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: The volume of this voice. 162 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: Number one, so don't and I like to use the 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: image is take the power away from this voice. 164 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Don't use so much puck. We give the power to 165 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: this voice. 166 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yea. 167 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: And the second thing is, okay, I will I will confess. 168 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: I will do a confession. My technique with myself that 169 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: I share with my clients is. 170 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: By the fault. 171 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: When I hear that inner voice criticizing me and pull 172 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: me myself, I do exactly the opposite of my voice 173 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: is saying, by the fault, I not even think about it. 174 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: When the voice says, don't do it, I do it. 175 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: When the voice says go that direction, I go. 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: The opposite direction. And so far it's working. 177 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: What I mean is, let's get away of what Kaneman 178 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: called the system one. 179 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember. 180 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: System one is about instinctual reactions. It's about survival reactions. 181 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: And that is full of stereotype, full of assumption, full 182 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: of biases. 183 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: Yes, that inner critic voice loves these kind of things 184 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: because it's leveraging the power of those biases. Yeah, to 185 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: hold ourselves back, and that is what we need to 186 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: work against. So again, all of us, we did in 187 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: the end many things in life, but the effort was 188 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: too high, too much effort. And that's why I use 189 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: a metaphor, all the backpack full of stones. 190 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, and what is I mean. I love 191 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: this whole kind of metacognitive journey of thinking about how 192 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: we think and thinking about you know, even for me, 193 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: like I was a morbidly obse kid, right, So I 194 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: was a fat kid at school and had some good 195 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: experiences and bad experiences, and I grew up in rural 196 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Australia in the country, I was an any child. I 197 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: had all of these mostly good experiences, right, But in 198 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: a large way, how I think and how I s 199 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: the world and even my beliefs and my values, and 200 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of that is at least in part a 201 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: byproduct of just where I've been and what I've seen. 202 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: And then I think most of us don't actually do 203 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: a deep dive into our own thinking where we ask 204 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: ourselves where where did that belief come from? I didn't 205 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: choose that belief? Why do I? 206 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: You know? 207 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: And even that whole self awareness piece doc of realizing 208 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: that I'm looking at the world through my own lens, 209 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: so what I'm seeing is my version of the world. 210 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: It's like you and I are in the same conversation 211 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: right now, but we're not in the same experience because 212 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: you're the yeah, And it's like if we have twenty 213 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: thousand people listen to this. Probably nobody is going to 214 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: have for the entirety of the show an identical experience. 215 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, you and I are the stimulus or the stimuli. 216 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: And then they're going to process the data and some 217 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: of them will say that was great, and some of 218 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: them will say that was crap. 219 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that is correct. This is normal, and we 220 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: need to accept this normality. I like to call it 221 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: the ripple effect, you know, so because we can say 222 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: whatever we believe or we want to say, but we 223 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: need to be I will say, humble enough and open 224 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: and flexible enough to. 225 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Respect other people's perceptions. 226 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: So and stop saying you see it like me, right, 227 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 3: No you don't, yes, and I will know. I will 228 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: bring another thing that's very known. Right, we don't see 229 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: the world as it is. We see it as we are, 230 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: so all of us we have different components of our lens. 231 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: This is normal. At the moment that we accept the 232 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: normality of these things, then we can deal with them. 233 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: At the moment we fight with those facts that are 234 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: around us all the time, we are generating the problem ourselves. 235 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned one. 236 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: Word, Craig that I would say is essential on the 237 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: whole story called metacognition. I didn't want to bring the concept, 238 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: but not to make a complicated Metacognition is thinking about thinking. 239 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: Another word, is the typical situation that. 240 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing something and in one moment I ask myself 241 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: what am I doing? That is metacognition that is observed 242 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: myself at the moment I can observe myself. This is 243 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: a fantastic I will say, sign that I can control 244 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: myself in a positive way. Yes, I'm going back to 245 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: the different inner voices that plays inside of us. If 246 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: I let my reptilian brain very primitive, very survival, very 247 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: is zero sum game. 248 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: Give the power to that voice. My life will. 249 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: Be quite miserable just to say me one way. But 250 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: if I'm in control, I will try to highlight positive emotions. 