WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 25 March 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.080 Late General, welcome the Late Debate. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.080 Well thanks for joining us on the Late Late Debate. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.160 I'm James Macpherson with this story and Caleb Bond coming 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:16.040 up tonight along with all of the federal budget coverage. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.720 A man in South Australia has been charged with the 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.120 crime of sacrilege. Yes, that's a crime and it carries 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.239 a life sentence. We'll tell you what he's alleged to 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.000 have done a little later when we. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:26.760 Get to the papers. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.120 Of course, how tomorrow's newspapers are reporting on Jim Chalmer's 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.960 budget trigger warning it's not good and an interesting story 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.519 in tomorrow's Can's Post twenty five percent of residents in 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.360 the city arming themselves with machetes and guns to ward 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.360 off youth criminals. We'll get to that a little later, 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.960 but as I said, the big story tonight is the 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.080 federal budget, and of course the headline doing the rounds 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.400 tonight was the shock at tax cuts. I'm still not 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.080 sure whether the shock was that tax cuts were offered 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.160 or that, having been offered, they were so pitiful. But 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.560 before we get to Caleb's run through of Jim Charmer's speech, 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.000 I want to show you a couple of tomorrow's front pages. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.160 The Adelaide Advertiser had a lot of fun with the budget. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.959 They went with the headline Mike Happy meal Jim, because 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.440 of course, the tax cut is just five dollars a week, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.360 which is sorry the Adelaide Advertiser, What did I say, 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:21.480 he says. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.480 The advertiser, your second guess. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.640 The Adelaid advertising I know, Jim. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.480 Chalmers has your second guessing yourself because he promised you 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.360 a tax cut that isn't really a tax cut. But 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:31.720 still learn second gainst. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.360 Yourself after that tax cut. Yeah, I'm second guessing everything. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.160 MC happy meal Jim. They said five. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.759 Dollars a week, the Adelaid advertisers worked out, is enough 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.240 to buy you a McNugget, a six nugget Michappy meal 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.280 once a week, which is sure going to alleviate the 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.440 cost of living crisis. I like what they've done though, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.120 is they've compared the five dollars a week tax cut 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.200 we will get in more than a year from now 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.960 with the fifteen thousand dollars a week the pandas at 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.520 Adelaide Zoo will get from the federal government to keep 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.120 them fed. So if you want to know where the 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.280 government's priorities are there. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.640 You go keeping China's panda bears chovvy to the front 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.120 page of the Daily telling now they got the second 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.760 gong from us. Chalmers grand offer to voters a five 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:20.919 dollars tax cut Jim Pickings, The Splash reads Treasurer Jim 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.240 Charmers has fired the starting gun on the federal election 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.640 with a pitifully small tax cut and deficits as far 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.080 as the eye can see. Of course, everyone's attention is 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.119 on the fact that there is nothing bold in this budget. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.840 It is more of the saying, despite the very thorough 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.640 summarization of this. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.880 Budget that you would have heard if you've been watching 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.320 all day to day. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.799 I think Paul Murray did the best job when he. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.800 Said, this thing reads like someone's assignment that they wrote 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.839 the night it was due. It's very simplistic and it's 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.000 just more of the same case. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.639 And then that's what he said, it was the easiest 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.960 budget he's ever had to analyze. And I kind of 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.960 have to concur with that, because much like the Daily 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.800 Telegraph is saying, you know, this is a budget that 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.600 is the starting gun for the election. Last year, Jim 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.239 Charmers said that that budget last year was a budget 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.079 for the future, and I said at the time, it's 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.280 barely a budget for the here and now, let alone 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.160 in the future. This is not a budget for the 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.799 next five years. I heard someone else in the evening say, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.760 it's a budget for the next five weeks. And if 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.480 you listen to the language that Jim Charmers, the Treasurer, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.040 was using tonight, he's setting this up as you know, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.760 we've come this far, We've just got to go a 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.640 little bit further. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.160 This budget builds on the progress that we have made together. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:47.000 Our economy is turning the corner. Inflation is down, incomes 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.280 are rising, unemployment is low, interest rates are coming down, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.240 debt is down, and growth is picking up momentum. We've 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.920 come a long way together, but there is more work 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.680 to do. This budget is our plan for a new 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:07.040 generation of prosperity in a new world of uncertainty. It's 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.720 a plan to help finish the fight against inflation. