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Speaker 1: Bob Catter Well and straight to it.

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Speaker 2: Mate. You have a pretty big reputation these days.

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Speaker 1: You have too.

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Speaker 2: I'm sacrificing a day in parliament. This is, oh my God,

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Speaker 2: come here, thank yous sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: It is a sacrifice. And by the way, I'm much

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Speaker 1: appreciative and I'm hopefully we get in a camera with

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Speaker 1: your hat. I mean, I have to tell everybody that

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Speaker 1: as he walked up so many people. There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of trade He's at the front door here recognizing young blokes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the hat that's recognizable or

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Speaker 1: the gate on him, the swagger, but they recognize him,

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Speaker 1: and you know, people put their hand out to shake

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Speaker 1: his hand. And I was sitting with my son and

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Speaker 1: my son, my oldest boy, who's forty five. He said, Dad,

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Speaker 1: there's Bob catter and so one of the most recognizable

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Speaker 1: politicians in Australia. And part of the reason of that, Bob,

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Speaker 1: is that I think you've been in Parliament maybe fifty years,

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Speaker 2: A part of the reflection upon my intelligence when I

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Speaker 2: went in there, I on turned fifty thousand acres good

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Speaker 2: country up in the Gulf. I didn't know any money

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Speaker 2: on it. I was negotiating twenty million from my own

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Speaker 2: mining comes twenty million then money. Wow, look at me now,

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Speaker 2: my wife said, you'll do well. So I have. I

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Speaker 2: got all my earthly positions to my son, my six rifles.

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Speaker 1: So where is your area?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my homeland's gone curry out or family went there. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm living in Charterstowners where my family went, I don't

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Speaker 2: know, one hundred and eighty years ago to Charter's Tairs gold

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Speaker 2: where we started from.

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Speaker 1: So I did watch something on I think a channel,

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Speaker 1: wasn't one of the TV channels that the freeware shows.

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Speaker 1: And I remember, and I didn't realize this, but you

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Speaker 1: have Lebanese heritage.

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Speaker 2: Oh my look I burw up. Not to respect yourself,

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Speaker 2: but I burw up. I mean, yeah, a great grand father. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the eighty seventies or eighties. I know nothing about it,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it really burst me up. All my knowledge,

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Speaker 2: we really know nothing about it about and yet similarly,

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Speaker 2: with a name Irish and Welsh and bloody, everything out

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Speaker 2: of the bloody thing that everyone's got a bit of

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Speaker 2: comic humor. My sisters, So I do a family tree.

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Speaker 2: I said, you're quite mad. If you're in Australian you

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Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed. Has seen two. A month later he

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Speaker 2: has the family tree going. Great grandfather was your assistant

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Speaker 2: gardener at Government House. How about that in three generations

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Speaker 2: in Australia, we hadn't made it past unschooled laborer. That's

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Speaker 2: a very great to be and nobody. But the second

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Speaker 2: time I visited, about a month after that, say that's

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Speaker 2: the family street going. She said, a stupid speech you

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Speaker 2: gave him mount I was the last week. He's family

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Speaker 2: tree going about timing did something about crime here in Townsville.

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Speaker 2: He's family speech last the month.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think you've been in politics or someone?

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Speaker 1: But you probably had plenty of cheeses of other things.

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Speaker 2: You know why all my fortune got shot to places

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Speaker 2: making whitlam bleed and I think they were thirteen or

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Speaker 2: down from the local branch of the Country Baker athlete,

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Speaker 2: disinterested and uninterested and so they stood me there. But

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Speaker 2: Whitlam got me interested and as I said, thirteen or

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Speaker 2: sixteen us I can't remember that, went into politics and

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Speaker 2: got elected to parliament in that election because but JOCKI

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Speaker 2: Purison was making Whitlam bleed and we followed as our

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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about the Country Party, Country part

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Speaker 1: What was Country what became the National Party.

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Speaker 2: But was it was very much Country.

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Speaker 1: Country Party back in Queensland in those days. And did

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Speaker 2: Because but none of it on development. It was all

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Speaker 1: Redistribution of wealth, distribution. And and when I look at today,

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Speaker 1: because of course all prices are tripled. It during that period,

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Speaker 2: Mark, I was wrong in saying that. I said he

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Speaker 1: And what most people don't realize, Bob, and you remember

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Speaker 2: You see, it's hidden now. There's all sorts of ways

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Speaker 2: Someone's going to give us some money for doing nothing. Well,

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Speaker 2: you'd be stupid not to take it, wouldn't you. And

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Speaker 2: For about two months, a dog tried to turmb a

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Speaker 2: where are you being? Everyone knows the country's but see,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing happening that increases the wealth in this country,

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Speaker 2: have three sources of income iron ore, coal and gas.

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Speaker 2: There are one hundred and twenty billion on average the

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Speaker 2: for gold fifteen billion, the one hundred and twenty billion.

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Speaker 2: you've got the big tree. Well, we gave the gas

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Speaker 2: away for six cents a yearnit, we're buying it.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain that to everybody?

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Speaker 2: How it is you have to apply for a permit

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Speaker 2: So gas is gone too bad, so sad. But because

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Speaker 2: They're getting this for six dollars for our own gas,

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Speaker 2: our own gas, we have to buy ninety eight dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: West Australia, God bless them. They have reserved resource policy

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Speaker 2: and in fantasy Prime Minister and I raised it with him.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm sure that he spoke to a

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Speaker 1: That's the government gave six.

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Speaker 2: dependent upon that place directly and indirectly, and well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the government props a foreign corporation up with people. Is

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Speaker 2: that next money?

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Speaker 1: Is that priandum six hundred minute? Is that six hundred

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Speaker 1: million perim six.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and forty million. It's over the next two years effectively,

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Speaker 2: but I think everyone knows that they'll come back again

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Speaker 1: So you were a Country Party member, and particularly in

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Speaker 2: Was when you say country and remember you know.

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Speaker 1: Do you did?

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Speaker 2: You went?

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Speaker 1: What was the change over to federal politics? What was

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Speaker 2: What happened was I was running the show. We lost

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Speaker 2: running the shop. Put that aside for the moment. But

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Speaker 2: to the point of bar room brawling. But Neil came

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, Well I don't really notice it, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how important is Queensland Queensland votes at a federal level,

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Speaker 2: You know it's getting pretty big, you know, eight and

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Speaker 1: In that regard, I mean, you've got the Catterparty now

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Speaker 2: If you start where I live in Charlestowse, it's a

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Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, so wow.

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Speaker 2: So I held the pres conference the morning ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: in fantas to my judgment, within nine days Kevin A.

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Speaker 2: Within two months, the price of cattle I had doubled,

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Speaker 2: and i'd whether they've got a single vote off any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because maybe you could just explain to the people listening,

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Speaker 2: We send little calves to them, and you know, they

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Speaker 2: sort of religion. Millings held a lot of different religions

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Speaker 2: National Park. Well, they had nothing to do with the

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Speaker 2: destruction of the wool industry. That was a keating special

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Speaker 2: that was life. Move Charouse. The next town the electric

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Speaker 2: is Ingham, and then sugar all the way up the case.

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Speaker 2: John Anderson deregulated the sugar industry. Fifty of our sugar

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Speaker 2: It was an arbitrated price. So we said we want

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Speaker 2: think of for your free market. He abolished all the

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Speaker 2: not now it's it's been given a mortal blow. All

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Speaker 2: of the sugar mills are owned by the farmers. Now

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Speaker 2: all the sugar mills are foreign owned. But that's the

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Speaker 2: start of it. They're using their muscle powercers. There's no

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Speaker 2: use the monopoly to force price down, prices down more

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Speaker 2: and more. You see, our boy are going up there.

