Speaker 1: You don't always have to follow the path that you
Speaker 1: think is set few and what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 1: If you feel like smashing someone in Mario Cart's going
Speaker 1: to make you feel better, go for it.
Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just about what works for you, because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, weird works if it makes you well,
Speaker 1: and we are all a little bit weird, So try
Speaker 1: something different. Hello, Legends today's episode, I feel like my
Speaker 1: friends need to be listening to you right now, because
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. I feel like everyone
Speaker 1: I talk to you lately, everyone is just going through
Speaker 1: it right now. I don't know if mercury is in
Speaker 1: the microwave again, but I just feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of people, like honestly some of my best mates, everyone
Speaker 1: is going through a really tough time at the moment.
Speaker 1: And I think this episode is very, very well timed
Speaker 1: because as someone I've suffered with anxiety in my whole life,
Speaker 1: and I you know, in the past, I would shame
Speaker 1: myself into stillness and I would literally try to meingir
Speaker 1: my way into meditating, and it really does defeat the purpose.
Speaker 2: If you're someone like me, when you're stressed or anxious.
Speaker 1: You can't physically sit down and meditate like you couldn't
Speaker 1: if anything worse, And all the other ways that people
Speaker 1: are trying to tell you to work on your mental
Speaker 1: health just don't work for you. This episode is going
Speaker 1: to save your life, and it's also going to make
Speaker 1: you realize.
Speaker 2: You're not broken, you're not weird. We're all just so different. Look.
Speaker 1: I've been working on, you know, personal growth and everything
Speaker 1: for a long time, but there was a time where
Speaker 1: I would just force myself to sit there and meditate
Speaker 1: when it just did not feel right for me. And
Speaker 1: that's because I thought that's what healthy people did. I thought,
Speaker 1: this is what everyone's raving about, this meditation thing, Like
Speaker 1: why isn't it working for me? And obviously, over time
Speaker 1: meditation I really looked into it, and the way I
Speaker 1: do it is going to be different from other people.
Speaker 1: But a lot of my problem with it was the
Speaker 1: pressure I was putting on myself. I thought my brain
Speaker 1: had to be blank, but apparently it doesn't, which is
Speaker 1: great to know. That's an episode for another time, But
Speaker 1: you know, I genuinely thought if I could just like
Speaker 1: be breathing deeply enough and like sit on the floor
Speaker 1: long enough, I would just become zen and my anxiety
Speaker 1: would disappear. And sure, like with that can help. But
Speaker 1: I remember there was this one day where I was
Speaker 1: just so highly strung, I was so anxious, and I
Speaker 1: tried to sit down and meditate and I just wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling it, and I stopped the track. I got up,
Speaker 1: and I decluttered a drawer and I felt so much better.
Speaker 1: You know, for many of us with anxious minds, we
Speaker 1: need to move that energy. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there's this big misconception of what you know, mindfulness.
Speaker 2: Looks like that it has to be still, you have.
Speaker 1: To not be moving, you have to have a blank mind,
Speaker 1: and that's just not the truth, and that's not the
Speaker 1: reality of it. Sometimes listening to a woman on YouTube
Speaker 1: saying release what no longer serves you doesn't service as
Speaker 1: well as maybe playing guitar or playing Mario Kart. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that honestly, because for me, over
Speaker 1: the years, I've just stopped fighting. I've stopped fighting and
Speaker 1: this is I'm going to work with my brain and
Speaker 1: not against it.
Speaker 2: So this episode is for you. If you just.
Speaker 1: Have tried every traditional method of mindfulness, you're trying to
Speaker 1: work on your mental health. But for you, you just
Speaker 1: can't think of anything worse than sitting down and meditating
Speaker 1: and worrying about the emails you need to send, the
Speaker 1: lunch boxes you still have to pack, and you just
Speaker 1: need to try something different. This is for you, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to be giving you my seven weird things
Speaker 1: I do for my mental health that you probably won't
Speaker 1: hear in therapy. And again disclaimer, I'm not saying don't
Speaker 1: go to therapy because that is so important, but I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we just need to like realize that the
Speaker 1: way everyone else seems to do it on TikTok isn't
Speaker 1: the way that you need to do.
Speaker 2: It as well.
Speaker 1: And I think with these I actually posted these tips
Speaker 1: a little while ago on Instagram and they went off,
Speaker 1: and I think for me, I wouldn't have posted something
Speaker 1: like that years ago.
Speaker 2: But the older I get, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm realizing that maybe mental health isn't forcing yourself
Speaker 1: into routines that look good online. Maybe it's about understanding
Speaker 1: your brain and instead of constantly trying to fight it,
Speaker 1: you just do the little things that you know to
Speaker 1: the outside world look odd, like sitting in your car
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes after drop off. But if you feel
Speaker 1: lighter afterwards, then do the thing. And to help back
Speaker 1: up my claims these weird systems and habits, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be sharing the science behind some of them as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually not insane and I actually do have
Speaker 1: a valid argument over here. I think, just like with
Speaker 1: health and fitness, we've just been sold this version of
Speaker 1: mindfulness and mental health that looks beautiful on the outside,
Speaker 1: but it also feels impossible in real life, because honestly,
Speaker 1: my nervous system has been more healed by playing Mario
Speaker 1: Karte and guitar than you know meditation ever has on
Speaker 1: a hard day. Look, I think the sooner you realize
Speaker 1: self care isn't always about bubble baths or touching grass,
Speaker 1: which are also great and very good for you, Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's muting your group chats and reorganizing the spicetraw.
Speaker 2: Not speaking from experience or anything. But before I.
Speaker 1: Get into it, a little life update now. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, when the moment you decide you want to
Speaker 1: become a mum and have children, you tend to think
Speaker 1: of like the baby stage. You don't really think about,
Speaker 1: you know, as they get older, and it really is true,
Speaker 1: like I'm starting to understand the saying little people, little problems,
Speaker 1: big people, big problems. And you know my girls now
Speaker 1: they're eight and ten and they're just their own little
Speaker 1: people and they literally actually I brought them into work today,
Speaker 1: so they came into the studio here at Nova, and
Speaker 1: I really would love to interview.
Speaker 2: Them one day.