251 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: I will try that my positive emotions will hijack in 252 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: a positive way in my rational brain. Let's put it 253 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: like this, and I will leave my survival brain or 254 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: voice just for emergency when really I'm in danger and 255 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: I need to survive and I cannot think. But please today, 256 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: based on what happened in certain part of the world, 257 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: and mainly based on the news, the news knows very clearly, 258 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: if I can aim the reptilian brain or survival mode, 259 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: we will sell more newspapers. 260 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: It's very simple. 261 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: Active activating the survival mechanism of people means I'm the 262 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: owner of their will and I can decide what I 263 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: want and they cannot escape from my power. 264 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: Makes sense what I'm saying. I don't want to make 265 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: it complicated. 266 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: No, No, it's great, it's great. You know what fascinates 267 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: me doc that people are drawn to attracted to watching 268 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: bad news or sad news or like And I don't know, 269 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know this, but a few times around 270 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the world they've tried to run news services like thirty 271 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: minutes News that only presented good news. It was all news, 272 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: but it was only good news. And they all failed 273 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: because no one wanted to watch it. 274 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: No I wanted to watch it. This is a very 275 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: basic understanding of human behavior. 276 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so remember that the brain has many basic rules. 277 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: Now that one of them is the brain needs to needs. 278 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: To have a plan about the future. It's creating plan 279 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: of the future all the time. The brain doesn't care 280 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: that the plan is going to happen. What the brain 281 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: cares that has a plan. The reason number why that's 282 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: the question. 283 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: The why is because. 284 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: Then the brain feels that can do some kind of prevention, 285 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: can be prepared for that future. Okay, negative news is 286 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: the one that will activate faster, sooner and a more 287 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: powerful way my brain because my brain will sense will 288 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: not go to the details of them, that doesn't matter, 289 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: but the brain will feel, hey, there is a danger. 290 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: It's a threat around me. Then I need to activate 291 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: all my protection of my defensive mode or survival mode 292 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: to be prepared. That's the only reason. And I will 293 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: say a joke now that people. 294 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: Love the Weather channel. Tell me why people will like 295 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: the Weather. 296 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: Channel complaining. 297 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: Because no, no, because the weather is telling you about 298 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 3: what's going to come, what is going to happen, telling 299 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: you about the future, then it can be prepared. 300 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: So remember, we love certain We love certainty, don't we. 301 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: We love predictability. We love to know what's coming. 302 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: That goes in the same bucket. 303 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: And I like to say that uncertainty is the kryptonite 304 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: of the brain. 305 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: Uncertainty. 306 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: The brain hates uncertainty for one simple reason, cannot be prepared. 307 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: The key negative impact of the pandemic besides the medical issue. 308 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: We'll not go there and millions of people die. 309 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 3: The main psychological and emotional impact was uncertainty. 310 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 2: Yes, was that nobody knew what was coming. 311 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: Nobody knew what's going to happen. Everybody was making stories 312 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 3: about in a month, it's over to months whatever. So 313 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say there was no way to 314 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: be prepared, and that is that is very danger for 315 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: our behavior and for our emotional stability. So when I 316 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: coach people let's go, let's go, let's get away from 317 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: the pandemic and go back to normal situation and company, 318 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: the way that I can help them to come down 319 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: and be in control is getting the right information. And 320 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: because because information is what gives you the opportunity to 321 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: do something, That's what I mean. So in another word, 322 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: when I work a lot in how to neutralize uncertainty, 323 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: because uncertainty is what plays absolutely against our behavior, our 324 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: decision making process. And you know much better than me 325 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: that we live in a Voca world, right, I mean 326 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: the the Vuka acronym. You know, and and and and 327 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: now even more I will say now that jump to 328 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: the next level booka world. So at the moment that 329 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: we accept that the Voca world is the normal, the 330 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: new normal. 