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Speaker 2: Put cattle there, and you know, like cattle about one

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Speaker 2: if you switched to cattle. Now, the other issue is bananas.

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Speaker 2: John Anderson wrecked the sugar industry. He then issued an

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Speaker 2: the great leader we had in the banana industry, Roberd McCoy,

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Speaker 2: We don't know any he said, Dick Pratton. It was

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Speaker 2: Robe and KOI went in to see How and how

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Speaker 2: they had a gut full of Andersent. Little Lord Fauntleroy

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Speaker 2: in a captain of King's College, the most exclusive and

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Speaker 2: I had liked Anderson and but he didn't do any

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Speaker 2: He didn't do anything about it, John Howard, that is.

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Speaker 2: But he was watching Anderson destroy rural industry after rural

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Speaker 2: And how did that stage It had a gutful of him, right,

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Speaker 2: made vacant. And then I will give him piece of

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Speaker 2: paper the new cabinet. Your name will not be on it.

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Speaker 2: And That's what I'm going to do tomorrow morning. So

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Speaker 2: The next town is Mariba. Two thousand people employed in

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Speaker 2: four hundred farmers bankrupt, two thousand people are out of

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Speaker 2: sip to grapes. He destroyed all of them, just left

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Speaker 2: the pathway of absolute dreadful dreadful fellow, you know, pursuing

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Speaker 1: What is the ideology?

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Speaker 2: The ideologist free market? You know, the free market will

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Speaker 2: In Australia, seventy four percent. So if your free market,

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Speaker 2: They're not very well educated or anything like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that I could win the seat, and

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Speaker 2: I checked out no independent had ever got re elected.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking into my open grave. But that was better

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Speaker 2: Was my party, political party was doing it. It was

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Speaker 2: the ALP, but all the others were destroyed by not

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Speaker 2: I was brought up Country Party sending it out about

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Speaker 2: We were formed to get statutory marketing arbitration for our

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Speaker 2: that is the fate of agriculture in Australia. Will has

433
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: gone destroyed by the Labor Party, sugar or the sugar

434
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: mills of foreign iron. More and more they're buying the

435
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: farms because the farmers are going broke bend screwed by

436
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: a monopoly position. Will Worths and Coals now going up

437
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: probably about eighty five percent of the market. In fact,

438
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: the only market they haven't got little towns and way

439
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: out suburbs. They don't launch and so there's only two

440
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: people to sell you produce to in Australia. And needless

441
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: to say, I think Queensland and New South Wales have

442
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: lost six federal seats have vanished because population is going

443
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: down down down my homeland, the midwest four Little towns

444
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: clone carried to you. On the four little towns we

445
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: had twenty six thousand. We now got six thousand because

446
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: there's no business, seven thousand because there's no jobs. Well

447
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: closed down the wool industry then the it was the

448
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: ALP that sold the railways. She closed down the railways

449
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: and sold off the mineral part of the railways and

450
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: a lot of corruption was involved there, not by the

451
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: minister but by the head of the railways. And so

452
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: you know, the railways are gone, the wool industry is gone.

453
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: And you know like cattle, where you had five wool

454
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: station properties wool cockage, now you got not even one

455
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: cattle cockie. He was just have an overseer on four

456
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: or five stations. And of course you really only need

457
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: people there when you're mustering, you know, a couple of

458
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: months a year.

459
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: And let them wander around the rest of.

460
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: It, so there's just no work for them out there,

461
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: and rural Australia is closing down. They're flying to the cities.

462
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: There's no work out there, there's no chance of making

463
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: a quid out there. So they were all just taken off.

464
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: How do you feel as a quintessential proper country party

465
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: guy from the early days, from the you know and

466
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: grew up in those environments where you knew all the farmers,

467
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: you knew all the suppliers, you knew everybody in town.

468
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 2: I knew them all when they were committing suicide. Really,

469
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: my suicide right in Australia was between Milanda and Athena,

470
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: which was the biggest dairying area in Australia's right in

471
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: the heart of the electrode.

472
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I represent that is that through being remoter.

473
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: No no, no. The deregulation, they were on sixty two

474
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: cents a leader on the Friday when Anderson introduced the deregulation,

475
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: they were on twenty seven twenty six cents. On the

476
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: Monday account two cents, they're on twenty six cents.

477
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: The boy, why aren't these individuals who have these ideologies

478
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that they're trying to impose on people have been working

479
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: hard through generations to establish just a life. They're not rich,

480
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: they're just they're putting their kids through school and all

481
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff.

482
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: I drive no mesdes Benzes. But then again, there was

483
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: none of them being full closed on either, you know,

484
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: in the dairy industry, but their lives canted short and

485
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: their simple minded, uneducated people, nice good people, you know,

486
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: but you know they still don't know what's happened to them.

487
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: You know that the ones that are left, like still

488
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: bat and Pee, you know, they think it's country poor figures. Well,

489
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: no one cares about them because it's only about thirty

490
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: of them left, now, you know, wow, serious? Thirty eight thirty. Yeah. Well,

491
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: I was addressing a meeting and I said, we're John

492
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: fifty four. Now he got fifty eight. And the state

493
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: member's member of our party as well. He said, try

494
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: forty eight, Bob, And the lady behind him said, try

495
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: thirty eight. Chain, that's all that's left.

496
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Though someone's been in

497
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: part so long, I have.

498
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: An inner rage. I mean, Jesus told us we're uppose

499
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: to love our enemies. Well, you know the judgement I'm

500
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: passing upon John Anderson could not be worse. He will

501
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: go down in history as one of the worst politicians

502
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: in this nation's history. And they say he's found God.

503
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: But I hope God's found him because now I know

504
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: where he's gone.

505
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: What are the people like John Howard? Do you ever

506
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: still have conversation with John Howard?

507
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: I had a lot of time for John, you know,

508
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: and he suffered great pain in what he saw was

509
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: going on with agriculture in Australia. But you know, since

510
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: all the National Party or Country members of Parliament, they

511
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: came from rural areas, he thought, well, there couldn't be

512
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 2: I think this problem. But they're not seeing a problem.

513
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: They're still vuting for the National Party. Well, you know.

514
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: But in the end, and I think Alan Jones had

515
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: a lot to do. You commentatorus, you don't realize how

516
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: much power you got, But I think, you know, whatever

517
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Jones's done or not done in other areas, I think

518
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 2: he had a lot to do with how becoming aware

519
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: that this bloit was destroying agriculture in this country.

520
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Aside from what Alan Jones is, you know they're currently

521
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: dealing with. I mean, one of the things he was

522
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: great is prosecuting a strong position for the underdog. He

523
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: was always very good.

524
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean he you know, with this terrible

525
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: thing that's happened, I don't know whether it happened or not.

526
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm not in judgmental. But outside of that, I thought

527
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: he was one of the greatest fighters of the Australian people.

528
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: And he also had, you know, that great passion. And

529
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: you know for the Australian people, Well.

530
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Who are the fighters now?

531
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, well, that's what I'm saying there there's few

532
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: of you people left. Well, you know a bit like

533
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, you know, and you know, Barnaby and I'd

534
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: agree on everything. You know, we go to church on Sunday,

535
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: which pretty rare of these dings, but we'd agree on everything.