Speaker 1: I think it would be really funny, and I know
Speaker 1: they would definitely out me on a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but I think they would help us get a bit
Speaker 1: of a reality check as well, because you know, the
Speaker 1: way kids view the world, it's much more simple and
Speaker 1: they can actually see.
Speaker 2: The solution to a lot of our problems.
Speaker 1: Like, for example, one of the girls said to me
Speaker 1: the other day, like, Mum, why are always so stressed
Speaker 1: about the washing and the cleaning. I said, oh, because
Speaker 1: like it needs like I have to do it, and
Speaker 1: it's like it just Mummy always has to do those things.
Speaker 1: And they said to me, but there's always got to
Speaker 1: be more to do, and I was like, that's right.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards when I felt a bit more defeated
Speaker 1: after hearing that, and then she turned to me and said,
Speaker 1: remember that your nance said to you that time. If
Speaker 1: you can't control it, don't worry about it. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's so true, Like you're never going to get to
Speaker 1: the end of your emails, You're never going to get
Speaker 1: the end of your to do list, you never unfortunately
Speaker 1: going to ever finish your cleaning and washing.
Speaker 2: So the more I'm.
Speaker 1: Stressing about a task that just doesn't that has to
Speaker 1: be done each day, it's just like energy wasted.
Speaker 2: And that really did give me a bit of a
Speaker 2: brutal wake up call as well.
Speaker 1: Speaking of one of the girls, which obviously I'm not
Speaker 1: going to name, who has been, you know, struggling with
Speaker 1: a bit of anxiety lately, and as myself, like I
Speaker 1: remember being in kindergarten and having anxiety attacks over going
Speaker 1: to your six Like I really really hoped that the
Speaker 1: kids wouldn't have to deal with the level anxiety that
Speaker 1: I have. But you know, genetics and things, but it
Speaker 1: can feel a little bit defeating sometimes, like when you
Speaker 1: know you'd think someone like myself, I've had anxiety in
Speaker 1: my whole life.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of work on myself.
Speaker 1: I'm literally on a podcast like I'm at Nova with
Speaker 1: my podcast talking about mental health hacks. And here I
Speaker 1: am really struggling to help my own child with her anxiety,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, we might not have all
Speaker 1: the answers, but just having being like that soft place
Speaker 1: for them to land is the most important thing. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into parenting and all that
Speaker 1: stuff right now, but I think we need to do
Speaker 1: the same for ourselves. We might not always have the
Speaker 1: answer to our issues or our problems, but as long
Speaker 1: as we are gentle enough with ourselves to just let
Speaker 1: it out and let it be. And that a lot
Speaker 1: of the time, like think about you know, the times
Speaker 1: that you maybe go to someone with an issue. And
Speaker 1: I know, like a lot of people's partners and husbands
Speaker 1: and that. And I'm not being sexist, but men typically
Speaker 1: tend to be fixers. They just want to fix things,
Speaker 1: whereas as women, we tend to want people just to listen.
Speaker 1: We want to just offload. And that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of relationships can have, like some struggles because the woman
Speaker 1: just wants to talk it out and the man wants
Speaker 1: to fix. And then I found myself as a mum
Speaker 1: doing that to my kids with their anxiety, Like I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's try this, but like if I could just listen
Speaker 1: and I let them have their say and like validate
Speaker 1: them and say like, oh that would be really hard,
Speaker 1: that really did help them move it out of their
Speaker 1: nervous system. So it's the same with us. And a
Speaker 1: lot of these points do relate back to that that
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't have to force ourselves to be still
Speaker 1: or find the answer. We just need to move the
Speaker 1: energy out of our body and have somewhere that maybe
Speaker 1: someone can just listen and validate us if we need that.
Speaker 1: And I've got a literally very important and you need
Speaker 1: to stay to the end of this episode because that
Speaker 1: one specifically is one of the biggest ones. And I
Speaker 1: have a very important hack and tip that you need
Speaker 1: to do with that, so you're not always going to
Speaker 1: people for that, and it's actually going to be more
Speaker 1: beneficial for you. And I'm not saying not to talk
Speaker 1: to people, but you just need to stay to the
Speaker 1: end to hear what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the weird.
Speaker 1: Shit I do for my mental health and my nervous system.
Speaker 1: But first I want to hit you with something I
Speaker 1: wish I realized a long time ago, and that is
Speaker 1: why we are all quite on edge, overwhelmed, anxious, Like
Speaker 1: when you think about it, you know, many people we
Speaker 1: know they have some form of anxiety or mental health issues,
Speaker 1: and when you think about it, we kind of don't
Speaker 1: have it, like much of a chance of not having it.
Speaker 1: You know, we live in a modern life where like
Speaker 1: our modern world is wrecking havoc.
Speaker 2: On our nervous system.
Speaker 1: And there was a study done It says the average
Speaker 1: woman has between six thousand and sixty thousand thoughts a day,
Speaker 1: and most of them are repetitive, and most of them
Speaker 1: are stressful. And also women are two times more likely
Speaker 1: than men to be diagnosed with anxiety and ADHD, and
Speaker 1: women are also, as we know, massively undiagnosed because we
Speaker 1: present differently. Now I'm not like, I know, everyone's got
Speaker 1: different opinions on this. I was diagnosed with my ADHD
Speaker 1: when I was six, so I kind of knew that
Speaker 1: I couldn't concentrate in things like that, but I didn't
Speaker 1: get a whole lot of help with it, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, Like I got the diagnosis, but I
Speaker 1: didn't really get the tools to help me. But now
Speaker 1: like there's all these women who were finding out, Oh
Speaker 1: my God, I've got ADHD and this makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: Why I've got like, you know, there's like a a
Speaker 1: million different thoughts going on at once, and why I
Speaker 1: can't start tasks and why I can't concentrate, and you
Speaker 1: just feel like you're just you've lived your life feeling different.
