1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: City and with Kate Ritchie podcast. This is a parenting discussion. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I want your opinion on. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Oh I've got one. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know you have an opinion on them. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Well, in fact, I don't really need to hear from you, 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: but I want you to get involved. There's a dilemma 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: with this woman who has allowed her young daughter, who 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: is only eleven years old, to do something that she's 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: probably way too young for. Okay, so get involved thirteen 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: twenty four ten. No, but it's also hard. It's also 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: it's very hard to parent your children in a particular 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: way when you know that other kids of the same age, 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: their friends at school, are allowed to do things that 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: perhaps you wouldn't want your child to do, whether that's 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: heading out, staying over at other. 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: Houses, these are the rules under this roof. 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you're turning into your parents when you 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: start saying things like, well, if if you know such 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: and such as mother will let them do it, why 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: don't you go and live there. I mean, I haven't 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: used that one yet, but it's coming. This woman has 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: come up against like a huge amount of criticism. Unfortunately. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: I do think she does it for a little bit 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: of publicity, which is quite sad to hear when her 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: you know, her. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Young daughter's life or well being is at stage. Sure, 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: she calls herself a bad mother. She's on TikTok and Instagram. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: If it's not a snake and dagger, I tatoo on 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: her back or something like that as it. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: No, it's not, but it is getting her belly pierced 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: quite like a belly button. Yeah, so the daughter is 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: eleven years old and she's allowed her daughter to get 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: the belly button pierced. Prior to this, though, she's also 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: let her maybe ten nine ten year old daughter go 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: and get acrylic nails. So big fate nails. Which are 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: you know you file the whole nail bed back you're 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: putting on the the acrylic. They were far too long. 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: There were videos I think of even the daughter in 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: tears on so because they got infected and broken. 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Were way way too long. 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: This is a disaster. Well, I think it's where's the dad? 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Well, we don't need a dad. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: It is nice to have a dad, but I don't 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: think it's always the dad who steps in and straightens things. 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Getting the job done. 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Are you doing this to press buttons. 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: Because you are Mum's not getting the job done. 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: Well, she is getting the job and. 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Now she's going to get a belly button ring. Where 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: is the dad? 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 5: Now? 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: The question I asked, did the young lady want that? 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: She did, But I do think the mum kind of 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: pushes this as well, because you know, I mean we're 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: talking about it now. 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Let's not talk about the influencer side of thing. 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: No, No, let's just talk. 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: About when your kid is ten years of age and 60 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: wants to get their epieced. What my son wanted to 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: do that at a shopping center, just the one or both, 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: just one and he wanted like a cubics of corny 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: like a diamond and there's someone. 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: In the press who has that or is there a 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: sports them kind of yeah. 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: So I so my mother and father were there with us, 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: and my mom goes. 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh, pay for it. 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go get it done. And I was like, 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: I initially went oh, but then I went, if he 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 4: wants to do it, and we went and got it done. 72 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: On the spot. 73 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: How old he was? 74 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: Nine? When he was nine? 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? 76 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: It's your rules, it's your kid, it's your house. You 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: call it. 78 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: Well, you're either going to get it done like you did. 79 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: You went and got your ease piece when your dad 80 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: said no, I didn't. I did it myself. Dad didn't 81 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: say no. 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: I did it myself and learnt the hard way sticking 83 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: a the needle through the top of my ear because 84 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: the cool kids had it in year eleven and I 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: don't know something. 86 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: That's old enough to be piercing. 87 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: But the other thing is too. There's an element of 88 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: learn from your mistake. So very quickly I knew, but 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: I would hide it because I had longer hair. And 90 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: then when I showed dad, wasn't a good day. 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is what you would say to your boys now. 