Speaker 1: Wait wait, Welcome to the Waked plays.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Good evening. We're so glad you're here.
Speaker 3: I'm Li's story here with Kayla Bond and Joe Hildebrand.
Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Stoked Scott's thank Premier Dan Andrews former
Speaker 3: Premier Dan Andrews for gifting them the Commonwealth games on
Speaker 3: the Victorian taxpayers dollar and coming up in the papers,
Speaker 3: restaurant owner yal asback rather al Yazbaks forced out of
Speaker 3: his own company after displaying a stop Nazi Israel sign.
Speaker 2: Hasn't gone very well for him, has it?
Speaker 3: Also in the papers, New South Wales Reconstruction Authority decides
Speaker 3: that an earthquake isn't classified as a natural disaster, So
Speaker 3: everyone who wanted to make an insurance claim is very sad,
Speaker 3: but the insurance companies are loving it. But first tonight
Speaker 3: today the New South Wales Finance Minister, her name is
Speaker 3: Courtney whosaus announced that millions of New South Walians it's
Speaker 3: going to be a term because I'm going to keep using.
Speaker 2: It until it is refer on to us as Welshman.
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: We're Walians, You're a welsh Woman, has announced that thousands
Speaker 3: millions in fact of New South Walians have been ripped
Speaker 3: off by merchant fees charged by two government agencies, both
Speaker 3: New South Wales Revenue and Services New South Wales to
Speaker 3: the tune of one hundred and forty four million dollars
Speaker 3: since two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 2: They're not allowed to charge merchant.
Speaker 3: Fees and they were told this by the Crown Solicitor's
Speaker 3: Office three times. Courtney, who saw says I find these
Speaker 3: revelations extremely concerning and I can't see how there is
Speaker 3: an excuse for a government agency to be repeatedly advised
Speaker 3: that an activity is unlawful and to continue doing it now.
Speaker 3: This is no small matter, given that these two agencies
Speaker 3: make up the vast bulk of financial transactions going from
Speaker 3: the taxpayer straight into the government's coffers. But Damien tuden Hope,
Speaker 3: who was the Finance Minister in the last two coalition
Speaker 3: governments here in New South Wales and is now the
Speaker 3: Shadow Treasurer, says he has.
Speaker 2: No idea what she's talking about.
Speaker 3: He says, I'm not denying that the advice from the
Speaker 3: Solicitor's Office, the Crown Solicitor's Office exists, but I don't
Speaker 3: ever recall seeing any such advice, and if I had
Speaker 3: received any advice, I would have raised it immediately. If
Speaker 3: there's an agency in possession of that Crown Solicitor's advice,
Speaker 3: I thcourage them to produce it. Well, certainly someone is
Speaker 3: in possession of said advice, because the government can name
Speaker 3: the dates, the three dates on which the Solicitor's Office
Speaker 3: sent this advice to the government. The matter has now
Speaker 3: been referred to the New South Wales.
Speaker 2: On Budsman and I cack.
Speaker 3: But what justice can there be in this situation, Caleb,
Speaker 3: When you've got millions of Ozzie's We're talking about over
Speaker 3: ninety two million credit card transactions. They've been slugged with
Speaker 3: a fee that's illegal. There's no way you can make
Speaker 3: it up to them anyway.
Speaker 4: Yes, there is, give us our money back. Give it's
Speaker 4: the refund. It's as simple as that. Now we know
Speaker 4: that governments don't like giving up money, whether it be
Speaker 4: tax or anything else. So look, I'll hold on for
Speaker 4: that one to come through. I would also tell Damian
Speaker 4: Tude Hope to be very careful when things are going
Speaker 4: before I cack to use the words I don't recall
Speaker 4: because I think that cost one of your colleagues his
Speaker 4: position as premier. Once upon a time, it reminded me
Speaker 4: exactly recall it happened.
Speaker 1: But this is an absolute disgrace.
Speaker 4: Right, the advice exists, and the current government knows that
Speaker 4: they've seen the advice now clearly it had not come
Speaker 4: across their desks before this, and they have been so
Speaker 4: outraged by themselves. I mean he this is a government
Speaker 4: actually saying, actually, we are charging your legal fees here.
Speaker 4: We better put a stop. They've sent it off to
Speaker 4: the Eyekake and it needs to be dealt with. The
Speaker 4: government should be hauled over. The calls for this because they.
Speaker 1: Get enough money out of us as.
Speaker 4: It is, whether it's your car, red Joe and one
Speaker 4: hundred other fees that you've got to pay for certain things,
Speaker 4: and they go up and up and up every year.
Speaker 4: The government charges you an illegal fee. Well, imagine if
Speaker 4: anyone else did something illegal, the moral law would be
Speaker 4: used against them. And here we have a case of
Speaker 4: the people who create the law. And you know, look
Speaker 4: after the application of the law, breaking the law, what
Speaker 4: what sort of repercussion is there going to be?