Speaker 1: But there's so many of us. And it also doesn't
Speaker 1: help that, you know, smartphone notifications literally will spark our
Speaker 1: cortisol and we're always with our smartphone, we always have
Speaker 1: our phone on us, and you know, researchers actually measured
Speaker 1: it that every notification is a micro stress response in
Speaker 1: our body to process like our brain every time our
Speaker 1: phone goes off, it's like our brain thinks we're going
Speaker 1: to be eaten by tiger, not that we need to
Speaker 1: reply to an email. So here's the thing that finally
Speaker 1: clicked for me is that it's not that I was
Speaker 1: weak or that I didn't have the willpower to sit
Speaker 1: still and do the things. It's that my nervous system
Speaker 1: was running on the wrong settings for the life.
Speaker 2: I was living.
Speaker 1: So for me especially and women like me, when we
Speaker 1: have our smartphones on all the time and having like
Speaker 1: all these access to ourselves, which is I'm going to
Speaker 1: go into my my rules in a minute. You were
Speaker 1: literally putting gasoline on the fire. We're not going to
Speaker 1: do that anymore. And it's going to make sense very soon.
Speaker 1: And again I disclaim, I'm not a therapist. I'm just
Speaker 1: a woman who has lived a life of different.
Speaker 2: Mental health issues. I have ADHD.
Speaker 1: I'm a hot mess, and I'm here to help you,
Speaker 1: to tell you what helped me. But of course I
Speaker 1: never would recommend doing these things like in place of therapy.
Speaker 1: Therapy is so important. I go to therapy and I
Speaker 1: have for a long time. But I think this is
Speaker 1: just a bit more about giving yourself permission to try
Speaker 1: different things and talk to your therapists about these things
Speaker 1: as well. All right, The first one is my phone
Speaker 1: has been on silent for six years. You know how
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to hit rock bottom in order to
Speaker 1: make changes in your life. Well, this is kind of
Speaker 1: what happened with me when I first turned my phone
Speaker 1: on silent six years ago. I had started SPP and
Speaker 1: it was running for a couple of years. By that point,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, amazing, it was thriving. I didn't
Speaker 1: expect it to become what it is now. If you
Speaker 1: guys are knew here. I run my own brand called
Speaker 1: staff Based Planners. I make planners for messy minds and
Speaker 1: the type B girlies of the world who have a
Speaker 1: brain that wants to be Type A because you need
Speaker 1: to be organized because you get anxious, but your actions
Speaker 1: are Type B.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty much my thing.
Speaker 1: So it was dinner time and the girls were little,
Speaker 1: so I had Harper was a toddler, Whill there was baby.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to cook dinner. Harper was crying.
Speaker 1: I was replying, I was fixing someone's Shopify order, and
Speaker 1: then I was doing emails at the same time.
Speaker 2: And I suddenly, amongst all.
Speaker 1: That I was trying to help Harper and do all
Speaker 1: the things, my phone went off with an email and
Speaker 1: I just burst into tears. I just felt like I
Speaker 1: was in a pressure cooker, and I just knew that
Speaker 1: if there was one more thing, I was going to explode,
Speaker 1: and that thing was an email notification. I just felt
Speaker 1: in oudequate, like I just couldn't keep up. I just
Speaker 1: constantly felt like I was chasing my tail. And I
Speaker 1: placed Willow down and I looked at the scene in
Speaker 1: front of me. There was a washing basket that I
Speaker 1: had been folding fifteen minutes just beforehand.
Speaker 2: The dinner's on.
Speaker 1: The stove, I've got the two little kids. I've got
Speaker 1: my phone still going off. I've got my laptop open
Speaker 1: up on Shopify. And then my phone went off again,
Speaker 1: and I went over to it, and I went into
Speaker 1: settings and I turned off my email notification and I
Speaker 1: turned it on silent, and I haven't turned it back
Speaker 1: on since.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I will go into this a bit more because you're
Speaker 1: probably thinking, what about the kids' school, what about emergencies.
Speaker 1: We'll go into that in a second. But that was
Speaker 1: the day I realized that every notification, like I said,
Speaker 1: was like a little fire going off in my brain.
Speaker 1: I was always accessible. And what's hard is especially with kids.
Speaker 1: And that's what worries me about social media with the
Speaker 1: kids is they don't have an off switch either. They
Speaker 1: go to school and maybe there's bullies, and they bring
Speaker 1: the bullies home with them in their phone in their pocket.
Speaker 2: And that they don't get They don't get a break
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 1: They don't get a break from maybe masking all day
Speaker 1: or putting on a front. Even if you have ADHD
Speaker 1: or you don't like you're always do. It's technically we're performing.
Speaker 1: Think about how you act with like your family versus
Speaker 1: your friends, or your you know, people at work versus
Speaker 1: someone you've just met, Like you always kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you're kind of performing in a way, and that's
Speaker 1: exhausting over time, So you do need that time to
Speaker 1: switch off.
Speaker 2: And we're not humans.
Speaker 1: We're not meant to be accessible twenty four seven, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not how we were meant to be. We were
Speaker 1: meant to be in our little village with two hundred people,
Speaker 1: and we were not meant to have a phone with millions,
Speaker 1: millions and billions of people, and most of them are
Speaker 1: hot because they're genetically blessed, and we see them all
Speaker 1: and then we feel inadequate. We're not meant to have
Speaker 1: access to that many people. You know, I was living
Speaker 1: in a state where by nine o'clock in the morning
Speaker 1: I had already gotten forty notifications because you know, I
Speaker 1: had the shop, I had so many things going on.
Speaker 2: And that was me with a business.
Speaker 1: But even without a business, think about all the different
Speaker 1: notifications your phone gives you. It's a lot you need to,
Speaker 1: like think about how much you need to protect your
Speaker 1: peace and that is not protecting your peace. Is it
Speaker 1: really that urgent that you need to apply to an
Speaker 1: email that is a you know, the school's fundraiser in
Speaker 1: two weeks at nine pm at night.
Speaker 2: That can wait.
Speaker 1: The thing is this is where I started to live
Speaker 1: by the saying their urgency is not your emergency. Unless
Speaker 1: you're a doctor saving lives, you do not need to
Speaker 1: like be on call.
Speaker 2: All the time. So what I want you to do.
Speaker 1: Our phones have settings in them where even if people
Speaker 1: call you twice, if there is an emergency and they
Speaker 1: call you twice, it will actually ring through.
Speaker 2: There is settings for that. You can do so much now.
Speaker 1: You can make sure your kids school that always comes through.
