Speaker 1: Who Employer Report.
Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the Royal Report. I'm Caroline Derusso
Speaker 2: and coming up on the show tonight. The Royal aide
Speaker 2: who took on Meagan is back in the spotlight, now
Speaker 2: working closely with Prince William Russell. Meers breaks down how
Speaker 2: the Royals celebrate Easter and a royal throwback. You need
Speaker 2: to see King Charles in the eighties, how he saved
Speaker 2: British architecture and why it still matters. But first, Princess
Speaker 2: Catherine has appeared in a new video in her role
Speaker 2: as Joint President of the Scouts.
Speaker 3: I find it a very spiritual and very intense emotional reconnection.
Speaker 3: I suppose these environments not everyone that's ariginal. It parts
Speaker 3: with Nietzsche, but it is so that's all meaningful for
Speaker 3: me as a peace to balance and find a sort
Speaker 3: of sense of peace and reconnection in what is otherwise
Speaker 3: a very busy world.
Speaker 2: Now, I was really quite struck by this video, mostly
Speaker 2: by how open the Princess was about her spiritual and
Speaker 2: emotional connection to nature, her design to find peace. Now,
Speaker 2: this is not the first time she's spoken about nature.
Speaker 2: She previously made comments about how it became the family
Speaker 2: sanctuary after her diagnosis with cancer last year and while
Speaker 2: she underwent treatment, and I suppose in the aftermath of
Speaker 2: all that it's timely to recognize something that was pivotal
Speaker 2: to getting her and her family through a very tough
Speaker 2: personal time and a very stressful time.
Speaker 1: Visit VI.
Speaker 2: The speculation in the public sphere and that ability to
Speaker 2: spend quiet time with the family to shut out.
Speaker 1: The rat race.
Speaker 2: Well, it's becoming all the more important in our society
Speaker 2: as we become increasingly connected and isolated at the same time.
Speaker 2: And on Easter Sunday, what could be better than to
Speaker 2: know exactly what you were thankful for? Joining me now
Speaker 2: is the Daily Express raw report of Pandora, flour sight
Speaker 2: and news that colinist Angela Mollard Pandora we have really
Speaker 2: saying the Prince and Princess of Wales being really open
Speaker 2: about these sorts of personal issues, are reconnecting with family
Speaker 2: and nature. Do you think that this fits well with
Speaker 2: their broader advocacy.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean we've seen them both individually and both
Speaker 5: together speaking about it, and I think that's very much
Speaker 5: for reflection of the monarchy at the moment, more so
Speaker 5: than ever we know that the King very much speaks
Speaker 5: to them, if not daily, weekly, I mean they'll always
Speaker 5: be checking in with one another, and I think especially
Speaker 5: at times of health and perhaps leaning on loved ones,
Speaker 5: they use these places to really reconnect with nature and
Speaker 5: actually kind of find out what life is all about,
Speaker 5: I suppose. So it doesn't surprise me as all that
Speaker 5: this is being brought back around again. And of course
Speaker 5: this very much helps with the message with all the
Speaker 5: programs that they're doing. Obviously we've got Earthshot coming up
Speaker 5: later this year, so it always feeds back into that message.
Speaker 5: And I think this is something also which really goes
Speaker 5: well with early childhood years, which Catherine is so passionate
Speaker 5: about and has been. It's very much been her standpoint
Speaker 5: project since marrying in to the royal family, and she's
Speaker 5: very keen on getting children out in nature and learning
Speaker 5: about it. So this does not surprise me at all.
Speaker 5: And I can I just say one thing that they
Speaker 5: are getting it so right at the moment with their
Speaker 5: videography and how they're getting the message out there, and
Speaker 5: it's really appealing to younger audiences across the globe. It's sharable.
Speaker 5: You see it all over your social media, it fills
Speaker 5: your feeds, and it's making the monarchy far more relatable. Actually,
Speaker 5: even down to what she's wearing, she isn't sort of
Speaker 5: just coming across sort of like a I suppose a princess.
Speaker 5: She's coming across like a human being and doing everyday
Speaker 5: activity many people do around the globe.