Speaker 2: They were advised.
Speaker 5: We've accidentally overcharged you will just rest Oh really, can
Speaker 5: I accidentally take out more money than I have?
Speaker 6: If that's what we're going to down.
Speaker 5: This is absolutely spectacular work by of course lives your
Speaker 5: friends in mine, the Men's labor government in New South
Speaker 5: I know a labor a good solid mainstream labor. Right
Speaker 5: government looks like bread and butter issues finding out where punters,
Speaker 5: every day punters have been ripped off. He's doing it
Speaker 5: with things like tolls and other transport charges. And they're
Speaker 5: doing it with this. Courtney Husso is a fantastic woman.
Speaker 5: She's been a crusading finance minister. She's been great on
Speaker 5: things like housing as well.
Speaker 2: This is certainly impressive.
Speaker 5: What a fine and it's great, that's right. Who else
Speaker 5: would go through? Like just imagine any other government would
Speaker 5: go through and do this. Can you imagine just into
Speaker 5: Alan going through, Say, I wonder where the previous government
Speaker 5: might have accidentally overcharged Paul.
Speaker 6: She needs every Victorians, that's.
Speaker 2: Right, and mentioning this government.
Speaker 3: The Men's government has canceled nearly all most of these
Speaker 3: effective immediate, that's right, that's right. So that's how quickly
Speaker 3: they can do.
Speaker 1: When they're a man of action.
Speaker 6: A man of action.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that David Chube Hope is lovely man and everything.
Speaker 5: Of course, I like everybody, as you know, to say,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't recall seeing such advice. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying such advice doesn't exist, but I just don't recall
Speaker 5: seeing it. That is, in fact the ultimate sort of
Speaker 5: eye cack response, because you're not actually denying anything, and
Speaker 5: you're not even you're not even denying seeing it. You're
Speaker 5: just denying recalling seeing I think, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 5: Boff's problem, all both actually had to say. Barry Farrell,
Speaker 5: the forman you said that was premier. All he had
Speaker 5: to do was say that he did not recall getting
Speaker 5: a bottle of wine. But I think he was so confident.
Speaker 6: That didn't get a bottle wise and oh no, no,
Speaker 6: that never happened. Then it did.
Speaker 5: He goes, oh, well, fair cop, I'm off to run
Speaker 5: the cricket whatever help.
Speaker 2: It worked out.
Speaker 6: Well, he's having a great time. It's like I should,
Speaker 6: I should screw up more often.
Speaker 1: Politicians never.
Speaker 4: I mean, their memory is about as selective as my
Speaker 4: father's hearing. I just remember sitting at the dinner table
Speaker 4: as a kid, and you'd say something and then just
Speaker 4: sit there eat and he had no idea that you'd
Speaker 4: said it.
Speaker 1: Either that or he just ignored that you'd said it.
Speaker 1: Politicians do it all the.
Speaker 4: Time, but it raises the question if it's illegal in
Speaker 4: New South Wales and it's been going on in New
Speaker 4: South Wales for so long, what about all the other states,
Speaker 4: Because this is exactly the same situation in Victoria, South Australia, Queensland,
Speaker 4: Western Australia. Anytime you use your credit card to pay
Speaker 4: for your car, regil whatever, you get slugged some sort
Speaker 4: of surcharge for it.
Speaker 1: Let's start looking into that.
Speaker 4: I hope every other state government in the country has
Speaker 4: the courage to look into those fee is, because.
Speaker 1: My god, they should not be charged.
Speaker 4: And of course you'll remember the Albanezi government last week
Speaker 4: sort of came up with their first election promise and
Speaker 4: said that they would in a year's time, assuming they're
Speaker 4: re elected, ban credit card surcharges on a federal level
Speaker 4: when it comes to going to the shops. Let's hope
Speaker 4: the states do exactly the same thing. Speaking of the States,
Speaker 4: the United States, the election inches closer and every day
Speaker 4: it just seems to get worse for Kamala Harris, She's
Speaker 4: going backwards in the polls, and Trump's going forwards.
Speaker 1: That master choke of course of his.
Speaker 4: Over the weekend going to Macas and guess what we
Speaker 4: have another example of Harris plagiarizing. We brought you the
Speaker 4: story a week or two ago about large tranches of
Speaker 4: a book she wrote back in two thousand and seven
Speaker 4: about Crime having been copied from Wikipedia and other academic pieces.
Speaker 1: Well, an outlet in the.
Speaker 4: US has looked further into her publications and lo and
Speaker 4: behold found more. They report that, in the most egregious
Speaker 4: allegation so farm As, Harris, who was then San Francisco
Speaker 4: District Attorney, is accused of lifting almost twelve hundred words
Speaker 4: from the two thousand and seven congressional testimony of Republican
Speaker 4: Paul low Logley, sorry, the District Attorney of Winnebago in Illinois.