Speaker 1: You can set focus modes for work so from nine
Speaker 1: to five you have your certain notifications on. People can
Speaker 1: call you and then it goes off automatically so you
Speaker 1: don't have to think about it. Nothing is that urgent
Speaker 1: when you think about it, there is nothing that could
Speaker 1: possibly be that urgent. You know, and people might panic,
Speaker 1: think like what if I miss something? You know, you
Speaker 1: check your phone. You can check your phone, and I
Speaker 1: know I think I did. I think I did a
Speaker 1: tech dtox. I think it was like a tech dtox
Speaker 1: blog or something thing ages ago, and I said, any
Speaker 1: emails that are older than three months, just archive all
Speaker 1: of them. And people were like, oh my god, whates
Speaker 1: if I can't like ones if I need something, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can still search them, you know. Like I think
Speaker 1: we're just so used to being on and we're so
Speaker 1: heightened that everything feels much bigger than what it is. Again,
Speaker 1: if someone needs you, they can call twice. If you're
Speaker 1: scared you're going to miss something, you can check your
Speaker 1: phone like no one's taking it away from you. And
Speaker 1: this is where I, you know, really implemented some pretty
Speaker 1: strict rules. And then even within my business in SPP,
Speaker 1: like with marketing and stuff.
Speaker 2: Guys, the e commerce world is wild.
Speaker 1: You have so much going on, but you know, the team,
Speaker 1: we're all emailing each other, and it was just like
Speaker 1: a larger effort because I feel like an email there
Speaker 1: comes a certain expectation to be like, say certain things,
Speaker 1: you have to greet each other. So then what I
Speaker 1: did was and so we had proper trails. I set
Speaker 1: a hard rule within the company that everyone has to
Speaker 1: only use Slack. So Slack is like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like an instant messaging thing, but like business, but it's
Speaker 1: much better and it's much more informal. It's small, chill
Speaker 1: and anything internal now is through slack and it has
Speaker 1: been for years, and that just saved the abundance of emails.
Speaker 1: So emails are for external communication. Slack is internal. And
Speaker 1: that was the hard rule I said, and I've never
Speaker 1: looked back, and now you need to kind of view it.
Speaker 1: Your life is the same. External communication you need to
Speaker 1: have a hard rule. Internal communication is people who actually
Speaker 1: live in your house that you're together. The internal communication
Speaker 1: needs to be the focus for you. And even then
Speaker 1: you still are allowed to hide, which i'll go into
Speaker 1: an a minute.
Speaker 2: So what I want you.
Speaker 1: To do right now, which I know it sounds scary.
Speaker 1: I want you to pull out your phone and go
Speaker 1: to settings. So this is for iPhones. I want you to
Speaker 1: go to settings and then you're going to go to
Speaker 1: your focus modes. So you're gonna go to focus and
Speaker 1: then you can click on like personal or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and then you can click this thing now that it's
Speaker 1: called intelligent breakthrough and silencing. So when it's active, it
Speaker 1: allows priority notifications to interrupt you and silence other ones.
Speaker 1: But you can also pick these. You can also I
Speaker 1: pick certain people that can always come through and call you.
Speaker 1: And there's also settings in there where you can make
Speaker 1: sure that if they ring.
Speaker 2: Twice, it comes through.
Speaker 1: And even like in terms of for me, I used
Speaker 1: to always sleep with my phone next to my bed,
Speaker 1: which admittedly I hadn't been doing that again.
Speaker 2: But you know, when you're asleep, everyone puts.
Speaker 1: Their phone on night mode or silent, you know, or
Speaker 1: do not disturb and you're not worried then, but emergencies
Speaker 1: can happen during the night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But just remember, like you've got the choice, and you've
Speaker 1: got so much cool settings in your phone where you
Speaker 1: can activate that. So I want you to go to
Speaker 1: settings and go to focus and now we're going to
Speaker 1: go into our focus filters so you can actually add
Speaker 1: app focuses and things like that. And there's now there's
Speaker 1: like AI and stuff in our phone, so it actually
Speaker 1: can do it for us. But you can even set
Speaker 1: a schedule for a location. So I've got one where
Speaker 1: it turns my personal focus mode on when I arrive home,
Speaker 1: and that means only certain people can contact me. I
Speaker 1: only get certain notifications like I don't get email notifications.
Speaker 1: I actually turned my email note vacations off my phone altogether,
Speaker 1: which I'll get into later. And it's all automated, Like
Speaker 1: you don't have to think. You can just do these
Speaker 1: things and set you know, you can even have one
Speaker 1: for like a morning routine. So I've got a morning
Speaker 1: routine focus mode where I can only access certain apps,
Speaker 1: so I can access like my meditation app, I can
Speaker 1: access all this other stuff like Spotify and that. And
Speaker 1: because obviously in this episode I'm going to talk, it
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm ragging on meditation a lot. But meditation
Speaker 1: is great, but you just need to find the one
Speaker 1: that works for you. So I can do another episode
Speaker 1: on that. But it only allows me to look at
Speaker 1: certain things, so I'm not like scrolling Instagram like allows
Speaker 1: me to go on like substack and stuff. But you
Speaker 1: can do so much now. So if you do one
Speaker 1: take one thing from this episode, I want you to
Speaker 1: hop into your phone settings and just block off yourself
Speaker 1: from the world. It's going to be fine. And this
Speaker 1: is linked to my next weird thing I do for
Speaker 1: my mental health, which is I rarely reply straight away.
Speaker 1: Now look, I won't see her and pretend that this
Speaker 1: is all on purpose. Again, I have ADHD. I forget
Speaker 1: to to pretty much everyone. I'm terrible, but remember their
Speaker 1: urgency is not your emergency. That is our new slogan
Speaker 1: for life like And since I turn my email notifications
Speaker 1: off my phone because hey, when I actually want to
Speaker 1: be intentional and do my work, I'll be on my
Speaker 1: laptop anyway. That's when I'm going to be able to
Speaker 1: write the best replies and actually understand. Like half the time,
Speaker 1: i'd be reading emails at midnight and I don't even
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about. And I remember my cousin,
Speaker 1: My cousin, Sammy, you still work with me at SPP,
Speaker 1: And she'd always say to me, Steph, you only reply
Speaker 1: to half the questions in my email, and that's because
Speaker 1: I wasn't bloody paying attention. I know that sounds really
Speaker 1: bad and I should be more professional, but I'm also like,
Speaker 1: it's families, okay, But you need to be more intentional
Speaker 1: with your time and where you're putting your time. Research
Speaker 1: actually shows that every distraction, every time, like you're focused
Speaker 1: on a task and you get pulled away by a notification,
Speaker 1: by a little human, by anything, it takes you thirty
Speaker 1: minutes to refocus. So every time your phone goes off,
Speaker 1: every time your kids come in and you get into erupted,
Speaker 1: you were wasting thirty minutes. So imagine if you get
Speaker 1: a couple of those, that's like hours a day is gone.