331 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: Then we can start feeling differently. 332 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: So what I'm trying to say is always there is 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: a way to deal with the external world, but we 334 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: need to try to define properly what's going on another thing. 335 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, please correct. 336 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: No, sorry, I was just gonna say. Also, I mean 337 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: one of the the practical realities of the human experience too, 338 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: is that a lot of what I need to deal with, 339 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: you need to deal with, we all need to deal with, 340 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: is that moving forward, there will be uncertainty, there will 341 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: be discomfort, there will be you know, there will be challenges, 342 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: and so like part of our survival is to be 343 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: able to navigate all of the unknowns, the uncertain, the unfamiliar, 344 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: the uncomfortable, you know, because without that capacity to be 345 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: able to adapt, because the world is dynamic and things 346 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: are not set in stone and we can't predict the future, 347 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: it mostly Yeah. So while so while like uncertainty might 348 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: be kryptonite for the brain, I feel like in another 349 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: way oppositionally, it's almost a gift in that it helps 350 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: me become adaptable and resilient and capable, and it builds 351 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: skill and understanding and confidence, you know, Like because for me, 352 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: so much of what I've had to do over the 353 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: last thirty years, developing businesses and all of the things 354 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: I've done, it's been fraught with uncertainty. Like it's been, 355 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: there's been more unknown than known. And in the middle 356 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: of that, in the middle of all of that, you're like, well, 357 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I need to adapt, I need to learn, I need 358 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: to evolve, I need to get better, I need to understand. 359 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: So it's like this juxtaposition. While the brain's terrified of it, 360 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: but in terms of our potential, it's almost necessary for development. 361 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: You're so right, Craig, and I want to complete my 362 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: previous idea. Uncertainty is kryptonite for the brain at the 363 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: moment that the brain is not accepting uncertainty as the 364 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: normal way of living. Right And based on your comment, 365 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: and I love it so at the moment that the 366 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: brain understands that. 367 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: And again another applichie that change is the only thing 368 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: that is stable. 369 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: At the moment that we understand this, then we can 370 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 3: deal We can deal with the external world in a 371 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: different way. 372 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: One of my. 373 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: More requested workshop today is called the New Queue. I'm 374 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: sure you heard about it. So it's not about the IQ, 375 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: is not about the EQ. Now we talk about. 376 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: The AQ or adaptability question. 377 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, I love it. 378 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: Adaptability question is not about resilience. 379 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: Resilience one component And and do you know what is 380 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: the key factor of people with a high AQ or 381 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: high adaptability question? The key component is the ability to unlearn. 382 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: I love that, love that. 383 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: How much am I prepared to give away knowledge that 384 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: is not useful anymore? How much I can really accept 385 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: that I need to study again? How much? How much 386 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: I access? It's not studying again because it's not starting 387 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: from zero. 388 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: I mean we are, we have an experience, but that 389 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: I need to learn something new. 390 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: But to be able to learn. 391 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: If I don't und learn, I cannot accept it. I 392 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: like to quote one professor from Singularity University, and may 393 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: you heard about it? A Singularity university is the one 394 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: that they described is AQ. They say, don't let your 395 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: past success will interfere in your future success. 396 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I love it. 397 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: We realize so much in my past. And I will 398 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: tell you why. 399 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to complicate a story, and tell me 400 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: if my Spanglish is okay? 401 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: So far okay, But you're going pretty good. You're doing 402 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: better than I am. 403 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: So the point is how I understand that that is 404 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: exactly what you said, that my capacity to adapt to 405 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: these new circumstances is what makes me strong. 406 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the only way. There is no other way. 407 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: Yes, So the IQ you need to have the minimal 408 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: IQ to get a job, you know, I mean, okay, 409 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: EQ is about connection, communication, emotional intell But the AQ, 410 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: they say, and it's true, is the only one that 411 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: will take you to. 412 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: The next level of success. 