Speaker 4: It represented eighty percent of her fifteen hundred words submitted
Speaker 4: testimony to the House Judiciary Committee in support of the
Speaker 4: John R. Justice Act, a student loan repayment scheme for prosecutors,
Speaker 4: and of course, at the time she was a prosecutor.
Speaker 4: She then went on to be the Attorney General of California.
Speaker 4: And guess what they found another example where she took
Speaker 4: some text from the website for the National Human Trafficking Hotline. Now,
Speaker 4: this piece of text on the Human Trafficking Hotline's website
Speaker 4: was an example of the sort of phone calls they receive.
Speaker 4: Not an actual phone call they received, just an example
Speaker 4: of the sort of stuff they hear on the hotline.
Speaker 1: It's not real.
Speaker 4: It's a made up one, because of course you can't
Speaker 4: give out actual phone calls you receive privacy and whatever else.
Speaker 4: But just giving people an idea of what they hear
Speaker 4: every day. Well, she took that, Harris took that, quoted
Speaker 4: it verbatim.
Speaker 1: It's not real. Quotes did the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing and it wasn't even real. And of course you
Speaker 4: know it's not only these changes of texts of Wikipedia
Speaker 4: and whatever in books and submissions to congressional hearings. That
Speaker 4: she's stealing all her policies from Trump. As we past,
Speaker 4: she is a professional plage.
Speaker 1: Arise, how can you take her seriously at this?
Speaker 6: Well, on the.
Speaker 5: Helpline that you just mentioned, Apparently authorities concerns were raised
Speaker 5: when the text that she read out as that was
Speaker 5: real was help help I've been invited to a party
Speaker 5: by P Diddy.
Speaker 6: And that was something. Hey, that's doesn't sound like a
Speaker 6: p okay.
Speaker 5: So I've never understood plagiarism in the first place. It
Speaker 5: is the absolutely it is the worst thing you can
Speaker 5: do a journal like. It is just so lazy and
Speaker 5: it is pretty much unforgivable. I'm not sure if many,
Speaker 5: if any, people have really come back from it. It's
Speaker 5: I don't know. As a right I just cannot fathom.
Speaker 5: As a writer, it would be like, can you imagine
Speaker 5: a painter like doing a knockoff of the Mona Lisa
Speaker 5: and saying, look, I did this, Like, how could you
Speaker 5: live with that? If you actually care about what you're doing,
Speaker 5: and you actually have any degree of integrity or love
Speaker 5: for what you're doing, and if you're a politician or
Speaker 5: you're a crusading DA or a crusading attorney general, that
Speaker 5: should be that has to be the core passion of
Speaker 5: your life. And if you are just cutting and pasting
Speaker 5: someone else's passion into yours, it actually proves that you
Speaker 5: stand for nothing, you don't believe in anything, and you
Speaker 5: don't know what.
Speaker 3: You're talking about.
Speaker 5: Thinking about it, I think it's even more visceral than that.
Speaker 5: It's just simply that you just don't really care. Anyone
Speaker 5: who really cared about the law would never do that. Secondly,
Speaker 5: even if you are going to plagarise, at least plag
Speaker 5: darise something good. Wiki beania Republican job it is to
Speaker 5: try to catch you out for doing things like plagiarize.
Speaker 5: How could you be so student not to think that
Speaker 5: eventually you will be caught? I want to say, and
Speaker 5: icing on the cake for this, I want to say,
Speaker 5: this is twelve hundred out of fifteen hundred words. I
Speaker 5: want to see media watch do that thing where they
Speaker 5: highlight the two texts read out more twelve hundred words.
Speaker 3: Has genuinely done that. He's known as the plagiarism Finder,
Speaker 3: and he took it upon himself to overturn every single.
Speaker 2: Word that this woman to prove.
Speaker 3: She doesn't have an independent thought and if it did,
Speaker 3: if she did, it would die of loneliness. But hey, Otherwise,
Speaker 3: the Democrat campaign is going about as well as you
Speaker 3: can expect.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: I'm noticed my palms are sweating these week, hands a heaven.
Speaker 1: Swell running Man's for Dunner. I'm nervous, but I'm a
Speaker 1: surface of the calm and let it to drop. Bob,
Speaker 1: but I keep begin.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is Barack Obama, former President of the United States,
Speaker 3: just letting rip a Eminem song who is a.
Speaker 2: Famous white rapper who was on stage.
Speaker 3: Because the Dems love their celebrity endorsements. He was on
Speaker 3: stage to announce the arrival of Barack Obama, who then
Speaker 3: came on stage to do an Eminem rap.
Speaker 5: I mean this is this is you know, I did
Speaker 5: it because the opportunity comes once in a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Yo, yoe.
Speaker 2: Do you know the rest of the site do the
Speaker 2: full way.