Speaker 1: So now what I do in terms of my emails
Speaker 1: and communications with the outside world, I have two windows
Speaker 1: a day. I have one in the late morning because
Speaker 1: for me, when I wake up and I'm sitting down
Speaker 1: to work, I need to do the hard thing first,
Speaker 1: and that's when my brain is at its best. So
Speaker 1: you bet I'm not wasting that time, that power hour
Speaker 1: on emails. And I honestly recommend everyone does the same.
Speaker 1: So late morning I'll do an email check, do my comms, check,
Speaker 1: reply to things, and then I do it again in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. Some days I'll do it once a day
Speaker 1: because again, I'm not saving lives here, I'm really not
Speaker 1: saving lives. And you can group all your coms together
Speaker 1: for these two parts of the day. You can do
Speaker 1: your text messages, you can do your emails, you can
Speaker 1: do your slack, you can.
Speaker 2: Check your kids like school thing. It can be like
Speaker 2: your full.
Speaker 1: Comms like thirty minutes, you know, and By batching the
Speaker 1: tasks that are similar together, it's going to make it
Speaker 1: a lot easier for your brain. Because if we're doing
Speaker 1: something a bit more creative or like we're cleaning and
Speaker 1: then we're trying to do emails, we're task switching constantly,
Speaker 1: and that is a lot of pressure on my brain
Speaker 1: and we're not going to do it well. So be
Speaker 1: more intentional by time batching, and that in itself, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a productivity hack, but it's also like a mental
Speaker 1: health hack. Is batching like items together. Do you addmin
Speaker 1: in one section, If you need to do creative stuff,
Speaker 1: do that in another section. If you need to clean,
Speaker 1: do that in another section. That's why, like even now
Speaker 1: when I'm creating my social media posts, when you're making
Speaker 1: a post, there's a lot of phases, like you got
Speaker 1: to do the right like you got to do the ideas,
Speaker 1: You've got to write it, then you got to like
Speaker 1: maybe take photos or film it, and then you've got
Speaker 1: to edit it, and then you got to do the caption.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of different phases.
Speaker 1: And I used to try to make myself do all
Speaker 1: of them together, but then I started batching them, so
Speaker 1: I'd write all the content for the week in one slot,
Speaker 1: and then I would do the filming for it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then it just was like
Speaker 1: so much easier on my brain. But by doing this
Speaker 1: it gives me a sense of control because you know,
Speaker 1: usually with our mental health, we feel pretty helpless at
Speaker 1: times that we can't fix it or we can't change it,
Speaker 1: we can't control it. But what can we control. We
Speaker 1: can control when we are accessible. We are in control
Speaker 1: of when other people can contact us. That is yours
Speaker 1: and that is something that you need to protect so fiercely.
Speaker 1: Moving on to weird thing I do. Number three is
Speaker 1: I wear noise canceling headphones in my own house with
Speaker 1: nothing playing.
Speaker 2: Now it's not because I don't love my family.
Speaker 1: I love them dearly, but they do say the word
Speaker 1: mum too many times a day and they think I
Speaker 1: have the answers for everything in the universe and I
Speaker 1: do not. But I, especially in the afternoon, I get
Speaker 1: over stimulated as hell. And you don't love my family,
Speaker 1: love my children, but they're loud, and they say a
Speaker 1: lot of words that we don't need to say. And look,
Speaker 1: it might make me sound like a bad mum, but look, guys,
Speaker 1: we are getting so much, you know, input from the
Speaker 1: outside world in our body, and that along with technology
Speaker 1: and all the sounds and stuff. It's no wonder why
Speaker 1: we are constantly overstimulated.
Speaker 2: As parents. Think about before kids, I thought I was stressed.
Speaker 2: I was not streng like.
Speaker 1: I look back and I look back at my old
Speaker 1: Facebook statuses of me winging about sleep.
Speaker 2: And I was like, twenty two year old stuff.
Speaker 1: You shut your face, you shut your beautiful, youthful skin,
Speaker 1: you shut your beautiful jewey skinned, youthful face.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, it's just wild.
Speaker 1: And then you become an adult and you have all
Speaker 1: these extra factors that you can't control, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: our sleep and how many times someone.
Speaker 2: Touches you a day, like you just get touched out.
Speaker 1: So if you can reduce the amount of inputs you're
Speaker 1: getting from the outside world, which includes notifications and sounds,
Speaker 1: it's going to help. And there's the science behind this
Speaker 1: is Duke University did a clinical trial and they're doing
Speaker 1: this right now apparently, and they're measuring where the noise
Speaker 1: canceling headphones improve cognitive performance and reduce stressing people with ADHD.
Speaker 1: And there's a board that already recommends them as a
Speaker 1: sensory aid because research already shows that, you know, people
Speaker 1: with ADHD we have a reduced top down control from
Speaker 1: the prefrontal cortex, which means we can't filter background sound
Speaker 1: the way neurotypical brains do. So every sound competes for attention.
Speaker 1: So for us, it's just like everything's turned up twenty
Speaker 1: dollars and it's hard for us to just focus on
Speaker 1: one sound or one conversation. Like I know, for me,
Speaker 1: I used to go into the warehouse five days a week,
Speaker 1: but now I only go a couple because I cannot
Speaker 1: get anything done. I love my team, but the problem
Speaker 1: is me. It's not them, Like I want to know
Speaker 1: where they're talking about. I'll hear them talking, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I'm so distracting. I'm the
Speaker 1: worst boss ever, but I just can't deal. Like I
Speaker 1: can't focus even visually. If if I see something in
Speaker 1: my field of vision, I need to see what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I need to just I'm like a child and
Speaker 1: I have to parent myself. So most of the days
Speaker 1: of the week, I'm locked in my office working with
Speaker 1: my headphones on and look with this, with this headphone hack.