413 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: Mmmmmm yeah, one hundred percent. I love it. And it's 414 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not something that's spoken about enough. Like I talk 415 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot, you probably like this analogy. My My undergrad 416 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: degree is exercise science or exercise physiology. So I spent 417 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: a lot of time. I owned gyms. Do you call 418 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: them gyms in gymnasiums? So I owned a bunch of gyms. 419 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: But you know, the basic premise of getting strong and 420 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: strength training, and you know resistance training is that you 421 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: do something hard, you work against resistance to create an 422 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: addit an adaptive response, and the response is strength and 423 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: muscular endurance and power and speed and muscle growth, hypertrophy, 424 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: all of these things. But all of this growth and 425 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: development and improvement and adaptation comes out of doing something hard, 426 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's the same. It's the same with 427 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: your brain. It's the same with with you know, in 428 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: your career. It's the same with developing as a speaker 429 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: or a podcaster or a you know, it's the same principle. 430 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: You work against resistance and eventually, you know, you adapt 431 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: and you start to develop. 432 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, I mean, but again, the step number one 433 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: is to accept this circumstance and to accept. And when 434 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: I work with people regarding change and people start very reluctant, 435 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: I mean more changes, I don't know if I can 436 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: do it. But the first step I go to, the 437 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: first place I go to is write down a list 438 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 3: of changes that you already went through and that you 439 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: were able to overcome. It's funny because we don't really that. 440 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so the. 441 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: Fear of a new change still is there, even though 442 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: we already we already adapted yourself to many changes. Yes, 443 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: I could say, I mean almost every day. When we 444 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: think that we have routines is drong. We don't have routines. 445 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: We need to every day we are creating something. It's 446 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: an illusion of routines that we repeat the same thing. 447 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: But every day can change. Every our life and in 448 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: one second can change in one minute, you know what 449 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean. So, what I'm trying to say is, AAA, 450 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: let's be aware what is really happening every day in 451 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: your life. And let's then understand that you were already 452 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: adaptable enough to stay alivee for instance. 453 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Yes, so, and the point is how to take this 454 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: to the next level? 455 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: So how to be proactive in this adaptability? 456 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: Cautioned? 457 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how to understand this as as a 458 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: normal Yes? 459 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. One of the questions I ask 460 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: audiences is how do I stay productive and proactive and 461 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: effective when I can't be bothered? You know, when I'm 462 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: when I'm lacking motivation, when I'm not inspired, Because that's 463 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: the thing is when ow when when our fuel is 464 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: inspiration and motivation. As soon as we're not in that state, 465 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, we tend to drop the ball metaphorically, we stend, 466 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: we tend to stop doing you know. So I think 467 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: the real challenge is staying How do I keep doing 468 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: what I need to do when the initial enthusiasm has died. 469 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, we see this with New Year's resolutions. 470 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely gets excited for a week. Yeah, there is a 471 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: trap there. 472 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: What you're saying, and I will let me play levels advocate. 473 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: I need to have enth enthusiasm to do something. In 474 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: the answer is I need to be motivated. The answer 475 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: is here. Yes, but let's get away to look all 476 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: the time for a shoot of dopamine. 477 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: Yes, because that is the trap. 478 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: Yes, So motivation many times is something unfollow I try 479 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 3: to get you know what I mean, I objective or 480 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: goals whatever that maybe in the way, I will not 481 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: be happy all the time. I will not be excited 482 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: all the time. When you talk about GM, when I 483 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: talk about physical activity, tell me that everybody is happy 484 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: doing physical activity and what. 485 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile they are doing that? It's not true. I have 486 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: an objective, no health. 487 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I wonder my health will be better. I 488 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: want to see my body in a better shape. But 489 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: in the process, yes, it's not gonna be nice all 490 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: the time. So I need to accept that that is 491 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: part of the process. When you say how to get 492 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: motivated all the time? Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. 493 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: First of all, stop looking for external motivations. Work deeply 494 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: on what really motivates you in this life, because the 495 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: inner motivations is the only one that. 496 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: Will last longer. 