Speaker 1: He's a world's master.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just did another one called Rap God or
Speaker 5: or Rapzillah. I think it's something and and it's I reckon.
Speaker 5: It's the fastest rapping ever done for his latest double Wow,
Speaker 5: kids love it.
Speaker 6: Barack Obama is cool. Barack Obama actually is.
Speaker 2: Like you see, I think knocked off some cool points.
Speaker 6: Little black guys.
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, well he wasn't even dancing.
Speaker 4: You can jump, but you do ever point out I'm
Speaker 4: not sure that white people should ever wrap to me perfectly,
Speaker 4: You've got me racist for saying it, But but I
Speaker 4: don't think they should do it, But is that really
Speaker 4: what they think at this point of the campaign.
Speaker 5: They legitimately he is the best performing they have. Barack
Speaker 5: Obama is the best asset, that's the best. Horror time,
Speaker 5: when Kamala Harris goes up and tries to do stuff
Speaker 5: that's fun, it's offbeat.
Speaker 6: You know she did, she did her own little musical
Speaker 6: number as.
Speaker 5: Well, it just looks horrible because it just looks so fake,
Speaker 5: whereas Obama actually looks like he's having a good time
Speaker 5: and he's.
Speaker 2: Got also trying to own it also because.
Speaker 5: You know, he's actually someone of real intelligence and real substance.
Speaker 5: When he cuts loose a bit, it's actually funny, whereas
Speaker 5: when Karmala does it, it's like she's just a kind
Speaker 5: of balloon, just sort of that someone's let the air out,
Speaker 5: floatering around the room.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of bad optics, here's Kamala speaking out of
Speaker 3: re sint rally drowned out to the tune off.
Speaker 2: We want Donald Trump if he is elected.
Speaker 7: AWO, it's all good.
Speaker 2: I'm here because we believe in democracy. Everyone's voice matters.
Speaker 2: But I am speaking now, I am speaking now.
Speaker 7: You know what, if you want Donald Trump to win,
Speaker 7: then say that otherwise I'm speaking.
Speaker 3: Well, you said, if you want Donald Trump to win,
Speaker 3: say that. I think that's exactly what they're saying. See
Speaker 3: how she snaps there, going from it's okay, I'm all
Speaker 3: about democracy to shut up, you flogs?
Speaker 2: What are you doing at my rally? Very quick change
Speaker 2: of tone there.
Speaker 3: But she has got plenty to smile about, with The
Speaker 3: New York Times breaking the news today that Bill Gates
Speaker 3: has gifted her fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Now, this is a strange move from Gates.
Speaker 3: Given he's avoided giving massive political donations throughout his prolific career.
Speaker 3: As you know, is one of the richest men in
Speaker 3: the world. He's quoted back in twenty nineteen is saying,
Speaker 3: I choose not to participate in large political donations.
Speaker 2: There are times it might feel tempting to.
Speaker 3: Do so, and there are other people who choose to
Speaker 3: do so, but I just don't want to grab that
Speaker 3: gigantic microphone.
Speaker 2: Well, what's changed, Bill Gates? What's changed? We all asked. Now,
Speaker 2: it's only a hypothesis, but I believe Elon Musk hit
Speaker 2: the nail on the head when he said this.
Speaker 7: Why while it's getting so much support, is that if
Speaker 7: Trump wins, that Fstein client list is going to become public. Yes,
Speaker 7: and some of those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of
Speaker 7: that outcome.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Do you think read Hoffman's uncomfortable?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Gates and Gates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all quivering in their boots because the Trump
Speaker 3: campaign has indeed alluded to the fact that they will
Speaker 3: release the client Epstein list. Just today on THEO Vonn's podcast,
Speaker 3: VP pick for the Trump campaign, Vance literally said, Oh,
Speaker 3: We've got to get that Epstein client list released. And
Speaker 3: we don't know who's on it, but we know it's
Speaker 3: a lot of red and powerful people. And we do
Speaker 3: know that this is the information that the FBI the
Speaker 3: CIA have and have refused to release. Why would you
Speaker 3: do that when they're a list of obviously the Vilens,
Speaker 3: criminals and all.
Speaker 2: So some of the most powerful people in the world.
Speaker 5: Well, we do know that a lot of the names
Speaker 5: on that list will appear in Kamala Harris's play Darive Speech,
Speaker 5: Human Traffic Help One.
Speaker 4: I think that's that'll be the defense when the list
Speaker 4: comes out.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how conspiratorial that is, but it is
Speaker 5: interesting that you know the Bill and Melida Gates Foundation
Speaker 5: obviously are hugely philanthropic enterprises. They donate to anything with
Speaker 5: a heartbeat. I think they've donated something in the order
Speaker 5: of and I might be making this up. I think
Speaker 5: ten billion dollars to fighting malaria.