536
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: And but you know, I said to Barnaby, and I

537
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: wasn't trying to hurt him, stip in the second most

538
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: powerful man in Australia for six years, tell me one

539
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: single thing that you did in those six years. And

540
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: it was really sad because he couldn't think of anything.

541
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: He raised the Rockampton where I said, you had nothing

542
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: to do with that, and you know it, and you

543
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: shouldn't erased it. And he felt a bit upset that

544
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: he'd raced it because he thought I wouldn't know. But yeah,

545
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't say that and rage your anger, but you

546
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: know I say it in sadness with Barnaby, you know,

547
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: like Matt Canavan is another one. You know, I doubt

548
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: whether I've ever heard not say anything that I've disagreed with.

549
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm very disappointed that he used the attention of Australia

550
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: and he spent the whole time bagging one Nation. Well,

551
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, being my guest, they've taken two of our

552
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: four seats office and handed them over to the Liverpool

553
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Party and they run around saying, oh, we're the alternative

554
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: now or not. You are destroying the alternative. You're just

555
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: a running dog or popping on a string for the

556
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: Liberal Party.

557
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: Just on that, because you know, like you just mentioned

558
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Barnaby and and you've just mentioned as as you said,

559
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: one nation taking seats and especially over there in South

560
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Australia recently. But do you think that Matt's strategy around

561
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: attacking them, trying to hang them out to dry, that's

562
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: the one Nation, is a good strategy.

563
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have played it that way, but I'm not

564
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: sure that he's wrong I mean, if you've got bad

565
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: out there, you know. I use the word evil with

566
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: Penny Wong and with Tony Burke, but I wouldn't use

567
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: the word evil here, you know, And I certainly wouldn't

568
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: use it against.

569
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: Barnaby's not evil as such.

570
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't describe he as evil, But I wouldn't

571
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: say that she's a good person either, you know, And no,

572
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: won't apologize for saying that, you know. You know, you've

573
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: got to say, I'm fighting when my people get hurt,

574
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: I get angry, right, I'm fighting to get bloody the

575
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: cold Fields, Galilee based and Goldfield Sapeen. I want the

576
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: bloody tunnels that we can open up the massive mineral

577
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: province beyond Cam's, you know. I mean, I'm out there

578
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: because I know that people are suffering and they don't

579
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: have to suffer, and it will get worse unless these

580
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: things happen. That is not a characteristic of one nation.

581
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: They point out some evils out there, and that's good.

582
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: And I think you've got to give her four marks

583
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: on a migration. Whether she was right in the past

584
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: or not, you may certainly right now, so you give

585
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: her four marks on that. But you know, if anyone

586
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: thinks that it's going to be where a strangers should go, well,

587
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I said flippantly, and I probably

588
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said it, but I said, look, people are

589
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: so desperate now as a doors political doors and cameras

590
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: when you can't at Parliament and there's a doors interview.

591
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: I said, mate, they're so desperate now they're vote for

592
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: one nation.

593
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: You know you think so, you think the vote for

594
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: one nation is more desperation.

595
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the slightest doubt in my mind. It's not

596
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: afection for their policies. And they don't even know what

597
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: their policies are outside of you know, stopping people from

598
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: coming to country. And good on them for that. Good

599
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: on them for that, and that is very relevant now.

600
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're I can open the Galilee. They're not

601
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: going to build that tunnel to not that giant mineral province.

602
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: They're not going to build a Bradfield Scheme or the

603
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Clarence River Diversion, which is like the Bradfield Scheme for

604
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: New South Wales. It doubles the aguacultural production off New

605
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: South Wales. New South Wales produces half of Australia's agricultural

606
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: production really and it will double agricultural production and New

607
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: South Wales. Every drop of water that stabilded by class

608
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: will be used for irrigation where it's only about a

609
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: tenth of the water the present moments used for irrigation

610
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: buy backs and you know, oh, you can't do this

611
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and you can't do that. And privatization. You know a

612
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: lot of water rights that just trade it as a

613
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: commodity in the stock market. And Sydney they don't use it,

614
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: they just trade it. And Bridge was one of the

615
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: great leaders in Australia in my opinion. He used to

616
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: get dressed local government conferences and he he said, gentleman,

617
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: he quoted one of the big corporations and he said,

618
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: as always, the greatest asset we have in our portfolio

619
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: water rights. They grow in value every year. And the

620
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: wonderful thing about him is you don't have to use them.

621
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: What a terrible quote, but Bridgie quoted that from their

622
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: annual report to shareholders.

623
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Well, Bob, you're served under so many leaders called leaders,

624
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: maybe that they didn't lead very well, but you served

625
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: on the same meaning. Who's some of the I mean,

626
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: apart from Joe Peterson, who are some of the great

627
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: at a federal level. Who was our great leaders?

628
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, Hiltshire was the coordinator general in I

629
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: never ever figured out whether Queensland Miracle was Leo or

630
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: whether it was Chill, and they both claimed there was

631
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: the other Black can both very humble people. But I said,

632
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: you know, Leo would be right up there. But you know,

633
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: when you come back Federally, Jack McEwan created the bee

634
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: fraud's scheme. You know, our property was a two hundred

635
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: and sixty kilometers from Richmond, and no one had ever

636
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: put cattle on it. The neighboring property made Mone myself

637
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: brought five hundred thousand acres. There has never been a

638
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: head of cattle on either place. Five hundred thousand native

639
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: twenty four inch rainfall. Most of the YUS earth wilds

640
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: doesn't get twenty four inch rainfall, and no kind of

641
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: been on it. Well, the beef raid scheme changed all

642
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: of that. So once you could get so you couldn't

643
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: drove anymore, you know, on horseback, and you couldn't get

644
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: him out on a ride. The roads weren't fit to

645
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: take cattle. So McEwan introduced the beef fraud scheme and

646
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: for example, we bought those properties for it's ridiculous. I know,

647
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand dollars. No, half a million acres for

648
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: sale for one hundred and eighty million.

649
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: Now you should have kept it.

650
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: My partner cries all the time. She hungry buss you

651
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: sold for twenty eight million.

652
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: You may three grand, you may four grand.

653
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: Twenty four just on the front of lady man. But

654
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: that was the beef fright ski. So that's m the

655
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: cattle out, yep. And you could get the cattle in.

656
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: And that was McEwen. McEwan set the World Price Agreement

657
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: in sugar, which almost doubled our income for sugar. He

658
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: introduced the chosen for milk and at the address is

659
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: only twenty eight years of age. Two thousand turned up

660
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: for the meeting, and he said, look as for me,

661
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: I am sick and tired of living on a dirt

662
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: floor and a galvanized iron shed eating rabbits, and I'm

663
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: not going to do it anymore. So from now on

664
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: it gets sold through the marketing corporation, and you do

665
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: not sell fresh milk outside the marketing corporation. And three

666
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: of them said, you won't tell us how he can

667
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: sell our milk. He said, oh, I haven't explained to

668
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: your properly. If you just come out the back of

669
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: the tent, this big, huge market and we'll just see

670
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: if we can get on each other's wavelengths. Now. So

671
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: they went out and back through them for them, and

672
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: Quan bashed the hell out of left all through them,

673
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: semi conscious on the ground. Now, I just want them

674
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: explain to them properly. Shut up. But the anthemy is

675
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. These are the two great founders

676
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: the Country Party. Doug Anthony, yeah, his father. They did

677
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: exactly the same thing with bananas. All bananas will be

678
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: sold through the banana corporate, but in their case had

679
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of Sicilian in the family tree. He

680
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: walks his heads in bit broken lakes while in cases.