497 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so all of. 498 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: Us will love carrot and steaky you know. 499 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I receive a prah, but that is 500 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: short term benefits. 501 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 502 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to share with you is regarding adaptability. 503 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: So I'm bringing something I was going to tell it 504 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: and I didn't think when we talk about adaptability and 505 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: we talk about this resistance for the change, yes, that 506 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 3: will take me to a lack of motivation. There is 507 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: one question I need to as to myself in which 508 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: way I build my identity the phinician of who I am. 509 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: What I'm going is to the following thing. 510 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: Sure, the resistant to change is because I want to 511 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: stay in the same place because I feel that's my identity. 512 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: That is a mistake. 513 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: If I understand that my identity is my capacity to 514 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: be adaptable, then I can change. 515 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: All the time. 516 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: That is great. 517 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: My power of inadaptable, then there's no problem with changes. 518 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: And in another way, I like to tell my clients, 519 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: keep your. 520 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: Eyes very open. 521 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: To find those motivations, to find those objectives and whatever 522 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: has happened to you in daily basis. Don't try to 523 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: create something from nothing. What I'm trying to say is 524 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 3: you want to change your one hundred. 525 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: And eighty degree do it? Where's the problem. 526 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: But let's fine, what is the real motivation to do 527 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: that change? I mean, you're totally correct. What you said 528 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: is absolutely correct. Without motivation, without enthusiasm, we cannot do 529 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: a thing. So what I'm saying is when I hear 530 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: mainly politician or whatever they say from the last thirty years, 531 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: I always saying the same thing when they say like this. 532 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: You know, because. 533 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: I I said, oh, poor guy, my goodness. So you 534 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: never change, you never thought a different way. If you 535 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: are thinking the same way for thirty years, man, you're dead. 536 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 537 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: Going back to your going back to your topic about 538 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: keep ourselves motivated. 539 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 2: This is not easy, and I need to accept that 540 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: it's not easy. I need to accept the life is about. 541 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: Apps and down and I need to learn how to 542 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: deal with those apps and down. 543 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Yes, So you know you're talking about like when we 544 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: talk about goals and objectives, we talk about the thing 545 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: that we want. So we talk about the what, the what, 546 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: what do you want? And then underneath that is the why. 547 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: The why is the key. 548 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: The why is the key because that's what you really want. 549 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: It's like I say, I want to lose twenty kilograms. 550 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: What I really want is I want to be less 551 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: self conscious. What I really want is I want to 552 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: be more attractive to a potential mate. What I really 553 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: want is to be able to run around with my kids. 554 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: What I really you know. And then when I get 555 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: another level down, what I really want is to be happy. 556 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: And I think that on some level, I think that 557 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: in this in this hypothetical, I think that weight loss 558 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: will be a conduit to that other thing, or I 559 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: think a wage increase will be a conduit to the 560 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: thing that I you know. But so it's trying to 561 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: it's getting clear about what you want, but perhaps more importantly, 562 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: getting clearer about why you want that thing, because I 563 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: think that sometimes we're so driven to achieve certain outcomes, 564 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: and then we achieve them and we feel empty because 565 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: the thing we thought it would do for us it 566 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: does not. We thought that external thing would create this 567 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: internal reality and it doesn't. 568 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because remember that we project our future based on 569 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: our past. Yeah, so then we will never create something 570 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: really different. So that's why I'm saying we need to plan, 571 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 3: but I will. I will call a friend of mine 572 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: that always when I was too much in planning and 573 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 3: too much saying we need to do this. He always 574 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: told me, Hey, Carlos, stop, there live space for the magic. 575 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: And what I want to say is you need to plan, 576 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: you need to have objective, but be very open your 577 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: eyes and your mind to what's happening in the way. 578 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: I'm sure you know the concept of setting depity. One 579 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: of the most important discoveries in the world was certain depity. 