Speaker 2: As you shut, If you got that much money.
Speaker 5: That's great, But it's a fair if you like again,
Speaker 5: if you give money to absolutely everything that moves. But
Speaker 5: on a matter of principle, have refused your entire life
Speaker 5: to give any money to any political candidate, and then
Speaker 5: suddenly you're dumping a cool fifty mili on Karmala with
Speaker 5: a week to go before polling day.
Speaker 1: Of course, And you see.
Speaker 4: And the thing as well for people like Gates and
Speaker 4: a lot of other people in the left wing establishment
Speaker 4: in the US, Trump being elected for a second term,
Speaker 4: which of course would be his last term as president.
Speaker 1: So he's got nothing to lose after this.
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 1: If he gets this shot, this is his last shot
Speaker 1: to do what he wants to do right.
Speaker 4: And so many people in the left wing establishment in
Speaker 4: the US would be so scared of Donald Trump having
Speaker 4: that opportunity because he might just cut them off. He
Speaker 4: might just do things that don't advantage them. And when
Speaker 4: you're someone who's been able to make a shed load
Speaker 4: of money out of a place like the United States,
Speaker 4: and you know you're basically allowed to say and do
Speaker 4: whatever the hell you want. You give money here, money there.
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks you're their friend. Donald Trump comes along and says, well,
Speaker 4: actually I'm not your friend. That is a huge threat
Speaker 4: to who you are and how you're allowed to operate,
Speaker 4: right Like, they would be.
Speaker 1: Scared of that, extremely scared.
Speaker 5: Also also the fact that, you know, much like our
Speaker 5: US ambassadors sort of recently deleted tweets, but that you
Speaker 5: had an establishment that not only refused to acknowledge Trump's
Speaker 5: legitimacy the first time he was president and tried to
Speaker 5: overturn his decison to the Supreme Court, which I have
Speaker 5: a right to do. We'll say, you know, hashtag not
Speaker 5: my President. I mean, obviously I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 5: the hashtag not my mamla. But since then, they were
Speaker 5: so smug After twenty twenty and again, I was someone
Speaker 5: who wanted Joe Biden to win reluctantly, but I did
Speaker 5: want him to win.
Speaker 2: Do you regret that now? No, the country's burning stand.
Speaker 5: I regret the fact that the Democrats so profound and
Speaker 5: the American elite left establishment as well, failed to learn
Speaker 5: any lessons from how Donald Trump got elected in the
Speaker 5: first place, and instead of being incredibly careful to make
Speaker 5: sure that wasn't repeated, for example, by nurturing actual, good,
Speaker 5: strong mainstream talent in the party that had strong connections
Speaker 5: to Middle America instead of these wanky East in West
Speaker 5: Coast upper middle class elites which Color is the pinup
Speaker 5: girl for.
Speaker 6: They completely failed to do that. They failed.
Speaker 5: They had no other candidate ready to go, no one
Speaker 5: who would tap Joe Biden on the shoulder in time
Speaker 5: for another candidate to go through a primary process and.
Speaker 6: Actually get blooded.
Speaker 5: So they were ready to take on Trump when the
Speaker 5: first Tuesday November came around.
Speaker 3: The gyms could have put up someone else, though there
Speaker 3: was Gavin News.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They absolutely and they have absolutely comprehensively screwed the perch,
Speaker 5: and the whole time they have been doing it, they
Speaker 5: have been doing it by accusing him of being a
Speaker 5: fascist and a threat to democracy, but done it by
Speaker 5: trying to put him in jail.
Speaker 6: And now this guy is going to win. What do
Speaker 6: you reckon the payback's going.
Speaker 3: To be exacts vowed to and he's always vowed to
Speaker 3: expose Deep State and.
Speaker 6: Guy turns the other chiefs.
Speaker 2: And in terms of.
Speaker 3: Exposing the Epstein client list, I think Julian Signe hit
Speaker 3: the nail on their head when he explained to everyone
Speaker 3: the reason why they won't reveal this list is because
Speaker 3: they've been building a dossy air on the people on
Speaker 3: the list with which to blackmail them.
Speaker 2: They've been building this for decades.
Speaker 3: The same could be said of whatever we're about to
Speaker 3: find out about P Diddy and the infamous celebrities and
Speaker 3: all the power players who attended his.
Speaker 6: Part as I like to say p Diddy or didn't
Speaker 6: or didn't he Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the other thing as well, I think it's worth
Speaker 4: noting is when you go back to the twenty sixteen campaign,
Speaker 4: the Democrats spent a lot more money on advertising than
Speaker 4: Donald Trump did, and he still got elected. I think
Speaker 4: they outstripped him by about three times in terms of
Speaker 4: advertising spind but he got a lot more coverage than
Speaker 4: the Democrats in the news because he was Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: So you know what, keep giving your money to Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris because something tells me it's not turning the dial
Speaker 4: all that much. Interesting report in the Guardian today about
Speaker 4: Woolworths and the practices in their warehouses where they are
Speaker 4: forcing apparently the workers to be as efficient as humanly
Speaker 4: possible and they can't hack it now. Apparently what is
Speaker 4: happening is they have a system where you're going to
Speaker 4: work every day in the warehouses and these are the
Speaker 4: people who are moving the products, you know, onto the
Speaker 4: trucks and around the warehouse, this sort of thing so
Speaker 4: they can get to the supermarket so you can buy them.