681
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: And everyone got the message that they saw through the

682
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: Banana Grass Corporate. And it was sort of funny that,

683
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of Sicilian background, because Doug was

684
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: six foot two or six foot through and he had

685
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: a big hook. Now you know, typically European knows he's

686
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: blonde hair and blue autumn. But there was a heart,

687
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: there was pure Sicilian. I wouldn't have crossed Doug, but

688
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: you know, he was the one that created the wool industry.

689
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, we were in desperate trouble. Every wool girl

690
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: I was technically bankrupt, and he introduced the Wolf scheme

691
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: and then we went back to being the juggernaut of

692
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: the Australian economy under Doug Anthony. So you're asking me who, Well,

693
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you about the heroes, you know, Dug Anthony

694
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: and Jack McEwan. And when Jockie Peterson was elected, we

695
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: were a coal importing country. It's hard to think of that.

696
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: We were coal importing really, And when they said they're

697
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: going to build this huge coal port in this big

698
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: railway line, never in a screaming it's you know, corrupt fiefs,

699
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: you know corruption, and it wasn't actually for thiefs the

700
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: first port and Roan, but other of its buddy madness,

701
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: we're coal importing country. We're going to bet two thousand

702
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: and million, like most of state budget is going to

703
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: be on a bet that we can become a coal

704
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: exporting country. And I interviewed Jockie Peterson and Leo Hillshire

705
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: the court in that general. But I mean, you're going

706
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: to go out and spend the entire Queensland budget on

707
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: a bet if we could become a coal exporting country.

708
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: Did you have any piece of paper saying made by

709
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: the coal and Lee, I said, I know what. It

710
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: wasn't like that. You know, we knew that we could

711
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: sell the cop That's not the question I'm asking Leo.

712
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Did you have a piece of paper that said someone

713
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: was going to buy the cop? Yeah? No, no, no,

714
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: he said, you don't. He dodged the question. He wouldn't

715
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: ask because they had not one single contract. I asked

716
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Joy the same question. It's the same like Leair, you

717
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: maybe duck on a dodge and I'm weaving anyone.

718
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: But they they put outs and on a bet the

719
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: whole Queensland budget for one. You on a bet that

720
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: we could become a coal exporting country. Well we did,

721
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: would become the.

722
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Biggest collexpoarding state within seventy years on earth. Well, you know,

723
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: if you looked at Joe's background, you could have seen

724
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: that he was almost as big as thesis, a contract

725
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: everyoner those farmer. No he won, he was some machinery contractor. Yeah,

726
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: he was a big farmer too, but that was the sideline.

727
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: So it's interesting you should say that because when you

728
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: the people you named, it wasn't so much about there

729
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: warm fuzzy sort of leadership style. You talked about what

730
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: they achieved, like you actually like concrete achievements, yes, yes,

731
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: concrete achievements, yes. And you talked about one individual characteristic

732
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: which seem to cut across all of them, and that

733
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: is the individual characteristic of having courage as a political courage.

734
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: You know something that you were spending the whole Queensland

735
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: budget on one item that tastes a lot of courage.

736
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: You know. I was wedged into the Blackfellow portfolio in Queensland,

737
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm related Blackfellow center. If you live in

738
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: small country towns, you custom brothers. They call them hand

739
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: novels identifies Soten. It's not as a black Fellow and

740
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: dark a gumf curry saying murray from the courage. You know,

741
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: we're all bit dark. I don't even figured about that.

742
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: But once putting the portfolio, I realized that these pep

743
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: were not allowed to on land. They're not allowed to

744
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: iron land or the tribines that or the government owns

745
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: that are they're holding it in trust for the people

746
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: because we love the blackfellows, and we just want to

747
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: look after it for them.

748
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: You know, we don't trust them, but we won't allow

749
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: them to piece paper says I owned mine home, and

750
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: but I sort of asked them what they wanted.

751
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: Really at the end of the day, they wanted the

752
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: white fellows out. Everything was being a ministered by white

753
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: fellows out of Brisbane and they were farmed out from

754
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Brisbane onto the Pomper House and dormitors and you know

755
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: ka and Yamas, so white fellows running everything in these places.

756
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: We had to buy squining dollars to the white fellas

757
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: to go out there, living in the middle of nowhere

758
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: and do this job. But anyway, they wanted to run

759
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: things themselves. They wanted the white fellows out right. That

760
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: was obvious to me. But even if they hadn't said that,

761
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: I'd still think, hey, this is wrong. White face in

762
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: from Brisbane given all the order sense, Yeah that's wrong.

763
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I determined that we're going to change it.

764
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: But the head of the department was an evil person,

765
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: not in the business running people down if I can

766
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: avoid it, So I'll just leave it at that. And

767
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: but but Jockey Pedison foot the sunshine out of his

768
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: well and that of me. And so what am I

769
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: going to do? Now? A great lady called pel probably

770
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: the greatest lady of the last century. If twenty three

771
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: percent of Australia lived in small towns that didn't have

772
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: secondary schools unless you were rich, you couldn't go to

773
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: a boarding school. So you know ninety those people that

774
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: lived that twenty three percent never got a secondary education.

775
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Well she got the remote area allowances and the isolated

776
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: children's allowances through so we've got a quality of education

777
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: was then about a fifth of the Australian population. A

778
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: great lady. But anyway she decided throughout Presbyterian and remember

779
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: all the community areas in Queensland. I can't speak, but

780
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: then most my brother cousins are in Queensland, not in

781
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Northern Territory. We got ten times more first Australians North

782
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: queens then they got Northern Territory. So that's what they

783
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: were like. But you know, am I going to sit

784
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: idly by and allow this to continue in our way?

785
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: Ho say, and featured in the Australian and who's going

786
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: to win out of catter on this head of the

787
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: department that Jogie Patterson's in love.

788
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: With well, I won, did you have to take John?

789
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: I was sort of very humorous the deputy premier. His

790
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: daughter married one of the leaders in the Torres Straits,

791
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: and that's by had a lot of illegitimate children from

792
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: the first the strains. And but he was thinking it

793
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: was funny and I may have on the fot. Then

794
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: suddenly when his daughter married one of the leading people

795
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: up in the Torres Straits, he didn't think it was

796
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: funny at all, and he came down on my side

797
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: by time. But in the end, George May, I haven't

798
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: met seven truly great people on my life. Probably George

799
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: might be the first one, I'd say. And George put

800
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: all his faith in Jesus. And George, George May was

801
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: the legendary leader. You know, he's bigger than being in

802
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: the Torres Straits.

803
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: Wow.

804
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: And I don't think George like what fell us a lot.

805
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: It was my impression and by Tim, but you know he's,

806
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 2: you know, very deeply religious. That Marlboro case was never

807
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: run by Marlboro was Father Salih Anglican Press. And George

808
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: May he was you know that the thieves, they were

809
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: on that case at all stages.

810
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: The famous Marlbo case.

811
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but those were the two that run and

812
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: why they had that tremendous people they were good people.

813
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Backed Marlbo case was because it was led at the

814
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: end of the day by two people of towering moral

815
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: courage and leadership, Father Salih.

816
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: And as In a priest.

817
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an Anglican pist degree Mr. Island and George

818
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: my and they were very very close. And but George

819
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: is very religious, and you know, he never went to

820
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: a meeting up there. He didn't sing hims and say pray.