Speaker 1: You don't need expensive Apple ones. You can get really
Speaker 1: cheat ones on like Amazon and things like that. There's
Speaker 1: even actually a brand if you are not wanting your
Speaker 1: if you still know about to hear your kids decently enough,
Speaker 1: there's a brand called like Loop. I think Loop headphone
Speaker 1: like earphones, but basically they lower the volume enough to
Speaker 1: be able to hear your kids still, and they're very discreet.
Speaker 2: They're like clear, so like say, if.
Speaker 1: You don't want to, like maybe your kids don't like
Speaker 1: you wearing headphones or something, or maybe they.
Speaker 2: Get upset about it.
Speaker 1: They're clear, so you wouldn't even know that you're wearing them.
Speaker 1: Or maybe if even in an office or something, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be rude, you can get these clear
Speaker 1: little ear plugs that muffle the sound enough and you
Speaker 1: can do different attachments and things like. It's wild, actually,
Speaker 1: like you are allowed to be in a room without
Speaker 1: being fully available to everything in it and every sound
Speaker 1: in it. Speaking of parenting, this next one I feel
Speaker 1: like every mother does on the planet, and that is
Speaker 1: I sit in my car for two minutes before I
Speaker 1: go inside. You know, when you arrive home after work
Speaker 1: or after school drop off, and you know you're sitting there,
Speaker 1: you turn the engine off and you just start to
Speaker 1: either stare off into the abyss and your eyes just
Speaker 1: feel very relaxed and focused.
Speaker 2: Or you start scrolling.
Speaker 1: You feel like your ass is glued to the seat
Speaker 1: and there's nothing that could be happening in the world
Speaker 1: that's actually going to make you get up out of
Speaker 1: the car and go inside. Now, this is actually a
Speaker 1: core sign that you are overstimulated and your nervous system
Speaker 1: needs some love.
Speaker 2: But there was a time I.
Speaker 1: Remember years ago, I was sitting in the car and
Speaker 1: I realized I was sitting in the car for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes, and I caught myself getting very angry at myself,
Speaker 1: a bit agitated, frustrated that I, you know, didn't get
Speaker 1: up and go inside and do the things. Though then
Speaker 1: I realized if I didn't have my driver's seat solo time,
Speaker 1: I would go back inside to the kids and likely
Speaker 1: be cranky, be overstimulated, and not be showing up as
Speaker 1: a best parent.
Speaker 2: You know, Ryan had to cover it. He was fine.
Speaker 1: So wherever you could just take these micro moments and
Speaker 1: pockets of time where you can just be just take it.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen on Reddit, I actually read some things
Speaker 1: on Reddit because sometimes for these episodes, I like to
Speaker 1: see what other people do if they do similar things
Speaker 1: to me. And there's people that actually, when they like mums,
Speaker 1: will say I need to go get groceries, I'll go
Speaker 1: to the furthest wior worse like book an appointment that's
Speaker 1: far away.
Speaker 2: Althy'll book a fake.
Speaker 1: Appointment, like we shouldn't be having to book fake appointments
Speaker 1: to take time for ourselves.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I've said this before, but it's true, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And there's actually this is actually called a transition
Speaker 1: ritual because your brain doesn't flip between identities instantly, so
Speaker 1: you might be trying to switch from work mode to
Speaker 1: mum mode, and you actually need something to do that,
Speaker 1: and that requires cognitive load, which is basically brain power.
Speaker 1: And without like a buffer and a transition, you will
Speaker 1: go into the next thing, but you're still half loaded
Speaker 1: with the previous role. So you might come inside from work,
Speaker 1: but you're still you're still in like boss mode or
Speaker 1: work mode, and then you might find your shorder with
Speaker 1: the kids and you don't have like you just don't
Speaker 1: have it in you to be like the best.
Speaker 2: Mum right now.
Speaker 1: So let yourself sit in the car. Sit in the car.
Speaker 1: If that means scrolling, do that. You know, if you
Speaker 1: need to look up Chris hemsworth Instagram to perv on
Speaker 1: his photos, you do that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, my stomach just rumbled.
Speaker 1: But here's like a little mini mental health hack that
Speaker 1: you can do before you go inside after your little
Speaker 1: car time. I want you just to set the two
Speaker 1: minute timer where you pull into the driveway. I want
Speaker 1: you to put your phone face down and.
Speaker 2: I just want you to sit there.
Speaker 1: We just want you to like just sit there and
Speaker 1: if your brain's ticking away, just let it. But just
Speaker 1: let yourself have that time without any you know, stimulation,
Speaker 1: anything going on, so that you can then get yourself
Speaker 1: into the next role that you're about to step into.
Speaker 1: Because you know, we all have so many roles in
Speaker 1: our life. We are moms, we are carers, we are wives,
Speaker 1: we have so many things, and we never have like,
Speaker 1: when's the time we're just us? Where is a period
Speaker 1: of time during the day when we are just ourselves
Speaker 1: And that is when we're in the driver seat of
Speaker 1: our car, Because sadly, we don't feel like we're in
Speaker 1: the driver's seat of our life with how busy the
Speaker 1: world is, and we do need to just stop feeling
Speaker 1: guilty and take these moments for ourselves.
Speaker 2: And even science.
Speaker 1: Says the best way to transition over to the next
Speaker 1: role or just regulate is reducing sensory input and also
Speaker 1: give your vegus nerve a moment to reset, so a
Speaker 1: small space that's quiet, even just like ninety seconds just
Speaker 1: to shift over. That is called a micro reset, and
Speaker 1: that's what you need to do more of, just a
Speaker 1: quick pause if any of this stuff is hitting you.
Speaker 1: I go through all of this stuff in my book
Speaker 1: Mastering My Messy Life, and I talk about the Mum Guild.
Speaker 1: I talk about, you know, me becoming a mum for
Speaker 1: the first time and just realizing how I had this
Speaker 1: need for so much control and I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: much it was really affecting my mental health.