580 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: People looking for A and finding B that c depity, 581 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 3: you know, but they were able to see They were 582 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: able to see it because they were open minded to 583 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: see it. So please, when we walk in certain directions, 584 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: stop expecting that you will know every single stable's going 585 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: to happen. 586 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: No, No, you need to know what you're going to walk. 587 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: And then pay attention because many new things will come. 588 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: In your way. 589 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah that if you are. 590 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: Not open minded, you will not see it at all. 591 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to complicate the story. 592 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 2: What I want to say is. 593 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: We cannot create a future without having that space for 594 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: the unknown. 595 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes that's where the joy is. Sometimes exactly, that's. 596 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: That's what the magic. That's what the magic is. 597 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Hey, just quickly, so a couple of things I want 598 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: to reverse over a little bit. So interestingly, I also 599 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: talk about the importance of unlearning. Tell me one, tell 600 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: me one, tell me one thing, Doc, that you needed 601 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: to unlearn, something that for you you did, perhaps a 602 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: one id on or something that yeah, you needed to 603 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: let go of or changed your mind on. 604 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: The first idea comes to my mind is my career. 605 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: I started as a medical doctor, a very traditional one, 606 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: and I thought already I knew my path, let's say, 607 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: and my life was exactly exactly the opposite. I cannot 608 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: tell you how different it was from my Many people 609 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: ask me. 610 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: Many times, many people. Okay, they asked me, Carlos. 611 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: Your medical doctor, how you now you're a coach and 612 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: doing what are you doing? 613 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 614 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: And the first reaction inside is thank god I was 615 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 3: able to be open enough to understand that my past 616 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: that was not that learning process was just part of 617 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: the story, not the whole story, and not to stick 618 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: myself to one specific identity let's go use that word 619 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 3: that would have would have kept me in one place 620 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 3: that definitely was not a happy place. Yeah. And then 621 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: and then I left Argentina and then went to Europe 622 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 3: and then Canada. 623 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: I tell you the truth, Craig. If you ask me. 624 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 3: How that happened, the answer is I don't know so, 625 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: but but I have some credit. Okay, was no blind. 626 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: My credit was to be attentive, and at the moment 627 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: that those possibilities came in my way, I made the decision. 628 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: I take full responsibility. I was not I was not 629 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: able to predict the future. None of us are able. 630 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: So be prepared for this unknown because this is this 631 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 3: unknown is what happened every moment in our life. 632 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: When people say it's so boring my life, I say, 633 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: but are you really? 634 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean, are you observing? Are you open enough to 635 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: see what's going on around you? Are you listening what 636 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 3: happened with people around you? And if not, start walking away? 637 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: I mean do something. Yeah, so stop waiting that that 638 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 3: happiness will come to you. Yeah. 639 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: You need you need to build, You need to build 640 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 2: it somehow. 641 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we're very much creatures of habit sometimes as well. 642 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: But I think also one other thing that interested me. 643 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: You were talking about identity, and we've also taught spoken 644 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: about mediccognition, and like, what I find interesting is that 645 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people get their sense of self or 646 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: identity from their beliefs or their job or their ideas. 647 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: And so when your identity is tied into your beliefs 648 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: or your ideas, or your philosophy or your theology or 649 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: your ideology whatever any of the ologies, when your identity 650 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: is intertwined with that, you pretty much become unteachable because 651 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: the moment that anyone questions what you think or your 652 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: belief you feel like you're being attacked, and they're attacking 653 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: your identity. So like, if I believe that whatever, this 654 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: is the best way to worship God, or this is 655 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: the only or this is the best way to live, unequivocally, 656 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: this is the best way every human should live like me. 657 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: This is the best way to eat, this is the 658 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: best way to exis eyes, and this is the best 659 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: way to manage your body. And I unequivocally believe that, 660 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: and I think that I am right. Then I also 661 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: assume that everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. 662 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: Right. 663 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: So it's like a very arrogant, self righteous power that 664 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: we put ourselves in, unknowingly perhaps, but it's it's like, 665 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: when your beliefs are so intertwined with your personality and 666 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: your identity, it's very hard to unlearn. 