821
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: It's just very nice, you know. And in fact, I

822
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Christianity's practiced in the Islands like it's not practiced anywhere

823
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: else on earth. Right, all the preachers, it's about fifty

824
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: preachers and Cans from the Torrest Straits and so their

825
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: own sort of little religion Christians. But anyway, I'm very

826
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: attractive people, very attractive. But I just got to add this,

827
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: this is just terrible. I have to tell you this.

828
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: I had about three hundred and fifty meals in the

829
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: dw Straates. I had to go up down and stay

830
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: and I'll start there for a week or whatever. And

831
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: I never touched any food from the mainland at all.

832
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: It was taos sweet potatoes, mangoes, bananas, but seafood grown

833
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: and caught fish, fish, you know, jewgong, turtle, whatever. So

834
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: it was they were totally self sufficient. The last time

835
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: I went up there, I measured in the supermarket on

836
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: Murrh Island one seventh of the entire shelf space space

837
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: was rice. That's what poor people eat. Ah and I

838
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: did not touch and my seven meals up there a

839
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: single spheric of food from the islands. The greenies said.

840
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: Oh, we must protect the barrier reef, we must protect

841
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: all of the the seas for the first Australian people.

842
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: What's that mean? I would have to place down all

843
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: the freezers and all the commercial fishing in entire straits. Well,

844
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: hold on a minute, that's where they get their money from,

845
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: where their incomes come from. Oh yes, but you know

846
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: they wouldn't want us to destroy the environment and the sea,

847
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: and so they took away their income and then they

848
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 2: took away their source of food. You know, that's cultural.

849
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: I think it's cultural vandalism. I mean the culture.

850
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: No, I think it's worse than that. I think what

851
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: you're looking at what they call it the Nazis in Germany,

852
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: you know where you were annihilator race geneside genocide. Now

853
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: I think you're looking at in Neon whits genocide in

854
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: the Terres Straits and the people responsible for that. You

855
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: will burn in Hell. You know, you've got some weird

856
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: ideology that there's no relationship to human beings or human values.

857
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: You will burn in Hell. I hope and pray there

858
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: is l because that's where I want you to go there,

859
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: smooth talking double degree Brisbane, you know, Canberra, I hope

860
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: you burn and Hell.

861
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because it is I mean, that's has

862
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: probably destroyed because you as you say, like part of

863
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: the culture of those people is that what they catch

864
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: with them and their food completely and sharing.

865
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Their right to food has been taken away. But by

866
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: the time you get food from the mainland after the

867
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: toristrates cossibly fortune. I mean, you know, the melbodyship only

868
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: goes out from Thursday Island once or twice a week.

869
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the cost is colossal.

870
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: There's probably not nutritionally right from either so they're you know,

871
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: in terms of what they're eating, they're probably not eating

872
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: anyone you as well as they used to eat.

873
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: Well you know, this is the first Australian settlements. And

874
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: you know I can't speak with authority about other areas,

875
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 2: but clearly I can speak about authority for North Queensland.

876
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that first Australians would

877
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: have been annihilated. And I'm not going to go and

878
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: to pick the fight first, you know, but one more

879
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: bad rifles and the other mob didn't, so we know

880
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: this was going to end up and they would have

881
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: been all annihilated except the Christian missionaries. The Anglican Church

882
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: pulled them in and reserve three and a half million

883
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: acres for them in all those community areas, you know.

884
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: So and then they set up market gardens in all

885
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: of those areas well, Minister. We kept the market gardens going,

886
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: but we just went and filled out a form and

887
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: unless the council disagreed with it, or someone disagreed with you.

888
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: Getting someone objected a freil.

889
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: Title, you've got a frail title. And they call them catalyzes.

890
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: I honestly had nothing to do with it, asked them

891
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: what they wanted to do. I put it before the

892
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: committee and it was a really smart committee. Mick Weaver's

893
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: played frustrating. I remember Mix sent his money home and

894
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: bought all the neighboring dairy farms his richest courses on

895
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast starying sorry from service Paradise. So Mick

896
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: was really super intelligent. Blood Douggie Jennings wouldn't be part

897
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: of the A V. Jennings. His father's A V. Jennings.

898
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: He said. His father gave a million dollars and go away,

899
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: went up the golf country twenty eight millions of cattle.

900
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: He killed.

901
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 2: Doug use my tough bloke. So Jennings was on the committee.

902
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: Now black is the commentact for rugby league in Australia.

903
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 2: And he was also the headmaster of the biggest school

904
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: in Coinsay. But you know they're all smart blakes and

905
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: achievers and I want the committee and I said they,

906
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: I says, what the black fellows want this, it's up

907
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: to your blacks and everyone them said, yeah, kick the

908
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: white fellows out and let them run their own shot.

909
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.

910
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: There's anonymous decision and and that's the way we went. Well,

911
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: they've now gone under the Local Government Act and it's

912
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: so restricted that it's mixing mockery. They've all got white

913
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: fellows back in running everything now and h you know

914
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: that famous farm hoover rad Jack Kiflings. If you know

915
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: what's everything that you have ever built? Smashed the pieces

916
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: and after try and put it back together with a broken,

917
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: worn out hands. Yeah, yeah, that's where we were out

918
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: at the press moment. He said.

919
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: But what frustrates you most in Australia now, just generally

920
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: in terms of the political structure, what the political structure

921
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: allows to happen. What frustrates your most.

922
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you giving me a bit of time in

923
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: your program because before the Senator Kim Karr left and

924
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know him. I've never spoken in my life.

925
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: He said, Bobby, we want you to come down for coupe.

926
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: He already ounced his retirement, but he was the leader

927
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: in the Senate off and on for about twenty years,

928
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: highly respected on both sides of the house. And I

929
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: once you come down. So when I went down, made

930
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 2: me a cup of teen and he said, well, politicians

931
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: today won't govern. You'll never be able to get them

932
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: to govern. They don't govern anymore. I said, when you

933
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: come back conclusion, he said, two years ago. So you've

934
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: beaten me. I come back clusion five months ago. You know,

935
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: it's not that they're bad guys. Are good guys, or

936
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: that they're greenies, or that they had blackfellows or whatever.

937
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: You know're not going to do it. They're just incapable

938
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: of governing. We're trying to get goods in doing what

939
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: you at the present moment, you know, with this fuel

940
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: crisis and you know, I mean it's sort of sill

941
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: eve and ringing up. I've got a black dying, you know.

942
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: And he said, oh, well, you know, we've done our

943
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: best with the the body that oversightes drug use in

944
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: Australia pharmaceutical uh mob, And we've done our best, you know.

945
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty confident dot com, I said, And I said,

946
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: I got somebody dying here. Yeah, and I'm going to

947
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: pin it on you, your boss. I'm going to pin

948
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: it on you because what else am I going to do,

949
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: you know, doing it afterwards. I'm not doing it to

950
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 2: hurt you. I'm telling you to try and get save

951
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: this blake's life. And he said, oh, I'll make a

952
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: decision tomorrow, you know, and I think it'll be favorable.

953
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: Well it wasn't favorable. So you know, there's only so

954
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: many people that I can destroy, and you know, I

955
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: hope Jesus won't judge me askedly. But I did destroy

956
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: the Deputy Premier of Queensland, Gordon Chalk. And I did

957
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: destroy Jackie Tad, Deputy Premier of Queenslin. I did the

958
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: street destroy Michaelhan, Premier Queensland when I came down here. Yeah,

959
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: I was not. I can't claim Anderson's scalp, but I

960
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: most certainly made a contribution. You know, James probably made

961
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: the biggest contribution. And John Howard, you know John, now

962
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: it just had a gut full of me. And I

963
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: got a lot of time for mode, respect for you know,

964
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: I think you said stand out just an ordinary sort

965
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: of blake, just trying to do good for Australia. There

966
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: was the way I always saw him an honest bike too,

967
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: you know, he just didn't think you should lie or

968
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: misrepresent anyway. I forget about that.