Speaker 4: And they've got a system now where they go into
Speaker 4: work and there's a big screen and it shows you
Speaker 4: what your level of efficiency is. Now they want you
Speaker 4: to get to one hundred percent efficiency. Exactly how you
Speaker 4: get to one hundred percent, I don't know. I guess
Speaker 4: it's their measurement. However, it might come to be that
Speaker 4: you're using your time as efficiently as possible. And so
Speaker 4: workers are now saying that they're being essentially bullied out
Speaker 4: of work if their efficiency level isn't as high as
Speaker 4: it's meant to be. They've been questioned by bosses if
Speaker 4: they go on long toilet breaks, etc. One worker who
Speaker 4: spoke to the Guardian, went by the pseudonym of Tim.
Speaker 4: He says, you might get someone that's twenty years old
Speaker 4: and goes to the gym every day, and someone like me.
Speaker 4: I'm getting the average between him and me, Tim said,
Speaker 4: Obviously I can't keep up with him. Now, This fella
Speaker 4: Tim said that he got his efficiency to eighty percent,
Speaker 4: and then he got it to ninety percent, and then
Speaker 4: eventually he got it to one hundred percent. But then
Speaker 4: he did himself a mischief for an injury, and then
Speaker 4: he couldn't go back to work the next day, of course,
Speaker 4: because he was so efficient that he'd done himself an injury. Apparently,
Speaker 4: another worker said that they would be going down the
Speaker 4: same path as Amazon. I think Amazon actually, in fact
Speaker 4: now uses robots in a lot of these circumstances that
Speaker 4: they're moving the people out all together. And I suppose
Speaker 4: it's a question of as a business, of course, you
Speaker 4: expect your workers to be as efficient as possible, because
Speaker 4: that is what you are paying them for, particularly when
Speaker 4: we're talking about the movement of products, right, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, you can talk about us in the business
Speaker 4: of journalism or broadcasting and whatever, it's not so much
Speaker 4: about efficiency. It's about the product you put out at
Speaker 4: the end, right of course, which we excel in.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So they're increasingly in journalism. They do judge you on
Speaker 4: how many stories you write today, et cetera. But you
Speaker 4: can understand why they would be concerned about efficiency. But
Speaker 4: when you start putting in these systems where they're coming
Speaker 4: up with ratings and then you get in trouble if
Speaker 4: you have to go to the toilet and do a.
Speaker 1: Pooh and all like, isn't getting a bit ridiculous? So
Speaker 1: they turning the people into robot.
Speaker 6: I think it is more than ridiculous.
Speaker 5: And you know, at least Amazon has the honesty to say,
Speaker 5: you know what, we just want robots, we don't want people.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if Woollies you know where the brand.
Speaker 5: Happy Shiny Patriots Food People Australia, a proud Australian company.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if they're.
Speaker 2: Going to they're not.
Speaker 3: Their main stakeholders are black Rock and Vanguards.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 5: But point being, they have that brand, they have that
Speaker 5: reputation that they want to it's come you know, sailed
Speaker 5: pretty close to the window a couple of times. I
Speaker 5: don't think this is the sort of reputation they want.
Speaker 6: I think this is incredibly sort of despicable.
Speaker 5: If you want workers to be machines, then at least
Speaker 5: have the decency to just use the machines. If it
Speaker 5: is going to be a human component, you have to
Speaker 5: give people some degree of human dignity and the idea
Speaker 5: that someone would just come to work and just for
Speaker 5: you know, eight hours to the second, would just be
Speaker 5: doing the most efficient movements they can possibly. I mean,
Speaker 5: are they allowed to stop and chat to their coworkers?
Speaker 5: Are they allowed to share a joke? You know, are
Speaker 5: they allowed if they've got you know, a bit of
Speaker 5: Deli belly from the Indian of the night before? Are
Speaker 5: they allowed to spend too much time in the toilet
Speaker 5: qubicle without their supervisor out in the front of the
Speaker 5: clipboard going you're done yet?
Speaker 6: I mean, that's really nasty, ugly big brother behavior.