Speaker 2: So that's all in my book.
Speaker 1: You can grab it from your favorite bookstore or Amazon
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Now, this next point is kind
Speaker 1: of like a kind of a contradiction from the first,
Speaker 1: but in a different way, and that is I don't
Speaker 1: sit still to calm down.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about always, but a lot of the
Speaker 1: time when we have anxious energy.
Speaker 2: We need to move that now.
Speaker 1: Some people like to move it through being still and
Speaker 1: just like you know, relaxing and zending out. But for me,
Speaker 1: I tend to need to do things.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This is a little bit morbid, but when my dad
Speaker 1: and my Naan passed away, I just felt like I
Speaker 1: was sitting with so much pain. I couldn't bear to
Speaker 1: just sit there because I'd be thinking about everything and
Speaker 1: how much I miss them. So what I did was
Speaker 1: I got really into craft. So I was doing like embroidery.
Speaker 1: I was doing this paint by numbers, which I still
Speaker 1: haven't finished because I've only got the white bits left
Speaker 1: and that's not dope. Meine hitting that sucks. But I
Speaker 1: was doing that, so I had to be doing things.
Speaker 1: I read a lot of books because again it was
Speaker 1: like taking me somewhere else. So that was the only
Speaker 1: time I was probably very still. But when I say
Speaker 1: I don't sit still to calm down, I don't mean
Speaker 1: like I have to be running around sometimes definitely, like
Speaker 1: I'll get into that in a minute, but I need
Speaker 1: to kind of be doing something with my mind now.
Speaker 2: Last year I.
Speaker 1: Started learning to play guitar, and I love that and
Speaker 1: that was a really good one for me to be
Speaker 1: able to be focusing on something that's just fun and
Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with work, nothing to do.
Speaker 2: With life, and it really is the type.
Speaker 1: Of rest I needed. And there is seven types of rest,
Speaker 1: and we need to be making sure we're doing each one,
Speaker 1: you know. And for me also, I love reading, I
Speaker 1: love guitar. I like playing Mario cart things like that
Speaker 1: that I just like. They call it like cozy gaming.
Speaker 1: There's all these cool games, like there's like Animal Crossing
Speaker 1: and things. I bought myself a Nintendo switch that my
Speaker 1: kids literally have stole. They're actually in the green room
Speaker 1: right now and they're playing the Nintendo switches. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my hands do need to move for my brain to
Speaker 1: be quiet. Now other things that need to be moved
Speaker 1: sometimes is offloading our thoughts that brings me to weird
Speaker 1: hack or weird things I do. Number seven and that
Speaker 1: is I put my feelings on paper not people. Now,
Speaker 1: it is so important to have people in your life
Speaker 1: that you trust, that you can confide in. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying don't confide in anyone, don't talk to friends,
Speaker 1: because that is obviously so so important, Like therapy, all
Speaker 1: that stuff like talk therapy is insanely important, but sometimes
Speaker 1: we do need to go inwards. In order for us
Speaker 1: to go outwards, we need to be able to make
Speaker 1: sense of things ourselves. So before I spiral text a
Speaker 1: best friend who's already going through a hard time, or
Speaker 1: you know, offload something to a family member, I do
Speaker 1: open my journal first, because seventy cent of the time
Speaker 1: I just need to offload the thoughts in my head,
Speaker 1: not reply to another message, and also not later feel
Speaker 1: possibly guilty for maybe spiral texting a friend and going
Speaker 1: on a huge rant. Which, look, our friends are there
Speaker 1: for reasons, and they are there for those things, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it is good to just get it out yourself.
Speaker 1: And that also can really help your relationships, like for example,
Speaker 1: you know, as I mentioned before, like sometimes partners they
Speaker 1: like to fix things and you just want to be heard,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. But once you've made sense of like
Speaker 1: your thoughts on paper, you can then really be able
Speaker 1: to be in a state where you can communicate what
Speaker 1: you need from them. And then I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of fights would be avoided between a lot of couples.
Speaker 1: And of course we've got the science. A psychologist from
Speaker 1: the University of Texas has been running expressive writing studies
Speaker 1: since the nineteen eighties, and his research found that just
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty minutes of writing about what you're feeling
Speaker 1: four days in a row measurably reduces stracts, lowers blood pressure,
Speaker 1: and improves immune function. And it also even reduces doctor
Speaker 1: visits for the following six months, which is actually insane.
Speaker 1: That's good because like that shit costs money, and that's
Speaker 1: not journaling about your day. That's not a gratitude list.
Speaker 1: It's just writing the emotional, messy stuff that actually doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense, and it's just circuling in your head. Like
Speaker 1: it's just if you read it or someone else read it,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even know what you're talking about. And that's
Speaker 1: just helping your brain get it out. And that's also
Speaker 1: cognitive offloading, so you're not carrying that mental load around anymore.
Speaker 1: Now here's how to know when to offload onto paper
Speaker 1: versus onto people. So it's paper first when you know
Speaker 1: it's circuling your brain at two am and you feel
Speaker 1: like you're starting to get quite negative and spiraling. It's
Speaker 1: also paper first when you've already told the same friend
Speaker 1: the same thing twice this week. It's a feeling about
Speaker 1: a person that you haven't slept on it yet, so
Speaker 1: you know that's again that can really affect your relationships.
Speaker 1: Maybe your friend said something that didn't sit right with
Speaker 1: you and you're really sitting on it, and instead of
Speaker 1: texting them and just kind of offloading it onto them
Speaker 1: without trying to understand it, first go to paper and
Speaker 1: usually by the morning you'll be feeling much better and
Speaker 1: also clearer away. If they have done something that has
Speaker 1: upset you, you will be able to communicate that much
Speaker 1: more clearly and not in a way that's like attacking them.