969
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, well we bet the current mob, We'll bet

970
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: the car.

971
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm a little bit jawned us here

972
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: because Elbow and I went in about the same time,

973
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, and I just put those blakes I'm going

974
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: on well with you know, were you heavily involved in

975
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: rugby league. He's likable and it's just an ordinary knock

976
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: about Australian. You know, he's been out to you and

977
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: then twice and he just sat in the pub like

978
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, whether a rich, gracious or

979
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: or you know, Blake's worked in the railway, you know,

980
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: contract this or whatever. You know, he was right at

981
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: home talking to any of them, you know. And and

982
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: he's that sort of block, you know. But his party,

983
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 2: if I were saying who had the power, I'd say

984
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: that Penny warm and Tony Burke had as much Paris.

985
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: He's got straight flipp a second on their side, which

986
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: is a bit unfair to Tanure. But all the time,

987
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: you know, he's got terrible difficulties and tacking the country

988
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: where he'd like to tack it.

989
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: What about Chalmers's treasure?

990
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: You know, I hesitate Chris. I don't know him and

991
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he counts for anything, and so I

992
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 2: just sort of and I mean I know nothing bad

993
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: about him, you know, nothing good about him, but you know,

994
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean clearly the superannuation and I said, Kevin I

995
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: seven has been really stupid, you know, and I spect

996
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: this problem there I won't go into that, but I

997
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: said we have got to get some off that all

998
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: of Australia savings going seeperannuation. Well they're doing selling shaes

999
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: backwards and thoughts to each other or property and that

1000
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: counts for about eighty percent of this banditure. You know,

1001
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: there's a bit assing, but very small bit. But it's

1002
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: just contributing nothing. It's just been taken off the Australian

1003
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: people and they're playing monopoly with each other. And he

1004
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: said John Maynott Keynes said it was a reliate. Well,

1005
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: whether it's a relate, well, the famous economist said this

1006
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: early on. Yeah. But so we've got no money for development.

1007
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: It's useless me saying oh, will you please build the

1008
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: damn or build this tunnel, or build you the Raiway,

1009
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: lined open the Galiley because they got no money to spend.

1010
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: You want to say I got no money to spend.

1011
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: Queensland has got massive income from coal tax, the coal

1012
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: tax in Queensidance twice in years south while well twice

1013
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: that yes it was and of course it will close

1014
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: down the industry. So what the current premier is saying,

1015
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: and I don't know where there is wrong on honesty,

1016
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: this blade. But what he's saying to the back benches

1017
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: just sit tight. The tax will close the mines. Already

1018
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: three big mines have already closed. It was the ALP

1019
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: introduced this massive tax for revenue thing because they've got

1020
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: to pay for the Olympic Games, sixty two thousand million

1021
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: dollars for games. And what will they get out of it?

1022
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: Won't create a single job in Australia. Just a big

1023
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: excitement machine for the politicians. But anyway, so the coal

1024
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: industry will strangle to death by that tax. But Christophilie

1025
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: will be long gone, had crashes down.

1026
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean you spend time down in Canberra. I mean

1027
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: most of you them don't really have a sense of

1028
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: this when you get down to the mothership. What's it

1029
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: like having to hang out in Canberra? What does back

1030
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: to do?

1031
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting when I went down there the first night,

1032
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: I was in Camera and I went down to the bar,

1033
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: you know where Congrea goes and you talk to people,

1034
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: and no one knew where the bar was. But after

1035
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: about an hour I found out where the bar was

1036
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: and there were two blocks there. They weren't Channelis and

1037
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 2: they weren't politicians, and they weren't staff as I really

1038
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: didn't know they were. So when does everyone come into

1039
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: the bar, And like I said, well, no one comes

1040
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: to the bar. In Queensland you can't move in the

1041
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: public bar. It is absolutely packed at Parliament House and

1042
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 2: you know.

1043
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a public bar in Parliament House.

1044
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one goes there. Right in Queensland you

1045
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: can't move. It's packed to the gun walls.

1046
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: But just with people or anybody.

1047
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: No, in the Queensland case, only for unless they bring

1048
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: one of the staffers in. But he can't go and

1049
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: buy himself. So just interesting comment. You know that they

1050
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: don't talk to.

1051
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: Each other, so there's no camaraderie.

1052
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: Don't think no camaraderie. They all hate each other or

1053
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: carrying noise to stab each other in the back. And

1054
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean what's happened in the National Party. I mean

1055
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: it's really disgusting. It's just constant warfare. Who's going to

1056
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: be the boss? You know? And of course Varnery didn't

1057
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 2: make his boss, so he's Ronnie Swagen leaving you and

1058
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: one other the same thing. But I mean they spend

1059
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: their time, you know, hacking each other to the pits.

1060
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: They don't spend a bit of time criticising the government.

1061
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: What do you think about the liberals that federal so.

1062
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: And I've been unfair to care of Cane And you know.

1063
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: I think he's got a pretty good mon orrels Matt.

1064
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: And we'll time will tell whether he can make a difference.

1065
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 2: And you know my vertites speak. I thought that's good.

1066
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: You know he speaks well, he's very good on his feet.

1067
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: But you know he understand the problems. But you know,

1068
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: as he got the personal force to build a dam,

1069
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know if I had to say,

1070
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: I say no, he hasn't got the personal force needed,

1071
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: you know to do that. Well. I put the first solid,

1072
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: stand alone solar system in Australia and it's fabulous in

1073
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: remote areas, right, it is monumental craziness. And I speak

1074
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: with authority. I put the first ones in in Australia.

1075
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: It is monumental stupidity in a city. But you know,

1076
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: if we're talking about you know, I don't know, way

1077
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: out in the Burndocks in Year South Wales. Yeah, no,

1078
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: it's good sense in a remote town or location, very

1079
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: good sense. But so I put the first solar system

1080
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: in Australia. We put the first porn and fish farm

1081
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: in Australia. That industry will bring in well over a

1082
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: thousand million ere now in that industry. But you know,

1083
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: I come from backgrounds in a where I had to

1084
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: build my own bloody fences up on site Francis. I

1085
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: had to find work, but get water, you know, from

1086
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: underground help. On Saint Francis. I walked a bit two

1087
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: hundred kilometers trying to get it a road in, you know,

1088
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: so we could get in and out of the bloody place.

1089
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: And but yet I did it all myself. But you know,

1090
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: these people brought up not sort of know how to

1091
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 2: do any of those things, and you know, direly and

1092
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: I get on extremely well, you know. And she's very

1093
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: conscious of the fact that they lost five thousand jobs

1094
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: when the underwear industry left Sydney and Brisbane. Five thousand

1095
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: jobs went to China, and she's very conscious of that,

1096
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: you know, and she wants those jobs back. Well, dialel

1097
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: say I want to underwear industry back, and I'll say

1098
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: I want damns. Some are people going to have an

1099
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: income And well we're saying the same thing. Not surprisingly.

1100
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 2: I'll just come from meeting in Dice office.

1101
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say then that we are not

1102
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: protecting jobs in this country by protecting industries.