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.200 You know he's talking about we've done this together, we 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.880 have to finish the fight. We are turning the corner. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.080 All of this language is pointing to the campaign that 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.599 the Albanese government is setting up. That is, you've helped 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.880 us get this far in fighting inflation. You've helped us 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.800 get this far in fixing the books, though we'll talk 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.240 a little later about how they haven't really fixed the books. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.440 We need your vote to help us finish off the job, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.200 which funnily enough, is exactly the same campaign that Bob 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:46.200 hawkran in nineteen eighty seven. We're on our way, We're 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:47.359 on the right track. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:52.800 Australia have always been good at fighting. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.040 That with a little more strength and patience. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.200 Really are stress you'll vote? 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.520 Weren't happen ever? 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:15.280 Happenne together? Let's see. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.120 Then? It makes you yearn for a better time, doesn't it. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.160 Why can't a political party come up with a positive 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.800 message like that anymore? Great jingles, but of course the 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.479 only thing anyone really cares about at the moment is 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.640 cost of living, and it's got a few shows in 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:32.599 this budget speech. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.040 It's a plan to help with the cost of living. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:40.520 This is a responsible budget with five main priorities helping 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.680 with the cost of living. The cost of living is 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.560 front of mind for most Australians and it is front 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.919 and center in this budget. New plans for cost of 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.880 living and health are accompanied by new investments in housing. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.000 He Ada Ada at a cost of living. Never mind 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.120 the fact that you and your government have made it worse, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.200 Doctor Charmers over at the last three years. But there 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.600 weren't that many cost of living measures in this budget. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.640 The major one, though, the plank of their cost of 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.240 living relief is a measly tax cut. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.880 Every Australian taxpayer will get a tax cut next year 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.760 and the year after to top up the tax cuts 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.799 which began in July. This will take the first tax 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.400 rate down to its lowest level in more than half 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:28.560 a century. These additional tax cuts are modest, but they 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.320 will make a difference. The average urner will have an 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.480 extra five hundred and thirty six dollars in their pocket 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.520 each year when they're fully implemented. Combined with our first 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.320 round of tax cuts, this is two thousand, one hundred 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.920 and ninety dollars, and the average total tax cut will 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:48.039 be two thousand, five hundred and forty eight dollars, or 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.599 about fifty dollars a week. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.919 I mean, seriously, what he's talking about there is the 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.920 Stage three tax cuts that he changed, so a lot 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.440 of people actually got fewer tax cuts last year, and 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.840 then adding that on to the measly tax cut. He'll 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.919 give you this year, which is well, actually it's not 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.719 this year, it's next year. Five dollars on July the first, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.920 twenty twenty six, and then ten dollars on July the first, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.800 twenty twenty seven. It's hardly a major tax cut. And 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.120 he tries to make it sound like we are putting 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.560 more money back in your pocket, but we know, thanks 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.760 to the illusion of bracket creep, they're not putting any 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.880 more money back in your pocket. This is the reality 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.720 of what the Albanesi government has done to take more 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.680 money from you. A decade ago, the income tax receipts 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.240 that the federal government took in were two hundred and 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.480 fifty eight point eight billion dollars. Remember that number, two 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.880 hundred and fifty eight point eight billion dollars just ten 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.640 years ago. This financial year there'll be four hundred and 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.160 ninety seven point six billion. Now that's one and a 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.480 half billion dollars more than we were told in the 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.920 midyear financial update they would be. And it's ninety two 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.760 two point two seven percent more than they were taking 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:09.440 from you ten years ago. The income tax take has doubled, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.640 almost doubled in ten years now. In that time, inflation's 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.640 gone up by about thirty percent, and the working population 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.480 is increased by about twenty five percent. So yes, they 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.160 will have taken more money in income tax, but that 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.520 doesn't explain a near doubling in the money they have taken. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.760 So keep that in mind. Four hundred and ninety seven 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.840 point six billion this financial year. Next financial year, they're 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.400 going to take five hundred and twenty two point seven billion, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.440 yet more tax from you. Then here after that, which 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.760 is when you get your five dollars off every week. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.240 Remember this is when the tax cup comes through. They're 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.080 still taking more money five hundred and forty seven point 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.439 five two billion, twenty twenty seven, twenty eight, five hundred 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.800 and seventy billion, twenty twenty eight, twenty nine, six hundred 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.120 and five point three five billion over the forward estimates 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.720 in the budget they released tonight. That's another one hundred 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.280 billion dollars in income tax they're going to take from 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.960 you over the next four years. And the Treasurer has 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.120 the gall to stand up and say we've given you 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.840 tax cuts of thousands of dollars, or any tax cut 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.800 you've been given has been eaten up by bracket creep 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.000 and the increased in costs you've had to pay, and 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.880 all this extra money he's taken from you, what's he 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:26.439 done with it? 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.480 In this term, we've banked around seventy percent of tax 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:32.400 receipt upgrades. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.880 So you don't cut spending in line with the extra 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.600 money that you've taken. You just squirrel that money away 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.000 and put it somewhere else and say, we'll fantastic we've 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.880 been able to take it from you without you even 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.440 noticing we've done it, and then we'll tell you you've given 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.480 we've been giving you a tax cut. If you're getting 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.760 more tax from us, how about your offset that with 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.520 less spending so you don't have to keep taxing us? 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.720 More strange thought, I know. The only other cost of 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.880 living measure, of course, was one that we already knew, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.880 and that's an increase in the power rebate. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.880 Electricity prices in the official data went down twenty five 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.480 percent last year, but they're still putting pressure on households 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.080 around the world. Two rounds of energy rebates have helped 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.760 take some of the sting out of energy costs. Tonight, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.560 we're providing another one point eight billion dollars in energy 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.280 bill relief. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.720 Did anyone else hear that he said power bills went 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.400 down by twenty five percent last year. Twenty five percent, 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.120 Jim Charmers, what planet are you living on. None of 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.240 us who looked at our power bills over the last 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.240 year could possibly say that they've gone down by twenty 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.839 five percent. What he's trying to tell you is the 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:51.120 subsidy that we brought in means you paid less for power. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.320 It didn't mean the actual power bill went down. It 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.679 was money that the federal government took from your taxes 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.800 and then handed to power companies so that when they 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.720 sent you your bill it didn't look quite as large as 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:08.160 it actually was. It did not change the cost of energy. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.360 A power bill. The average power bill in New South 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.080 Wales on July the first this year will be one 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:18.360 thousand dollars more than the Albanesy government promised before it 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.200 came to power. Remember they said two hundred and seventy 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.959 five dollars off by twenty twenty five, but we'll give 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.080 you another one hundred and fifty measly dollars in a rebate, 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.920 not an actual cut to your bill by the end 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.800 of this year. And despite all of this that it's 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.800 not actually working. We're not getting these real cuts. They're 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.760 still going to spend more on green energy and metals. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.520 In this budget. We're investing more than three billion dollars 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.600 to support the production of Australian made green metals like 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:52.480 aluminium and iron, building on the tax incentives for critical 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.720 minerals and green hydrogen that we legislated last year. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.520 Now, I will note that he never really mentioned renewable 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.880 energy in this budget speech, for very good reason, because 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.000 he knows that's why our power bills have gone up. 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.040 But he's still talking about, oh, we're going to invest 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.360 in green metals. He must have missed the story in 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.880 The Australian earlier this month that said ninety nine percent 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.319 of green hydrogen projects in this country haven't gotten past 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.040 the concept stage and it's green hydrogen that is so 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.319 important to making green metals work in this country. He 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.080 must have also missed, of course, that the smelter at 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.280 Port Agusta in South Australia the still work. Sorry in 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.120 South Australia have fallen apart in the last month. It's 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.800 not happening, and yet they're spending more money. And he 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.480 had the gall Dr Chalmers to say that this government 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.199 had exercised spending restraint. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.840 Next year's deficit is forty two billion dollars, lower than 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.200 what was forecast at the last election and lower than 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.079 at the midyear update. Gross step will hit nine hundred 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:59.160 and forty billion dollars this financial year, one hundred and 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.880 seventy seven seven billion dollars lower than what we inherited 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.880 this man's will. I've avoid around sixty billion dollars in 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.480 interest costs over the decade. These are some of the 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.960 dividends of our responsible economic management, achieved through a combination 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.040 of spending restraint, finding savings and banking revenue upgrades. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.600 Spending restraint pull the other one, doctor Chalmers. He fails 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.960 to mention, of course, the gross debt is going to 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.440 go up to a trillion dollars next year. Are trillion 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.160 dollars the first time it's ever happened, something for which 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.760 he hammered the Morrison government when it turned up in 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.720 their Ford estimates. But he's about to do it, and 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.800 he couldn't even mention it in that speech. And you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.880 want to talk about spending restraint, mate, Let's go through 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.760 the cost of your budget starting with your first budget 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.920 in twenty twenty two. To twenty three, which was six 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.480 hundred and fifty billion dollars. Then your ex budget twenty 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.200 three twenty four was six hundred and eighty five point 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.080 nine billion dollars, and then the one after that last 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.760 year was seven hundred and sixty two point eight billion dollars, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.920 which was actual up from the seven hundred and thirty 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.360 four point five billion dollars they told it would be 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.040 in May last year. And next financial year the budget 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.360 is going to be seven hundred and eighty five point 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.040 seven billion dollars, So you put more than one hundred 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.600 billion dollars extra on top when you've been in government 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.000 and you tell us if you've exercised spending restraint. I 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.520 look forward to the budget speech every year because I 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.480 just want to see how much nonsense and lies you 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.040 can fit into a half hour speech. And this one 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.120 did not fail to deliver. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.520 That would be a new record, I would assume. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.640 And do you reckon that people are going to vote 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.160 labor because they're getting five dollars a week in twelve 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.920 months or so from now, I doubt it. All the 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:44.600 newspapers are describing this as a modest tax break, so. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.720 Very steel line from me. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.840 Churchill Jim Chalmers is a modest man with much to 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:50.680 be modest about. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.160 But I love his language. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.960 As you mentioned, Caleb, he talks about credit to all Australians. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.000 It's collective efforts. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.360 We've made a lot of progress together, we've turned a 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:03.160 corner together. This language assumes that we are already partners 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.440 with the Labor government. Don't worry about the ballot in 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.560 five weeks time. We're already lockstep with them. It's like 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.960 a sales technique where if you go to a car 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.560 dealer and you're looking at it, I don't know an 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.000 Audi A five, and instead of saying, so are you 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:16.840 going to buy the car, he says, do you reckon? 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.400 You'd like it in black or in red? 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.400 The assumption is you're with us already, And very clearly 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.200 his language was trying to convince voters you're already voting 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.760 for us. We've already come this far together, We've just 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.080 got a little bit further to go together. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:31.320 Your vote is assumed. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.160 I genuinely don't think that many voters watch the budget 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.520 speech or the budget in reply. That's for us and 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.800 you educated folk at home who take the time to 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.440 June in and find out what the flogs running our 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.320 country are actually doing. I mean, this is an embarrassment 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:52.760 of a budget period, but it means that Dutton has 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:57.400 a complete free field when he gives his budget in reply. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:02.120 He has the opportunity laid this week to actually make 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.080 the bold moves that the Albanese government have clearly found. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.000 There's not a single one in there where you're like, oh, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.560 actually I like that one. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.000 We can take that one to the bank. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.880 Dutton can go helter skelter if he wants to, and 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.640 we know, and we've discussed previously, that that is what 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.680 his party room wants to see. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:21.520 He is being. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.360 Implored by people whose jobs rely on it to be 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:30.560 bolsheer the in the walk up to this election, to 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.160 make bolder moves right now, got to say I agreed 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.840 with Jack Lamby earlier tonight. There doesn't seem other than 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.600 the promise of nuclear. When you think, okay, what's the 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.840 biggest difference between what we've heard from the major two 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:44.760 parties so far? 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.360 Other than the promise of. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.040 Nuclear, there's no really clear laid out plan of Okay, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.440 this is our plan forward and how do you like 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.280 it compared to the Albanesis. This is his opportunity to 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.479 do that loud and clear, and given how utterly pathetic 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:03.600 this budget is. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:08.080 It shouldn't be hard. The Libs cannot fail this. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.159 It's a low bar for him to clear on Thursday night. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:11.920 I would have thought. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.760 The other interesting thing, calib is you pointed out Charmers 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.200 has announced one hundred and fifty dollars towards energy rebates. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.440 But that's only for the next six months, right, which 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.560 begs the question what happens after that? Because we all 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.040 know how prices are going to continue to climb. It's 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.560 what one point eight billion dollars over the next six months, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.320 But after that, what happens more energy rebates? 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.400 How long does this continue? 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.879 Well exactly, I mean presumably it has to go go 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.120 on in perpetuity if you actually wanted to keep delivering 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.000 any kind of cost of living relief to people. And 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.440 this is the problem. It happens so much with budgets now. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.560 It used to be a thing everyone would sit down 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.080 on budget night and they tune in for the Treasurer's 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.879 speech because they wanted to learn what was going to 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.480 be in the budget. These days, everything gets leaked before 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.840 the budget speech is actually delivered, so we basically already 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.320 know what's going to be in a part from the 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.679 nasties that they don't want us to know, which is 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.199 what we then pick a park on the night. But 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.639 there was nothing in this apart from the tax cuts 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.640 that were actually new. There was nothing you could walk 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.680 away with and say, yeah, I can actually see some 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.239 vision in this government for what they want to do 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.880 if they're re elected. They're only thinking as far forward 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.640 as the election, and that's why they don't know what 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.760 they would do when they get to the end of 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.080 the year and they potentially go, oh god, we'll put 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.560 on more rebats. They'ven't even thought about that because at 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.160 the moment they're not worried about that. They're just worried 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:34.280 about getting through an election. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.000 Well, to be fair to Jim Chalmers, I think a 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.680 couple of weeks ago he wasn't even thinking he. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.280 Would be delivering a very budget point. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.520 As you said, this has been a last minute sort 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.119 of schoolboy essay compiled together. The other interesting thing was 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:51.520 the NDIS will cost fifty two million dollars, which is billion, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.920 which is a billion dollars more than Defense. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.679 Will receive in the next twelve months. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.280 That's a big thing too that deserves a lot of discussion, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.680 because of course defense is something that should be prioritized, 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.440 but we're spending more on disability pens. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.040 The NDIS is going to be continue to be a 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.680 poison chalice for whoever's in government. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.000 Meant the gift. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.480 Look at those numbers on screen. He was trying to 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.960 crow tonight charmers that, oh, you know, we're reducing spending 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.960 in the NDAs. I mean, it's like saying we've reduced 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.760 the debt. You make minuscule changes to what it's said 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.640 over the forward estimates, even though it's still going up, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.800 and then try to claim that you've had a cut. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.880 I mean, come on, it's going to grow still by 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.720 eight percent per year for the next four years. The 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.040 only performance worse than Jim chalmers performance tonight is the 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.199 performance of school teaching graduates when they're given at the 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.520 end of their studies a basic literacy and numeracy test. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.119 Reports today that ten percent of graduating teachers fail that 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.879 basic test, which means they're unable to use basic punctuation 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:01.120 in sentences and can't spell words like exaggerate or disappoint. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.119 That's double the number of teachers who are failing this 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.639 exam in twenty sixteen. Now, educators are clearly the product 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.640 of the education system. But I think a clue as 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.119 to why the education system is so bad is the 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:20.960 response to this news by various teacher representatives. The Education 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.600 Union of Victoria, in response to news that ten percent 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.840 of graduating teachers are failing this basic test, the Education 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.760 Union of Victoria criticized the test, saying it was an 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.040 inappropriate way to assess whether or not people were capable 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.719 of teaching. The Australian Catholic University had a professor come 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:39.080 out and. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.840 Say, well, the problem was the order of the questions. 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.200 Caleb, because you normally have a test that goes from 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:45.960 easy to difficult, but. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.720 In this test all the questions were jumbled up. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.560