Speaker 2: Angela, I totally agree with Pandora. They're particularly around the
Speaker 2: royal family getting everything really right at the moment, and
Speaker 2: we know they had a few stumbles last year as
Speaker 2: far as social media strategy and those sorts of things
Speaker 2: were concerned. Do you think there's anything particularly interesting in
Speaker 2: the timing of this video.
Speaker 6: Look, I think this is Easter time. Of course, it's
Speaker 6: a time of year that people think about new life,
Speaker 6: about celebration, and I think that's Catherine. I think I
Speaker 6: imagine that she feels very much that she's escaped to
Speaker 6: death sentence, and so to be in nature, to be
Speaker 6: with scouts, which is a very earnest and ancient tradition, really,
Speaker 6: I think suggests that she's focused on the goodness at
Speaker 6: the heart of society. We know that she said, you
Speaker 6: know that people and their messages were a huge support
Speaker 6: to her during her cancer battle. I think this also
Speaker 6: determines the sort of king and Queen that they will
Speaker 6: be in the future. They will very much anchor themselves
Speaker 6: in the things that are right for their family. And
Speaker 6: that's not to say that they will put their family
Speaker 6: above the crown. The crown will always come first, but
Speaker 6: they're very determined that being enmeshed and immersed in nature
Speaker 6: is so significant to their mental and physical health and
Speaker 6: that has to come first if they are to be
Speaker 6: the king and Queen in the future.
Speaker 2: And Angela still with you and I'm you know who
Speaker 2: they are in the future as king and queen also
Speaker 2: goes to the sorts of people they have around them.
Speaker 2: And if you eyebrows were raised this week, I think
Speaker 2: with Jason Enough being named as Prince William CEO for
Speaker 2: the Earthshop Prize, interesting choice, isn't it.
Speaker 6: It's a hugely significant choice. Carolyn. I think this is
Speaker 6: basically this is what this is saying, is that we
Speaker 6: vote for the people who support us rather than our family.
Speaker 6: So the background to this, of course is that Jason
Speaker 6: Knoff was the person that bought brought bullying allegations again
Speaker 6: Meghan when she was back with the Royal family now.
Speaker 6: He used to be a CEO of the Royal Foundation.
Speaker 6: He was formerly Harry and William's communications secretary. He is
Speaker 6: a very trusted member of the member of the families
Speaker 6: entourage and the people that work around them. The fact
Speaker 6: that William has now hired him for this key position
Speaker 6: is the greatest endorsement yet that he was correct in
Speaker 6: the bullying. As you will remember, there was that investigation
Speaker 6: into the bullying. We were told that there was the
Speaker 6: findings were going to be made public, but they never were.
Speaker 6: But plenty of people who have been employed by the
Speaker 6: Palace said that Meghan did bully her staff. And the
Speaker 6: fact that Jason Nuff has survived those that situation and
Speaker 6: is now a key member of the Prince and Princesses
Speaker 6: Wales's team suggest who their allegiance lies with.
Speaker 2: I did think that was just fascinating when I read it.
Speaker 2: This Waken and Pandora's East Awaken. We'll talk about the
Speaker 2: Royal Families is later in the show, but can you
Speaker 2: tell us how the Sussex is celebrated as did this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, of course we now know that Meghan is
Speaker 5: very much in her lifestyle influencer era, So any opportunity
Speaker 5: like this, no matter what influencer you are across the globe,
Speaker 5: you will be making money off the back of Easter,
Speaker 5: which goes very differently to what you'd expect from law
Speaker 5: family traditions. However, we saw a shot my page Meghan
Speaker 5: didn't Easter Reddit on there you get little carrot suites
Speaker 5: in there, you can get Eastern napkins. I mean, we're
Speaker 5: really going all out and actually, given the success of
Speaker 5: her brand as ever, and that did sell out, and
Speaker 5: how many people are actually buying these products and why
Speaker 5: wouldn't you to be honest at this point, it's not
Speaker 5: harming anybody by doing this at all. So yeah, she's
Speaker 5: made it a business opportunity. But we do know that
Speaker 5: Meghan actually formerly, you know, when she was without Harry
Speaker 5: in her life, she used to celebrate Easter anyway, perhaps
Speaker 5: not so much the religious element of it, but she
Speaker 5: very much was celebrating it in a very Montecito way.