Speaker 1: And also turn to paper if you'd feel guilty later
Speaker 1: for dumping it, or you're about to send a text
Speaker 1: that you might regret, So just go to paper first
Speaker 1: with those things. And again, we need people, We need
Speaker 1: people in our life, we need our talk therapy, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it's better just to make sense of it yourself
Speaker 1: on paper. Now, go to people next. When you feel
Speaker 1: like you need a decision, not event. The thing is
Speaker 1: happening to more than just shoe. So something's going on
Speaker 1: and it's happening more than just shue, and you need
Speaker 1: to connect with somebody. Maybe you need to be witnessed
Speaker 1: or not just processed, and your journal already and it's
Speaker 1: making the thing bigger, not smaller, or you just are
Speaker 1: like ready to go to that next step and go
Speaker 1: to people if you need advice or if you just
Speaker 1: want that connection piece as well. Now, what I want
Speaker 1: you to do is I want you to keep a
Speaker 1: little bedside journal next to your bed obviously, and it
Speaker 1: just lives within arm's reach. So when the noise hits
Speaker 1: at night till my brain gets really really busy. So
Speaker 1: instead of going on your phone and scrolling and just
Speaker 1: like pushing it down and pushing it down, You're going
Speaker 1: to want you to let it out and don't worry
Speaker 1: about the spelling, don't worry about like what it looks like.
Speaker 1: If you're worried someone's going to read it, just rip
Speaker 1: it out and throw it in the bin and it's fine.
Speaker 1: And then by the end of it, I want you
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, do I still need to send that text?
Speaker 1: Do I need to still have that conversation? Because we
Speaker 1: need to remember, like paper is just so effective for
Speaker 1: you when your brain is spinning. Which also leads me
Speaker 1: to my last weird thing I do for my mental
Speaker 1: health is when my brain is spinning, I clean one thing. Now,
Speaker 1: have you ever caught yourself rage cleaning? You know when
Speaker 1: you get like maybe you're angry or like you annoyed
Speaker 1: with your family because they live in your house making
Speaker 1: a mess, and you start rage cleaning. And that's because
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of anxious energy you need to move.
Speaker 1: But it's also because you are feeling very much not
Speaker 1: in control of your life. So the thing that you
Speaker 1: can control is your environment. So we start to clean
Speaker 1: the house. Now, now maybe instead of cleaning the whole house, Like, look,
Speaker 1: go for it if you want to, but if I
Speaker 1: do that, I tend to be absolutely wrecked after and
Speaker 1: then I'm cranky.
Speaker 2: So when you start to.
Speaker 1: Feel that energy building up, I want you to pick
Speaker 1: one little thing. It could be a draw, it could
Speaker 1: be the spice rack, and just spend five minutes organizing it.
Speaker 1: Because what you find is you're probably in an overwhelmed phrase.
Speaker 1: It's like when everything feels urgent, so you don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with yourself, so you do something completely
Speaker 1: unrelated and you know at times it's not great for
Speaker 1: work and things, but action leads to more action. It's
Speaker 1: momentum building. You're building momentum by doing the thing. So
Speaker 1: if you go and do something that's unrelated like the spicetraw,
Speaker 1: you're going to see that you've accomplished something from start
Speaker 1: to end, and that's going to build self confidence as well.
Speaker 2: So not only you're getting.
Speaker 1: To move your anxious energy, you're also feeling like an
Speaker 1: accomplishment and an achievement, and you also kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you're in control of something in your life. And
Speaker 1: they actually call this behavioral activation, which is a therapy
Speaker 1: technique which has a massive evidence base for depression and
Speaker 1: overwhelm and it actually is their first line treatment, which
Speaker 1: WHI The research example they use is if clean the
Speaker 1: kitchen feels overwhelming, start with clean the counter. So action
Speaker 1: breaks the freeze and small action breaks it without triggering
Speaker 1: the avoidance response that do the whole thing creates.
Speaker 2: So whenever I've ever talked.
Speaker 1: About decluttering guys or organizing your house, I've always said it.
Speaker 1: I've said this for like nine years now. If you
Speaker 1: want to organize your house or declutter, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to think of the whole house. I want you
Speaker 1: to think of that draw, that table, that surface, and
Speaker 1: this is the exact same thing. Because if you're thinking
Speaker 1: of doing the whole massive house, like the big picture,
Speaker 1: that is overwhelming and you're not going to start anything.
Speaker 2: We don't have Marie Kondo.
Speaker 1: To come to a house and overhaul our house on
Speaker 1: the weekend. This is the same thing. We're breaking it
Speaker 1: up into a small, realistic step that creates movement and
Speaker 1: it creates you know, that dopamine as well. So instead
Speaker 1: of maybe feeling sad, you're suddenly feeling accomplished and that's
Speaker 1: going to move your energy. So when you're feeling frozen,
Speaker 1: I want you to ask yourself, what is the smallest
Speaker 1: thing I can do right now? Don't think what's important,
Speaker 1: what's productive. I want you to just think of something
Speaker 1: like very small that you know you'll feel better about.
Speaker 1: Because when you can't fix the big thing, fix the
Speaker 1: smallest thing, the smallest thing is allowed to count. Now,
Speaker 1: those are the things I do in my life that
Speaker 1: really help me and stop me from spiraling, which I
Speaker 1: still spiral.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, I'm a human.
Speaker 1: But you don't always have to follow the path that
Speaker 1: you think is set for you and what everyone else
Speaker 1: is doing. That's my main message behind this if you
Speaker 1: feel like playing, like smashing someone in mariocart's going to
Speaker 1: make you feel better, go for it.
Speaker 2: There's no right or wrong.
Speaker 1: It's just about what works for you now, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, weird works if it makes
Speaker 1: you well, honestly, and we are all a little bit weird,
Speaker 1: so try something different. So I would love to hear
Speaker 1: like message me on Instagram or like, I love if
Speaker 1: you guys could leave me a review. I would love
Speaker 1: that as well. But let me know out of these
Speaker 1: what really resonated with you and what you're going to
Speaker 1: take away from this episode. Now, to wrap it up,
Speaker 1: I want you to pick one thing from this episode,
Speaker 1: one weird thing for your mental health, whether it is
Speaker 1: chucking on your headphones and ignoring your family or sitting
Speaker 1: in the car, pick one thing, and I would love
Speaker 1: love if you guys could send me a message on
Speaker 1: Instagram or even leave a review.
Speaker 2: It would be awesome. But let me know what you use.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't already, please subscribe to the show
Speaker 1: you were going to want to hear.
Speaker 2: Next week's episode and I will see you then. Bye.