Speaker 5: And I think and it's true that you know, journals,
Speaker 5: you know a lot of our jobs will be replaced
Speaker 5: by AI. A lot of basic sort of reporting will
Speaker 5: and yes, already in the online world, you know, there
Speaker 5: are charts, and you know, people get judged by their clicks,
Speaker 5: and very few journalists I know who don't find that
Speaker 5: soul destroying. They we accept that it's a necessary part
Speaker 5: of life and that we're all fighting for our kind
Speaker 5: of survival. But again, I think even even that level
Speaker 5: of measurement, the best editors do not use that as
Speaker 5: their soul metric or even their top metric for measuring
Speaker 5: who's a good report journalist. Thank Christ for that, because
Speaker 5: otherwise I probably wouldn't be there. But they have a
Speaker 5: sense of the worth of their people and how the
Speaker 5: newsroom or the organization works.
Speaker 2: Together, totally different to the Wooli's guards.
Speaker 3: Obviously what Tim describes in this article, Obviously that is
Speaker 3: a pseudonism.
Speaker 2: Pseudonism.
Speaker 3: As Caleb said, they don't want to use their real
Speaker 3: names because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Speaker 2: But about a dozen of them spoke to.
Speaker 3: The Guardian and he described the minute he gets to work,
Speaker 3: he puts on a headset and through that headset he
Speaker 3: has told what to do throughout the warehouse, through our
Speaker 3: his shift, and then he's timed. He's judged if his
Speaker 3: efficiency isn't up to scratch, and as he recounted, he
Speaker 3: got to eighty percent efficiency ninety one hundred and then
Speaker 3: hurt himself because he's in his sixties and he's like, well,
Speaker 3: I can't keep up with the twenty year old, so
Speaker 3: certainly you think a union would help him out.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what you guys are?
Speaker 5: That would be the famous shop distributive adelite common.
Speaker 2: Shop is where this is a clear case for the shop.
Speaker 4: Can I say if they would have been the ones
Speaker 4: who drew a tech many twenty years ago? My grandfather
Speaker 4: owned butcher shops and he had the theory and the
Speaker 4: ethos that if he treated his work as well and
Speaker 4: paid them above award rate, they would give the best
Speaker 4: effort they possibly because if you treat the workers well,
Speaker 4: they will repay you in productivity. What Woolworth's is doing
Speaker 4: is the exact opposite this, and we're going to make
Speaker 4: your life as miserable as possible and then expect you
Speaker 4: to be the most productive possible.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: There was still jobs.
Speaker 3: They've got nowhere else to go, so they're absolutely stuck
Speaker 3: there anyway, because it's not like, well, if I go
Speaker 3: somewhere else, they'll treat.
Speaker 2: Me better, not necessarily in a low skills job. To Queensland.
Speaker 3: Now we all know Premier Stephen Miles has tried his
Speaker 3: darndas to make abortion an election issue, despite the L
Speaker 3: and P repeatedly saying no changes to abortion legislation are
Speaker 3: on the cards.
Speaker 2: Everyone do not listen to this man.
Speaker 3: Despite Miles's baseless claims, He's continued to run on the
Speaker 3: issue of abortions. So why yesterday when he was asked
Speaker 3: by doctor Joanna Howe about his current abortion legislation, which
Speaker 3: he himself introduced back in twenty eighteen when he was
Speaker 3: Health Minister, legalizing abortion right up to birth?
Speaker 2: Why did he run away.
Speaker 6: The topic?
Speaker 8: One ask if I mista helpful and step away this
Speaker 8: interdece and you told the parle amount of time.
Speaker 1: That it wouldn't lead to be placing tenus.
Speaker 8: Is that something you still said by yeah, there is.
Speaker 8: Every interim data shows three hundred four babies in the
Speaker 8: last year. So having you before your bill three hundred
Speaker 8: poor babies killed under your bill. Doesn't want to answer
Speaker 8: the question, He says, there's no evidence.
Speaker 2: Just shocking, isn't it.
Speaker 8: That's so shocking to hide behind no evidence when Queen's
Speaker 8: Unhealth produces data every year that shows three hundred floor
Speaker 8: babies have been killed gestationally viable babies through late tem
Speaker 8: abortions because of Stephen marslaw.
Speaker 2: Mister Miles, why are you running away? You're so proud
Speaker 2: of this legislation.
Speaker 3: Why are you're running away when confronted with the fact
Speaker 3: that the amount of babies whose lives at that point
Speaker 3: are more than viable outside of the womb, the number
Speaker 3: of their lives which has been taken thanks to your bill.
Speaker 2: As doubled, I thought he was proud of this legislation.
Speaker 3: I thought this is what he has been defending needlessly
Speaker 3: the entire length of the campaign.
Speaker 4: Thus, Fars, you're not telling me that politicians lie, are
Speaker 4: you live?