Speaker 5: So they'll very much have an listera egg hunt. They
Speaker 5: will be doing that with their family, you know, when
Speaker 5: she was pregnant with Lily, but they were very open
Speaker 5: about how they're celebrating Easter. I imagine her mum Doria.
Speaker 5: We know they're so close. She'll be there, so it'll
Speaker 5: be time for family, but it won't be traditional.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine they'll be going to church either, so no,
Speaker 5: it will be a very Montecito set up. And I
Speaker 5: imagine what we will see in the next coming hours.
Speaker 5: It's perhaps an Instagram post very much showing how they
Speaker 5: are spending their Easter and how they have spent their Easter,
Speaker 5: because of course that's an opportunity, and she will very
Speaker 5: much being advised to get all those cute instagrammical pictures.
Speaker 5: I don't suspet we'll see their faces, but perhaps a
Speaker 5: couple of the back of their heads going down for
Speaker 5: an Easter hunt. I mean, that's just my guest. Guys,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to put it out there. We'll check
Speaker 5: back next week and whether I'm right.
Speaker 1: About that, we will imagine.
Speaker 2: Now, Angel are still with the Sussexes and another charity
Speaker 2: drama for them, this time the Archel Foundation, and it's
Speaker 2: in relation to a decision it made to cease funding
Speaker 2: to the Milwaukee Muslim Women's Coalition.
Speaker 6: What happened here, that's right, they've withdrawn their funding. They've
Speaker 6: funded this charity in the past, but the head of
Speaker 6: the charity, he's spoken out in a fairly pro Palestine,
Speaker 6: anti Israel sentiment. This has then of course led Harry
Speaker 6: and Meghan to have to pull back. They say that,
Speaker 6: you know that their charity is for all religions, all
Speaker 6: ethnic groups, and that they very much support you know,
Speaker 6: diversity across the board. The fact that this CEO of
Speaker 6: the charity he has spoken out in this way, they
Speaker 6: led them to believe they needed to pull back. But
Speaker 6: of course now the CEO has hit back at the
Speaker 6: charity and said, you know that it's pr before, before
Speaker 6: the help that they have, you know, before human rights
Speaker 6: and the things that they've given money to in the past. Look,
Speaker 6: I think this is indicative of the fact that the
Speaker 6: Sussexes don't know and don't have good guidance around where
Speaker 6: to put their money. Look, the Archiwal Foundation doesn't have
Speaker 6: that much money. Frankly, they're giving it to all sorts
Speaker 6: of different groups. But the fact is they always become
Speaker 6: embroiled in these problems because they don't make sensible decisions
Speaker 6: in the first place. Somebody they need to need to
Speaker 6: hire somebody to go through to look at who they
Speaker 6: are giving money to to see where problems might occur.
Speaker 6: They never get ahead of the damage limitation, that always
Speaker 6: chasing it from behind, which was the case we saw
Speaker 6: a few weeks ago with Center Bali. This is just
Speaker 6: another one of the things. They just cannot seem to
Speaker 6: be able to step away from conflict. It follows them everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very interesting how these things seem to
Speaker 2: follow the same to follow the Sussexes. Now a gentle review,
Speaker 2: A Warning. Our next story discusses the topic of miscarriage.
Speaker 2: Now Pandora, I've only got about forty five seconds left,
Speaker 2: but during her podcast discussion with the Rest Maash Rajani
Speaker 2: this week, Megan opened up about having a miscarriage. Now,
Speaker 2: these conversations have traditionally been very hush hush, But how
Speaker 2: important is it that women are open about these traumatic
Speaker 2: experiences which are actually really quite.