1103
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's infinitely worse than that. I mean,

1104
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: you removed the protection for the garments industry, so all

1105
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: the garments industry is gone. You removed the protection on

1106
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: the motive egle industry. The motive egle industry is gone.

1107
01:06:51,400 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: You allowed the oil to be exported for nothing, and

1108
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: you allowed all the refineries to close in Australia, so

1109
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: now you have to import petrol.

1110
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: And now look where we are.

1111
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: Sixty two thousand million dollars a year. It is twice

1112
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: as big as any other import, three times as big

1113
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: as any other import except for motor vehicles. It's twice

1114
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: as big as motor vehicles. And also there's the little

1115
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: matter of my horse died and I'm going to have

1116
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: to walk to the super market so i can buy

1117
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 2: another horse. This is serious stuff. And I'm not Robinson

1118
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: Crusoe's about twenty million other Australians in the same boat.

1119
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: But you know what's the government doing about it? Well,

1120
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: if they're doing something, I'm not aware of it.

1121
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: Then you should be. When you're there, you're not seeing anything, Well,

1122
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, I.

1123
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: Would say that the minister would be one of the

1124
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: biggest gooses I have seen in politics fifty one years.

1125
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean I've seen a lot of goods.

1126
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: His bone well, Chris Bowen, yeah yeah, yeah, But.

1127
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: I haven't been question to him the last four days.

1128
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 2: But the day before that he told everyone, you know,

1129
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: there was a question after question on he told everyone

1130
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: there was no problem. I heard he quoted the figures.

1131
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: You know that, you know, there's no closor and well,

1132
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: I would expect nothing more or less from him. But

1133
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: as I say, elbow I don't think he's strong enough

1134
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: to override Burkey or or Penny Penny wo wo.

1135
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: What do you think? What is it that does does

1136
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: Burke have something like he somehow seems to be able

1137
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: to you know, of course of his own electorate, he

1138
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: seems to be able to influence the prime Minister or

1139
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: the party at least?

1140
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 2: Sure he don't ginery man, is he? And you know,

1141
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: quiet machinery man do a right in politics. It was

1142
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: just with no but you know prime minister's like Morrison.

1143
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: He was just a quiet machinery man, you know, and

1144
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: he became prime minister. Uh, there's nothing necessarily wrong with

1145
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: that when John Howard was you know, I could could

1146
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: be arguing, but I'm interested in how we turned this around, and.

1147
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: How do we turn around?

1148
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the only vehicle I've got to offer

1149
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: the Australian people, uh is a voice, and that don't

1150
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 2: underestimate the power of the voice. Uh. You know, the

1151
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: penis mighty other than the sword, and it's pretty good saying.

1152
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: But you know, outside of that, there's you know, five

1153
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 2: or six people sitting on independence who are genuinely representing

1154
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: the people in their electorates, and they just coalless colorless. Naturally,

1155
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: I may not be a party, but I mean I'm

1156
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: just coming from a meeting of the five of them,

1157
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: you know, so you know they work together. And maybe

1158
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: if that number becomes fifteen or twenty, then you'll see difference.

1159
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: Even Queensland, our party can get eight seats thanks to

1160
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: Paulling Handsome when we cut back from four to two.

1161
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: And if she tells herself as the answer in Queensland,

1162
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: we could have had the balance of power and she

1163
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: destroyed us. She's a pupent on a string for a

1164
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: very rich person. Now that would be the way that

1165
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: I would see it, and she's done great work on migration,

1166
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: but what does she contribute to Australia. Well, she stopped

1167
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: us from getting eight seats, which I think we could

1168
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: have got at the next election. I heard Robbie Catters

1169
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: speak and he said we'll get the Prance power. Whether

1170
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: it's next election was ten years to him and that's

1171
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: still a pretty good call. And she's got to think

1172
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 2: about this. And thank goodness Barnaby's there, but she's got

1173
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: to think about this. You know, we'll get three hundred thirst.

1174
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: We got to run in every seat in Queensland and

1175
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: we won't get candidates. Says well, I think we got

1176
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: a couple of hundred thirts in last election, but if

1177
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: we're running in all seats, we'll go over three hundred ths. Well,

1178
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: if we decided not to give her the preferences, she's gone.

1179
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think she was the front of the queue.

1180
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 2: But they in and out cleverness.

1181
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, do you think do you think Barney can

1182
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: sort of steal up that group? Do you think Barnaby

1183
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: is going to give it what it means?

1184
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping and praying to the good lords you

1185
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 2: know that said it can and they're pretty good egos

1186
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 2: by the book. You know, I would be curious to

1187
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 2: see how they sit in the same route together.

1188
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: Interesting. I'm going to interview her in a couple of

1189
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: weeks time. It's going to be interesting. Get I'm actually

1190
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: going to go and interview her and James, her chief

1191
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: of staff guy. But I'm looking for you.

1192
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, maybe he's gone all the shots there. I

1193
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, there's no way Barnaby will be bending

1194
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: to him. I wouldn't think.

1195
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how this

1196
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: all unfolded. I mean Australian politics is that are really

1197
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: a real big inflection point right now. Liberals are sort

1198
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: of waning one nation looks and making a lot of noise,

1199
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: and there's changes going on there. The independence like yourself.

1200
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: Thank god, we've got independence like yourself. And I have

1201
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: to ask you, Bob, there's no retirement from you coming soon?

1202
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 2: No, you know, I mean, I've got all my faculties.

1203
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: I'm writing my second book.

1204
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: You certainly demonstrate that today.

1205
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: I mean this sounds statistical battlem my way for about

1206
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: forty one people this morning want to photograph and it's lovely,

1207
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: but you sort of got to walk over here, or

1208
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: walk over there, or go walk backwards or you know,

1209
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: and just demanding physically and well, you know, I probably

1210
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: walked about two kilometers.

1211
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: Today from stuff tough stocker may you know they.

1212
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how do you peasant stock them? You know,

1213
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: small people from the best bush where you do it

1214
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: all yourself whether you like it or not. And uh,

1215
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: a bit funny on the mother's side of my family

1216
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: and my mother's sort. But I just brought my second

1217
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: book and I used to handle this. It's a good

1218
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: example and almost perished. And buddy Western dissertation goal because

1219
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: they knew nothing about it. And then they became big

1220
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,879
Speaker 2: people and Brisbane and I went from wester training to Brisbane,

1221
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: far awayst I could get from, you know, and uh

1222
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 2: did it right, you know, uh shoe repairs and boot micasin.

1223
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: But everyone's nurses have became big saddlers and then are

1224
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: still rac and stables and big shopping center and Paddington

1225
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: and very wealthy to great granddad to quote, my mother

1226
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: had an affair with a flu while lift and part time.

1227
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: But you know they said, you know they knew they

1228
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: were important. Well no else they're important, So let's run

1229
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: around the Masonic Lodge and live. Yeah, but I said,

1230
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 2: yeah my snor and Christian Porter was an that's both

1231
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: catta as long as serving and the other one should

1232
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: have been Prime minister, but chosen another pathway and we'll

1233
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: leave it at that shop.

1234
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: There's no there's no really, there's no retirement or early

1235
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: retirement plans.

1236
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: No, I have no justification to entire. You know, I'm

1237
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,520
Speaker 2: mentally agile, and I have enormous accumulated knowledge.

1238
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: That's for sure.

1239
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I've got no way I can justify

1240
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: just shouldering and my rifle and walking out of the trade.