Speaker 1: Surely not? I mean, of course, he just won't admit
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 4: And of course he doesn't really care about the truth
Speaker 4: at the moment because he has tried to make an
Speaker 4: election issue out of something that has not been an
Speaker 4: election issue. So when the actual truth is put in
Speaker 4: front of him, well he can't admit to that because
Speaker 4: his entire argument falls apart. It might actually suggest that
Speaker 4: there is a reason for the Coalition or the LNP
Speaker 4: as it is in Queensland, to change abortion law.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give them an inch. The whole
Speaker 1: thing is a sham.
Speaker 4: It is a legitimate question to ask why is late
Speaker 4: term abortion allowed in any other circumstance than where it
Speaker 4: causes danger to a mother's life right, And we've just
Speaker 4: had that discussion in my native South Australia, which was
Speaker 4: driven by doctor Joanna Howe as a South Australian, and
Speaker 4: that fell down there because they lost the vote by
Speaker 4: one vote. But for a politician on a matter of
Speaker 4: something that is about life or lack thereof in this case,
Speaker 4: when we're talking about the abortion of children, to deny
Speaker 4: fact that are freely available from his own department is
Speaker 4: a joke. Just say yes the numbers. The numbers have increased.
Speaker 4: This is why I believe why he's within his rights
Speaker 4: to explain it. Why doesn't he want to explain it
Speaker 4: because it looks bad, simple as that.
Speaker 5: I think there's a bit of political karma as well
Speaker 5: that given that Labor has tried to make this a
Speaker 5: millstone to put around David chris if Fool's neck and
Speaker 5: make it look like he is someone who is now
Speaker 5: going to make abortions illegal and no one's able to
Speaker 5: have one, and you know your daughters will all be
Speaker 5: dying in the backyard and then suddenly the debate has
Speaker 5: sort of swung around full circle and now he's been
Speaker 5: smashed with it.
Speaker 3: Doctor Joanna Howe is also under a lot of pressure
Speaker 3: for a post that she did recently following the failure
Speaker 3: of the South Australian bill called the Live Birth's Bill,
Speaker 3: which would have enabled women who have carried their child
Speaker 3: full term to rather than abort it, to simply give
Speaker 3: birth to it, allow it to live, and if they
Speaker 3: wish to, to adopt it out. Here's her Instagram post.
Speaker 3: She says these are the members she's naming and shaming
Speaker 3: them of the Baby Killers Club, a group of unimaginably
Speaker 3: unimaginably unhinged individuals who support injecting healthy babies with potassium
Speaker 3: chloride in the third trimester and delivering them stillborn, rather
Speaker 3: than skipping the injection and birthing them alive. All seven
Speaker 3: have come out against the Live Birth's Bill, which allows
Speaker 3: a woman to terminate her pregnancy through all nine months
Speaker 3: but deliver her baby alive. The baby can then be
Speaker 3: raised by the mother or placed in the adoption system.
Speaker 3: The current barbaric practices sees the baby's heart injected with
Speaker 3: excruciatingly painful poison. The mother then goes into labor and
Speaker 3: delivers a still born baby.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't see a problem with this post.
Speaker 3: These women fought for what they believe is a right
Speaker 3: to kill full if warmed babies whose lives are more
Speaker 3: than viable outside of the womb at this point, but
Speaker 3: they don't want to be called baby killers.
Speaker 2: Let's call it what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm someone who doesn't call euthenaser euthanasia. It's assisted suicide.
Speaker 3: Let's just call things what they are. Let's call a
Speaker 3: spade a spade. And yet people who claim to be
Speaker 3: so proud of something like this, Oh, I'm all for abortion,
Speaker 3: I'm all for the right to choose. Once they're actually
Speaker 3: labeled accordingly, they want to shirk away from it.
Speaker 2: And by what you say or you're convicted.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I find the idea of you know that this
Speaker 5: abortion's this light term. I'm not not anti abortion, but
Speaker 5: this light term is obviously quite sickening.
Speaker 2: But exactly, there's got to be a line somewhere.
Speaker 6: You would teacher.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I was blissfully unaware that it went on,
Speaker 5: but I do think, you know, putting stuff like that
Speaker 5: on social media is obviously inflammatory.
Speaker 6: I don't think it does much to actually advance the issue.
Speaker 3: I think it does because a lot of people who
Speaker 3: just listen to me read out that post would have
Speaker 3: been unaware that even that was the method used. But
Speaker 3: we as a society, we are responsible for the laws
Speaker 3: in our land. We all are okay, and our governments
Speaker 3: are elected to serve us. I think if a lot
Speaker 3: of people knew more about what was going on, much
Speaker 3: like Senative Babet recently putting up a motion regarding babies
Speaker 3: born alive after.
Speaker 5: An abortion and how they if you put a post
Speaker 5: online saying these people are baby killers, with their photos
Speaker 5: and names, you're going to get some blowback.
Speaker 3: Where's the lie? Where's the lie? We've got to go
Speaker 3: to a break now, but when we get
Speaker 2: Back, we'll give you tomorrow's news tonight see Zoon