Speaker 5: Common, incredibly important. One in five women experience miscarriages at
Speaker 5: some point in their lifetime, with some women unfortunately experiencing
Speaker 5: more than that. We do know this information already, Harry
Speaker 5: has spoken about it. Of course, the partner is affected,
Speaker 5: not only the women, so this isn't new information. But
Speaker 5: of course I think actually Megan got this right bringing
Speaker 5: it up again. Any awareness surrounding this is remarkable, to
Speaker 5: be honest, and it needs to be spoken about more
Speaker 5: often than in the public sphere. So yes, I think
Speaker 5: it is very important and very braver. I've actually megan
Speaker 5: to bring this up again, but of course it's so
Speaker 5: incredibly personal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree, Thank you very much. Pandora and Angela
Speaker 2: Mollard now coming up and the Roles are preparing to
Speaker 2: roll out the red carpet for the US President Donald
Speaker 2: Trump after whole a turbular month of terrorf negotiations. Welcome
Speaker 2: back to the show, and I want to wish everyone
Speaker 2: a happy and blessed Easter Sunday. And as I do
Speaker 2: every year, the Role family, we're well and truly out
Speaker 2: and about in the lead up to Easter, including giving
Speaker 2: Maundy money on Easter Thursday. Now this year, the King's
Speaker 2: message spoke about faith, hope and love, and the King wrote,
Speaker 2: one of the puzzles of our humanity is how we
Speaker 2: are capable of both great cruelty and great kindness. This
Speaker 2: paradox of human life runs through the Easter story and
Speaker 2: in the scenes that daily come before our eyes, and
Speaker 2: he added, there are three virtues that the world still needs, faith,
Speaker 2: hope and love, and the greatest of these is love.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is the Royal editor for the Daily Mirror,
Speaker 2: Russell mos Russell. What were the most notable moments for
Speaker 2: you of the Royal Easter this year?
Speaker 4: Well, Hi, Carol, it's been a bit superiod, of course,
Speaker 4: you know the king is very important time for him,
Speaker 4: not only personally, but of course as the monarch as well.
Speaker 4: Easter time we saw him up in Durham Cathedral handing
Speaker 4: out that morning money that goes right the way back
Speaker 4: to the about the fifteenth century, and you have the
Speaker 4: monarch of the day of course, King Charles now handing
Speaker 4: out especially minted coins to local heroes, people who have
Speaker 4: not only tuned to the Christian faith but really done
Speaker 4: some great things in their community. So it's in place
Speaker 4: or in sort of tribute of his birthday. Of the years,
Speaker 4: of course, he's seventy six there, seventy six men, seventy
Speaker 4: six women getting these special commemorations very very important for
Speaker 4: the king.
Speaker 1: Of course, on Maundy.
Speaker 4: Thursday, we're going to see the Royal family out in force.
Speaker 4: On Easter Sunday as well, Windsor Castle. But the family
Speaker 4: we won't be seeing are the Prince and Princess Wales
Speaker 4: and their three children.
Speaker 1: They've decided to sort of had a bit of.
Speaker 4: A longer Easter holiday at their home in Norfolk, and
Speaker 4: I think that's fair enough. You know, they've been through
Speaker 4: an awful lot as a family. You know, William dig
Speaker 4: check in with the King ahead of time about whether
Speaker 4: this will be okay. Of course he's given it his
Speaker 4: blessing and very much. You know, his message, as you said,
Speaker 4: was about faith, love and hope, and I think they've
Speaker 4: needed that in abundance of course, the King and the
Speaker 4: Princess of Wells both going through their cancer battles over
Speaker 4: the last year year and a half. Very very much
Speaker 4: that lovely message incorporating what the family are about.
Speaker 2: And Russell, I think the break comes at a good
Speaker 2: time for the family. We know that the King had
Speaker 2: a very short stay in hospital a few weeks back.