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: No, well, at the age of eight and seven, yeah, 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: i'd say that you're not doing that now. Still wouldn't 94 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: work for me. Want you need to be sixteen upwards. Okay, 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: level of maturity. 96 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: I wanted made it have her ears pierced when she 97 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: went to high school. So it was a bit of 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: a fun, you know, like growing up going to high school, 99 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: you can do that. That The decision to have her 100 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: ears pissed was taken out of my hands, but it 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 3: was a bit like she learnt the hard way because 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: she did have her ears pierced. Bummy wasn't very happy 103 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: about it. And then seven weeks into having them pierced, 104 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: they got so infected. 105 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: She woke up one morning. 106 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: And I hate to say I told you so, but 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: she woke up one morning and it was this as 108 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: if her ears her earrings. 109 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Had fallen out in the night, because you couldn't see them. 110 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: But it was only because her ears had got so 111 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: increased over they had swollen up. 112 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: Over the start, so you couldn't see these. 113 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: So we had to go through the whole process of 114 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: I mean basically holding her down very gently and taking 115 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: them and removing them because there is no other option. 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: Donas in willaware. What are your thoughts on a denaise. 117 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: Hey guys, good morning morning. I wouldn't agree with us 118 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 6: as a ten year old or eleven year old gets 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 6: their billy Wotton chairs because I do have my partner's 120 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 6: daughter's ten and she went to get her ears double piers, 121 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 6: which was a part was okay, but is she asked 122 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 6: her billy Wotton piers to be a firm noll. Yes, 123 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 6: like I've then again at sixteen, like sixteen, I don't know, 124 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 6: would that be kind of a bitter age? 125 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: Have you got any Did you get anything early? On, Denise, 126 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: you got any tats or earrings early? 127 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 6: I do get tattoos when I was sixteen, but my 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 6: mom was with me. 129 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I see you don't have a leg to 130 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: stand on when you've done it yourself. I just think 131 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: if you do things so early, you've got nowhere to go. 132 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: But I but you. 133 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: Loarn this is the thing. And your daughter learned that, 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: you know that the infection. 135 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: And then she went and had them done again. Yeah? 136 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: Aleah, Hey, guys, how you go on? What an interesting topic? 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: Isn't it very much? 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: So? 139 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: Why does it strike a chord with you? 140 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 5: I rose five kids, Miles is thirty four down to eighteen, 141 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: and the different things that go on. But I remember 142 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 5: my thirty four year old daughter wanted that belly ring, 143 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh no, I think she was fourteen 144 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: and she went out and done it, like they just 145 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: go out behind your back. 146 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Tatoos are the worst because you can't undo them, can you? 147 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: What have your daughter? 148 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: My daughter's got a full sleeve and she never ever 149 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 5: asked my permission for one. You know, I love her 150 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: when she sits at the table talking to her friends. 151 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: And I'm like well, because they know where your answer 152 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: is going to be, Leah, and they're going to get 153 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 4: it done anyway. 154 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: This is the boys put. 155 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 5: My name on them. That makes me Happy's a. 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 3: Good way to get it over the line. I'm not 157 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: going to be happy about it unless I have her 158 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: face tattooed on. 159 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: My chest across I've got Leah tattoo this tiny little 160 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: one here in Cannibal Corpse on my back. 161 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Remember that's beautiful, isn't it. I mean, Kate Richie, have 162 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: you ever done anything crazy like I don't know, had 163 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: your nipple pissed? 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 165 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: I did do that, but that's interesting. 166 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: But I was working and that was one of my 167 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: first cross no first days. 168 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: In Pine Radio. 169 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: I still have the little ring in a jar on 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: my bookshelf at home because I'm a hoarder and have 171 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: you know, order sentimental issues here. But thankfully because I 172 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: was working on home and away. When I was growing up, 173 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't do anything crazy because I had to ask 174 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: for permission for everything. So I didn't have my ear 175 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: and I was the oldest of four, so I got 176 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: to do things much later. I wasn't even allowed to 177 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: shave my lengths until I was in year nine. 178 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So then he got out of home 179 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: and away and went straight for the nip. 180 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went crazy. I went mad. Thanks Mom. 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