667 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely unless our learning is part of your identity. 668 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and we can adopt that. 669 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah. 670 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you use already several times the word belief. 671 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 3: And you know you know better than me as a 672 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: human being, we cannot be alive without belief. 673 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: We can't. 674 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: So we need to have a constructor of the world, 675 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: whatever it is. I don't care, but we need to 676 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 3: have an image of the world. Those are beliefs for 677 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: good or a bad. 678 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 679 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 3: The basic understanding that is so hard to understand is 680 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 3: if I was able to build my belief anyone else 681 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 3: can do it, but not necessarily in my way. 682 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 2: Yes, so I need so today. 683 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: You know the E and I diversity, equality and and 684 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 3: inclusion is a big topic for good or a bad. 685 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: Yes and I. One of my workshop is about that. 686 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: It's about biases, unconscious comunity, bias. That is the E 687 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: and I and. 688 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 3: I always say, listen, listen. Let's let's talk about two things. 689 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: The basic rule of the reptilian brain, I will tell you. 690 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: But another thing is this is not about diversity of 691 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: external aspect. This is diversity of thoughts. That we need 692 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: an organization people thinking. Definitely, if everybody thinks in the 693 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: same way, the organization will not succeed. Definitely when not succeed, 694 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: because always going in the same direction makes sense what 695 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, I'm a fanatic of technology, great fanatic, 696 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, even though as you can see, I'm not 697 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: exactly twenty years old. 698 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: A guy may too, may too. I'm a fanatic of tenology. 699 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: And the main reason is because broad brought us the 700 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 3: whole world closer to each other. Yes, in one moment, 701 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: we like it or not, It's like this. In one moment, 702 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: one of my sons, many many years ago, he said, 703 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 3: because my friend he's in Buena Sided, Okay, in Argentina. 704 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: And he said, because my friend in Singapore. And I said, 705 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 3: you don't have a friend in Singapore. What are you 706 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 3: talking about. 707 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: No, he was. 708 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: Playing online with somebody in Singapore and he felt a 709 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: connection with someone that he will never meet. 710 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: This is magic. I was. 711 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 3: I was leaving Craig in statistically the most diverse city 712 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 3: in the world, that is Toronto, Canada. That's the most 713 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 3: diverse city in the world between sixty five seventy was 714 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 3: not born in Canada. And then you can see the 715 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: process that will lead the rest of the world. When 716 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: you start leaving this diversity every day, the reptilian brain 717 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: will stop reacting. And now, if you let me, I 718 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 3: will share something. Now, the basic rule of the reptilian brain. 719 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: Whatever whatever looks differently than me, things differently than me, 720 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 3: say something differently that I think or I thought, I believe, 721 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 3: is potentially my enemy or it's danger. So because it 722 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 3: doesn't belong. 723 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: To my try this is the basic rule of the 724 00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: reptilium brain. 725 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 3: What is the way to neutralize this co existent in diversity? 726 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 3: When we live in an environment the people are different, 727 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 3: my reptilian brain will take as normal and we'll stop reacting. 728 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: So please, let's share. 729 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: Please, let's get together, Please, let's get connected. 730 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: That's the way. 731 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, you and I are starting the ball rolling right now. 732 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely too weirdos from different countries, totally, absolutely, But don't 733 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: you think. I mean, I don't know how old you are, 734 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: don't want to ask, doesn't matter. But even me, right, 735 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: I've done this nearly two thousand times, just this right, 736 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: And that's not including all the other calls I have 737 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: around the world. But you know, like I did a 738 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: thing last year, not last year, the year before with 739 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: Hewlett Packard. 740 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 3: I did. 741 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 1: I am a twelve month program where every I spoke, 742 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: and I spoke every time. It was about four and 743 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: a half thousand people in over forty countries. And what's amazing, Doc, 744 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm in my office at home, which I am right now, 745 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: and I'm talking to four and a half thousand people 746 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: in real time. They can write questions, they can even 747 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: turn on their microphone and ask a question. They're in 748 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: a myriad of different countries. There's no lag and I'm 749 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: sitting in a T shirt and bare feet, right. I 750 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: don't have to get on a plane. I don't need 751 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: to go anywhere. They don't need to go anywhere. And 752 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: I remember doing that. That was only a couple of 753 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: years ago, for the whole year, and I was thinking, 754 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: the world is so amazing, like what we have. You know, 755 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: there's bad stuff going on, but I'm with you, like, 756 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: not all technology is good, but some technology is bloody incredible. 