Speaker 2: He has traveled a lot. Will they also be taking
Speaker 2: a little bit of time just to take it easy
Speaker 2: for a few days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: I mean this is a time of kicking up your
Speaker 4: heels and trying to get it away from work for
Speaker 4: a few days, isn't it. And I think the King
Speaker 4: is very much of that motion as well, because it
Speaker 4: has been a busy period. I was just in Italy
Speaker 4: with him just a couple of weeks ago, and that
Speaker 4: was a full on schedule. Even though they'd taken out
Speaker 4: the Vatican part of the state visit, it was still
Speaker 4: very very full on, and I think we forget, you know,
Speaker 4: Camiller is seventy seven, he's seventy six, and they're still
Speaker 4: carrying on a very very busy schedule. Indeed, so I
Speaker 4: don't think there's any in terms of letting up for
Speaker 4: the King, but certainly I think it will be a
Speaker 4: chance to get the family together have a bit of
Speaker 4: rest and recuperation over the holidays.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: So well, we've spoken several times on this show about
Speaker 2: the upcoming visit between the King and US President Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: What's the update. Well, it's really interesting.
Speaker 4: It's a story this week in the UK Telegraph about
Speaker 4: that it's being underlined between the two teams. There's certainly
Speaker 4: discussions are carrying on at pace. And then Trump was
Speaker 4: in the White House and he gave chapter and verse
Speaker 4: on it. He said the two teams are working on
Speaker 4: the palettes and the White House. Of course, the foreign
Speaker 4: offices will be involved as well, and he said it's
Speaker 4: going to be lightly four September. What we don't know yet,
Speaker 4: which is a bit of a gray area, as whether
Speaker 4: this is going to be a full pomp and pageantry
Speaker 4: state visit. My understanding was that it wasn't going to be.
Speaker 4: It was sort of an invitation for Trump to go
Speaker 4: over a sort of a freecursor to a potential state
Speaker 4: visit next year. But Trump seems to have got carried
Speaker 4: away as he normally does, and.
Speaker 1: He's saying, Oh, it's going to be a great fest.
Speaker 1: It's going to have all the pomp and pageantry. It's unprecedented,
Speaker 1: as of.
Speaker 4: Course it is for a for a prime a president
Speaker 4: to have a second stage visit. So whether we see
Speaker 4: the full chabang for him in September remains to be seen.
Speaker 4: But it looks like he will be coming across these
Speaker 4: shores in the not too distant future.
Speaker 2: Oh, there will be plenty more to talk about in
Speaker 2: the lead up to that, I'm sure now. Back in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, King Charles made a speech known as
Speaker 2: the Monstrous Carbuncle Speech about the state of British architecture
Speaker 2: here it.
Speaker 3: Is I would understand better.
Speaker 5: If you're demublish the whole of the square and started
Speaker 5: again the single art.
Speaker 1: But what is from parents seems to me like a
Speaker 1: monstrous carver on the basin of Mushaller elevent freeth and.
Speaker 2: A great hat tip to the King by Clive Aslet
Speaker 2: this week in the UK Telegraph ahead of the relates
Speaker 2: to his new book on the First and May. Now Russell,
Speaker 2: we know the King loves architecture, but how much influences
Speaker 2: he had over recent years.
Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting looking back at those speeches because I
Speaker 4: often think about his speeches that he made of about
Speaker 4: climate change and how he was ridiculed at the time,
Speaker 4: and this was pretty punchy. If he's talking about British
Speaker 4: architecture had not been attuned to the values of old
Speaker 4: and he's really had that within his hearted thing. You
Speaker 4: look at the state of Palmbury in England, how he
Speaker 4: was really a forward thinker in that and trying to
Speaker 4: get to people to think about architecture, appreciate their towns
Speaker 4: and cities once again. And what he's done at Dumfries
Speaker 4: House as well is really tune into traditional crafts, and
Speaker 4: he's had a lot of money put in to Dumfries House,
Speaker 4: saving those traditional crafts, educating the new batch of traditional
Speaker 4: craft makers, and.
Speaker 1: That's been really really important for our culture.
Speaker 4: And that's what he wants to try and preserve the
Speaker 4: heritage of not only architecture, but of spirit as well.
Speaker 1: And certainly I think many people are benefiting of that.
Speaker 2: I'm a massive nerd, and I just think it is
Speaker 2: such a good point of advocacy. I think he has
Speaker 2: done a fabulous job in that regard. Now it's been
Speaker 2: reported this week that Meghan has sent apparently a pace
Speaker 2: offering to the King in the form of her as
Speaker 2: ever products.