1241
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: You also know where the creaky boards are too, you know,

1242
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: you've been around long enough to know where all the

1243
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: creaky boards are. You know every single step in the joint. Yeah,

1244
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: and every predecessor before that.

1245
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll give you one example of that. I

1246
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: have never been able to use a computer. And the

1247
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: reason for that was in the Ficerial Inquirer and Queensland

1248
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: we're trying to weed out there was some really bad

1249
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: corruption and we had to weed it out. And that's

1250
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: plenty awful. But they were putting up child pornography on

1251
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: the good coppers, the ones that have tried to reign

1252
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: in them the and you know, like I think there

1253
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,839
Speaker 2: were eight or nine of them suicide at the good couse,

1254
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: twenty of them became twenty I became alcoholics. All of

1255
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: them were kicked out of the police force. These were

1256
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: the good guys that had the courage to stand up

1257
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: and try and overcome the corruption. In the meantime, the

1258
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: leader of it all, he hasn't got a nice house,

1259
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: the most expensive address in Australia and a very courageous journalist,

1260
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: said senior sergeant, I'm still scared to use his name.

1261
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: Your las, Senior sergeant, you're living in the most expensive

1262
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: address in Australia, you were two top of the range

1263
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: for CDEs bends, your wife doesn't work and you've done

1264
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: all that on eighty thousand dollars a year as a

1265
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 2: senior sergeant. Could you explains to the.

1266
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: People of Australia thew do go well?

1267
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: I said, I'm getting away from you. You definitely are

1268
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: going to get caught and ricochet. He's just one of

1269
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 2: those base that you know, journalists with immense courage and

1270
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: Christian conviction for the sake of a bitter word. Yeah,

1271
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, the bigger picture is absolutely disastrous.

1272
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: So thank god we've got people still around like you

1273
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: have the history of the joint. But importantly, you know,

1274
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: I guess what I wanted to say to you, Bob,

1275
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 1: especially of this conversation is I think, and it doesn't

1276
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: get said enough. We should thank you for your like

1277
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: your continued conviction about your principles and your values. I

1278
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: mean like you've never you've never moved from those principles

1279
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: and values. And that's what we need in our politicians.

1280
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: You're not fungible, you're not a changeable. You're not saying, oh,

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to change this because it's suitable and it's

1282
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: more popular to go down this way. You've got your

1283
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: position and you stay your your road and I want

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: to say thank you for that.

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01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: And before we conclude, I just want to paint a

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01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: picture for you. Please, do we build the Bradfield Scheme?

1287
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: Dr Bradfield, but sitting now which your water supply here,

1288
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: the University of Queensland, the underground railway system which won

1289
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: the World Price for engineering. Let's just say you know

1290
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 2: a bit about engineering for the Bradfield scheme. Diverse the

1291
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: water from my electric where it rains all the bloody

1292
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: time under its rainfall, a little bit of that water

1293
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: and puts it out where it never rains my homeland,

1294
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,480
Speaker 2: Western Queensland. And that creates, with a bit of adjuncts,

1295
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: sixty thousand million dollars a year the tak money. That

1296
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 2: is a total expenditure of the Queensland government every year.

1297
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: It will create that every year. Clarence River is not

1298
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: far behind. It will double agriculture in the biggest agricultural

1299
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 2: state in Australia, the Claris River diversion. Now that's the

1300
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: water schemes. The Galilee Basin coal will double coal production

1301
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: in Queensland which is big coal producer the New South Wales.

1302
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: So there you go. Now, just reeled off three items,

1303
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: like a round one hundred and twenty billion dollars a year.

1304
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: What's the Queensland governs spend the money on the Olympic

1305
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: Games Games?

1306
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's sort of that says it all right

1307
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: there and then and it's all sitting sitting, and it

1308
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: all sits in the in the in the coast as

1309
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,799
Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere near the regiency.

1310
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the country party will has it's

1311
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: goed ourselves, the own operator party you know, but when

1312
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: you divert that water, you create seven thousand farms. Now

1313
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: for every farm you have a contractor electrician, plumber, whatever, right,

1314
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: and electrician. He retired at thirty nine. He brought acreage

1315
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: on the Budigan River which got some fortune and he

1316
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: goes for tripe Iver's seasipvery year. So we're going infer

1317
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: from this said, you don't want your kids to be lawyers,

1318
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: you want them to be electricians.

1319
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, and plumbers.

1320
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 2: So so you know, I mean there'll be seven million

1321
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: people moved out of the cities into country years South

1322
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: Wales and country Queensland. And the third one is the

1323
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: bridging scheme in Western Australia. Ernie Bridge bridges very close

1324
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: by the Morn but he had a Bradfeld scheme or

1325
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 2: class for his diversion scheme for the north of Western

1326
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: Australia and for that Northern Territory area as well bridging.

1327
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: So you had the bridging scheme to that, you know,

1328
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: and well that moves as I say, seven million people

1329
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: out of the cities and their owner operators said, you know,

1330
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 2: they've got nice houses and nice guards and you're like

1331
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: ten acres of land or whatever. Hu And so you've

1332
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 2: got the farmers, but you've also got all the people

1333
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: that you know will make a very good living off

1334
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: the farmers, and it'll be a much richer and happier Australia.

1335
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: And the Blake who wrote that beautiful song in and

1336
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: to kick off the two hundred years celebrations, we've done

1337
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: us proud to come this far one hundred, two hundred

1338
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: years to where we are. And every time I said

1339
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: that one of the people running for us was first

1340
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: a strange was a real character. It's a super beautiful

1341
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: and real character. Said you know, you know I'd sing

1342
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: the song in a pub. You know. She bashed the

1343
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: hell out of me. Start screwing a little skinny thing,

1344
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: she said, bullshit, fifty thousand.

1345
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: Years trumped trumped.

1346
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, well, yeah, anyway, but I'm definitely shutting up on

1347
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: this note. The inner the story in for the forty

1348
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:07,879
Speaker 2: ninth Battalion with Warren Borne either Warren and in Vietnam

1349
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: and the war in the Rack, the First War in

1350
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: the Rock and anyway, I was the inner, the storian

1351
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 2: for the forty ninth Battalion, and uh, I went absolutely Colonel,

1352
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: I said, look, we covered ourselves in glory in the

1353
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: first allard Second World War. Of course, so good. This

1354
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: is only seven y years after the ward ended, you know.

1355
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: And he said, what do you want to do? What

1356
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm going it got in to the rsel and ask

1357
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: her in and get the true story. Well we might

1358
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 2: have been a fullback battalion. But then again we mightn't

1359
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: have been. He said, you are cut of it down

1360
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 2: they meshing, then walla, not anyway you did in the eye.

1361
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: Zillion has a bet one hundred people at in anything

1362
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: bit the forty ninth in the war, and like yell

1363
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: said yeah, Mike, come down in. He said forty ninth

1364
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, yeah, I'm the inn of the story.

1365
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: And for the forty ninth, I'm I'm certain. Come it's

1366
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: forty ninths. He said, fortyninths. He said, Mike, they were

1367
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 2: the worst hit of war. When they were relieved San

1368
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Fernando at the bottom of the Kakoda track, he said,

1369
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: they're only twenty eight of them able to walk out

1370
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: and assisted. I said, twenty eight. At Fort Moresby, seven

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01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three men left Fort Moresby twenty eight.

1372
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: He said, twenty eight and their average odge was eighteen,

1373
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: more than half from seven, eight or six. That's my country,

1374
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: Bob Ketter, what the great read finished, Thanks very much

1375
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: riding appreciate it.