757 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: I love it. 758 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm a fanatic that, yeah, we cannot. 759 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: We need to keep clear what really is going on 760 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: in the world. 761 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 3: What I mean is there is one bias that is 762 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: quite common called the availability heuristic. Sounds very complicated, but 763 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 3: what in one word means is whatever I will listen 764 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 3: more often, for instance, and news what comes to my 765 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 3: ears more often my brain will take it as the 766 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 3: truth and is wrong. 767 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: Yes, this is. 768 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 2: The power of news. 769 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: If you and I'm sure you heard about the book 770 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 3: fact Fulness one guy Gosling that he did a real 771 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 3: analysis of the situation in the world. 772 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 2: This is the world we are living today. Is the 773 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 2: best version ever of the world. 774 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, less words, believe it or not, less more education, 775 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 4: less hunger, I mean, whatever parameter you want to measure, 776 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 4: this is the best time ever. 777 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 2: Yes, so please don't miss the point. That's what tell me. 778 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, hey, listen, we've got to get you back 779 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: at some stage if you would like to come back. 780 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: But I would love to. 781 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: So appreciate talking to you. So interesting. Now, your book 782 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: is called five Brain Leadership, right, yep, correct, So tell 783 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: us a little just give us a snapshot of the 784 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: book and yeah, and we'll wind up and we'll figure 785 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: out where people can connect with you. But tell us 786 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about the book. 787 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 3: Five Brain Leadership is to show in a provocative way, 788 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: a different way to understand yourself and your people around. 789 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 3: I define metaphorically, that's different brains, you know. I mean, 790 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 3: in evolution, we have three brains here reptively an emotional Russian. 791 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 3: The heart is full of neurons, and our God is 792 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 3: full of neuronsin cells, and they are very, very active 793 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 3: in the interaction with a big brain. What I do 794 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 3: in the what I present in the book is a 795 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 3: different narratives, those different voices, how how they interact with 796 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 3: each other, and how they interact with us. And then 797 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: I like to represent or present it like the inner team. 798 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: Those brains or those voices or those narratives is an 799 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 3: inner team. It's five members, five members with different personality 800 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 3: and different goals. But keep in mind that you can 801 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 3: be in control. You can decide which one will be 802 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: in charge. 803 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 2: This is the key concept based on that. 804 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 3: Each chapter is a different topic, the process of changing 805 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 3: the brain, unconscious cognitive biases, how to take care of yourself, 806 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 3: and to stop talking about time management. Please stop talking 807 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 3: at all time management because that is absolutely wrong. We 808 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: never manage time. The only thing that we do, and 809 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 3: Craig you know it better than me, is we manage energy. 810 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 2: That's what we do. 811 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 3: The body is all the time managing energy and balancing energy. 812 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: Never time. 813 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 3: To get to leverage. Time is a consequence. It's a 814 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 3: collateral consequence of managing energy. So focus on how you 815 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 3: can manage your energy better. That's the chapter one and two. 816 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it all right. By the way, is 817 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: there an audio book or no. 818 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: Now yet it's coming. 819 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: Tell people how to connect with you, find you, follow 820 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: you social media or wherever. 821 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 3: Easiest way my website w W Carlos Davidovich dot com 822 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 3: or LinkedIn I mean Carlos david MD is very easy. 823 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 3: I always respond to messages because I love the interaction 824 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,879 Speaker 3: and the communication. 825 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: I think it's the easiest one. 826 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: There is Facebook and Instagram, but LinkedIn is the most No, 827 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 3: let's say in this. 828 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: Right now, we're going to say goodbye off air, but 829 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: let's officially say goodbye on air. So I appreciate you, 830 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being on the You project. You're 831 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: a font of wisdom and insight and storytelling and I 832 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: appreciate you so much. 833 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. Thanks to you, Craig for this opportunity. 834 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: That was great pleasure.