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Well, I saw this story, to be honest, I can't
Speaker 1: quite believe it.
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to verify it myself, and I
Speaker 4: think that'd be extraordinary because look at the relations of
Speaker 4: the two families. I mean, it's not got any better
Speaker 4: in recent months. I think this heat has been taken
Speaker 4: out of the relations because of Obviously, Harry and Meghan
Speaker 4: had the propensity to be going on TV shows, talking
Speaker 4: to Open Winfrey of calls, the Netflix series, Harry's book.
Speaker 1: I could go on and on couldn't.
Speaker 4: I but in terms of your peace offerings, I don't
Speaker 4: think we're there yet. I mean, look at Harry has
Speaker 4: been in the UK several times over the last fourte
Speaker 4: months and hasn't even seen his father. I mean that
Speaker 4: is absolutely extraordinary. He was here for his recent call
Speaker 4: cases a couple of weeks ago against the British government
Speaker 4: to do with his security and still didn't get to
Speaker 4: see the King. So I'm not sure a hamper full
Speaker 4: of jam and biscuits and creps will smooth over relations
Speaker 4: just at this point.
Speaker 2: No, I think it probably needs a little bit more.
Speaker 2: But you did mention Harry's book and another big claim
Speaker 2: in the media this week he said Harry is considering
Speaker 2: a secret to his Memoi spare, focusing on his legal
Speaker 2: battle for security and having a crack at the royal
Speaker 2: family for not helping him. Is there anything in this.
Speaker 4: Well, I certainly I understand that he is happy that
Speaker 4: his father hasn't got involved. Of course, it's an absolutely
Speaker 4: extraordinary situation, and that Harry is taking to court his
Speaker 4: Majesty's government and in the government that's of his under
Speaker 4: his father's name. It's a truly extraordinary set of events. However,
Speaker 4: whether Harry wins this appeal, it may as me see,
Speaker 4: I imagine we'll find out in the next few weeks.
Speaker 4: But he's not letting up, and he said himself that
Speaker 4: he had enough material for two books when he was
Speaker 4: writing Spare, So it is always the sort of sword
Speaker 4: of Damantle's hanging over the royal family and the palaces.
Speaker 1: Will he sort of put pen to paper again?
Speaker 4: You know that the first book was widely received, it
Speaker 4: was a bestseller, you know, and Harry and Meghan still
Speaker 4: need to earn a lot of money, So if he
Speaker 4: has that in his back pocket, I think it's still
Speaker 4: something that he could use in the future. Or does
Speaker 4: he value greater relations with his family if his father,
Speaker 4: you know, he's still continuing cancer treatment and he's still
Speaker 4: falling out with his brother. You know, it does seem
Speaker 4: a bit of a shame sometimes that they've let all
Speaker 4: this time go without repairing stuff.
Speaker 2: Indeed, and still on the security front, although in slightly
Speaker 2: a different vein we understand they're a new flight restrictions
Speaker 2: over Sandringham.
Speaker 4: What's the story here, Well, this is very interesting because
Speaker 4: it came on the back of presidents and Lenskiv Ukraine's
Speaker 4: visit to the King at Sandringham. He's a country of
Speaker 4: state in Norfolk, and there was some drones flying overhead
Speaker 4: and it must have you would assume that royal palaces
Speaker 4: or royal residencies would have these knife no flight zones,
Speaker 4: but Sundringham definitely didn't. So in order to stop that
Speaker 4: from happening in the past, there has essentially been a
Speaker 4: no fly zone put into place. It was requested just
Speaker 4: a few days after President Zelenski visited the King last month.
Speaker 4: That came into force on March tenth, so it will
Speaker 4: be essentially no planes, no drones, nobody flying any light
Speaker 4: aircraft over the palaces as a security issue, and you
Speaker 4: can imagine why that has been put in place.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and very timely. Rustamiz, thank you so much. And
Speaker 2: that's the show for tonight. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: Up next is Newsnight.